Why Sarah Palin Fans Feel Betrayed
To be conservative is to be betrayed on a regular basis. You send your kids to a school that tries to slyly indoctrinate them into liberalism, you come home to watch an “unbiased” news show that covers almost every story differently based on whether a Republican or Democrat is involved, and then you try to unwind by watching TV shows that take guarded shots at the values you cherish.
Eventually, election time rolls around and you get two candidates, a Republican and a Democrat, both of whom claim that they want to slash the deficit, oppose gay marriage, and are dead serious about securing the border. Then, when they start governing, you find that the liberals are always lying — but even the Republicans turn out to be fudging on what they believe as often as not. Sun Tzu once said that “all war is deception,” but as far as conservatives are concerned, the same could be said of politics and the media.
This becomes especially frustrating because of the double standard that’s present in politics today. On any given day, a decent conservative can make a single gaffe that ruins his career, while liberals like Ted Kennedy can overcome despicable incidents like Chappaquiddick and emerge unscathed.
Then along came Sarah Palin, whom most conservatives viewed as the lone bright spot of the 2008 campaign. Here’s a woman that many conservatives identify with not only because they believe she really shares their values, but because she is genuinely what so many other politicians pretend to be. She’s a person who got where she is based on merit and she found success without the advantage of being born in the right family, being wealthy, or being given a break because she went to an Ivy League school.
Given the excitement Sarah Palin has generated it isn’t a surprise that liberals hate her, but the amount of venom that has been sent her way is astounding. Even the normal double standard for Democratic and Republican politicians was completely thrown out the window when it came to Sarah Palin during the 2008 campaign. Grotesque attacks on her family, blatantly sexist insults, and a performance standard that was several levels above and beyond what anyone else in politics was supposed to adhere to was applied to her.
Even after the GOP lost the election, the all-out assault on Sarah Palin and her family continued. Why attack a mere governor of Alaska as opposed to Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn, John Boehner, Mitt Romney, or Mike Huckabee? Because Palin managed to generate more enthusiasm amongst conservatives than all of those people combined. Liberals correctly identified Sarah Palin as the biggest danger to them in the entire Republican Party and they’re doing everything they can to eliminate that threat.
But why would the right have it in for Palin? The excessively vicious attacks on Palin from some quarters on the right make people scratch their heads — particularly since her critics claim to agree with her on the issues and so much of their criticism seems to be, at least on its face, completely irrational.
They said Sarah Palin wasn’t experienced enough — but, despite the fact that Obama has been in the White House for six months, he still has less executive experience than Palin. They said Palin spent too much time talking in platitudes — after America elected a man whose campaign primarily consisted of repeating the words “change” and “hope” over and over again. They got upset because Palin was parodied on Saturday Night Live — but what candidate isn’t going to be ripped to pieces on that show?
To many conservatives, those complaints didn’t seem to make sense when the people making them often seemed to give Obama a free pass for the very flaws they seemed to hate so much in Palin. Where did these strange complaints come from? Why were these “conservatives” so spiteful towards Sarah Palin? What was the real reason that John McCain’s own staff was seemingly working 24/7 behind the scenes immediately after the election to sabotage the best thing to happen to the GOP in 2008?
An unspoken assumption was made by many conservatives: Palin is like me and the real problem that Palin’s enemies on the right have with her is that they’re snobs and they don’t accept common people like me in their leadership.
Given the way that conservatives are regularly betrayed and the contempt for them that some Republicans have shown over the last few years, that assessment is probably correct more often than not.
That’s why a lot of conservatives react to criticism of Palin from the right the same way that they react to criticism of Reagan. Granted, Sarah Palin is no Ronald Reagan. But one of the seldom discussed reasons conservatives love Reagan so much is because he was the personification of their principles. This was the man who put what conservatives believed in to the test in the real world and proved the worth of their ideas. An attack on Reagan from the right was not just considered to be a slap at a politician, politician, but was also treated like an assault on the value system of “Reagan conservatives.”
The same principle applies to Palin except the assault is considered to be primarily on people’s identity, not their values. The thinking goes, “If the snobs on the right don’t like Palin because she’s a conservative with an accent who isn’t rich, didn’t go to an Ivy League school, and wouldn’t be welcome at their cocktail parties, then they wouldn’t like me for the exact same reasons.”
That doesn’t mean Sarah Palin can’t be criticized from the right or that all of her critics have bad motives. Palin certainly can and should be knocked, if and when she deserves it.
Her well-meaning critics on the right should just be aware of the dynamic at work here and should tailor their criticism accordingly.
There’s only one Sarah Palin and there’s not another soul on the national stage who can even come close to filling her high heels. At a time when the Republican Party has lost so many seats in Congress that it’s teetering on the brink of irrelevancy, Palin’s detractors on the right should ask themselves how much sense it makes to help the liberal media try to tear down the biggest star in the conservative movement.
Spot on. Except, in our school district, liberal indoctrination is blatant.
Excellent points, all of them.
And that’s why the Republican party will never get another dime out of me.
Sarah Palin = Dan Quayle = G W Bush = Joe the plumber = Glenn Beck = Bill O’Reilly = Rush Limbo = Ann Coulter = Peggy Bundy
I feel betrayed because she doesn’t twitter anymore
“Why Sarah Palin Fans Feel Betrayed”
The “Republicans” who have sniped at her have already demonstrated they are part of the problem and not the solution.
I’ll feel betrayed (by her) if she doesn’t maneuver for the greatest possible influence over the party.
Yours, TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp
Ann Coulter put it best when commenting on yet another Biden gaffe, “And they said Palin couldn’t do this job!”
I will not support or vote for the Rep party again if Sarah Palin is not a major leader in that party. And I do not care what the intellectuals on the right in the MSM think or write.
I had never donated to a political campaign. Sarah Palin struck me as the one person in politics that has an actual understanding of what living in the United States means. I sent a check, the day AFTER she resigned from the Alaskan governorship, to SarahPac. Everyday I hope that more Americans recognize what I see in Mrs. Palin and her family. America needs people, not just politicians, but people like Sarah.
The misogyny swirling around this woman is deplorable. Democrats are vile and disgusting when speaking about her. Her Republican enemies are no help either. They are part of the good old boys club. They need to go. She is the voice of the Independent voter. Don’t believe me? Just wait when she cleans house.
If she decides to do a “Playboy” spread to counter the hypocrisy and infidelities of the “conservative” male’s ethic and values….then I’m gonna feel really betrayed.
One of the dirty little secrets that’s circled the cuckoo’s nest of sucker punches thrown at Sarah Palin since day one is that many of them originate from women on the right who, for whatever the reason cannot stand another woman that is attractive, successful and married to something besides an impotent girlie boy like the one that sleeps on their couch.
On another level, Sarah Palin’s abundance of conservative and personality positives are also her own worst enemies.
People instinctively know that whoever the Republican Party chooses for it’s candidate this time around has to be someone that they have no doubt can win at the fist city level of gutter politics Obama and crew live at.
Sarah Palin is not that person. But neither are any of the more prominent candidates that are currently on the horizon for 2012.
Were these things not true Obama, his administration and the Democrat Congress would already be history with a confident, strong force of staunch Conservative Republicans ready to take over and clean up the sickening mess they have made of our country.
The Right these days does indeed seem to have a penchant for “eating their own.”
Destructive.
Recognizing that is the first part of putting it aside.
I suppose part of it has to do with being scathed in the House, Senate and White House last year.
Yet, somehow there has to begin – and soon – a coalescing towards 2010 and 2012.
Not only Palin has been betrayed, but we who supported the GOP have been betrayed as well. The 1994 Contract with America has been abandoned almost lock, stock and barrel by RINOS and people who were outright crooks and perverts. Many simply could not understand that the Democratic Party of yore has been taken over by far-left ideologues and hucksters who crave power by any means necessary, and to whom compromise is a one way street. You also have an elitist mentality that can’t stand her because she is “of the people” and not of the Beltway.
Sir:
Thank you for these comments. Here are some thoughts.
Even if she is never a serious candidate for President or Vice President, conservatives need Sarah Palin to “draw fire” from both the left and the right. Why? This is the best way to identify those cowards who we need to go after. Of course we expect the liberal left to attack her and so much the better since their attacks typically go over the top and expose them for the phony liberal bots that they are. The more subtle and more difficult enemy we have today is from “within” the republican party itself. I would liken them to a “trojen horse” in our midst. Take Colin Powell for example. Here is a guy who calls himself a republican yet he cannot articualte one conservative value that he stands for. Too bad the media won’t deconstruct his speeches over the years but suffice it to say that he is all over the map, incoherent, and confused as to what it means to be conservative. More importantly however is that at the most inopportune time during the last presidential race, he breaks in favor of the most radical, phony leftist, community organizer for the highest office in the land. Oh and did I mention that the candidate was black? Powell revealed himself to be a light weighted phony. Good riddence if he leaves the Republican party. Of course he can be a RINO, except that he will NEVER be trusted again. That was his choice mind you.
There are many such people in the republican party who need to migrate to the other side if they don’t like our champions like Sarah. Lets watch them as they reveal themselves and show them the door.
I feel that conservatives are making a come back. Not by creating a “big tent” but by supporting and articulating winning ideas. Gosh does this remind us of a great man?
Keep up the good work.
Tommy Gunn
There is no more dynamic force in American politics than enthusiasm. Reagan generated it. Clinton had it early on. Bush 43 had it for much of his war-time presidency. Obama has it, and it is the only thing he has left (among his true believers.)
Palin had it in ’08 and still has it. The fact that Republican elites may squander it is to their shame and our continued suffering.
Great column, the backstabbing by Vichy Republicans is probably what makes me the most angry. This is especially true of the anonymous McCain staffers who try to blame the failure of their Keystone Kops-style campaign on her, the only bright spot.
I was hoping she would run in 2012, but I think now that she might be more of a force helping the campaigns of other conservatives.
I haven’t heard anything about Red State’s Project Leper in a while. They need to reactivate it.
But why would the right have it in for Palin?
Because at the leadership level there is no discernible difference between the two parties.
I am a conservative, not a Republican. I will not give money to the RNC so that it can be spent to re-elect non-conservatives such as Lindsey Graham.
I feel betrayed by the Republicans also.
Sarah Palin believes in the Constitution and our founding principles and is actually willing to defend them. That puts her light years ahead of her critics.
I’ll throw in with Sarah. Screw the elitist prima donnas.
If you want to get rid of the RINOs, start local. Go to the meetings, run for school board and other little offices. Educate your self on how to operate our Republic. Grow you power and chase off the RINOs.
Sarah Palin must be the biggest threat to the establishment that ever walked the face of the earth. Why do I say that? Because why would anybody bother with such a destructive campaign against her if she was the nobody and dimwit they all say she is.
Must be something to the lady given the incredible smear campaign against her.
When it comes to DC politicians and the elites who feed off them, “this thing of ours” trumps party and country every time. The fear of Sarah Palin’s reformist credentials transcend party lines.
The mainstream GOP are not conservatives. If we ever had any doubt, this clears this up.
I got an email from Obama, on White House stationery (!), telling me how great his healthcare package was. [snort] How are we going to fight any of this mess through politics? The healthcare bill, on page 59, calls for Federal real-time access to all personal bank accounts! What if this is passed while we sleep tonight? Then where will donations to Sarah’s pac come from? I can’t stand the ham-fisted way all this crap is being shoved down our throats!
Call your reps and senators now and call them often or we are past the point of no return by the end of summer! Talking about elections a couple of years off is moot.
Want to get rid of the RINOS… quit sending any money to the RNC. Instead identify the conservative, or in my case conservative candidates nationally and send your funds directly to them.
Sarah Palin is me. I also think Sarah Palin is the next Reagan. She is the future of the conservative movement and the Republicans better get on board if tney know what is good for them.
Oh, and vivo = live at home unemployed mamas boy
If the Republican party were really conservative, Sarah Palin, Col. Allen West and John Bolton would all be far more prominent in it than they are now.
Republicans are no longer conservative. They’re Democrats-lite. And, just like the Democrats, they prefer those who went to Ivy League schools, attend the “right” clubs, social events, etc., and who vacation in the “right” spots (preferably, Martha’s Vineyard, or someplace in Nantucket.)
Republicans, and Democrats, these days, are a pack of elitists; we really don’t have two parties anymore.
Tomorrow I head to the Ohio 10th Amendment Party outside the statehouse in Columbus.
I’ll be wearing my C4P shirt (“We’ve got your back, Guv!”), my “Don’t Tread on Me” flag as a cape, and my mounted poster of Sarah Palin.
Sarah Palin is the ONLY exciting national figure that is a western libertarian/conservative whose beliefs overlap heavily with the principles of the Tea Part Movement.
Sarah Palin IS the 10th Amendment!
F**k the GOP forever, or at least those in the GOP who just want to continue to drift the country to the left and be DemLite.
I agree totally with Fantom. Until we start putting our money behind people and not organization (e.g. RNC), good citizens like Sarah are going to be shot down at every turn.
Palin/Rubio 2012
or
Palin/Petraeus 2012
or
Palin/Cheney(Liz) 2012
I can’t think of any other combos that would work unless she picked Mitt for her VP to ‘unite’ the party.
God the GOP is so messed up. They have a perfect candidate and Obama is messing up and they are gonna blow it because they refuse to unite the main Reagan camps.
Lindsey Graham is just RINO s**t.
Hey vivo get back to work, the french fry machine is empty. If I catch you on the company computer again, I’ll call your probation officer and get your work release revoked.
Yes. Because it’s really tragic when one reports on or comments about the stupid things Palin said and the stupid things Palin did.
On why folks may “have it in for her”: She is just plain stupid, dontcha know? And she is the champion of the Rush Limbaugh segment of the US, wich if you step outside the echochambers of blogs like these are not popular, and are increasingly being seen as *crazy* by the majority after the Iraq war.
Also: “There are many such people in the republican party who need to migrate to the other side if they don’t like our champions like Sarah.”
Umm, newsflash: Elections are not won in single combat, champion vs. champion. Its won in elections. Good luck with rallying USA behind Palin, or any other hardcore social conservative agenda, like making abortion illegal or gay marriage. Its a nowinner. Dead. As is her career, thank Krishna.
There aren’t many like Sarah Palin still about on the planet willing to play inside the morass of deadly wheeling & dealing of contemporary politics.
Such individuals stand between this country being what it was conceived to be and this country becoming what Barack & friends want to turn it into, which is exactly why the opposition has gone after her tooth & claw & tried to destroy her.
Palin is at her best when she hands it back in spades, with humor, rather than bemoaning the vicious and absurd treatment she & her family have been subject to.
I hope she stays in the game. The Republic needs such people for its survival, as, these days, you can almost count courageous and honorable people left in politics on the fingers of one hand.
Alot of the back stabbing from the right was reported from the left and turned out to be fiction.
One of the things I see as Palin was standing alone to fight the accusations in alaska is that she must not be “connected” to the big money politics. That is what we need in the whitehouse.
We need to start by cleaning out congress in 2010
For all his zaniness, Beck seems to be on to something when he is describing both the left and right-GOP as being the same. They are both progressive. And Ms. Palin is a conservative therefore she needs Alinsky’s Seventh rule #13 applied to her.
She and her family stand for all that is good about America and they must be defeated. The progressives use direct and GOP indirect attacks on her. And we let it happen. Where are our “men” in Congress and the Senate standing up for her??? She needs an independent army-much like America needs an army of Americans to rid ourselves of this cancer called Progressivism.
3. vivo bleats:
“Sarah Palin = Dan Quayle = G W Bush = Joe the plumber = Glenn Beck = Bill O’Reilly = Rush Limbo = Ann Coulter = Peggy Bundy”
vivo == “The Boy King” Obama == “Plugs” Biden == Bawney Fwank == Nawncey “Botox Bitch” Pelosi == Harry “Cadaver” Reid == Charley Rangle == ignorant sack of crap clueless liberal
The right wing has a tendency toward overstatement, and it’s never been on display more than with Sarah Palin. As has been reported, her vaunted media opportunities may be less than imagined. It’s bad news when Clear Channel, that bastion of conservative talk radio, takes a pass on “the most important person in the Republican party.” Seems Clear Channel is convinced that Ms. Palin doesn’t have what it takes to hold forth for hours every day on your AM dial. And they’re right. She didn’t have what it takes to deliver four years as governor, now it seems she can’t handle four hours either.
She’s famous for being famous, just like Paris Hilton. Sorry, but she’s peaked already. She has nothing new to add. Don’t you find it odd that she never actually speaks to anybody other than Greta Van Susteren? She can’t handle even the simplest confrontations or questions. She’s reduced to writing oddball tweets. You want her, you can have her. I’ll take Al Franken. Now that’s a debate I’d like to see.
I went to a tea party supported gathering last night of Business owners in our town. The small business owners are now starting to come out of the wood work. The message was crystal clear, the current crop of republicans have stubs us all in the back. Every single one of the politicians in Washington and at the local levels must all be thrown out.
Sarah does speak to the everyday people and the political hack know it. They better start packing their bags as a real storm is brewing…
Watch the national polls.
The same 28% always is on one side, and 72% is on the other side (of any conservative vs liberal question) even if it is segmented and spread out, it is against the 28%.
How does this show that being “strictly conservative” is ever going to build a successful Republican party that can win nationally and specifically the White House?
What is the joy in being “right” (literally) but becoming irrelevant and unable to wield influence in society and our politics, due to being unable to compromise on any issue?
Democracy protects the rights of the minority, but it is still majority rule.
The ability to inspire and persuade to a cause is a lot different than the current tone of those on the conservative bandwagon, including Sarah Palin. Leadership does not whine, lie, hate, and insist their opposition is simply “evil.” Leadership is articulate. Reagan was articulate.
What is all this angst for “common people?” Leaders are those we can look up to, not just those who are familiar.
Unless one lives in a tribal society, that is, where one only trusts their blood relatives.
Seems that is the direction hard core conservatives are now headed.
I agree – no more donations to the GOP – I’m only giving to Sarah and conservative candidates. This country needs more Sarah Palins!! May we survive the next 3 years – God help us – Please pray for our country!!
“reports on or comments about the stupid things Palin said and the stupid things Palin did.”
Examples please…oh, and not the debunked lib memes, like the “Africa is a country”, or “seeing Russia from her house”. I want REAL examples of stupidity. And explain why they’re stupid (not just because you disagree with her conservative ideology).
And finally, try to make sure your examples are more blatant than Obama or Biden’s verbal diahrea and cerebral pratfalls.
Good luck with that.
Sarah Palin said she was a pit bull with lipstick, and then quit under fire. She let us down, and has no future in elective politics.
..man, the looney left trolls are sure out in force this morning. fnord, vivo, and Left-Brain diarrheaist must have gotten their end-of-month stipends from the Soros/Acorn folks. either that or they are scared as hell about their boy, the Condescending-Pr!ck-in-Chief’s ratings tanking after his beer blast with the affirmative-action prof and “plugs” yesterday.
You guys and your prez are among the truly pathetic of this earth.
One of the only things the McCain group did correctly was to bring Sarah Palin to the forefront of Americans in the lower 48. Their ineptness at handling the campaign was glaring, and in the end they simply allowed her to be used as a scapegoat.
When McCain locked up the Republican nomination, it was a foregone conclusion that Obama would win. NOBODY could’ve saved McCain’s campaign.
Good luck Sarah Palin. Many of us admire you and want you to succeed in the future.
Silly me. I thought this article would be about how Palin’s fans had been betrayed by Palin herself. Her odd resignation in the middle of her term. Her hypocracy in denigrating socialism while personally increasing taxes on oil companies in order to send checks to all Alaskan citizens. Her constant back and forthing on whether she’ll attend events. I’m from a lower middle class family, and my mother still taught me better manners than that.
I state without hesitancy that I am behind, under and supportive of Sarah. There is a phrase: “He went out, not knowing where he was going” (paraphrased). The point is “He went out”, he took a step, he moved – not frozen in a stance, but pliable. And to make a change, alter a course, without knowing – takes even more courage. How many of us say, give me the whole picture, map it out, lock it down – and without that, stay locked in that ditch that becomes a grave. She did the right thing. Get up, get out, make the changes, alter course. “David RAN toward Goliath…” The path that she was on, had become destructive. Better to change ships, than bail, and bail, and bail, and bail…
The GOP: party of whiny-ass victims.
Delicious.
ssomers: What??
Holsinger: Just wait! If you cannot grasp why she resigned then you are either an ideologue or just intellectually dishonest-respectfully. If she herself stays away, she will once again wake up the American public and support a conservative who will lead America.
She let you down, #42 ? Are you a resident of Alaska ?
You don’t believe that the flurry of nuisance lawsuits were costly & time consuming ? You don’t believe Palin when she says that resources, both personal and state, were being mindlessly consumed in the costs of defending against them or that, since she’d become polarizing, she viewed her resignation as best for the state ?
Now she can unleash her energy & appeal on behalf of the larger country. I think, at last check, her speeches draw about a million times more people than Joe Biden’s (ok, I may exaggerate slightly
)
The Democrats, as is well known, never whine about anything, no, not even when lower life forms dare criticize The One—dissent not being the highest form of patriotism anymore.
/Sarc.
‘Why Sarah Palin Fans Feel Betrayed?’
There is nobody, democrat & republican alike, who is really Pro-Life in words and deeds. Liar-in-Chief could not get congress to pass FOCA, now Liar-in-Chief will use all his power to pass Obamacare so the government can pay for all abortions on demand. Jeeeeeeez.
50. BettyBlue:
“To be conservative is to be betrayed on a regular basis.”
’nuff sed
As the Republican blueblods and national leadership joined in/stood by with the continuing attacks after she resigned the governorship, I found it kind of settling for myself.
They have told me something about themselves that I didn’t know before.
They have told me that my sense during the campaign that they really didn’t like her as a candidate (for anything) was accurate.
They have now clearly told me that my reaction to their barely concealed disdain for my life and my convictions was not a matter of “being easily offended” on my part, but was an accurate evaluation of who they are.
The lines are being more clearly drawn.
There are Democrats today who are bailing on the left. There are Independents who are recovering from their 2008 emotionally-induced hangover. And there are tons of Republicans who are seeing the lines drawn by the Republican leadership, all to the left of most Republican Conservatives.
So: does this mean that the stars may actually finally be aligning for an ACTUAL third party, which would drawn from all across the spectrum with the core being constitutional-republic-oriented Americans?
Not Democrat-light or Republican-light or Conservative-light–but America Heavy.
Sarah Palin seems to be making plain these days that she’s an American first and not so concerned with labels as with heart and heritage. Works for me.
Our resident trolls’ namecalling and mudthrowing continue to confirm the significance of Mrs. Palin’s cheerful presence and clearly spoken convictions.
This is a clear reason to put an end to the two party system in this country. People choose to call Palin stupid but they cannot quantify their accusations. The thing about Sarah Palin is that she is America. she is a hard working family oriented person that sticks to her values. The only requirement for office in this country is citizenship yet we have made it the standard to place Ivy league bureaucrats in office as if we believe that this education makes them smarter than we are or better than we are. These people have everything going for them except for the two qualities that Palin possesses alongside many other great and successful Americans throughout history; Integrity and good sense.
There is a reason that the founding fathers originally gave the vote to wealthy land owners and lawyers, etc. It is not because they were smarter or better than everyone else, it was because they had something to lose. The founding fathers weren’t great because they were wealthy or educated, they were great because they were willing to sacrifice all of that which they had for liberty and the common good. Politicians today spend their careers protecting what they have rather than protecting the people and Sarah Palin is the antithesis of that. The choices she has made in her career were founded in the basis of protecting the people she represents, not protecting herself and making herself rich. This is reflected in her resignation from office. She could have collected a paycheck, she could have sold her decisions to the highest bidding special interest groups to make herself wealthy, but instead when when all of the false accusations of ethics violations and attacks got in the way of her performing her duties, she stepped out of the way so that the business of running the state could be done. She chose not to be an obstacle. That is integrity.
A Americans we need to start making smarter choices when electing officials. I don’t care if you went to college, I don’t care if you have big money. I want to see that you stand for what I believe in, that you practice what you preach on the campaign trail. Palin got to where she was because she embodied the principles that mainstream America embrace, and she delivered on the promises she made. She helped people to become more independent instead of more dependent. This is America, We The People decide what we are entitled to, not the government. We have the freedom to decide if we will be successful by working hard to achieve our aspirations, or not. We used to have the freedom to determine our own standard of living.
Our government has worked hard to take those choices out of our hands on the premise of protecting us from ourselves. This is a trend that must be stopped. The only way we can do this is by electing people that both respect the Constitution and understand what it is like to live every day as an American that is not a part of the privileged class.
False assumption: Your article talks as is if there is a deference between Republicans and Democrats. Not so. They are part of the same ruling class.
Sarah Palin is not one of them. Remember what Palin did to get elected? She got rid of the conservative Republicans in that good old boy network that was fleecing the state. She is an outsider. She is not one of them. And now this is now nothing less than payback on the part of the old Republican guard for ousting some of their friends.
Why was she picked to be the Vice-President candidate? Because they thought she was an empty-headed looser that would do nothing for McCain’s campaign. They were wrong and her speech was by far one of the best I have seen in my lifetime. It sent shivers down their spine. She had charisma, and there were no fake fainting spells in the audience. People liked her. The media knew it and they went bonkers.
The very next day the attacks came out in a deluge. Obama’s resume was a blank sheet yet Sarah was a know nothing hick from the tiny state of Alaska. The McCAin appointed handlers immediately put her into seclusion and thought of ways to make her look bad. They, with malice of forethought, feed her like raw meet unprepared for Couric and that other guy, you know the one who spent all his time looking down his nose at her.
The media created the McCain candidacy. The New York Times claimed he was the front runner after New Hampshire. The standard news outlet claim he was the Maverick the Republicans needed. He was chosen by the left because they knew he would fail, after all they had smeared all of the other candidates. Did we not learn that certain members of his staff were Obama supporters? Did he not have to rid a half dozen of them?. It tells you how rigged our elections really are.
Republicans and Democrats. It really is only one party. Evidence. Look what they just put on the Supreme Court.
What is the joy in being “right” (literally) but becoming irrelevant and unable to wield influence in society and our politics, due to being unable to compromise on any issue?
There is nothing about contemporary democrats or the so called wonderful-ness of compromise that I would ever want to adopt or emulate. See the contemporary crowd of democrat leaders, so well characterized by #36 above. That crop of self-serving nutcases may be attempting to make some very screwy & insane policy, but I would hardly call that “influence”.
So-called winning through compromising principles is meaningless. Adopting the democrat game of promising free lunches to sundry identity groups, blacks, hispanics et al. and etc., equally vapid and meaningless.
It is a good read, below is a link to her PAC. Consider donating if only to piss off the left, and elitist repubs.
60 million , the Real Americans, voted against The One last year.. many because of the excitement and honesty that Palin brought to the campaign. If half of us sent $10.00 now that would be 300 million, almost half what the boy blunder in the White House raised from his corrupt/illegal sources.
Lets send it and see what Palin does with it. If she shakes things up.. wonderful. And more can be sent. Imagine the air time it would buy…. and how that would push the left and elitist repubs over the edge.
I sent mine.
http://www.sarahpac.com/landing/?cdtrack_creative=9df74b6d-be24-4a77-8294-b45618d96e40&cdtrack_source=6766ecf9-5d7e-4988-ba24-e120e6fe0873
You might call this a case of certain members of the GOP outing themselves. We will remember.
So you think it can’t get much worse, Buckey?
Just look how fast we got to where we are now. We went from Ronald Reagan to Obama and his haters in 20 years and the decline in values, morals and common sense is like a snowball rolling down a mountain. It has momentum and its speeding up.
The economy is not coming back. Food shortages, plague and war are just around the corner. They will come to you soon and demand that you take a computer chip in your hand to buy and sell and that you swear loyalty and obedience to ‘the system’. (whatever that turns out to be)
We who refuse will be exterminated. You can read about the Last Days in the Bible.
I was wondering which of our malevolent bottom feeding leftist trolls would take inane pot shots. I see a couple. I am sure more are forthcoming. But, as usual, those comments really just show the shallowness or the poster.
Sarah fans deserved to feel betrayed and upset, they are small minded dimwits who want someone as stupid and narrow minded as they are running this country. Sort of like reverse snobbery, they take pride in being ignorant and petty. But this is the kind of screed I expect from a guy who runs what, RedneckNews
This well written and well argued piece is also quite trollogenic, and this is not a coincidence. The virulence of the detractors is a measure of the value of the work, and the same applies to Sarah Palin. She would not be the focus of so many vicious attacks if she were not such a political powerhouse.
The tea parties have wisely kept their distances from various politicians hoping to hitch their waggon to the movement. As long as Sarah Palin is neither a public official nor a candidate, she may be quite welcome as a leader of those who want their America back. I would not be surprised if she was appealing to conservative democrats, and as such could reach the same audience as Ronald Reagan did.
As it were, she promoted herself to the rank of private citizen, in which she can freely operate for years before running for office again. She can write books, give speeches, and support those candidates who have the guts to carry the water for the majority of Americans.
King maker from the sidelines? That’s innovation!
60. Dave:
Your overuse of hyperbolic adjectives exposes the weakness of your position. &c.
John, you are so right. Sarah Palin is the closest English speaking law maker whose politics is right of centre, to come to the standard bearer, who is Daniel hannan.
All the rest are left in the dust, and they know it, and they don’t like it. And that is multiplied many fold for the
wordsmiths who identify with them.
For Daniel Hannan represents change that would see their influence diminish, because more people would engage in wiki-
politics.
Whatever Palin has that brings out the worst in the left/right elite has got to be good for the national perpetual debate. When she can cause David Letterman and Peggy Noonan to both ‘go all smirky, just about obscene’ must be a stimulus that works. Women with guns who know how to use them has to upset the sheeple.
Sarah and her supporters were betrayed by the RNC during and right after the election. We got it. Now we send our RNC donation envelopes back empty. We send money to SarahPAC without being solicited. Our numbers grow every day. In a few years the RNC might figure it out.
When the attacks on Sarah Palin from Republicans began, during the campaign, I wrote a letter to Mike Duncan, then Chairman of the RNC and demanded that he and other prominent Republicans stand up and defend this wonderful conservative woman. I received no reply from a party I supported and contributed to for the last 32 years. I am just like Sarah Palin and I am appalled and outraged that our own part would not stand up for this fantastic member of our party.
In retrospect, I recall Ronald Reagan got much the same treatment from the party elites. Now Reagan is their hero, but back then they looked down their noses at him.
The lesson to be learned here is this; the party elites are a bunch of anal-retentive, out-of-touch incompetents and we shouldn’t waste our time listening to their opinions. Peggy Noonan (a former Reagan Administration speech writer, for crying out loud) et al, can go suck an egg!
42. Tom Holsinger:
“Sarah Palin said she was a pit bull with lipstick, and then quit under fire. She let us down, and has no future in elective politics.”
Tom, if you were racking up legal debt to the tune of half a million dollars which could bankrupt your family, spending more time fighting law suits than doing your job, what would be your response?
Would you continue on as Governor sacrificing your family’s economic future or indenturing yourself to the wealthy groups who paid your legal fees? Would you continue on as an ineffective Governor because you’re spending more time and energy fighting frivolous lawsuits than doing what you were elected to do which would most assuredly destroy anything you’ve accomplished in the past?
Yes she quit, and at first I was disappointed she did but further investigation leads me to understand her reasons. She choose her family’s and her state’s well being over her own political position, and that I cannot fault anyone for doing.
I see the attacks on Palin from the left as political infanticide. They say she is dumb and incompetent, but that is because they realize that she is their biggest threat. What better time to destroy her career than when it is in its fragile early stages?
The attacks from the right are a bit bewildering, but probably have the same motive in mind. As I understand it, from the point of view of an entrenched republican in Washington, the only thing worse than a democratic majority is a change in the status quo. The insiders thrive on the current system. The last thing they need is a true outsider purging their precious system.
Absolutely Scott, I agree completely. This woman has a husband, 5 children and a grandchild to think about. The best defense is to amass some personal net worth with which to insulate herself and her family with. You cannot do that as a sitting governor.
She will be our next President, I feel it in my bones.
And whoever said women in our party are jealous of her because she’s attractive is full of baloney. We’re her stauchest supporters.
I identify with Palin as an independent conservative. She does indeed personifies the common man. She’s not perfect, she has her weaknesses and flaws and she never put herself out there as some saviour or messiah. She’s just a hard working pta mom who got involved and it led her to the VP nomination. I have no idea what she’ll do next, but if things keep on the way they are now, she can become the nations first female nominee & president (if that is what she really wants).
Yes we feel betrayed by a party that doesn’t live up to it’s stated values. whether it is marital fidelity (Ensign, Sanford)soundbudgeting
(too many to consider) defense of our soldiers and sailors, concessions to Obama on the ‘public
option’, cap n trade, surrender of any
opportunity. She challenged the local business and political establishments and consequently
the national establishments in both parties felt threatened. Many of those who fervently spoke out against her, or sabotaged her behind the scenes, were party to many of the financial,
corporate frauds that led to this economic crisis. Consequently, they spend so much time denigrating her and by extension her followers, but they do not challenge Obama with the smallest fraction of this effort
I see the attacks on Palin from the left as political infanticide.
Couldn’t agree more.
Hey Bullpuppy Blinketyblarney.
Go back to Kos where you belong. Or won’t Soros pay you your stipend until you have left X number of your smelly droppings where you’re not wanted?
To Horace Wells:
Now in all honesty & open disclosure, would you please describe for us the magnanimous attributes of the average Obama supporter and why he (Obama) is far superior to all politicians that walk the earth and why we should drop everything and wander after him, eyes a glazed.
The Democrats AND the Republicans are two sides of the same globalist, anti-American coin. Sarah Palin should dump the Republican party and run as an independent conservative in 2012.
If Governor Sarah Palin had been President since last January, and had conducted herself in the same manner as Barrack Obama, it would be taken as sure evidence of her ignorance and stupidity. Can anyone really imagine Palin abdicating responsibility for the formulation of the so-called ‘stimulus package’ to a Congresional clique, who promptly corrupted it content and purpose? Can anyone imagine a President Palin approaching heathcare reform in the hopelessly inept way that has happened? If a President Palin had conducted press conferences in the manner of those of Obama in recent weeks, it would be taken as evidence that she was totally out of her depth. Can anyone imagine a President Palin ‘talking the talk’ on bipartisanship, while sabotaging the reality at every turn. Proof? Simply examine her programme of action in her first 16 months of office as Governor of Alaska, from January 2007 to April 2008, during which she delivered on all her promices. Alaska is now one of the few state in a fiscally sound, is not in recession and is growing jobs.
74. geokstr:
Overlord Soros is a harsh taskmaster, yes, but he pays by the dropping.
I think the article is right on. Sarah Palin is like us common folk who need to take this country back before it is too late. Who better than a woman that started out on the PTA and ends up being a Governor of a state and then a candidate for Vice President. I would vote for her in a heartbeat. I’m concerned more about a person’s values than what magazines she reads. I’m sick of politics as usual. And I’m tired of the Republican Party who has lost it’s back bone and is now not the party of Ronald Reagan.
Y’know, I can’t help but wonder why Palin won’t release her birth certificate or school records. What is she hiding?
PAGING ORLY TAITZ
PAGING ORLY TAITZ
A woman who believes in witchcraft, who can not string together a coherent sentence, who was not ready for the vice-president office by ANY stretch of the imagination, wants pity?
She will get none from me. Her backwards views on sex education amongst her multiple flaws bring discredit to the Republican party.
Shame on your Sarah Palin and shame on you John McCain for making me ask the question “What does he take me for?” by inviting that woman to be your VP.
Palin claims to have been born in “Sandpoint, Idaho” on February 11, 1964, but there’s no proof of that.
She also claims to have graduated from the “University of Idaho” but there’s no proof of that, or any record of anything she did there or what her grades were.
How can you support someone about whom so little is known?
I actually feel sorry for you guys. Some day you are going to wake up and see that your idol has feet of clay. But to respond to some of your points.
First, there is no reason Palin could not have fulfilled her commitment to complete her term and then begin working to change the system from the outside. 16 months wouldn’t have been that long to wait. She is now the only U.S. governor in history to fail to complete her term without a reason, such as moving to higher office, having medical issues, or being involved in a scandal.
Second, the state has not spent millions investigating ethics claims. As of June, the total was slightly less than $300,000, of which over $180,000 was for the case she instigated against herself. Alaska Daily News (www.adn.com), a longtime supporter of Palin, concurs.
Third, she is hardly going bankrupt. According to her supporter, John Coale, the legal fees have already been paid. In addition, she is receiving millions for her book deal. If that is going bankrupt, then sign me up.
Amelia, we don’t need your pity. Save it for yourself. The pain and misery is only going to escalate under the Obama Administration and Democratic Congress.
Do you remember the scene in the movie “Terms of Endearment” where Emma (Debra Winger) went to New York having terminal cancer? The women in the scene did not like her, and were snobby during her lunch date as she ate with them? The Media and the snobs are treating Sarah the same way Emma was treated. She is real and genuine like the character Emma and they all hate her for it. She is a real woman and a lot like the characters, Debra Winger played in the 80’s including one of my favorites “An Officer and a Gentleman”.
Where did Debra Winger go? I do not know, but maybe we can keep Sarah around.
Did the same snobs do something to Debra Winger too? I do not know, but I hope Sarah stays and fights back.
America is a very strange society –
the one half gets besotted with Palin,
and the other half with Obama.
Gone are the days of the middle-of-the-road stand-up guy (or gal).
“81. Daniel:”
So, Biblical Christianity is “witchcraft” to you? Didn’t realize you have such a warped view of a huge chunk of the American population!
But what about Obama’s Alinsky tactics? Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer (Satan), the “original radical.” Now, THAT’s witchcraft!
As for Sarah, she can do whatever she darned well pleases. Maybe her calling is not politics, but something better.
As for the rest of us, it is becoming painfully clear that those in Washington don’t truly represent us, and that they are governing without our input or consent. The distance from Washington is growing, and when the “breaking point” approaches, there will be no going back. I do predict that eventually, this nation will split apart, with the states with the most resources (Alaska, TX) at the better advantage. It will be then that the Northeastern elites will be sorry they ever called us “rubes.”
Remember that “rubes with pitchforks and guns” rose against Britain back in 1776 and founded a new nation. It has happened before: it can happen again. With or without Sarah.
Are the detractors of Sarah Palin ready to eat their words when what was written about her before August 29, 2008 is read?
Why not ask Bill Kristol as to why he wanted Sarah Palin on the 2008 GOP ticket.
Sarah Palin hasn’t even proven she’s Trig’s mother. All she needs to do is release her medical records but she refuses.
What is she hiding?
My 88-year-old father used to vote Democratic, but has been voting Republican since Reagan. When he got the news about McCain picking Palin for his VP, he asked me in a stricken voice “Does he WANT to lose?” For the first time since Reagan, he had a hard time deciding how to vote. He ended up voting for McCain, but for him Palin was definitely not a feature–she was a bug. Her early resignation from the governorship (where she could have beefed up her executive experience) and her chronic problems with managing appearances have not gained her credibility with him. He would never, ever vote for her in a primary.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I think he represents a significant number of conservative voters.
“87 newton”
“So, Biblical Christianity is “witchcraft” to you?”
That is not what I said Good job on trying to put words in my mouth. You would make an excellent politician. You completely misrepresented my position. Is that a hobby of yours?
I am not talking about her Christian views, which I think she takes too far as well, but the video that is available all over the internet of her partaking in an excorcism by a witchdoctor.
I’m glad that Sarah Palin is still the name that conjures fear in the left. If she was inconsequential as the left claims they would just ignore her. The vitriol still pours out though. I just love the smell of liberal fear in the morning.
This one is truly a prizewinner, Rob:
” People choose to call Palin stupid but they cannot quantify their accusations. The thing about Sarah Palin is that she is America. she is a hard working family oriented person that sticks to her values. The only requirement for office in this country is citizenship yet we have made it the standard to place Ivy league bureaucrats in office as if we believe that this education makes them smarter than we are or better than we are. These people have everything going for them except for the two qualities that Palin possesses alongside many other great and successful Americans throughout history; Integrity and good sense.”
Try to forget that critizising Palin is equal to being an Obama-sucking fascist, and lets take this point by point.
1) In her resignation speech she attributed a quote to Gen. McArthur wich was from general Oliver Prince Smith, the hero of Chosin. Do you want that for a CiC? If youre making the dramatic exit-speech wich will stand for eternity, you fcking check your quotes. Thats stupid. And is just one of many examples.
2) Contrary to popular conception, education is in general life seen as being a good thing. A modern military commander, wich POTUS in fact is, must by necessity have an understanding of the world. Donald Rumsfelds occupation of Iraq is an example of that. Sarah Palin had enormous problems running Alaska, dmn it. If you read why all the alaskan political folks in her own party as well as the dems you will see it comes down to a few general characteristics: Very egofocused and bad with people. Politics is work, dontcha know? Sarah Palin was not very good at it, in praxis.
3) “Integrity and good sense” and the structures founded on those principles created the financial crisis. True conservatism, in my eyes, is a direct disagreement with the idea that conservative politics must necessarily be stupid politics. I have yet to see one side of Sarah Palin that doesnt seem choreographed, structured by her not-so-competent handlers. Tongue-in-cheek: Shes not a pitbull with lipstick, but a not so smart golden retriever with fangs.
Finally: From a military pov (support your troops, remember?) we are now in a pretty important phase in Af/Pak situation, with series of decisions to be made, on a day to day basis for the prez. One thing university does teach you is how to understand complex info-flow situations. So it would seem a good thing to have for a president, as opposed to mrs Palins… errrrm… inability to decide where she will be attending.
“Maybe I’m wrong, but I think he represents a significant number of conservative voters.”
You’re completely wrong. And it amazes me that people repeat this tired left-wing talking point when it is clearly refuted by documented evidence.
After Palin was chosen, McCain went up in the polls. After her acceptance speech they went up in the polls again. Their advantage was so great that people in the media were openly saying that “there was no way” Obama could get elected, and the left-wingers began the talking point of “America just won’t elect a black man”.
But then the Republicans mishandled Palin, locking her off in a room and trying to make her MSM-media-friendly, and dumping her into two of the most aggressive, unfriendly interview situations a political campaign has seen. The left had already begun the attacks (contrary to what the leftists will tell you, the attacks on Palin began the day she was announced and remained about the same timbre of hatred throughout the campaign). With those combative, dishonestly-composited ‘interviews’ and the help of tons of leftists parading as journalists, they just kept stepping up the destructive rhetoric. And the numbers began to slide.
It has been proven that the media gave Biden and Obama favorable coverage. It has been proven that the media took an antagonistic, biased approach to Palin. But still the leftists, and some less-than-savvy Conservatives, want to blame Palin for the whole thing. Could she have done better? Quite possibly, but the reality is that our media machine is not setup for someone like Palin. Our media machine likes composed blandness, and furthers the leftist agenda. It was a mismatch from day one but the responsibility for that falls more on the media than Palin.
The fact is that Palin energized more people than lackluster McCain ever did. She is closer to Conservative values than McCain ever was. The Republican machine that constantly attacks her hasn’t managed a successful campaign in ages, but they’re trying to push blame off themselves for putting forth such a horrible, milquetoast, middle-of-the-road candidate into the spotlight in the first place.
Sarah Palin, as CEO of a state or of a country, wouldn’t be dumb enough to sign a Porkulus she hadn’t read or that none of the signatories had, in fact, read.
Or to have accepted that Porkulus from the pen of one Nancy Pelosi, who barely even let other democrats in on the act of composing it.
Nor would Palin be going around, trading on her charisma, to promote an approximately 1200 page “healthcare” boondoogle with whose comments she was also, largely, unfamiliar.
Unless, of course, the point of both measures was really government control and, therefore, she didn’t particularly care about the content of either.
hint hint
“Gone are the days of the middle-of-the-road”
The middle of the road is where you get run over. As Miyagi said, “squish, just like grape”.
The very definition of being ‘middle of the road’ is having no passionate beliefs. Given how horribly this entirely relativist, self-centered generation is progressing, I really doubt that’s a good option.
93. Michael:
That’s right, we are sore afraid. Please, please don’t keep Sarah Palin in the forefront as the de facto leader of the Republican Party. PLEASE
with whose comments
contents
Michael
Palin doesn’t conjure up fear, she is the pole flag that keeps reactionary morons out their showing the world what dimwits you are. Palin is a dimwit for all the dimwits to rally around
“To be conservative is to be betrayed on a regular basis.”
Paranoia, self righteousness and self pity right from the start shows where this dreckish commentary is heading. All you poor little stupido-cons, i feel so sorry that most of the world thinks you are simpletons, but maybe they are right? I know, they are all evil godless communists.
Sarah should be elected. It would be cool to have a lobotomy patient in the White House.
I like and respect Sarah Palin — but she is a novice to the national political arena and is not above well-intended criticism from Republicans and conservatives. I look forward to Palin’s new career path and hope (and expect) that she will confound her critics. When (or if) Palin does so, the climate of opinion will change.
Palin has a useful precedent to follow. Even after two successful terms as governor of California, Ronald Reagan was seen as a lightweight by many Republicans and conservatives. Gradually, over time, as they got to know Reagan and watched him address substantive national issues in an effective manner, opinion changed. Conservative and GOP critics and holdouts became converts and, through a brilliant campaign in 1980, Reagan unified the GOP and conservative movement behind him.
Can Palin do the same? We shall see. I would not put it past her. Yet even if Palin does not pursue national office, she could do great service as a Limbaugh or Oprah like media figure, expanding the reach of conservative ideas. That alone would be a worthy (and lucrative) second act.
No. 95: Sound argument. I’ll delete the last sentence of my dissertation.
Correction: No. 97.
Palin is probably a decent person, nice enough, not stupid butt trying to get excited about ehr is like trying to be enthusiastic about a set up date that you know in 5 minutes won’t generate date #2.
One, she is not at all articulate. You just cannot have a pres that struggles with the english language. No republican in the last hundred years (other than perhaps crabby Bob Dole) has fumbled and flopped about so badly when trying to speak. She’s Dan Quale in a dress.
Two, no record of solid judgment that would attract the sober GOP voters that usually insist on a bit more than “look at me I’m a maverick!”
Three, she is a small town republican, not a real conservative. That means when you get her in D.C. she is completely unprepared to deal with liberal onslaughts and winds up trying to gain approval from the WaPo.
Four, …maybe more imortant than the rest..she had no career outside of politics. She’s not a businesswoman, lawyer, doctor or whatnot. Like Bobby Jindal, she is a politician. Big deal.
The excitement in finding someone who was not a corrupt, tired, worn-out unprincipled GOP office holder was understandable: but she’s not ready for prime time. Find someone else.
The more of this crap I hear the more determined I get to support her no matter what. I really don’t care if she runs around the house in bunny slippers from now until Nov 4, 2012, if she runs for pres I am voting for her just to stick it in the eye of these bastards.
“92. Daniel:”
Oh… So, there’s VIDEO of Sarah in an EXORCISM! Why, I have NEVER heard about that one before! Don’t you think that it would be all over the MSM if there was such thing?
Show me the video! I want EVIDENCE! Otherwise, STHU.
As to your deep disdain for her Christian beliefs (which are also mine), you wouldn’t mind throwing her to the Roman lions, or wouldn’t you?
Or was the arson burn against her Bible Church in Wasilla just a “self-inflicted act of witchcraft”? Funny: I wonder if YOU had something to do with it…
“102. billy:
Sarah should be elected. It would be cool to have a lobotomy patient in the White House.”
And YOU would make a great Pope! Such “compassion” you have, especially for those unfortunate to be in that situation…
yeah AtheistConservative:
Let’s all be radicals and call everyone we disagree with evil enemies of humanity and god. That really keeps things going rather well if you toss compromise and reason out the window, then we bring in a woman on a white horse to restore order and goodness.
RW Definition of Elitist: anyone not a common, reactionary small minded dimwit, and proud of it, like me
Re. : Why Sarah Palin Fans Feel Betrayed
This member of the Nassau Conservative Party County Committee does not feel betrayed by Palin. Rather i do feel betrayed by the McCain camp. The ONLY reason i voted Republican in the election was because of Palin. BTW, she’s the ONLY Republican who can generate campaign contrabutions. The GOP is on a MAJOR losing streek. No one donates to consistant losers. The GOP is dead. The current “leadership” of the GOP thinks they can come back when Obama completes screwing things up. Don’t count on it. The word is out. The GOP is the same as the Democrats, only with a little better style. I used to think that we need a “3rd” party. But lately, i’ve come to believe that we need a “2nd” party because the GOP is dead. The GOP has been great for China, India, Mexico, Planned Parenthood, OPEC, etc., etc., etc., but lousy for America !
Watch for REPUBLICAN Lindsey Graham to vote FOR Sotomayer to the Supreme Court and kiss your 2nd Amendment rights goodby. All thanks to the REPUBLICANS !
Another thread in this same story is what happened in Cambridge over the last two weeks. A couple of Harvard guys decided that the middle class working guy was getting a little too uppity. So, now they are lecturing us on race relations from their vacation homes on Martha’s Vineyard. Give me a break.
Who gets criticized more and/or more harshly, Palin or Obama?
Horace Wells
Sure didn’t take long to get to over a 100 comments, with troll help, of course. Sarah Palin = troll food.
I am not talking about her Christian views, which I think she takes too far as well, but the video that is available all over the internet of her partaking in an excorcism by a witchdoctor.
Comments such as “Daniel’s” make you want to run and scream at the travesty of “human intelligence”.
I agree with Ken at 103. Sarah Palin seems like a wonderful individual and does “represent” the best American values. However, there’s a difference between representing the right values and actually being able to be president. She was nowhere near ready to be president, or VP.
I’m not sure why so many of my friends on the right are taking this so personally. It’s not an attack on you or your values. Criticizing Palin’s qualifications or discussing her prospects for a political future doesn’t mean she’s a bad person or we reject those values. I just think the GOP needs someone better to lead it than Sarah Palin.
Gotta remember — Republicans need to be better than Democrats. We need someone like Reagan — friggin’ teflon. Dubya held up remarkably well, but wasn’t able to defuse the criticism like Ronald Reagan. When Democrats attacked Reagan, they looked stupid and he became more popular. Dubya never mastered that trick.
Also, the whole “I’m a maverick” thing was pathetic. You don’t call yourself a maverick. Others do.
Sommer stated on every position ,28% favor the conservative position and 72% the liberal one. In your dreams,Einstein. That’s why Pelosi’s approval rating lingers in the low teens, because the country is a mob of raging leftards. If you throw out the media jackels practicing obamallatio, the campus mobs of dullards, the boyz in the hood, the populations of Manhattan and the Castro district, the left is running out of running dog lackeys.
Palin has far more in common with normal working class Americans than the DC mob ever will.
I want Blarty fartelstein to prove he doesn’t have any communicable diseases before I’ll engage it in conversation.
On the Canadian side of the Canada/US border here are three new nails in the coffin regarding the MSM. The only difference between the Canadian MSM and the American MSM is geography:
http://www.thedailyobserver.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1680938
and
http://www.charlesadler.com/2009/07/wafergate—no-laughing-matter—michael-harris-ottawa-sun.html
and
http://www.charlesadler.com/2009/07/wafergate-wake-up-call-a-national-joke.html
Plus this: http://www.charlesadler.com/2009/07/liberals-concocted-wafer-scandal—steve-janke.html
Just the reason why I left the Republican Party for the Constitution Party last year. I don’t care if I throw my vote away – I will not vote for the modern breed of Republican where you can hardly tell they’re not a Democrat. And I will not support the party that tossed out conservative principles these recent years.
Mostly I just read here and don’t write anything. This time I have to say something.
I’ve been a Republican for over 40 years. Palin is exciting, sure, and draws a crowd. But she is no Reagan. She doesn’t seem to have a grasp on foreign policy and doesn’t think well on her feet. To vote for her just to make a point seems to be cutting off your nose to spite your face. This is the party of Lincoln. To back Palin only drags us down. They can trot out any number of people who will beat us. Any way you look at it, 28% is no winning number.
A lot of us think that ‘her difficulty with managing appearances’ is in large part a combination of treason and enemy action.
The Left slammed Dan Quayle until he became considered a joke–I doubt he was, and the ‘potatoe’ fiasco was blown up to be something important when it was not, and when it might have been a deliberate trick by an NEA teacher. That’s enemy action. Make up new standards on the spot and act all aghast at the horror. The Left is very good at this.
Treason is the Big Government Republicans who claim to be our friends, but knife her in the back at every opportunity.
Anyone who gets the conservatives at all enthused will be subjected to this. Even RINOs will get this–Colin Powell voted against McCain after all.
Ed Wallis says we need to coalesce. Indeed he’s right. Its time for the liberal RINOs to coalesce behind Sarah. Ed, I’m willing to drive this train off the cliff if I have to because I know the RINOs will anyways. Conservatives are in a corner. Either they fight and win against the RINOs, or the Republicans lose against the Democrats. RINOs like GW, Sr.; Robert Dole, and John McCain have a number of things in common, but the most obvious two are RINO and Lost Election.
Cowalker,
Perhaps you can ask your father, and the supposed legions like him, why President Obama is better than Sarah. What virtue or experience he has that she does not exceed.
If by “believes in witchcraft,” you mean that Sarah Palin believes that such a thing as witchcraft exists, then yes, she does, and so does every Bible-believing Christian. Witchcraft is seeking supernatural power from dark forces and it is real, no matter how absurd it may seem.
I am not talking about her Christian views, which I think she takes too far as well, but the video that is available all over the internet of her partaking in an excorcism by a witchdoctor.
Ah. She is pantheistic. That warms my libertarian heart. And makes me think that she is not one of the Cross wavers so common in politics these days.
I don’t know why this didn’t get posted so I’m going to try again.
I am not talking about her Christian views, which I think she takes too far as well, but the video that is available all over the internet of her partaking in an excorcism by a witchdoctor.
Ah. She is pantheistic. That warms my libertarian heart. And makes me think that she is not one of the Cross wavers so common in politics these days.
28%?
Look, the lowest of the popular socon positions is Enforce Border Control and that hits 70% approval. Other positions have higher ratings.
Horace,
You’re addressing an atheist and telling him he thinks non-conservatives are the enemies of god. Hmmmmm…
And its not that We the Base hate elitism, its that we disdain those who lay claim to this title unjustified. Pretentious and mediocre is not a winning combination.
I can’t figure out why the exorcism video didn’t post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg
What is wrong with Pajamas?
The Palin video just doesn’t post. Pajamas software is so screwed today:
Palin Exorcism Video
The Sarah Palin Exorcism Video is on You tube.
112: You are right on. We need a second party. Carl Rowe is on the DNC payroll. I don’t watch Fox anymore because his stupid lying face is always on representing the Republicans. He and “W” eliminated as many conservative as they possibly could in their 8 years in power. They never picked a viable VP because it was always their intention to pass the Presidency back to the Clintons. Obama sort of screwed that up. The left knew they had a real ideologue in Obama.
PS I recommend you don’t use your real name.
123 Old republican: I was impressed with Nixon, thrilled with Reagan, liked Bush and liked Clinton enough to vote for him. Since then the candidates seem watered down. I agree that Palin is not up to the cut of that group and we need to find someone with more dimension and experience. But where? The current crop don’t have the breadth, experience or the vision.
“Let’s all be radicals and call everyone we disagree with evil enemies of humanity and god. ”
Like most sophists, you are confusing ideology with being an ideologue.
We have different political parties because we have different ideologies. This is healthy. It reflects the way people develop: as you get older you gain more knowledge and your political/ideological beliefs mature (hopefully).
This is why it’s ridiculous for adult representatives to be talking about ‘bipartisanship’ and ‘reaching across the aisle’ – McCain truly believed it and was wrong which is why he was a soft candidate who only became truly attractive with the addition of staunch Conservative Palin; Obama was just lying and doing so in a very transparent fashion that only gullible people bought.
Anything that has a bipartisan solution rarely comes to a major political level, and if it does it passes without event. We fight over the big issues because there is no ‘bipartisan’ solution.
The parties need to be distinct because the solutions are distinct. As a Conservative with an education, experience, and an understanding of history, it’s quite evident to me that on these issues the Conservative ideology is the correct one, thus I see no reason to ‘reach out’ to left-wingers and accommodate their rather idiotic beliefs. However I am not an ideologue; if someone who believes differently from me can convince me of their position, fine. But that’s just being rational. It has nothing to do with ‘bipartisanship’.
The paeans to bipartisansip are at best disingenuous and at worst just plain dishonest. And I’m sick of it.
Are you reading this, Allahpundit?
Repeat:
Are you reading this Allahpundit?
I am practically giddy! Still the left tries to trivialize Sarah Palin. The can’t stop themselves! These guys who haven’t done a tenth of what she has accomplished so far in her life. Everytime they try to tare her down one only has to look at the current adiministation to see 10 times what they complain about. This is really quite uplifting. Thanks guys.
Great article…
What frustrated me to no end about conservatives and Republicans is how they destroy their own, whereas the liberals and Democrats will spin and lie in order to protect “themselves”…i.e. one of THEIR own.
Sarah Palin has been given a great platform to proclaim our message, except for having to avoid the traps laid out by the conservative Washington elites and Republicans who aid and abet the enemy instead of uniting behind Palin for the sake of our Country and cause!
Can we not unite behind Palin to help clean out the Socialists who have taken over our Country in the 2010 elections and deal with 2012 later please!! Support Palin!!
Your first few paragraphs really did tap into what it feels like to be a conservative in America. I’d like to see more of that kind of sincere honesty. That said, i do understand why parts of the republican establishment have gone after her. Fair or not, ready or not, she was on the presidential ticket and lost by a big margin. Polls read loud and clear the fact is she cannot offer a presidential ticket win. However she has enough active loyalists to lock her into the nomination. Thus Palin for all of her good very likely represents an 8yr Obama white house. The conservative movement needs Palin but it also needs the white house. It can have both but only separately.
As a side note some of her fans need to be more fair to her. She is human. Stop projecting all your hopes onto her. She has much good to offer. Fair or not conservatives have to deal with a double media standards which means we can not get away with Joe Biden moments. She has to be able to outsmart the media or at least keep them at bay. Bush was crap at handling the media howd that turn out? Palin certainly is of a trustworthy character to be potus but she needs more skills. Giver her time to grow and develop and find her voice without being tied down with McCain. She got taken out of the oven to early once already. Giver her time and room to get it right if she does gets some sort of a second chance.
if you want a good laugh you should look up the polls comparing obamas church with palins church… guess which one had 3x as many people who believed in ghosts.
It’s not an exorcism, M. it’s what’s is known as
a “despojo” a despoilment, it’s an invocation against ill will, to ward off the evil eye. You can see how much ill will is gathered here.
Now for those who say she doesn’t know foreign policy, you think she would bow to the Saudi King, which is something both W and Obama have done. She would have supported the Honduran society against Zalaya’s usurpation, has spoken on behalf of the Iranian women’s protests, she would know it’s not a ‘debate’. Coming from a former Russian colony, she understands that this czar wannabe cannot be coddled. She was for a more aggressive posture in Pakistan, which really is the central battlefield of jihad, She has a personal stake in the campaign in Iraq,
Washington hates America. Sarah Palin personifies the America they hate. To inside the beltway types, Democrat and
Republican, she is incoherent when she speaks, because they don’t speak the same language.
The Video The Obama And His Thugs DO NOT Want You TO See!
I’ve written quite a bit about Obama’s ties to all of the bogus ethics complaints filed against Sarah Palin, going back to the failed “troopergate” witch hunt.
But Naked Emperor News has put together a video that ties it all together with the filthy democrat bloggers who filed all of the phony ethics complaints and stole over $2 million dollars of tax payer money from the state of Alaska while doing it.
This is the filthy democrats in their OWN WORDS!
The filthy democrats have tried to have this video banned, because it shows all of the direct ties between the democrat bloggers in Alaska, and Barack Obama. Including the pay-for-play deal between Barack Obama and state senator Kim Elton who lead the phony “troopergate” witch hunt.
Obama gave Elton a make-work job in the Interior Department as payoff for his evil ways. Typical Chicago thug politics.
Here’s where you can see the video. And remember, they were going to IMPEACH Richard Nixon for a hell of a lot less than what Barack Obama has done to Sarah Palin!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa0wnx_obama-and-democrats-multiple-direct_news
And for all of you trolls here, answer me this. How many of YOU have ever negotiated the largest construction project in history, a $60 billion deal between a foreign government, an international construction company, and the world’s largest oil company?
Well, Sarah Palin HAS.
This is a deal Alaskans have been trying to do for 30 years. It took Sarah Palin TWO! Even better, this will be paid for with private money!
Barry Obama would still be trying to figure out what a pipeline was in two years!
Barry Obama is a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance, just like the nimrods who support him!
It’s a sick bunch who think abortion-on-demand is an “enlightened” point of view.
The Video The Obama And His Thugs DO NOT Want You TO See!
I’ve written quite a bit about Obama’s ties to all of the bogus ethics complaints filed against Sarah Palin, going back to the failed “troopergate” witch hunt.
But Naked Emperor News has put together a video that ties it all together with the filthy democrat bloggers who filed all of the phony ethics complaints and stole over $2 million dollars of tax payer money from the state of Alaska while doing it.
This is the filthy democrats in their OWN WORDS!
The filthy democrats have tried to have this video banned, because it shows all of the direct ties between the democrat bloggers in Alaska, and Barack Obama. Including the pay-for-play deal between Barack Obama and state senator Kim Elton who lead the phony “troopergate” witch hunt.
Obama gave Elton a make-work job in the Interior Department as payoff for his evil ways. Typical Chicago thug politics.
Here’s where you can see the video. And remember, they were going to IMPEACH Richard Nixon for a hell of a lot less than what Barack Obama has done to Sarah Palin!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa0wnx_obama-and-democrats-multiple-direct_news
And for all of you trolls here, answer me this. How many of YOU have ever negotiated the largest construction project in history, a $60 billion deal between a foreign government, an international construction company, and the world’s largest oil company?
Well, Sarah Palin HAS.
This is a deal Alaskans have been trying to do for 30 years. It took Sarah Palin TWO! Even better, this will be paid for with private money!
Barry Obama would still be trying to figure out what a pipeline was in two years!
Barry Obama is a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance, just like the nimrods who support him!
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The Video The Obama And His Thugs DO NOT Want You TO See!
I’ve written quite a bit about Obama’s ties to all of the bogus ethics complaints filed against Sarah Palin, going back to the failed “troopergate” witch hunt.
But Naked Emperor News has put together a video that ties it all together with the democrat bloggers who filed all of the phony ethics complaints and stole over $2 million dollars of tax payer money from the state of Alaska while doing it.
This is the democrats in their OWN WORDS!
The democrats have tried to have this video banned, because it shows all of the direct ties between the democrat bloggers in Alaska, and Barack Obama. Including the pay-for-play deal between Barack Obama and state senator Kim Elton who lead the phony “troopergate” witch hunt.
Obama gave Elton a make-work job in the Interior Department as payoff for his evil ways. Typical Chicago thug politics.
Here’s where you can see the video. And remember, they were going to IMPEACH Richard Nixon for a hell of a lot less than what Barack Obama has done to Sarah Palin!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa0wnx_obama-and-democrats-multiple-direct_news
And for all of you trolls here, answer me this. How many of YOU have ever negotiated the largest construction project in history, a $60 billion deal between a foreign government, an international construction company, and the world’s largest oil company?
Well, Sarah Palin HAS.
This is a deal Alaskans have been trying to do for 30 years. It took Sarah Palin TWO! Even better, this will be paid for with private money!
Barry Obama would still be trying to figure out what a pipeline was in two years!
Barry Obama is a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance, just like the nimrods who support him!
I don’t Pastor Thomas Murhee or his 2005 visit to Palin’s church in Wasilla, Alaska as her “… partaking in an excorcism by a witchdoctor”, which is how Daniel characterized Murhee’s visits.
In the video you link, he asks that the forces of righteousness hold her up and work on her behalf. Doesn’t sound unreasonable.
She doesn’t say anything.
Biden, Palin, Obama, Bush, etc. they are just human, and as such they can and will on occasion put their foot in their mouths. So what, big deal, you have all done the same. If you can do better then just shut up and get started with your own damn campaign, your country needs you, whoever you are.
(3)Vivo, I am surprised to find you complimenting Republicans. Have you had a change of heart? Or grown a brain? My favorite adage: If you are not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you are still a liberal at 40, you have no brain.
We all make mistakes, please don’t be so hard on our public servants.
(23) Pat K, could you please provide a link to the bill which associates page 59 with your statement about the federal government having direct access to our bank accounts? I did some searching today (very limited time) and could not find a version of H.R. 15 which would display that information on “page 59″. It seems the congressional version is buried deep in Googleland. Or if someone could provide the section of the bill in which this specific item is buried, I could find it in the .pdf version I did find. (OBTW, some of you may wish to read Margaret Atwood’s “The Handmaid’s Tale”) if this concerns you.)
1. Give to candidates directly – GOP is worthless
2. Palin speaks for me, she is someone who cares for this country
3. Politicians should have as part of their pledge to serve the people of this country, the requirement to read bills before they vote on them.
4. Congress should have a set amount of time to read bills, the “FINAL” version, before a vote is taken, e.g. 1 week for each 500 pages and no late night addendums before the vote. What the f*ck is the rush?! Only a crook wants to rush people into making serious decisions.
5. There should be a rating system that tracks how politicians vote based on how a bill measures up to the Bill of Rights. We call RINOs RINOs for a reason, because they typically vote against the republican/conservative interests/platform.
But at this point, I think most should just be retired at this point, on both sides of the aisle. And we need TERM LIMITS. These clowns who sit there for 30-40 years are stale, corrupt, moldy, dead in the head and have forgotten what their job is all about.
Palin sucked….no Sarah, Africa is not a continent. I’m extremely glad she quit the GOP so that we do not have to worry about her running again.
I had to vote Constitution Party this last time around due to the wretched McCain and his lapdog Sarah Palin annoyed the hell out of me.
Hopefully we get a real candidate in 2012….by the looks of it we won’t though.
If Rand Paul wins his senate bid, I think he should run for president. Now that would be a breath of fresh air rather than a Statist War monger like McCain.
For those trying to remember, and especially those
who do not want to know, take a look at this before
Sarah Palin was announced just over 11 months ago as the 2008 Republican running mate:
http://palinforvp.blogspot.com/2007/07/fred-barnes-praises-palin.html
I see nothing wrong with the video of the Pastor praying for Sarah Palin. I would like him to pray for me and he has his words just right in my book. You are wrong about witchcraft, just go on down to New Orleans and look around the French Quarter, because they are there. I think it would be great to have her pastor to pray for me, because I have been listening to CC Adcock lately and I love his music, I have always enjoyed the music that comes from the New Orleans area. I cannot help myself, and I love the jazz as much as the Zydeco.
Or this: http://palinforvp.blogspot.com/2008/08/interesting-analysis-from-bill-kristol.html
Hawkins, these days its all about protecting one’s own little patch of turf in the rightesphere. The same is true on blogs like RightWingNews, Redstate, and others. Everyone on the right has their own pathetic little opinions and interpretations regarding what is wrong with the GOP. Sadly those interpretations only point to the end results and totally ignore the essence of the problems/dysfunction. Everyone on the right is pointing to the end results of the true problem and they’re saying, “see? here is the problem with the GOP!”. And they all remain so far off course its not funny.
You know Hawkins the GOP and Movement Conservatives have not hit rock bottom yet. They swagger about acting as if they’ve got all the answers. But they’re clueless. They continue to exalt themselves, hence they’re still being humbled. Since they won’t humble themselves, they’re experiencing enforced humility. The worst kind. And they’re having their nose rubbed in it. Darvin Dowdy
Why would Republicans have it in for her? I thought it was obvious, but nobody seems to mention it: she fought her own party in Alaska. They don’t trust her. All that is unreservedly good in my book, but the bigwigs probably don’t see it that way.
Horace Wells, and BB: I am currently involved in a research project to find out where you live.
I will find out very soon.
And then I will kill you, in vengeance for what you did to Sarah’s church.
Shiggz,
The way to handle the legacy media is to realize they are the Enemy. You will never get them on your side; the best you can hope for is to intimidate them by being so popular with the people that the media fears a backlash from its viewers.
Palin attacked the media in her last speech, and is deeply popular. In other words, she’s already got that down.
Sure, she could be slicker, but frankly we’re all human, and any little evidence of that is going to be blown into a mountain by the legacy media unless they’re scared. To repeat, there is no bar so high that the media couldn’t find a flaw.
Jesus came, and got criticized. So He slammed his critics. He pointed out that when John the Baptist came and lived in the dessert and ate locust and honey, they slammed him. Jesus ate with sinners at dinners so they slammed Him. Door one or door two, get slammed.
Jesus said they had a devil.
The problem is the critics, not the target of the criticism in that case. In Palin’s case, I’d say its mostly the critics who have issues rather than Palin.
Sure Palin could be better, but so it was with Reagan as well.
I feel sorry for those of you that cannot see that Sarah Palin is a good decent woman. Why make unfounded remarks about her? The really sad thing is that most of the trolls are young people who don’t realize that in a few years, unless we defeat bho, our country wont be a fit place for you to raise your children. She has walked the walk of life and proven that she is a true American woman and leader. I won’t try to insult bho by using your tactics because he does it to himself everyday. Try to imagine our country after 8 years under this imposter. If that doesn’t change your outlook nothing will.
Amen to that, great article.
The “America they hate” is all of US in Middle America and of course we take offense at the Palin insults. It has actually been eye opening although it leaves many of us feeling kinda used. We’re good enough to buy your books, listen/watch your shows or peruse your articles but, we are substandard in our judgement and knowledge because we didn’t go to an Ivy League School? You should move to India if you love Caste Systems so much as the last time that I checked this still remains to be America.
The problem with a lot of the criticism of Palin “from the right” is that it is blatantly disingenuous. Many of those who are criticizing Palin unfairly are only doing so because they know that she is a threat to their own favored candidate in the upcoming 2012 election – whether it be Romney, Huckabee, Pawlenty or someone else.
While it’s certainly fair to criticize Palin as a supporter of another potential candidate, it’s dishonest to not disclose your own bias when you do so. There are plenty of pundits and commenters that I know are supporters of other Republicans who are absolutely scathing in their attacks on Palin. They claim to be “objective” and “just looking out for the interests of conservatives,” but they’re no less partisan than any MSM-er who attacked Palin from the Left because they were secretly (or not so secretly) pulling for Barack Obaam to win.
I think Palin’s supporters would be a lot less defensive, and her critics would be a whole lot more honest and credible, if they disclosed their own preferences before opening fire on Palin. To do otherwise is to be no better than a Chris Matthews or an Andrea Mitchell or a Keith Olbermann.
It’s shameful, and conservatives owe each other a much higher standard of punditry and overall commentary with regard to Palin than we’ve seen thus far.
The blue blood country club inside the beltway “Conservatives In Name Only” need to stop bashing us regular Americans, that includes Sarah Palin. Just because Palin is not apart of their social circles, literary boors like; Peggy Noonan, Kathleen Parker, David Frum and the like, these conservative wannabees are nothing more than the “Hoi Polloi” within, bashing Sarah Palin. The arguments are always the same. Yet I have not been able to reconcile any of the logic to the criticism of Sarah Palin by those on the right. It’s like they are jealous of Sarah Palin. What does Sarah Palin have that they don’t have? How about integrity.
What troubles me about so many of the comments is the notion that the anti-Palin behavior of some republicans along with the squishy attitudes of many republican politicians means that conservatives should give up on the republican party and try to destroy or replace it.
It seems to me that taking a greater interest in that party, reforming it into the party you want by participating in it and eventually taking it over, would be a wiser course.
Splitting the Republican party or separating the Conservative vote from it will only insure dominance by Democrats for years to come.
To me the real trolls here are those who use Governor Palin as a stick to destroy the Republican party instead of her becoming the path to revitalizing it a means of invigorating it.
The idiots who put her down are not worth answering.
I didn’t know there were so many unemployed Pajammers/Republicans. Peggy Bundy would be proud.
Have a relaxed day!
Isn’t that the truth.
The old sayings “Loose Lips Sink Ships”,& “You Have The Right To Remain Silent”, including “Silence Is Golden”. They all apply here, if the concervative fools with their mouths flapping against Ms.Palin would only demand the facts making their case for lodgic and truth, thus their supported values.
Our Military Phrase, “Be All That You Can Be”,so society from within can or will attempt to destroy you.[Palin the Stateswoman and the adverage guy Joe The Plumber]Politics, politicians and lobbyists for the sake of money and power display the threat of overthrowing OUR Constitution while our military men and women fight for it is the disgrace of this Nation. With the rest of the world laughing out loud.
The true evil is the unmidigated corruption, the norm, the decay of Washington D.C., turning Congress and K-Street into a “criminal racketeering enterprise”. The ignorance of Jihad while being warned by those who have lived it!
The Attorney General rapping the blindfold of Lady Justice over his eyes putting his political face on the front door of the DOJ, the halls of the court houses, holding the red phone to his ear from the Oval Office concerning which laws if any are to be enforced and who’s to be eliminated so the corruption, thugs and frauds can flourish. [The IG's]
That’s what they all fear of in Sarah Palin. Their dirt, her enema tube. She’s proved that in the past, and she’ll prove it again in the future if conservative values means anything at all anymore. It makes no common sense to provide the bullet in the fatal game of Russian Roulette while gambling with America’s future. A lesson of advice the conservative movement should explore to undue the damage which has been done so far.
Almost half the coments noet that it was GWB/Rove’s remaking of the GOP as a liberal/progressive party that hurt America. Their lies about being conservative have killed the GOP. Sarah has been back stabbed by the current progressive/liberal GOP “leader” McCain. I blame her not for feeling betrayed as all conservatives have felt the last 7 years by the liberals/progressives “leading” the GOP and lying about being conservative.
Only if Barry and Ronnie were liberal can GWB,Rove and McCain honestly be conservative.
The GOP is suicidal.In 2008 conservatives had a choice of flawed candidates-Romney,Huckabee and Giuliani all had liberal records in office,Thompson acted comatose on the campaign trail,and Ron Paul stirred up the libertarian fringe-all of which let the candidate who had stuck it in the eye of conservatives for years get the nomination-John McCain.If he had not selected Palin as VP the results in November would have been much worse,many more conservatives would have stayed home.Conservatives have been eating their young for years now,competing wings out to dominate the base.Neocons,fiscons,socons,libertarians-all attacking one another-all at the expense of the conservative movement.If we cannot unite behind a candidate who is conserbvative on all the major issues,without the baggage of a liberal past,and who refuses to compromise their principles to “reach out to the center”(we have done that and fail every time)we are doomed to liberal-socialist governance.The elitists can’t stand Palin because she is a threat to their influence.It is time for conservatives in the GOP to put country before self-interest,and principle before politics.
“If the snobs on the right don’t like Palin because she’s a conservative with an accent who isn’t rich, didn’t go to an Ivy League school, and wouldn’t be welcome at their cocktail parties, then they wouldn’t like me for the exact same reasons.”
No, it doesn’t mean they don’t “like” you or Palin, it means they wouldn’t want you or Palin running the country. It’s very nice to have someone who shares your values in government, but without the knowledge base and intellectual curiousity to learn more, a successful statesman you will not be.
You are an idiot. So is Sarah Palin.
People criticize Sarah Palin for good reason-she has failed in just about every endeavor she has set out to do. If it had been a man who quit the governorship-he would have been crucified. Quitting with 18 months to go in a first term is not about being a lame duck-its about being stupid.
Your first few paragraphs sum up the state of the party very well-everything is a conspiracy to get you: got it. Quite simply that point of view is not playing well except with the already converted. Sarah Palin cannot cross over and attract voters who actually have a reasoned point of view and if you follow her she will lead the Republican party all the way down the drain.
That’s what is wrong with the lying fraud that is Sarah Palin.
It is perfectly okay to criticize Palin. She makes mistake and on may policy issues is green, but she does get it about conservatism and her instincts are good.
But when you have completely over the top and dishonest attacks on her by the left, and then snide attacks from your so called allies, it can be disheartening for anyone.
I like Sarah a lot. I had hoped McCain would pick her, shocked he actually did, and had they run a better campaign they might have won (although it was a tough situation to run in). She definitely did not lose the election for Mac, that “my friends” falls on his campaign organization, some bizare decisions towards the end of the campaign, and a cratering economy on the GOP watch.
As for her future, I suspect she will do a lot of good. I do not see her winning the nomination in 2012 (I am still not sure she intends to even run for 2012), but I see her being effective and dynamic on some critical conservative principals.
Most people have forgot that Reagan campaigned for other Conservative republicans and taught the public what conservative principles were and why they were right for the four years leading up to his selection as the GOP standard bearer. Today most of the public has forgot what true conservationism is and stands for due to RINOs and the efforts of a relentless liberal press. If Sarah Palin can campaign for fellow conservatives and teach conservationism like Reagan did she should be the next standard bearer. If she can’t than let’s find the person who can. But let her try I think that is all she asks.
So many comments and the day is not half over. Palin is a true star. The GOP, if they keep at it, will find only Collin Powell in their party and Bloomberg as their candidate.
158. Ken:
Horace Wells, and BB: I am currently involved in a research project to find out where you live.
I will find out very soon.
And then I will kill you, in vengeance for what you did to Sarah’s church.
K. Just come on down here to Mississippi and start killing every liberal you see. Eventually you’ll get to me.
See ya!
# 168 – maybe some conservatives would have remained at home if Palin weren’t on the ticket, but there would also have been independents like me that would have switched our vote from Obama to McCain if he had chosen a better running mate.
Until we gain our senses back and realize Sarah Palin is a throw-back to the dark ages of ignorance and incompetence, the Republican party has a limited future.
I’ve never read such pure self-pitying victim-speak in my life! This is the new conservatism: whining and paranoid. I give you Exhibit A, the first paragraph of this article:
“To be conservative is to be betrayed on a regular basis. You send your kids to a school that tries to slyly indoctrinate them into liberalism, you come home to watch an “unbiased” news show that covers almost every story differently based on whether a Republican or Democrat is involved, and then you try to unwind by watching TV shows that take guarded shots at the values you cherish.”
Poor, poor babies!
Edward A., answer me this: is Sarah Palin emblematic of why the Republicans did as poorly as they did in 2006, or 2008? If not, why not look in the mirror, before blaming her for the difficulties the Republicans are having.
For government is not all powerful. It needs to be held in check, so that the world does not endure on a global scale
what Europe went through during the 30 years war, which stemmed from disagreements on how to interpret Christian scriptures.
#3
VIVO
VIVO=ALFRED E. NEWMAN
77/88
S.M.
See Sam Schulman, “Class Will Tell”
http://snipr.com/ohfrl
Sorry the snipr doesn’t seem to work.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000%5C000%5C015%5C715lnilj.asp
#47
“BLARTY BLARCKLEBLART”
With such a scathingly original nom-de-blog you show yourself to be an inspiration to insipid, weak minded liberals everywhere. Perhaps it originated as the result of an afternoon spent in a darkened theater swooning over the the intellectual tour-de-force called “Paul Blart, Mall cop”. I’m certain the subtle nuances were not lost on you….cretin.
Please spare us anymore of your sophomoric commentary.
77/88
S.M.
182. COL. SEBASTIAN MORAN:
Paul Blart: Mall Cop was a masterpiece. I live my life by its teachings.
I suppose you preferred that mall cop movie with Seth Rogen.
Philistine.
If you have any doubts as to the potential of Sarah Palin, just look at the number of comments sparked by this article. She spoke for me in the campaign and obviously for many others here. She still gets more press than Biden and she lost the election. But had the Republican ticket won, Old John and his advisers would have put her in a locked
closet and thrown away the key.
Sarah Palin is a unique phenomenom. She got to the national scene by a very improbable route and continues to shatter people’s(left and right) expectations for her. I don’t know where she is going from here, but doubt that any of the pundits will be able to forcast her future any better than me. I just know that I like what she says and believe she is sincere. The unparelled personal attacks on her are absolutely amazing. Utlimately, it is my hope that celebraties such as Letterman will be permanently damaged by response to their incredible viciousness.
I am of the same mind as #7 Vic. I’m an independent that used to vote Republican. Perhaps not any more. I won’t vote democrat but I might just sit out the next presidential election if Palin is shunned by the party leadership. I mean really, Mitt Romney? Gimme a break! He’s nearly as bad as what we presently have. The snobs can go straight to hell.
Boo-hoo. In the end if Sarah Palin has the balls to be President, she will toughen up and get the job done. Whine, whine whine, bitch, whine, bitch, whine is all you cons do.
John Hawkins,
YOU have betrayed conservatives too, by referring to leftists as ‘liberals’.
They are not ‘liberal’ at all, but rather illiberal and fascist. By ceding this term to them, you are already ceding the entire battle.
This is THE funniest thing I’ve read all year.
How did a piece from The Onion end up on Pajamasmedia?
No one cheers me, on the Right, like Palin, and I don’t even believe she is 100% Right. It doesn’t matter. She is the personification of the American Dream. I’m not impressed by the Ivy League crowd (and I grew up with them). Brooks, Frum, and that ilk are pseudo. They are useful idiots. Palin is real. Obama is President Stupidly and Biden makes Quayle look like Einstein. (Quayle is actually a very good guy.)
It waits to be seen if Republicans can get their heads straight for 2012. I’ll never vote Dem Lite again (McCain) and the RNC won’t get another penny from me, ever. Right now, 2010 is what’s important and I will contribute to as many strong conservative candidates as I can. I’m betting Palin helps those candidates.
“Betrayed” is a good way to put it. And we won’t forget.
Anyone who’d like a detailed understanding of the phenomenon Mr Hawkins describes so accurately should dig up a copy of Arnold Mitchell’s The Nine American Lifestyles. Palin is the first national politician in a generation to unreservedly reflect middle-class values, and that does not sit well with a smug cohort that has budded out since the sixties despising those values, a few of whom prominently claim to be on the right.
Sarah Palin is a conservative? She still does not have a position on third-world immigration, the reason for America’s downfall. In the absence of any announced stand, the fact that she was selected to run for VP by McCain, an open borders extremist, gives rise to an inference that she agrees with him. Moreover, she never has criticized or done anything about the Mexicanization of the fish packing industry in Alaska, which has reduced wages to subsistence levels and brought Mexican poverty and crime to Alaska. That doesn’t bother the Palin fanciers, who identify with her rural accent and fundamentalist church membership and project onto her their own political beliefs.
A woman with a governor’s income and status whose son drops out of high school to join the Army and whose daughter drops out because of pregnancy and who meanwhile gives birth to a GOMER (Get Out of My Emergency Room) — a lifetime ward of the taxpayers — is a failure per se. She can’t take care of her own family, yet she apparently wants to be President.
#171 is what I’d call a fair critic.
The problem as Insty has pointed out in Iraq with excessive and unbalanced criticism is that it makes the receivers of that crit just ignore it all. And there are problems that need to be dealt with (although I suspect that Palin could do a better job than Obama, Biden, or McCain if she had gotten the job.)
But I’d say the Palinites (and I’d call myself one) are doing a good job of beating the dishonest attacks on the right into the ground. Some snide sniper sticks their head up and about 200 tons of TNT lands on their head. This is good.
This Defense of Sarah is basically a proxy fight for the real fight about control of the R party between the Base and the RINO losers.
As a side note, one writer said the varieties of the conservatives need to get together. Let me point out that if you take a socon and scratch him, you’ll find a practical minded libertarian and a real serious fiscon, and you won’t even have to scratch him to find a national security hawk. In other words, the Prototypical Conservative is a Socon.
Ditto, Smith. I no longer describe myself as Republican and I have no intention of voting for one until major changes are made. I may never pull a D lever but I now feel the exact same way about an R lever. In fact, given what they through at us, it’s my civic responsibility NOT to vote since voting implies approval.
This has been building for sometime but it’s the treatment of Palin that was the final straw for me.
No Martis, the funniest thing is you Kos Kool-Aiders thinking you’re witty.
The snobs can go straight to hell.
This is awesome. The right wing has become Caddyshack.
#181
BLARTY,
A masterpiece eh ? You are truly a cretinous Philistine…and, evidently, quite proud of it !
Blunder on B.B, Blunder on…
77/88
S.M.
This article almost brings me to tears. I don’t quite fit the profile of a Sarah Palin fan, being an ex-Marxist married to a professor at a small liberal arts college, etc. Sarah was a breath of fresh air as VP candidate. Much of the energy behind the “tea parties” and such is the desire to express our anger — not only at destructive Obama policies — but at those on the right who hate Sarah or find her distasteful. I no longer read anything written by Kathleen Parker or Peggy Noonan — whom I used to respect — and have stopped donating to the Rep. Party. But they don’t realize that Rep. voters like me are NO LONGER LISTENING TO THEM.
Many of the points made in the article have no bearing on the consistency of those on the right who criticized Palin. For example, consider the following passage:
“They said Sarah Palin wasn’t experienced enough — but, despite the fact that Obama has been in the White House for six months, he still has less executive experience than Palin. They said Palin spent too much time talking in platitudes — after America elected a man whose campaign primarily consisted of repeating the words “change” and “hope” over and over again.”
The article goes on to attribute this apparent inconsistency to Palin’s critics on the right. However, those on the right who criticized Palin due to her inexperience and apparent lack of policy knowledge were also highly critical of Obama for similar reasons. The fact that Obama won tells us nothing about the consistency of the arguments made by conservative Palin critics. These conservative critics arguably held some of the most consistent views over the course of the election.
tommy gunn:
“Even if she is never a serious candidate for President or Vice President, conservatives need Sarah Palin to “draw fire” from both the left and the right. Why? This is the best way to identify those cowards who we need to go after.”
Yeah, she can be like an Al Gore is to the democracts. Fly around and campaign for Republicans. Draw fire. Launch attacks… sell books to support herself. Make lots of money while helping (and influencing) the party. Its a cool gig and I think she’d enjoy it.
Jimmy Carter is ecstatic because he will no longer be the worst president in history.
Since Ronaldus Maximus ALL of our presidents have been Havard or Yale graduates. Is it any coincedence that the trend lines have all been downward?
John ‘Negotiated with the North Vietnamese’ Kerry – Al ‘I lived in a hotel in Washington DC with my Daddy the Senator’ Gore’. Give me a break. And yes the Bush’s come close to Eastern elitism – though GWB seemed like one of us most of the time.
Other than the imbecilic trolls, who among us doesn’t know ten people who would be better senators than Chris Dodd, John Kerry, Diane Feinstein, Arlen Specter, Lindsay Graham.
That’s why the Tea Party has legs. Real Americans are angry and ready to take the reins. Be afraid Big Government Liberals, and Rinos.
As a free people we are entitled to have real Americans elected to federal office. We need to stop the elite propagandizing and control.
—Overlord Soros is a harsh taskmaster, yes, but he pays by the dropping.—
Then Blarney Banketybowelmvt – you are becoming a rich man.
—A woman who believes in witchcraft, —
Behold – the left. First Sarah Palin belongs to a Christian snake handling church. Now she believes in witchcraft.
The left will say anything to have power over normal Americans.
One of the dirty little secrets that’s circled the cuckoo’s nest of sucker punches thrown at Sarah Palin since day one is that many of them originate from women on the right who, for whatever the reason cannot stand another woman that is attractive, successful and married to something besides an impotent girlie boy like the one that sleeps on their couch.
OMGosh, you reminded me of a post I left over at “Censorslist” during Election 2008.. Had to do with her looks.. I joked that conservative men might find themselves having to sneak out to vote for her if they like her.. Wasn’t being mean, just observing based on Human nature..
Having experienced “attack” in my own little World, I get more the feeling that she has stepped back to regroup.. WHEN she comes back more empowered, they will find they just thought she was a force to contend with previously.. Tell ‘em, “Ha-ha, good luck with that..!”
PS.. Dear Sarah, if you really are thinking of getting involved in anything disability, PLEASE align your thought process with ADAPT.. Respect and inclusion-wise, THEY have the interest of ALL persons with disabilities in their Hearts and Souls.. A quick starter tip: Lose the “special” ASAP.. We’re just.. “people”..
Warmest wishes from Talking Rock..
Funny thing red I am not from the left.
I know your small brain can not contemplate the idea that someone who is right leaning can disagree and dislike Palin.
I joined a 912 group which loves to vent and talk about “electing good people” and “throw the bums out” but in truth, Sarah Palin is the only citizen candidate. She came up from PTA to VP candidate. If we picked a good person from our group to run for anything higher than dog catcher, ACORN would be running $50K ads trying to slam them down.
I hope Sarah realizes that the GOP isn’t her friend and isn’t the future. They won’t be getting my support again.
170: Skippy-San You are such an evil person. You should think about an exorcism for yourself. It might help your inability to deal with the truth. Ms Palin has acheived quite a bit in her short political career.
She is quite intelligent. She is smart enough to move away from the frivolous law suites initiated by political operatives who are only trying to smear her. She is also maneuvering herself to be more of an effective agent of change in the Republican party. God knows it needs change. She can’t do that in Alaska. She knows what she is up against. Did you notice she does not need a teleprompter to delver a speech? One up on the Obama-Tzar.
As for her family, they are none of your business. You must have something against anyone who would join the military and serve their country. Her daughter gave birth to a a beautiful child. You probably hate for that too since people like yourself always opt for the courageous way out, abortion.
Your comments were unworthy of an educated person. Did you graduate from high school? Or did you move on to an institution of lower learning? You are not a gentleman nor a person with any integrity. But there is hope. You can always get a show on HBO.
Every time I hear Palin criticized from the right, that’s one more reminder of why I never send money to Republicans anymore… until I see genuine, principle-based conservatism on a regular basis coming from my party, I’ll just sit out the money part. I get LOTS of pitches for money, and every DAMN one of them goes straight to the round file.
Late 40′s, high income, Texas resident– you’d think my family would be someone the Republican party would want to keep.
But the way they talk about Palin, tea parties and citizens in action for conservative principles in general, I have the very distinct feeling they hold their snobbish noses at the very THOUGHT of participation by people like me.
NOTE TO REPUBLICAN PARTY– the Q@#$%^&* feeling is MUTUAL.
And NONE of you are safe in the upcoming primaries, you b@st@rds.
#150 Sally
The “Health Care” bill being argued about, that just passed out of committee in the House, and which will be voted on after the recess unless we put the fear of G-d in our Congress-critters during the recess [more and more Democrats are cancelling all public appearances to avoid dealing with angry constituents] is NOT H.R. 15. The bill we are dealing with is H.R. 3200.
Go to the Library of Congress’ database at thomas.loc.gov. They had a direct link to H.R. 3200 on their front page, but if it is gone; they have a search box. Type it in [use the periods after H and R], hit search by bill #, and then hit search.
You will get the access page for the bill. It offers it as html from the Library of Congress, or as a PDF file from the Government Printing Office. Get the PDF, because that is the version that shows the page numbers.
Every single one of the list of atrocities in the first 500 pages that has been circulating around the net is there. Read them yourself.
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Returning to the main point of the article. We Conservatives no longer have any reason to believe that we have a home in the Republican party. They hate us as much or more than the Democrats. So be it. Our loyalty is to the country and Constitution, not to a group of bureaucrats at the top of the party. Someone further up the thread likened both parties in DC as members of the Cosa Nostra, “this Thing of ours”. They are right. And since the Republican party is part of that Thing of theirs; perforce it is nothing of ours and we owe it nothing any more.
Subotai Bahadur
208. rbell:
“Did you notice she does not need a teleprompter to delver a speech?”
Did you notice her incoherent speech?
Have you noticed it resembles the speech of a drunk?
what happened?
208. rbell:
“Did you notice she does not need a teleprompter to delver a speech?”
Did you notice her incoherent speech?
Did you notice it resembles the speech of a drunk?
If she doesn’t run in 2012, I’ll write her name in. If she runs and isn’t nominated, I’ll write her name in. At any rate I won’t be donating any more to the RNC until it is clear where they stand, and what I’ve heard from Michael Steele is not encouraging. i.e. When asked what he thought of Palin for president he commented something like, “Oh there are lots of good governors out there…….” the same goes for McCain and other so-call republicans leaders.
So much hope and optimism in someone with virtually no track record. She looks good, carries herself well, and says what you want to hear (as long as you ignore that faint nagging thought that she really has no idea what she’s talking about). Yeah, let’s propel her towards the Oval Office!
My God… if she’s the best we have, we are all &^%&%ed.
Sara Palin is a useful touchstone. For example, she has already shown why Peggy Noonan, Kathleen Parker and David Frum are essentially dead to me. She has demonstrated that Andrew Sullivan is insane. On a personal level, I find that if a mention of her name causes a hate filled rant or cackles of glee at how she was treated, I have learned all that I need to know about someone.
Sarah Palin is great, she proves that the right really is so stupid and superficial that now anyone with any brains can at best pity them as left of the bell curve crackpots.
myth buster:
“If by “believes in witchcraft,” you mean that Sarah Palin believes that such a thing as witchcraft exists, then yes, she does, and so does every Bible-believing Christian. Witchcraft is seeking supernatural power from dark forces and it is real, no matter how absurd it may seem.”
Myth buster, that is a totally hypocritical name, you are nothing but the dimmest of myth promoters. You already lied when you used the word “Every”. So if all that is true, should we start burning witches again? You have childlike, 0 dimensional worldview which is why you support her and gravitate to fundamentalism.
Except for a few trolls, seminar whack-a-billys and Move-On lackeys this is a pretty stable bunch of folks. All of which means I’m not alone. The next RNC solicitor will receive some bad news from the Dumbplumber. I just sent your donation to Sarah to do whatever she needs to do.
Gilligan,
Palin proves to me that people like you are so petty and stupid, that I must learn to accept and understand you rather than despise you for your childish pettiness. You are so anti-intellectual and fanatic that you can’t accept that anyone who thinks she is a lousy choice for president can be anything but evil
She was put in to pander to small minds like you. Get over it!
Betrayed? Who the heck speaks for me as if I’m betrayed!?
STFU. You don’t speak for me! Sarah Palin speaks for me and I dang sure don’t feel betrayed by her.
Governor Palin lost a lot of credibility with me when she resigned. Believe the resignation cost her any hope of being a successful presidential candidate.
Sarah: Non Illigitimous Carborundum!
I’m surprised no one has mentioned the porno someone made called “Nailin’ Paylin,” with a look-a-like no less.
Had that happened to any other politician, there woulda been an outcry. Happens to former Gov Palin, and people seem to smile and wink and watch.
Shameful.
Maybe liberals were afraid of her running because she’s an idiot and republicans didn’t seem to care. Again.
I’ve developed some sympathy for Palin over the past few months — not only has she had to deal with all this enormous pressure of hope and faith placed on her by disgruntled old-school conservatives, but also one investigation after another in her home state, plus lots of dismissive and cruel criticism by members of her own party. In contrast, Tina Fey’s imitations of Palin seem rather good humored.
But the Republican party is not has not been for a long time the party of intellectuals and increasingly, for good reason, is also being seen as the “anti-science” party to boot. Palin is much more in keeping with I consider the “good conservative” — being mostly concerned with fiscal responsibility, personal freedoms, family, a healthy economy, and a strong military. Someone like that I can have a beer with because I know people like that. Compare her to a “new-school” conservatives like a Glenn Beck or a Michelle Malkin — people who eye-rollingly fake knowledgeability to just relentlessly spew out the most insane and often purely malicious rubbish, and to a very disturbingly large fan base.
So all things considered, Palin and people like her, represent true, honest conservatism, and where the Republican party should return to away from all their neocon, bizarro nonsense that has served only to weaken the country, polarize people, and obstruct getting anything done.
As an aside, that comment of about how “liberals like Ted Kennedy can overcome despicable incidents like Chappaquiddick and emerge unscathed” is absolute, crackpot rubbish, especially in terms of Kennedy — how may times and in how many different venues has Chappaquiddick been brought up now, never mind how it impacted his plans to run for President as his brothers had? Jeez Louise…..
The comparisons to Reagan are awful. Reagan understood conservatism at a level where he could explain its relationship to both libertarianism and religious ideas; he understood it at a solid philosophical level and knew how to communicate it, which made him very difficult to debate. Sarah Palin holds contempt for educated people in big cities, whereas Reagan won these voters by landslides. Sarah Palin’s form of Ricky Bobby Conservatism is nothing more than a series of talk radio-friendly slogans, and she would get shredded in any actual debate where she might be confronted with examples of limitations and even failures of conservative economic or social policies.
I was excited about her at first; I spent some time in Alaska while she was Governor there, and I was impressed by her pragmatism. But the Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric interviews were absolutely painful. Those were not difficult questions, but she came across as a good-hearted, sincere person who does not read.
Sarah Palin should be supported in response to attacks from the left, but to say she is above criticism because she makes the Nascar crowd feel warm and tingly all over? How does she make people in cities feel? How does she make Hispanics feel? Does she appeal to any other demographics that would be needed to win an election outside of Alaska?
I am certain she is a fantastic person in a million different ways, but seriously- is this the best that conservatism has to offer?
“Feeling betrayed?”
Let’s not over-dramatize – the word “betrayed” is a little over-the top; “disappointed” will do quite well.
I can’t really say I feel regularly “betrayed” by anyone or anything – the times I have been truly betrayed by anyone important, I can count on one hand without using all the fingers.
Anger is one of the Seven Deadlies – I refuse to give myself over to it, no matter who’s in office. Just a happy camper, I guess….
228 Trouble . . . Hmm, I like that.
We don’t hate Sarah Palin because she’s beautiful. We hate Sarah Palin because she’s a stupid twit.