Why the Muslim Beard Bodes Trouble
To develop a thorough understanding of Islam, one must learn to “connect the dots.” For instance, Muslims who adhere to non-problematic aspects of Islam, indirectly indicate their acceptance of problematic aspects of Islam — such as enmity for infidels, death for apostates, subjugation for women, and so on.
Consider the Muslim beard. Because Muhammad wanted his Muslims to look different from infidel Christians and Jews, he ordered them to “trim closely the moustache and grow the beard.” Accordingly, all Sunni schools of law maintain that it is forbidden, a “major sin,” for men to shave their beards — unless, of course, it is part of a stratagem against the infidel, in which case it is permissible.
Prior to Ramadan, Islamic leaders in Egypt called for a million men to grow their beards and show Egypt’s adherence to Muhammad’s commands. Popular and enthusiastic preachers such as Muhammad Hassan went as far as to pray for the day when 80 million Egyptians grew their beards — a figure that presumably includes women and children, as 80 million is the size of Egypt’s entire population.
Amr Adib, a popular talk show host on Cairo Today, mocked this call for a “million man beard” with his trademark sarcasm: “This is a great endeavor! After all, a man with a beard can never be a thug, can never rape a woman in the street, can never set a church on fire, can never fight and quarrel, can never steal, and can never be dishonest!”
He and his Egyptian viewers know quite well that it is precisely those Muslims who most closely follow the minutia of Muhammad — the Salafists — that are most prone to violence and deceit, which were also advocated by the prophet. Towards the end of the program, Adib spoke seriously, ominously, saying this issue is not about growing a beard, but rather, “once you grow your beard, you give proof of your commitment and fealty to everything in Islam.”
“some people, mostly Westerners, are shocked to find that those who wear it are often “crooks” and “liars.””
Similar to India, where tourists go to see gurus who (the local Indians know) are all useless conmen.
For Braun, Norelco and Gillete, the Muslim world represent 90% of their profit base, only if they can tap into this region.
Line ‘em all up and take a weed-whacker to them.
If they happen to get hit in the face, too bad.
No tears here.
In 2007, the current Prime Minister of Turkey, the Right Honorable Recep Tayyip Erdogan, said: “There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it”.
And he’s right, of course.
Which is why I once again say: The only good Muslim is a bad Muslim.
Yup,
But I like the “Sherman Version” of that idea a little better
Actually, I believe that you mean Sheridan who said “The only good Indians that I ever saw were dead.” and his misquote of that remark became what is remembered.
froglegs is correct.
Tayyip Erdogan Armenicide (Mr TEA) seems to be a little lacking in the face fungus. No? Not a TRULY devout mohammedan?
And who says the Muslim Brotherhood isn’t going to take over in Egypt? Yup, the Obama administration really hit a home run on this one. They got rid of a dictator that for years supported the United States and was at peace with Israel and, after the upcoming “elections,” are going to replace Mubarak with a radical Islamic government similar to the one that is in Iran. Not only that, as an added extra “bonus,” this new militant regime will also help start a regional war with Israel that will set the whole Middle East in flames. Now this is really a good example of Obama and Clinton’s use of “Smart Power.” Any more examples of this and we may actually have a nuclear war in the Middle East in the near future. Great job, guys.
Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood have already scored a major coup in Egypt…literally.
Obozo and company wanted it that way.
and Israel will be blamed as the aggressor as usual.
dont confuse clinton and obama. obama helped muslims kill muslims in libya. clinton helped muslim invaders kill kill the christian residents of bosnia and kosovo. by my tally, clinton is the greater criminal.
That’s true.
However, both GWB and Obozo have ratified the Clintons’ war against the Serbs by allowing the Muslims to keep their ill-gotten gains in the Balkans. GWB should have publicly repudiated his predecessor’s actions and should have given Kosovo back to Serbia, quickly, in an orderly manner, and with a public apology.
Instead, this is what has happened, and we are all paying the price.
Don’t fear the beard. Fear the scab on the forehead.
I’ve seen moderates with beards before. But Muslims who have scabs on their foreheads from pushing their heads into their prayer mats are usually not to be trusted.
They actually smack their heads into the floor.
It gives them an altered state of consciousness.
Permanently.
Islam and Brain Damage
It is beyond me how any SANE person can adhere to this rediculous, primitive and illogical cult. I have seen so many mentally and physically defective Moslems in my travels and they are treated worse than animals by their own people. I used to pity them, the women in particular….but now I just despise them and cringe at the very sight of one on the street. Too bad we cannot just “wish them in to the cornfields”…..
Repeat after me: “It’s a good life. It’s a good life. It’s a good life….” And remember to keep mumbling!
(With apologies to the shade of Jerome Bixby.)
“I used to pity them, the women in particular….”
so did I, until I realised that they were motivated by fear; fear of responsibility, fear of decisions, fear of the men around them. It takes courage to stand up and cope.
One of the reasons why some women in the west are willing to give up the rights we worked hard to get them, in order to become chattel. Never have to make a decision again!
‘Not being a slave means you have the freedom to starve’ (RAH)
I must say that I agree. Sadly. Or maybe not.
The Muslim working the cash register at the LaGuardia Airport newsstand the other day—inside the TSA screening zone—had such a forehead mark.
Builds a lot of confidence in airport security.
It seems a lot of Muslims work at airports. Coincidence, I am sure.
That forehead mark makes a pretty good target for the head shot when doing a double tap.
Wow. It’s extremely interesting to discover that this “prayer bump” is called a zebiba meaning “raisin”. There’s been some talk about how the 72 virgins promised to martyrs by the Koran is actually a mistranslation and really means “72 raisins”. Can it be that the martyrs who enter paradise are actually only going to get 72 knocks on the head?
Makes as much sense as anything else that’s come out of this crazy ideology.
Almost right, Rebecca. It IS a mistranslation, but the correct translation isn’t “raisins”, it’s “Virginians”.
Black shirts, brown shirts, beard or burqas, it’s all the same.
Ibrahim does it again: Underscores Islam’s utter lack of the least redeeming value or virtue as a moral code, or even as a cult. Mohammad commands; ergo, I obey. Grow a lice-infested beard, wear a sweaty hijab, mutilate your 6-year-old daughter (later kill her if she “shames” you), lie to Jews and infidels, spit on blacks even if they’re Muslims and never ever question the authority of Allah…Oh! This is such an attractive creed for the mentally retarded and the recidivist and the selfless. Someone ought to do a TV series called “The Muslim Hillbillies.” Well, if one gets into a fight with one of these pious bearded ones, the beard is ripe for the pulling and yanking. Taking a Zippo lighter to the fight, too, would be a good idea. And the fight would begin with one kicking a Muslim in the ass while he’s doing prayers: “Hey, moron, you’re bowing to a meteorite!”
I hesitate to write it, but it has to be: In 1933, when Hitler came to power, some very nasty articles appeared about specific groups, the Jews for example, but not only the Jews. At first, most people argued that one should ignore the evil talk and it would have no influence on people, but it had. That`s why evil talk is seen as a crime in Germany (Volksverhetzung). Concerning films: Ever heard of “Jud Süß”?
I’m one of those un-American Europeans but I got a different take on the comparison between jews and Islam. The first thing one would have to ask is: is the comparison valid? Here is what some top clerics preaches:
Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, has said: “Islam will return to Europe as a conqueror and victor, after being expelled from it twice.”
And Muhammad Taqi Usmani has said: “If Muslims do not possess the capability of “Jehad with power” agreement maybe made till the power is attained. … The question is whether Aggressive battle is by itself a commendable or not? If it is, why should Muslims stop simply because territorial expansion in these days is regarded as bad? And if it is not commendable but deplorable did Islam not stop it in the past? … Aggressive Jehad is lawful even today for the purpose it was lawful in those days.” (from the book “Islam and Modernism”)
As far as I know there was no jews planning to take over the world as the Nazis accused them of. I must say I agree with Christopher Hitchens who very eloquently wrote: Reactions from even “moderate” Muslims to criticism are not uniformly reassuring. “Some of what people are saying in this mosque controversy is very similar to what German media was saying about Jews in the 1920s and 1930s,” Imam Abdullah Antepli, Muslim chaplain at Duke University, told the New York Times. Yes, we all recall the Jewish suicide bombers of that period, as we recall the Jewish yells for holy war, the Jewish demands for the veiling of women and the stoning of homosexuals, and the Jewish burning of newspapers that published cartoons they did not like. What is needed from the supporters of this very confident faith is more self-criticism and less self-pity and self-righteousness.
Could you explain yourself more precisely when bringing this up?
Why do BOTH sides have such a terrible time grasping the simple fact that the only logical response to Jihad is CRUSADE. And the sooner the West (re)awakens to this, the sooner sanity can return to the Realm of Man.
Excellent! Bravo! Unfortunately, it’s The Solution that Must Not Be Named according to all existing Western governments.
They got this beard stuff from the Jews. Too made there were no intellectual property laws back than…ho hum
LOL…you are correct that there is absolutely nothing wrong with beards in and of themselves.
Orthodox Christian males (not only clergy and monastics, but also laymen) are encouraged to grow beards, on the grounds that hair is a gift from God.
But there is no requirement to “trim the mustache closely”. Unlike Islam, there is nothing in Orthodox Christian doctrine that provides for spreading the faith by the use of force or fraud, or for acts of terrorism against unbelievers or anybody else.
so then why do the castrate the women …did god screw up when he made them?
Orthodox Christians are AGAINST any form of bodily mutilation.
Muslims – not so much. You’ll have to ask THEM why they practice FGM.
I think it’s because they’re a bunch of sickos.
Lots of us “budding Jewish intellectuals” sported beards back in my university days – myself included. But that was long ago. And, except for a radical few, we weren’t blowing things up. Some of us long ago abandoned the foolish thinking of our youth – sadly, not all of us. Jewish “boomers” are still overwhelmingly liberal.
The beard and the burka are the gang colors of the islamic world.
It is their uniform of belonging. One nice thing about a uniform: Those who advocate the evil of enforced conformance to religious ideals, and hatred of others, usually develop some form of uniform so that they can identify who to hate. Of course, such uniforms work both ways. It also makes it very easy to know who your enemy is…
That is exactly correct.
Of course, in dealing with infidels and subverting our society Muslims are permited to adopt nontraditional dress, as well as practice “taqiyya” (religous deception or lying). Supposedly, only Shi’ites perform taqiyya. I remain skeptical about that assertion.
Actually I go with Parkinson. He wrote that beards were just covers for deception. If you have one, people can’t see you blush when you are caught in a lie.
He offer the Victorian gentleman as an example: no one can see them blush when they lie about their brothel-hopping.
I personally find anyone who has to rely on visible or stated signs of group membership not worth knowing, no trustworthy.
Do you make an exception for cops, firefighters, military personnel, and guys wearing Broncos jerseys?
The point is well made, though. Uniforms are *supposed* to stand for certain values embodied by the wearer. Religious garb means “holy,” which implies “good,” “honest,” and “not gonna hurt me.” Same applies to police uniforms, which mean “protector,” “public servant,” “I pay his salary,” “won’t beat me up or shoot me.” As we know from experience, it’s not always safe to assume the person inside the uniform is what he’s supposed to be.
Two anecdotes. Back in the 80s when the Soviets were still in Afghanistan, our area had an influx of Afghan immigrants. I shared a long daily bus ride with one of them, an old-country-looking guy named Akbar. He worked in a restaurant. Sometimes he’d share Afghan sweets with me and the other riders. Nice guy, didn’t speak much English. But one time as we tried to converse he passed his fingers across his cheeks and told me, “Your beard. Good.” I thought that was nice.
This century, we had a guy from Pakistan or someplace working at the local convenience store. He was middle-aged, relatively friendly, remembered and greeted all his regular customers. He dressed Western style at all times. Then one week he showed up with a beard. Post-9/11, I had some of the same thoughts expressed in this article. Eventually, the guy no longer came to work at the convenience store. One day, I caught a glimpse of him in the parking lot. He was dressed in full old-country regalia – beard, skullcap, white “pajama” outfit, black vest. I saw him sporting this look a number of times over a couple of years. Then one day he turned up back at the store, no beard, no native get-up, just the same old guy as before. He said he had gotten into real estate and worked part time at different stores in the area. I didn’t know what to make of this. Maybe he went back home for a while? Or underwent some religious ritual or training? Or maybe he was a religious leader all along? Not sure. Is there a situation in which a pious but Westernized Muslim might go full-out “traditional” for a time, then revert back?
I still wonder about beards. I kind of expect them on older immigrants from Muslim countries. They’re traditional – doesn’t necessarily mean anything. I wonder about beards on young, otherwise Western-looking men, however. Just getting in touch with their religion and culture, or just getting radical? Who knows? I try to give them the benefit of the doubt.
— “I try to give them the benefit of the doubt.”
Seriously?
It beats being paranoid. “Benefit of the doubt” means I don’t automatically assume they’re jihadi freaks. That doesn’t mean I’m not alert to which way the wind is blowing. It’s really the way I’ve felt about Muslims and others, as well as the left and our politicians, since 9/11. Don’t freak out. Don’t stock up on ammo and MRIs. Just keep an eye on things in your own neck of the woods. See with your own eyes.
I don’t care how the news says Somali cab drivers in Detroit behave. I’m more interested in how the guy at 7-11 looks at me and whether there are any signs of local “youth” acting up. There are usually signs when trouble is coming. I’m not seeing any. They’re burning down their own neighborhoods in France and elsewhere. Not so where I live.
I agree with many of the comments above.
The teachings contained in the Quaran are incompatable with state and federal constitutions because of Sharia. Any judge, either state or federal, who would entertain Sharia as a source for justice is violating allegiance under the constitutions. This is the primary reason I don’t trust Muslim advocates, they are by definition seditious. When you add in the practices of Islam, its closed minded mysogany, all or nothing blindness and intolerant viciousness, that is ball game for me.
If they want to practice it in the Kingdom of Saud, that’s their business, but I don’t want it around me.
Because of what Islam stands for, I take pride in my opposition to it. I am tolerant towards any faith that teaches the golden rule, but Islam doesn’t believe in that concept, only in hegemony. On that basis, Muslims can’t be trusted under our constitutional framework.
Zech 8:17
17′Also let none of you devise evil in your heart against another, and do not love perjury; for all these are what I hate,’ declares the LORD. ”
One solution to the Islam problem is to NUKE all major Islamic Holy Sites. The only problem now is that Obama is a Muslim and he wouldn’t even think of hurting his own kind.
But Islam and Muhammad is a lie. Muhammad is a false prophet. Here is some interesting reading on the topic at “Answering the Infidels:” http://www.answeringinfidels.com/answering-infidels/answering-muslims/islam-beheaded-the-information-superhighway–the-death-of-mohammedanism.html
The bumper sticker which cannot be made: Left side — picture of crowd of Muslim pilgrims at Mecca; right side — mushroom cloud; center — big red capital letters “NUKE MECCA NOW”. Park it next to a mosque and collect your insurance when they torch it.
There are, of course, many so-called Muslims who happened to have simply been born into Muslim families who believe none of the garbage but would never dare tell their friends and relatives. Similarly we have Christians and Jews and Hindus in the same circumstances but they don’t need to fear murder if they announce their independent beliefs. As far as the correlation between beard and corruption, I recall as a youngster in a small town in church when my dad told me, “Take a look at the men sitting in the front row with the most pious expressions and you will see the biggest crooks in town.” Twenty years ago many Muslim women had given up wearing the various head coverings but started wearing them as a statement when the Jihad got into gear. Whenever you see a woman wearing the head rag or a veil you can be sure that it means she wants you dead or that her husband would kill her if she didn’t wear it. Petro dollars have brought to life a long sleeping, evil dinosaur which will wreak havoc for another generation or two. In America, where some Muslim factions are programmed to continuously push in their quest for global domination, redneck elements will begin to push back in violent ways, mosques will be blown up, and whenever there is conflict, innocents will also lose their lives.
Yet if such Muslims meticulously follow the minor, “outer” things of Islam ….
In Islam, external appearances are all. They are very similar to the Pharisees of Jesus’ time, totally concerned with publicly obeying the Law, totally unconcerned with the internal state of their hearts. So long as they follow the 5 pillars, they have no concern with spousal abuse, homosexuality, bestiality, murder, or the poor in their society. (see “The Arab Mind” by Raphael Patai for documentation of how the Muslims, especially Arabs really act).
You are right about much of Islam (there are exceptions, such as Sufis), but please do not slander Pharisees. Every Orthodox Jew, myself included, is a Pharisee. What was originally an in-house argument in the original gospels has become a polemic against the Jews which is not justified. In this fight for the soul of western civilization, do not alienate your allies.
I have spent the last ten years in Indonesia, and also lived here for time in the 60s,and 70s, and traveled back and forth from the 80states in the 80s and 90s.
In the early 80s, I first started to see hijabs, but they were rare. Now they are clearly in the majority, I taught English the last ten years, and from the rare woman with a hijab and no bearded men, when I finally retired, the hijab was almost universal among my muslim students,while young men had taken to growing scraggly beards,wearing high collared shirts ala Iran, and often pants not reaching the ankle( there is something Koranic about the pants , but I don’t know what it is.
I saw my first zabibah around 03. Concurrently classroom discussions became disrupted with hatred of Israel and admiration for Iran. Bush was anathema.Classes were constantly disrupted by prayer times and the observation of the Ramadhan fast became universal, and it became dangerous to eat or smoke in the street.
In he 60s and 70s, the fast passed almost unremarked in urban areas. This same metamorphosis from a near secular cultural Islam to an observant political variety has been remarked by many observers of Turkey and Egypt. there is on the net a set of photographs of graduating classes from Cairo University and each decade the number of hijabs grow I have seen the same here. Anyone who thinks Islam is evolving is certainly correct, but the direction of its evolution is towards Muhammed’s time. The president plans to come here again and trumpet moderate Indonesia. I know what is in people’s hearts. It is not “moderation.” Th ereligous parties don’t poll well simply because the others have more goodies to give out, and all have bowed to Islam.
Absolutely correct Patrick. I too currently live in Indonesia but thankfully now in mainly Hindu Bali and not Jakarta where I had lived previously for four years. The Hijabs were not evident at all in both Indonesia and Malaysia too in the early 90′s when I started visiting Asia but they are now almost universal in both countries and with the Hijab comes militant Islam. Peer pressure is the initial driving force but when EVERY school in the land forces Islam down children’s throats on a daily basis what hope is there. As Winston Churchill so knowingly said “there is no more RETROGRADE force in the world than ISLAM”that was true when he said it in the 19th Century and even more true today.
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I can’t speak about conditions in Indonesia, but I can speak to the psychology of the spreading hijab.
First it originates with some preacher(s) who teaches that good girls who love God will want to show it by adopting it.
Then, once it becomes well established that good girls who just really love God will always wear hijabs, no girl will really want to be seen as a bad girl who doesn’t love God.
Before you know it, all the girls will be wearing it. And the few who refuse to start will eventually suffer for it as they get what they deserve as bad girls who don’t love God. Any girl who once starts to wear the scarf but changes her mind will then be too terrified to take it off again.
And this is how you get people to adopt something freely to the point where noone gets to choose anymore.
This is why religious ostentation is a bad thing.
I also think it is notable that Jesus was against religious ostentation. I believe that he may have had the above in mind because he gave Christians no uniform to wear. Even if that isnt the reason, then I am still glad that he didn’t. I would hate to have to try and convince some vigilante mob that I really do love God but that I just don’t want to wear some piece of religious garb!
Possibly another case of “pearls before swine?” Lots of religions have dress requirements – or at least preferences. Ideally, religious garb should act as a tool to help people become better at whatever religion they’re practicing. Real religious training has a lot of rules, many of which we’d rather not follow. Maybe wearing a hat whether we like hats or not is a small way to learn discipline. If you pay attention to the small stuff, the big stuff is easier to achieve.
However, if everybody wears hats because society has declared that “people who love God must wear hats” and if the hat police beat you if you take yours off – there’s no religious component to that at all. It teaches you to be afraid of other people (or your little playmates) and of the hat police.
Why is it that some of us have never learned that forcing people to dress and act religiously doesn’t make them or their society more religious? Do they really believe that God looks down from heaven, sees everybody wearing a hat, and thinks,”My what holy people?” Unbelievable.
there is on the net a set of photographs of graduating classes from Cairo University and each decade the number of hijabs grow ..
There is a similar photo collage to show the atavistic culture of Afghanistan, during the fifties and sixties people wore modern, European clothes adorned in native motifs. Folks went to modern, open enrollment colleges that produced lawyers, doctors and artists. Fast forward to Talibanization, the same locales, families and buildings sport an all-Islamic imprint.
Here is an interesting link on the Lost Afghanistan, at one time a tourist destination!!
PS: And, of course, at one time the cross-roads of the known world. How sad!
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Beards were a symbol of masculinity among the Jews long before the “Prophet” Mohamed was born. The Nazarites, among whom Samson was famous, never cut their hair. In the Song of Deborah, among the very oldest documents in Hebrew literature, later incorporated into the Book of Judges, the Prophet Deborah orders the Israelite tribes gathering for the final battle against the Canaanites to let grow their hair.
Islam, like Christianity, is a Jewish derivative. Unlike the Christians who are gifted in their own right, the Arabs are absent any semblance of creativity. A scavenger culture, everything Arab is imitative–borrowed or more accurately, stolen from the Jews, the Christians, the Persians or the Moguls.
There is a video made by a pseudo muslim Dr. who explains that growing a beard cures impotence.
It doesn’t?!
Trust me. It doesn’t.
Shaving is known to help get rid of crabs and
lice-enough said…Fire works too
the minutia of Muhammad — the Salafists — that are most prone to violence and deceit, which were also advocated by the prophet… “once you grow your beard, you give proof of your commitment and fealty to everything in Islam.”… Whereas the Muslim beard represents piety, some people, mostly Westerners, are shocked to find that those who wear it are often “crooks” and “liars.”
Then there is the prayer bump in the middle of the forehead, al Zawahiri’s is especially prominent in all his pictures.
Forehead bumps and beards as symbols of some kind of alleged high plane of existence…?
A reasonable Allah (SWT) would find all that ridiculous.
Yet if such Muslims meticulously follow the minor, “outer” things of Islam simply because their prophet made a few utterances concerning them in the hadith, logically speaking, does that not indicate that they also follow, or at least accept as legitimate, the major, “inner” themes Muhammad constantly emphasized in the hadith — such as enmity for and deceit of the infidel, and, when capable, perpetual jihad?
You think ?
Is THAT what that is? I thought he just had a really troublesome zit or something. Very attractive. Makes a good target as well. How long, I wonder, before someone disposes of this creature?
This article reminds me of that favorite old Ramadan carol, Achmed the Angry Arab.
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
Achmed the Angry Arab
Well there’s Ali, and Omar, and Yasir, and Habib …
Abu, and Khalid, and Hakeem, and Najeeb …
But do you recall?
The most blood-thirsty Arab of all!
Achmed the Angry Arab
Had a very wiry beard
And if you ever saw it
You would think it was quite weird
All of the other Arabs
Used to laugh and call him names
They’d never let poor Achmed
Join in any Jihad games
Then one fretful Ramadan day
Osama came to say
Achmed you are such a fright
Won’t you kill some Jews tonight?
Then all the Arabs loved him
And they shouted out with glee
Achmed the angry Arab
You will die a great shahid!
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
Well, I’ve read all the posts and I agree with just about all of them. Their time will come to a swift end after specific events take place. We are at Psalm 83 right now . . . move rapidly toward Ezekiel 38-40. There are intervening events but the one that sparks interest is a possible Israeli incursion (legitimate, of course) into Lebanon that will flatten Damascus. Israel will be blamed by the whole world and the Ezekiel war will come to pass. Meanwhile, regarding the beards and head scarves . . . I agree that if they’re willing to follow the tiny details, they will have no problem following the bigger ones. They don’t just worship the moon god, they are completely anti-Christ (as in the Mahadi). Look up who the Pakistanis believe Obama is . . . does the name the Dajal flip on light bulbs? Perry Stone has some good videos on where we’re at in God’s timetable. I also suggest Agenda – Grinding America Down on youtube. Click on the one with Bowers in a baseball cap. Will fry your brain.
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. –Matthew 24:36
People have been saying stuff like yours for two thousand years. They’ve always been wrong. Why should NOW be any different from THEN?
I agree.
I recently watched part of a forum discussion on Revelation. The theologians were tracing the historical and cultural references in the dream. Apparently the signs and symbols in Revelation are grounded in ancient Hebrew history and culture, and intended to be instructive, not prophetic. This makes a lot more sense, especially considering that Christ said we will not know in advance when He returns.
Bugs, I want to try to answer you. It may be true that people have been talking about the “last days” for 2000 years, but you have to apply a certain type of gut check, and certain knowledge about the last days predicted in the Bible. (Whether or not you believe the Bible is not the point here, but understanding why the Biblical perspective, among others, it is believed by many, are coming to a head.) The thing is is that there is no where else to go.
Here is my analogy… the bench press. The world record for a bench press is around a 1000 pounds, I think (even if it’s not, bear with me, because it will still make sense). We can be sure it will never reach 2000. We can be almost as certain it will never reach 1500. 1300? What with the new drugs and technologies this may be theorized, but 300 pounds is a lot of weight to put on top of what is already a lot of weight. The point is that there is a limit to what we can achieve, platitudes aside. The same applies to the moral degredation of men. Couple that with the unfolding scenarios throughout the world, and a pretty good case can be made that these ARE the last days (Isaac Newton predicted 2060).
The worldwide acceptance of millions of years of Evolution. … which begets widespread increases in atheism, (feigned) deism, and Gaia worshippers. And ineffectualizes divinity.
The worldwide acceptance that socialisms are the new modus operandi for free society.
The worldwide acceptance that the earth is a living organism, which must be saved.
The number of people in the world (perhaps, not a breaking point, but certainly even a realist’s realization that older modes of government will not be accepted). Also, suggests a worldwide currency and identification system are necessary.
The worldwide acceptance of becoming unashamed of deviances and more grave immoralities.
Worldwide apathy for all things that pertain to God. Public mockery and shunning.
Worldwide drug use, and mainstreaming.
The fact that we are instantly made aware of what is going on across the planet, with images no less.
So, from a Biblical point of view it is not unfathomable that these are the end times. There is, relatively, no where else to go. You can also note that I need not say anything specific about America’s decline with its perceived power, which the Bible makes no specific mention of either. It very much seems that almost all the pieces are coming together. And… perhaps, they are, and the world simply struggles to understand the disposition (focusing the eye).
Note: Evolutionists are privy to accept that the bench press will continue to increase if we “evolve” in that direction. In my opinion, this further analogizes the blinders they wear to man’s condition and place, and is why things will continue to degrade in the same avenues of morality, critical thinking, and logic. Evolution esoterically hijacked the narrative. But, of course, this is my belief.
How appreciative are we of the Enlightenment? The ways of the islamists should help us understand how lucky we are to have inherited its benefits, mostly freedom of expression, generally without having done anything personal to deserve it, and generally unaware of our duty to defend it.
The islamists are precisely those who would argue that the Enlightenment was a terrible disaster, to be undone, which is their life duty to accomplish.
We should encourage the muslims among us to learn to respect our values, even as it leads them to repudiate their problematic inheritance. We can do this by exhibiting our own pride, and doing what we must to protect the muslims who assume the enormous risks of turning away from the tyranny of their traditions. First of all, we should protect their women, which means that we should enforce our laws, and resist the encroachment of Shariah, which basically requires a return to the savagery which took so much sacrifice and effort to escape from in the first place.
Bottom line: Value freedom, and promote it! Why not?
This freaked me out, i knew if from reading Steyn’s ‘America Alone’, but still it shook me up. I’m beginning to think that without divine intervention, this thing is not winnable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9atIjykihkc
Since there is doubt about everything, to give someone the benefit of the doubt means to concede everything.
Pubic hair on the face, very attractive and oh so masculine…..sarc off..
Really? This seems to happen a lot. Especially during bad times amongst week minded people. You need someone to hate. Right? Black, Jew, catholic, Mexican. Now Muslim. First they came after the people with outward appearances of being “different”, then they went after the ones that “confessed” after being beaten, then they came after you and your family. Yeah, so many parallels to weak minded people who like to scapegoat others during bad times. I’m sure you all thought Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction and Afghanistan would crumple within weeks. And after being 100% wrong for ten straight years, here we are a decade later. Same old debate of extremism. No not from them, but the likes of you. Meanwhile, no money in the bank. We spent it all fighting never ending wars. Brought our economy to it’s knees. We fight like cats and dogs and then rally people around getting those “foreigners”. The one’s with the “Beards”. Yes, it’s all their fault!! While the Chinese kick our Economic Ass. School systems falling apart. Roads falling apart. No jobs, no future. Yeah, let’s go attack those Beard wearing A-Rabs!! Go America GO!! Yes “WE CAN” be the “BUTT Of the worlds JOKES!
“This seems to happen a lot. Especially during bad times amongst week minded people. You need someone to hate. Right?”
No, intelligent people relize the threat that islam presents. We’ve done our homework, we’ve studied the koran, hadith & sura, we’ve studied Mohammed, we’ve tracked the negative progress of muslim immigration on Europe, we’ve taken the Muslim Brotherhood at their word when they say will ““eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within.” we’ve watched CAIR fight tooth & nail to stop any attempt at a state daring to pass laws against sharia while claiming sharia is no different than American law, we’ve watched CAIR rub their hooves in glee every time someone is accused of an offense against a muslim and then waited for the inevitable lawsuit from them, we’ve watched muslims slide one sharia compliant accommodation after another into our culture and we’ve watched muslims became a superior group which we dare not offend, we’ve watched the government force mosques down the throats of cities who don’t want them and we’ve watched the POTUS bow & scape to his muslim masters.
When I read in their “holy” book that they must convert the whole world to islam, I believe them, when they say that they will ensure that sharia becomes the law of the land, I believe them, when they threaten to outbreed us and force everyone to submit to islam, I believe them. They are telling us what they are going to do and how they are going to do it. All you have to do is listen.
Alex,
What a simple analysis you provided. Yeah, its just some blind prejudice that those of us who oppose Islam practice. Yup, we just reflexively despise those who are different out of instinct.
Alex, go study Islam and take the time to educate yourself on what the believers actually adher to. There is no tolerance for other beliefs, there is only second class citizenship for women, there is a fealty to violence against nonbelievers, there is no room for a secular document like our Constitution. There is only hegemony, submission, and rigid ritual.
And you think that’s ok? What kind of human being are you? Wake up.
Alex, your comment made me smile. Are you sure that you are an American? Somehow you sound so…..European(I do not want to offend you with this remark). The US needs people like you. Best wishes.
The point of the article is about how a thing as unseemly as a beard is a sign of Muslim seperation, and the meaning of that seperation.
If all Republican men started growing handlebar mustaches, perhaps you would make the connection?
Suggestions that we nuke Muslim holy sites go too far. A simpler approach, which would achieve remarkable results, would be to spray or soak Muslim holy sites with pig blood. Large amounts, to cover large areas, could be dropped by tanker planes. More localized and more precisely targeted sites could be sprayed by crop-duster planes. The nuclear solution should be saved for more serious situations.
People like you disgust me, utterly, down to my core. I’ll bet you wanted to join Terry Jones in burning Qurans?
Who else wants to have their most sacred beliefs lit aflame by ignorant, discriminatory dolts? Come on..it’ll be fun, for you AND the rest of the nation!
It kills me that people claim ethics and morality and then go and disrespect anyone “different” with the deepest level of rudeness…
I sympathize with those unable to get past the psychological block in their mind that they placed in themselves to keep tolerance from overcoming them.
You demand tolerance, yet your religion permits none towards nonbelievers. You say we discriminate against “anyone different”. Actually, you are quite incorrect. I specifically only discriminate against one group of “different” people. There is a specific reason for this, it is that Islam is intolerant of nonbelievers, is antithetical to our Constitution, and subjugates individuals, with its primary subjugation target being women. That is incompatible with our political traditions in this country. It is seditious, when you get down to it.
I don’t give a whit about the emotions you use to defend your beliefs. I care about facts and the facts about Islam are not compatible with our culture, Constitutions, or western way of life. Islam is against freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and demands hegemony. All of those things are seditious and against the Constitution’s 1st Amendment. As an American, you ought to be ashamed of yourself for not knowing that.
You are free to practice your religion, but as soon as you start pushing Sharia and submission, you’re violating the Constitution. You have to demand Sharia because the Quaran requires it. You really ought to think about living somewhere else if you believe in the tenants of Islam, you won’t be so conflicted by the requirements of our society vs the absolutism of Islam. There are lots of countries you could move to and be free of our inferior beliefs.
“Muhammad, as recorded in the hadith… [advocated] deception and all sorts of other practices antithetical to Western notions of piety.”
Correction: Not just Western notions of piety.
Honesty, compassion, fairness, loyalty, pursuit of truth, etc., are UNIVERSAL notions of piety — in all religions around the world, at least the major ones: not only Judaism and Christianity, but Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism and Zoroastrianism. Such things are part of the “Natural Law,” which is called that, precisely because the knowledge of basic good and evil is “hardwired” into human beings, and in normal human development, they form part of one’s conscience. To convince humans that murder, rape, torture, theft, deceit and disloyalty are VIRTUES, as Muhammad did, you must work actively to brainwash people and squelch their natural consciences.
The reason all other major religions subscribe to essentially the same basic moral values, is because they respect the natural law, as any religion worthy of the name does. Islam, however, is NOT a real religion, but rather a fanatical cult that somehow escaped dying out and self-destructing the way most other cults eventually do.
Hinduism? Really? I hope that you are not a woman.
What was the name of that bloke? You know the one, insane Christian, invaded a couple of countries for no reason, killed tens of thousands of innocent people in an eight year reign of terror, president of America? He was clean shaven. Maybe we should fear all the clean shavens.
Well thank God SOMEONE on this post has a brain.
Ministry of silly hats
Actually, Muhammad didn’t tell men to have facial hair because he “wanted them to look different from the infidel Christians and Jews.” Men are RECOMMENDED, NOT REQUIRED, to have facial hair because it differentiates between a male and female.
And, um, I’m a Sunni Muslim, and that’s not true that they’re not allowed to cut their beards.
Hijabs, on the other hand, are worn by women for modesty. A woman’s hair is considered a most beautiful/sexiest part of her body, and so is for her husband to enjoy.
The individuals of the world of course are different, which is how we ended up with this terrorism branch of people who thought they’d completely twist everything in Islam to tarnish the name.
By the way, how many of you racist pigs actually READ the Quran before blindly criticizing it?
Terror has no place in Islam. It IS a religion of peace, and thus, OBVIOUSLY exploding various people and places does not fit into it at all!
38% of non-Muslim Americans believe that Islam encourages violence. That’s a high level of ignorance for the “melting pot,” the most powerful country, and especially considering about 21% of the nation is Muslim.
Furthermore, there’s no such thing as Jihad. Anyone who would commit violence like terrorism or war or whatever is not a true Muslim. Like I said, there’s a group of radicals that branched off claiming Islam as their religion though following absolutely nothing in it. Misinterpretations that YOU as one of the discriminatory posters here are making don’t help the truth a bit.
Oh, and I was born in CHICAGO and I’m a teen now. So none of those comments that say “go back where you came from,” “get out of my country,” “illegal immigrant” and “worthless sack” or “towelhead,” “Osama lover” crap, okay? I’ve grown up around enough of that.
You poor brainwashed little thing. Where do I begin? There is so much to refute in your post. I won’t be able to touch on everything.
A woman’s hair is not a sex organ that should be saved only for her husband. It is your hair and it is part of the gift of individuality given to you by God. Covering it covers your individuality. Covering it is like covering a flower. Whatever you might have been taught, hiding something valuable doesn’t make it more valuable. It doesn’t protect it. A greedy man who hides something beautiful away is doing something wrong by not sharing it.
You were born with all the dignity and honor you will ever have. It is also a gift from God and noone can diminish it. Nothing you can wear can add to it or take away from it.
God also gave you a personality and gifts that are easily the most impressive things about you. You are powerful without a piece of cloth on your head. Your value will be appreciated because of who you are. What you wear can’t make a difference in that.
Finally, Jesus loves you just as you are. You do not have to impress him. He is offering you a free gift. Once you accept it, all the good things that you do afterwards will be acts of gratitude to him for a gift freely given not things done in fear in order to earn your way into heaven.
Some people on this blog have a bad reaction to some scary people. But not everyone here is like that. We do not believe in Islam and we do not like it. But we want Muslim people to fit in better here in America and to adopt better ways of living. You also should listen instead of just reacting emotionally. There are some good ideas around here that you should try to understand.
To everyone else, please don’t flame this girl. She is just a kid. Please talk to her with civility.
I just wanted to amend something I said above. It wasn’t quite right the first time.
“You were born with all the dignity and honor you will ever have. It is also a gift from God and noone can diminish it. Nothing you can wear can add to it. No thoughts that someone else has can take away from it.”
Yulduz- I wonder how much of the Koran you have read? Do you understand the differences betweenthe Meccan and Medina verses? Did you have “guidance” while reading it? William Caxton, who first printed the Bible inEnglish was burned at the stake for his pains. Religious authorities never want people to think for themselves. I worked for the last ten years with Muslim youth, and the hardening of their attitudes drove me to early retirement. Ask yourself – if it’s a question of interpretation, why do so many Muslims “misinterpret” their religion. Muslims often say translations are inaccurate, and that one must master Arabic to truly understand it. Why would god deliver a scripture in a language so limited? The Arabic of the Koran is one thAt was never actually spoken, like the Latin of Cicero. Myself, I’m an atheist born Catholic, and I would ask you – and others on this thread to consider the possibility that your religion is simply an inheritance, not conviction.
Your name seems possibly Turkish. Are you happy with developments there? Looking back at the overwhelming religiosity of my Muslim students, I ask you, a teen, why don’t you just have some fun? As for”racism,” bad manners are bad manners, but you. Might ask yourself honestly why so many are hostile to Islam. What race is Islam, anyway. Finally, good luck to you. I hope you grow older in A world less difficult than this one.
William Caxton died of natural causes as far as I’m aware. Perhaps you mean John Wycliffe, one of the first to translate the Bible into English? He died of a stroke but was later exhumed and his body burnt on the orders of Rome.
“…Anyone who would commit violence like terrorism or war or whatever is not a true Muslim…”
There are Roman Catholics like Dipso Donovan at the Catholic League, who insist that German Catholics were innocent of Holocaust crimes because a Catholic can’t be a Nazi. This perverse logic used to fall under the heading of Jesuitry in less politically correct times.
You need a reality check, Yulduz.
A real convinced Catholic could not be a Nazi. Till 1933, Nazis even could not be buried according to the rules of the Catholic Church. However, the Reichskonkordat changed things to a certain extend. The Konkordat allowed the Church to organize her own affairs but in return she should not interfere in state affairs. The Church avoided confrontations because she feared to be identified as an enemy of the state(in 1941, 123 convents had been closed and since 1939 hundreds of priests had been put into KZs. Concerning Islam: Approx. 700 Millions regard Islam as their religion. In the region I live all Turks are shaved and dressed very fashionable. Many Turks have large houses and the German citizenships. Approx. 50 % of Turkish young women cover their hairs. I dislike generalizations and stereotyping. Accusing others to have the wrong religion is not helpful. But we have to insist that all of them have to obey our rules and speak our language. I do not want 700 Million Islamic opponents, 200 Million US citizens are enough.
Their beards look so unsanitary that I wouldn’t blame restaurants from refusing to serve them.
If we would educate Muslims to learn that it was all just a simple mis-interpretation, they would probably stop with so much martyrdom. Just tell them that what they actually get in Heaven after they die is not the supposed “72 virgins”, but it’s actually “ONE SEVENTY-TWO-YEAR OLD VIRGIN.”
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