Why Create an ‘Enemies List’ When There Are Already Campaign Finance Laws?
Last week, the debate about health care reform was transformed into one about free speech — specifically, whether the Obama administration is trying to chill the speech of its critics by creating an “enemies list.”
The ruckus started when the White House called on its supporters to help it combat what it calls “disinformation” about its health care agenda that is being propagated through emails, websites, and “casual conversation.” Specifically, it asked: “If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.”
Of course, the emails forwarded to the White House will usually include the authors’ and recipients’ names, email addresses and other personal information. Following a barrage of criticism that this information could be used to monitor — and thus suppress — the speech of those who oppose administration policies, the White House tried to reassure the public that the president is not ushering in the era of Big Brother.
The White House is right. The era of Big Brother is already here.
Politicians ushered it in long ago with the enactment of federal and state campaign finance laws that require “disclosure” when you spend money to try to influence the outcome of an election. If you want to give money to candidates, ballot issue groups, or advocacy groups, or to spend your money on things like web pages, fliers, and newspaper ads, the government will require you to “name names.” That is, you (or the organization you support) will have to report not only what you spend and what cause or candidate you’re supporting or opposing, but also who you are, where you live, and even where you work. The government will then compile a database of that information and put it on the Internet for all to see.
One thing that has been missing from every administration in our nation’s history up until now is that the President didn’t order anyone to go out into the public at large and beat the living snot out of any person they found that disagrees with the President.
Anymore questions about Obama’s enemies list?
Who knew that the Black Panthers at the polling place on election day was only the beginning of Obama’s thugocracy? Now that he’s “organizing” his purple-shirted SEIU union army to take over the town hall meetings, having one’s name on some list at the White House is the least of our worries.
#1 Danger . . . And you can prove that? Of course you can’t. You WANT it to be true. Or you’ve been TOLD that it’s true. But it’s not true. And if it were, you could prove it. But you can’t.
The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise. Pass it on.
#3 now & then – how about here and now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr_4ZWEFOjQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU
Fun, isn’t it, to lie about “enemies lists” that don’t exist? Fun to pretend to be victims, isn’t it just? The “list” is a list of LIES being told, NOT the liars who LIE the lie.
But please, adjust those tinfoil hats and keep pretending.
Yes, Deep Brain Diarist, the Obama’s nark website is indeed just a figment of our imagination.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/
Apology accepted “Deep” Brain Diarist.
#5 TOMP . . . How does that prove what you claimed, that Obama ordered people to go out into the public at large and beat the living snot out of any person they found that disagrees with the him.
Where’s the proof? A memo? A phone call recording? An eye witness? Anything, anything at all that proves Obama ordered what you say he ordered? No. Nothing.
Think for yourself. It’s the American way
Now and Then… When the White House is telling supporters to “punch back twice as hard”?
Now it’s your turn to “think for yourself”. Why would you condone violent behavior from an administration? Why would you back a President that used the Black Panthers to guard polling places? Is that the American way?
I await your answers.
I’m still laughing at this headline. It reminds me of Christians arguing about whether unbaptized children go to hell or limbo. As long as you’re going to make up imaginary powers for the Obama administration, why not heat vision?
Its like Sarah Palin said, in honor of the troops, could ya quit making stuff up?
During the presidential campaign there was the boobama army, the volunteer (mandatory) service, civilian security force etc. When they come to life in the form of the seiu everybody is dumbfounded. You have the WH stepping in when a harvard proffessor gets arrested. You have the WH stepping in when the IG catches a mayor stealing government funds. You have the WH stepping in when black panthers are about to be prosecuted. You have nothing coming out of the WH when the seiu gets involved violently in the town halls. The fact is that everyone was just dumb enough that they didn’t think this could happen.
This, from the Jewish Daily Forward, could serve as a response to 90% of the crap that appears on this site:
http://forward.com/articles/111855/
WHY? Because Obama is a stalinist,that’s why.Wait till the next congressional elections, where ACORN thugs attempt to protect the democratic majority through voter fraud and intimidation.This puke has as much respect for free speech,and fair elections, as did Castro,Stalin,and his other heroes.
Re biblio44: What’s the Jewish Daily Forward’s feelings about the Black Panthers protecting the polling places on election day?
Now #3 and Deep #6 sound a lot alike. Why would a lefty assume two persons?
Arguing with you is amusing but a waste of time. And asking for proof is really the pot calling the kettle black; also funny because I know I’ve asked you to prove points before and you have not…
When the only tools you have
are a hammer and sickle…
Citizens exercising Free Speech
look like nails which need to be
hammered down.
Or Tarquin’s Poppies; Brr.
What does Obama expect to gain
by doing this ?
#12
BIBLIO44
Sorry pal, your little bleat just doesn’t wash. I recall a few references to GWB as being likened to Hitler, as well. How about the book celebrating the assasination of Bush? Did not a large majority of your Jewish voters cast their votes for the Messiah (irony intended !) ? Sorry, but to paraphrase The Messiah’s religious mentor – that paragon of Christian thought, Jeremiah Wright, “your chickens are coming home to roost” ! Please peddle your liberal crap on Daily Kos, or Huffington. I’m certain they’d be far more receptive….
77/88
S.M.
It reminds me of Christians arguing about whether unbaptized children go to hell or limbo.
Clean-up on Aisle 10. Clean-up on Aisle 10. Insulated Left-liberal anti-Christian bigot revealing his true colors with a non sequitor metaphor about Christians or Christianity.
Non-sensical perambulations about Jesus being a liberal and taxes being charitable giving in 5,4,3,2,1 ….
Signed,
An Agnostic
Obama is a real and present danger to the USA. He needs to be impeached and removed from office. My prediction; the GOP gets landslide victories in ’10 and wins the Presidency in ’12, too. I bet Obama will not seek a 2nd term. He’s in over his head.
Aureliano: I made no bigoted remarks about any religion. Or are you saying that if I am a Jew or Agnostic, I must accept the fantastical interpretations of reality propgated by Christians? Wait, don’t answer that, you people scare me enough as it is.
Ditto Danger ahead..
It is appalling that the bullying “I will trump you on that” children currently occupying the White House would stoop so low in their (latest) attempt to terrorize their fellow citizens..
Additionally, these Fingertips find it no small accident same said adolescents chose the word Flag itself to associate with such offensive 1984-invoking behavior.. Why not, oh, off the very tippy-tippy-top of my head: HealthCareEmails.. Or HCEmails.. Or.. Or..
OR.
The reason, THE ONLY CONSCIOUS REASON, to choose that particular word would be to attach an unforgivable negative connotation to a word that immediately brings forth a mental image of Old Glory, a national icon, along with a unified front in fighting for love of country and freedoms for patriotic United States citizens..
A fellow member over at Tea Party Patriots put the professional terminology to this deliberate act by the White House kiddles…..
PsyOp.
We will trump them on that.
It’s actually quite obvious…..
We already have.
Moho….We scare you? That’s rich. You and your idiot friends with no education, work experience or morality are now in charge of the country and look what glorious wonders the liberal administration has already wrought…
Unemployment now over 9%.
War in Afghanistan now predicted to last 10 years or more with Obama now pumping in more troops.
Gitmo still open with Obama now wanting to farm them out to our backyards.
Government takeover of banking and automakers.
Government throwing out case of Black Panther voter intimidation with no explanation.
President showing obvious racism by automatically taking black professor/friends side.
President telling rabid followers to “punch back twice as hard” on Americans voicing dissent.
Democratic congress ordering 500 Billion in new jets only to back down when Fox News reports on.
President says he “doesn’t want to hear from” any other voices other than his kook-aid army.
And on, and on, and on…. No end to the tragedy that is the Obama Regime in sight…
Yep, the liberals sure have a funny vision of Utopia don’t they? This is what we get when a community organizer thug politician is elected.
Thank you Moho. You can go back to sleep now. You’ve done enough.
Disproportunate taxation IS Slavery!
Look up the definition of slavery!
“Schlechter Käse riecht gleiche gleichgültig, dem Weise Sie es halten.”
“Bad cheese smells the same no matter which way you hold it.”
Obama looked like bad cheese.
Obama smelled like bad cheese.
Obama tastes like bad cheese.
And what did the voters do?
Stepped waist deep into the bad cheese.
Thinkingperson–>
This is basically the reason why no one’s taking you people seriously. There was only one issue which you brought out that has any link to reality or is worth addressing or can even be examined with evidence–the rest are just right-wing fantasies.
You said that Unemployment is now over 9% because of Obama?
What a load of incredible bs–the unemployment rate nearly doubled from January 2008 to January 2009, and increased on average half a percent every month during that period. By the time the stimulus plan was in place, the unemployment rate was already 9.5%. It actually dropped in July to 9.4%. Your stupidity on this one was offensive in the extreme.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2009/feb/wk2/art02.htm
http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=4543
What’s frightening about you people is that you need absolutely no factual information to launch yourselves into gun wielding public explosions of anguish. Your rage is your own, but its not based on anything in the real world. Your party was in charge for eight years. During six of those years it had an uncontested majority and a docile Democratic congress.
Moho… What’s “frightening” is that uneducated people like you were allowed to vote.
Has Obama paid off your mortgage and filled your tank with gas as he promised? You were bought by Obama. Go spout your BS to someone else who’s buying the crap sandwich you’re peddling. I, for one, am not so easily manipulated by elected officials, not to mention misled, unread posters.
We all know the truth. Obama took a bad economy and RAN IT INTO THE GROUND. He took a war in progress and is making AFGHANISTAN worse. He’s taking advantage of your wide-eyed hero worship and is picking your pocket behind your back.
Keep on looking backwards Moho if it helps you sleep at night. Until then, I’ll remain up to date on the issues at hand so when it’s time to tell my future generations what happened to turn the US into the USSA, I’ll be able to point at people like you that treated the Constitution like toilet paper and American citizens like chattel.
I’m done trying to educate you Moho. It’s like reasoning with a doorknob.
Would anyone else enjoy watching Olbermann sticking his foot in his mouth? I really enjoyed this video of him wringing his hands about the right to dissent in America. Funny how quickly he changed his tune isn’t it?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2009/08/11/hypocrisy-flashback-it-political-dissent-created-country-sustained-it-im
Gus Van Horn has an excellent article on his blog showing how the line between protecting the President and monitoring political debate, via Obama’s snitch program, is dangerously blurred.
http://gusvanhorn.blogspot.com/
read the whole thing.
The Ambiguity of Obama
Oh, there be different meanings for a word
Your enemies use ambiguity like a sword
Muddled thinking, hasty witless thought
And woe the trouble to me it has brought
troubled syntax, defective punctuation
point out our language of imperfection
Yet I try to prove logic from ambiguity
And I have the upper hand indubitably
With logic from chaos, I practice moral evil
evil is allowed for good, ye advocate a devil
Equivocal words a horrid curse in perpetuity
Aye no one else is judged in such perspicuity
Remember, I be Affirmative Action Trained
Obviously, more than a little, hare brained
But as long as yon teleprompter, gives cues
I can tell you exactly what to do with Jews
The Teleprompter works to my advantage
I’ll leave you the masses to your sacrilege
Despite my flaws in language proclivity
You bast***s can keep your ambiguity
“I read on Drudge that flag@whitehouse.gov has been buried in spam since it was announced. No, seriously, it’s a real rumor. A bunch of freedom-loving hackers from all over are behind it.”
Just as the threat of a possible future reprisal can act to suppress dissent in the present, the rumor that there is widespread spam being sent to flag@whitehouse.gov can act to suppress snitch reports at the source, even if it isn’t true.
If folks believe that their snitch report will be lost in an avalanche of spam, then they won’t even bother to send them.
So it’s come down to this: we now have a motive for spreading disinformation about spam in order to protect free speech.
Why an enemies list Mr. GAll?Because Obama, like all liberals, is a stalinist, and hopes that with the aid of Acorn, and illegal alien votes, he can stay in power forever, like his idol Chavez,and then he can use the list to send dissenters to Gulags run by his friend Bill Ayres!Let’s fight this incipient totalitarianism!
There is no question donation disclosure list are used for intimidation. Think about the restaurant manager was fired to placate Code Pink after 8 passed in California. I never donate more than $199 to a campaign in order to keep off the disclosure lists. I am certain in some professions in California and New York, you wouldn’t even get an interview if your name came up donating to Republican candidates or right wing issues.
Yes, those FEC lists will be quite useful to the Amerikan SS in the coming days indeed!
The John Galt Solution and Starving The Monkeys is the only solution!
When the looters have looted everything, there will be nothing to loot!
Sincerely,
John and Dagny Galt
Atlas Shrugged, Owners Manual For The Universe!(tm)
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I have an idea that *might* put this whole “send fishy emails to the Government” hooey. . .
I get occasional emails from the Whitehouse, and recently, they are all about health care “reform.”
If we all sign up to receive these emails, and then forward them to the Fishy Email Department, we could possibly overload the system, or perhaps even give “them” pause to think. . .
Just a thought.
Federal laws requiring campaign donation disclosure were pointedly ignored when millions of untraceable dollars came into Obama’s coffers from overseas credit card donations. No serious attempt was made to determine the sources or the legality. So the easy way to get around the law is – use a credit card through a non-U.S. website.
In the Communist Manifesto Karl Marx said the means of communication must be controlled so the Maoist Obama White House has not choice. If you are not sufficiently Socialist, you are on the Enemies List.