Why Did Holder’s Justice Department Dismiss the Black Panther Case?
As reported this weekend, the decision by the Obama Department of Justice to dismiss a default judgment against the New Black Panther Party and all but one individual defendant in an egregious case of voter intimidation is now the subject of two inquiries, one by the Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility and one by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission.
These investigations may provide answers to a number of key questions:
Who in the Justice Department made the decision?
Did the Justice Department misrepresent to members of Congress that the decision was made by career attorneys?
Did improper political considerations weigh in the decision?
Does this reflect a new policy toward enforcement of civil rights laws?
As to the reasons for the dismissal, some speculate that there was an effort to conceal more widespread voter intimidation or fraud which inured to the benefit of the Obama campaign. But there is perhaps something more basic and more far-reaching than that at work.
The liberal civil rights establishment and the left-leaning staff of career attorneys (a number of whom previously worked for or hope to work for the array of leftist civil rights groups) chaffed under the Bush administration. They vociferously opposed voter I.D. laws and resisted efforts to enforce portions of the Voting Rights Act which require states to clean up outdated voter rolls to eliminate the potential for fraud.
They grumbled when the administration pursued a civil rights case in Mississippi, U.S. v. Ike Brown. A former Justice Department lawyer explains: “Brown was the black head of the local Democratic Party who controlled the county, including the local election board, in a county that is majority black. He had his own local version of Tammany Hall. He was found guilty by a federal district court of engaging in blatant discrimination against white voters; case was upheld by the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals.” A line attorney pursued the case despite opposition by the then-section chief, Joe Rich. The former Justice Department attorney explains, “Other career lawyers refused to work on the case because they would not work on a case claiming discrimination by local black officials.”






I was one of the very first men who warned that Barack Obama would not get Americans “past race.” It was patently obvious that he is existentially committed to sticking it good and hard to whites. Obama minimally has unresolved issues concerned them. There is also little doubt but that he and the overall leftist establishment adhere to the vile doctrine that blacks cannot be racists. Only the so-called empowered white people can be guilty of bigotry. This is has been the attitude of left-wing academics since the late 1960s—especially in the law schools.
Whites are targets of the Obama administration. It became abundantly clear during the Professor “Skip” Gates incident. Center right patriots must responsibly address this awkward and dangerous challenge. We cannot allow the vile David Dukes to take advantage of a golden opportunity to exploit the legitimate fears of our white citizens.
“African Americans must be liberated from multiple forms of bondage — social, political, economic and religious.”
“The rational study of the being of God in the world in light of the existential situation of an oppressed community..”
“Liberation involves empowerment and seeks the right of self-definition, self-affirmation and self-determination.”
Black Liberation Theology.
These are a few essentials of the life-long beliefs of the man we elected as our President. They are common threads that run through Islamic faith variations as well as the radical church that Obama and his wife belonged to for 20 or thereabouts years.
In short, what is being said is that blacks do not have to accept, abide by or respect anything in our society that they themselves decide not to.
They are saying that because of the evilness of white people and Jews that they, blacks have rights that can deny others whatever, whenever and where ever they choose, whether it is as simple as illegally parking in handicapped parking spaces, to excusing the Black Panthers to forcing their own form of government control onto our nation; it does not matter.
This way of life, in part is what America decided that it wanted for itself in November 2008. Eric Holder is simply doing what the people instructed him to do.
Bottom Line: If you don’t like hot peppers in your chili, then don’t ask for the damn things.
As chilling as Rubin’s account is, there is hope in her final paragraph. If the Justice Department’s outrageous decision to drop charges against the New Black Panther Party members shines a light on bad DOJ policies and procedures, then some good will come out of all this.
“Sunshine,” as they say, “is the best disinfectant.”
Jennifer, thanks for staying on top of this. You are right: this is an ominous sign of things to come.
WHO WAS INVOLVED are you serious ?? …they all were. since the DoJ needs to be pushed they were either the ones or are now accessories after the fact.
stop giving the benefit of the doubt …as there really is no doubt that this is how they operate.
love the smell of coffee …will I get coffee in the new gulag ?? will there be a gulag ??
13 Mike M
“Sunshine,” as they say, “is the best disinfectant.”
lol …you really think there is sunshine in that box. I would like to think so but I think we will find that it is something else that is shiney in that box.
White males will eventually wake up to what has been going on in many parts of this country for years. Reverse discrimination has been rampant and in-your-face, (especially in government offices which has essentially been nothing more than an extension of welfare) for most of my adult life.
Small businesses account for a huge percentage of the national employment, as new governmment regulations strangle profitability, smaller companies will no longer be able to afford to hire the uneducated or the unqualified. The time and payroll it takes to train up a new employee without good skills will just be too expensive, business owners will simply start to skip over the trainees and go ahead and hire the already qualified. This will ultimately hurt the large percentage of minority applicants who got their “Affirmative Action” degree.
Business owners know what is going on in the schools, we are not fooled.
There is no such thing as reverse discrimination. Discrimination is discrimination.
I am a former Department attorney in the SPL section in Civil Rights. Your article reveals what everyone there knows. Whites are the target of the Department because whites are the historical oppressors. They are the imperialists and slavemasters. This isn’t even considered whacked out inside the CRT. inside CRT, there are conspiracy theories about white power, contempt for the founding fathers and open hostility for any heresy by the partisan lawyers. Worst of all, they are lazy and like to gripe about any perceive harsh condition the Man imposes on them. I can only imagine how they are now rejoicing to have blacks in the chain of command from top to bottom. The Division is now headed by a half-wit who would not be employed except for affirmative action – and she proudly attributes race based preferences for her getting her job.
“But we are certainly going to have that national conversation about race which Holder has been pining for.”
Some months back, Thomas Sowell ended an article with the warning to “…be wary of anyone who tells you we need to have a conversation about race” (paraphrased)
He offers other insights into how the device of race is used (and abused) in America today.
For “community organizers” as well, racial resentments are a stock in trade. President Obama’s background as a community organizer has received far too little attention, though it should have been a high-alert warning that this was no post-racial figure.
What does a community organizer do? What he does not do is organize a community. What he organizes are the resentments and paranoia within a community, directing those feelings against other communities, from whom either benefits or revenge are to be gotten, using whatever rhetoric or tactics will accomplish that purpose.
To think that someone who has spent years promoting grievance and polarization was going to bring us all together as president is a triumph of wishful thinking over reality.
Barack Obama’s past and his present tell the same story. His appointment of an attorney general who called America “a nation of cowards” for not dialoguing about race was a foretaste of what to expect from Eric Holder.
The way Attorney General Holder has refused to prosecute young black thugs who gathered at a voting site with menacing clubs, in blatant violation of federal laws against intimidating voters, speaks louder than any words from him or his president.
A Post-Racial President?
With todays main stream media and the current trend in government, there will be no sunshine. The truth is being stifled everyday. The race card is played constantly, it make no different what the event is. This is not good for the country. In the end the blacks will suffer for it.
Why? I don’t recall. I have no recollection. I can’t remember. No, not to the best of my knowledge. I can’t say with certainty.
8. Mr. T
…chain of command from top to bottom. The Division is now headed by a half-wit who would not be employed except for affirmative action – and she proudly attributes race based preferences for her getting her job.
that term half-wit could apply to Holder and half-white as well.
BUT …your referrence to whites being the oppressors. I don’t know where you get that. Slavery is still being commercialised in many countries and it isn’t done by whitey. NOR were those who sold blacks into slavery (the ones sent to america) white. YES some whites were involved in oppression but never the majority and they have actually seen the practice as wrong and disgusting and have long since abandonded the practice. (apparently unbeknown to many seemingly educated people)
I’m sure the charges were not “just dismissed.” I’m sure lots of cash changed hands. And, I’d bet, Charlie Rangel was somewhere in the transaction.
Is Obama and his government attempting to goad whites into a race war? If so, he is succeeding. Holder calls whites cowards and refuses to investigate voter intimidation by Black Panthers. ACORN oozes federal dollars into sleazy, crime-riddled neighborhoods while promoting prostitution, illegal immigration, tax evasion and exploitation of juveniles…while our “justice” department says and does nothing? Have we turned our nation over to a lawless band of urban gang punks?
Have we turned our nation over to a lawless band of urban gang punks?
Just the other day I came across this word on PJM…
Kakistocracy: Government under the control of the nation’s worst or least qualified citizens
I agree with #10 that blacks will eventually bear the brunt, as the pendulum swings back the other direction. It seems to me that the left is doing it’s best to ignite a race war. When a society discriminates against a minority population, all sorts of ills are accomplished. When that society is turned on it’s head and discriminates against the majority, very bad things happen. The civil rights establishment has tricked the American people into allowing tribalism to arise in this country. Look at the European past or Africa at any time, if you want to judge the wisdom of encouraging tribalism. What we need is the return of the melting pot paradigm. All most of us want is a government that treats ALL of us with the same contempt.
15. tanstaafl:
Have we turned our nation over to a lawless band of urban gang punks?
Just the other day I came across this word on PJM…
Kakistocracy: Government under the control of the nation’s worst or least qualified citizens
VERY SAD AND VERY TRUE. when I look at the USA one thing stands out …these people could not have put someone on the moon.
Unfortunately the career government workforce necessarily skews Left and always will. I’ve seen this firsthand, even in a red state. After all, who goes to work for the government? Setting aside those who are there simply because they can’t hack it in the private sector, people go to work for government to “make a difference” or somesuch. In only a very few areas does this “difference” amount to anything a conservative would consider valid: cops, prosecutors, the armed forces. For the rest who join the bureaucracy, they *believe* in bureaucracy, they believe in government “making a difference:” i.e., liberals.
Moreover, the permanent bureaucracy’s culture is effectively immune to political changes. No matter who occupies the White House, nearly all hiring decisions are made well down the organization chart from the political appointees, and the careerists naturally hire the like-minded. And so we have it that under GWB and even Reagan, the DOJ was chock-full of activist lawyers who would feel equally at home at the ACLU.
18. Bohemond:
you are correct !
Who in the Justice Department made the decision?
Already widely known
It was made by Acting Assitant Attorney General Loretta King a career civil servant.
If you Google her, you will find virtually nothing regarding her Bio.
This administration has done more to hurt race relations than any one could have imagined.
Black panther, green panther..what they did was wrong and they need to be investigated…
Holder’s black…if the black panthers were the “white panthers”, he would have built a jail special just for them, put them in it, then investigated to hell and back for years to come.
This seems to be a simple case of “score settling” for the Black President and His Black Buddies. No matter what decisions Holder makes, the responsibility for the decisions still have to be taken on by Obama.
It’s a “very racial” thing going on. Affirmative action proves you cannot compete on a level field of intelligence.
Hey Eric…
How About a National Conversation on Race Hoaxes?*
We could start with the travesty of Duke/La Crosse, move through this President’s rush to judgment in the Gates-Crowley incident, line out the current justice department’s dismissal of the charges against the Black Panther guys…
We could analyze the lies pumped into congregants by Jeremiah (anti whitey) Wright, James Cones, Louis Farrakhan and other adherents of Black Liberation Theology…We could dissect some of Farrakhan’s pretense that he and his gang in the Muslim Brotherhood do not, in fact, hate Jews.
There is a lot of race hoax stuff, faux outrage & extortion, we could glean from the spewings of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and crowd.
We could have a more general, theoretical discussion on all the crapola stirred up by the Race Baiters in the (very lucrative for some) Race Industry in an America that seems to grow increasingly dumber with each passing day.
*line borrowed from Ann Coulter
It would be interesting to find out what percentage of the federal work force is minority. It would also be interesting to see how much it grows in the next 3 1/2 years. I haven’t been into a federal office without facing an all female, mostly black staff. Where are the men? Next time you are near a federal building take a peek inside, you will be amazed. Now take that condition and all of the prejudices that you would expect this group to harbor and then throw in a minority President who is showing that he has a few anti white feelings of his own and guess where it is going to take us? The DoJ under Holder is just the beginning.
12. George Soros:
BUT …your referrence to whites being the oppressors. I don’t know where you get that. Slavery is still being commercialised in many countries and it isn’t done by whitey. NOR were those who sold blacks into slavery (the ones sent to america) white.
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Yeah, my nephew holds the same leftist (idiotic – but very pervasive) views poitnts. When I pointed out to him the current reality of slavery (as well as the realities of its very long history) – he IGNORED it. It doesn’t fit the leftist paradigm that *all* slavery is white owned oppressing blacks.
the point being made is currently we have GOVERNMENT depts that HOLD that same viewpoint. Thus by definition, white’s “cannot” be discriminated against and blacks “cannot” be racists – consider reality irrelevant to their mantra.
we currently have the most racist administration in history. They’re also the ones who LOVE to call anyone opposed to their opinion a racist – as they can offer no logical argument to those who disagree with them based upon position only.
22. tanstaafl:
Hey Eric…
How About a National Conversation on Race Hoaxes?*
We could start with the travesty of Duke/La Crosse, move through this President’s rush to judgment in the Gates-Crowley incident, line out the current justice department’s dismissal of the charges against the Black Panther guys…
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Absolutely do NOT forget Tawana Brawley. (sharpton still carries her standard.)
24. ked5:
where do you get leftist out of what I wrote ….it is neither left or right.
and because it doesn’t fit your worldview doesn’t make it false. facts are not subjective.
I like how you all defend free speech until it comes to the BPP. How charming.
Peace.
DS
See the guy in the photo at the top of the page on the left.
It’s the same guy from Philly with billy club on Nov.3rd 2008.
Here’s a couple of his musings lately I was able to screen cap over the months.
Here ➥ http://www.screencast.com/users/GooDDaDDy/folders/Jing/media/95c5cb46-e2c0-4247-8593-90473bf1a67b
And here ➥ http://www.screencast.com/users/GooDDaDDy/folders/Jing/media/95c5cb46-e2c0-4247-8593-90473bf1a67b
Any more questions?
Not Over.
I like how you all defend free speech until it comes to the BPP. How charming.
That’s the (New) BPP to you, peace guy. They’re newly energized in the spirit of “you can kiss my black a$$”
And standing outside a voting place in Philadelphia holding a billy club has nothing to do with free speech.
It has to do with baldfaced voter intimidation and a violation of federal statute.
Sheesh, I repeat, an America that grows dumber with each passing day…
If a US attorney general can be forgiven for ranting about “a nation of cowards”, where is the limit?
If you go to drudge you will see video of future black panthers beating the crap out of a white boy. Do not expect to see this on the 6:00 news. Wrong color.
Steve
was it vivo ??
@30. Professor Guvinoff:
If a US attorney general can be forgiven for ranting about “a nation of cowards”, where is the limit?
Defending torture.
Peace.
DS
“Did improper political considerations weigh in the decision?”
Is today Tuesday?
@33:
The only torture I’m seeing is you torturing us with your abject stupidity, Peace Troll.
And they haven’t even got their socks on yet. Stormfront endorsed Obama for a reason. So far, it’s working out beyond their wildest dreams.
When you turn the light on in a dark room, the cockroaches scramble for cover.
So it is in the “DOJ.”
As a white individual who strongly believes in rights, fairness and the rule of law regardless of color this type of DOJ philosophy is just the tip of the iceberg why many are distrustful and outright angry of this “new” administration. Either this country is one, and lead by leaders who stands firm for equality and justice for all or we as a country will fall to the secular strife we witness acoss the sea.
The stark contrast of black people cheering, dancing and shouting vs the white people looking shocked, disgusted and horrified when O.J. Simpson got off for murdering two white people should have been a dire warning. 0bama and what he stands for and who he is didn’t happen by accident.
Why Did Holder’s Justice Department Dismiss the Black Panther Case?
Aside from the article’s explanation, it’s also because Holder, bless his heart, is just one of the many “Progressive” lapdogs currently being fed by Obama’s so-called administration. Eric Holder will do as he’s told regardless of what the law says.
Here’s another example of how things are in the DoJ: Here in New Mexico, Governor Bill Richardson was being investigated for accepting political contributions in return for granting handsome state contracts to CDR Financial Services. Two week, the US Attorney’s Office decided not to indict him or others in his administration for “pay to play” schemes, even though a letter from U.S. Attorney Greg Fouratt to Richardson’s defense team pretty much confirms his corrupt practices. In the letter, Fouratt confirmed that the investigation revealed that CDR did in fact make large contributions to Governor Richardson’s political organizations while the company was trying to secure the lucrative state contracts and that “pressure from the governor’s office resulted in the corruption of the procurement process.”
An AP source stated that “It’s over. There’s nothing. It was killed in Washington.” In other words, the Justice Dept. under Eric Holder will not hold a minority (Richardson’s father was white, but condsiders himself all latino, as his mother was hispanic) responsible for wrongdoing, especially if said minority is a Dem. & was once being considered for Sec. of Commerce by Obama.
Coincidentally, Eric Holder, who as Obama’s Attorney General is the man at the top of the Department of Justice’s food chain, was welcomed last Thursday in Albuquerque by the Hispanic Bar Association.
You know what I find insulting? I have to show ID to purchase cough syrup when I’m sick and canned air when I want to clean my computer but people don’t have to show ID when voting for the people that will govern our counties, states, and nation?
WTF man…
Norman Thomas was 1000% right about Americans and Alinsky would be soooo very proud of his sons.
Conservatives/independents need to start using the word RACISTS!!! every chance we get!! for any and everything that comes along. A guy cuts you off in traffic..he’s obviously a racists!!, jealous of the brainy guy you are!
Such a tragedy we have temporarily lost our way, lets hope the light at the end of the tunnel isn’t a train.
We are the only ones that can help “us”.. We have done this to ourselves. We allow the press to say the things they do, we allow politicians to go back time after time to represent us no matter his voting record,
we allow people like Loretta King to make decisions she has no business making! The responsibility lies at Obama’s feet.
The case was dismissed,because it would have been both inconvenient, and embarrassing, to train these thugs for Obama’s future secret police,while under indictment for assault.Besides,Eric Holder likes to free terrorists, whether foreign(FALN),or domestic(BLACK PANTHERS).
#12 BUT …your referrence to whites being the oppressors. I don’t know where you get that. Slavery is still being commercialised in many countries and it isn’t done by whitey. NOR were those who sold blacks into slavery (the ones sent to america) white. YES some whites were involved in oppression but never the majority and they have actually seen the practice as wrong and disgusting and have long since abandonded the practice. (apparently unbeknown to many seemingly educated people)
Funny how the left omits the following:
1) Blacks sold other blacks into slavery along with the Arabs.
2) Blacks in America owned other blacks as slaves.
3) Slavery is still practiced in modern times by many non-whites.
4) Whites were and still are (see above) sold as slaves, it was just not institutionalized as black slavery was.
5) Several hundred thousand whites bled and died in the war that lead to the abolition of slavery in America, even though slavery was not the principle reason for the war.
#27 DAVID S.I like how you defend terrorists DAVID,have fun while you can,Obama is imploding!BTW:see above .
So you’re saying, AlanABQ, that the justice department under AG Holder is happy to intervene and smooth out some thorny issues for a state governor ?
Bill Richardson’s CDR troubles were sufficient to have him withdraw from being named Obama’s Sec’y of Commerce…which appointment was a reward for Richardson switching his endorsement over from Hillary to Barack.
Maybe there was also some gratitude on Obama’s part for ACORN being so active in New Mexico, particularly in and around Albuquerque & Santa Fe, where the (blue) vote in NM’s urban centers made the vote in the rest of the state almost irrelevant.
Combine this suggestion of Holder helping Richardson with his legal troubles with the dismissal of the case against the Black Panthers, and a reasonable person might wonder just how blatant a pattern of tweaking the law could become.
(for the record, in Arizona, the Hispanic Bar Assn. has passed through a law banning the use of the term “illegal aliens” in court documents. Maybe undocumented workers are referred to now as “children of God”, per John McCain’s use of that term to describe illegals.)
41. Scott, indeed. And the guy occupying the white house doesn’t have to show ID to get there, either.
You’d be surprised at how easy it is to literally lose your identity. A friend of mine did it. If you let your driver’s license expire in some states, and then you move out of state, you can be in a real catch-22, not having enough ID to get a driver’s license.
That’s if you obey the law, anyway.
tanstaafl-
That about sums it up. But to reiterate the point, Richardson is a liberal latino; had he been white or conservatie (God help him if he were both), then this would not have disappeared so neatly, nor would there have been such a near-total media blackout on the affair. Seriously, can you imagine the frenzy that would’ve ensued had this been Sara Palin?
I know Obama was doing his best to get people appointed to key positions in his cabinet based solely on racial identity politics. But not to worry; he finally found his latino to fill a seat in the Supreme Court instead, one who wouldn’t even be qualified to be a juror based on her racist slant. But he really did want Richardson who, like himself, clings to one-half of his heritage while dismissing the other half as little more than genetic pollution.
You can totally see the empathy Obama had for him.
Scott:
you can add
6) The Atlantic slave trade was only a fraction of the size and longevity of the Red Sea, Mediterranean and Levantine slave trade into the Muslim world.
@27
Liberal defends voter intimidation. How unsurprising, considering they hold the same view on Card Check.
I used to be a hardcore ultra leftist so I can tell you exactly why. Many whites on the left don’t think it’s even possible for non-whites to be bigoted. Male leftists don’t think women can’t be sexists either. And they believe that islam is just as peace loving and moderate as Christianity, Judaism and Buddhism. Believing otherwise makes you an ignorant bigot. They’ve been spoonfed politically correct history revisionism ever since they were children that white people and Western civilization is evil and the oppressors of all other races. Every other race and civilization in their view was benign and peace loving who just wanted to mind their own business until the evil white devil showed up and enslaved their people, stole their resources, forced their religious beliefs and culture and carried out numerous genocides. Therefore any racism and bigotry directed at whites, males, Christians and conservatives is 110% justified. “What goes around comes around” they would say. So not only do they ignore non-white bigotry they actively encourage it. Also Marx himself advocated using identity based politics to create tribal like groups to be used as a spear and shield to enforce socialist revolution – something which left wing groups use to great success still to this day. Combine that with minority angst and you get rampant unchecked bigotry and extremist ethnic loyalty within minority groups and decisions to let black panther racists off the hook. Not to mention the election of presidential nominees with bigoted radical black nationalist roots…
51. Blackwater, correct. And this very same indulgence and lack of introspection explains why there’s not only so much homophobia and misogyny in minority cultures, but also why they’re not very tolerant of each other. Ask a Black sometime what he things of an Hispanic, or vice versa. It’s not all peace, love, and hippy beads. The same indulgence that permits bigotry toward whites permits bigotry toward anyone.
Wonder why prop 8 happened? The liberals have only themselves to blame.
The fundamental issue is defending the constitution. Democracy suffered when Jim Crow was allowed to thrive in the face of the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments. Nonetheless, the civil rights movement was multi-racial and broadly supported. If this type of neo-racism is not reversed, that contribution will be lost and we will slide back into tribalism (as Johnny Dunn has previously noted).
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic …
When the police become corrupt, then civilization is ended.
Ms. Rubin:
“Translation: the civil rights laws will be interpreted and enforced not as protecting anyone who is discriminated against or intimidated on the basis of race, as the civil rights laws provide, but as protecting only those of certain races.”
Translation: The Department of Justice is being morphed into the “Department of Prosecuting Whitey”.
Attorney-General Holder:
Are you SURE you know what you’re doing, sir?
Have you really thought out ALL of the possible ramifications of this?
Ain’t none of them pretty, and all of them, sooner or later, are bloody and ugly.
Best for none of us to “go there”.
Call as fair a game as you humanly can.
Re 18: Alarming, isn’t it, that the “professional” civil service has turned out to be worse than the old spoils system? It doesn’t seem that we can go back, and the view forward is cataclysmic.
Something has got to give, but how will it break? All I know is that the farther left the race opportunists shove the pendulum, the more violently it will eventually swing back as it seeks the center. If I were a black, I’d be thinking very carefully about just how far I want to push my grievances, lest Nathan Bedford Forrest’s partisans return from the grave–this time on both sides of the Mason-Dixon.
Re 2: Black Liberation Theology’s pseudo-Hegelian “rational study of the being of God” is anything but. The “modern Proclus” would have tossed its bellowing schucksters out of the lecture hall for pretending that the particular–race–is the universal–the human being as such. Any rogue or sophomore can parrot Hegelian vocabulary, but such mendacity is inadequate to the concept.
Re 44: Even more ironic, some Cherokees, even full-bloods like the Vanns, owned black slaves–before and after the Removal. Although not all the tribe approved the decision, the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma fought for the South during the War Between the States!
Can someone name the victim – the person so intimidated by others exercising their right to peaceably assemble that they were unable to cast their ballot?
No?
I didn’t think so. This was never a case the government could win on the merits.
Peace.
DS
Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it….
The Obama administration is looking more and more like some of the corrupt Carpetbagger/Scalawag/Freedmen governments during Radical Reconstruction. The result of those excesses, supported by Union bayonets, was ultimately the growth of Jim Crow and the disenfranchisement of blacks in the South. I don’t think the people of the US are going to tolerate much more ACORN and the Obama racial machine. It’s not racist to criticize a racialist.
I think the completely indiscriminate use of the cry of “racism” will ultimately backfire, one of two ways: some people may react by simply completely discounting the charge, that is it will lose all force; in other cases, people may well say ‘if they’re going to call me a racist no matter what I say, then I might as well be a thoroughgoing racist’ — neither of these reactions are going to do minorities any good in the long run.
#59 David S:
“Can someone name the victim – the person so intimidated by others exercising their right to peaceably assemble that they were unable to cast their ballot?
No?
I didn’t think so. This was never a case the government could win on the merits.”
It had already WON the case, you slobbering half-wit! The NBPP defendants hadn’t even bothered to show up!
This was a default.
And yes, I can name who was injured.
Every White voter registered at that polling place, and by extension every registered voter in the State of Pennsylvania and the Nation.
I ask you the same question I asked Holder.
Have you REALLY thought about what you’re doing here?
Because I don’t think you fully appreciate what lies beyond what you are apparently defending.
There might come a time down that path when cries of “Racism” are not just ignored, but shouted down with scorn…even when there really ARE valid cases of racism being protested.
You should think about what kind of place that might be for a minority, because I have.
And it wouldn’t be pretty.
(And I’m not even what is considered a minority).
As usual, I think you are right on the money, Jennifer.
O recall everytime the Bush administration tried to change anything in that Division, a very slanted version of the events made it to the font page of the Washington Post where the career lawyers seemed to have a ratline.
That they feel above the law is obvious in the stonewalling of the Civil Rights Division over this incident.
When the government abdicates its responsibility for enforcing laws, it is opening the door to a far grimmer and more error-prone way of preserving civil society.
I’m just sayin’.
Hmmm … does this mean that the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department is discriminating against petitioners on the basis of race?
Isn’t that itself a violation of the Civil Rights Act? Could Holder & Company be prosecuted for that come a change in administration?
Re: #59
So, unless a specific individual was prevented from voting, the case can’t be won, eh? Congratulations! You just eliminated half or more of the laws on the books, since they address the possibility of harm, not the actuality of it.
@59
So you would support groups of white supremacists intimidating racial minorities at the polls?
Good to know.
Re 59: What is your point here? Are you saying that the presence of stick-wielding thugs at a polling booth is not facially intimidating?
And what is this “peace?” A vegetable is at peace. A man, to be a man, must engage the struggles of thought and self-determination and must take a stand. A person who submits without even seeking recourse from the law to being turned away from a polling booth by a panther remains placid and peaceful, but he is no longer properly a man. A system of law that does not protect him is a system of barbarism, its putative president fit only to run a banana republic.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
This is affirmative action justice. We are now paying the price of having abandoned fairness for a racially based set of unfair rules in work, law, social interaction, and culture. Worst of all, the culture of affirmative action has taken hold among its beneficiaries, giving then a sense of entitlement to being treated according to a special set of rules that apply only to them.
The sad fact is that there is today much more racism among blacks directed at whites than there is among whites directed at blacks. But blacks feel entitled to their racism; it is affirmative action racism, and they see it as right and justified, something they are entitled to feel and say and practice. Thus, we get phenomena like Jeremiah Wright and Obama’s 20 years of attendance at his racistr sermons. Thus obama’s thoughtless words about Crowley; I’m sure he was genuinely surprised at the reaction of non-blacks. After all, he is entitled to say bigoted things about white men.
This is going to be hard to change. But having a black president finally begins to expose the hidden black culture of entitlement and racism to friction and interaction with the rest of the culture. It is the beginning of a chance to reconstruct our community.
Good points #52. I completely agree.
59. You don’t understand legal theory very well, do you? An offense against an individual is a civil matter. A crime is an offense against the entire society. That’s why the prosecutor sues in the case of a crime. Crimes aren’t against victims, they’re against society. That’s why a victim can sue in civil court independently of a criminal action without double jeopardy.
We need some new trolls. These ones all wore out.
David S (#59) – you don’t understand the particulars of the federal law. Even if there was nobody actually intimidated, the mere attempt at intimidation would violate the voting rights act. It bans both the attempt to intimidate and actual intimidation. A wise Congress envisioned exactly what happened in Philadelphia. An effective attempt produces no voters.
Nevertheless, there are numerous reports that there WERE voters intimidated – from multiple eyewitnesses. Why would you or anyone defend this behaviour – unless you subscribe to anarchy and lawlessness.
Not much to say except I am proud that America has made so much progress in terms of race. We, as a nation can be very proud of our electorate, when they… the new majority, sees beyond skin color and instead, appreciates character. Articles like these only serve to incite racial hatred so I will not comment on it to give it any importance.
This is affirmative action justice.
It is, in the worst sense. And it’s because we are saddled with the worst instance of affirmative action since the idea slithered insidiously from the late 60′s: We (they) elected to put a man in the office of CIC, despite his woeful lack of genuine accomplishments and military service, simply because he’s kinda black.
It boggles the mind because, as history shows time & again, progressive liberals see blacks not as people, but as targets to hide behind & use a political brownie points (no pun intended). They spend their lives trying to convince blacks that they cannot make it on their own & that they need liberals to “protect them”.
It does give me hope that many blacks are starting to see past the BS and realize that what Larry Elder said was spot-on:
“Democrats need black people. It’s not the other way around.”
Mr. Thomson (#1), I too saw very early that an Obama presidency would be anything but post-racial, and that having him in office would fan the flames of resentment. I also predicted, sad to say correctly, that dissent would be labeled as racist. What the left has done to langiage is an outrage; thanks to them the very word “racism” will be stripped of its meaning, such that when actual racism really does occur, citizens who might otherwise have taken it seriously will be less-inclined to do so.
Mr. T. (#8): “I am a former Department attorney in the SPL section in Civil Rights. Your article reveals what everyone there knows. Whites are the target of the Department because whites are the historical oppressors. They are the imperialists and slavemasters.” I am a part-time graduate student in history at a quite liberal university, and you are indeed correct, white males are the all-purpose whipping boy these days, no matter what the (alleged) crime. My question for you is this: Now that we the people have justice department less interested in dispensing justice, than in being pseudo-intellectual marxists and race-grievance-mongers, what is to be done about it? These are appointees, beholden only to the President, are they not? Can they be recalled by referendum or other action? I suspect not. What does that leave us, what recourse?
(#9) tanstaafl: “What does a community organizer do? He organizes are the resentments and paranoia within a community, directing those feelings against other communities, from whom either benefits or revenge are to be gotten, using whatever rhetoric or tactics will accomplish that purpose.” Precisely; “community organizer” = Marxist sypathizer and mole, radical agitator, grievance monger.
Bohemond (#18):
“Unfortunately the career government workforce necessarily skews Left and always will.” If we ever hope to reclaim our republic, this had better change. That means finding talented, committed conservatives – real ones, not imposters – and getting them interested in government service. It will be an ugly job, but eventually given time and numbers, we’ll reclaim what has been lost. “Moreover, the permanent bureaucracy’s culture is effectively immune to political changes. No matter who occupies the White House, nearly all hiring decisions are made well down the organization chart.” Again correct, and this also must change if meaningful reform is to take place. To coin a phrase, “Presidents come and go, but bureaucrats are forever.”
Delia (#39): “The stark contrast of black people cheering, dancing and shouting vs the white people looking shocked, disgusted and horrified when O.J. Simpson got off for murdering two white people should have been a dire warning.” Indeed it should have, you are so very right.
Scott (#41): “You know what I find insulting? I have to show ID to purchase cough syrup when I’m sick and canned air when I want to clean my computer but people don’t have to show ID when voting for the people that will govern our counties, states, and nation?” It gets worse, Obama literally could not pass a basic background and security check to serve on his own Secret Service detail, because of his past, questionable associations with known criminals and terrorists. Yet, the man made it all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue without so much as anyone lifting an eyebrow – except me, screaming at my TV (which do precisely zero good as you can tell). Bet you $20 that the next domino to fall is the requirement that the Chief Executive be native born.
Blackwater (#51): “Many whites on the left don’t think it’s even possible for non-whites to be bigoted. Male leftists don’t think women can’t be sexists either. And they believe that islam is just as peace loving and moderate as Christianity, Judaism and Buddhism. Believing otherwise makes you an ignorant bigot. They’ve been spoonfed politically correct history revisionism ever since they were children that white people and Western civilization is evil and the oppressors of all other races.” Sadly, you are correct; I am a conservative historian, and I’ve been in the belly of the beast, so to speak, and seen/heard the leftist view of history close-up. It is happening exactly as you say.
(#68) Chiron: “The sad fact is that there is today much more racism among blacks directed at whites than there is among whites directed at blacks. But blacks feel entitled to their racism.” Not all do, but many do… thankfully, some courageous Americans who happen to be black are coming forward to denounce racism which is just as evil practiced against whites as by them.
@61. Bilgeman:
#59 David S:
“This was never a case the government could win on the merits.”
It had already WON the case, you slobbering half-wit! The NBPP defendants hadn’t even bothered to show up!
This was a default.
Hence the government did not win on the merits of the case. QED
And yes, I can name who was injured.
Every White voter registered at that polling place, and by extension every registered voter in the State of Pennsylvania and the Nation.
Except there is no evidence that anyone was intimidated.
I ask you the same question I asked Holder.
Have you REALLY thought about what you’re doing here?
Because I don’t think you fully appreciate what lies beyond what you are apparently defending.
Defending the right of the People to peaceably assemble is a fundamental way of defending our Republic.
There might come a time down that path when cries of “Racism” are not just ignored, but shouted down with scorn…even when there really ARE valid cases of racism being protested.
News flash: cries of racism are already ignored, and frequently shouted down with scorn, even when there really are valid cases of racism being protested. The time is now.
You should think about what kind of place that might be for a minority, because I have.
And it wouldn’t be pretty.
(And I’m not even what is considered a minority).
I think there are much bigger an more systemic barriers to participation in democracy than a NBPP member monitoring the polls. Show me real harm, and I’ll support real punishment. Nobody here can prove intimidation occurred or was intended – the case was never there.
Peace.
DS
One thing I don’t understand about this incident is why the New Black Panther’s were intimidating voters at a mostly black precinct. Were they trying to scare away a few non-black voters. Presumably most of the black voters were gonna vote for Obama right?
Selective prosecution. I am dismayed to find that only one comment (38. karlinsync) directly addressed what I believe is at stake — here and in many other cases — the rule of law. That foundational principle that yokes actions to accountability in a predictable way. Tyranny is the clear alternative.
buck smith, not everyone was black where the thugs were:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4MTQVMatW0
…why the New Black Panther’s were intimidating voters at a mostly black precinct.
Flexing their muscles. Being seen.
Showing any newsies who showed up to film them and any handy “white crackers” exactly who was about to take over America.
Re 75 at “Defending the right of the People to peaceably assemble is a fundamental way of defending our Republic:”
If you mean that the panthers had assembled peacefully in front of the polling booths, you are either woefully ignorant or viciously mendacious. Translate your excuse to the Alabama of 1870 and, unless partisanship should have utterly consumed awareness, you will understand just how mistaken your assertion is.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
How can a “default judgment” be dismissed? If it is indeed a judgment one would think that the court in which the judgment was entered should have a say in the matter. More importantly however Holder made the decision to exculpate (assuming he had the power to do so) the defendants and an explanation from him is required in the interests of even handed enforcement of the laws. This has not been forthcoming which suggests that the Attorney General and the President (Holder’s appointing authority) are both chargeable with the accusation of a double standard: one for the “ins” and another for the “outs”.
Why do I hate the Obamanation and his acolytes and the fawning MSM well it’s not because he’s black; it’s because he’s red.
We could also say it’s not his pigment–it’s his policies.
@80. Noesis Noeseos:
If you mean that the panthers had assembled peacefully in front of the polling booths, you are either woefully ignorant or viciously mendacious.
You can’t support that claim. I am well aware of the facts of the case, and I see no evidence of intimidation here. A single NBPP member holding a nightstick is not the equivalent of an 1870 Alabama lynch mob, and you know it.
Again, there is no evidence that anyone was intimidated or threatened in any way. Pursuing this case would have been a misuse of the resources of the Justice Department. There is no violation of law here.
Peace.
DS
It seems that lodging charges of racism is the prime modus operandi of the Obama administration and its fellow travelers when it comes to defending the indefensible, such as the entire Obama administration.
Latest to jump into the act is the semi-senile former President James Earl Carter, the sludge-brained legacy-seeker who again contends that ”racism is an issue for President Obama in trying to lead the country.”
I don’t get Jimmah.
After heading the most ineffectual and bumbling government since Harding, you’d think he’d be itching to see Obama fail so that Obama would supplant him as the worst president in almost a century. With or without Carter’s help, I think Obama will capture that prize.
Or, is that racist to say?
I also don’t get Attorney General Eric Himpton Holder. At least I didn’t until I heard him speak and checked his record.
Barely wet behind the ears as the nation’s chief law enforcer, he tipped his racial hand when he said in February, “Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards:” http://bit.ly/SBZ5T.
Ok, so we knew from the get-go that Holder had, let’s say, “racial issues,” as many such issues as Harvard’s Prof. Louis Henry Gates, Van Jones, and many others in Obama’s employ.
We also knew from Holder’s background that he had helped gain the pardon of Marc Rich, had negotiated protection money from Chiquita Brands to a terrorist organization, had opposed the Patriot Act, had endorsed gun bans in D.C., had supported clemency for members of the terrorist Boricua Popular Army, and wanted GITMO shuttered asap.. . .
(Read the rest at http://genelalor.com)
‘I see no evidence of intimidation here.’
Who cares what you think you see? You weren’t there. This civil rights attorney WAS there, one of several witnesses to voter intimidation by the NBBP.
‘President Obama’s Justice Department continues to stonewall inquiries about why it dropped a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party.’
‘The episode—which Bartle Bull, a former civil rights lawyer and publisher of the left-wing Village Voice, calls “the most blatant form of voter intimidation I’ve ever seen”—began on Election Day 2008. Mr. Bull and others witnessed two Black Panthers in paramilitary garb at a polling place near downtown Philadelphia. (Some of this behavior is on YouTube.)’
‘One of them, they say, brandished a nightstick at the entrance and pointed it at voters and both made racial threats. Mr. Bull says he heard one yell “You are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker!”‘
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203550604574361071968458430.html
“I am well aware of the facts of the case”
LOL.
“Again, there is no evidence that anyone was intimidated or threatened in any way.”
The DOJ had sworn affadavits saying otherwise, as well as a video showing an armed NBBP member at the polling place.
“Show me real harm, and I’ll support real punishment.”
It isn’t an issue of punishment, Mr. “I know the facts of the case” (hilarious). It was a civil lawsuit, not a criminal prosecution, and no one was going to be punished. The result of the suit would have been that the members of the NBBP would have been enjoined to stay away from polling places, and perhaps be made to pay legal costs…no punishment.
This is the law that was being violated.
“No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose…”
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/usc_sec_42_00001971—-000-.html
“Peace.”
Not with lefty liars.
I think David S. in only going to see what he wants to see, which requires him to block out the majority of information in this case.
Man, you hate to see a presumably grown man struggling with cognitive dissonance, but as the saying goes, “There are none so blind as those who will not see”. I wonder how this would have gone over in David’s mind if it had been Klan members instead of their black counterparts…
@85. Dave Surls:
It isn’t an issue of punishment, Mr. “I know the facts of the case” (hilarious). It was a civil lawsuit, not a criminal prosecution, and no one was going to be punished. The result of the suit would have been that the members of the NBBP would have been enjoined to stay away from polling places, and perhaps be made to pay legal costs…no punishment.
Sure. Having your right to peaceably assemble curtailed, and having to pay for the privilege, can’t possibly be a punishment. You can’t be that dense.
“No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose…”
Exactly. And there is still nothing that indicates intimidation, threat or coercion was used, attempted or contemplated. I believe prosecution of this case would have been a much more problematic precedent than dismissal. I have watched the video and find no evidence to support prosecution therein.
86. AlanABQ:
I think David S. in only going to see what he wants to see, which requires him to block out the majority of information in this case.
If you want to cite the facts I have missed, by all means do so. What I see is some politically active citizens exercising their right to observe the polls, who were targeted for prosecution due to their political beliefs and physical appearance.
Man, you hate to see a presumably grown man struggling with cognitive dissonance, but as the saying goes, “There are none so blind as those who will not see”. I wonder how this would have gone over in David’s mind if it had been Klan members instead of their black counterparts…
Klan members have the same right to observe the polls as anyone else. If they want to peacefully observe a polling location, I have no objections. I support equal protection for all – much like the ACLU.
Peace.
DS
So a couple of morons with sticks stood outside a polling place until the cops ran them off. No one has come forward to complain that he or she was intimidated from voting. So the DOJ looked into it thoroughly and decided there wasn’t enough to prosecute. Possible embarrassment to the administration may have entered into that decision. And that’s it. Not much of a foundation for this edifice of conspiracy Jennifer Rubin is trying to erect.
now we will see how subcultures handle every day life in high positions.as long as white people dont scather things up for them.obama,holder and polosi,the newest members of the three marxist.distroy america from within and use the jewish owned media to help back them up.whites are not part of the three marxists agenda,only there distruction on a global scale!sick,and sick!
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