Comments on: Why Cops Shouldn’t Enforce Immigration Laws http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-cops-shouldnt-enforce-immigration-laws/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:23:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: World Citizen http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-cops-shouldnt-enforce-immigration-laws/#comment-437265 World Citizen Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:10:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=42199#comment-437265 As partial evidence of the civil rights protection for aliens, the 14th Amendment caontains the following clause: "No state shall ... deprive any PERSON of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any PERSON within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Nothe the ue of the word "person" not citizen. The rules that prevent police officers from "rounding up" unauthorized aliens are the same rules that protect you and every other American from unwarranted search and seizure, unlawful detentions, and the "knock in the night" on your front door. Ilegal immigrations is a definite issue that cannot be solved with simplistic "feel-good" responses. The removal of aliens not authorized in the U.S. is an adminisrtative process, not a criminal process. Maybe if officer "Dunphy" wasn't so busy worring about ilegal aliens and focuses on fighting crime out in the streets, like he should be doing, maybe then... As partial evidence of the civil rights protection for aliens, the 14th Amendment caontains the following clause:
“No state shall … deprive any PERSON of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any PERSON within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Nothe the ue of the word “person” not citizen.
The rules that prevent police officers from “rounding up” unauthorized aliens are the same rules that protect you and every other American from unwarranted search and seizure, unlawful detentions, and the “knock in the night” on your front door. Ilegal immigrations is a definite issue that cannot be solved with simplistic “feel-good” responses.
The removal of aliens not authorized in the U.S. is an adminisrtative process, not a criminal process.
Maybe if officer “Dunphy” wasn’t so busy worring about ilegal aliens and focuses on fighting crime out in the streets, like he should be doing, maybe then…

]]> By: venividivici http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-cops-shouldnt-enforce-immigration-laws/#comment-176104 venividivici Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:12:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=42199#comment-176104 <i>Dave D: Ruben, but how can you enforce them then? The INS is incredibly inefficient, and to make it an effective national force would require prohibitive levels of spending and manpower. Unless you want to create a local border patrol state by state to deal with this, your article may just wind up making any real action too improbable to be done. Dec 23, 2008 - 7:49 pm</i> I thought of that immediately, too, but, I suspect that your last sentence is the actual point of Ruben's strategy. Keep the US mostly defenseless against illegal immigration. It's like a person saying they're only going to exercise if it's likely they'll become an Olympic champion, otherwise, they're just going to sit on the couch eating Cheetos. Well, guess what's the likely outcome in that scenario? Dave D:

Ruben, but how can you enforce them then? The INS is incredibly inefficient, and to make it an effective national force would require prohibitive levels of spending and manpower.

Unless you want to create a local border patrol state by state to deal with this, your article may just wind up making any real action too improbable to be done.

Dec 23, 2008 – 7:49 pm

I thought of that immediately, too, but, I suspect that your last sentence is the actual point of Ruben’s strategy. Keep the US mostly defenseless against illegal immigration.

It’s like a person saying they’re only going to exercise if it’s likely they’ll become an Olympic champion, otherwise, they’re just going to sit on the couch eating Cheetos. Well, guess what’s the likely outcome in that scenario?

]]> By: Pappadave http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-cops-shouldnt-enforce-immigration-laws/#comment-176027 Pappadave Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:29:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=42199#comment-176027 "Racial Profiling?" What the heck is wrong with that. If the police get a report that three Hispanic males, between the ages of 18 and 24 just robbed a bank and fled in a green '64 Chevy, how sane would it be for them to start stopping '02 white Cadillacs driven by two 75-year-old, blue-haired ladies? THAT'S what "racial profiling" IS, for Pete's sake! It's a perfectly legitimate law enforcement tool. That it's gotten such a bad rap by those on the far left is ample proof that racial profiling actually WORKS. “Racial Profiling?” What the heck is wrong with that. If the police get a report that three Hispanic males, between the ages of 18 and 24 just robbed a bank and fled in a green ’64 Chevy, how sane would it be for them to start stopping ’02 white Cadillacs driven by two 75-year-old, blue-haired ladies? THAT’S what “racial profiling” IS, for Pete’s sake! It’s a perfectly legitimate law enforcement tool. That it’s gotten such a bad rap by those on the far left is ample proof that racial profiling actually WORKS.

]]> By: The Historian http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-cops-shouldnt-enforce-immigration-laws/#comment-175212 The Historian Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:40:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=42199#comment-175212 AND THE DEMOCRAT TRIAL LAWYERS WOULD HAVE A FIELD DAY: http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/12/lawsuit-abuse-democrat-holy-grail.html AND THE DEMOCRAT TRIAL LAWYERS WOULD HAVE A FIELD DAY:
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/12/lawsuit-abuse-democrat-holy-grail.html

]]> By: john galt http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-cops-shouldnt-enforce-immigration-laws/#comment-175117 john galt Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:34:17 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=42199#comment-175117 the USA? nice concept, but it is over. 40 million hispanic people in this country looking for a way to stay will be given their wish during this election cycle. this will so tilt the numbers in favor of the democrats as to make it impossible for a republican to become president in the next 60 years. nobody will enforce the laws as it serves the purpose of the ruling elite. the USA? nice concept, but it is over.

40 million hispanic people in this country looking for a way to stay will be given their wish during this election cycle. this will so tilt the numbers in favor of the democrats as to make it impossible for a republican to become president in the next 60 years.

nobody will enforce the laws as it serves the purpose of the ruling elite.

]]> By: Chuck Pelto http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-cops-shouldnt-enforce-immigration-laws/#comment-174960 Chuck Pelto Fri, 26 Dec 2008 01:22:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=42199#comment-174960 TO: Ruben Navarrette Jr., et al. RE: Heh Shouldn't this title read.... <blockquote><b>Why Cops Shouldn't Enforce Laws</b></blockquote> Heck. Secretarys' of State won't enforce the Constitution of the United States. Why the hell should anyone expect cops to enforce laws too? 'nuff said. Regards, Chuck(le) [Those who believe that the ends justify the means will always prevail over those who believe in the rule of law, if those who enforce the law allow it to happen. -- CBPelto] P.S. Guess what..... TO: Ruben Navarrette Jr., et al.
RE: Heh

Shouldn’t this title read….

Why Cops Shouldn’t Enforce Laws

Heck.

Secretarys’ of State won’t enforce the Constitution of the United States.

Why the hell should anyone expect cops to enforce laws too?

’nuff said.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Those who believe that the ends justify the means will always prevail over those who believe in the rule of law, if those who enforce the law allow it to happen. -- CBPelto]

P.S. Guess what…..

]]> By: gcblues http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-cops-shouldnt-enforce-immigration-laws/#comment-174460 gcblues Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:11:26 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=42199#comment-174460 ARAMKR and Bill. i split time between Costa Rica and Nicaragua. i have not been in the USA for 3 yrs, each time i return is is stupider and stupider .... see first comment i made. bill, your ignorance describes the lack of stamps in your passport. if you have ever left the usa i am sure it is as a tourist on a controled planned trip. likely you have not gotten past the buffet. Mexico, like the usa uses and does not use their laws in a discriminatory manner solely to advance their needs. when to their advantage they use or do not use the law. this is the number one thing such "social" legislation causes, corruption. Americans are always surprised when travelers see the USA as corrupt or more corrupt than countries such as Mexico and Nicaragua. good lord, simply look at your IRS requirements, look at the bailouts, look at the president elect. gimme a break. bill, there is no excuse for your shallow thoughts. take a non tourist visit to my quinta en playas del coco en la playa de costa rica or my casa colonial en Rivas Nicaragua. i will introduce you to real communists, real ex contras and ex members of la guardia, you can review the tax and labor laws and see how little they are adhered to, and then actually make an educated comment. all the USA does with its millions of laws regulations, permits and punk cops is make it's citizens prisoners. que bueno. it is a telling state of affairs when the communist government under criminal Ortega has lower taxes and less repression than an average person can experience than in the uSA. buena suerte, you'll need it. ARAMKR and Bill.

i split time between Costa Rica and Nicaragua. i have not been in the USA for 3 yrs, each time i return is is stupider and stupider …. see first comment i made.

bill, your ignorance describes the lack of stamps in your passport. if you have ever left the usa i am sure it is as a tourist on a controled planned trip. likely you have not gotten past the buffet.

Mexico, like the usa uses and does not use their laws in a discriminatory manner solely to advance their needs. when to their advantage they use or do not use the law. this is the number one thing such “social” legislation causes, corruption. Americans are always surprised when travelers see the USA as corrupt or more corrupt than countries such as Mexico and Nicaragua. good lord, simply look at your IRS requirements, look at the bailouts, look at the president elect. gimme a break.

bill, there is no excuse for your shallow thoughts. take a non tourist visit to my quinta en playas del coco en la playa de costa rica or my casa colonial en Rivas Nicaragua. i will introduce you to real communists, real ex contras and ex members of la guardia, you can review the tax and labor laws and see how little they are adhered to, and then actually make an educated comment.

all the USA does with its millions of laws regulations, permits and punk cops is make it’s citizens prisoners. que bueno.

it is a telling state of affairs when the communist government under criminal Ortega has lower taxes and less repression than an average person can experience than in the uSA. buena suerte, you’ll need it.

]]> By: JL http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-cops-shouldnt-enforce-immigration-laws/#comment-174434 JL Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:09:15 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=42199#comment-174434 What makes violations of immigration laws so special that the police shouldn't enforce them? What other laws shouldn't they enforce then? Maybe we could each submit our own personal wish list of laws we would like not to be enforced by police. What makes violations of immigration laws so special that the police shouldn’t enforce them?

What other laws shouldn’t they enforce then?

Maybe we could each submit our own personal wish list of laws we would like not to be enforced by police.

]]> By: belloscm http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-cops-shouldnt-enforce-immigration-laws/#comment-174364 belloscm Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:39:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=42199#comment-174364 "The INS is incredibly inefficient,..." And the open borders/illegal immigrant apologists intend to keep it that way. If local police enforcement of immigration laws results in reduced rates of illegal immigration, well, there'll none of that! What I would love to see is the prosecution of those, to include family members, who abet and enable ilegal immigration. I do question their loyalty to this country and it's laws. “The INS is incredibly inefficient,…”

And the open borders/illegal immigrant apologists intend to keep it that way. If local police enforcement of immigration laws results in reduced rates of illegal immigration, well, there’ll none of that!

What I would love to see is the prosecution of those, to include family members, who abet and enable ilegal immigration. I do question their loyalty to this country and it’s laws.

]]> By: zanne http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-cops-shouldnt-enforce-immigration-laws/#comment-174309 zanne Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:56:17 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=42199#comment-174309 I live in a border state. Without sheriff Joe we would now be called Mexizona. La Raza and people like Ruben contribute to the power of "entitled" law breakers. Many illegals feel it is just a matter of time before they will get amnesty from Obama. They have been well coached on how to steal from the U.S. social system. News reports that many are leaving U.S. and returning to Mexico. But, anchor babies disolve that minus. I live in a border state. Without sheriff Joe we would now be called Mexizona. La Raza and people like Ruben contribute to the power of “entitled” law breakers. Many illegals feel it is just a matter of time before they will get amnesty from Obama. They have been well coached on how to steal from the U.S. social system. News reports that many are leaving U.S. and returning to Mexico. But, anchor babies disolve that minus.

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