Comments on: The Mass Media’s Mass Hysteria Over Google http://pjmedia.com/blog/why_is_the_mainstream_media_te/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:42:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: bee http://pjmedia.com/blog/why_is_the_mainstream_media_te/#comment-16719 bee Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:14:19 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-mass-medias-mass-hysteria-over-google/#comment-16719 I hope the hi-tech moguls wake-up and see that the old elite are not their friends. They are bitter enemies and the worst is to come if they do not act immediately and stop placating fools seeking to impose grandiose socialist agendas upon humanity. You cannot placate fanatics. The elite are terrified that they are quickly becoming irrelevant through the technologies being created by the hi-tech sector. The old money is quickly becoming old and small relative to the great wealth being created by the hi-tech. They are losing their positions of power and and are now attacking innovation as the enemy of the people (really their power over the people). What they really mean is they are no becoming just "old" money without a privileged voice. Journalists are seeing the institutions that empowered them decline as the internet creates true information access to the masses. Gone are the days that the news papers, radio and TV controled what we are allowed to hear. We are all now able to access the information we need without seeking out the "learned" journalists and their cabal of "experts' bought to tell the story in a "simple" way for all of us "dumb" Americans to understand. Yes they are scared. They should be. They no longer can feed at the trough. Google and the rest of the hi-tech sector need to wake up and see they must stand for true human liberty not just the quick buck. That means that Google, yahoo and MSN must respect human rights. Selling Chinese dissidents for a buck is simply short term whoring. Another role that Google, Yahoo, and MSN must resist is playing the PC police. This will also destroy ability to appeal to the public. I hope the hi-tech moguls wake-up and see that the old elite are not their friends. They are bitter enemies and the worst is to come if they do not act immediately and stop placating fools seeking to impose grandiose socialist agendas upon humanity. You cannot placate fanatics.

The elite are terrified that they are quickly becoming irrelevant through the technologies being created by the hi-tech sector. The old money is quickly becoming old and small relative to the great wealth being created by the hi-tech. They are losing their positions of power and and are now attacking innovation as the enemy of the people (really their power over the people). What they really mean is they are no becoming just “old” money without a privileged voice.

Journalists are seeing the institutions that empowered them decline as the internet creates true information access to the masses. Gone are the days that the news papers, radio and TV controled what we are allowed to hear. We are all now able to access the information we need without seeking out the “learned” journalists and their cabal of “experts’ bought to tell the story in a “simple” way for all of us “dumb” Americans to understand. Yes they are scared. They should be. They no longer can feed at the trough.

Google and the rest of the hi-tech sector need to wake up and see they must stand for true human liberty not just the quick buck. That means that Google, yahoo and MSN must respect human rights. Selling Chinese dissidents for a buck is simply short term whoring. Another role that Google, Yahoo, and MSN must resist is playing the PC police. This will also destroy ability to appeal to the public.

]]> By: Tim MacPherson http://pjmedia.com/blog/why_is_the_mainstream_media_te/#comment-16718 Tim MacPherson Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:58:38 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-mass-medias-mass-hysteria-over-google/#comment-16718 Good for Google. the hell with the mainstream media. They're up in a tizzy because search engines like google greatly reduce their monopoly on ideas. Pretty much any time FOX and/or Newscorp is against something, i'm for it. Good for Google. the hell with the mainstream media. They’re up in a tizzy because search engines like google greatly reduce their monopoly on ideas.

Pretty much any time FOX and/or Newscorp is against something, i’m for it.

]]> By: Steve Boriss http://pjmedia.com/blog/why_is_the_mainstream_media_te/#comment-16717 Steve Boriss Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:31:53 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-mass-medias-mass-hysteria-over-google/#comment-16717 John Proffitt, Actually, I do not accept traditional definitions of "government-controlled." Any entities that are controlled by political appointees and rely on taxpayer funding, and therefore must respond to pressure from politicians, in my view are government-controlled rather than fully market-driven. To a large extent, I would say that even the TV networks are government-controlled as their need to get their broadcast licenses renewed has clearly led them to watered-down coverage of government as compared to what Jefferson would have liked. Compare the political discussion of regulated broadcast vs. relatively unregulated cable and there is a clear difference. And obviously, radio was government-controlled during the era of the Fairness Doctrine. Its lapse led to much freer speech and the explosion of talk radio. John Proffitt, Actually, I do not accept traditional definitions of “government-controlled.” Any entities that are controlled by political appointees and rely on taxpayer funding, and therefore must respond to pressure from politicians, in my view are government-controlled rather than fully market-driven. To a large extent, I would say that even the TV networks are government-controlled as their need to get their broadcast licenses renewed has clearly led them to watered-down coverage of government as compared to what Jefferson would have liked. Compare the political discussion of regulated broadcast vs. relatively unregulated cable and there is a clear difference. And obviously, radio was government-controlled during the era of the Fairness Doctrine. Its lapse led to much freer speech and the explosion of talk radio.

]]> By: John Proffitt http://pjmedia.com/blog/why_is_the_mainstream_media_te/#comment-16716 John Proffitt Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:32:25 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-mass-medias-mass-hysteria-over-google/#comment-16716 While this may seem like a minor point in your article, I do think it bears correction. NPR, PBS and other "public media" outlets of that type are not "government-controlled" as you stated in your piece. While the CPB does indeed receive cash from federal appropriations, it's a measly sum (a little over $400 million per year) and there are no content or editorial controls that flow with that money. While this may seem like a minor point in your article, I do think it bears correction. NPR, PBS and other “public media” outlets of that type are not “government-controlled” as you stated in your piece.

While the CPB does indeed receive cash from federal appropriations, it’s a measly sum (a little over $400 million per year) and there are no content or editorial controls that flow with that money.

]]> By: John Moore http://pjmedia.com/blog/why_is_the_mainstream_media_te/#comment-16715 John Moore Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:35:35 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-mass-medias-mass-hysteria-over-google/#comment-16715 Steve Boriss: I don't quite what to think about net neutrality legislation. It has long been the ethic of the internet (inherited from its non-commercial roots) that a all connections should be equal (in terms of who you can connect to, etc). That is the normal meaning of net neutrality. I haven't looked at the details actual NN proposals, but what I have read creates more fairness for users and upcoming vendors. Basically, it limits provision of internet connectivity to just that, rather than allowing connectivity providers to alter the user's experience based on deals they make with content providers. There is no way to keep the internet from being regulated by government. It is too important - they will get their mitts on it one way or the other. Net neutrality (and Google's initiative for open access to 700MHz cellular connectivity) both seem to be good ideas (although the cellular connectivity world is already strongly regulated by the feds via the FCC). I guess, to me, it's okay to regulate net neutrality in monopoly situations where federalism is not damaged. It may be okay to regulate it as a matter of creating a good standard (which is a power the feds have long used, usually to the good). Steve Boriss:
I don’t quite what to think about net neutrality legislation. It has long been the ethic of the internet (inherited from its non-commercial roots) that a all connections should be equal (in terms of who you can connect to, etc). That is the normal meaning of net neutrality. I haven’t looked at the details actual NN proposals, but what I have read creates more fairness for users and upcoming vendors. Basically, it limits provision of internet connectivity to just that, rather than allowing connectivity providers to alter the user’s experience based on deals they make with content providers.

There is no way to keep the internet from being regulated by government. It is too important – they will get their mitts on it one way or the other. Net neutrality (and Google’s initiative for open access to 700MHz cellular connectivity) both seem to be good ideas (although the cellular connectivity world is already strongly regulated by the feds via the FCC).

I guess, to me, it’s okay to regulate net neutrality in monopoly situations where federalism is not damaged. It may be okay to regulate it as a matter of creating a good standard (which is a power the feds have long used, usually to the good).

]]> By: Naughten http://pjmedia.com/blog/why_is_the_mainstream_media_te/#comment-16714 Naughten Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:02:10 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-mass-medias-mass-hysteria-over-google/#comment-16714 HYSTERICAL MASS-MEDIA IS LOSING THE POWER STRUGGLE WITH GOOGLE - DEMOCRACTIC CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOM OF SPEECH TERRIFIES THEM HYSTERICAL MASS-MEDIA IS LOSING THE POWER STRUGGLE WITH GOOGLE – DEMOCRACTIC CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOM OF SPEECH TERRIFIES THEM

]]> By: Steve Boriss http://pjmedia.com/blog/why_is_the_mainstream_media_te/#comment-16713 Steve Boriss Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:21:11 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-mass-medias-mass-hysteria-over-google/#comment-16713 John Moore, My personal concern about Google is their support for Net Neutrality, a seemingly benign piece of legislation that would set a precedent for federal government regulation of the Internet. Similar regulation in broadcast led to decades of chilled free speech. The Internet will only fulfill its promise for unprecedented free speech if it remains in private hands. John Moore, My personal concern about Google is their support for Net Neutrality, a seemingly benign piece of legislation that would set a precedent for federal government regulation of the Internet. Similar regulation in broadcast led to decades of chilled free speech. The Internet will only fulfill its promise for unprecedented free speech if it remains in private hands.

]]> By: John Moore http://pjmedia.com/blog/why_is_the_mainstream_media_te/#comment-16712 John Moore Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:00:51 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-mass-medias-mass-hysteria-over-google/#comment-16712 While your analysis of the press is correct, watch out for Google. Its motives are not purely profit. The corporate motto is "Do no evil" which, given the far left views of their founders, means "support the left." And they do that. They have rejected ads attacking MoveOn.org. Their news aggregator site has an large collection of tiny left wing news sources that it seems to pull from. A search on a hot topic often brings up a "you never heard of it" lefty web site as the first link, with MSM and other more popular sites farther down, and conservative sites... well, I've never seen one there. Google IS dangerous. It has almost monopoly power in controlling the information people find on the internet, and vast amounts of money. The free market created Google, but at the moment, Google's world is far from free. Thus it is not just dangerous to the tired old news elite, but also to anyone seeking information. Furthermore, News Corp is hardly representative of the MSM. It is more profit motivated, as Rupert Murdoch does not adhere to the media model of Bill Moyers or the rest of the MSM. So if Google is dangerous to News Corp, it's not because it is threatening the elite MSM's control of the dialog. While your analysis of the press is correct, watch out for Google.

Its motives are not purely profit. The corporate motto is “Do no evil” which, given the far left views of their founders, means “support the left.”

And they do that. They have rejected ads attacking MoveOn.org. Their news aggregator site has an large collection of tiny left wing news sources that it seems to pull from. A search on a hot topic often brings up a “you never heard of it” lefty web site as the first link, with MSM and other more popular sites farther down, and conservative sites… well, I’ve never seen one there.

Google IS dangerous. It has almost monopoly power in controlling the information people find on the internet, and vast amounts of money. The free market created Google, but at the moment, Google’s world is far from free. Thus it is not just dangerous to the tired old news elite, but also to anyone seeking information.

Furthermore, News Corp is hardly representative of the MSM. It is more profit motivated, as Rupert Murdoch does not adhere to the media model of Bill Moyers or the rest of the MSM. So if Google is dangerous to News Corp, it’s not because it is threatening the elite MSM’s control of the dialog.

]]> By: ThirstyJon http://pjmedia.com/blog/why_is_the_mainstream_media_te/#comment-16711 ThirstyJon Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:03:10 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-mass-medias-mass-hysteria-over-google/#comment-16711 Excellent! I find it exciting that the major news sources are afraid that if I have a choice I might just not listen to them. Go Google! Excellent Post. ThirstyJon <a href="http://www.freedomthirst.com" rel="nofollow">freedomthirst.com</a> Excellent!

I find it exciting that the major news sources are afraid that if I have a choice I might just not listen to them.

Go Google!

Excellent Post.

ThirstyJon
freedomthirst.com

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