Why Obama and the Dems Blundered in Wisconsin
For in the end, the images and messages tell the story. The showdown in Madison pits pampered public employees against hard-pressed taxpayers. It portrays union workers as an angry mob against those seeking orderly legislative deliberation. It paints Democratic lawmakers as outlaws on the run, undermining the democratic process. It launched a national debate about the generous salaries and benefits for government workers during a time of economic shortages. And it showcased school teachers who abandoned their children in favor of narrow, partisan political gain.
This is a bad unraveling of a political campaign.
The miscalculation by Democrats is understandable. They still believed Wisconsin was one of the key populist centers for Midwest radicalism. Living on history long past, they envisioned Madison as ground zero for a resurrection of progressivism. It was, after all, the home for progressives’ champions, whose heroes included the La Follette family, led by former Governor Robert La Follette, Sr. The La Follette family has been a radical left Wisconsin political dynasty for the last century. Robert Sr. ran for president under the Progressive Party; his son succeeded him as governor. His other son, Robert, Jr., served in the state Senate for 22 years and led the pre-WWII isolationist movement, a precursor to the present day anti-war movement. In 2010, Doug La Follette was the only surviving Democrat to win statewide office in the November election.
But there also is the lure of Madison, Wisconsin for radicals, many of whom populate the political leadership of the Democratic Party and the unions. Madison was the Midwest home for the far-left counterculture and for the violent, revolutionary Students for a Democratic Society. In 1970, an anti-war van loaded with six barrels of explosives detonated outside the Mathematics building at the University of Wisconsin, killing a physicist who was working late at night. The bombing became a sensation for SDS, and overnight the four suspects were put on the FBI’s Most Wanted List. During one of the many Madison political protests, there was a three-day riot that led to the arrest, twice, of a student activist named Paul Soglin. He was later rewarded by being repeatedly elected mayor of Madison.
Surely behind this long history of progressive left politics, Democrats and union organizers might have thought Madison would be the first place to strike against the belt-tightening moves of a new, untested Republican governor. A line was drawn in the sand, and Madison would become ground zero in the unions’ effort to turn around their political prospects.
But they perhaps were tone deaf about Madison, just as they have been tone deaf nationally. They forgot that Wisconsin has been turning from blue, to purple, to bright red. In the 1990s it was former Republican Wisconsin Governor Tommy Thompson who drew another line in the sand over welfare reform. He won, and President Bill Clinton signed into law a sweeping change that sought to reward work over welfare. Thompson also was a champion for school choice, a campaign bitterly fought by the same teachers’ union that abandoned their classrooms last week for partisan gain.
Then came the latest 2010 election in Wisconsin in which there was a statewide sweep for Republicans. Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI), long considered safe, was defeated. The governor and lieutenant governor swept to power. Today, five of the eight members of the state’s U.S. congressional delegation are Republicans. The sole Democrat in the government is Doug La Follette, who is secretary of state. The legislature is in Republican hands. And the architect of the victorious 2010 Wisconsin campaign was GOP Chairman Reince Priebus.
So the showdown in Wisconsin may assume national proportions. Priebus now will aim a national campaign against President Obama and the Democrats. And the Democrats chose Priebus’ state as their launching pad to smash Republicans.
The Wisconsin battle is not over. But it could be the beginning of a moment of clarity in which a small but entrenched special interest — government workers — is dislodged by fed-up taxpayers. And it could be a contagion that spreads to other states across the country.
UPDATE: Politico’s Ben Smith and Maggie Haberman report this morning on how the unions’ high-risk Wisconsin strategy may come at a potentially steep cost: “Some strategists and labor officials watching the protest conflagration from the outside are beginning to fret that a large-scale defeat in Wisconsin will have a devastating ripple effect, weakening labor state by state throughout the rest of the country.”






“But it could be the beginning of a moment of clarity in which a small but entrenched special interest — government workers — is dislodged by fed-up taxpayers.”
From your lips to God’s ears….
Here’s an analogy those DINO’s passing out fake sick notes should understand: Removing warts and cancers is more difficult than cutting off the head or shrinking the growth. You have to dig out the roots and aggressively search for metastization.
Doing nothing is much worse. The non-productive growths will eventually starve off enough healthy tissue until the organism dies.
I ran a public employees union (AFSCME affiliate) for three years. My experience there changed me into a red-blooded conservative.
Your dues money goes to lobby for abortion rights, affirmative action, government schools, government healthcare, welfare rights, “peace through weakness”, and your dues also finance the campaigns of like-minded socialists/liberals.
The public employee environment ( state, federal, city, school district, university etc), are semi-socialist environments, where the level-playing field is code for “lowest common denominator”which means a terrific worker gets thew same raise as a incompentent worker.
The leftists just can’t accept the fact that the vast majority of Americans don’t share their world view. Strategically, their line in the sand in Madison creates nothing but contempt. This was the wrong battle, fought in the wrong place at the wrong time. And Obama is up to his eyeballs in backlash. Just when you think the Democrats can’t get any dumber, they totally redeem themselves. When O’reilly reads the polls tomorrow, it’ll be hilarious. Obama and the gang that can’t shoot straight.
Reminds me of another politcal foot shooter, John Kerry.
You may not remember Kerry accepting his party’s nomination when he ran against Bush, parading a bunch of supposed military supporters on the stage, and saying the words, “Reporting for duty.” Trying to create a war hero narrative.
I’ll never forget it.
Working for Bush back then, we all knew Kerry had just stepped on a land mine.
Admiral Roy Hoffmann, skipper for the Swift Boat operations, already had his first commercial in the can, and the rest would sink the SS Kerry like two torpedoes broadside.
Kerry’s war story exaggerations about medals thrown on the White House lawn and that idiotic Christmas in Cambodia lie primed the pump; His Genghis Khan statements about the murderous, inhuman U.S. military in Vietnam while we had prisoners in the Hanoi Hilton did him in.
Now Obama sets himself up to fall like a blind roofer by squealing “they’re trying to kill the unions.” Call that Presidential? Not me. I call it political suicide.
I thought you left?
Sure, Kerry was revealed as a gigolo, liar, and technically a traitor, in visiting the NVN negotiators at the Paris Peace Talks while still a Naval Officer. But I don’t seem to recall his loosing all 50 States in the ’04 election, being recalled from his Senate seat by outraged Bay State voters, or being shunned like a Republican on the MSM. If you define being punished for outrageous anti-American behavior as loosing a close Presidential election, retaining your Senate seat, and achieving a certain social standing, I sure don’t. The lesson here is that Leftists pay little-to-no price for the most egregious behavior, while rightists may be publically destroyed by obvious lies. The vast majority of people, without strong political convictions, don’t have to ponder that choice very long. That is the reason that effective conservatives are hounded out of public life and even after retirement or death — it’s not about them, but to hammer home the dangers of taking conservative stands to the ordinary, non-committed, mainstream folks.
“Loosing” = losing
as is loozin
People still do have morals.
This is exactly why we have the system of “double standards” in America. If those on the left, like Kerry and the Clintons, were scrutinized the same way as those on the right, i.e. Bush, Palin, they’d all be run out of politics if not jailed. Then we would only have a one-party system and that wouldn’t be good for the country (so I’m told).
You could include on your list of glory and honour that other “Democrat” continuously elected into the Senate. The paragon of intellect, probity, decency and “love” of the People, especially of female sex, Edward Kennedy. An earlier graduate of Haarvard who didn’t quite make it as President for the “Democrats”, but a near miss. Re-elected to the Senate even after Chappaquiddick. What is it with the electors in Massachusetts they elect again and again, as representative of them to the country and the world these publicly sneering psychopaths. Massachusetts, One of the original colonies that managed a revolution against Court and King.
Kennedy …, Kerry very successful gigolo with a past reminiscent of Obama’s, and Yale graduate not native to Massachusettes Clinton who did “not have sex with that woman” (or one must suppose with any of those women?). And all these the favourite of card-carrying feminists. Nice.
The Three Musketters?
Kennedy earned C grades at the private Milton Academy, but was admitted to Harvard as a “legacy” — his father and older brothers had attended there, so the younger and dimmer Kennedy’s admission was virtually assured. While attending, he was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him. While expelled Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. His father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England, pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea, where a war was raging. Kennedy was assigned to Paris, never advanced beyond the rank of Private, and returned to Harvard upon being discharged.
Do you think that if I tried to cheat my state government of $500,000 I would be able to just wave it off as absentmindedness?
Was kerryklown’s new yacht named “integrity”?
Yeah, it was with a small “i” however.
I believe it was none other than Kerry’s VP candidate John Edwards who dared us all with, “I challenge you to talk to the men who served with John Kerry. They will tell you what kind of man he is!” Or some such.
So the men were found and they indeed told us what kind of man Kerry is.
Now, all can see the kind of man “His Serene Majesty, the Emperor Barack Hussein Obama II, Lord of the Flies, Keeper of the Hoops, and Protector of the Holy Cities of Honolulu and Chicago” is.
(Quote from David Kahane at National Review.)
Wasn’t it Napoleon who said,”Never interrupt your enemy when he is in the middle of making a mistake”?…or words to that effect?
For some reason Sun Tzu sticks in my tiny mind… I could be wrong, tho.
Regardless of who said it, tho, it’s wise counsel. I’ll make the popcorn.
It’s often attributed to Bonaparte’, but it was actually said by Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson while watching the French fleet prior to Trafalgar. They came in in a line formation, the British fleet separated into two elements and cut the line in two, and the French ended up getting blown out of the water. Their mistake? Formating on the basis of assuming the British would do what they were doing, because that was the “proper way” to fight a battle.
Nelson didn’t care what was “proper”. He just wanted to win.
cheers
eon
I stood for hours in the crypt of St Paul’s in London, just taking in the history of this great man. It was a shame that the I.R.A. leveled the column in Grafton Street in Dublin.
Gerry.
It was on O’Connell Street, right in front of the GPO, on the north side of the Liffey.
Grafton Street is on the south side of the Liffey, just off St. Stephen’s Green.
After the pillar was blown up, Irish Army engineers leveled the site after deciding the remains of the monument were too unstable to be left in place.
The site is now occupied by “The Stiletto in the Ghetto” (The Spire of Dublin). A small statue of Anna Livia (“The Floozie in the Jacuzzi”, “The Whore in the Sewer”) was moved to make room for the Spire.
(Not trying to be a pedant, or anything, I just love the way Dubliners rename their monuments.)
Thanks, I stand corrected from Grafton street.
When the IRA laid down the pillar they did virtually no damage to the surrounding area.
When the Irish army blasted the base they broke windows for miles around.
Just saying!!!!!
If you want to read an hilarious, pretty serious, account of statues in Dublin, well, here’s yer man:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statues_in_Dublin
I’m not trying to do an “A moose once bit my sister” bit, but this is really good stuff, a lot of which I’d forgotten – I left Ireland a quarter century ago, and have only made occasional visits back.
I mean, I’m sorry about Nelson and his pillar and all, but, dear Lord, some of the antics thereafter…..
Where are you Grammarcommando? No such word as “formating”. If your gonna win the argument, then you gotta command the language.
While a Google search for the word will ask you if you wanted to search for “formatting”, “formating” is the transitive form of “formate”, which in military terminology means “to arrange or deploy units or elements thereof preparatory to a maneuver or engagement.”
Please note that in this context, “engagement” does not mean the result of presenting a ring to a young lady while kneeling. It means something that is generally much less pleasant, and a good deal noisier, than the average marriage. Also, it rarely lasts as long.
cheers
eon
Never under estimate your enemy, or what they will do. If things go bad in Wisconsin and they call out the national guard. That opens the door for Obama to call for Marshall law, which could prove to be very interesting. Obama is not the one leading this fiasco, he is just the front man. What the unions are really worried about is that if the state stops taking dues out of the union members pay check. Then the members would have to write a check every month to the union, and that is what scares the h-ll of union leadership.
skip, your exactly right on in your assessment and funny thing is not one media outlet is talking about this little know fact, not even the union are not discussing this very issue because they know iwhen this passes there dues are gone and when there dues are gone so will the money to buy off the Democratic party Obama included.
Now it’s not a matter of if Gov. Walkers budget gets passed, it’s just a matter of when and when it passes the next fire to break out is the State of Ohio where Gov. kaisch Budget if flat out busting his Employee’s Union now add these 2 States together and you have lost Billions of Dollars in Union Dues between now and 2012. Now remember there will be perhaps a total of 20+ States wanting to do exactly as Wisconsin & Ohio are out to do and call it a Sunami of lost Union Dues, stick a fork in them their DONE !!!!
Make that MARTIAL law as in Mars, the Roman god of war.
More fitting, eh?
To Anonymous, so sorry my intellect is nowhere near yours, but the first thing you learn in life is to follow the money to find the truth about any subject.
The big problem for Obama, who needed to do this to keep his union backers appeased and energized, is that Walker isn’t pulling any sleight of hand. The Governor was just elected with a 6% margin (not a landslide, but a clear victory) running on exactly the program he is now attempting to enact. Wisconsin elected him to do what he is doing.
So Obama finds himself on the opposite side, not only of history, but of Wisconsin voters. He is fully involved – through OFA, DNC, and his union pals – in trying to block what they voted to do.
How does a Democrat find his way to an Electoral College majority without Wisconsin? The last to manage it was Wilson in 1916.
Might help to remember that a 6% margin probably translates to something like 11% in real live eligible voters. That’s another story the MSM is keen on burying.
And that vote tally included liberal vote fraud; just think how much more than 6% it is, if you clear the fraud! Could well be a landslide.
At this point, it seems to be rather difficult to imagine anything but utterly complete and total annihilation of the Democrat brand. Walker is believed to be a rock. The daily hemorrhaging brought on by the Fleebaggers will be recognized by Dem leadership sooner rather than later and they will have to try to find a way to return to Madison and play victim. Other states will see the ground as favorable for similar legislation.
It’s finally happening. The web of lies that Obama has spun are all beginning to unravel on him.
It’s morning in America.
Brilliant analysis. Just one thing (and I’m sure you’re aware of this disconnect between al-Bama’s message and action):
“There is nothing more unseemly that to see a president serve as healer in Tucson and a political hack in Madison.”
al-Bama was also serving as a “good cop” political hack in Tucson as well — his whole design there was to pit emotional observers against the TEA party whom he set up as the straw man assassin (when in reality it was a nihilistic left-winger who committed the murders and injuries). AND HE DELIVERED THIS “HEALING MESSAGE” AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA WHERE HIS MANDARINATE INDOCTRINATORS HAVE, DO AND WILL CONTINUE THAT MESSAGE IN ORDER TO GENERATE DIVISION BETWEEN US. To put it simply:
Lenin: Class-based International Socialism
Hitler: Race-based National Socialism
Obama: Class- and Race-based Post-National Socialism
Lenin: Class-based International Socialism
Hitler: Race-based National Socialism
Obama: Class- and Race-based Post-National Socialism
Good lines. I’m gonna use ‘em.
In Wisconsin, Obama finally cut the cheese so the rest of the country got a nose-full. The Tea Party will ride the stench to victory in 2012. The goons forgot to remember one essential thing: IT’S NOT THEIR MONEY. The left has been laying claim to other people’s money for so long that in this great Obama Recession they forgot to shut their traps, demanding and bellowing for more. All the while their fellow citizens are losing houses, cars, sacrificing college careers for their children, getting food stamps and wondering if they will ever be employed again. The dichotomy is too glaring and this last stand is a gift to the right. Like the Town Halls which showed the Ruling Elite to be a bunch of arrogant bumbling out of touch overlords, this latest left wing assault on the struggling citizens who are not members of the Union Nomenklatura will be the theme of this year’s fight to educate and gather more troops to our side. You are so right. Whoever engineered this latest public relations disaster really stepped in it. Let’s hope it continues.
So we all know democracy ends when the voters figure out how to vote themselves unlimited bread and circuses at the expense of those who are deemed to have “Enough.” But the public trough parasites will never have enough. Perfect way to kill the golden goose, which showed how captitalism built on creating more wealth at lower cost by competitive methods, raised all ships to economic height unimagined even under fuedalism, which itself was an advance over the hunter/gatherer and slave economies that preceeded it. The fight is clear but with the benefits of election fraud so ingrained among the bottom feeders, and Obama being guaranteed a huge majority among minorites, unions, new immigrants and government workers and dependents, and with the taxpayer class shrinking, victory by class committed to economic leadership and advance, and scared to death of seeing capitalism slide backward toward Fuedalism and the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse that ran rampant during that stage, the outcome of the fight is not all that certain. The best strategy is to paint the government parasites as ultimately racist which they are. If they have to fight over a shrinking pie they will side with their own pockets and families, and not those of the minorities for whom the self-interested government bureaucrats are the only thing separating them from starvation and disease. It certainly is not self-reliance and self-development. Well, anyway, that’s the wedge we have to drive for.
It was indeed a well crafted plan, Mr. Pollack. Unions across the country have been assembling this playbook for years: Line up the troops and transport, alert the compliant media, don’t forget the signs and the lousy tee shirts.
As you so ably point out, however, it didn’t work. They picked Madison, for the hospitible environent. They can’t or won’t recognize the changing reality around the country.
Why? Because this is a movement that has never really been able to evolve. They have trouble adapting, not only in theory and philosophy, but in practice and leadership, to new conditions. The people running the show on the Left are not first rate, and they are like any other potentate, middle east or middle west. I agree with you completely that to them, what they saw looked perfect. They’ll spin it hard. But they won’t address what they can’t spin.
The very real but dangerous possibility is that they won’t change their tactics, just try more of it. 21st century socialists do not admit failure any more than Stalin did. They also channel his spirit when reacting to criticism.
Speaking of Uncle Joe, they’ll probably try some more muscle while they are at it. They’ve been ‘blooding’ their street crews for a few years now, giving them a taste; see who likes it. The days leading to November 2012 should be exciting.
“The Wisconsin battle is not over.”
Is there any person that can seriously say that they would not be surprised if Obama is elected to a second term?
Until all of the citizens of our nation can rise in unison with conviction and determination against the kind of crap going on in Wisconsin, no one can say that the Democrats, in particular Obama have blundered about anything.
I agree. We should never underestimate the stupidity of vast numbers of American voters. How else could we have gotten Obama?
Let us stop being stupid with our approach to these protests and have our RNC do some work to fully exploit the gifts that are being presented to us. We see the protestors acting like zombies and idiots, mouthing their chants and refusing to answer questions. How about providing to the public the facts and figures so the public can really get into a frothing anti union mood. I mean what does these zombies make on average per year? What is the amount of their retirement as a percentage of their final years income?How little do they pay towards their medical and retirement benefits? How much vacation do they get? No one asks these questions. We do not have the AMMO we need to really get the elecorate worked up. If the average joe in the private sector with a 401k worth $150,000, who has no job or is underemployed, who has no medical benefits etc can see with clarity how these zombies are ripping off the taxpayer, the shit will hit the fan with full force. However our RNC under Steele never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity. We want to fight these freaks. Give us the AMMO and talking points to do it effectively!!!
Link here to view statistics on Michelle Malkin’s blog detailing WI teacher’s salary and benefit information:
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/17/watch-wisconsin-part-iv-the-salary-info-big-labor-doesnt-want-you-to-see/
The RNC is so full of oldies,like McCain that it is like a large bus driving down a lane with sharp curves. It will have trouble. The RNC is not ready for the fight.It is too full of old people who won’t do what must be done for fear of upsetting someone.Get the young into the leadership and fight a war that is good.
Evening Capt Grumpy.Have you noticed the fits that the new Tea Party members of congress are giving John Boehner and the rank and file elite in the Republican party. These newbies refuse do do the bidding of the old RINO McCain and Grahamnesty types. So refreshing to see. Their performance should give us all hope
Yes. Most of teh GOP leadeship has not figured out that Obama provoked a response (Tea Party) that has potentially changed the entire political landscape. They cling to what they know and are familiar with, and are perfectly capable of giving that advantage away.
Boehner is trying, McConnell is, too, but less so. Getting rid of Steele was a good move, but the new party leadership has only been in place a month and has not had a chance to show anything. They better start, fast.
Obama starts with about 20% of the electorate no matter what he does, based on racial and class voting by people who really don’t give a dam about substance. Add in vote and fundraising fraud at least as extensive as 2008, and the weakened but still compliant media, and the opposition has to dominate the votes that are actually in play by about 2:1, against an incumbent. That is a huge undertaking.
According to reports by people on the scene in Madison, a couple of female aides to Republican legislators have been roughed up in at least two separate instances. Talk about “Egypt in Wisconsin!” They were trying to get through the crowds to their respective offices when they were jostled, pawed, and threatened.
The incidents were nothing as egregious as what happened to Lara Logan, but they were ugly and scary. Too bad no one filmed it.
Almost, I begin to hope that the country’s slide into socialism/statism is slowed, or even reversed. . . . but I have no faith in the Republican Party,who always manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. . . . soon the RINOs will be screaming for “principled compromise”and the Teaparty Revolution will be derailed. I will continue to stock up on the items needed for survival. . .
Nothing wil ever change unless the Repub Party is utterly consumed in whole by a new Party…The “Constitution Party” or the TParty.
Not until we completely deconstruct and eliminate the Repub Party and form a new Party to replace it out of whole cloth.
We need to replace it with the “Constitution Party” or absorb it into a totally invigorated T-Party. The “R’s” have to go. And it’s time to get just as committed and nasty as our adversaries are.
Hiccup….
Not until we completely deconstruct and eliminate the Repub Party and form a new Party to replace it out of whole cloth.
We need to replace it with the “Constitution Party” or absorb it into a totally invigorated T-Party. The “R’s” have to go. And it’s time to get just as committed and nasty as our adversaries are.
The dems are on the ropes, but the Republican party is in danger of shattering completely.
I consider the Wisconsin insurrection by the Iron Triangle of public-employee unions, Democratic “strategists”, and Democratic political hacks like Jesse Jackson (and The One) as another example of Dogma-Induce Tunnel Vision. They’re doing it because their dogma demands they do so.
The Democratic Leadership Council was disbanded last week, having “completed its mission” of bringing the Party back into the “mainstream of American values”, according to the Democratic National Committee. In fact, it did nothing of the sort.
The DLC told the Dems, “You have to reconnect with the people in what you call ‘Flyover Country’ by respecting their views and mores if you want to win elections and move us forward”.
The DNC replied, “Screw that! We have the ‘enlightened elite” like ourselves on the coasts, in the universities, and in the media. We have the money from the blue bloods in New York and Hollywood. And we have the minority voting blocs we can assemble to overrun the rubes in OpryLand. We can take and hold Washington that way, dictate to the Great Unwashed how things are going to be, and if they don’t like it, F**k ‘Em!”
It worked with Clinton and The One. The fact that it failed twice with Gore and Kerry is something they’d rather not talk about.
This is an example of the triumph of dogma over what the Red Army used to call “objective conditions”. One difference between an army in combat and politicians is that politicians rarely suffer casualties if they get it wrong. Which make hewing to the dogma very easy, no matter what’s really happening “on the ground”.
Wisconsin is another example of this. Their dogma dictates that having seized power through the public-employee unions and their (former) Dem majority in government there, they must do whatever it takes to keep it. The fact that doing so in a blatantly stupid and borderline-unlawful manner is bad PR is irrelevant; they are fighting to save their “Glorious People’s Socialist Revolution” and the “Radiant Future” it will deliver. The news media, faithful acolytes all, will play it that way.
And Us Poor Rubes Here In Flyover Country just don’t get it, so they’ll do us the big favor of ignoring us. (They’ll get around to punishing us for our apostasy later.)
Their dogma must never be questioned. And it literally prevents them from seeing reality as it actually is.
When “progressives” insist on behaving in ways which make no sense, you have to remember that they are not using the same reasoning processes you are. Once you understand that, their behavior is no smarter, but it is at least comprehensible.
In the same sense that someone who insists they are seeing rainbow-colored dinosaurs is comprehensible once you realize that they’re tripping on LSD. The only difference is that unlike the dogma-addicted Democrats, the guy on acid will, eventually, come back down.
But both will have flashbacks forever.
clear ether
eon
The COTUS, Community Organizer of the United States, and his cohorts and enablers in the Democrat Party, is hard at work in Wisconsin. Over the last two years, the Democrats have exposed themselves for the lawless scoundrels they are.
Any tactic is acceptable to them in advancing their socialist agenda, the public be damned.
Let’s hope Americans are paying attention. 2012 can’t get here too soon.
Excellent comment. Thanks.
What part of “WE ARE BROKE” doesn’t the unions, it’s workers, the Democratic party, and Obama really, really, get? In the old days, unions simply demanded that you raise taxes, especially property taxes, to give them what they wanted. But with about 10% unemployment (higher in many states) and a lot of people out of a job for a year or more, it’s hard to sell the idea that these people have to pay higher property taxes just so his teacher neighbor can have FREE health insurance and huge FREE pensions. Tax the wealthy more? The Democrats are not coming to the uncomfortable conclusion that the debts of the states and the Federal Government are so bad now that even if you taxed the “wealthy” (and that definition keeps changing by the day) at 100% it won’t even come close to closing these deficits. Nope, the American public has finally run out of patience with labor unions and their selfish workers who expect everyone else to pick up the tab for them.
And what enrages people even more is that these unions refuse to do what workers in the private sector have been doing for years, which is contribute to their health care and their pensions. So the union’s refusal to do this is getting very little sympathy from people who have been FORCED to do this for a long, long, time now. Nope, Americans have had enough with labor unions and if the Democrats keep pushing this issue, they are going to get the class warfare battle they’ve been wanting ever since Obama ran for President. And trust me, they don’t want to go down that road. It never ends well for anybody and it only serves to divide the nation even more than it’s divided today. The fools are lighting a blowtorch in a gunpowerder factory and they don’t even know it.
“What part of “WE ARE BROKE” doesn’t the unions, it’s workers, the Democratic party, and Obama really, really, get?”
They get it just fine. They don’t care.
In their view, it is us or them. We are their enemies. Their morality is self. Anybody who gets in the way is going to be punished.
I know people think saying it that way is over the top and unbalanced. But look at the situation with GM. The UAW drove the company into bankruptcy, then the thug president overrode the law, cheated the bond holders out the funds they were legally owed (the stock holders had already been busted), awarded the business to the the UAW, and has since funnelled in about a hundred billion that we know of and god knows how much we don’t know about, which comes directly from taxpayers who don’t support the crime in any way and then is stuffed straight to Union coffers. And we aren’t even close to the end of the theft in progress for that corrupt enterprise.
What I say isn’t over the top. It’s the unvarnished truth. Sure, some of the teachers seem like nice ladies who like kids. So is Nancy Pelosi. So were many aparatchiks in Soviet Russia. The sweet lady teachers are happily and greedily supporting the confiscation of your money for themselves, and are perfectly willing to break the law to get it.
You can’t support theft and then go ballistic when you are finally told to stop and still be a nice person. Period.
In many places, teachers have union dues stolen from their pay checks whether they choose to join the union or not.
I’ve read a lot of comments from WI union members over the course of the last week and I find it surprising that so many of them seem not to understand the most damaging, to unions, of Walker’s proposed reforms. The unionistas almost exclusively complain about their loss of collective bargaining for everything but base salary and act as though this is their Armageddon. In my opinion this is a point on which Walker could negotiate if he wanted to appear to be making concessions.
The real damage to the unions are:
1. The end of mandatory union membership to work for state or local WI government. How many people will opt out of the union, keeping their money for themselves and thus depriving union coffers of money for Democrats?
2. The end of the government collecting union dues on behalf of the unions. Just as Democrats need employers to deduct our taxes they also need employers to deduct union dues so that members pay scant attention to the transaction. If members have to actually sit down and write checks to the union and see how that impacts their personal finances then refer to 1 above.
3. Requiring that union representation be voted upon by secret ballot yearly. This measure is the anti-card check. Just as the Left is moving one way, Governor Walker is aggressively moving the other way. Without mandatory union membership and no army of thugs to stand over their shoulders, yet, while voting for union representation many members are likely to vote against union representation.
The locals may not realize that these and not their collective bargaining “rights” are their real death knell but Obama and the national union establishment sure do. That’s why they’re getting involved in this situation. The three reasons cited above have the potential to decimate union membership and thus union contributions to the Democrat party and the union bosses and the Democrat party know it and are fighting for their long term survival.
You got it !!!!!!!
Game theorists would call this a mainchance play (as opposed to “minimax”). Obama and his minions have decided to play for the highest possible return, and have accepted extremely high risk as the price. From here on Long Island, it looks as if their gamble has failed, but there are still moves to be made: among other Wisconsin unions, including the police and firemen, and among unions in other states, which might just declare sympathy campaigns if they feel the “infection could spread.”
The Wisconsin teachers’ union might be playing a card of its own: the fomenting of a “crisis.” Rahm Emanuel’s observation isn’t a bit of wisdom confined to him; leftists have understood the political value of crisis-mongering for decades. The “global warming / climate change / climate chaos” nonsense is only the most lurid of recent examples.
How this will play out depends on factors both local to Madison and geographically well dispersed. In particular, I await the arrival of SEIU “thug buses” dispatched to shut down any populist counter-demonstrations. It certainly wouldn’t be unprecedented. Nor is it clear how such a development would best be met.
Starting with the teachers is good tactics because everyone can see how bad their “product” is. How galling for parents who work to have to take a personal day to babysit kids who can’t go to school because their pampered teachers are down at the statehouse waving signs…..To say nothing of the work their kids are missing.
http://www.hslda.org/orgs/Default.aspx?State=WI
This is huge! Notwithstanding the few typos/.doc errors this piece answers all my questions that weren’t answered by all the other PJM pieces on this subject. What would it take to get this piece on the greater national stage? Placing its link on Drudge would be a start. Thank you.
It is “coming out” that Gov. Walker of Wisconsin is funded by the Billionaire Koch brothers. Will we be discovering the same about Snyder? Snyder valiantly CUTS taxes for businesses, as he RAISES taxes for retirees, what a MAN. What is with this idea that cutting taxes (giving money to) for RICH people is moral, but giving unemployment (giving money to) to WORKING CLASS people is immoral? Giving RICH people MORE of what they already HAVE (money) is GOOD, but giving POOR people what they DO NOT HAVE (money) is BAD? What drug addled moron came up with that? Please explain to me why RICH people have to be given MORE so they will have “incentive” to work, but POOR people have to have their wages/money CUT in order to have incentive to work?
As Warren Buffet stated:”There is a CLASS WAR going on alright, and WE (the RICH) are WINNING”.
You have a strange set of exclusive terms. Could you explain how it is, to you, that a ‘Rich Man’ is not also a ‘Working Man’? How do you think that person became rich – other than by hard work?
Since you seem to assume that Rich People don’t work – then, are you aware that the Unionized Public Employees are Rich? And work far less than the workers in the private sector? And pay less taxes? What’s your view on that?
Do you support the fact that the unionized public service workers have higher salaries, higher annual wage increases and more benefits than the people in the private sector? These unionized people are RICH, and they are refusing to contribute to their own pensions! Why do you support this refusal – and why do you support that the private sector working man, who has far less money – should pay for these RICH unionized worker’s benefits?
Wisconsin Watcher is just mindlessly reciting Marxist babble. He thinks the government is “giving money” to “rich people,” by which he no doubts means not taking more of their money than they already do. It’s all the government’s money to “give” to whomever it chooses.
These people use the term “working people,” or “working families” to simply mean union members. It’s ancient Marxist lingo, of course, in pedigree—you had, in Marx’s world, people who did all the work, and then people who had inherited land and the means of production who just sat around living off the labor of the workers. This model hasn’t existed for a long, long time in reality, but the Marxist Left still employs the term “working families” (note the heartstring puller, “families”) to mean union members. Those are the only people who deserve sympathy. That’s all it means any more, and every Dem politician knows the code. In Wisconsin, the taxpayers who pay the teachers’ salaries are not “working people.” Only the unionized teachers are. Everyone else is The Man, or “rich people,” whom the government “gives” money by not taking it from them and giving it to “working families,” namely unions. It’s just that simple and just that simpleminded.
The Koch brothers?
They really get around, don’t they.
I wonder how many of these nuts are legally insane. Have they just been driven over the edge by their own frothing leaders, or are they actually mentally unbalanced.
It probably doesn’t matter. They need to be locked up.
Since Detroit is such a paragon of union success, here is a nice link to digest:
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/17/watch-wisconsin-part-iv-the-salary-info-big-labor-doesnt-want-you-to-see/
Michigan watcher,
I am awed by your lack of respect for private property and free markets. You advocate that wealth accumulated due to the effort, skill, and perserverence of others be distributed to those you deem deserving in the name of equality. As a practical matter, how can a society remain economically viable when the states workers have better benefits and salaries than those in the private sector? Our current national calamity proves that viability can not be maintained when economics are ignored.
When our nation’s government consumed 3% of GDP around 1900, we had the fastest growing, most innovative people in the world as citizens. We had very low unemployment, huge upward mobility, and were assimilating an enormous immigrant class into the citizenry of our country. Was our society perfect? Obviously not, but we were way ahead of other nations and people the world over were doing everything in their power to get to this country and experience self determination.
Now the Federal government consumes something near 25% of GDP. It makes rules that create favored classes like your union buddies and penalizes those of us who employ people and create wealth. Our economy has atrophied. The fastest growing economies in the world are now in asia. There is far less regulation and a much freer market there.
The reason for the change is because people like you, Richard Trumka, Obama, LBJ, Kennedy, Wilson, and Obama have rigged the system to your marxist, redistributionist liking. FDR’s policies prolonged the Great depression by at least 7 years. I am quite sure you would side with him on most economic “solutions”.
Those of us who remember prosperity and have studied the awesome power of free markets and liberty are now rising up. Public opinion is firmly against union tactics in Madison. Government is waking up to the fact that it is about to be trimmed and slashed. The undemocratic influence of public sector unions is going to be cut back. The people have spoken. Eventually, the Dem senators are going to come back to Madison and watch their policies get voted out. It is going to happen again and again over the next months across the country.
Keep believing in your socialist dogma, it’s why your side is in such deep trouble. The American people have started to wake up to just how destructive progressive policies of the last 100 years have proven to be.
Thanks Sam. I’ve been wondering “what lies around the bend” and you’ve helped in confirming what I’ve imagined.
The engine Obama drives has had its wheels off the tracks for some time, bouncing across the ties, throwing sparks and starting brushfires. Loaded with debt and free-loaders she’s nearly come to a complete stop.
Around the bend will be the Tea Party who’ll kick it back on the track and get it moving as it should, once again. But, it won’t be just those derisively called “teabaggers, racists, extremists, etc”. There’ll be those out of work, who’ve lost their homes, whose children can’t read, and others who’ve awakened to the failure of Big Government, the Nanny State, and every other inalienable rights usurping entity tapped into our treasury.
Ronald Reagan once said of people like you: “If they saw a fat man standing next to a skinny man, they would say the fat man was stealing the skinny man’s food.” Not a quote, but you get the idea. Not taking money away from somebody who earned it is not the same as not giving money to someone who never earned it.
So are the “Koch Brothers” the latest paranoid incarnation of losing progressives, replacing “Rove, you magnificant bastard” as the boogeyman under the bed, responsible for all their inept but greedy failures?
17. Michigan watcher
Snyder valiantly CUTS taxes for businesses, as he RAISES taxes for retirees, what a MAN. What is with this idea that cutting taxes (giving money to) for RICH people is moral, but giving unemployment (giving money to) to WORKING CLASS people is immoral?
Wow, you think people getting to keep a decent portion of their own money they earned is ‘giving’ it to them? LMAO! No wonder you Lefties are such bassackwards fools. Look to lefty lardo Michael Moore who is suing the Weinsteins over Fahrenheit 9/11 for more of that delicious, evil, capitalist green!
Chanting the mantra of Koch Brothers, Hitler, the Supreme Court and Union-Busting makes lots of noise, but every item in that laundry list is a red herring to divert the discussion away from addressing – at last! – the problems and corruption attached to unions formed by public employees. Enough red herrings, thank you, now back to the problems and corruption.
Organizing a coercive organization to negotiate against the public interest is a bad enough principle, as even FDR clearly stated.
But organizing it by the principle of one member, one vote, one time is no different than the cynical tactic used by historical tyrants who have gotten themselves ‘elected’ and then ended elections for good. Yet that’s the time-honored tactic used by the US labor movement, including that of Wisconsin. It is a feature, not a bug, that Governor Walker’s bill inserts some real democracy into its public unions and requires that a majority of their members vote annually to re-certify them. The union bosses hate it, since it could restrain them from political activity counter to the members’ desires.
It’s also a feature of the bill that the State would end its function as Union dues-collector, and let the bosses extract dues directly from the members.
And it’s time that mandatory union dues ends its function of buying legislators who represent, not the public, but the union, against the public interest.
The Koch brothers? You assume that’s a big negative on this site and this thread?
The Kochs don’t get to play, but Soros and Gore, the Google guys, the Facebook guy, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs do get to play, and even toast the President? That picture of the new money billionaires raising their glasses to Obama will go down in infamy, just like the one of Pelosi parading around with that giant cartoon gavel of hers. Those images, along with photos of David Geffen’s (an avid Obama campaign contributor) giganto-yacht, the “Rising Sun” are worth tens of thoussands of words each in dramatizing the shift by the mega-wealthy to the “progressive” orbit. An entire army of Marie Antoinettes, that lot.
You were stupid enough to bring up a couple of non-liberal billionaires when a majority of the hyper-rich including most of the media and the entertainment industry is in the liberal-socialist corner? Fool.
Where are the Dems who cried for “civility” after the Tucson shooting, which they inartfully tried to link to Sarah Palin? The signs depicting Scott Walker as Hitler or Mubarak have gone unnoticed as well as the threatening words and deeds of the disgruntled teachers, backed by the handy rent-a-mob courtesy of the President’s own storm troopers. Pelosi, so affronted by the polite demonstrations of the Tea Party, has endorsed the unruly mob and announced her solidarity with them. And incredibly, the President himself sided with the mob…..I hope American voters are watching this closely. We truly can’t afford this kind of leadership much longer.
The taxpayers are tapped out. There is no more money. Cities, counties, states, and the federal gov’ment are broke. We are at the end of the line. The Demons are trying to hand onto their most loyal contributors, the gov’ment unions. But, with Obamalini’s heel on the throat of our economy, there isn’t anymore goodies to get. When you drain the swamp, you see the obvious.
Analogy to a football game: Home team so far behind they hide in the lockerroom hoping the fans can win the game for them.
Yeah, and the stadium is about 3/4′s empty. Season ticket sales have been dropping for years. The team has been clamoring for a new stadium and are hoping the city will buy one for them.
Can you smell the coming bankruptcy?
Stand strong against mob rule.
A dime to a donut Valerie Jarret is running this mess. Obama’s looking in the mirror.
Yup!
I’ve read before that Valerie Jarrett is running everything behind the scenes, and I suspect it’s true. Obozo was put into office largely by union money, and Jarrett makes sure that his backers get what they paid for.
I wish it were so, but Obama has the control of the levers, overseas financing, an army of devout thugs and nihilists, new media moguls and the academics. He’s not about being the president of all Americans but control of America for his coterie.
Obama and his cronies have only made a mistake if the ‘Pubbies stand up to them, use ever legal (and maybe a few “extra-legal) methods to get their jobs done, and, in general, hold out. If the ‘Pubbies cave in, it wasn’t a mistake, it was a huge victory.
Worse, the Democrats know that, historically, ‘Pubbies are lacking in spine. They’re betting on the cave-in.
Harry – good point about the Republicans standing firm – and their historical tendency to cave at critical times. I agree that has been the case in the past, but the Democrats and their union allies have made one terrible miscalculation:
Walker doesn’t cave. His record of standing firm under terrible pressure and name calling and persistent lying is nothing short of amazing.
Obama may think Walker is stupid and egotistical, and that the pressure will get him to relent, like the RINOs of the past. In reality, Walker seems to be the kind of guy that rather enjoys the abuse and the whining it causes (NOTE: “seems” not “IS” – this is my opinion, without personal knowledge). He knows that the more they whine, the better chance he has to win.
And I can tell you he is personally polarizing – the Democrats hate and fear this guy – but the Republicans and Libertarians love this guy. The mood in Wisconsin from the average Joe is very much on his side, and few without a government check are opposed to him.
We all know by now, that Obama is a liar. He lies to your face and dares you to confront him. He loves confrontation. No surprise what position he holds on the Wisconsin situation.
At michellemalkin.com, there is a spreadsheet with the pay and benefits these leaches are getting from the Wisconsin taxpayer. It’s outrageous.
And this money is recycled back to the Democrat Party and Unions for more and more autocratic power.
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/17/watch-wisconsin-part-iv-the-salary-info-big-labor-doesnt-want-you-to-see/
I don’t know if I’d go along completely with Mr. Pollock’s analysis, but my only quibble would be that his para
might be overstating the top-down guidance from the Indonesian Imbecile’s cockpit in the Oval Office.
But I agree that Obama has made an act of hubris that even the average taxpayer can see is ridiculous. And in a city named after the Father of the Constitution, a man who feared that any act by the federal government that exceeded its boundaries would be detrimental to the future of the Republic. Jemmie is revolving in his grave.
Thank you, anti-American-Europhile-taxpayer-parasites, for placing yourselves so squarely in the white-hot public spotlight.
and now … The Tea-Party Hammer.
Hard to disagree with this analysis. The coordination of the protests was impeccably professional and I loved the pet doctors in the crowd handing out sick slips to public workers who should have been, well, working. However, make no mistake, there will be escalation. As it becomes more obvious that the tactics of last week are not working and as time starts to work against the “Fleeing Fourteen” a new and even uglier phase will be entered. In my experience public employee unions are ultimately driven by individuals who are (a) bitter about EVERYTHING and (b) complete bullies.
I believe that public sentiment will increasingly migrate to the side of the governor and legislature. As this happens the current union leadership will either be replaced by more radical elements or will become more radical themselves in order to save their own positions. Look for a state-side strike and an even greater influx of out-of-state union muscle into Wisconsin. Also, look for police and publi-safety personnel to find a way to leave their jobs while still clinging to the fiction that they are not on strike. In the immortal workds of Margo Channing, “Fasten your seatbelts – It’s going to be a bumpy night.”
Hard to disagree with this analysis. The coordination of the protests was impeccably professional and I loved the pet doctors in the crowd handing out sick slips to public workers who should have been, well, working.
It would be hard to disagree, but even harder if Mr. Pollack would furnish some supporting information for his killer paragraph:
The Wisconsin political blitzkrieg on Gov. Walker was not a spontaneous eruption. It is now clear that it was a highly organized operation planned in Washington, D.C., to unleash a national counterattack on the gains made by Republicans and Tea Party activists. Getting OFA and the president to act in close coordination was itself no small feat. The plan included busing in thousands of government employees, arranging for Democratic lawmakers to flee to an adjoining state, flying speakers and political organizers into Madison, organizing thousands to leave their jobs in public safety and in classrooms, and staging rallies inside and outside the statehouse. They even enticed sympathetic doctors to draft bogus doctor excuses for government workers.
It is nothing more than an unsupported assertion.
I’m more inclined to believe PJM than the MSM (and particularly the slanted NPR discussion this morning), but Pollack owes us some backup on that all-too-convenient paragraph.
I don’t think that Pollack is wrong at all. “Organizing a protest” has come a long way since the days of the rotary-dial telephone and the mimeographed newsletter. It’s fair to assume that prepared plans were in effect since Walker was elected on Novbember 2nd. The unions wanted to see if Walker would actually bring in his bill.
When he did, all that was necessary was to get the word out to poential participants; a simple thing to do in our era of cell phones, e-mail, tweets, Facebook etc. You aren’t really saying that everything in Madison just sort of spontaneously “happened” are you? You can communicate with tens of thousands of names on an e-mail list (or tens of thousands of union members) with the push of a button.
I agree with chambers. The leftists have boxed themselves in with their own organizing “success” — now they will double down.
They can’t help themselves. The whole progressive movement is based on a sliver of the public grabbing power and control over the majority, using any means necessary, with no limits; and then forcing their will on the majority.
They are like out of control adolescents who have been given way too much freedom with no responsibility, and rather than appreciating the latitude, they decide they have a right to take over and control the entire family.
Obama has already clearly demonstrated, many times, that he has no respect for our laws or traditions, which he views as a series of negative rights..i.e., restrictions on his power. Last night, one of his thugs issued a threat on the latest vdh blog to set the country “on fire” if we don’t comply with their demands.
These people are natural criminals. Their philosophy is that might makes right. They see the world as a zero sum game. For them to get their share of the pie, they have to take slices from other poeple. They developed an entire philosophy to support their criminality; relativism, which denies the existance of morality or truth. Zero sum combined with relativism allows them to do anything they want, without shame or guilt. You are no better than they are, and if they don’t take what you have, then you will take what they have. Indeed, they have an obligation to themselves to steal from you. They would be foolish not to do so. So bankrupting GM is irrelevant to them…too bad for the investors and bondholders who were stealing from the UAW anyway. Banktupting the states is no different. Taxpayers are greedy. They better give it up or else they will be punished, with violence if that is what it takes.
So, they have no problem forcing confiscatory “health care” on the nation despite overwhelming opposition. They have no problem whatsoever forcing people to pay for it. In Wisconsin, the fact that they are vastly overcompensated for their low-value public sector jobs doesn’t even enter their thinking. As they see it, if they don’t get your money, you will get theirs. They have no concept whatsover of any community other than their fellow travelers.
It’s going to get worse than what it is now. This doesn’t even qualify as a tiny first step.
“These people are natural criminals. Their philosophy is that might makes right.”
Right on the mark! Another word comes to mind….sociopath.
Democrat blunders? This is news? A little reflection shows blundering comes as naturally to these louts as breathing. Only the steady support of our mind numbed media gives them the appearance of a scant normalcy and bare competence. I daresay Obooba needs help getting his shoes on in the morning.
While watching the hateful, screeming, greedy teachers taking a phony sickday it became very clear as to to virtue of home schooling. Would you want that crowd in charge of your child ? Locals could solve the problem by refusing to send their children into the belly of the Obama Beast indoctrination school system. Big backlash. Go Gov !
If half of the student presently enrolled stayed home,they would not get rid of one teacher.They can’t because they cannot lose their job.That’s one of the causes for all this hoo haa. God Bless
“beginning to fret that a large-scale defeat in Wisconsin will have a devastating ripple effect, weakening labor state by state throughout the rest of the country.”
A consummation devoutly to be wished. Politically favored-Unionism has been an immoral force in America for 100 years. Time the virus was treated.
It’s PUBLIC EMPLOYEE UNIONS that are the problem. If Gov. Walker doesn’t win in WI, the taxpayers in all fifty states are going to be screwed bigtime.
Friday February 18, 2011 07:00 am
Republican Governor Deliberately Spent Wisconsin Surplus To Pick Fight With Unions
By Susie Madrak
It’s important that people understand this: This is a fight Gov. Walker picked for the specific purpose of breaking the unions. Wisconsin had a surplus, and as soon as he was sworn in, Walker gave it away to special interests in order to put the state into deficit. Is it a coincidence that every Republican governor is suddenly going after the unions and the pensions? Is it simply bubbling up from the ground for no special reason? Hell, no.
Wisconsin’s new Republican governor has framed his assault on public worker’s collective bargaining rights as a needed measure of fiscal austerity during tough times.
The reality is radically different. Unlike true austerity measures — service rollbacks, furloughs, and other temporary measures that cause pain but save money — rolling back worker’s bargaining rights by itself saves almost nothing on its own. But Walker’s doing it anyhow, to knock down a barrier and allow him to cut state employee benefits immediately.
Furthermore, this broadside comes less than a month after the state’s fiscal bureau — the Wisconsin equivalent of the Congressional Budget Office — concluded that Wisconsin isn’t even in need of austerity measures, and could conclude the fiscal year with a surplus. In fact, they say that the current budget shortfall is a direct result of tax cut policies Walker enacted in his first days in office.
“Walker was not forced into a budget repair bill by circumstances beyond he control,” says Jack Norman, research director at the Institute for Wisconsin Future — a public interest think tank. “He wanted a budget repair bill and forced it by pushing through tax cuts… so he could rush through these other changes.”
“The state of Wisconsin has not reached the point at which austerity measures are needed,” Norman adds.
Then good on the Gov for getting ahead of the curve.
Nice cut and paste.
Thanks for the evidence that lefty blog trolls have no ideas of their own, they just parrot the talking points handed to them by their political masters.
Since you didn’t see fit (or couldn’t figure out how) to give us the link back to where you found this, allow me to do it for you.
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/republican-governor-deliberately-spen
Great smack down! It is real easy to cut and paste (or should I say copy and paste)! Thanks for pointing out yet another troll!
Thanks… it was pretty obvious to me that it was a copy and paste job… but if I specify how I figured it out, then the next troll wouldn’t make the same mistake. Obviously they didn’t see any problem with posting it the way it is now, so apparently they don’t see the glaring clues that it’s a piece from somewhere else… I guess that gives new meaning to “clueless lefty trolls.”
Tantrum, much?
This whole little tirade is straight out of the mouth of MSNBC’s Racheal Maddow. More lefty garbage, lies and spin. Even without budget woes this needs to happen. The Democrats are self destructing before our very eyes and it is long over due. The public is sick of the picture of the thief who gets caught denying he ever stole anything. Not only denies it but is so full of righteous indignation over being busted.
To BARBBF, if the money problems are not that bad in Wisconsin. Why do you not just pay off the money short fall? You can send in extra TAX money. Problem solved, thank you BARBBF
“…Liberal MSNBC talk show host Rachel Maddow joined in Feb. 17, accusing Walker of manipulating the situation for political gain.
“Despite what you may have heard about Wisconsin’s finances, the state is on track to have a budget surplus this year,” she said. “I am not kidding.”
She added a kicker that is also making the rounds: Walker and fellow Republicans in the Legislature this year gave away $140 million in business tax breaks — so if there is a deficit projected of $137 million, they created it.
Maddow and others making the claim all cite the same source for their information — a Jan. 31, 2011 memo prepared by Robert Lang, the director of the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau.
It includes this line: “Our analysis indicates a general fund gross balance of $121.4 million and a net balance of $56.4 million.”
We were curious about claims of a surplus based on the fiscal bureau memo.
In writing it when it was released, reporters from the Journal Sentinel and Associated Press had put the shortfall at between $78 million and $340 million. That’s the projection for the end of the fiscal year, June 30, 2011.
Walker himself has settled on $137 million as the deficit figure, a number reporters have adopted as shorthand.
We re-read the fiscal bureau memo, talked to Lang, consulted reporter Jason Stein of the Journal Sentinel’s Madison Bureau, read various news accounts and examined the issue in detail.
Our conclusion: Maddow and the others are wrong.
There is, indeed, a projected deficit that required attention, and Walker and GOP lawmakers did not create it…”
http://politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2011/feb/18/rachel-maddow/rachel-maddow-says-wisconsin-track-have-budget-sur/
Now THAT was a copy / paste job.
Why in the world Democrats would think the public would side with a group of pampered public employees who already make comfortable salaries, who break the law while protesting, who act like the rioters in Egypt serving as a terrible role model for kids and usually can’t be fired from their jobs while others are suffering is amazing. How out of touch are these people?
They think this because the Media runs interference for them and demonizes the DEM’s opponents. How do you think we got a “community organizer” as President of the Republic?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/opinion/21krugman.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=homepage
“So will the attack on unions succeed? I don’t know. But anyone who cares about retaining government of the people by the people should hope that it doesn’t.”,/i>
Attacks on ‘unions’? These parasitic union thugs are breaking the backs of tax-payers.
Troll non-sighting.
Has anybody else noticed that matthew and dwight are strangely silent about the Wisconsin events. Why, those cheerful and oh-so-earnest libwits couldn’t contain themselves while the Tucson massacres played out. The smiling sock-puppets must have posted 100 breathless comments during the first couple of days alone.
I wonder why they aren’t as interested now?
I hadn’t noticed, but now that you mention it….Thanks.
Why even mention rain on a bright sunny day?
I am ever amazed at how the Obamasiah, the deliverer of us all, manages to fiddle in the White House while the world abroad, and at home burns. How can one man bring about, or elicit, so much destruction? I am beginning to wonder if it is all a manifestation of Obama’s Jungian shadow.
Is that the same thing as being a Marxist who foments crises to take further power?
To me this is the greatest advertising campaign I’ve ever seen for promoting home-schooling.
And a great advertising campaign for prohibiting government employee unions.
As a conservative teacher, I couldn’t agree more. I quit the Texas State Teachers Union 2 years ago when I realized that all of the politicians on “our side” were libs and I figured I have nothing in common with what they think should be done with public education. They’re WHY it’s gone down the tubes. I would like to have the luxury of time to form the CTT, Conservative Teachers of Texas. Pipe dream.
Anyone want to guess how many union protesters would have showed up if they weren’t getting paid??
I’d be snapping photos of some of the most insane/hateful protesters up there in Madison and start running ads showing people who exactly they are letting teach there children. Honestly let them keep it up, I think it will nudge Wisconsin a little bit more Republican.
Hmm, I think that since the Dems had had to get ACORN to make fake voters to compensate for the Roe Effect, they then forgot that those fake Madison-area Democratic voters didn’t actually exist when it came time to depend on them for support this week.
It’s time for a fire drill. The teachers and their union may be the ones learning the lesson. As for Obama, the teaching moment might end up being his failing grade. Political suicide for Obama? Poetic justice.
Don’t discount the power of the mainstream media. The GOP has to get the word out on the social media WI is all about Public Employee Union greed.
And the thing is, the union school racketeers do such a great job. Really. Top Notch. Couldn’t be better. Parents flee the private schools.
/sarc off.
“There is nothing more unseemly that to see a president serve as healer in Tucson and a political hack in Madison.”
So, which is the REAL Obama, healer or hack? My money’s on the latter.
It is not a miscalculation it is “policy blinded by leftist ideology.”
Obama and his leftist minions are so convinced their “New Socialism” of redistributive wealth, take from the few to give to the many” will pull the middle of America left that they are blind to the changing political reality.
Forget about the unions. Concentrate on the Democrat Senators who do not believe in Democracy. Are the Senators being advised by the DNC and White House?
Just a clarification: Paul Soglin served as mayor of Madison from 1973 until 1979, and then again from 1989 until 1997. The way the article is worded suggests that he served continuously.
When did Idaho become part of the Midwest? Was there a big earthquake or something that I missed that rearranged the states’ locations?
The Nitpick Police
The term Midwest has been expanded under this administration to include ALL of flyover country. If your state does not include ocean front property on the Atlantic or Pacific, you are Midwestern… Special exemptions were extended to certain small northeastern states grandfathered into the fraternity.
“… in other Midwest states, including Ohio, Indiana, and Idaho.”
That’s a rather expansive definition of “Midwest”!
I remember reading something 20 or 30 years ago to the effect that Pennsylvania was a Midwestern state. It was one of Joseph Wambaugh’s non-fiction books if I’m not mistaken. (He is a native of Pennsylvania.)
I mentioned it to a Pennsylvanian I knew at the time and he was as surprised as I was.
Still, what ARE the states that comprise the Midwest? Is there a wide concensus?
The Old Northwest states at least (IL, IN, OH, MI, WI). North of the Ohio River and east of the Mississippi.
Maybe extending west to the Great Plains and including Iowa and Minnesota? Cutting finer, I can see saying the Midwest includes the part of Pennsylvania west of the Appalachians.
“But what is emerging is that the White House may have developed two strategies for 2011, not one.”
You’re over-analyzing. You are assuming there is coherent planning going on at the White House. I believe this is probably an invalid assumption.
Oblahblah’s talking and he can’t shut up. What makes him think we care what he thinks about Wisconsin’s union power struggle, Arizona’s laws, or the Cambridge police’s IQ, etc? (Not to be mistaken, I admire the restraint the officer showed with the in-your-face tantrum of that spoiled prof of bull sh*t-ology). Fix the federal budget before telling someone else how to fix theirs. Think before you speak, Oh Arrogant One.
For me, we’re seeing evidence that “community organising” breaks down when it’s attempted across too broad a community. It works in confined areas in which a very vocal minority can establish itself as speaking for a larger minority group. But when translated across a whole state, or even attempted across a whole nation, the principle seems to break down.
Mr. Obama, in spite of his considerable debt to organised labour, would be well cautioned by this recent episode to remember that organised labour only speaks for 11.9% of American workers. And as people lose their jobs, houses and retirement every day, their ability to feel empathy for union members who’re still working, who still have rich benefits, who have rich retirement benefits, diminishes.
Regarding the PR ammunition from the demonstrations, I wonder if somebody could systematically take pictures of all the strikers/protestors and set them up in a database showing which classroom in which school is sitting idle while they tromp around Madison? Add other relevant facts like the number of kids whom they aren’t teaching; the number of days they’re not being taught; the running total of how many days will be stolen from the kids at end of the school year to “make up” for the days missed now; a running total of how much salary and benefit that teacher has accrued while out “sick”? Those dimensions of the social and economic imbalance and injustice are just a quick sketch; more could be added by others, especially by parents of the affected kids (how many days they’ve had to take off work, or find a sitter, or pay extra for daycare, etc). The whole thing becomes a kind of shared social document and data-mine which everyone can use, going forward, to shame these people and wound their political leaders. Shouldn’t be that hard to do; and should have big and lasting impact.
Ich bin ein Cheesehead!
Thanks, Roland!
We appreciate the support!
My first experience with Union goons was in my mid-twenties. My little brother and I saved our last pennies starting a small children’s clothing company. Our first trade show – and mine – was in Javits Center in New York.
After getting there we discovered our money would soon be gone paying the ‘Freeman Decoraters’ union fees to be allowed to set up our 10×10 booth. First, the forklift guy knocked the booth on its side, breaking the crate. We weren’t allowed to fix our crate; we would have to stand in line to schedule a ‘tradesman’ to do it. After sneaking in and setting up our booth anyway we then got nailed for not having a fireproofing certificate for a melamine shelf – probably a $20 item. They took it away and it came back with a ‘fireproof’ certificate and an invoice for a couple hundred bucks.
During setup day the goons just walked up and down the exhibit hall trying to catch exhibitors doing any work on their own booths. The goons would radio in, a guy would show up in a golf cart and tell the exhibitor to stop working so that a ‘tradesman’ could do it, and then the exhibitor had to wait until a goon was sent out to do the ‘work’, like plugging in a computer or something.
The day of the show I had plugged our booth lights into an outlet behind us, not knowing what I was in for. Our display looked great and buyers were coming in and placing test orders, so we might be able to afford to keep the new business afloat.
Then lo and behold a buyer from Toys-R-Us sat down to do an order. But while we were talking two goons came in – to a tiny 10×10 booth – and interrupted us to say they were taking down my lights. Yes, I didn’t know I wasn’t allowed to do that either. So they stopped our meeting, got out the drills in the middle of the show and confiscated my lights, and an invoice for a few hundred more bucks was dropped off.
The Toys-R-Us buyer said she would come back. But of course she didn’t; it was a big show. Our invoice from ‘Freeman Decorating’ was about $1,000, requiring a call home for emergency bucks.
One of the other exhibitors said that Freeman Decorators is the Lucchese Family…or maybe Bonanno, can’t remember; this was in 1988.
Who’s paying the living expenses of the fourteen Dem senators on the lam?
From busting the note-writing Docs to docking the teachers’ pay, to furloughing the DemStaffers to upping the ante for the unions themselves, there’s plenty of retribution to be extracted. Here’s hoping that Gov. Walker avails himself of every opportunity…
I’m amazed WH/Obama/Plouffe did not see this coming…Plouffe is supposed to be clairvoyant, disciplined, concise messager etc.
It was one thing to elect Obama in 2008. It’s an entirely different scenario in 2012. If this is the best they can do, all we need is someone that is ambulatory with good hair.
Romney may not be much of a candidate but I’ll wager he’d make a great president.
Don’t like Romney one bit. But at this point I’d settle for anyone who loves the USA and is not hellbent on its destruction.
Agreed on Romney, what about Mitch D, Christie or Trump? Maybe you see someone else?
I agree Jenny. I would in no way support Romney in the primaries. He is a RINO pure and simple. What’s more the left wants him to be our candidate so bad they can hardly stand it. There are 3 puff pieces about him on Politico everyday. They are trying to set the narrative for the election because they know Obama is toast. Romney is the least unappealing candidate to them because he is weak. They would rather have a weak milquetoast conservative than say a Gingrich or Palin . Notice how these 2 strong conservatives are eviscerated at every opportunity. Just follow who the left fears and hates and you will have our man/woman. That said if Romney won the primary I would support him. I would vote for a bag of feces in a Dolly Parton wig before I would ever vote for Obama
Obama was elected because of a massive effort by the mainstream media…and he ran against a man broken in a Communist prison camp who did everything he could to insure a defeat.
ajb & Bill,
Midwest, Inter-Mountain West … eh, what’s a thousand-odd miles among friends?
it’s interesting, conservatives (afaik) consider obama not much less than a disaster for the country but now liberals too must see him as a disaster to their political fortunes. while only the kool-aid drinkers ever believed obama was this supposed pragmatic bridge-building centrist, imagine if he’d actually been so. he could’ve picked off scores of reluctant/willing republicans enticed by moderate democrat legislation and essentially set the conservative movement back decades while he waited for better economic conditions to push a more left-of-center agenda.
instead his far-left policies and behavior out of the gate have not only instantaneously revitalized conservatism and created a powerful obama backlash among moderates, it seems as if through incompetence, tone-deafness, self-righteousness or whatever, he’s essentially destroying liberalism’s appeal at the same time. what do they have left to offer voters after this privileged class/huge gov’t bonanza of the past couple years that everyone but the 20% of liberals in this country utterly rejects?
this guy dreamed of his place in history before he’d actually ever done a single thing but if things keep going this way his mark on history will be something he never could’ve imagined.
Just as the scrofulous Boomer generation reaches retirement age, their lifelong freeloading is coming to a head. Here and overseas, the post-WWII era is coming universally unglued. By Rule of 72, events have some years yet to run– say to Election 2016 in the U.S. Looming hyperinflation, energy shortages, crashing demographics plus the overdue end of Earth’s “long summer” –our current 12,250-year Holocene Interglacial Epoch, fading to a 70-year Maunder Minimum presaging Pleistocene Ice Time– will test the global generation born c. 1990 in ways not seen since the fall of ancient Rome.
Corrupt and incompetent as they all are, Smudge and his minions act ever from ill-will, in bad faith under false pretenses, and everybody knows it. Just as ossified, outmoded Establishments were swept away in tides of blood from 1914 – ’18, after a century that grisly mill is grinding fine again. As in 1910, masses celebrating the “end of history” will find themselves mistaken and in deadly peril– from themselves. Where this will end by c. 2020 is anybody’s guess, but absent realism and resolve we face catastrophe.
Don’t forget that Madison is also home to Wiscon, the radical feminist science fiction convention that disinvited Elizabeth Moon for the “crime” of being critical of Islam and the Ground Zero Mosque.
I get the feeling that we are drifting towards an Atlas Shrugged moment in some way or another here. People are starting figure out we are paying all this money in WITHHELD taxes in order to pay an army of “public servants” to collect that money from our employers so they can then cut billions of dollars in checks to send to people under enttitlement programs, which, BTW needs an even bigger army of “public servants” to cut all those checks. TEA.
If we do wind up in an Atlas Shrugged moment here, here’s to hoping that Atlas carries the day, and that we all get some hot sex along the way.
The danger is that Obama is surrounded by worshipful brown nosers who are saying nothing to warn him of his blunders. All he hears is how brilliant he is. What we have in the Whitehouse is left-wing groupthink. It’s funny when Obama steps in it in Wisconsin, but the guy is totally unequipped to deal with a Putin or Hu. Bottomline: He’s really not that smart.
According to the info I could dig up, the union of teachers rakes in more than $225 million dollars a year in union dues.
And their upper level administrators are getting almost $500,000 in salary a year.
Good thing for them, we have capitalism.
Hopefully this will end with Obama heading on a jet for Venezuela, like his ally Qaddafi.
It should be obvious by now to the American people that obama is so out of touch with reality of what the American family goes through in this country. To make a living and start a business, he is acting like a king instead of the president of a Republic! Remember obama`s the guy who threw his own Grandmother under the bus, when convenient for him, he has an aunt living here in America illegally and on welfare and his family in Kenya live in poverty. This is the leader of the free world. Obama could not pour pis- out of a boat with the directions written on the heal!!! Obama is Soros shoe shine boy.
So the leftists have called some bad plays the last few weeks. They will make at least some GOOD plays in the weeks ahead.
Don’t get cocky. Don’t underestimate your opponent. Don’t let your guard down.
There are many battles ahead.
Excellent points. And the Progressives have the government-media on their side. The outcome of this is in no way certain to turn in the favor of the GOP. Especially since the GOP National is a bunch of boneheads.
http://rebelpundit.com/2011/02/18/disgusting-barak-obamas-ofaseiu-calls-to-bloody-the-tea-party-in-madison/
They just make you sick daily now… PATHETIC
This piece is very prescient..have you seen BHO’s approval numbers per Rasmussen? TIIMMBBEERRR!! This must be shocking to Obama and his posse as they don’t know ANYONE who is anti-union. Truth is to a commie as garlic is to a vampire. We shouldn’t complain – libs always hoist themselves on their own petards.
This is a blunder of historic proportions on so many levels. First, the Democrats and unions ignored or misread the lessons of the November elections. Second, they picked a strategy that they probably though was a winner, but in truth could not have been better designed to infuriate the voters and turn away support for their cause. Maybe they thought that they were in Cairo, not Madison.
I’m a public employee and a union member, but unlike the people in Madison, I realize that in tough times we all have to pull together. We can’t claim some sort of exemption because of our employers status.
In the end, this could well go down as the biggest union miscalculation as the the PATCO strike in 1981. Only the beneficiary will be the Governor of Wisconsin, not the POTUS.
This is a spectacular fail on the part of the unions. Of all things, a teacher’s strike?
I can see a good liberal single parent proudly taking a day off to stay home with her child, figuring that it’s for a noble and good cause. On day two, she’s starting to worry. Then the state Senators start talking about running and hiding for WEEKS, and little tendrils of panic start working their way into the parent’s mind. “I can’t stay home for weeks! I’ll lose my job! Even if my employer gives me time off, I’ll lose so much pay that I won’t be able to pay my bills!”
To put it bluntly, the unions are holding the parents hostage, and the parents are the voters. The longer this goes on, the more destructive it will become to the unions and the Democratic party. Walker should absolutely stand his ground.
As said above, “It’s not their money.” But the outright greed of the public employee unions knows no bounds.
http://tinypundit.blogspot.com/2011/02/greed-of-public-employees-knows-no.html
For me this was one of the most thoughtful and helpful analyses I have read. I did not know that current GOP Chairman Priebus was the architect of the 2010 Wisconsin campaign. I am a conservative, Rep., TP member and to me that was encouraging.
“Loosing”? “Marshall” law? Nice.
“Loosing” (sic) I took to mean “losing”, and I’m quite certain that the author meant to write “martial” instead of “marshall” (sic). Hope that clears up any misunderstanding that the author’s mistakes created in your understanding of his arguments.
“Loosing” (sic) I took to mean “losing”, and I’m quite certain that the author meant to write “martial” instead of “marshall” (sic). Hope that clears up any misunderstanding that the author’s mistakes created in your understanding of his arguments.
“What is with this idea that cutting taxes (giving money to) for RICH people is moral, but giving unemployment (giving money to) to WORKING CLASS people is immoral? Giving RICH people MORE of what they already HAVE (money) is GOOD, but giving POOR people what they DO NOT HAVE (money) is BAD? What drug addled moron came up with that? ”
What is it with this idea that letting people keep more of their own money is “giving” them money?
What is it with this idea that giving unemployment for a limited time to non-working “working class” people has any relation to letting other people keep their own money?
What liberalism-addled moron came up with that?
This may be one of the greatest political moves the young Turk Governors may be enacting. While all eyes are on Wisconsin and the media lamely watches Ohio, the Ohio Senate is set to vote tomorrow on SB 5 making more broad and sweeping changes than what is happening in Wisconsin. This could be interesting!
BHO vs Sarah Palin
One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let’s be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.
The other kills her own food.
The rest speaks for itself.
How do you Republicans find time to post here with all the sucking up to Big Business you do?
Try looking at the calendar. It’s something called a federal holiday. A lot of our big business slavedrivers let us off the plantation today.
(for the humor deprived: there is sarcasm in this post.)
Many great posts in this thread.
Lucid writing and excellent insights.
I wish the dialouge of the people writing here was given greater exposure.
Many of you people give me hope that we are not circling the drain.
The dems, unions and leftist are certianally pissing in to the wind.
What Wisconsin’s embattled governor needs right now is for other states, notably Ohio and Tennessee to immediately enact similar legislation. Governor Walker is at the Little Big Horn and the sreaming banshees are circling and calling for his scalp. Ohio and other states can help by syphoning off and diluting the astroturfing Obama thugs.
Yes I live in Ohio and am waiting for Kasich to step up to the plate. It is coming. There was a demonstration at the statehouse last week with union and Tea Party both represented. The issue has seemed to have stalled for now. I don’t doubt that it will re-surface. The sooner the better. This whole thing has the democratic party unraveling
You sound like a candy ass living in mamas basement.
Guess who paid for all the taxed Medicaid Medicare Social Security frigging wars for the last 40 years?
We did. When we go under you go under.
Now you elect a friggin cabbage head that is driving the economy ass backwards and destroyed 30 trillion dollars of your inheritance.
Hope you Enjoy sucking your inherited sand piss through a straw.
How else could we have gotten Obama?
I believe we got him because the Republicans put up the worst possible candidate they could. As always. Can you say Bob Dole?
Re rachel peepers comment #2
Certainly agree with your sentiments, but wasn’t 2004 actually a whisker-thin victory by Bush over Kerry, decided by something like (you know exactly, I’m sure!) only 20,000 votes in Ohio? It wasn’t a blowout by any means, and couldn’t it very easily have gone the other way? (That ‘reporting for duty’ speech was the last time I could stand to watch a Democratic convention speech. Watched the debates and I thought Bush kicked John’s can, SNL notwithstanding. Haven’t stomached an Obama peroration all the way through yet. To paraphrase Mitch D., it’s amazing how much you can cut ‘govt’ (for me, TV) without missing it!) My only point being that a Bush win over Kerry wasn’t baked in the cake at all.
Re: Jacobite (comment #2 thread) concerning ‘loosing’
That misspelling’s very interesting. You’re not (how does one say this politely) “not born in the United States” by any chance? The first time I saw it spelled like that was from one of my com sci professors who was from India. And I know how hard it can be to change ingrown habits like that for second, third, or more languages. That’s allright!
Then again, maybe you just have ‘keystroke flutter’ and it slipped through; Submit is faster than Preview & Edit! BTW, ‘publically’ should be ‘publicly’
Aardunza,
Like nails on a chalkboard, I can’t stand to listen to Obamablabber. But I do like a well thought out comment like yours.
The night of Kerry’s nomination speech I didn’t think Kerry could win going in the strategic direction he was headed. You’re probably right that nothing was baked in, but I felt he’d fallen into a trap of his own making that tightened the more Kerry tried to get out.
However, the election turned out to be closer than I thought it would be. With all Kerry’s bungling mistakes, I just never thought he had a chance. But obviously, as you point out, he did.
People, this is no blunder, no miscalculation. At its core, the left consists of total lawlessness and immorality. This is the Good Cop / Bad Cop strategy. Stanley Kurtz has written about it… according to him, Obama has done this consistently over his entire career:
“The idea is that a seemingly moderate “good cop” politician works on the inside of government, while coordinating his moves with nasty Alinskyite “bad cops” on the outside. Reports that Obama’s own organizers helped put together the Madison protests fit the model. That coordination is necessary to achieve Obama’s real goal: kicking off a national grassroots movement of the left that he can quietly manage, while keeping his distance when necessary.
“Obama’s good-cop role allows him the flexibility occasionally to criticize protest tactics that cross the line. Yet the reality is that our presidential good cop and his bad cop buddies are in this together. Intimidating protests at the homes of enemy politicians are par for the course with Alinskyites (and, yes, Alinskyites think of their targets as “enemies”). Obama understands all this, and you can be sure that he’s on board with the protests held at the homes of Wisconsin Republican legislators, whether he disowns them or not.
“As I show in Radical-in-Chief, Obama began his organizing career planning and participating in just this sort of intimidating protest (a fact largely hidden in Dreams from My Father). As Obama moved into politics, he switched to the good cop role and funneled foundation money to his Alinskyite pals, while using their hardball protests to support his legislative agenda. Meanwhile Obama perfected his calm, post-partisan persona. It’s all a game developed by the president’s Alinskyite (and socialist) organizing mentors.”
Great analysis .Obama is getting easier to figure out all the time. Especially if you read any Alinsky. The great deep and mysterious enigma that Obama is supposed to be is a sham. He is a low rent garden variety thug. No better than a mid level mafiosi. The way he operates and double speaks is becoming so transparent that one can pretty easily predict what his next move is always going to be.
Generally agree, but note that Doug La Follette is not related to the early La Follette clan.
The thought of frightened Madison taxpayers watching Obama’s bussed in DNC goons trash their town and defy their election makes my heart soar like an eagle.
Obama must come this way again in 2014.
One wonders if these frightened taxpayers really know how powerful they really are?
Oh, they know. That’s why, when the thugs start knocking heads, the Tea Party demonstrators will let them do it, with the cameras running. This is about who is going to run the show–not just in Madison but nationwide. Obama called out the thugs. If they start beating on taxpayers and the taxpayers stay peaceful and smile for the cameras, Obama and his union thugs are FINISHED and not just in 2012.
If things get violent, this could define a generation just like the civil rights movement did, and we could see significant anti-public-sector union legislation in Washington DC in 2013 just like the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights act in 1964.
When majorities arrive at the self-evident conclusion that public-sector unions exist to steal our money and feather their beds with it, wrecking the economy in the process, the purpleshirts are finished. Obama is their man; he has made no secret of that. He’ll go down with his ship.
I hope this anarchy in Madison goes nationwide. It will spur defections to the TEA Party. It will spike donations to conservative PACs and think tanks. It will suck the life out of the Democrap donor base as they come to the realization that, this year, they’re wasting their money.
The continuing media coverage of this tantrum is like God’s own piñata–bash it from any direction and nothing but candy comes out, and smacking it feels soooooooo right. It’s the best thing that’s happened since Dan Rather’s self-immolation 5 years ago.
Here’s the deal: if the SEIU purpleshirts show up to beat tea partiers, we know how to react; we’ve seen this movie play out before in Selma, Alabama. There, racist Democraps turned dogs and fire hoses on the peaceful demonstrators, whose organizing principle was NON-VIOLENCE. I know we stand for the 2nd Amendment, etc.
But now is the time to let the thugs beat you bloody WITHOUT RESISTING, and get it all on video. Perhaps, as the beatings ensue, the Tea Partiers on the receiving end can break into a rousing chorus of ‘We Shall Overcome’ for good measure.
This Madison circus is playing out like a no-holds-barred, all-expenses-paid PR campaign on behalf of Republicans in general, and conservative, Tea-Party-oriented Republicans in particular. All we need is multiple camera angles of angry union violence against our explicitly peaceful marchers, in full HD.
So Tea Partiers contemplating heading to Madison:
Learn the words to ‘We Shall Overcome’ and throw it in their face by dropping your fists and letting them try to beat you down. Just make sure you have GREAT camera work while it’s happening.
The unions are right – this is “comparable” to the Egyptian revolt.
The only problem is that they don’t understand that THEY are “Mubarak”, fighting against the public.
-MJ
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