Why They Hate Sarah Palin
It’s not unusual for politicians to inspire strong emotions. After all, there is a reason why people suggest you avoid talking about race, religion, and politics if you want to have a nice dinner conversation.
But something about Sarah Palin arouses a particularly strong reaction. Liberals attack her children, say grotesquely sexist things about her, embrace wacky conspiracy theories about her faking a pregnancy, and insult every woman in America when they suggest she can’t be a good mother and a politician, too.
Although Sarah Palin is more loved by the Right than any other politician in America, she has her detractors there as well. Staffers engage in whispering campaigns against her, quisling Republicans write offensive columns about her for liberal publications, and sneering Beltway hacks tut-tut about her on the cable news shows.
It would be understandable if Sarah Palin were president and produced this type of reaction, but the governor of Alaska? Most people couldn’t even name a half-dozen governors, much less obsess over what they’re doing.
So why does this lady produce such a big hubbub?
Well, there are many reasons for it, starting with her gender: Sarah Palin, had she been elected to the White House, would have been the first female vice president. Moreover, she has to be the odds-on favorite at this point to become the first woman president.
That upsets liberal feminists to no end because she is a living, breathing refutation of their style of feminism — which is intellectually bankrupt and seems to stand for nothing more than increasing the number of abortions, encouraging teenage girls to act like skanks, and pointlessly complaining about the “patriarchy.” Sarah Palin represents a totally different style of woman: the conservative feminist. She’s had a successful career, raised a big family, and has done it all without aborting an “inconvenient” child or carping about men keeping her down. The idea that Sarah Palin could become the new role model for feminism terrifies liberals, and it inspires them to ramp up the artillery barrage of malignity that they typically launch at conservative women — which is extraordinarily venomous to begin with. Whether it’s Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, or Carrie Prejean, there are few things on Earth that liberals hate more than strong, conservative women.
Palin’s sex has caused problems for her on the Right as well, but not the problems the Left tells you to expect — like gaggles of men who think she should be barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen. Despite the fact that Sarah Palin was the best thing to happen to John McCain’s presidential campaign, the honest truth is that she was an identity politics pick. Had she been a man, someone with her limited experience would have never been selected. On the Left, this wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow, but on the Right, it created waves of resentment that hurt Palin with some Republicans.






Spot on analysis (plus other reasions). I think one thing that’s hurt her is she has obviously been mismanaged, and it’s allowed her to become a cariacture.
Palin could become a serious candidate (and get rid of that cariacture) if she did a few things:
1. Stop getting into PR nonsense (Letterman, her son in law — not her fault, of course, but she could handle it differently).
2. Learn foreign policy. Surround herself with serious foreign policy people (Bolton, Woolsey, Gen. Keane, etc.).
3. On social issues, become libertarian. She’s socially conservative, yes, but that’s her role as a governor. As a national candidate, if she went the federalist/state’s rights route, nobody could pigeonhole her as a Bush clone. She’d be Ron Paul (with a foreign policy that isn’t masochistic).
If she did these three things, she could become a viable national candidate. Until then, I think the media has ruined her — sadly.
Don’t forget one other thing:
Palin is absolutely gorgeous and being beautiful, SMART AND a Conservative is a triple threat to the fugly Lefties.
I have to agree with this essay very spot on.
If she is to stand any chance of becoming POTUS she will need to do a lot better with the “gotcha” interviews from the biased liberal media than she did in the run up to the election.
I found myself feeling sorry for her as well as feeling angry at the interviewer but I also came away feeling that she wasn’t remotely ready for the type of abuse GWB had to endure from the left during his 8-years in office.
She needs to outwardly toughen up and be ready to stamp down hard (metaphorically) on the jerks in the media who feel safe taking a shot at her because of their perceived safety in numbers. She needs to start calling them on their hypocrisy. If she can do that she’ll win a lot more support and respect.
The regressive feminist harpies and political elite do not make up the majority of US citizens so as long as ACORN’s dodgy election work is limited and as long as some balance can be infused into the MSM over the next couple of years (by conservatives getting a toe-hold) then she has a chance. She also needs to prove that she has some foreign policy nous.
An intelligent career woman with family values…. whats not to like?
Sarah is somebody the snobberinos can never be, a woman that us great unwashed types can really identify with. She’s driven her kids to school, shopped for her own food at the market, cooked dinners, done laundry, and the myriad of other stuff that we do on a daily basis.
I want somebody in power who has actually had to balance their own checkbook. A person who has had to make the decisions what bills can I pay, and which ones can I slide for a month in order to deal with whatever finacial crisis us ordinary types deal with daily.
Foreign Policy is an overrated requirement for a national leader. What is more important is that a leader should have a clear understanding and plan for what our nation needs now and in the future. That is what should drive Foreign affairs!
Sarah is all of these things, and the antithesis of everything the latte slurpers espouse. They absolutley despise her because she’s made the connection with us that they can never do.
She’s already provided us with a birdseye view of the sycophant media elites in action. After seeing the unvarnished and visceral hatred directed her way by the glitteratti and their mindless sycophants, anyone with half a brain now sees the MSM for what they really are, a Goebbels like propaganda arm of the elites.
I in no way mean this statement to be anything other than a ringing endorsement of Gov. Sarah Palin, and proudly proclaim to all and sundry “That’s my girl”!
You rock Sarah!
Anybody after power (RINOs, Dems, Leftists, elitists… ) see her as a significant threat to their ambition. She’s a contender based on her authenticity, unlike the rest. She represents everything the Left has been trying to destroy for the past 40 years (i.e. the American Dream, independence, self-reliance ).
See threat, kill threat.
But they undermine their own effort with their irrationality, over-the-top vitriol, and character assassination attempts. What a disgusting display of the worst in human nature.
I really have to say that I don’t consider Palin to be presidential material. I just really didn’t think she had the chops. But then again, those are hardly presidential qualifications anymore, and for that matter, I haven’t seen a candidate in the last 20 years that I really liked.
However, I am totally dismayed that there is so much extreme nastiness directed at a woman who reminds me of so many of the good, intelligent, honest, and hard-working women that I have known, and been related to, throughout my life. The thought of any of them being put through what the Palins have faced truly turns my stomach.
Middle America, the message is clear. The Left hates you. Never forget it.
While I think Nick and Tony are on the right track, Gov. Palin also needs to be in charge of her “handlers” and “advisers.” Otherwise, we will see more of the same crap we did in 2008 – the backroom boys and girls sniping at each other while looking for personal power and not trying to do what was best for Palin, the Party, and the Nation. She needs to have a deeper understanding of the US and foreign policy, with a view of doing what is best for the USA and not Russia, Iran, the EU, etc. And, she needs a solid, easily understood, domestic program that is “not Obama.”
“WHY” They Hate Palin?… Agreed.
If I *may* make a silly remark about “those folks” who ostensibly ‘hate’ her…
…just close your eyes and imagine…
Sheehan/Garafalo 2012
Sometimes it’s best not to ask “why”…heh.
If she’s smart, she’ll wait till 2016. With 2 terms as governor and a little time to hone her message, she will be formidable. That said, it’s a shame the Republican party has no one like her for 2012.
“Learn foreign policy. Surround herself with serious foreign policy people (Bolton, Woolsey, Gen. Keane, etc.).”
So much spin so little truth.
What did she say about foreign policy that was so wrong?
After John McCain threw up his hands in defeat three months before the election, I had no doubt that no one would be able to save his campaign. But then McCain made what was about the only really effective and possibly campaign saving choice by asking Sarah Palin to be his running mate. But then McCain proceeded to run her into the ground and did his best to destroy her candidacy even though she was beautiful, soft but still well spoken, down to earth, and ultra charismatic and probably could have saved the McCain campaign from defeat in spite of John McCain.
However having been associated with the losing McCain campaign, I believe that it is unlikely that the Republican Party will ever give Sarah Palin another chance to prove her worth, and that will be a real shame and could cost the Repubs the next Presidential election as well.
One thing libs & rino’s need to remember when they go after her family:
“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”.
Unless you are 100% certain you know that ALL of your family’s skeletons
are buried so deeply that they will never be unearthed, it might be a good idea to not
attack Palin’s family. Two can play that game.
Nick G:
Palin stands for what is good, true and common-sensical. She stands for what is obviously right, proper and high in the American tradition. Before the Boomer Bolsheviks happened along, she was the common type of American. That she is seen as controversial, or even seen as some new political force to be reckoned with, shows just how low we have fallen and how far we have moved from the understanding, common sense and morality of our forebearers. In any other time, people would have wondered what all the fuss was about–she is merely stating the obvious. It is a simple nobility that would not have been particularly notable.
And it shows how much the Cultural Marxism of the last 50 years have neutered the male sex in this country: Why is it that a woman has to get up and say what is so patently obvious? American men used to put their lives on the line to maintain these beliefs. It was assumed to be a given. Now many (most?) are afraid to even mouth support for what is clearly true and right. It is an absurd development. I do hope that she get a chance at forming a political resistance to this degradation of all that is good in us: It will force all of this out into the open.
And no, she was not “mismanaged”, she was vociferously attacked by every propaganda organ and front of the American Left. There is absolutely nothing wrong with anything that Palin has said or done. That you think otherwise, Nick G., goes to show how far gone you are.
Palin is not articulating anything other than the beliefs that most decent Americans hold, and that have been the bulwark of our nation since its inception and that are the best political articulations of our civilization.
And she was not “getting into PR nonsense”, she was defending her daughter and afoulecnets everywhere (and not just girls either). That you can even think such things tells me that you are left of center–whether you realize it or not.
More Libertarian? Less social conservatism? A sure recipe for defeat.
America is in a spiritual crisis; it is only being manifest as a political one.
I do not know whether you are a leftist posing as a “moderate” in order to give bad “advice” or a misguided “moderate”, but this wimpy, solipsistic and opportunistic “libertarian economic moderate/Socially Cultural Marxist” stance is just part of the problem. Pure Bo-Bo cant.
Libertarianism is just a dodge by those that are smart enough to know that their pocket is being pick, but too callow to face why this is happening. It is just another form of economic determinism, and will lead to the same results in the end. It is just as woolly-headed Utopian a construct as is Socialism–perhaps more so for it has never even been attempted in history, and for good reason. It attracts the same sort of opportunists as does all the collectivist ideologies. While we are waiting for “libertarian man” to show up, we will be led off to the gulags by yet another herd of jackals who, no doubt, will feel that they too are more morally correct than the rest of us. It is not the answer to our problems. Cleaving toward the founding thoughts and and their traditions–particularity those encoded in law–is the ticket. That our founding principle support some libertarian concepts is nether here nor there. Let us not confuse principles with outcomes.
We need to get over this notion of “revolutions”, “interpretations” and “innovations”, and come down to earth. We need to stop imagining that the boomer generation has the character or capacity in them to do much more than keep faith with what is best in our traditions. Even this seems to be a daunting and well-nigh impossible challenge. We certainly do not need more ideological experiments at this stage in our debasement. It may already be too late.
We need restoration, not “innovation”. The only honorable way out for the boomer generation os to sober up, acquire some humility and save what we can.
Perhaps Palin can lead the way.
afoulecnets=adolescents
All great points. Even without all those reasons the Left and the Democrats in power simply smear all opponents they view contenders regardless of whether it’s an elected or appointed office. It’s what they do. Why would a debate on energy cause liberals to state someone was just a cheerleader? She could read the Quran (libs never read the Bible) and they’d say she’s wrong because all she is is a moose killer.
Point is, ignore the liberals and go after convincing the 80% decent people that live in this country how wacko those folks really are.
John Hawkins hits the nail squarely on the head for an article written in the fall of 2008. All his points remain true but there is now one further and perhaps the most important reason for liberals to destroy her. She has indeed proven that she was in 2008, and remains to day, better qualified for the Presidency then Barak Obama. The liberals biggest fear is that after four years she will still be better qualified then the One so they are doing their best to destroy her now and steer the Republicans into nominating a easily defeated RINO or extremist.
The truth is that Palin has at least 5-10 IQ points on Obama (Not that Obama is stupid, he is just intellectually lazy) and has a better understanding of how world works. In a fictional world where the US still had a balanced media she would win in a walk.
She’s cute, wholesome, determined.. Didn’t break under unscrupulous attacks over the last year or so.. A perfect target for the green-eyed monster.
Everybody and their uncles think they know best what Sarah should do. Some have bought into the Democrat party line about her supposed failings in foreign policy, reading material. Never mind that her record in Alaska beats any out there, always empowered by studying what needs to be studied and therefore better prepared than the opposition. Never mind that she repeatedly shows a better understanding of foreign affairs than the fools in the White House any day of the week. Never mind that her political instincts keep ringing true and her best strategy is proven to be just to be herself. She underestimated the enemy last fall, but she is ready for them now. Most of the enemy believe in the fantasy version of her. She has the advantage.
Davod: I think it was the Katy Couric interview that she seemed to come out of so badly which really hurt her by allowing the left to portray her as know-nothing, and she was just too nice and took the punches from Couric without dishing out any of her own.
She will never get a fair shake from the media. Like RWR, she needs to skip the media interviews and talk directly to the American people.
“” … Sarah Palin … has to be the odds-on favorite at this point to become the first woman president. “”
Yeah!
Thank God for His greatness! (And for America’s!)
PALIN/PETRAEUS/2012!
Brian Richard Allen
Los Angeles Califobambicated 90028
And the Far Abroad
Formwiz says it’s a shame the Republican party has no one like Alaska’s Governor Sarah Palin for 2012.
Fair enough.
But we do have someone like California’s former governor Ronald Wilson Reagan:
Alaska’s Governor Sarah Palin!
PALIN/PETRAEUS/2012
– B A
Sarah, if you’re reading—please, run.
We need someone who does more than talk about our values, we need someone who embodies our values–please, run.
This country was built upon principles which you’ve shown in your own life–a commitment to your family, your community, your state, and your country–please, run.
We need a leader who is antiseptic to the disease that’s plaguing us, the statist liberalism and leftist encroachment on freedom–please, run.
We need a leader who inspires the best in our side, and exposes the vulgar hypocrisy of the left in so many ways–please, run.
We need a leader who can inspire, rejuvenate and recognize the greatness in America, not denigrate and deleverage it as is being done now–please, run.
We need a leader who can recognize that America’s freedoms are a candle in the wind and the statist liberal is huffing and puffing and blowing that out—please, run.
We need a leader who understands there are enemies out there who would destroy America, both foreign and domestic–and a leader should recognize that we need to defend from both—please, run.
We need to see the power of a strong woman in the White House–please, run.
God Bless you and your family
It has absolutely nothing to do with her gender — and everything to do with her vacuousness.
I knew she was a major problem — and someone who definitely doesn’t understand what ails us — when the first words out of her mouth during the VP debate was about the greed on wall street. My heart sank on those words and I regretted donating money to McCain from that point forward. Oh great, another populist without substance — Mike Huckabee in drag. No thanks.
Defenders of Wildlife send out enough mean literature on her to kill a forest. I am serious; they send so much junk mail attacking her. They call her “Cruella De Palin” in their ads. The latest is a character holding up dead wolf puppies and making her look like “Cruella De Ville”. I hope Defenders know that I will never give them a cent. I hope they know that I think they are the meanest charity on earth. I will never support the politically mean charity again. They send it out to all mailboxes, and they send videos of the wolves dying by aerial gunfire in Alaska, but they are more political than ACORN. Defenders of Wildlife must have started a new campaign against her as soon as McCain lost, unless they never stopped it.
I feel sorry for her, and I cannot write what I think of that charity, because they act as if they are a charity from a third world country.
I will never give one cent to the hatemongering charity again.
Why we like Palin:
She’s a woman politician
She’s good looking
She pro-life
She’s religious
Her family values are priceless
She doesn’t speak those foreign languages
She doesn’t travel abroad
She’s pro-guns
She can kill for her own food and clothing
She talks like a parrot
She’s ambitious
She wants to be president
Her education is average
She can see Russia from her home
She doesn’t overexpose with press conferences
She’s a Republican!
and, she can lead a nation of 300 million people
The question isn’t “why?” but “who?”
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/06/video_rabid_letterman_protesto.html
I’m so darn *sniff* proud.
As for Palin, we don’t hate her . . . we hate what she stands for . . . religious extremism, trampling of civil rights, abuse of power, and rank hypocrisy. The more we see of her the better.
How would hussane obama stand up to the barrage Palin has endured? He’s completly untested.
(#28 must be on the ACORN payroll)
Sheesh:
Show examples to support your claims.
Obama has already demonstrated that he suuports the trampling of civil rights (detainees policy is the same as Bushes), has abusd his power (overturned bankruptcy law to give goodies to his supporters) and is rank hypocrite (see civil rights)
Great analysis! ” . . . because she is a living, breathing refutation of their style of feminism.”
That, and she’s really hot.
Re #13
The truth is that Palin has 5-10 IQ points on Obama. I would rather know the credit score of a candidate than his or her raw IQ.
Great essay and all good points. My take is that Palin’s worst enemies are in her own party and that simply because she is not part of the political elite.
28. sheesh wrote:
As for Palin, we don’t hate her . . . we hate what she stands for . . . religious extremism
Obama: We are not a Christian Nation. The US is one of the largest Muslim nations on Earth…
…trampling of civil rights…
Obama: Cut off that Radio station that was planning on broadcasting the truth about me.
…abuse of power…
Obama: Fire the CEO of GM. I don’t care what the company’s stock holders, employees, or owners think!
…and rank hypocrisy…
Obama: Stop the Military tribunals. No, keep the military tribunals! Shut down Gitmo! No, keep Gitmo open! Wiretaps must end! Wait, we need wiretaps for national intel! Stop torture! Unless I think its necessary!
‘Nuff said?
Problem for Letterman and other liberal
“comedians” is that the clowns in power,
Obama, Biden, Pelosi etc and their families
are of course off limits.
On the positive side he has an audience
that have been conditioned like Pavlov’s
dogs. Anytime he mentions Bush, Cheney or
Palin he gets a laugh regardless of what
he says. When you have the same unfunny
shtick year after year you have to work in
new targets as Bush and Cheney are
getting long in the tooth.
Most of the regular never miss Letterman
viewers I know are stoners. They hate
conservatives because they are paranoid
over heavy prosecution for illegal drug
possession. That reminds me of a joke
about a VP’s daughter and snorting coke-
wait can’t tell it-they’re Democrats.
Everyone always wails about Palin being attacked during the campaign. Like what? “What newspapers do you read?” Outrageous! Seriously, what attacks?
Re # 26 I drive down the dirt roads
I can’t believe you ever did give a penny to a group named “Defenders of Wildlife,” and to keep calling them a “charity” really cracked me up.
It is interesting to watch the struggle surrounding Palin. It is true that she is a very inspiring figure to many in the GOP, particularly the more conservative. I don’t think it is accurate to say that people “hate” Palin – people simply have responded to her in different ways.
Those who agree with her, whose beliefs mirror hers, are likely to find in her a very sympathetic character. All of her flaws just make her more like “one of us”. Minimal education? Intensely religious? Can’t identify a newspaper or SCOTUS case? Can’t make abstinence work for her family? Exactly like her supporters.
I think the most interesting observation in the article is that “Sarah Palin’s views are much more representative of the average conservative in flyover country than even some Republicans would like.”
The truth of that statement is exactly why the left appears to “hate” her, and also why those of us on the left are doing our best Brer Rabbit routine. She is so far from the center, so out of touch with reality, that there is basically no chance she could win a national election.
Please don’t throw us in the brier patch, GOP. We wouldn’t know what do with such a charismatic, strong-willed, well-spoken, principled woman. Right?
Peace.
DS
Given that Palin has kept within her budget without resorting to life on a local fixers payroll her credit score is probably higher as well.
Many liberal friends mentioned to me last election cycle that they HATE Palin. Hate. That’s a pretty strong word for liberals. Still, they hate her.
Let’s be honest, though. Palin didn’t handle things very well last election cycle. The Couric interview was awful. “What do you read?” “I’ll have to get back to you on that.” The turkey being slaughtered behind her at an interview. Dumb. At her worst, she became a caricture of herself. I thought she redeemed herself a bit at the convention, but the narative was written by the MSM, so it was just too late.
Still, she’s been most highly and unfairly targeted. For sure. And she is HATED. But it is clearly a love-hate relationship as she clearly brings-in ratings. Palin has been far more newsworthy than, say, McCain. In fact, MSM bashing of Palin and Limbaugh is all that remains, until (and if) they turn their guns on Obama.
Sarah Palin tramples on civil rights and abuses power Sheesh? C’mon. This from a guy who supports Obama, the one who is currently using his power to take over private industry in this country and his claims of “transparency” have now gone out the window? LOL!
30. jerryofva:
Claiming the Iraq War is is god’s will . . . belonging to a church with a pastor who spends his time hunting witch doctors in Africa . . . using her position to to try to destroy her brother in law’s trooper career . . . charing the state for family travel and per diem while “working at home” . . . buying (and keeping!) $150K of clothes that YOU paid for . . . trumpeting family values an abstinence for every one but her own family . . . “thanks but no thanks” on that bridge to nowhere that she supported . . . grandstanding about refusing $28 million in stimulus funds when she accepted more than $200 million in stimulus funds . . . saying she’s against earmarks when, as Alaska’s governor, she hired a lobbyist to secure more earmark money per capita than any other state . . . denying that her husband belonged to a secessionist organization . . .
How many more do you want?
This rabid, left-wing foolishness surrounding Palin is all about politics, not comedy. The left’s been getting away with this stuff for years with others they don’t like. This time, however, one old commie got the ridicule dumped back on him. Way to go SARAH!
Besides, is all in goood fun. Da comrade?
“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also, it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.”
Saul Alinsky, Rules For Radicals 1971
Hmmm not sure about the Romney comment. Here in flyover country, we liked them both with Sarah probably edging out a bit more. Together, we’d be thrilled.
Delia’s right – Palin is attractive. Attractive women seem to inspire cattiness in unattractive women and insecure men – journalists and Democrats (redundant) in other words.
Wow, this sure isn’t as snappy as “I can see Russia from my house”, is it?
THAT quote is from Tina Fey. This one is from Palin.
PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals. That’s why we have to keep an eye on Russia.
And, Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They’re very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?
PALIN: Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
It’s obvious that the left has got the memo and it’s been decided that Sarah Palin is a threat that must be destroyed. They would have us believe that it’s due to her stupidity but the other obvious conclusion is it’s because of her strength as a candidate.
“As for Palin, we don’t hate her . . . we hate what she stands for . . . religious extremism, trampling of civil rights, abuse of power, and rank hypocrisy. The more we see of her the better.”
Surely, your joking.
This is so true. From what I have seen coming out of these so called Ivy League schools today, I don’t want my kids to have any part of them. They seem to be producing a new generation of Chavez’s, Lenin’s and Stalin’s.
I think you will find if you took a poll that the left doesn’t really care what Palin does. It is the right who gets in a tizzy at every spat she engages in. If anything they hope that she will be the standard bearer in 2012
Sheesh:
This is summer of 2009 not the fall of 2008. Your campgaign talking points have already been debunked and/or shown to be out and out lies.
Once again you have shown yourself to be a blatherer of obsolete talking points and of subnormal intelligence. I believe that you are one of those chimpanzees that has learned to use pictures on a computer to communicate. Wait a minute, I think the chimp has a few more IQ points on you.
Sarah Palin understands the fundamental difference between good and evil. Reagan knew it too. That is more the the current occupant of the White House does.
Palin/Ensign 2012!
I adore Palin. I want to BE Palin.
But, Palin needs to stay away from the media. Avoid them like the plague. Even Greta VanSustern, who is firmly on her side. She needs to keep her kids far away from the cameras and not mention them on the road or in interviews. Stay off of those stupid shows like SNL and focus on what matters.
And the common electorate needs to do what it can to expose members of the media for the fools that they are.
Here’s something relevant I wrote back during the campaign. I lived 20 years in Alaska, and I’m pretty proud of Sarah. As per the Letterman thing — I dare the unfunny show host to make those jokes with Todd in the room.
Sarah Palin Giant Leap for Womankind
Women everywhere keen on their rights, prosperity and liberation should be celebrating right now. And many are. Sarah Palin is the New Woman showing millions of other young women fresh routes to happiness and success. She comes from the future and the frontier, not the fever-swamp feminist wars of yesteryear.
No scold, she doesn’t arrive with some dreary ideology you must subscribe to for entry to a club, with requisite secret lingo, winks and nods that so many young women of today find odd and repugnant. Her religious and pro-life principles ride lightly with her, her personal choices, but since they are part of the package give others permission to exercise their own principles, even if those include respect for the sanctity of life.
She can fire a weapon, dress out a moose, run a set net, drive a snow machine, grow a beautiful family, govern a town and a state — and clean up corruption among the toughest political bigwigs. She wasn’t born rich, grew up in a regular family, and did not attend the fanciest schools. She is genuinely feminine and attractive, and tough as nails, simultaneously.
Palin appreciates Title IX and is thankful for its contribution to her girlhood, yet does not believe government has all the answers — some things are up to us. And thus her greatest contribution: her very persona and rise to prominence sings of self-reliance and independence — how to grab hold of something yourself and make it great.
What a lesson to youngsters! What a woman! No wonder women young and young at heart are excited and inspired. Who wouldn’t be?
But since her VP nomination Palin’s grit has filtered into the gears of the national establishment and the sound of the grinding is deafening. Especially the media. Charlie Gibson of ABC interviewed Palin after he did an earlier interview of Barack Obama. Note the difference in the questions:
Obama interview:
How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to “win”?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s speech?
Palin interview:
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
Is America fighting a holy war?
Gibson delivered these questions all puffed up and reared back in his chair, beadling ominously at Palin down his spectacle-perch nose. His biggest gotcha question was supposed to be on the Bush Doctrine, which it turned out he was wrong about and she was right! And on the holy war question, Gibson misquoted Palin in his overreach for a zinger, which failed.
Suffice to say the interview was not the mainstream media’s finest hour, nor has been the entire campaign: polling shows a vast number of Americans recognize the media’s bias for Obama.
The Democrats and their spokesmen, the media, pulled out all stops to denigrate Palin over her experience in foreign and domestic policy, as a VP nominee. But they skirt the fact that a number of governors with the same experience have been elected to the Presidency. And Palin’s executive experience as a mayor and governor — actually running something and making tough decisions — is many times greater that the man at the top of the Democrat ticket. Meanwhile, her reputation as a reformer is unquestioned, while Obama’s is simply nonexistent.
The media and the Dems are still churning overtime in an attempt to drive up Palin’s negatives. A virtual army of reporters and opposition research lawyers descended upon Anchorage, Juneau, and Wasilla in a paroxysm of dirt-kicking about the Governor. Thus far they’ve found little except an 80%-plus approval rating among her Alaska constituents. Any Alaskan will tell you that this is astounding in a state where political participation and contentiousness is a hallowed tradition.
Palin may be our Vice President, and the elitists are howling, grinching, scratching, and gnashing over the prospect. But the 60,000 people, a large fraction of them women, who came to a recent Palin rally in Florida would likely tell them to take their elitism and stick it where the sun don’t shine, so it may keep company with the rest of their ideology. Go, Sarah!
Excellent article, and I absolutely agree with the first comment by Nick G.
Palin is TOO VALUABLE a commodity of the GOP for them to squander by allowing her to fizzle out too quickly. She needs some ironing out, and time to distance herself from the disgusting media caricature foisted upon her. I remember reading an article (I forget the title and the name of its author)comparing similar challenges that Margaret Thatcher faced on her political journey towards Prime Minister. Also bear in mind the time it took between Reagan’s “A Time for Choosing Speech” and his inauguration.
Palin in 2016! Or if she runs in 2012, may she finish a respectable 2nd place (Republican presidential primary history being what it is).
Fascinating, isn’t it, to witness Sheesh’s doubtless sincere attempt to support it’s emotional stance re Palin with easily debunked “evidence”. Proof again, perhaps, of Savage’s mantra that liberalism is a ‘mental disorder’?
Those of us who formerly exhibited that same disorder, however, (yes, Roger, the likes of you and I), are also testament to the disease’s potential for cure. yet, what that cure is – what triggers the disease’s remission – remains a mystery, sadly. A mystery we’d best solve before the curtain comes down on these United States for good.
Vivo (#27): You actually listed some of the main reasons why I love Sarah! Good job, buddy! I never will pretend that I can predict the future, but I feel comfortable saying this: if Obama keeps on going the way he is, Sarah is going to annihilate him in 2012. 1980 anyone?
I have been surprised several times by the vituperative attitudes expressed regarding Sarah by seeming ‘nice’ mostly decent folks.
It is simply the case that a good christian woman is now seen as cause for disgust and the object of scorn by a large % of americans. Especially in the case of of pro abortion women. The hatred is palpable.
What happens to a society when average women take on the characteristics of a gangland mol?
What is it about Palin that has her detractors so repulsed?
I’d say repulsed is the wrong word. Sarah Palin is real and libruls (esp. female libruls) find authentic & real very personally threatening.
That upsets liberal feminists to no end because she is a living, breathing refutation of their style of feminism —
Yes
Despite the fact that Sarah Palin was the best thing to happen to John McCain’s presidential campaign…
I’d like to say (for the record) that John McCain’s remarks on Leno a couple of months back were thoroughly revolting, repulsive, even. Asked to list future Republican leaders, he named a few of the usual suspects (Pawlenty, Jindal etc.) and then said to Leno…”You’ll notice there’s someone I left out…”
What a dork to make such a comment about his own choice of running mate.
Had she been a man, someone with her limited experience would have never been selected.
I’d like to protest and say that Sarah Palin obviously knows orders of magnitude more than Obama when it comes to effectively running things & governing.
I’ll tell you what. I’ll throw out the part where she couldn’t name any magazines she reads, I’ll throw out the part where she said some states are more pro-american than others, I’ll even throw out the part where she implied Russia had invaded US air space (which sent some people at the State Dept. running for the phones btw). I’m willing to call all of those accidental gaffes but could someone, anyone, please show me a single coherent thing this woman has said about foreign policy? She’s a disaster! She gives every impression of having never taken an interest in anything outside of Alaskan domestic policy until she became VP nominee. It’s not something you can just pick up on the job. If she runs in 2012 she’ll lose to Obama, if she runs in 2016 against Biden I’d give her 50/50 odds.
**Had she been a man, someone with her limited experience would have never been selected.**
The problem was, however, that that everyone who did have experience SUCKED.
Thanks to the big tent, the GOP was filled with Arlen Specters and his ilk, together with a bunch of snooty, blue-blood, sh*t-for-brains, elitists. If there was anybody better than Palin, we would not have had John “most electable” McCain in the first place!
@60. Paul in MI:
“She’s a disaster! She gives every impression of having never taken an interest in anything outside of Alaskan domestic policy until she became VP nominee. It’s not something you can just pick up on the job.”
I have to agree with you on that.
“If she runs in 2012 she’ll lose to Obama, if she runs in 2016 against Biden I’d give her 50/50 odds.”
That’s assuming that Biden would run in 2016. Do you really think Hillary would sit 2016 out? I think a Palin/Clinton matchup much more likely. Of course, this far out, there are probably a number of folks that have yet to show up on the radar screen that may make all of this moot. That said, I would not be at all surprised to see a head-to-head contest to elect the first female President in 2016. I expect Clinton would win by a nose.
Peace.
DS
If Sarah Palin were ever to head the Republican ticket her support would have to emerge from the grass roots, ala Reagan. She has the wit, candor, common sense and values to become a populist candidate. Milquetoast, big-government moderates might reject her in favor of Romney or Huckaby, but most conservatives would empty their wallets to get her on the ballot.
And the major reason the leftists hate her? She’s a Christian…and no, not “religious”…Muslims, Hindus and Mormons are also religious…but leftists HATE Christians.
36. sheesh wrote:
Seriously, what attacks?
Peter writes: Obviously someone who does nothing to keep up on current events, like perhaps reading a newspaper or on-line news story.
Let’s see, just off the top of my head;
The so-called fake pregnancy.
The fake book-banning list.
The false extremist religious views.
The false racial prejudice ascribed to her. (Most laughable considering her husband is Native American)
The fake depictions of her intelligence, especially when most of the so-called gaffes ascribed to her came from SNL skits by Tina Fey.
Even more so when you take into account all the gaffes The Won and his idiot VP have made that liberals, especially the ones ‘writing’ the news always seem to ignore.
Shall I go on, or will you actually look up facts to hold an honest debate, or would you rather continue to go into a battle of intellects unarmed?
#21 Locomotive Breathe…..
SPOT ON….Bypass the media…Let Sarah talk directly to the American People…
LANDSLIDE WIN IN 2012 !!!
A damn effective Executive. A tremendous communicator. Doesn’t back down and maintains her dignity even in the face of vicious personal attacks against her and her family. Comes from the middle of America and hasn’t allowed herself to be sucked into the “special person” perception of the elitists.
I could go on. Let the haters, hacks, and “experts” say she doesn’t belong on the national stage. If she is as smart as she appears, she’ll take her case directly to the people and bypass the need for support from the media elites.
Ohmygosh, stop with the incompetent points.
You heard Biden’s comment just a few days ago on the failure of the Porkulus to produce results ?
“We guessed wrong.”
You heard Obama yesterday defending his illustrious position as having to make the best “decisions” on behalf of the ‘merican peeples despite criticism of those decisions ?
nonono (quoting JWright) this place is looking like the theater of the absurd. Palin (even McCain) couldn’t and wouldn’t possibly have been so dumb.
40. Milton wrote:
Let’s be honest, though. Palin didn’t handle things very well last election cycle. The Couric interview was awful.
Peter writes: That’s call editing. The network edited the interview to DELIBERATELY make Palin look bad.
Can you imagine what kind of interview The Won would have if the news organizations treated him the way theu did Governor Palin?
Interviewer: What is your opinion on the current state of affairs in North Korea?
The Won: Uh…uh… um… uh… um… Korea… um… uh… um… bad… um… (is that teleprompter working?)… um… uh… uh…
It’s all in the editing. The Governor didn;t look anywhere near as bad as people claim in the snippits of raw footage of the same interviews I have seen here and there on the web.
42. sheesh wrote (of Palin):
Claiming the Iraq War is is god’s will . . . belonging to a church with a pastor who spends his time hunting witch doctors in Africa . . .
Peter writes (of Obama): Claiming the war in Iraq was lost before the surge he opposed was even implemented, and now claiming he’s winning it. Sitting in the pews of a racist church led by a racist pastor for 20 years, a pastor who rails against anyone not black, who damns the USA and compares the entire country to the KKK, and then The Won claims never to have heard a single instance of talk like that?
Sorry, but you need to find another straw man. Yours has blown completely to pieces.
50. jerryofva wrote:
I believe that you are one of those chimpanzees that has learned to use pictures on a computer to communicate. Wait a minute, I think the chimp has a few more IQ points on you.
Peter writes: Careful, Jerry. Any mention of chimps nowadays is taken as a direct personal insult to Obama by the followers of The Won.
I wouldn’t want you being hung in effigy for a mis-spoken word.
Paul – You have a 75 year old Joe Biden as the Democratic favorite in 2016 and you expect a sensible answer your questions about Sarah Palin’s chances?
I see the “mismanaged” comment crop up a lot in discussions of Gov. Palin, and I have to wonder if it’s not an accident, but a product of resentment at an “outsider” by the career politicos.
Honestly, most of the people in Washington these days have life-long careers focussed on politics, have come out of politically-minded schools, worked on staffs and campaigns regardless of who is in power, and pretty much insulated their whole lifestyle away from ordinary citizens. These sorts are bound to resent Gov. Palin for being in reality what so many politicians try to pretend to be, a private citzen who has risen to the ranks of national politician based on a little luck and a lot of natural ability.
Plus, unlike V.P. Biden, I bet she’d know if her “favorite” hometown restaurant had closed a decade ago.
From #6…
See threat, kill threat.
But they undermine their own effort with their irrationality, over-the-top vitriol, and character assassination attempts. What a disgusting display of the worst in human nature…
This is a Blood Sport for the left and they don’t care how they win as long as thy win.. Goldwater in 64 .. Bork.. Thomas.. Prejean.. Palin.. Joe the Plumber..
( What is scary about Joe is that when you have an elected official – Sec. of State involved with illegal wrong doings shows how far they will go..)
From # 7.. Middle America, the message is clear. The Left hates you. Never forget it.
Or anybody who opposes them.. they will attack their own if they get out of line..
And the liberal attackers come out with their usual tactics. See what is wrong with their guy and then transfer those failings to their target. But do it in talking points and not as a discussion with the other fellow travelers here.
I could have told you what they would write with only the info that we were talking about a Republican that might be a threat to win the White House or a seat in Congress.
Sheesa,
Claiming the Iraq War is is god’s will
Palin asked the students to pray for the troops in Iraq, and noted that her eldest son, Track, was expected to be deployed there.
“Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God,” she said. “That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God’s plan.”
Praying for a plan. Ok.
belonging to a church with a pastor who spends his time hunting witch doctors in Africa . . .
Obama belongs to a church that calls that said ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people, God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.” “We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.”
using her position to to try to destroy her brother in law’s trooper career . . .
No he did that his self. Beyond the investigation sparked by the family, trooper commanders saw cause to discipline or give written instructions to correct Wooten seven times since he joined the force, according to Grimes’ letter to Wooten.
Those incidents included: a reprimand in January 2004 for negligent damage to a state vehicle; a January 2005 instruction after being accused of speeding, unsafe lane changes, following too closely and not using turn signals in his state vehicle; a June 2005 instruction regarding personal cell phone calls; an October 2005 suspension from work after getting a speeding ticket; and a November 2005 memo “to clarify duty hours, tardiness and personal business during duty time.”
charing the state for family travel and per diem while “working at home” . . .
pay back taxes on nearly $18,000 in expenses. Former Gov. Frank Murkowski, spent $463,000 on travel in 2006. Palin spent $93,000 in 2007, records show
buying (and keeping!) $150K of clothes that YOU paid for . . .
Palin’s clothes did not constitute “personal use of campaign funds” because the funds in question came from the RNC instead of the McCain/Palin campaign. I think I heard somewhere that she donated them to Michelle Obama.
trumpeting family values an abstinence for everyone but her own family . . .
You have kids? How well do yours listen.
“thanks but no thanks” on that bridge to nowhere that she supported . . .
She endorsed the multimillion dollar project during her gubernatorial race in 2006. And while she did take part in stopping the project after it became a national scandal, she did not return the federal money. She just allocated it elsewhere. If it was better spent elsewhere no problem.
grandstanding about refusing $28 million in stimulus funds when she accepted more than $200 million in stimulus funds . . .
“We are not requesting funds intended to just grow government,” Palin said. “In essence we say no to operating funds for more positions in government.” I was in Anchorage when this happen and most locals supported it.
saying she’s against earmarks when, as Alaska’s governor, she hired a lobbyist to secure more earmark money per capita than any other state . . .
Palin helped obtain through the earmark process: $500,000 for a youth shelter, $1.9 million for a transportation hub, $900,000 for sewer repairs and $15 million for a rail project, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan watchdog group, Taxpayers for Common Sense. I would think those are probably more worthy projects that pig odor. For the 2008 budget Sen. Barack Obama, submitted a laundry list of federal funding requests to the Senate Appropriations Committee: 112 earmarks totaling more than $330 million in taxpayer funds.
denying that her husband belonged to a secessionist organization . . .
Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, said Todd Palin twice registered under the Alaskan Independence Party — in 1995 and 2000. Some members of the party have advocated secession from the United States, though that is not a goal listed in the party’s platform. Again see Rev. Wright.
Sarah Palin is the democrats best asset. She only appeals to the incredibly shrinking GOP base: the “Racist, Homophobic Jesus-Freak”. She is an absolute joke, and the moderate republicans (the ones who have a chance at getting elected), can’t tell her to go away, because of the base. Its a win-win for democrats.
Go Sarah!
being muzzled and leashed by grandpas campaign,can we really know her foriegn policy stands? I trust her to know a treat when she sees one-forein or domestic. More credit than I can give anyone else at the moment.
1. Nick G: “1. Stop getting into PR nonsense (Letterman, her son in law — not her fault, of course, but she could handle it differently).
2. Learn foreign policy. Surround herself with serious foreign policy people (Bolton, Woolsey, Gen. Keane, etc.).
3. On social issues, become libertarian. She’s socially conservative, yes, but that’s her role as a governor. As a national candidate, if she went the federalist/state’s rights route, nobody could pigeonhole her as a Bush clone. She’d be Ron Paul (with a foreign policy that isn’t masochistic).
If she did these three things, she could become a viable national candidate. Until then, I think the media has ruined her — sadly.”
RFE.
They went pretty far down the road towards runing her, but they did not accomplish that without her help. Albeit she did not have a whole lot of time to get up to speed in the wake of being chosen to be McCain’s veep, she could have worked a bit harder on those issues with which she was not well versed on (such as FP) and avoided that disastrous display with the Couric interview which left me wondering whether or not she is a flake. My confidence in her was compromised, and I am afraid she is going to have to do a 180 in some areas to restore it. AFA social issues, she is going to have to soften up a bit or she will have no chance at all at the top of a national ticket. It’s just the way it is.
Spot on, John.
A trivial point: if she’s elected, she’ll be the first President of the United States who played with Barbies as a child. But she probably accessorized them with G.I. Joe’s M-1 and Carbine.
“It’s abortion, stupid.”
Sarah Palin’s life-welcoming choice with her beautiful Down syndrome boy, and her daughter’s, stabs the consciences of a hundred million Americans. Their inexplicable visceral reaction wears many masks, but is powered by that one thing.
How many readers of this column have had an abortion or have had a part in one? I’ll bet one in three, or maybe one in two. I’m not condemning; on the contrary, she shows the way forward for many who have made the wrong choice and now have another chance. I’m just saying that the dividing line of the great moral issue of our time runs exactly between the words Sarah and Palin.
Fragmentarian –
You misunderstood me, Biden running in 2016 is the best case scenario for Palin. I don’t think it’s terribly unlikely though, Reagan was 70 and 70 was a lot older in 1980 than it is now, McCain was 72. I would put my money on Hillary though.
I love any writer that can use the word “skank” in an article! Great Job!!
Sorry, Sarah is a joke. When she accepted Letterman’s apology, she squeezed in a reference to her support on the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. I’ve never seen such blatant pandering.
I’ve saw her on Hannity where she went on about how Alaskans don’t have to deal with the burden of tax. Well it’s not because of smart book-keeping, but because it’s one of the richest states in the union due to oil and it’s small population. It’s ironic that this new golden calf of the Republican party governs a state where each citizen gets a check every month. Sharing the wealth or Cost of Living Allowance?
You know our Governor Rick Perry has pretty hair too, and I think he could give Obama a run for his money.
I am sorry to say that I use to support Defenders and what a mistake I made. I love wolves, even though we have cattle, I still love them. Wolves are my favorite wildlife, and any kind of bear. I realize they endure and they are here to stay, but I still say it is poor sportsmanship to hunt from planes. My husband never could stand that political organization on Capitol Hill (Defenders).
I like Governor Palin, and I think they treat her terribly, but if she is reading this please stop aerial hunting of wildlife, it is poor sportsmanship and gives the hunters too much advantage.
I will not change my opinion on aerial hunting.
As a very attractive, feminine, strong, red-blooded American woman, Sarah is more manly than 60% of the men in this country. And I say that with all admiration.
Good point sheesh. Pass the bong.
Liberals do not dislike Sarah Palin because they feel she is a threat.
They dislike her because they see her as nothing more than a feeble-minded opportunist who pathetically and desperately clings to her quickly fading star by manufacturing outrage and controversy to stay relevant. With her political fortunes drying up, she’ll now pretty much say or do absolutely anything just to stay on TV, because when it comes to actually governing Alaska vs. flying around the country on Alaska’s dime to exploit her failed candidacy and exploit her family to stay famous and make money, Palin always chooses the latter.
They also dislike her because she consistently exhibits many of the following dreadful qualities that we typically despise in any human being, regardles sof gender or political affiliation:
Dishonesty:
-She has lied about the Bridge To Nowhere. She ran for office favoring it, wore a sweatshirt defending it, and only gave it up when the federal congress, Senator McCain in particular, went ballistic. She kept the money anyway and favors funding Don Young’s Way, at twice the cost of the original bridge.
- She lied about her firing of the town librarian and police chief of Wasilla, Alaska.
- She lied about pressure on Alaska’s public safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law.
- She lied about Alaska’s contribution to America’s oil and gas production.
- She lied about when she asked her daughters for their permission for her to run for vice-president.
- She lied about the actual progress in constructing a natural gas pipeline from Alaska.
- She lied about the use or non-use of a TelePrompter at the St Paul convention.
- She lied about her alleged pay-cut as mayor of Wasilla.
- She lied about what Alaska’s state scientists concluded about the health of the polar bear population in Alaska.
Hypocrisy:
-She rails against Socialism, and against the Democrats as being a Socialist party, but she is governor of a state that takes millions of dollars in our federal tax money each year and just hands it out in bonuses to the residents of her state, even though they did absolutely nothing to earn it. That is Socialism.
-She railed against earmarks and pork throughout the campaign, however during her time as mayor of Wasilla, a town of 6000, she collected a total of $27 million dollars in earmarks from the federal government. Her state receives more money in pork than any other.
-She simultaneously throws her family into the public arena while schizophrenically screaming at the media to leave her family alone. If you don’t want the public talking about your pregnant daughter, don’t parade your daughter around on the campaign trail, don’t make her go on TV talk shows to talk about her sex life, and don’t make your pregnant daughter be a “teen ambassador” for a line of pro-abstinence clothing made by a company that makes sexually provocative clothes for pre-teens.
-She claims that abstinence-only sex ed is the only way to prevent pregnancy, but her own family is a complete refutation of that. She has a pregnant teenage daughter who didn’t even finish high school before getting pregnant, and now the father of her kid, another dumb teenager, isn’t even in the picture anymore. How can she possibly tell people with a straight face that abstinence is the best answer to prevent teenage pregnancy when it has failed completely in her own home?
Ignorance:
- Could not name one single news source that she reads in a national interview.
-Actually tries to argue that the fact that Russia is in a proximate geographical location to Alaska counts as foreign policy experience.
-Wants creationism taught in public schools.
So, it’s not so much that liberals hate her; it’s just that it’s easier for us to see what a complete and utter fraud she is because we’re not completely enthralled and obsessed with her the way you folks are.
It’s kind of like you conservatives have a girlfriend who all your friends are telling you is bad news, but you’re just so enamored with her wink and her accent, and the fact that you finally found a good looking Republican girl, that you’re completely unwilling to take a step back and take a critical look at her and decide if she’s really right for you.
And the fact that all your friends are telling you to dump her just makes you indignantly want to stick with her even more.
There is also another angle to this — Sarah Palin’s views are much more representative of the average conservative in flyover country than even some Republicans would like.
Not really, but they’re certainly representative of a minority of Americans. I live in flyover country, a small town, and Palin is just as controversial here — and for the same reasons — as anywhere else.
Face it, McCain fouled up bigtime. Had he talked Condi Rice into being his running mate, he would have won. Condi is a foreign policy expert, well schooled, well spoken, and accomplished. His campaign picked Palin specifically to attract the social conservatives that his demographers claimed were the GOP base. Instead, he turned away those who were the actual majority. Whoops. FAIL.
The claim that she’s a [fill in the blank; ditz, fanatic, whatever] is tautological. The evidence of the claim is that the media says it’s so. But it’s the media that’s going monkey doo doo trying to slime her.
Thus, there has to be something else going on. I’m sure there is some validity to everything in this article, but I believe that it’s 95% the snobbery thing.
These days, with the way that the donkeys have become obsessed with elite credentials, I seriously doubt that LBJ or Carter (let alone Truman) could be nominated by that party. They’ve become precisely what Agnew said; elite, effete, intellectual snobs. Over this same period, the quality of governance has deteriorated.
Following JFK’s death, we had five presidents from non-ivy backgrounds (and horror of horrors, Reagan was a (gasp!!!) union man), and four in a row with ivy backgrounds. I think the whine and cheese crowd is terrified that this country of bumpkins might once again elect a (gasp!!!) commoner.
Liberals seem to love the idea of universal secondary education. Obama wants everyone to go to college. The public land-grant colleges are essential to this goal. But perish the thought that a prole from one of these government schools actually aspire to lead. That’s only for the special people.
She WAS held to a different standard. That’s the point. We know so much about her family, her values, her hunting. We have extensive quotes from her that aren’t even her own! That’s the point. She was blasted by the press. Just plain blasted. They blasted her, no holds barred.
How about Obama’s family? Just how many half-brothers does he have? He uses his father’s example every chance he gets. What about his father? Is he still alive? How did he live his life? What impressinos did he leave on The One? Did he hunt? Did Obama ever hunt?
The press did a great job vetting Palin, digging up everything. I feel as though I know her very well (and I feel comfortable with her). Yet I still see Obama as a stranger.
Sarah Palin is THE best chance that the GOP has of regaining the White House in 2012, and if she comes to the lower 48 to campaign in 2010, she may even help the GOP recapture the House, and make gains in the Senate as well.
Just over one week ago over 20,000 people turned out in Auburn NY for to see her in a non-political event, a parade honoring Auburn native William Seward. Later, at the Seward House, over 300 people paid $250 to have their picture taken with her, and 200 more shelled out $100 a piece to listen to her speech. The next day Palin received a very warm welcome from 12,000 people taking part in the Autism walk on Long Island. In fact, organizers of the event had to request that she leave early because so few people were actually walking, they were all congragating around her wanting pictures, autographs, and just to see her.
A few days later she announces an agreement between ExxonMobile and TransCanada to start work on the gas pipeline she’s been pushing for. This will be the largest privately funded infrastructure project in American history.
When you consider all these recent things, coupled with her strong stand pro-life stand, and the fact she climbed to the height of power in her state without benefit of a wealthy, influential family or riding her husband’s coattails, the liberals and the weak-kneed republicans have every right to fear and hate her.
BTW, a recent poll found that for the first time in over 15 years the majority of people describe themselves as being pro-life. The last poll regarding this was back in August of 2008, when most people described themselves as pro-abortion. I will not go so far as to say that Gov. Palin is solely responsible for that shift, but I’d give her a big chunk of the credit, since she has become the face of the pro-life movement.
It should also be noted that a few weeks ago two stay at home moms won local elections in AZ. Both women belong to Smart Girl Politics, and organization inspired by Palin’s VP candidacy.
Palin has probably had more impact on American politics and society than anyone else in many years, including 0bama.
Sarah Palin is:
1) Eventual inheritor of the Tea Party Movement of lower federal gov. spending & taxation, less regulation, more liberty.
2) a western libertarian/conservative who happens to be a Christian.
3) a big champion of the 1st, 2nd and 10th Amendments much in the Ron Paul way.
4) very courageous, unlike ANY other GOP national politician.
5) very charismatic. Men will follow her into battle, much like the French soldiers followed St. Joan of Arc against the English.
6) a good person
7) a servant of the people and a representative of “citizen-politicians”.
8) just the type of leader our Founding Fathers envisioned with the exception of her gender.
9) a middle-class American and relates at the retail level better than any other GOP politician.
10) the reason why Mitt Romney will NOT go for POTUS but will go for Senate spot some day.
Wow,
You talk about the Intellectually bankrupt of the liberals.
So a woman running to be second in command of the most powerful country in the world doesn’t get the concept that Africa is a CONTINENT and NOT a Nation, but we’re supposed to feel bad because she’s pretty?
Who cares she doesn’t even know what the 7 Continents in the world are?
Not to mention the fact that she’s been reported throwing CONSTANT temper tantrums while on the campaign trail. Oh and should we even go in to the Katie Couric interviews?
YouTube Palin Interviews and see how STUPID this woman that you all think should be the next puppet leader of the free world really is.
Maurice:
“As a very attractive, feminine, strong, red-blooded American woman, Sarah is more manly than 60% of the men in this country. And I say that with all admiration.”
Well she probably has more muscle tone than fat boy Limbaugh that’s for sure.
You are right. Rich Lawry of National Review made fun of her for her style too. Not just people from the left, but also from those on the right who don’t have that intellectual depth. It is really a sorry state.
Not really, but they’re certainly representative of a minority of Americans. I live in flyover country, a small town, and Palin is just as controversial here — and for the same reasons — as anywhere else.
And what views of hers, exactly, are considered ‘minority’. She is Christian and goes to church. Most people in this country identify as Christian, at least nominally, even within the Democratic party. She is pro-choice, which is hardly a ‘minority’ opinion in the sense that it’s not ‘out there’ and controversial.
Is it her view on same-sex marriage? Her views are in line with the vast majority of people in the nation?
Is it that she does not support unlimited government?
What exacctly are these mystical ‘views’ that are so exceedingly rare? And please, no easily debunked Tina Fey views. Only non-nonsensical replies only.
Or do you mean that the people in your therapy group consider her views extreme?
Face it, McCain fouled up bigtime. Had he talked Condi Rice into being his running mate, he would have won.
Yeah right. Such insightful political commentary.
McCain lost for many reasons. Selecting Palin was NOT a proximate cause. The financial crisis, an unpopular 2nd-term sitting president from his own party, a string of ‘compromised’ positions as is typical of long-time Senators, McCain’s age, and an unenthusiastic GOP base had far more to do with his loss.
Try not to confuse television coverage of Palin with reality. It’s not that televison coverage doesn’t matter, it’s just that, well, it isn’t actually reality.
Don’t forget that some of the dumbest people on campus are broadcast journalists and communications majors — the people who produce those television news shows you seem to be relying upon.
Sheesh- go back to Pundit Kitchen where you belong- ACORN misses you.
Thus, there has to be something else going on. I’m sure there is some validity to everything in this article, but I believe that it’s 95% the snobbery thing.
Actually, it’s 95% that she’s a Republican.
The other 5% is elitism.
The media wouldn’t attack her publicly if she were a Democrat — they would only sneer at her privately.
Greg,
Your hallucinating on LSD!! Just go sit in a corner until you come down.
Rush Limbaugh has a following too, but there are 300 million Americans….do the math. She is the poster child for the shrinking GOP base.
Free Hat:
Every ‘lie’ you mention has already been refuted numerous times, along with EVERY SINGLE other accusation you make.
Fewer people are believing the lies once they take any time to dig up the facts.
An example would be what you state on birth control. If you took any time you’d know that the Governor is for teaching abstinence along with other forms of birth control in education.
Your post simple REINFORCES the fact that you and statists on the left have become unhinged.
You cannot continue to sling lies at Sarah Palin to hide Obama’s woefully inept and socialistic administration.
He can’t keep blaming others. His insecurity truly shows.
We have the same thing in the UK with Margaret Thatcher. Comics on the BBC just can’t stop themselves making snide remarks about her. You would never think she left office in 1990!!!
93. Dumbfounded:
“Wow,
You talk about the Intellectually bankrupt of the liberals.
So a woman running to be second in command of the most powerful country in the world doesn’t get the concept that Africa is a CONTINENT and NOT a Nation, but we’re supposed to feel bad because she’s pretty?”
~
Dumbfounded, you might want to contact your village, they are worried about their missing idiot.
You want pathetically ST00PID? How about the current TOTUS who thought he has visited ’57 states’ with a ‘one to go’. How about our Totus who refuses to release his school records/grades/thesis?
I could go on and on about TARDO-TOTUS but I’d be repeating myself into oblivion and I really can’t afford carpal tunnel right now.
93. Dumbfounded:
Has Obama figured out how many states there are yet?
What about his father? Is he still alive? How did he live his life? What impressinos did he leave on The One? Did he hunt? Did Obama ever hunt?
Obama’s father died long ago in a car accident in Kenya. By that time, he’d become alcoholic and an amputee.
Obama saw him once or twice after he left him in Hawaii at age 2.
Barack Sr. was something of a con man with communist leanings.
Perhaps “dreams from my father” should be retitled, “genes from my father”
(is this too harsh ? adios for the nonce
)
Thank you for making my point. The fact that this, and 100 other libels against Palin are FALSE and thoroughly debunked doesn’t seem to bother the media and liberals in general. You just caricatured yourself. Again, thanks.
She is the poster child for the shrinking GOP base.
More talking points. While certain demographic trends do not favor the GOP, chief of which and by far the most important being immigration from Mexico, the base of the GOP is still fundamentally sound. (The makeup of political parties change over time, and in a two-party democratic republic, you can bet your union pension that the GOP will evolve.)
The number of registered Republicans nationally has been on the uptick, for instance, and is now nearly on par with the number of registered Democrats.
The most recent iteration of a long-running (Pew?) poll shows that 40% of Americans consider themselves conservative or very conservative compared to 20% who consider themselves liberal or very liberal.
Most of the population migration from small towns to large urban centers is complete, so there will be no more Democratic gains in that area.
A greater percentage of people now call themselves pro-choice than ever before.
Fewer people are watching television, and TV is bay far the Democrats’ most useful advantage — in fact I’d go so far as to call them the TV Party.
etc., etc., etc.
Don’t get me wrong: The GOP has real issues, many of them long term. Short term, however, their issues are mostly with leadership and a truly in-the-tank national media (and by extension a leadership willing to play hardball and to gut the national media in myriad creative ways).
As always, don’t confuse television with reality, even though the vast majority or those who vote Democrat do just that ….
Ah, Martin, the GOP base is growing; the Dem base is shrinking. Just wait until the elections next year. I would bet that youu are under 28,that would explain your ignorance.
You are about to learn something about American politics.
It is you that are hallucinating. Typical commie projection.
I look forward to President Palin. Madam Prssident I appologize for what a mess the country will be in.
42. sheesh:
That all seems like work of a Saint compared to what was voted for this past election! Sheesh, turn your concerns to what YOU voted for…it’s a lot worse.
So, explain why she’s headline news at Huffpo and constantly mentioned on MSNBC? Sounds like some folks are scared. Or in love!
#96 — McCain lost for many reasons. Selecting Palin was NOT a proximate cause.
Where I live Palin was controversial in a way that politicians in general are not: lots of opinion letters in the weekly news as well as the daily paper from the closest big city, etc. Certainly more letter traffic than Obama or McCain. Voting records reflect this as well: same turnout as usual percentage wise (so much for the ‘base didn’t show up’ argument) but way different voting pattern than 2000 or 2004.
She is pro-choice, which is hardly a ‘minority’ opinion in the sense that it’s not ‘out there’ and controversial.
Meanwhile over in South Dakota an abortion ban attempt was utterly stomped, yet the traditional basic ‘mostly red’ voting pattern in presidential politics swung their electoral vote for McCain, barely. So much for the social values argument as well. People may POLL as anti-abortion, but the proof is in the voting booth. Polls aren’t votes. Feel free to look at the actual voting data and weep. If you can’t win on abortion in a state like South Dakota, it’s not going to resonate anywhere.
In your binary world such things cannot exist. Here in the real world, they do.
Sarah connects with everyday people, she lives her values. That is something we don’t expect in our politicians. I for one find it very uplifting. I supported her in her bid for VP and will continue to support if she runs again. She is the real deal. I would love to see the Palins in the White House.
Country before Party!!
I liked Sarah Palin but deep down I knew she was not prepared for the second highest office in the country. That said, I did get a BIG laugh during the ’08 campaign when I read countless postings on other politcal sites and heard TV talking heads make a case for how much more qualified and experienced Obama was…..over Gov. Palin!
#110 — So, explain why she’s headline news at Huffpo and constantly mentioned on MSNBC?
Ummm… how about the 24 hr news cycle has to have something to talk about, and humans like the gossipy stuff. People magazine is popular for the same reason. Most people profess not to give a crap whether or not an actress slept with her producer, but it’s still “news” when something more important isn’t happening.
Or… it’s all a leftist plot, and they’re all suffering from derangement syndrome.
Which one sounds reasonable? To you — ‘plot.’
#84, Butterfly mornings…
Those are not sportsmen “hunting” the wolves from aircraft. These are sharpshooters intentionally thinning the wolf population that has grown too large and is threatening the numbers of moose and caribou. When the wolf population is sufficiently trimmed the hunting/management will stop. After all, it is illegal to hunt big game animals from aircraft. It is even illegal for a licensed hunter to hunt on the same day he/she arrives at their hunting destination in Alaska.
#106 — More talking points.
You wish this were true. It’s not. Read:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1904136,00.html
99. Martin in Atlanta:
I love Georgia and all that she stands for. A very Conservative state with a rich history. Every time I go to Atlanta, there are areas that are a big embarrasment to this state. Trash, crime and a sense of hopelessness. Within the same city there are very racist neighborhoods. All wealthy blacks. They have succeeded, either through hard work on their own or with affirmative action. Either way they turn their backs on their own race much like the elite white liberals do to the non elite whites.
See, with Palin, it’s not gender, it’s not race. It’s all about a bunch of people thinking they are better than everyone else because of their status. They look down on her. The poor blacks despise her because she represents white middle class, whom the elite liberals have brainwashed into believing are the ones keeping them down. In reality the elite cannot exist without the poor.
Where I live Palin was controversial in a way that politicians in general are not: lots of opinion letters in the weekly news as well as the daily paper from the closest big city, etc.
No. People wrote letters because of what they saw on TV, and how often they saw it on TV, not because her views were really anything worth getting worked up about. In other words, producers and talking heads in the major media outlets attacked Palin for reasons outlined throughout this thread, the idiot local news broadcasters followed suit, because all they do is watch CNN and read a single daily metro for their information, as is their pattern. The general populace saw what was on TV, and saw it often, so like the dear little lemmings they are they wrote letters to the newspaper. The almost entirely Democratic newspaper editors who populate the editorial board then dutifully printed said letters.
As someone else characterized this sort of thing earlier: That is tautological. Or are you going to tell me that all the ambulance chasing in which the media engages is somehow indicative of the everyday earth-shaking importance of traffic accidents, kidnappings, spousal murders, and fires on the other side of the continent that involve really big explosions?
Voting records reflect this as well: same turnout as usual percentage wise (so much for the ‘base didn’t show up’ argument) but way different voting pattern than 2000 or 2004.
Correlation and causality. You have not tied the selection of Palin as VP with those changes in voting patterns. For all you know, McCain would have done worse if he had not selected Palin. Do you not understand the fundamentals of logic?
Meanwhile over in South Dakota an abortion ban attempt was utterly stomped, yet the traditional basic ‘mostly red’ voting pattern in presidential politics swung their electoral vote for McCain, barely. So much for the social values argument as well.
Then how do you explain more people identifying themselves as pro-life (my earlier post was a typo when I said pro-choice, but you seem to have understood what I meant)? My point wasn’t that everybody wants to ban abortion, my point was only that pro-life isn’t an extreme position, and while still a minority position, hardly enough to characterize Palin’s pro-life stance as ‘extreme’ relative to any other politician, and thereby nothing that justifies the nasty personal attacks on her.
People may POLL as anti-abortion, but the proof is in the voting booth.
Indeed. Just like people may POLL as being against same-sex marriage but … oh wait. Tell me, does your local paper attack any politicians who are for gay marriage, a minority position to be sure, the way they attacked Sarah Palin for being pro-life?
Polls aren’t votes. Feel free to look at the actual voting data and weep.
Thanks for the insight, professor. So tell me, will you agree never to cite Obama’s approval numbers, then? After all, they’re just polls.
If you can’t win on abortion in a state like South Dakota, it’s not going to resonate anywhere.
Understandably, you seem to confuse being pro-life with anti-abortion. One CAN believe in keeping abortion legal for others but carrying one’s own unwanted pregnancy to term.
In your binary world such things cannot exist. Here in the real world, they do.
See my response above, speaking as someone who is pro-choice, anti-Roe, and fully mindful that those who are pro-life have a very solid moral, legal, and intellectually coherent foundation on which to stand.
Now compare my views to someone like you who thinks Palin’s an ogre for being pro-life.
Talk about a binary view of the world.
The article is a fair and correct answer to the question in the title of the article.
Besides she is a “cuda”. People do not like cudas, especially female ones that are intelligent, traditional, attractive and successful to boot.
Being female, intelligent, assertive, traditional, attractive and successful are all the hot bottons.
Mongoose – I’m not sure where you’re getting your facts. The GOP has lost ground in every demographic group except weekly church-goers. Obama won the college-educated white male vote, so the GOP is becoming the “Anti-Intellectual” party, with Sarah Palin leading the way. As for me, I’m 42 with a Masters in Political Science.
What a hilarious thread! I love that Palin is still the go-to candidate for the GOP. What an absolute joke of a person. Loved the Ensign scandal that broke today too. What a bunch of hyprocritical douche bags the GOP is.
BTW, Obama is sucking. I know you desperately want me to be a leftie, but it won’t stick. The Dems are the same slime merchants. The problem is, you all think YOUR politicians have it figured out.
You and Shadow just contradicted each other…he said the left could care less and you say she’s still news…. I’m not into plots, I’m into facts. Unlike the people who voted for Obama. Since the media loves Obama so much, why don’t they expose who he really is? College transcript? His passport that allowed him to travel to a country that was on the no-travel list for American citizens?
How about him walking to the wrong podium the other day with the President of South Korea? And then leaving the wrong way? The South Korean President tried to go to the correct podium and leave the correct way but our president (in love with myself) directed him the wrong way!!!
Palin is popular because she is the embodiment of a quintessential American Icon – the Pioneer Woman. You can picture her driving a covered wagon cradling a baby in one arm and a Winchester in the other.
116. G Alston:
So a link to a liberal website proves you aren’t quoting liberal talking points!!! LOL Now that is funny….I’ll start quoting Rush to back things up!!
Americans are already getting fed up with Obama. Our only hope is that he changes the direction in which he has steered our nation!!
60. Paul in MI:
It’s not something you can just pick up on the job. If she runs in 2012 she’ll lose to Obama, if she runs in 2016 against Biden I’d give her 50/50 odds.
How’s Obama, Biden, & Hillary working out for you in the experience department?
Just a simple thought here–she’s a genuinely happy person. The left despises genuinely happy people. They are miserable and want everyone else to be miserable, too.
The detractors would not be so relentless if they were not worried. Also they can’t bag on the President for his gaffs and even the Vice President who’s statments show that Dan Quale was an absolute genius in comparison.
Ok:
Let’s face it. The media controls the weak minds of America. Like Pavlovian dogs they woof down whatever their celebrity leaders feed them. Feel free to call me a loon but here is how Sarah Palin wins the Presidency.
a) She cuts her hair, and gets laser surgery for her eyes.
b) She takes on and edgy persona ridiculing her opponents in the media.
c) She emphasizes her mom status, comes across as a strong woman who because of her gender has endured bitter sexist attacks. (No more winks to the camera.) But because of her life experience she can make better decisions than a man. (Where have I heard that before?)
d) She has to feel the pain of the country and wants to protect the future for the children.
e) Give Todd a speaking part where he speaks out in support of her campaign and tells great stories about her and the family.
Politics is like football you got to get lower than the opponent across the line and you got to hit them first. Republicans are like blocking dummies, you hit them and they don’t hit back. No one respects a dummy, just ask Bush.
We are down to our last free election. We are not going to win with Romney, Juliani or some wishy-washy white male. McCain was a pathetic candidate who would have lost by double digits if it were not for Palin.
#118 — Now compare my views to someone like you who thinks Palin’s an ogre for being pro-life.
Non sequitur. The point of noting the results of votes vs polls (and conventional wisdom of this place) is that her pro-life stance didn’t resonate as claimed.
How is Sarah Palin going to be the President in 2012 when Republicans polled about the voice of the GOP, gave her less than 1%? Granted, the GOP is wandering in the desert looking for an identity, but Caribou Barbie is not the answer.
You are all completely dillusional.
#124 — So a link to a liberal website proves you aren’t quoting liberal talking points…
The link is to an article by a GOP strategist. Time leans left, certainly, but that’s not a reason to ignore articles from the few GOP columnists they run. Try reading it. You won’t turn liberal, and the shadow won’t get his recruitment goal microwave prize. Trust me.
129. G Alston:
Non sequitur. The point of noting the results of votes vs polls (and conventional wisdom of this place) is that her pro-life stance didn’t resonate as claimed.
Nor would it since was was number 2 on the ticket.
#128 — The media controls the weak minds of America.
Bleat. Bleat.
Unless you’re getting direct info from Palin’s hairdresser’s cousin’s neighbour’s gardener, your information isn’t any better than what hits the weaker minds, is it?
Non sequitur. The point of noting the results of votes vs polls (and conventional wisdom of this place) is that her pro-life stance didn’t resonate as claimed.
Are you reading impaired? I never claimed that her pro-life stance ‘resonated’ in the general populace. I said that while a minority position it cannot be construed as extreme enough to warrant the kinds of continuous attacks that have been leveled at her.
As I said, it is not I who is extreme. Nor is Palin.
The extremists are those like you who think that going to church and being pro-life is extreme.
That is truly a nutty stance. (You’re a baby boomer, aren’t you? There’s something about your responses that is just so backwards-looking and media naive.)
I could just see a President Biden at a State Dinner with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. “Hey Ben try the pork chops they’re great.”
You are the man!!! Toot toot…that’s you on your own horn. A Poli Sci Masters, you must be a professor or work at McDonalds.
They hate Sarah Palin because they can plainly see that she is a kind of female Ronald Reagan. Scares the bejeesus out of them. They sense that they must not let her even see the light of day, because if she does they lose it and lose all of their plans they have been working so hard for since the strategies of Antonio Gramsci and Saul Alinsky have been let lose upon the land.
If they can’t stop her now, they will never stop her.
I never remember the USA being as class conscious as it has become these days. You’d think we all lived in Great Britain. Seriously!
I find it seriously tragic. The hatred of Palin is a clear-cut class issue.
Sarah Palin is very dangerous. At a Palin rally, I noticed that many of the volunteers were young ladies around 25ish. The type you normally don’t see at typical GOP get out the vote functions.
If conservative young women learn to recognize each other and work together then its game over for the left.
The trash that our popular culture and mores have become, the institutional leftism… it can be rolled back if these young women support each other instead of getting picked off one-by-one by cultural pressures.
I know exactly when the libtards began hating Palin….the minute she came out on stage and highlighted the fact that SHE had more inexperience than OBAMA did! I know there were masses of group-thinkers who threw up a little bit in their mouths at that moment from the shock of hearing the obvious and knew they would crucify her at the earliest opportunity.
They are still smarting from being b*tch slapped publicly like that.
136, Now, now, that wasn’t very nice.
I’ve never tooted my academic credentials, and I won’t now, but I will say that they trump his pretty resoundingly. I don’t think these little people have any idea whom they’re talking to. They could stand to be a little less impressed with themselves. As Golda Meir said “you’re not that great”.
Palin is a raw lump of clay that the neocons in DC are waiting to mold. Too bad that they are only slightly smarter than she is. She’s pretty but that’s all. She couldn’t hold Hillary’s jock as far as politics are concerned. And we libs are praying to God everyday that she is the nominee for the GOP in 2012. Talk about a soft target.
The hatred of Palin is a clear-cut class issue.
but but but…Sarah Palin has way more class than her long, long list of dedicated detractors, especially the female ones
(I get your point, but the kind of “class” claimed by today’s so called élites is not anything you’d ever want to aspire to)
I blame the re-emergence of all the race, class, gender, age, religion, ethnic group, blah blah blah debates & distinctions on the very stupid (not to mention class-less) crop of modern liberals.
And Obama didn’t help during the campaign, claiming to be post-racial while attempting to score race points by telling a story about his white grandma and, essentially, throwing her under the bus.
Has anyone thought that, perhaps, she doesn’t want the presidency?
Anyone who has a “Regular Joe/Jane” background and in a seat of power somewhere in this country probably sees the nest of serpents in Washington/NY/Hollywood and have come to the conclusion of “Who needs those vipers?” and “I can change America a different way.”
I will not be surprised a bit if she decides to tell all of her enemies, “Screw you! Ain’t dealing with you anymore!” And I would not blame her if she does.
How many nasty anonymous comments about Sarah Palin have been made by supporters of Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, or one of the other candidates running in 2012? A smear campaign already being organized by any of the potential contenders seems doubtful, but as we all know, the campaign season starts earlier and earlier each cycle and many of these attacks are likely aimed at hurting the probable frontrunner for the nomination.
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I signed up for Team Sarah at the git-go. I have a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on my car (with the McCain part removed). I also have been a Huckabee supporter from way back. I would not be at all surprised at a smear campaign on the part of Romney supporters, but cannot imagine anything more out of character for Governor Huckabee or those of us who support him.
What in the world is there to be scared of in Sarah Palin?! She’s a folksy blockhead. She reminds me of a neighborhood Stepford mom.
No one is scared of her. She’s exactly what people want because she can be easily handed her arse when taken out of the Fox News tupperware environment.
If politics was a musical competition she would be the Jug Band entry.
This was a good and well-articulated piece, but the underlying premise–that Sarah Palin must have acted in a certain way, or projected a certain persona, or lived a certain lifestyle, to deserve all this hatred–is backwards, in my opinion.
The key to understanding hatred lies with the hater, not the person hated. We’ll never come one step closer to understanding “why they hate Sarah Palin” if we focus principally on Sarah Palin. It’s at bottom like anti-semitism, I think. You have to understand Hitler–the Jew is just a scapegoat.
One is free after all not to support Palin. But the sheer volume and viciousness of the hatred that sprung up around her is something that she could not possibly be responsible for.
I have no idea how much Sarah Palin actually knows about how the world works. It would be nice if she found readily available avenues to express herself. I like her and wish her well, but have no idea who she really is, what she really believes, and how effective she’d actually be on the national and international stage.
While I detest the way she’s been treated and despise her most poisonous detractors, we don’t need to pin our hopes on another insufficiently experienced individual with half-formed ideas running the White House.
Rereading my post, I should have put “deserve” in quotes or maybe used another verb, “attracted” for example. It’s quite obvious that the author of this article does NOT think that Sarah Palin “deserves” to be hated. On the contrary.
You may remember that these same people hated Margaret Thatcher in exactly the same way they hate Sarah Palin.
And this piece is correct about the Beltway republicans, who are in some ways worse than the democrats because they cringe and explain themselves away to people who will forever hate them anyway.
Peggy Noonan (and her friends) would never make a Letterman-type comment about Palin; but she would rather fake her own death than bump into her at a Georgetown dinner party.
RE # 28/sheesh: [....] As for Palin [...] religious extremism, trampling of civil rights, abuse of power, and rank hypocrisy. [...]
Translation:
1) religious extremism: sitting serenely in a church and approvingly listening to your pastor yelling “God damn’ America!”
2) trampling on civil rights: having your campaign funded by most mysterious means, not yet explored;
3) abuse of power: Firing General Inspectors, taking AirForce #1 for sightseeing tours over NYC, forcing the Chrysler Dealers in bankrupcy, hiring in the federal government only people with rap sheets longer than three pages;
4) rank hipocrisy: “Hi! My name is Barry Soetoro and as my family confirms it, I was born in Kenya so I can be a US president – oops, sorry, I am Hussein Soetoro, oops, sorry, I am Barrack Obama, oops, sorry, much confusion here, but my Mombassa birth certificate shows that I am an American citizen, oops, I blew it again!
Hi! I am Barry Teleprompter, and my Mombassa madrassa records show that Allah is one, and I was born in Seattle, oops – man, something wrong with this teleprompter!
Hi I am Barry Soetoro and … [a suivre]
I don`t like articles that take 5 paragraphs before getting to the heart of the story.
You can hate Palin for whatever reason you desire but one thing about her is irrefutable:She didn’t launch her political career from the home of a domestic terrorist the likes of Osama bin Laden or Timothy McVeigh like your Dear Leader did. To put this in perspective, imagine standing on the 98th floor of a burning skyscraper and being faced with two options:either burning alive or jumping to your certain death below. And you support a person who palled around with people who did this to your fellow Americans? Wow…
I think you should all get on the Sarah Palin bandwaggon and start contibuting to her 2012 Presidential campaign. This is a beautiful thing to behold
The liberal elites and their ilk have a right to speak their mind.
But lets call a spade a spade….they are destroying the chances of the Republican Party …….to take back power. People want a clear delineation of thought…Democrat light is not just some thrown away term……..lets get real…..lets deal with real issues in a real way……simplistic you say….your goddamn right its simple!!!
Sarah didnt make the Playboy Hate Screw list…is she starting to sag in the wrong places or is she not conservative enough? A lot of people actually think its the latter.
Delia #2.
You exemplify everything your rail against. “Fugly” leftist women, you say. That’s not hypocritical on any level, is it?
What drivel — people have a strong reaction to her because they are offended that someone with such a weak grasp of the issues was put forth as a vice presidential candidate and who has been embraced as a legitimate presidential candidate. Any time she’s asked a follow up question, her response is cringe-worthy and seems like someone caught in class not paying attention. The rest is just fluff.
I started to respond to one of a troll’s post citing the usual Dem meme against Palin but then I scrolled ahead to see if someone had alreaady addressed it. Wow – the chime in Demm flunkie HQs must have rung and a busload of flaming idiots came out to post the same drivel.
Gee – why can’t they assign different insults to each of the trolls? They look stupid repeating the same “$150K of clothing”, “Africa was a country” etc. lines after someone has already debunked them.
Palin is an intellectually vapid moron, and is the main reason I voted for Obama in 2008.
Perhaps the fear is just as simple as being a politician who cannot be bought on important issues.
OMG, how can she be controlled?
“Had she been a man, someone with her limited experience would have never been selected.”
This is a galling statement, Mr. Hawkins. At 45-years of age, she has already amassed a resume to include: city councilwoman, 2-term mayor, 1-term Governor, Chairperson of the Gas & Oil Ethics Board, helped run her own small business…. LIMITED EXPERIENCE?
Romney is a 1-term Governor and a failed Senate candidate… in politics, he has less experience than Sarah, yet no one would have batted an eye if McCain had chosen him.
147,
Bingo. Don’t look to Palin for the answer, look to the media and the pack of trolls for the answer. It’s their phenomenon, not hers.
The only thing Huckabee supporters say against Palin is that she is too young. That’s exactly why she won’t be running in 2016, because she has to wait her turn, and she won’t have the stupidity or the desire to try to outflank the incumbent Republican President. Obama’s a one term President; Huckabee has him beat hands down.
Sarah Palin is like a breath of fresh air. She gives voice to the truth and everyone who has ears to hear knows it. The cockroaches of both parties know that when the truth is spoken people will listen. They hate the truth. They are corrupt. We need to spread the truth just like Mrs. Palin so that the cockroaches (corrupt politicians) will scurry into their hiding places and never return. We need to take back our country and fight with our words, money and feet. “We the people” need to tell corrupt individuals and organizations that we will look into their past and publish it on the web for everyone to see. We are coming after you. Be afraid. Be very afraid!
Why Liberals hate Gov. Palin:
Because they’re liberals. All they have is hate.
I really hope she doesn’t run in 2012, as she is everything the Democrats hope for. As Palin as an opponent, Obama will win with the largest majority in history no matter how much he screws up. I realize the far-right zealots think she has mass appeal, but the truth is that for most Americans she is a joke. Your own advise is that she stays away from the media and doesn’t give interviews; great advice for someone campaigning for President. Are you kidding?
And to imagine the debates. On one hand you have Obama, a man whom whether you like him or not is a skilled polition, smooth as glass, with a vast intellect and education. On the other you have Palin, a woman whom whether you like her or not has no good political instincts, with no real insight into global politics, and who can’t or won’t even answer a simple question. She’ll get her 20% or so of the already converted, but never pick up enough of the middle to even make it competitive.
Romney/Powell is the Republican’s only chance. Of course, a Mormon and a black man just won’t do as far as the base is concerned. Pity.
“Who cares she doesn’t even know what the 7 Continents in the world are?”
She lost me when she couldn’t name all 58 states.
“What is it about Palin that has her detractors so repulsed?”
For one thing she poses for pictures in front of American flags, and that makes America-hating, terrorist-loving, welfare-leech leftists (aka Democrat Party voters) go absolutely berserk.
Wow…great summary. Have you ever read posts from people who hate our Sarah? They repeat the same tired talking points that they were fed by MSNBC. Most of the points that they make have been disproven time and time again, but still they persist. They are sheep, kool aid drinkers, droolers who can’t form a cogent thought on their own, zombies saying over and over “hate Palin, get Palin, must destroy Palin”. Did you ever see any EXTREMISM from her, or hatred or stupidity? She had a botched interview set up by McCain and they use this to “prove” the lie. She is what Obama can never be, a REAL person that loves her country and doesn’t want it to be run into the ground. Go Sarah Go. Do whatever you want. We have your back and you have our support.
If Sarah Palin is SO silly and irrelevant, why the obsession? Clearly the Left noted her appeal, and are out to eliminate the threat- it’s not like it’s not obvious.
And she’s been highly successful in life while ignoring the left-wing feminist model… this helps to explain the extra dose of venom in the attacks. Of course, the Democrats are plenty afraid of Palin coming-back at them in 2012 with a dynamic and complementary VP like Bobby Jindal… or visa versa.
And they surely have reason to fear her- Palin is the most popular governor in the country… are all those people idiots?
Alaska was a pretty corrupt system until she stepped in. Her reforms took on entrenched politicians (inc. Republicans), a mafioso-style union boss, and Big Oil.
Wouldn’t it have been nice if Obama had been principled and brave enough to confront the corrupt Chicago Democratic Machine?
Or shady political operators like Tony Rezko?
Racist preachers?
Instead of doing business with every last one of them?
Go get em, Sarah- and don’t mind the press, nobody will be listening to them anymore after the pending Obamamania implosion- and once the ties of GE and others with media holdings to the Chicago-style Obama administration are fully exposed.
The elites don’t understand frontier culture. Palin will not let attacks go without responding. She is a fighter. That confounds the media.
She has the ability to talk over the media like Reagan did. They don’t like that either.
I ran for fun a Poll with MY Friends , then their friends and others Friends and more played here as well recently .
Over a 1,400 voted …. and the numbers were unreal and I quote them given 6 possible answers as too her as a Women and how real men though of her .
She scored a perfect 10 . Hillary , Obama wife were 4-5.s . Libearl women in the media were minus One .
She is complete women most real men would kill to be with .
She has the rare ability to touch all area’s of life with being a Hunter Gov, Mother with style class and sexy doing them all …..and still stay very much a real smart lady to boot .
I think we are missing a few other points. first, sexy conservative women drive liberals uniquely cazy.
second, sure, she lacked experience, but she had more executive experience than mccain, biden and Obama COMBINED. their attacks reflected the weakness of their own candidate.
Despite the fact that Sarah Palin was the best thing to happen to John McCain’s presidential campaign, the honest truth is that she was an identity politics pick.
Sorry, John. but you’re wrong. This is the person who killed the bridge to Nowhere. This is the person who, when stonewalled on ethics issues, quit her well-paying job so she could go public about the ethical problems she saw. She wasn’t an invigorating stump speaker because she’s female, she was an invigorating stump speaker because she didn’t swallow and then regurgitate all the typical “elite” BS.
McCain picked her because she was a “maverick” like him. Did the “she” help? Probably. But the “she” wasn’t dispositive. Her record was.
Debunked? What’s been debunked? Just because you SAY it’s been debunked doesn’t mean it HAS been debunked.
As for Sam’s poll . . . “She is complete women most real men would kill to be with”
I think you’ve hit on the issue. It’s not that she’s not sexy. She is in a very objective way, though her personality would wilt a tie rod. It’s not that she’s stupid, she isn’t, though she’s not very smart either. It’s that she’s no more qualified to lead or inspire a nation than my next door neighbor who has the same qualities I just mentioned.
For you liberals out there,and you know who you are,Sarah has your number. Go ahead keep shaking,throw the poopoo,she can take it.
Staffers engage in whispering campaigns against her
This reminds me of the way Reagan was treated by Republicans in the early to mid 70′s
And frankly, my (late) mother was a “conservative feminist” back when Democrats were allowed these thoughts.
By the way, I like her fancy pageant walkin’.
Palin helped McCain. I think he would have lost by a larger margin if not for Palin.
The left if afraid of her, period. She is an accomplished woman.
I think she was NOT cared for by the McCain machine and briefed and kept up to speed of what was going on. Infact..did McCain throw the election>???
I don’t believe Suck up Gibson and Loser Katie could take Palin on now that the MaCain people do not have her on a tether. BTW..there was no definitive “bush doctrine”….there are 4 versions that changed several tiems…nothing definitive…
I would love to see her surrounded by the Coulters, Boltons, Keanes of the world for a while…I sincerely believe she will be a great leader…We need someone that is honest with us…pitbulls and lipstick win out everytime!!!
168, or speak Austrian.
It’s not about the liberals or about the conservatives. It’s about the middle. I’m sure all of those who already like her will vote for her, but that’s not going to win any elections. She still will need to pick up a significant amount of votes if she even expects to have a chance. I just don’t see it happening.
The reality is that the so called ‘liberal media, etc’ doesn’t hate her, they love her. As long as she’s in the news, the Republicans don’t stand a chance. Between Palin, Hannity, and Limbaugh, their numbers just get smaller and smaller. Elections are ALL about numbers, not ideology.
The left is now completely flummoxed. They’ve shot their wad in their efforts to intimidate her and she is now stronger than evah. What worked with Jack Ryan in Chicago has missed it’s mark with Sarah. Axelrod is left holding an empty bag. Same goes for the toilet bugs crawling around on this thread.
Palin had more executive experience than any of the other candidates in the election, but that has been completely ignored. If she runs, I’ll vote for her.
John……sry, the Empress is nekkid.
I just don’t get why you guys can’t see it.
She was an identity politics pick, and the old-white-guy-party used the heck out of her, mostly by lashing her to Sick Grandpa’s side as a stage prop, or by using her as a mouthpiece for things McCain was too cunning to say himself, like that palling around with terrorists schitck.
Sho nuff, McCain gets invited to the cool kidz ball at the WH by Obama, but Sarah gets snubbed, even after she tried to reach out to O in her “rebranding roll-out” post election.
Face it……the GOP leadership screwed Palin like a two-dollar whore and now they are frantically trying to scraped her off their shoes before the next election.
This is you.
“Suddenly there was a cry of “Hiya! Hiya!” (“She! She!”), and thereupon the entire crowd of republicans instantly precipitated itself upon the ground, and lay still as though it were individually and collectively stricken [brain]dead…”
But hey, the base has the power….don’t lissen to your scuzbag leadership….give her the nom.

I’m sure shell win.
Palin 2012 FTW!
167. “And to imagine the debates. On one hand you have Obama, a man whom whether you like him or not is a skilled polition, smooth as glass, with a vast intellect and education.” (Nice try pretending to be conservative, only an Obama supporter could write something like this).
Actually, I think Palin could take Obama during debates. She is the only person who is not afraid to call him out on his hypocracy.
I agree that Obama has vast education, but I have seen no real evidence of the intelligence that is hoisted on him. Have you seen him speak without the teleprompter? Totally incoherent disaster. Smooth as glass? Only if you ignore all of the Ums and Ahhs. Did you see his early debates in the primary? Again, disaster.
I think the vitriol and hatred of the MSM and the left sort of blindsided her. The more they trash her the better I like her. They are clearly terrified of her and what she represents. I think she is awesome. She is the polar opposite of the effette metrosexual stuffed shirt know nothing we got stuck with. I know with 100% certainty that she would not be doing her best to destroy America. I would support her in any attempt she makes to seek higher office
Post-modern pubbies waste a lot of breath and bandwidth straining at knats.
She’s a good christian woman. The libertine Left (and right) hates such with a passion.
That’s it. Totally.
Just so we don’t smear all liberal women with one brush, as a lifelong Democrat who campaigned and voted for Hillary, I was disgusted by the “patriarchal” attitude and gross misogyny leveled at her, and the DNC putting their thumb on the scale to tip it in favor of Obama — so disgusted in fact that my husband and I left the party and chose to vote for McCain/Palin. We have never before voted for Republicans. I may not agree with Saraph Palin on certain issues, but I applaud her and would never deride her.
I am not one of the lefty women who do that. I think it is important for you to note that there are disenfranchised Democrats who do not agree with what is happening and are likewise appalled at the identity politics and smears.
I, and many like me were very hurt at being smeared as “low information” and far worse. We do not wish to be painted with one brush, nor do we paint Republicans that way. Elitism doesn’t interest me. Smears don’t interest me. Party doesn’t interest me anymore either.
I am interested in someone who is going to stand up and fight, an honest broker and frankly, I no longer care where that’s coming from. Please don’t assume everyone not on your side of the aisle is bereft of values, morals or common sense.
I hope your there in 2012 Sara! It was you who got my vote for McCain in 08! Otherwise until you joined his ticket I wouldn’t have voted for him on a bet. You share the values of more Americans than you know, thats why he chose you!
I’m a big Sarah Palin fan. I think her speech at the convention established her as a very serious threat to the liberal establishment and their media proxies, and a serious campaign was waged to bring her down. Of course, it’s still ongoing. Sadly, the media proved they are still very powerful, and I fear she may never be a viable candidate. Of course, I dearly hope that she can still do it and will go for it.
I’m very, very disappointed in those conservatives who have attacked her, and I’m not sure I’ll be able to respect their opinion in the future.
The news media must bash Sarah Palin as there is no other republican stepping up. People just cannot understand why she is so popular. They hate it.
Just listen to Sarah talk without a prepared speech and all is clear….pray for America if she ever makes it to the national ticket.
All I can say is that Todd Palin is one lucky man. We would be honored if he was to share her with the nation.
The attacks on her family are repulsive. She has done nothing of the kind to her opponents, either on offense or on defense. Just a class act all the way, which is more than I can say for the Democrat and Republican women who hate her.
I’m actually more pissed off at the Republicans who trash her. I hope they get what’s comin’ to them.
142. Kelvin
“She’s pretty but that’s all. She couldn’t hold Hillary’s jock as far as politics are concerned. And we libs are praying to God everyday that she is the nominee for the GOP in 2012.”
Couple of good points there, K. You are correct, Sarah can’t hold Hillary’s ‘jock’ because she’s a she. Know what I mean? She’s got “the full woman.” Unlike Hillary.
Thanks for finally confirming what was always suspected, that Hillary is some sort of weird creature that is not really human, but can reproduce on its own. Kind of like an amoeba.
(My deepest apologies for insulting amoebas by comparing them to Hillary Clinton.)
And, second point, “libs” don’t believe in god. They believe in themselves. So, when you say you pray to “god,” you are saying “I pray to me, because I’m so special, and I am better than everyone else. Because I’m ME.”
End of story.
Wahh wahh…
You’d like those reasons to be why people hate Palin, but they arn’t. Palin will never get through the GOP primaries for 2012. If she does, she will be crushed so bad by Obama that the conservatives will cry about it for years.
120. Martin in Atlanta:
Who give a shit what you have. We do not care.
Go tell your lib friends about your life.
“She is complete women most real men would kill to be with .
She has the rare ability to touch all area’s of life with being a Hunter Gov, Mother with style class and sexy doing them all …..and still stay very much a real smart lady to boot .”
Exactly. She’s good for ride and promise, then sent on her way. Yea, yea..White House, I’ll help get you there girl.
Teleprompter? Name anyone who doesn’t use one. At least he can speak (unlike the last guy), as well as address complex issues and questions (unlike Palin, who can’t even tell you what she reads). Try as you might, there is no denying that Obama can deliver a great speech, so just give him that and move on. Why not try attacking him on real issues. Hell, he gives you plenty of targets on a daily basis.
Palin couldn’t even take Biden in a debate. “I’m not going to talk about that, I am just going to repeat these phrases my handlers told me to say”. What makes you think she can stand up to Obama?
As far as hyprocracy goes, ever hear of the “bridge to nowhere”?
My main point stands, in that to win she needs to steal votes (a whole lot of them) from Obama by appealing to the middle. So far, all I see is the far-right supporters rally for her. The rest of America think she is a joke. Hell, she doesn’t even believe in evolution. That alone should disqualify her.
The ONLY reason that McCain picked her is to appeal to women voters in a weak effort to steal away Hillary votes. Typical knee-jerk reaction that didn’t work.
It is obvious that her supporters will follow along no matter what, as will hard line partisans. Problem is, no one else is buying it.
Ric Locke already said all this better I think. He’s very smart.
I wouldn’t even have known you’d written this except someone noticed that it was an article about something what Ric had already explained more better.
Only one reason Palin is hated.
1) No one wanted another President with an IQ score less than 99 again…She was disliked because Anmerica did not want another DUM BUSH clone.
#120
Slacker. I’m under 40, have two Master’s in completely different subject areas and had two free ride Ph.D. fellowship offers, all from top-tier universities, as was my undergraduate degree.
And I think Palin is just fine, especially when compared to the crop of bozos ruining the country as we speak. There are probably better people out there, but they aren’t making themselves known, so we make due with what is available.
I’ve never met anyone who does.
My favorite counterpoint to Ric’s piece was this comment:
I did all the italics and stuff faithfully. That was something of a chore really. Time to pop open a dirty socialist Pepsi and Refresh Everything I think. The blog didn’t seem to like this one so I did the asterisk thing. I think this is a really valuable comment so I will be a bit persistent if you don’t mind.
Sarah Palin would make a better president than Obama right now, that much is obvious considering the disaster he has been.
Having said that, if she chooses to run she will be up against tougher competition in the primaries than Obama (in terms of qualifications), so she will need to show she go toe to toe with Romney or whoever else chooses to run (I think she can.).
There is also the issue that when presidents run for re-election it is mostly a referendum on their performance. If the public sees them as even remotely competent they almost always win re-election. I think it is almost certain that Obama will implode at some point, but there is still the question of whether it will happen before or after 2012. So she will have to gauge how vulnerable Obama will be. She might want to consider running in 2016 since that would give her 8 full years as a governor and 2 years to campaign. But again that all depends, basically, on how badly Obama screws up.
To usafirst:
Many people use teleprompters, but Obama is basically the first who can’t put two coherent sentences together without one. The last 5 months have shown that Obama is even less qualified to be president than Sarah Palin, much less John McCain.
Joe Biden lied his way through the debate, that was the only way he saved himself from complete disaster. Sarah Palin more than held her own.
And finally, after Obama has finished wrecking the country Republicans will be able to nominate just about anyone and win the election. I would love to see Sarah Palin debate Obama, she would destroy him.
It was because of Sarah Palin that I registered as a Republican. I’ve either been Independent or Liberatarian prior to changing party affiliation.
Not only that, I volunteered.
What I love about her story is that she took on entrenched powers within her own party and reformed. McCain couldn’t even put his money where his mouth was as a reformer because he dropped the debate with Obama to go to Washington and do the bailout package which he signed that had over 350 Billion in pork.
He had the gall to say that should he be president he would veto it because of the earmarks.
With what is going on in Iran Palin has a golden opportunity. Obama is silent when she should be an advocate for freedom, and be against tyranny.
This may turn out to be a bloodbath and Obama will still have to do business with Ahmadinejad.
Should that happen, I’ve already got Obama’s political epithet.
OBAMADINEJAD
And I intend to volunteer once again for the Alaskan governor.
#202 venividivici – Make DO, not due.
For the Lefties who hope she runs, be careful what you wish for:
She will NOT get destroyed in the primaries, as the base will vote for no one else if she runs;
She would also win the general handily against Obama. She is a counter to his star power, then he has to answer for his failed administration;
Furthermore, in this age of identity politics, the women will vote for her in droves, the way the blacks vote nearly unanimously for Obama.
They did try to abort this new force in politics, but failed. She survived, and grows stronger. She beat Letterman like a child, and came out looking better for it. Even some liberals came around, notably those on The View. After that, the more the Left attack her, the more foolish they will look, and the more resented they will be. It will soon be suicide to attack her. They will only make her truly iconic.
As for qualifications, I’m satisified with her resume. Beyond that, she demonstrates integrity in government, which is THE overriding need these days. If one compares her to Jindal, he loses. He is clearly smarter, and is competent as all get-out, and decent, but he’s dweeb-tastic; a Beta-Male. She is clearly Alpha material.
THIS is why they hate her. She is Alpha. She appeals to us on a primal level. The Left are stupid, but not that stupid. They never have Alphas, so she is a THREAT! Obama could beat her in debate, and he’d still lose, because he would look the weakling he is next to her.
Troll count for this thread:
Sheesh – an embarrassing 6 appearances (a bit too fixated there – ever hear the expression “less is more”)
Midleman – felt the sad need to pipe-up 4 times (nobody listens to you sonny)
Free-hat – just one paltry rant this time (did mammy have you doing too many chores?)
To #201,
If you’re going to criticize someone’s intelligence, try spelling correctly.
The Left has shown its utter girly-man helplessness in this thread.
Trying to be objective here, I agree with Nick G. Sarah Palin could do with laying low for a while, get to know a young up and coming Republican Strategist, do some study and re-package herself.
Her biggest problem is the demographic – are there enough people out there, even;y distributed, who think that she represents them to allow a serious bid to last through a primary campaign and beyond.
If George W Bush can become President then why not Sarah Palin?
although i agree with majority of you here, some are a little too harsh
To AThinkingPerson @ #140:
Honest question. When you wrote “I know exactly when the libtards began hating Palin….the minute she came out on stage and highlighted the fact that SHE had more inexperience than OBAMA did!” is that exactly what you meant, or is the word inexperience a typo?
158. Mike wrote:
people have a strong reaction to her because they are offended that someone with such a weak grasp of the issues was put forth as a vice presidential candidate and who has been embraced as a legitimate presidential candidate.
Peter writes: Didn’t seem to bother the libtards when someone with even LESS of a grasp on the issues, reality, foreign policy, etc, was nominated to be THEIR presidential candidate!
And Governor Palin wasn’t even running for POTUS! She was number 2 on the ticket!
160. ObamaRepublican wrote:
Palin is an intellectually vapid moron, and is the main reason I voted for Obama in 2008.
Peter asks: Yeah, how’s that working out for you now?
208. Marc Malone:
#202 venividivici – Make DO, not due.
Not only do I agree with your spelling correction, I agree with many of the other points in your post, especially this:
As for qualifications, I’m satisified with her resume. Beyond that, she demonstrates integrity in government, which is THE overriding need these days. If one compares her to Jindal, he loses. He is clearly smarter, and is competent as all get-out, and decent, but he’s dweeb-tastic; a Beta-Male. She is clearly Alpha material.
THIS is why they hate her. She is Alpha. She appeals to us on a primal level. The Left are stupid, but not that stupid. They never have Alphas, so she is a THREAT! Obama could beat her in debate, and he’d still lose, because he would look the weakling he is next to her.
Funny how the Left constantly references Darwin as part of their rhetoric against the supernatural, yet cannot recognize something so clearly “Darwinian” as Palin’s ability to appeal to a broad swathe of people on an instinctual level.
Plus, anyone who thinks there will be any Obama administration successes to defend and taut in the general election of 2012 (aside from him “creating or saving” 75 million bajillion jobs, of course) clearly needs to put down the crack pipe. All Palin needs to do is repeat Reagan’s “are you better off than you were four years ago?” and she should be in. As a matter of fact, I’d phrase the question “Aren’t you way worse off than Barack Obama promised you you’d be four years ago?”
176. sheesh wrote:
Debunked? What’s been debunked? Just because you SAY it’s been debunked doesn’t mean it HAS been debunked.
Peter points out: More proof that Sheeshy is technologically impared, because all you have to do is go to a search engine and look it all up.
You are either too stupid to do so, or you choose not to because it would collapse your nice little fantasy world view. Either way, just because you won’t read the words doesn’t mean the proof isn’t out there.
189. Ani wrote:
I am interested in someone who is going to stand up and fight, an honest broker and frankly, I no longer care where that’s coming from. Please don’t assume everyone not on your side of the aisle is bereft of values, morals or common sense.
Peter writes: Well said! Thank you very much.
193. Edward A wrote:
Just listen to Sarah talk without a prepared speech and all is clear….
Peter asks: Hey, Ed, you ever hear Obama speak, even when he HAS a prepared speech, if the teleprompter isn’t working? Makes Gomer Pyle sound eloquent.
On the other hand, Governor Palin’s teleprompter DID break downing during her speech at the RNC last year, and she continued to give a very good speech FROM MEMORY without any gaffes or stumbles.
Let’s see The Won or Biden do ANYTHING similar!
199. usafirst wrote:
“I’m not going to talk about that, I am just going to repeat these phrases my handlers told me to say”
Peter writes: Quoting Biden, are we? Because as we all can see, even from just this past week, that when Biden does speak beyond what his handlers told him to say, he either makes gaffes a-plenty or starts giving away national security secrets.
“We guessed wrong!”
“There’s a top secret bunker in my house!”
“That Obama. He’s clean.”
201. whataloadofcrap wrote:
1) No one wanted another President with an IQ score less than 99 again…She was disliked because Anmerica did not want another DUM BUSH clone.
Peter asks: Then why did they vote for Obama? See what you got? Wiretaps: Obama says we need ‘em. Tribunals: Obama says we need ‘em. Gitmo: Obama says we must close it, but doesn’t know how, where to put the prisoners, or how to pay for it.
Actually, on second thought, Obama is WORSE than Bush. At least Bush kept the country safe for 7 1/2 years.
199. usafirst wrote:
Teleprompter? Name anyone who doesn’t use one.
Peter writes: Now name me anyone who is more dependant on a teleprompter than The Won? I can’t think of a single instance where he didn’t have a teleprompter and his ‘speech’ didn’t sound like “Uh… um… uh… uh… um… Where was I? Um… Uh…”
46. Class Clown:
“Wow, this sure isn’t as snappy as “I can see Russia from my house”, is it?
THAT quote is from Tina Fey.”
I can’t tell them apart.
53. mariecurie:
“I adore Palin. I want to BE Palin.
But, Palin needs to stay away from the media. Avoid them like the plague.”
She would hate you for that. She will keep comedians and newscasters in business for a long time.
57. James:
“Vivo (#27): You actually listed some of the main reasons why I love Sarah! Good job, buddy! I never will pretend that I can predict the future, but I feel comfortable saying this: if Obama keeps on going the way he is, Sarah is going to annihilate him in 2012.”
I know why some people like her. Stay comfortable, She will lead the paranoic right fringe, but real Repubs will ditch her. She’s too fragile for politics.
I’d like to see what she’s going to do when the governorship is over: run for the US Senate?
If George W Bush can become President then why not Sarah Palin?
Because Dubya was guaranteed to deliver Texas, and Palin is only guaranteed to deliver Alaska. Also, the demographics will be different in 2012 than they were in 2000. Lest ye forget, Dubya did not win the majority of votes in 2000, and even a few thousands of votes will matter. (And that’s to say nothing of how many tens of thousands of fraudulent votes will be cast when Obama’s ACORN thugs, DoJ ‘investigations’, illegal campaign contributions, AmeriCorps youth brigades ‘ensuring’ ‘safe’ elections, and other attempts at intimidation such as phone calls to ‘enemies’ on lists compiled from OpenSource.org (a-la No on 8 tactics from CA). And lest yet forget, the White House controls the census now, and amnesty is highly likely.)
I agree with you that Palin needs to lay low and to hone her skills and study issues like the dickens. She has good instincts, and really shines when she is comfortable with an issue, but the perception of her by the average TV-watching hair-twirler and ball-scratcher is that she’s not very bright and ‘extreme’ (although the twirlers & scratchers couldn’t tell you why exactly). There is only one way to counter that, and that is to remain slightly off the radar and then to reappear with a near complete mastery of the issues that matter.
The Left’s attempts to destroy her can be made to slingshot on them. Now that they’ve made her so prominent and called her stupid, if she reappears with a mastery of the issues then her media-manufactured prominence can work to her advantage. A lot of moderate women really will get pissed off if a competent female is attacked AGAIN through successive primaries and campaigns, especially if the public can be made to realize that ABC-NBC-CBS-etc are nothing but Democrat organs, and every bit as debased and corrupt as the Democrat party and the Obama administration itself.
Of course, it would take a real savvy media team, a NEW media team (not one comprised of failed GOP insider retreads), on Palin’s part to navigate through those waters. That is a high hurdle to cross.
In the end, I don’t think she can win a national election. She might win the GOP primary — barely — but I just don’t think she’ll beat Obama in 2012, no matter how badly Obama performs. Obama will be vulnerable; 53% is the most votes he’ll ever get, but a different kind of candidate I think will be required to overcome the media-government axis. And as I said, the corruption is deep and permanent. Someone had better be willing to play mean, nasty, hardball politics, because that is the kind of politician Obama is.
… Palin’s part to navigate through those waters. That is a high hurdle to cross.
Heh. Guess I won’t be publishing the Great American Novel anytime soon with THAT dreadful mixing of metaphors!
Carry on.
219. Peter the Bubblehead:. . . “On the other hand, Governor Palin’s teleprompter DID break downing during her speech at the RNC last year, and she continued to give a very good speech FROM MEMORY without any gaffes or stumbles.”
This is a classic example of right wing dissembling and manipulation. Palin’s teleprompter “glitched” at the convention, but only while she was waving at the crowd after being introduced. It was fully functioning by the time she began her speech and continued to function flawlessly throughout the speech. But conservatives don’t care about the truth, they only care about what they can make people believe. And it looks like it works on you. It”s called the Fox News doctrine.
217. Peter the Bubblehead: . . .”More proof that Sheeshy is technologically impared, because all you have to do is go to a search engine and look it all up.”
You can’t debunk it. I know. And I’m sure you’re embarrassed and shamed deep down inside. Just another example of conservative cowardice and double standards. I’m sure you’re familiar with the PJM refrain, “Post your sources!” (Just ask “jerry of the real state of virginia.”) Well, you can’t demand it of others and ignore it of when it comes to your own limp-wristed whining.
Here’s your chance to redeem yourself. Here are three “debunked” claims to choose from. Pick one and debunk it:
Belonging to a church with a pastor who spends his time hunting witch doctors in Africa . . . I said “thanks but no thanks” on that bridge to nowhere that she supported . . . She hired a lobbyist to secure more earmark money for Wasilla .
Have at it. Dazzle us with your political acumen.
No, the pastor from Kenya was a visitor, and considering all the crap that’s been thrown at her in the last year, that injunction against ill will didn’t hurt. Two, if you actually followed the Gubernatorial debates would have seen how she showed concern for the cost of the
Gravina bridge. It’s basically irrelevant to debate you, She’s been right on energy, the TC/Exxon pipeline dea, missile defense, the North Korean threat, the auto bailout, the very
structure of the stimulus, the life issue. to use just a few examples
226. sheesh wrote:
Palin’s teleprompter “glitched” at the convention, but only while she was waving at the crowd after being introduced. It was fully functioning by the time she began her speech and continued to function flawlessly throughout the speech.
Peter writes: According to who? The left-leaning Dinosaur media?
According to the stories I read, the teleprompter broke down and was unrecoverable during th MIDDLE of her speech, which she continued to recite FROM MEMORY.
Let’s see The Won even ATTEMPT to do that!
Here you go Sheesh, with just 4 simple words in a search engine.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html
Read it and weep.
Now, shall we do the same for The Won?
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_obama.html
I would vote for Palin in 2012. She’s great.
I think alot of her problem, and Bush had the same problem, is simply inarticulateness, which too many people wrongly misinterpret as lack of intelligence.
Notwithstanding that, I would love to see Sarah run in 2012. She is regular people. She has worked her way up through the political ranks by serving and getting things done. She has worked her whole career to clean up corruption. And I definitely trust her thinking on moral issues more because she is a Bible-believing Christian. Run, Sarah, run!
Here’s even MORE for you, using just the same four words:
http://www.faithandfacts.com/2008/09/16/sarah-palin-rumors-debunked/
Please don’t assume everyone not on your side of the aisle is bereft of values, morals or common sense.
Won’t do that Ani (#189) Rock on
Maybe you’ll find something of appeal in these observations…
Glenn Beck: The Letter
Bush takes swipes at Obama policies
For those of you saying Sarah Palin doesn’t have the right stuff for national office, it’s really hard to imagine anything dumber & more ruinous than the stuff Barry has rammed through in his first six months, mostly done (as the healthcare thing is being done now) with a sense of panic and tomorrow is too late. (recall Nancy Pelosi, who basically wrote the porkulus that nobody read, saying “hurry up, boys” and get the vote done. Ole Nancy had to catch a plane to Rome where, hopefully, the Pope ripped her a new one on her blabbering anti-Catholic (she is one, technically, as is Biden) hypocrisy on Saint Augustine/abortion.)
It’s hard to imagine anything more mind blowing than Joe Biden’s recent statement about the value of the Porkulus, or lack thereof…We guessed wrong.
I mean my pet goat would be more impressive on most of the stuff being regurgitated out of DC.
And let me say, I listened to not very bright Katic C. interview Palin closely and did not see any real gotchas. Something about magazines Sarah read and then Katie kept pushing on one question about teenage pregnancy (her producers had cued her, it would seem, to keep pushing one point) and Sarah Palin very adequately kept answering with a position that simply didn’t suit Couric’s very limited worldview. Katie Couric is embarrassing and the network’s continued ratings decline reflects that.
Palin fought with her on party over ethics issue.
Obama- sacks two Inspector Generals and gags one.
I am a little shocked that there is so much hate going on in the political scene. I wish we could all just chill out and enjoy each other as equals. It appears the hate is even seeping in towards President Obama. I was watching this news clip about how hatred is now being sent through e-mail:
http://www.newsy.com/videos/e_hatred
It really just makes me sad..
pretty sure we don’t like her because she’s a whore.
#32 says he’d rather know the credit score than the iq of any candidate.. amen to that.. Obama and Michelle were underwater on their mortgage in Chicago even though SOMEONE ELSE BOUGHT THE HOUSE FOR THEM, because they refinanced it twice and blew through the money.. Obama went to the 2000 convention, couldn’t get home because his credit card was maxed out and he couldn’t afford a ticket. He had to bum the money from somebody else.
Obama is a LOUSY risk, credit wise.. cannot manage his own affairs.. I’d bet my LIFE that Palin’s credit score from five years ago is far superior to Obama’s.
…mortgage in Chicago even though SOMEONE ELSE BOUGHT THE HOUSE FOR THEM, because they refinanced it twice and blew through the money..
What the Obamas got, as I understand it, was a very favorable interest rate from a Chicago bank (you and I would have gotten a higher rate) plus the “fixer” wheeler dealer and criminal still awaiting sentencing, Tony Rezko & his wife bought the vacant property adjacent to the Obamas’ house and sold a portion of that land to the Obamas as physical buffer for their own property.
Hanging with Ayers, Reverend GodDamn America, the fixer and other sterling denizens of Chi-town.
I see that all of you right wingers are just SO upset that Obama is “ruining the country”. “Are you happy now?”"How’s he working out for you?” etc. Actually, I think he is doing a great job. I love the fact that he actually WORKS for his check, all Bush did was clear brush at his ranch. Fact is, way more Americans agree with me than you guys. Deal with it.
It’s not that I don’t understand where you are coming from. Over the last 8 years, I saw Bush screw up time and time again, only to have you guys saying what a great job he was doing. I was the one talking about how he is “ruining the country”, etc.
Of course, turns out I was right. Your side still thinks there are WMDs in Iraq. The more you guys get angry at Obama, the more I think he’s on the right track.
As for Palin, I noticed none of you commented on her denial of evolution. Don’t you think that clearly shows a lack of intelligence on her part? Do you really want some religious nut with a basic lack of understanding of simple scientific principles running our country? Science and technology is what made our country great, not superstition and ignorance.
#238 straightman – Was that sarcasm? Because, that was a hell of a thing to say!
#227 sheesh – Let me address the earmarks for Wasilla. She was Mayor. It was her job to do what was needed for her town. Get this, not all earmarks and “pork” are bad. It’s how the money is spent. AK gets the money for infrastructure. It’s a frontier. They have lots more land than people.
When the federal government allocates money for roads and such in rural America, it is providing for future population growth and resource development. This is responsible government; preparing for the future. Infrastructure spending is to “promote the general welfare”.
So, what Sarah Palin did as Mayor was use the money to expand the environs of the town (roads and sewage lines). This creates wealth, as it builds up the value of the real estate. The town grew rapidly thereafter. As Governor, she redirected the “Bridge” funds to other road projects within her State, as allowed by law. More wealth creation.
The important thing is that she didn’t use the money to enrich cronies for fake projects like U.S. Congressmen amd Senators do. How can you have a problem with that? She has simply been a very effective executive and is someone we can trust with our money and government.
Note that, having been so effective, she cannot be as stupid as the media made her out to be. It was a hatchet job.
Agree with this very much. Sarah will be the first woman president. She is walking the coals bare footed now, but she is a quick learner.
And yes, it is absolutely true that the libs are telling her if she runs, then no one in her family will be immune to their false attacks.
Oh, I remember now…the rules are different for conservative women. The first amendment doesn’t apply to them.
Go Sarah 2012! Suck it up, Libs!!!
As for Palin, I noticed none of you commented on her denial of evolution. Don’t you think that clearly shows a lack of intelligence on her part?
Palin said she favored teaching both “creationism” and “evolution” in public schools. When running for governor of Alaska, she said that she would not push to add the teaching of creationism in Alaska schools, and she has not.
Where you get these twisted interpretation, god (or someone
only knows.
Lack of self confidence seems to be the key to me. Palin and McCain actually didn’t demonstrate this in their campaign (to me). Palin just doesn’t seem to exude confidence when she speaks and that will have to change if she’s going to run again at any time. When I see Romney speak, rather I like him or not, I see a confident person. It’s not just what you say but how you say it. We might all “say” we would be happy with a “down to earth” person but when it comes time to choosing the leader to run the country I think “confidence” trumps “down to earth” every time.
No twisted interpretation. She didn’t push it because it is illegal. The fact that she even favored the option means she either a)believes it, or b)is pandering to get votes from the ignorant. You decide which one is worse.
I can see no logic will convince you, as you are clearly in Palin’s camp no matter what idiotic thing she may say or do next. As for me, I’ve seen enough to know she will never be president, nor should she. But in the end, it’s up to the MAJORITY of Americans. To them, she is a baffoon. It will be a hard sell to change her reputation now.
It’s not the ‘media’s’ fault. It was no hatchet job. It was just her inability to answer even the most rudimentary questions that earned her her rep. Now she wants to play the victim. Might get her sympathy, but no one wants a ‘victim’ for a president. Poorly played, as usual.
She has no chance. You might as well nominate ‘Mister Rogers’ Jindal or Darth Cheney if your side wants to continue to be a national joke. I’m sure the Democrats will love it either way.
usa, I’m not in Palin’s camp or anyone’s camp.
I appreciate what I know of her ability to fiscally run a state, and, before that, a city.
As for any of her religious beliefs, it seems that she understands the principle of separation of church & state (implicit, but not stated in the US Constitution) quite well, given that she’s not made any attempt as governor to mess with public school curriculum.
Many of you guys, usa, seem to assume that because you climb into someone’s camp (and never let go, even if he/she/it does or says outrageous things, which you rationalize) that everyone else functions that way, too.
As for the question of religion & public officials, personally I’m just a little freaked at bHo’s obeisance to Islam (or, as he likes to pretentiously pronounce it, Izz-LAM) evidenced by his public remarks in Cairo. Who cares who the man’s daddies were & what they did or didn’t believe or how freaking sympathetic he is to Izz-LAM as a function of growing up in Indonesia ?
First rate panderer, he is. And, since you have some perception of Sarah Palin’s intelligence, or lack thereof, I guess you might still think that bHo is intelligent, even in face of some his monstrous gaffes. (some o’trons seem overly impressed with the harvard thing. bHo got crappy grades at Columbia, BTW, which is why college transcripts have never been released)
One reason and one reason only Governor Sarah Palin is hated by liberals, Democrats and certain Republicans – The Womb. Governor Palin is Pro-Life in words and deeds.
Republicans are not likely to nominate Palin in 2012, but if she gets the nod, it would be more as a sacrificial lamb to gender politics than a serious contender. The GOP has the desperate need to attract women, and since 2012 is not likely to be a good year for Republican presidential prospects, there is nothing to lose by giving Sarah the free shot (except for what little credibility the GOP retains with voters).
After Palin’s predictable loss, women can expect a drought in female GOP nominations for some time.
Peace.
DS
You have good insights and I am glad to see it put into words on paper/the web rather than myself and others verbally telling the real story as to why she is the target.
Sarah Palin also supports America being energy independent and drilling in a highly highly circumscribed area of ANWR (among other places) to effect that.
(we’re not converting to “no oil” anytime soon, switch grass, corn, sugar cane, ethanol, wind farms, hydrogen, nothing approaches the energy capacity of a barrel of oil refined into gasoline)
Note how the rabid debate going on this time last year (when gasoline prices were approaching $5/gallon in some places) died down when oil plummeted. Currently, crude is still down, while prices at the pump are inching (blasting ?) steadily upward.
Like Sarah Palin, I support the notion of energy independence, since being over a barrel to some of the idiots whose sandy countries float on seas of oil is not a strong position, politically or financially.
(I would seem the peace guy’s brain can’t get past tedious Leftoid notions like “gender politics”)
Can’t wait to see you whiners that love Obama in the bread line…
We have seen/heard Palin speak “unscripted”…that lady has got “it” goin’ on. She’s very into our country, wants it to succeed.
We sincerely believe Obama is a “puppet king”…someone else is pulling his strings, I hate to think of who that might be…China, Russia..?? Not the general public that’s for sure
Obama needs to grow up and take on the mantel of manhood.
Palin is a dynamic woman. Many many many moral American women are standing with her.
I’m kind of surprised that in 250 comments, no one has really offered the simplest answer to, “why do they hate Sarah Palin?”
Because they’re a$$holes.
I’m just going to start by believing this about these kinds of people whenever these questions are raised. That way, when they seem determined to prove it to me (as they continually have in the past), I can tell them that there’s no need: I already understand. Should save a lot of time.
#246 usafirst – So we’re clear, if one believes in creation and not in evolution, one is “ignorant”? If it “comes up in discussion”, as she put it, it should not be discussed? The subject is verboten? It is “illegal”? Since when is teaching/discussing opposing points of view illegal? Is the THEORY of evolution so fragile that it cannot withstand any challenge or scrutiny?
242. Marc Malone: . . .
OK, so Palin’s pork is good (and i do believe it would be) but Democrats’ pork is bad. I get it. But why does she need pork at all, given Alaska’s massive oil-soaked budget surpluses?
Simple.
It is the same reason THEY hate Cheney.
THEY are scared witless of someone who is as effective as these people are.
E F F E C T I V E
If you have no arguement, demonize.
Then you don’t have to reason, you are permitted to just hate.
One catch
Hate destroys, the left is in the process of destroying itself.
It will make a good read.
Rich
@251. tanstaafl:
“Sarah Palin also supports America being energy independent and drilling in a highly highly circumscribed area of ANWR (among other places) to effect that.”
This is just more evidence of Palin’s (and your) inability to understand math. ANWR total reserves’ impact on the global oil market would be negligible at most. The energy density of oil is not the problem, and drilling in ANWR solves nothing.
Energy independence means developing alternatives to oil, or radical efficiency improvements. There is no way to square the circle at our current consumption levels – we simply don’t have enough oil that is recoverable.
I seem to recall that before we invaded Iraq, a barrel of oil was around $35, and gas prices were well under $2/gallon. The impact on pump prices of drilling in ANWR would be zero. Continued investment in oil development is a poor solution, because it only delays action needed to move forward.
Peace.
DS
You left out the most significant factor in the smear of Sarah Palin. The MSM Media is secularist to the core; they hate evangelical Christianity. Don’t you remember that the first efforts to smear her went directly to her church in Alaska? They re-broadcasted boring old charismatic christian activity, trying to make her look like an evangelical hay-seed. They also hate orthodox catholics….but note they don’t mind liberal Christians, showing favourably Desmond Tutu, Nelson Mandela, or gay Christians….so you see, its hate is directed towards anyone who believes the Bible, the Sacraments, or the Commandments of God. In short, they hate God. Sarah shouldn’t take it personally; the MSM hate Christ.
229. Peter the Bubblehead: . . . on Palin’s teleprompter glitch being a myth . . . “Peter writes: According to who? The left-leaning Dinosaur media? . . . from the stories I read, the teleprompter broke down and was unrecoverable during th MIDDLE of her speech, which she continued to recite FROM MEMORY. Let’s see The Won even ATTEMPT to do that!”
“Because of the positioning of the PJTV booth, I had a clear view of the teleprompter as well, and it never conked out.” – Ed Driscoll, PJTV
Oopsie!
As to your other “sources” . . . sites that proclaim, “Nuh-uh!” aren’t credible sources. In any case, nothing you offer addresses thee three things I challenged you to debunk . . .
Belonging to a church with a pastor who spends his time hunting witch doctors in Africa . . .
I said “thanks but no thanks” on that bridge to nowhere that she supported . . .
She hired a lobbyist to secure more earmark money for Wasilla .
You’re either up to it or you’re not . . . i think we know which, doctor.
@258. sean craig:
“You left out the most significant factor in the smear of Sarah Palin. The MSM Media is secularist to the core; they hate evangelical Christianity.”
I don’t think you will have a lot of luck proving this. Nobody I know hates evangelical Christianity – but most of the people I know would prefer that our government not be run by religious zealots. Evangelism is the problem more than the Christianity – I respect your choice to pursue your religious beliefs so long as they are not imposed on me.
I think people miss the point of Christianity when they claim ownership of God and the right to judge their fellow men. Christ’s message of love and understanding bears no resemblance to the typical conservative church rhetoric.
“In short, they hate God. Sarah shouldn’t take it personally; the MSM hate Christ.”
I think the problem is that there are many ways to express love and admiration for Christ, but that evangelical religion, by its very nature, steps on people’s toes. I don’t mind if you want to share some good news, but when the bible-thumpers start preaching fire and brimstone, or spreading their unique brands of intolerance, the connection to Christ is lost.
It is very far fetched to say that the MSM hate God, or hate Christ. I think what people really hate is someone telling them how to worship – that’s simply un-American. Palin’s portrayal has very little if anything to do with her religion – it is her ‘intelligence’ that truly worries folks.
Peace.
DS
I support energy independence, peace guy, whatever that takes. Neither you nor the US geologic survey knows, accurately, the potential output of ANWR, but the kind of circumscribed drilling I favor would not be limited to that site.
You might know (or you might not)that drilling technology has improved vastly and is less destructive/land invasive than in the past.
You allude (without evidence) that the meteoric rise in price per barrel is tied to the invasion of Iraq. OPEC is pretty much having it’s way with oil prices these days and has been for a long time. Saudi Arabia’s Abdul recently said he’ll be satisfied (haha) when it settles around $100/barrel.
Thus far, Obama’s primary energy venture seems to revolve around some kind of sweetheart deal with General Electric, where that company would profit from its incestuous support from One’s government. In fact, everything One does (firing the IG’s ?) seems incestuous.
(Gibbs reiterated it yesterday, “we won”. Translation: we do any damned thing we want, no matter how stupid)
We depend on oil for countless products, not simply gasoline to fuel vehicles. I suggest, in the interests of conservation, you stop driving a car, stop using your PC and stop shampooing your hair.
And your President can stop taking multimillion $ trips (3 big overseas trips in a short 5 months, more in the pipeline) and wasting millions of gallons of jet fuel.
These simple gestures alone would go a long way to saving the planet.
#254 Mark Malone:
If you need clarification:
Evolution = science
Creationism = religion
The theory of Evolution is not ‘fragile’, as there are no competing theories. It is pretty much accepted as fact in the scientific community. NOTE: ‘scientific community’ = scientists
Creationism is religion. It cannot be tested, proven, etc. It is NOT based upon logic nor evidence, but based upon faith. It is NOT science, therefore NOT to be taught as science.
It is ILLEGAL to teach religion in a public school. The reason: which religion would be taught? Even in Christianity the opinions vary from person to person and denomination to denomination. As long as its YOUR beliefs you whouldn’t have a problem with it, but it very well might not be. So to be fair to all and ensure that everyone has their rights to religious beliefs, none are taught. Especially in science class, where it doesn’t belong anyhow.
This country was set up as a secular country DELIBERATELY. It was no accident of ommision. Religious intolerance in Europe is why many of our ancestors came to America in the first place, so our fore-fathers were well aware of the dangers of a state-sponsored religion. When people argue that we are a ‘Christian’ nation, they don’t know what they are talking about.
Every conservative woman I know is fanatically pleased with Sarah Palin. Why? Because we can see ourselves sitting around in the kitchen drinking coffee and complaining about our men with her. Because she is real, and has gone through many of the same life experiences we have. Simply because she really, really understands us in a way the elites on either side of the aisle never, ever could. She is raising her daughters in public now, making the same decisions she would have made when she was the obscure mayor of Wasilla and not bowing to public scrutiny. How can we not respect that? Sarah Palin is the woman we all want to be.
Thank you. An unwillingness to actually discuss theories (and hide behind “consensus”) is a sign that:
1) You don’t have enough confidence in your view to actually defend it, or
2) You’re of such a totalitarian mindset that you don’t think anything should be discussed.
This, btw, coming from someone who doesn’t doubt evolution, but is not supportive of this “debate is over” attempt to control thought and discussion.
The left has become the new Church, and heretics must be silenced, rather than debated.
I’m sorry. She just doesn’t have it. What is IT? It’s the ability to galvanize a majority of americans around a strong conservative message. It will take someone with more credibility. Someone that has the backbone wouldn’t have accepted the VP position on a McCain ticket.
I find the whole idea of we individual humans declaring definitively the nature & process of the origin of “life” (and fighting over our conflicting theories) rather presumptuous.
(But, gratified, at least that Catholic schools are including the teaching of evolution in their curriculum. It only took the church some 400 years to formally apologize to Galileo, unfortunately, that apology didn’t do Galileo much good.)
Anyway, placing all of evolution into one year, we of the potentially large cerebrums appeared one second before midnight on December 31.
It seems to me we’ve got a long way to go on thoroughly understanding the question of the origins of “life” or anything else under the sun.
Technically, we may not even get there, our cerebrums simply might not be large enough to grok it, the all & everything
For the record, I’m pretty sure the brains of liberal democrats…
Are a little too crowded already to let in any light
@266. tanstaafl:
“I find the whole idea of we individual humans declaring definitively the nature & process of the origin of “life” (and fighting over our conflicting theories) rather presumptuous.”
Coming to a better understanding of the natural world is the basic mission of science. There is no definitive declaration on the nature or origin of life – just the gradual accumulation of evidence and continual refinement of our understanding of nature and her processes. As you have noted, religious authorities have a poor track record in this area, not being inclined to scientific thinking.
“It seems to me we’ve got a long way to go on thoroughly understanding the question of the origins of “life” or anything else under the sun.”
Indeed we do have a long way to go, but we can’t get there without a vigorous debate – and ultimately, the evolution of our understanding, which is our species biggest evolutionary advantage, depends on us disputing conflicting theories.
“Technically, we may not even get there, our cerebrums simply might not be large enough to grok it, the all & everything”
It is very unlikely we can ever get there if we can’t distinguish a fairy tale from a well-supported scientific hypothesis.
“For the record, I’m pretty sure the brains of liberal democrats…
Are a little too crowded already to let in any light”
I appreciate your humorous link, and point you to a more scholarly perspective on the topic…
political orientation is related to differences in how the brain processes information
Food for thought, if you’re into such things.
Peace.
DS
I think I get the gist of what’s being said here:
a. Liberals make exclusively ridiculous assertions, and are biologically incapable of anything other than traitorous, disgusting notions.
b. It is okay to judge half of the country by comparing them to a reactionary, lunatic fringe.
c. Eliminationist governance is okay if you’re very, very sure that you are right. When the other team does it, it is always unimaginably foul.
d. There is something inherently laughable about wine, cheese, and (probably) organic vegetables; and it is wholly appropriate to assume that anyone who won’t eat chuck roast should probably not date your daughter.
e. Centuries of European classic university education traditions are mostly just foppish fluff and useless nuance.
f. Sarah Palin has made enough public policy and foreign policy speeches to judge her knowledge of the topics.
I have a lot of respect for conservative theory and thinking — but most of these coments don’t really cut the mustard as serious thought. The problem most liberals (the actual real people, not the cariacatures that are so easy to lampoon) have with Sarah Palin is certainly not that she is too wholesome or too American or too awesome.
I disliked her statements about diplomacy. I dislike her association with Character First. I disliked her willingness to use apple-pie bumpersticker sentiments and pass them off as policy declarations. I have no doubts about her sincerity, her honesty, her devout decency, and her dedication as a mother and governor.
I’m a pluralist and an egalitarian. A well-read, thoughtful liberal who believes that religious liberty is best protected by an openly secular government. For me, what is there to like about the idea of Sarah Palin as president? Nothing, really. That doesn’t mean I hate her, or fear her, or want to destroy her. It doesn’t mean I’m deviant. It doesn’t mean I’m less “American.”
It saddens me that so many liberals who post on this site resort to personal attacks and emotional knee-jerkism. A rational case can be made for current liberal thinking. I can usually defend my point simply by dispelling the ridiculous stereotypes, and calmly finding common ground without flailing for the first witty barb that flits into my head.
I appreciate your efforts to enlighten me, peace guy.
In fact, I’m familiar with your “scholarly” (ahem) study.
You probably would consider this piece of absurdity, out of Berzerkley some years ago, to be scholarly as well, not some piece of crapola from left leaning academics with time on their hands.
In fact, given the way your own brain seems to function (function is used loosely), I have no doubt that you might cite it in order to eddukate me further.
Researchers help define what makes a political conservative
I disliked her statements about diplomacy.
Which ones ? be specific
I dislike her association with Character First.
Guess I missed that, whatever “Character First” is.
I disliked her willingness to use apple-pie bumpersticker sentiments and pass them off as policy declarations.
Which ones, specifically ? I don’t make a connection with what you’re referring to.
More recently, Palin has declared a huge problem with the egregious spending of the Obama administration (see any positive results flowing from that? Joe “we guessed wrong” Biden doesn’t…) and the tendency or impetus towards Jabba the Hutt growth of the scope and power of the federal government.
Works for me.
Dan R.,
Maybe I’m stating the obvious, but to address your issue: welcome to the internet. The blog administration has to make a strategic decision to either let anything go (as here), or censor comments heavily. The kind of high brow discussion that you seem to want can only happen in a highly censored environment.
Roger (I assume it’s his decision, anyway) has to make some choices in how heavy a hand he uses in censoring comments. How much time he has to devote to it is one of the considerations. But heavy censorship also carries the liability of being accused of political censorship. So he chooses to run a (mostly) hands-off comments section. It’s a no-win; he’s going to face criticism no matter which way he goes.
As to the “barbs”, there’s an important distinction to be made. IMO, the ad-hominem type comments (i.e. “you right-wing toothless hillbilly redneck ___”) types of comments are garbage, contribute nothing, and should be given the boot. Snark, OTOH can be intelligent discourse, and ridicule can be a legitimate way of displaying the weaknesses in an argument (for a good example of snark genius, refer to http://iowahawk.typepad.com/ ). Yes, it can be characterized as “mean”, and if you’re into red herrings, you can call it “hate” and “racist” if you desire, but it is on topic, and does contribute to the debate.
[i]Dan R.,
Maybe I’m stating the obvious, but to address your issue: welcome to the internet. The blog administration has to make a strategic decision to either let anything go (as here), or censor comments heavily. The kind of high brow discussion that you seem to want can only happen in a highly censored environment.
Roger (I assume it’s his decision, anyway) has to make some choices in how heavy a hand he uses in censoring comments. How much time he has to devote to it is one of the considerations. But heavy censorship also carries the liability of being accused of political censorship. So he chooses to run a (mostly) hands-off comments section. It’s a no-win; he’s going to face criticism no matter which way he goes.
As to the “barbs”, there’s an important distinction to be made. IMO, the ad-hominem type comments (i.e. “you right-wing toothless hillbilly redneck ___”) types of comments are garbage, contribute nothing, and should be given the boot. Snark, OTOH can be intelligent discourse, and ridicule can be a legitimate way of displaying the weaknesses in an argument (for a good example of snark genius, refer to http://iowahawk.typepad.com/ ). Yes, it can be characterized as “mean”, and if you’re into red herrings, you can call it “hate” and “racist” if you desire, but it is on topic, and does contribute to the debate.[/i]
I’m a fairly regular diarist at dailykos, so I’m not unfamiliar with the innate democracy of article commentary. I was trying to say that I don’t think there are many liberal-leaning comments here that would do much to provoke any sort of worthwhile discourse; instead, they seem to make most of the “regulars” feel more comfortable with some of their least defensible opinions.
My general ouevre is snark. BUt I’m trying to be a little respectful. If the respect would make my comments less relevant, I probably would be better off simply reading the articles and snorting to myself through my chablis. And I’m not being reactionary in saying so. Just acknowleding the possibility that I have overlooked the apparent.
usafirst said: “It is pretty much accepted as fact in the scientific community. NOTE: ’scientific community’ = scientists.”
then why is it called a “theory” Einstein.
Dan R, @268,
You’ve described yourself as an “egalitarian.” Please define how exactly you understand that. There are many ways of understanding it, thus, it begs for a clarification from you. I’m sure if you are well-read you would be able to answer that question. We hayseeds need more specificity.
From Aureliano, #224
“Also, the demographics will be different in 2012 than they were in 2000. …. and amnesty is highly likely”
Palin is actually well-positioned for that influx of Latino/a voters. All this young grandmother has to do is take lots of pictures with her big ‘ol family and go to some events (jaripeos, Vicente Fernandez concerts) and let the wolf whistles roar. She has also been evasive (though others claim she is “tough”) on immigration issues. Remember, if you have a lot of ice, you probably dont need as much ICE.
#264
The debate is over. There are no competing SCIENTIFIC theories. Evolution is it.
Creationism is NOT science. Why can’t you understand the difference? Hell, they aren’t even competing. God could have created the universe, and evolution is the course that it takes. You can study evolution, and challenge it. It has been challenged over and over again. It still stands. Creationism is not based upon science, but faith. It can’t be measured or tested, it is a philosophy. Therefore it is not science and not in the same realm as evolution.
Evolution is referred to as a “theory” in the scientific context, which has a much stricter meaning than the common way of thinking about it. First you have a hypothesis…etc. Ever hear of the scientific method, Einstein?
The people who support Sarah Palin are the same who think Bush was a good president. Step away from Fox/Rush/Hannity/Coulter/Cheney!!! Just look at the 15 Letterman protesters….is this the GOP base?
Pathetic.
Two words best describe Palin derangement disorder; Urban Snobbery. Anyone else remember the video of New Yorker’s obscene reaction to a small gathering of McCain/Palin supporters a few days before the election?
Fred, @268
Actually, I don’t have a problem with any form of egalitarianism — even (or especially) Christain egalitarianism. And the definition is rather explicit. It’s kind of like subdividing the word “every” — “Which ‘every’ did you mean?” Granted, not all expressions of it have equal effectiveness as gov’t policy. The concept informs my thinking about politics because I believe that the government should not enforce cultural fences between law abiding citizens. Culture and laws change with time — so you can’t just say, “Hey, everyone’s equal. Next order of business….”
And that’s all I mean by it. Of course, I would be happier if everyone was equal on all variable fronts. But that doesn’t mean that the government can enforce equality — but it has a responsibility to remove any barriers to equality. The rest is up to the individual. That being said, I would also like to burn your Bible, run over Bush’s dog with my hybrid, and erect a statue of Karl Marx in the streets of Montgomery.
*I qualified that I was ‘well-read’ not because I wanted to indicate some sort of learndedification. I’m a college drop-out.
Dan R,
In our system, what we have, and what should always be the case, is equality before the law. That is what the founders intended. At the other end of the spectrum is the thinking about egalitarianism as equality of outcome. The two are very different.
The latter part of your statement was not necessary and, I think, in poor taste. You cannot, for the sake of integrity, invoke Christian egalitarianism, on the one hand, and on the other want to run roughshod over the Bible. For the record, I’m a Catholic and not a textual literalist; however, I am not hostile towards that body of canonical texts we call the New Testament and the Old Testament. Without those traditions and testimony you cannot even have a Christianity. At best, you would have the various schools of Gnosticism that abounded in the world of Late Antiquity from the 3rd through 5th centuries. By the way, for the record, I drive a hybrid too, but I chose it for the gas mileage, not a devotion to Gaia.
Most informed Christians have no problem with our system of government and our Constitution. We don’t want a state-sponsored church. That was the intent of the founders. But they most certainly did not want Christian values banished from the public sphere. One does, after all, owe it to them to read their writings carefully on these, and other, topics.
279. Dan R:
“The rest is up to the individual. That being said, I would also like to burn your Bible, run over Bush’s dog with my hybrid, and erect a statue of Karl Marx in the streets of Montgomery.”
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Wow. Burning someone ELSE’s bible, killing someone ELSE’s pet and erecting a statue of Karl Marx on public property is way whack for a fantasy, dude. WAY WHACK.
… erect a statue of Karl Marx in the streets of Montgomery …
Hey I could live with that.
So long as the statue was of Karl Marx being run over by a pickup truck while being shat on by a pit bull next to a burning copy of Das Kapital.
Not that anybody’s actually read Das Kapital.
Especially in Montgomery.
Lenin would have loved you. So would Hitler. And Cardinal Bellarmine. And Al Gore.
WTF are you so afraid of, anyway?
280, 281:
Sorry guys. I was being light-hearted with my “fantasy”: See, I had been asked to clarify my interpretation, so i did so in a peaceful, respectful, and non-stereotypical way. The last sentence of the paragraph was a wink, since my contention has been that most liberals don’t “hate” Sarah Palin (except for a hyper-emotional fringe element that gets the most publicity) or America, or God or whatever it is that we’re supposed to mindlessly hate.
Kind of like if you were to post on HuffPo and say, “I believe in these principles here… small gov, family values yadda-yadda… I’m sure your Obama is a decent enough guy, but I have philosophical disagreements with him. I don’t need to hate him to disagree with him. I’m no danger to your America. That being said, I want to burn down every Whole Foods, turn all wine into water, and ban yoga (and NPR)!
Because stereotypes are stupid, and we should all get over them.
The more the left attacks Palin, the more I like her. She is the absolute antithesis of most femi-nazis: smart, self-made, & real-life parent, successfully juggling a political career and family. (I know what you’re thinking – a PG daughter isn’t a successful parent, but who are you to say that wouldn’t have happened even if Palin had never been Governor. She’s still successful in my view.) She built her career in AK taking on the powerful corrupt interests, some that were occurring in her own Republican party. She is fearless and has more chutzpah than most male Governors across the U.S. (with the possible exception of Ah-nuld). The media will never like her and will never give her a pass, as they do Obama & Biden on pretty much a daily basis. She should ignore them and press onward and upward.
. . . if only she weren’t so ugly.
Dan R….Its always nice hearing from a mainstream Democrat.
Read Glen Beck’s new book. It’s all fact, provable facts..
It is pathetic that we put up with the nasty crude press and politicians that we have now. Our country will fall if we do not wise up. Of course Acorn will be there to prop us up with their socialists plan.
Palin is not a middle of the road person. She actually has an opinion that she has formed, one that has not been given to her. She is not a socialists.
I suppose if I was a frumpy, short-haired bull-dike stuck deep in the bowels of a community college sociology dept for the last 16 years I’d hate Sarah Palin, too. Sarah proves that you don’t have to have three broken marriages and a hyphenated last name to make it – and that must piss all hell out of the bitter chicks on the left, and the pretenders like that complete incoherent idiot Kathleen Parker and her ilk.
#279 Dan R – I understood the snark in your comment. Pretty good, actually. Someone here welcomed you as a true Dem. I think you might actually be a Libertarian. We’ll see.
Anyway, I’m a Conservative, but I still welcome you here as someone who can add to the dialogue, rather than toss out the usual talking points and insults.
usafirst – As to the theory of evolution, it IS generally accepted, but that doesn’t at all make it fact. The truth is, there is plenty out there to disprove evolution, but most don’t want to look at the contrary evidence. Evolution has a huge megaphone in our school system, because of the fact that Creationism is not taught.
Do yourself a favor. Do a search of anti-evolution arguments. I have many stored, but I find most people read these things others provide with too much suspicion.
As for Creation, science supports it completely. Ther is nothing out there to refute the Creation Theory of the universe. It’s a fairly accurate account. It’s not all about religion. Leave out the God part, and it is still a theory of how the universe came into being, and it concurs with the Ovoid (Big-Bang) Theory. Since there is no sound in space, it should have been called the Big-Flash theory, as in “Let there be Light!”
The proof of God is in Genesis. The fact that primitives got it right thousands of years ago is The Miracle. Either the primitives made a Really Good Guess, or God exists and told them. God is the lesser miracle in this case.
263. kywrite:
“Sarah Palin is the woman we all want to be.”
That’s fine for the average woman, but for a political leader, I’d raise the bar quite a bit.
She’s got coglione!
Governor Sarah Palin limited experience is a myth. In the 2008 campaign she was the lonely one with the experience of governing a state with a hih approval rating ( between 60%&80% ).
McCain was a senator, Hillary ( senator ), Obama
( young senator )and… Joe Biden ( senator ).
And I thought the Left hated Palin because she was more qualified than B.O. in every way, and figured that her bump as a female role model would offset a significant portion of the ‘articulate, bright and clean’ white guilt vote.
#288 DITTO a hundred times over!!!!!
could not be said better…!!, except to add a few names…
okay, also agree with 293 and 294!!! you guys are great!!!
288. donttreadonme . . . “Sarah proves that you don’t have to have three broken marriages and a hyphenated last name to make it.”
Right again, you don’t have to have three broken marriages to make it, but it doesn’t hurt . . . ask Newt. Ask Rush. Pretty soon you can ask John Ensign.
#245 Confidence? A producer for SNL (I can’t remember her name)had to meet with ‘Cuda and prep her for the skits. In an interview recently the topic of Sarah came up. The producer said that the Gov. was the most confident person she had ever met. She seemed awestruck from the encounter-and she said that she has worked with tons of celebs and entertainers.
@263. kywrite:
“Sarah Palin is the woman we all want to be.”
I don’t know many women who could say that without either gagging our laughing.
If you want to be like Palin, that’s great for you – but don’t pretend that “we all want to be” like Sarah. It’s not true.
Peace.
DS
everyone I know voted for Sarah because she was honest,and did not bend the question so she could answer it with political double talk.
Run Sarah Run………..We the people need a good shot of fresh air.
usafirst, martin in atl. etc. I take it that Sarah can’t expect your support in the future. Well guess what, she probably does not want your support and she is not going to need your support. I hope she never has any appeal to the troglodite wing of the Democrat Party.
Here, in Australia, we have a corrupt lying little wimp running our country now, with the one eyed media under his thumb…if Sarah Palin isn’t appreciated over there for her intelligence,honesty,and knowhow, please send her here ASAP coz’ we really need the likes of her here downunder…thanks,(in advance).
Nohomon@253:
Threadwinner!
Yes, Palin will never receive a good, fair treatment from press, but… there is no such a thing as bad publicity; and she can take all that media coverage and use it to her own advantage.
I think Sarah Palin just needs more experience and has to do more “homework”. So she might be a far better politician. But at her current state she really would have been a bad vice president.
I dislike her because she is ignorant and anti-intellectual. Like her, I love God, cherish family, and support the rights of the unborn. Unlike her, I am intellectually curious, well-informed and aware of international issues and politics. If the Republican party wishes to destroy all potential of a political future, they will support this poor example of an educated and God-fearing woman. You lost a lot of us by placing her on the ticket. Shame on the Republican establishment for thinking Palin is the best example of womanhood available. Send her to university, give her some world experience and a few geography classes, and I just might return to the Party.
There is such blistering hatred by the media elites against Palin that she will probably have to go straight to the people with her message. Media types are elites. Everyday people are not. Palin is an everyday person. And it won’t be possible to connect directly to everyday people if her message has to go through the media or the regular political machine. She needs her own media outlet.
Britt has it right.
Palin is an average housewife, a proven incompetent in public office, and not a particularly effective wife and mother.
How does such an one qualify to be made the most powerful person in this world?
She is neither logical nor scriptural.
This Independent will again vote for Dr. Alan Keyes if the GOP runs the likes of this bimbo.
ps: “Better qualified than Obama”?
My cocker spaniel is better qualified than Obama.
Now that I think about it, better qualified than Palin, too.
the only reason mccain got my vote was because of palin
Hey, why is everyone still talking as though we are still ruled by the politicians, whether Republican, Democrats or Independents?
Hopefully the “grass roots” tea party has restored our faith that we are a country ruled by the people, not a bunch of sheep ruled by an elite group of politicians, who are above the people. Let the established parties, some of who are still covered by the MSM have their chosen candidates.
Before our present self-aggrandized “Imperial Administration” shuts down our one source (the internet) of circumventing the biased MSM and sharing information with each other, “we the people” should declare our own “GRASS ROOTS TEA Party” and decide that Sarah Palin, who appears to be an honest, genuine person who has a faith that she believes in and stands up for, has shown some pride in this Nation has the qualities we can appreciate and admire. At least she knew that we have 50 states, not Obamas stated 57 (as the Muslims do)! Obviously she knows more about our history also. Aren’t we proud of the fairness of MSM on this particular one?? They never even mentioned his “foot in mouth disease” nor his lack of knowledge of our history.
The fact that she stepped down as governor of Alaska instead of wasting the states money on defending false charges made against her by those who feared losing to her in the next presidential election and the fact that I have never heard of her filing for bankruptcy tells me that she knows economy better than the one who said we have 57 states and is trying to improve our economy by
drastically increasing our national debt more rapidly than anyone in our past history. I don’t see Sarah Palin surrounding herself
with income tax cheats, and getting so chummy with the likes of ACORN and CAIR. I think she knows the Constitution well enough to
know that czars are not mentioned in the Constitution and that she
would strive to uphold it after swearing to do so, which is more
than I can say about our Washington politicians at present. Neither can I see Sarah Palin trying to shove a health reform or any other bill that she herself did not know what it covered upon us, especially if she knew enough about what was in it that all the politicians to vote on it, exempted themselves and their families from being covered by that same bill. I can’t see Sarah Palin passing bills for American citizens to abide by while letting the legislators who voted for it exempt themselves and their families from being covered by it.
I can see Sarah Palain seeking someone who has demonstrated successful knowledge of economics, such as Warren Buffet, to inquire if they would tackle the National economy to assist in getting this Nation’s economy back to solvency or listening to advice from him and other successful business people. I can also
see Sarah Palin and Ron Paul doing an extensive audit of the Federal Reserve Bank, from day one to the present, so that we all could be more knowledgeable than Bernanke, who said “I don’t know”
when asked where the money went. We all have the right to know where our money went in the past or goes in the future.
Yes, Sarah Palin would be the target of many obvious insults and lies, but I think she has demonstrated her character well by stepping down to save her state from bankruptcy defending the false charges against her to destroy her chances in any future campaign, but then bounced right back into the limelight where where she could continue to fight to save this country we all know and love from where it is headed without worrying about harming the state of Alaska. Does this sound like a woman who can’t handle the insults or who cowers from them???? This speaks of a woman who has probably used her time wisely to talk with her children and tell them that the behavior of those adults who threw slurs at you in the past (or those who may do so in the future) is far worse in the sight of our Creator than any mistake you made. She was probably also giving much needed reassurance to her beloved children that any mistake they made was not the cause of the Republican candidates losing the election.
Before the internet is shut down, perhaps it is time for all of us to declare that Sarah Palin will be our Grassroots Tea Party
presidential candidate and Ron Paul her VP (or even vice versa) and if their names are not on the ballot, we can all request a write in ballot and write them in, thereby circumventing being forced to vote for someone not of our choice. If anyone has better candidates, please come forth with them and state their qualifications. The rest of the candidates should be picked by each state individually and agreed upon before the elections for the same reason. Again, if their names are not there, ask for the write in ballot, and write them in. This will also tell the MSM what we think of their coverage in the last presidential campaign and they might even regain some honesty and fairness and return to being a news media instead of a propaganda outlet for the elite.
The most positive thing I can say about the present administration is that they have awakened the American people and hopefully will keep them more alert and observant of what their elected officials are doing and keep them looking beyond what a candidate says while paying close attention to what he/she does – also to look beyond the color of their skin to the color of their hearts.
In closing, I also ask that all of you familiarize yourselves with
Senator McCain’s Dietary Supplement Safety Act (DSSA) and contact your representatives urging them to vote against it.
lol at that comment!