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Where Is the GOP on the NSA Scandal?

Polls show voters from both parties are distrustful of Obama's expanded surveillance; one state lawmaker is trying to get Washington to listen.

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Bridget Johnson

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August 27, 2013 - 5:21 pm
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Out of all the scandals to befall the Obama administration, former contractor Edward Snowden’s revelations of National Security Agency surveillance have stoked a lasting sense of outrage among strong majorities across the political spectrum.

A July Washington Post-ABC News poll found 70 percent of Democrats and 77 percent of Republicans, as well as 76 percent of independents, agreeing that NSA surveillance of phone records and Internet traffic violates Americans’ privacy rights. A late July poll from the Pew Research Center for People & the Press found that only 30 percent believe there are currently appropriate limits on data collected and 70 percent think the government is using collected information for purposes other than fighting terrorism. And new details from the Snowden leaks and supplemental reporting keep dribbling out, provoking questions about how forthright the administration has been with Congress and the American people regarding the extent and uses of surveillance programs.

And yet Republicans seem to have ceded the scandal to a handful of civil libertarian Democrats and  GOPs instead of wholeheartedly picking up the hot-button issue and running with it.

In fact, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) was quick to label Snowden a “traitor,” putting GOP leadership in the White House’s corner shortly after the scandal broke.

President Obama, Boehner said in early June, outlined “these are important national security programs to help keep Americans safe, and give us tools to fight the terrorist threat that we face.”

A late July amendment from Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) to block funding for the NSA’s mass collection of phone metadata nearly passed the House, failing 205-217 but alarming many on the Hill and in the White House in the process. Ninety-four Republicans joined with 111 Democrats in voting for the amendment, bringing together unlikely allies such as Reps. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) and Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.). Among the “no” votes were allies Boehner and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-N.Y.).

But the fiercest, most consistent opposition in Congress has come from a small core of privacy advocates, including Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Mark Udall (D-Colo.), and Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Reps. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), Amash, and Patriot Act author Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.).

In lieu of any concerted focus from the national GOP on the NSA scandal, lawmakers at the state and local levels are trying to make their voices heard in Washington.

“I think it’s incumbent on all elected officials in every state legislature to weigh in on issues where we’re not seeing federal action,” California Assemblyman Travis Allen (R ) told PJM today.

Allen had just come from a Judiciary Committee hearing where his resolution urging Washington to respect Americans’ civil liberties was tabled as only four of the 10 committee members cast a vote.

“Resolved by the Assembly and the Senate of the State of California, jointly, that the Legislature of the State of California urges Congress and the President of the United States to make the protection of civil liberties and national security equal priorities, to immediately discontinue any practices that are contrary to the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, and to instruct our national security agencies to ensure that national security will be achieved without invasive violations of civil liberties; and be it further resolved, that this is not a partisan issue, but rather a constant concern that has been in the hearts of every American since the creation of our great nation and the ratification of the United States Constitution,” states AJR 26.

The resolution drew “huge” support as the assemblyman heard from people all over the country sharing “encouragement and, quite frankly, outrage.”

But within the statehouse, Allen saw division and heard from many lawmakers who have issues with  domestic surveillance but debated whether a state should be wading in. He also noticed “a lot of apprehension” among Democrats who were wary of being critical of the administration, though the American Civil Liberties Union stepped in as a “huge champion across party lines.”

Some legislators said it was a timely issue, but it was “a bit early to weigh in.”

“It’s never too early to protect our constitutional freedoms,” Allen said. “It’s never too early to protect our privacy.”

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"Where Is the GOP on the NSA Scandal?"

They've assumed the goatse position on the subject.
1 year ago
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Where is the GOP on this issue, same place they are on Obamacare, same place they are on IRS abuses or recess appointments, same as FnF or Bhengazi, Solyndra, Obama phones, GM bondholders name your poison. The GOP is collectively rubbing their hands together and just waiting for their next at bat when they will get a chance to unleash big gov against the other team. GWB set the table for Obama, the next Republican prez will take the Obama administration's tyrannical practices to heights never seen before.
1 year ago
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The fight is about which party or politician gets to exercise power of everyone. The fight isn't about shrinking government or limiting government power.

Really? When was the last time that republicans or conservatives actually limited government power or slashed government red tape, or slashed the budget?

The size, cost and power of government has only increased under each administration and whether Democrats or Republicans/conservatives were in power in The House and the Senate. It has never decreased.
Never.

Hint: They're lying to you.
1 year ago
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I am afraid most of the fight is phony. Not phony in the sense that good Republicans are being insincere when they express their firmly held believe that NSA surveillance in many respects has done serious harm to our political and privacy rights.

Phony in the sense that they know there is nothing much they can do about it. The Courts have already stripped us of those rights that would otherwise seem to make clear why the NSA is in the wrong.

Courts have denied privacy rights are violated in too many cases for it to be otherwise. If I walk down the street with a friend and talk to him I do not have any inalienable or absolute right that no one hear me.

If I am talking and pass someone sweeping in front of their store who hears me I cannot argue that per see his hearing me is a violation of a privacy right.

By extension the police do have the right to follow me without being intrusive and over hear my conversation. If I am talking on the street I have no valid expectation of privacy.

If I mail a letter to you and put the envelope into the mail box, as far as the Courts are concerned does the government violate my privacy if it records my and your address on a letter I sent if they do not open the letter?

Conservative arguments that you can't trust the government not to misses the point. What right DOES the government have to know I sent you a letter? That is already a violation of my privacy rights - but not recognize as such by the courts.

Another government and Court wrinkle is that he government can collect phone calls between phone numbers because the phone company owns the transmission tower and it is no longer your property.

But the following are not now my rights which is the problem - when I give a letter to the post office I authorize them only to deliver it. Not record it. Likewise when I join a cell phone company I allow them to transmit my phone call but nothing more.

The point of these Court decision is not only to expand government intrusion but - more important - to ignore and reduce our rights.
1 year ago
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The GOP is either supporting it (Rep King, etc) or fighting amongst itself (Cruz, Paul, Christie, etc). Basically being ineffectual. It needs to pull up its panties and stand firm against further unconstitutional government activities.
1 year ago
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Inaccurate analysis. Chris Christie should be shown with King, supporting the NSA spying. Cruz and Paul should be shown as the Leaders of the opposition against unwarranted spying. It is ridiculous to paint them as "fighting amongst one another" when you in the next breath ask for a firm stand against the very thing they are taking a firm stand on. Cruz, Paul, Mike Lee, Justin Amash, Sensenbrenner and Sarah Palin are the principled opposition. What is notable about this group? None of them are among the Republican Party leadership. They are all treated as undesirables by the Ruling Class of the Republican Party, and, apparently by you.
1 year ago
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"They know that this kind of carefully controlled, foreign targeted surveillance is necessary to our national security, and they know that most Americans also understand this."

Thank you for the regime's point of view, Mr. Carney. 'Carefully controlled'. I don't think those words mean what you think they mean. The secret, unaccountable court that supposedly oversees these activities rubberstamps that minority of cases where warrants are requested. But the vast majority of data collected on Americans is is vacuumed in without warrant or probable cause. All emails, all telephone conversations, all computer browsing. All with no accountability.

With the regime violating the law and Constitution at every turn; we are nowhere near the level of trust required for Americans to assume that this is not laying the foundation for a police state. They have violated their Oath to the Constitution so many times, that assuming ill intent is the only rational response.

As far as the Institutional Republicans are concerned, they are going to be silent, as they have since 2011. They will not fight back, because they are as Statist as the Democrats.

Two weeks ago, I went to a Congressional Town Hall. Mind you, my Congressman and his staff know me, some of the staff have known me for decades. I have been a delegate to his nominating convention voting for him every time he has run, and I probably would have been again if I had not left the Republican Party in disgust in January.

One of the staffers said, "I know you have questions. Don't go easy on him!". I wasn't. I tore into Obama for his violations of the law and the Constitution. Then I tore into the Republican Caucus for not taking any steps to oppose it, naming specifics. Then I tore into my Congressman for not standing up himself. Had trouble, because the 3-400 people there kept applauding. And I ended up getting a standing ovation. My Congressman had no answer.

The Republicans are not going to defend the Constitution. We are in another paradigm than the one we grew up with.

Subotai Bahadur
1 year ago
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The Old school idiots are in on it. Time for cleaning house.
1 year ago
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Seriously? Where is the gop on anything? I want a third alternative!
1 year ago
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The reason is probably Republicans are more responsible about national security than are Libertarians and Democrats. They understand that this is a far more complex issue than presented by the hysterics on the left and right. They know that this kind of carefully controlled, foreign targeted surveillance is necessary to our national security, and they know that most Americans also understand this. They know that such a program will always be abused by a few, producing lurid headlines, but that it is needed.

And... they know that we will eventually be hit with an attack that will have the American people screaming for a much more intrusive and less well thought out program, unless we already have one in place.

Finally, unlike the many other Obama scandals, this one is not partisan. The IRS suppressed conservative votes. Obama violates the Constitution when ignoring the Obamacare law's requirements.

But the NSA program is supported by both sides, is monitored by Congress and the Judiciary, is constitutional, and so far has had no indications of political (as opposed to personal) abuse.
1 year ago
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I suspect it'll come out that the NSA spying has been for the advancement of political goals of the current administration. I also strongly suspect that it's been used to collect blackmailable material to coerce legislative and judicial decisions in the President's favor.

The reason it's "non-partisan" is because it's in the Dem's favor, and the GOP refuses to rock the boat. The one that's diving beneath the waves.
1 year ago
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I have more than a suspicion. I am a retired Peace Officer, and I have some skill at reading people's behavior patterns. There are very few reasons strong enough to make so many politicians and judges change their behavior so drastically. Blackmail and extortion are way up there on the list of reasons.

Subotai Bahadur
1 year ago
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Dick Cheney and Chris Christie say all this surveillance on Americans is good and that we would probably all be killed in our sleep without it..
1 year ago
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