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		<title>By: Tea</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-we-love-big-love/#comment-209679</link>
		<dc:creator>Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOT MORMON!

The people depicted here, although they share a history with modern day &quot;Mormons,&quot; are NOT MORMONS!
They are members of the FLDS sect and their &quot;traditional garb&quot; is reflective of the FLDS standards. Mormons, although they may dress a little more conservatively than many of todays provacative standards, look no more different than anyone else.

This show, although unique is continually blurring the lines between the Latter-day Saints (&quot;Mormons&quot;) and the FLDS sect.</description>
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<p>The people depicted here, although they share a history with modern day &#8220;Mormons,&#8221; are NOT MORMONS!<br />
They are members of the FLDS sect and their &#8220;traditional garb&#8221; is reflective of the FLDS standards. Mormons, although they may dress a little more conservatively than many of todays provacative standards, look no more different than anyone else.</p>
<p>This show, although unique is continually blurring the lines between the Latter-day Saints (&#8220;Mormons&#8221;) and the FLDS sect.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-we-love-big-love/#comment-190006</link>
		<dc:creator>whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 02:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toto -- you could not be more wrong. Let&#039;s count the ways.

First, the show is written, created, and produced by two gay guys as an explicit parable to normalize gay relationships, and &quot;gay up&quot; marriage to gay norms, rather than make gays adapt to monogamy. The creators are quite open about this.

Second, polygamy is icky and awful and creates if it gets widespread enough, truly horrific violence. Think that Arab/Muslim and African people are &quot;just evil?&quot; Think again, the polygamy means that a few men have most women and most men have NO WOMEN. Bill&#039;s marriage to three women means that TWO MEN already have no wives. Adding another means ANOTHER MAN goes without. It speaks to pure power and wealth rather than romantic love as pairing off.

The commenter above is correct, there are many other ways of forming families, and the nuclear family is an oddity of Western civilization. It is why European civilization went from Dark Ages backwater to international dominator in a few centuries, and why other cultures are weak, riven with violence, and unable to get men to cooperate (because they are always fighting over women).

Big Love is something only Gay Men and Women could create and watch. It&#039;s Joe Average&#039;s nightmare -- a bunch of &quot;Bills&quot; no matter how nice scooping up all the women and leaving them with violence as the only way to even the score. Of course Gay Men understand NOTHING about Straight Men, nothing at all, and don&#039;t get it. Neither do women, who delude themselves about what life under polygamy is really like (ask Ayaan Hirsi Ali).

That brings up another larger point, most of TV has become a Gay and Female ghetto, largely decadent and debased because of it, completely unable to relate to the concerns of the average man.

To the point that Big Love promotes acceptance of polygamy, it is a dagger right in the heart of male cooperation and the foundation of Western society (the nuclear family). To the point that it normalizes Gay behavior (promiscuity in marriage, multiple partners, etc.) it also is a dagger right in the heart of the nuclear family and the precursor of social collapse such as the White British underclass (chronicled by Theodore Dalrymple) and the Black Ghetto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toto &#8212; you could not be more wrong. Let&#8217;s count the ways.</p>
<p>First, the show is written, created, and produced by two gay guys as an explicit parable to normalize gay relationships, and &#8220;gay up&#8221; marriage to gay norms, rather than make gays adapt to monogamy. The creators are quite open about this.</p>
<p>Second, polygamy is icky and awful and creates if it gets widespread enough, truly horrific violence. Think that Arab/Muslim and African people are &#8220;just evil?&#8221; Think again, the polygamy means that a few men have most women and most men have NO WOMEN. Bill&#8217;s marriage to three women means that TWO MEN already have no wives. Adding another means ANOTHER MAN goes without. It speaks to pure power and wealth rather than romantic love as pairing off.</p>
<p>The commenter above is correct, there are many other ways of forming families, and the nuclear family is an oddity of Western civilization. It is why European civilization went from Dark Ages backwater to international dominator in a few centuries, and why other cultures are weak, riven with violence, and unable to get men to cooperate (because they are always fighting over women).</p>
<p>Big Love is something only Gay Men and Women could create and watch. It&#8217;s Joe Average&#8217;s nightmare &#8212; a bunch of &#8220;Bills&#8221; no matter how nice scooping up all the women and leaving them with violence as the only way to even the score. Of course Gay Men understand NOTHING about Straight Men, nothing at all, and don&#8217;t get it. Neither do women, who delude themselves about what life under polygamy is really like (ask Ayaan Hirsi Ali).</p>
<p>That brings up another larger point, most of TV has become a Gay and Female ghetto, largely decadent and debased because of it, completely unable to relate to the concerns of the average man.</p>
<p>To the point that Big Love promotes acceptance of polygamy, it is a dagger right in the heart of male cooperation and the foundation of Western society (the nuclear family). To the point that it normalizes Gay behavior (promiscuity in marriage, multiple partners, etc.) it also is a dagger right in the heart of the nuclear family and the precursor of social collapse such as the White British underclass (chronicled by Theodore Dalrymple) and the Black Ghetto.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-we-love-big-love/#comment-189977</link>
		<dc:creator>Hector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mormons are not polygamists.  Haven&#039;t been for a hundred years. You cannot belong to the Mormon church and be a polygamist.  Not allowed period. There is no such thing as traditional Mormon garb.  You wouldn&#039;t be able to pick out a Mormon in a crowd based on how he or she is dressed.  Too bad shows like this misinform so blatantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mormons are not polygamists.  Haven&#8217;t been for a hundred years. You cannot belong to the Mormon church and be a polygamist.  Not allowed period. There is no such thing as traditional Mormon garb.  You wouldn&#8217;t be able to pick out a Mormon in a crowd based on how he or she is dressed.  Too bad shows like this misinform so blatantly.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike2</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-we-love-big-love/#comment-189430</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I know why I don&#039;t pay for HBO, that and a steady diet of other crap they air that I don&#039;t like. Maybe now that The One has taken office he will heal the airwaves too.
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John Galt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I know why I don&#8217;t pay for HBO, that and a steady diet of other crap they air that I don&#8217;t like. Maybe now that The One has taken office he will heal the airwaves too.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
John Galt</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Pennsylvania</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-we-love-big-love/#comment-189127</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Five years after I gave up HBO, thanks for the update...

...which makes me so very glad glad, once again, that I gave up HBO. What worthless, voyeuristic crap!

And to think that Tom Hanks went from the brilliant miniseries &quot;From the Earth to the Moon&quot; to serving as executive producer for this pathetic, degenerate rubbish. How tragic ... especially for viewers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Five years after I gave up HBO, thanks for the update&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;which makes me so very glad glad, once again, that I gave up HBO. What worthless, voyeuristic crap!</p>
<p>And to think that Tom Hanks went from the brilliant miniseries &#8220;From the Earth to the Moon&#8221; to serving as executive producer for this pathetic, degenerate rubbish. How tragic &#8230; especially for viewers!</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey mac - great analogy - &quot;Anyone who watches American television these days is doing to their mind what smoking cigarettes does to their lungs.&quot;

However I would exempt Lost and 24.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey mac &#8211; great analogy &#8211; &#8220;Anyone who watches American television these days is doing to their mind what smoking cigarettes does to their lungs.&#8221;</p>
<p>However I would exempt Lost and 24.</p>
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		<title>By: mac</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-we-love-big-love/#comment-187816</link>
		<dc:creator>mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never watched this tripe and never will. Moreover, not that Hanks has come out with his true feelings on how &quot;un-American&quot; Prop 8 voters were, he&#039;ll never see another movie of his earn one cent from me.

Hollyweird is so corrupt and degenerate we&#039;d all be better off if they just shut the place down. The vast majority of their product is simply contemptible, which isn&#039;t surprising given the people who produce it. Anyone who watches American television these days is doing to their mind what smoking cigarettes does to their lungs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never watched this tripe and never will. Moreover, not that Hanks has come out with his true feelings on how &#8220;un-American&#8221; Prop 8 voters were, he&#8217;ll never see another movie of his earn one cent from me.</p>
<p>Hollyweird is so corrupt and degenerate we&#8217;d all be better off if they just shut the place down. The vast majority of their product is simply contemptible, which isn&#8217;t surprising given the people who produce it. Anyone who watches American television these days is doing to their mind what smoking cigarettes does to their lungs.</p>
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		<title>By: G Alston</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-we-love-big-love/#comment-187799</link>
		<dc:creator>G Alston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trash? You guys need to get out more.

The nuclear family isn&#039;t the only possible option, and this show depicts the pluses and minuses of one of the other options. How does polygamy work? Are they nuts? Are polygamists misunderstood? Good? Bad? Can a man truly love many wives? This series explores these questions. An interesting thing here; if the world upended and a great number of males died off this would be one way of basing a society. Mankind has experimented with this many times worldwide. Even biblical figures had multiple wives. Oh wait, that&#039;s where polygamists got the idea. Never mind.

Take the same show and cast it as the life and times of a biblical figure from ages ago and I&#039;m sure that most who think it&#039;s trash would revere it as historical, a beautiful examination and rendering of the time. Oh wait, that&#039;s pretty much what they&#039;re doing, it&#039;s just recast to the modern era. Never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trash? You guys need to get out more.</p>
<p>The nuclear family isn&#8217;t the only possible option, and this show depicts the pluses and minuses of one of the other options. How does polygamy work? Are they nuts? Are polygamists misunderstood? Good? Bad? Can a man truly love many wives? This series explores these questions. An interesting thing here; if the world upended and a great number of males died off this would be one way of basing a society. Mankind has experimented with this many times worldwide. Even biblical figures had multiple wives. Oh wait, that&#8217;s where polygamists got the idea. Never mind.</p>
<p>Take the same show and cast it as the life and times of a biblical figure from ages ago and I&#8217;m sure that most who think it&#8217;s trash would revere it as historical, a beautiful examination and rendering of the time. Oh wait, that&#8217;s pretty much what they&#8217;re doing, it&#8217;s just recast to the modern era. Never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry White Dude</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-we-love-big-love/#comment-187681</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry White Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This show is a disgrace.  I saw it a few times before canceling HBO.  It&#039;s a shot at good Mormon people who are not polygamists.  Also, the one wife to whom you refer doesn&#039;t wear &quot;traditional Mormon garb.&quot;  She wears traditional backwoods polygamist garb like we saw on that ranch in Texas.  I have Mormon friends and their wives are, unfortunately for them, quite happy with Nordstrom.

Angry White Dude</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This show is a disgrace.  I saw it a few times before canceling HBO.  It&#8217;s a shot at good Mormon people who are not polygamists.  Also, the one wife to whom you refer doesn&#8217;t wear &#8220;traditional Mormon garb.&#8221;  She wears traditional backwoods polygamist garb like we saw on that ranch in Texas.  I have Mormon friends and their wives are, unfortunately for them, quite happy with Nordstrom.</p>
<p>Angry White Dude</p>
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		<title>By: paparay</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-we-love-big-love/#comment-187679</link>
		<dc:creator>paparay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Big Love?&quot;  Never heard of it until now.  Doesn&#039;t interest me in the least.

&quot;Who is John Galt?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Big Love?&#8221;  Never heard of it until now.  Doesn&#8217;t interest me in the least.</p>
<p>&#8220;Who is John Galt?&#8221;</p>
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