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When They Call You a Nazi, You’ve Won the Immigration Argument

Point/Counterpoint: In the right corner of the ring, the LAPD's Jack Dunphy favors Arizona's new immigration law: "But while the new AZ law's opponents are revealed as hysterics, it will still be uncomfortable for those police officers who must now go out and enforce it in an atmosphere of intense media scrutiny."

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Jack Dunphy

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May 1, 2010 - 12:02 am
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A question was posed to me: “How can a cop tell if someone might be an illegal alien?” To which I answered, “There are some no one could spot, and there are some just about anyone could spot.”

There are some, in fact, even a blind person could spot. If you were to come to Los Angeles and, indulging your adventurous streak, make your way to, say, the corner of Seventh and Alvarado Streets, a bustling crossroad at most hours of the day, you could stand on the sidewalk and swing a dead cat till your arms ached and have little worry of inconveniencing even a single American citizen. Not only that, but there is a fair chance you and your cat will have smacked at least one illegal immigrant engaged in the enterprise of selling drugs or counterfeit identification cards to the others.

Every cop who works that area knows these things. Every cop who has ever worked that area for the last thirty years knows these things.

And yet these conditions persist. But this is Los Angeles, California, after all, which politically speaking is a universe away from our neighboring state of Arizona. Here in California, our elected officials tolerate and even encourage such conditions as an incidental cost of maintaining our vibrant multicultural tapestry. But over there in Arizona, home of Barry Goldwater, don’t you know, the people have said, “Enough!” Or, perhaps more accurately, “¡Basta!

Other pursuits have prevented me from paying much attention to the news lately, but what I gather from some of the heated commentary on Arizona’s new immigration law is that police officers in that state have now been empowered to snatch up all of the following:

  • Anyone who speaks Spanish.
  • Anyone who speaks English but with a Spanish accent.
  • Anyone whose skin pigmentation is swarthy beyond a prescribed limit.
  • Anyone with an inordinate penchant for spicy food.

Anyone who, though not exhibiting any of the above characteristics, engenders even the slightest suspicion that he might be an illegal immigrant.

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  1. 1. turfmonster

    There are no shortages of scofflaws in our government, in our national media, and in our school systems. We ought deal with this problem and Arizona made a terrific start by signing into law the ban on ethic studies programs. I hope my state will do this soon and I’ll be writing my state representatives and senators to urge them to follow.

    We deserve better than to be mislead by these scofflaws and the sooner they are dealt with, the better.

  2. 2. Terry Gain

    A country without secure borders is not a country. America’s southern border is not porous. It is open. And the undocumented idiot running the country refers to illegal aliens as undocumented workers – as if they have every right to be here; they are just missing their papers. If this problem isn’t soon fixed Republicans will be a permanent minority as the road to Washington leads through amerexico.

  3. Ah yes, Cardinal Maloney. Of course, he also thinks it’s “fascist” to call the police when you find out one of your employees is raping children.

    And, of course, Maloney doesn’t have to worry about paying taxes. He doesn’t have to worry about paying rent. He’s utterly out of touch with the ways that the middle and working classes are being impacted by the self-righteous activism he enjoys. Unlike the people he is accusing, he doesn’t worry about going without health insurance because you can’t afford it — because you’re busy subsidizing illegal immigrants and others who largely piggyback into social services by not marrying or pretending they’re not married in order to maximize benefits.

    With, you know, our taxes.

    As a Catholic, I’m disgusted by the elitist hate-mongering by Maloney and others, all in the guise of “social justice.” They have no idea what it’s like to look at a monthly budget and try to figure out how to cover health care costs. They have far more security than the parishoners Maloney feels entitled to call Nazis.

    Real social justice is something quite different from sheltering sex criminals and encouraging lawbreaking, not to mention winkingly accommodating massive welfare fraud and also non-fraudulent demands that have bankrupted local and state governments. Real social justice doesn’t endanger police officers by fomenting hatred of them. It’s time for Maloney, and others, to hear that message from the people he is wrongly accusing of heinous moral crimes.

    For if the Church lets his comments stand, how precisely do the non-Nazis among us feel welcome in the pews?

  4. 4. M. Report

    I agree with everything you say :)

    However, comma, while the LEO/victim/Perp scenario is a problem,
    the Main Enemy is this:

    http://www.heritage.org/Research/Commentary/2007/06/Look-to-Milton-Open-borders-and-the-welfare-state

    “It’s just obvious you can’t have free immigration and a welfare state,”
    Milton Friedman

    Arizona can be proactive, effective, and mimimally inconvenient to citizens
    in addressing this problem, or it can wait until the economy goes (further)
    south, it has half a million permanently unemployed illegal aliens on its
    Welfare rolls, and the situation requires desperate measures, which no one
    wants to see used, least of all the Hispanic community.

  5. 5. johnt

    “When they call you a Nazi you’ve won the argument”. Well we must be winning a lot of arguments.

  6. 6. Gary Ogletree

    Oye! Los Mojados de Arizona! Los todos se queren son libre en San Francisco! Nos vamos!

  7. 7. baal

    If you pull up to the side of home depot in a pickup and ten guys jump into the back yelling, “Trabajo! Si Senor?”

    There’s a good chance that they are illegal immigrants….

    This doesn’t make them bad people, but it does likely mean that they are illegal immigrants, and just because they are every bit as likely to be good people as white, english speaking American citizens does not change that fact of the negative consequences they cause our country.

    It also does not make you a racist for understanding that by granting them citizenship we are effectively giving our country away other people.

    This is your country, not theirs.

    • FREE

      The answer is to drive to the cop shop when they jump in your truck.

      • iconoclast

        In places like Seattle or San Francisco, such an action will probably get you arrested for something like unlawful detainment if not actual kidnapping. Sanctuary cities…doncha know?

  8. 8. Commisar Larsky

    POSTED EARLIER AT REAL CLEAR POLITICS, BUT FITS HERE AS WELL:

    Several years ago I worked on an archaeological project in El Salvador. A young man named Juan worked with us. He always walked like he had just come out of a knock down drag out fight. It was worse than that though.

    Actually a few years prior to that time he had attempted to make it to the US through Mexico. Unfortunately he was caught shortly after crossing the Mexican border.

    He was held in a prison where he was regularly beaten into unconsciousness by the guards. A message was sent south to El Salvador to his family with a demand for ransom. His large, but very poor family, managed to pull together the ransom money and he came back home, literally a broken man.

    This is how the Mexcians deal with illegal undocumented immigrants.

    Please someone, name the other country in the world with a wide open border that takes in illegals, calls them undocumented immigrants and provides them with medical attention, education, drivers licenses and probably food stamps? Anyone? Please? Anyone?

    The Israeli wall halting the inflow of Palestinian bombers was mocked as racist and besides experts told them it wouldn’t work. It works.

    Let’s put up the wall, electrify the razor wire on top and establish a sensible policy for legal immigration and a process for integrating those illegals that are here over a 15 year time frame.

    Hey and while we are at it how about sending the 15,000 undocumented convicts in the California Penal System south and save a buck for Dear Leader O.

    • Willw

      ‘Please someone, name the other country in the world with a wide open border that takes in illegals, calls them undocumented immigrants and provides them with medical attention, education, drivers licenses and probably food stamps? Anyone? Please? Anyone?’

      A: Australia.

      • Pragmatist

        B. The United Kingdom of Britain and Northern Ireland

        C. The rest of Eurabia

      • Nope

        Your answer A simply isn’t true. It wouldn’t even be anologous if it were true. Nobody is walking across the border to Australia.

  9. 9. baal

    While I’m here, I’ll go ahead and say it. The violence along the border (90% at least) is a result of the turf wars between the mexican cartels. The reason that they even exist is because of our drug laws.

    Our drug laws are a cancer that is killing us, a cure for a sickness that is killing the patient.

    But, that still doesn’t justify our illegal immigration problem.

    • KevinB

      Isn’t it rather that your drug addiction is the cancer?

      • “Isn’t it rather that your drug addiction is the cancer?”

        Yes, but making common natural substances illegal only makes the problem worse. It is silly: kids get high from green mulberries, frog licking, nutmeg, aerosol sprays, mushrooms, various plants other than the arbitrarily banned ones, you name it. A personal friend of mine blew her brains out with nutmeg. Why isn’t nutmeg a controlled substance? Why aren’t the police chopping down the mulberry trees that line our street? Why can’t our local police department manage to eradicate the marijuana that grows in their own front lawn as a weed? (But will use its presence in someone else’s lawn as an excuse for forfeiture.) Why are coca leaves illegal, when coca tea is healthy and non-addicting? Sure, the purified cocaine is nasty, but why ban the legitimate uses also? A few college kids manage to overdose on caffeine every year (fatal dose 10g, only doable with pills containing refined caffeine). Why are these still legal?

        My common sense solution would be to make only “lab” drugs, refined cocaine, refined heroine, crystal meth, LSD, etc, controlled (as with any dangerous prescription medication). If it grows by itself, making it illegal is counter productive. (Even if idiots manage to kill or brain damage themselves by deliberately ingesting it.)

        • KevinB

          I think that your definition of arbitrary is probably different than that which is more appropriate when discussing the drug laws of a society. The reason some things are illegal and some other things, though potentially harmful, are not is about statistics. Instead of believing that society’s rules are just “arbitrary” it would serve you better to find that logical vein that holds it together, otherwise you drift into anarchy.

          • MarkTheGreat

            This nations drug laws are completely arbitrary. Read up on the early history of them if don’t believe me.

      • MarkTheGreat

        Alcohol is more addictive than many illegal drugs.
        When was the last time alcohol gangs fought turf wars?

        Answer. During prohibition

  10. 10. jd

    ” But right now there is some poor, unsuspecting cop in Tucson or Phoenix or some smaller town who will one day be out on patrol under a blazing desert sun, and when it is he who arrests that doe-eyed victim, it won’t take more than a day or two before everyone in America knows his name.”

    Now for the other side of the story;

    ” But right now there is some poor, unsuspecting cop in Tucson or Phoenix or some smaller town who will one day be out on patrol under a blazing desert sun, who will be gunned down by that doe-eyed illegal alien sporting an AK47, and the lame stream media will do their level best to make sure everyone forgets him as soon as possible.

    • sally

      Ha..they will do their best to find a way to blame the cop.

    • AZsmitty, Arizona

      Your second senario already occured just outside of Casa Grande,(between Phoenix and Tucson) two weeks ago, Officer stopped a vehicle turned out to be carrying drugs, the officer was shot with an AK47, thankfully he survived. The subsequent hunt in the desert may not have apprehended the actural perpitrators of the shooting, but it did interceopt several drug carriers and a group of illegals being shepherded by a coyote. Bet you haven’t seen that on the MSM!

  11. 11. Phoenix48

    Thanks Jack Dunphy for an excellent post. Let me add a few notes from here on the ground in Phoenix.

    It seems like ages ago but it was only little more than a month that we had a very contentious racial issue arise between a phoenix police officer and a black phoenix councilman (who was also a former officer). It took place when a friend of the councilman’s home burnt down. For some silly reason the councilman was trying to get access to the burning home – and not to save a person or a pet.

    This officers ‘crime’ was very much a’ ‘la the Gates affair; verbal confrontation escalated to physical pushing – with the councilman ending up not only pinned on the ground but – in cuffs – and eventually booked.

    This officer – starting with Mayor Gordon – was viciously tried and convicted by the self-appointed black preachers/Tavis Smiley set in typical Kabuki Media circus fashion. Very nasty, very public.

    The good news is that once the media storm settled down the officer, following a brief suspension, was back on the job. There was little commentary, and of course no appology, from those black clergy and fellow council members who went off in their hysteria – nor the media types who facilitated it.

    I share Mr Dunphy’s concern that this may end badly with such a kabuki dance.
    But we had a similar storm after passing the Employer Sanctions law here – even if it wasn’t nearly as dramatic on a national scale. After the initial reaction – the legislature defanged the law so as to make it almost entirely symbolic – stripping county Attorny Andrew Thomas of prosecutorial authority.

    How many people outside of the state knew as much? Few if any since the press never bothered to report it.

    To date – there has been 2 employers who’ve faced the full brunt of the law from my recollection. Yet – it’s signifigant that most employers felt compelled to try and comply. A big part of that was using E-varify – despite it’s flaws (particularly not distinguishing those that use fake/stolen SSN).

    Should this law make it through the first round of court challenges, which from my view is much in doubt, (if for no other reason than it will rapidly come before the 9th circuit – hardly a court that’s coy about issuing a horrendous verdict in a controversial case), Arizona’s police forces will face the difficult task of enforcment in a bubble.

    I believe they are every bit up to the task, no matter how unfair the assignment. Like with officer Brian Authement in March, eventually the whole story does finds its way out for the public to decide, even the ugly displays.

    The rumor of Arizona’s racism has been greatly exaggerated at this early point. Much like the myth of Latino solidarity on the immigration issue. So Shakira sold a few CD’s and Telemundo got a ratings boost – and of course Mayor Gordon made a knucklehead of himself yet again.

    The real mustard is gonna get cut in the ‘november sweeps’ if you will.

  12. Contrary to most adverse commentary, the new law does not permit random stops of people who look “foreign.” It requires that the stop have some additional predicate, such as speeding, reckless driving, drunk driving, selling drugs, etc. Even then, it does not allow the isolated consideration of race, color or national origin.

    The text of part one of the new law is provided here That link has links to the remaining parts of the statute. Section 11-1051 provides:

    For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of this state or a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person, except if the determination may hinder or obstruct an investigation. . . . A law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state may not solely consider race, color or national origin in implementing the requirements of this subsection except to the extent permitted by the United States or Arizona Constitution.(emphasis added)

    The Arizona House has approved several clarifying changes. These include:

    The phrase “lawful contact” would be changed to “lawful stop, detention or arrest” to clarify that an officer would not need to question a crime victim or witness about their legal status.

    And: The word “solely” would be eliminated from the sentence “A law enforcement official or agency … may not solely consider race, color or national origin” in establishing reasonable suspicion that someone is in the country illegally.

    This is another of those instances where people get all excited about what they read in the newspapers about a new law or court decision, but don’t bother to read the statute or decision.

  13. 13. Delia

    The Irish guy should be winning this boxing match! C’mon people! UP THE POSTS for Dunphy!

    Great post, Jack!!!

  14. 14. Adrian

    “When they call you a Nazi, you’ve won the immigration argument.” Just like when they call you a Nazi, you’ve won the health care argument.

    Did you hear that? I think that was the sound of the playing field being leveled…

  15. 15. LeighB

    “When they call you a Nazi…”. I just want to get this straight, if I’m in favor of a closed Southern border, does that make me a racist Nazi or a Nazi racist? I can’t keep it straight. And if I favor a closed Northern border, does that make me an anti-hockey racist or a Nazi-eh?

    Perhaps a bit off topic…so does anyone else think the WH is really angry with AZ about having to show some documentation to be on the ballot in 2012? Will Sotero produce it, fight the requirement or not run?

    • azcIII

      Unfortunately, our legislature dropped that bill. They had other issues to deal with and were at the end of the session. I think it’s a good idea and would prevent any further incidents of “Birther” controversy. Maybe next session.

  16. 16. Delia

    15. LeighB

    Perhaps a bit off topic…so does anyone else think the WH is really angry with AZ about having to show some documentation to be on the ballot in 2012? Will Sotero produce it, fight the requirement or not run?

    Hell yes! I’m sure Barry has his ‘manties’ (man-panties) in a bunch over their ‘audacity’ to require him to prove HIS eligibility to be POTUS.

    Thank the good Lord for the INTERNET! Sorry, Barry, you can’t put the genie back in the bottle (China has tried and those brazilliant Chinese people have skirted around it for a long-ass time hahahahaha)!

  17. 17. KevinB

    All I know is if I was a Mexican legal immigrant I’d be pretty annoyed.

    Maybe, those who’ve immigrated legally from Mexico (or a lot of them) are throwing the blind eye on the obvious hypocrisy and hyperbole in the media, as they are typically people who come here with wealth and skills anyway. In other words, they aren’t competing for any work that illegals do, and they probably take advantage themselves of the super everyday low prices that illegals bring.

    I don’t know, it’s just I wonder where are the outcries from the legal immigrants? Or is it that there are just so few, and that these outpourings of rallies, of people of obvious Mexican descent, are ALL linked to or bound-to-support illegal immigration in some monetary or familial way? I smell a fault. Shouldn’t we suppose legal immigrants have some due loyalty to America and it’s principles rather than their racial cohesion? In my opinion, they corrupt their heritage by supporting illegals. They become a heritage of looseness, rebellion, and ignorance.

    It is most likely that there is no argument you can make to people who are one generation from illegal immigration, or who rely on such cheap labor. It is good that Arizona has finally done something before the critical mass was too great.

    Two proverbs:

    Do not show partiality to the poor, but do justice to all.

    Do not hate a man that steals to feed his family, but if he is caught he shall repay seven fold.

  18. 18. Phranc

    My girl is a recently nationalized Irish immigrant. I feel for the person who dares call her a nazi to her face about supporting the rule of law.

  19. 19. Poor Citizen

    ok, let me get this straight, you hate taxes, hate OBAMA, hate the democrats, and hate anyone that tells you that the government is the solution, ok no more government, I wrote that down.

    Ok

    So Now, you hate… all those things ….except…. You want the government to stop immigration, and control the borders, takeover the immigration, and do something. Wo… I think this is this turning into the “sometimes socialist” independance room?

    sheesh

    • Phranc

      Your post is filled with logical and argumentative fallacies.

      • K.T.

        Not in the convoluted logic of the progressive mind.

        Michael Savage has it right, “Liberalism (Progressivism) is a mental disease”.

    • Pragmatist

      No Poor Moonbat we want the Government to ENFORCE the Laws it passes not demonize States who have to do THEIR job for them. Got it????????????

      • black aand white

        While you have your pen out, write this down-

        1. Disagreeing with people is not “hating,” no matter how many times your sun god, olberman, tells you that it is. None of these posts, nor anyone on the right, is calling for “no more government.”

        2. We ARE calling for government to stick to its basic responsibilities instead of what he have now, which is quickly becoming control of every aspect of our lives.

        3. Nobody says “sheesh” anymore.

    • gnubi

      Read the Constitution. The federal government’s most important responsibility is national defense. Closely related is federal responsibility to control borders, define legal immigration, and set penalties for failure to observe the law. If there are penalties, there is a need for enforcement. Pragmatist explained that part.

      The feds should concentrate on doing THAT properly. The federal government repeatedly demonstrates its incompetence or unwillingness to solve most other problems, and instead of addressing those coming tsunamis, they’re telling us what kind of light bulbs or toilets we can have.

      The city’s burning and Obama and the democrats have dropped the fiddle in favor of a flamethrower. We’ve seen enough and will fix it in November.

    • Old Soldier

      You almost had it! I hate excessive taxes, I hate the way Obama wastes my money – I really hate the way he wastes my kids’ money!

      I also hate my tax money being spent on people here illegally, I the crime and poverty they bring with them from their failed country. A little honesty is much needed in our relationship with Mexico. We won’t get it from this administration – and we didn’t from the last either.

    • MarkTheGreat

      Why do you insist on embarrasing yourself in this way?

      Nobody is claiming that there is no role for govt.
      Controlling borders is one of the few, legitimate roles of the govt.
      The other things you list, are not.

      If you stopped to think, for even a minute, you would be able to figure out the difference for yourself.

  20. 20. Bill Gannon

    Even now, mere days after AZ soiled his punchbowl, President UnBush is said to have “taken immigration off the table” until after the November elections. Oh, yeah. We can rely on that, alright.

    If Ruben Navarrette Jr. were an astute Hispanic he would speak openly of both the probable benefits and potential pitfalls he sees in the new law. Instead, he speaks only of the negative. As I wrote at #50 on his site:

    “I can accept the author is a reasonably honest man and means well, but he is blind, blind, blind to his own variety of “profiling” even while criticizing what he perceives to be the profiling of others. To believe “profiling” in and of itself is somehow wrong is to refute both the scientific method and results from at least 3000 years of human experience. Unreasonable or incompetent profiling, on the other hand, is something we all can rue. In Arizona’s new law I see nothing of which to be wary. If or when unreasonable profiling occurs it should be dealt with. To not do anything because there might be unreasonable profiling is silly – especially when espoused by grownups. That pov reeks of “paternalism”, is is unworthy on honest citizens.”

    AZ will not be the last state to enact such a law, and that impetus will finally force the feds to pretend to do something. At least for us November holds out hope.

  21. 21. Lorita

    As one who was just a few days ago accused of being a KKK member for my comments at another website defending upholding Federal Immigration law, I am now going to say something that I have observed and studied. First of all, if the 9th Circuit Court gets ahold of a case involving the AZ amplification of upholding the Fed Immigration law, you can bet it will be a crazy media circus. Because the 9th Circuit is the court where law is turned upsidedown to make sure every fascist group, every whiney ‘minority’ group is given rights that actually circumvent regular laws. This is the court that is chuck full of legally challenged ACLU people, etc. I say legally challenged the way people say mentally challenged. If Obama picks some judge from 9th Circuit for the Supreme Court, I think it could be a fatal mistake. He already screwed up appointing Sutomayeir. I already detected that look of hate for regular Americans in her eyes. Both her and Obama have complete disregard for legal, regular Americans. If an immigration law case comes before the Supreme Court, she will be discovered for what her agenda actually is. I am basing all this on life I have lived during many years in various SW states in mainly Hispanic areas. Or rather, places that became very Hispanic. As one who has been a victim of reverse discrimination many a time for a wide variety of reasons and been through the show your ID bit to the Border Patrol on several occssions (which I usually found rather hilarious because they always say, “we know your legal”), there’s been way too many discriminatory acts in my life to list here. My point is that I am a pretty good judge of character and what people are up to. And I wouldn’t trust Sotomeyeir any farther than I can throw a cadillac. I truly hope the Fed Law on immigration can be upheld and I really hope there is no amnesty because I think that would really be the straw that kicks off well… a civil war. I think most people are more than fed up with loosing jobs to illegals or legals of cheap labor potential. The list goes on. And another thing. It wasn’t just the rancher who was killed. There’s been judges in small towns in AZ and NM who were murdered. There’s been ranchers killed in border towns for decades but the media hasn’t said hardly a thing about it. There’s been deprevations along the border since AZ and NM were territories. I’ve read old historical documents where townsfolk in the olden days pled with the Federal Government for help defending the border, so this isn’t a new thing we’re facing today.
    And as regards any of these Catholic religious personnel who complain about enforcing Fed law, they want to get the heat off them for the sex crimes abuse cases. Don’t be fooled. I don’t see what the problem is wanting to have a good life for your kids and grandkids when you are an American citizen without all the bs of parasites milking the economy of a nation dry. When I hear these womb machines saying they will birth the anglos out of existence, it makes me mad as hell. Don’t they know they are only hurting themselves as well? If you don’t have any sensible people around to help you think logically, what’s the use in that? If these people are so upset at upholding the Fed law, why don’t they take their whine to Mexico and fix it? And why are we giving so damn much money to Mexico when we are doing so much to support the people of Mexico as it is right here in the US?

  22. 22. Eva

    ‘And I bet he won’t be invited for a beer at the White House’
    Probably not, but would the cop even want to?

    Latinos are outraged at the way they may be harrassed or profiled but frankly I am outraged by their own behaviour in regards to illegals. Here where I live a latina (a legal citizen) was supposed to be helping those who couldn’t afford health care apply for financial assistance. They still had to pay a portion for their health care which most did pay. But this woman, who was supposed to be helping the poorest of this community pocketed the money instead of turning it over to the hospital. Guess who were the majority of folks she took that money from? Thats right, latinos, legal and illegal. But mostly illegal. I guess she thought she was stealing from the hospital but since she didn’t give all of them receipts, many patients can’t prove that they paid anything and are still on the hook for the bill. That isnt the only example. The Mexican owner of a local restaruant refused to pay for medical treatement of one of his illegal employees who had gotten hurt at work. I suspect such scenes play out more often than we realize so if legal citizens feel they are going be caught up in this, it is their own fault.

    • MarkTheGreat

      These days, it seems like every time any minority is stopped by the cops, the first thing they start screaming is profiling. It’s like the charge of being racist. It’s used so often that I stop listening as soon as I hear someone use it.

      • Eva

        Oh, yeah. Interestingly this woman is blaming everyone else for what she did but the race card is the one thing she hasn’t pulled.

  23. 23. paparay

    Thanks Jack for a good post supporting the new AZ anti-”illegal” immigration law. As a second generation American of Mexican descent, I grew up as an Army brat. Everywhere I traveled, I was an American. Only when I moved to California did I learn terms like Mexican-American, Chicano, Hispanic, Latino, etc. By then the die was cast and I was, am, and always will be plainly and proudly “American.” God bless America and those who do for themselves instead of being parasites on others.

    Those protesting are so proud of their “Mexican” heritage, they deflect arguments telling them to go home if you love it so much. They argue that the Southwest is part of Mexico. Sour grapes. Once upon a time. Used to be. Get over it. Truth is Mexico is a failed state. Rather than go home and fix their own country, they think they can come here, re-conquer this one, and reap the rewards. What they don’t understand is with the attitudes they have, like those of our Dear Leader Barry, they will only be successful in driving this country into the ground and then everything will be like the failed state of Mexico. They just don’t get it.

    • Eva

      They always seem to forget that the Southwest ‘belonged’ to someone else before them. Even if this area is the place they call Aztlán, they abandoned it. Aztlán is a myth anyway. There is little evidence to identify it. Might as well be Atlantis.

  24. 24. Tyler520

    This article brings up many great points completely disregarded by AZ Bill 1070 critics, who have apparently not read the bill – if they had, and remain critics, they are simply stupid or liars.

    The bill does not permit officers to stop anyone without cause, e.g. running a red light, a traffic accident, robbery, etc. EVERYONE is asked for identification in such an event; citizens are expected to have such ID. It is already federally mandated that all immigrants cary their paperwork with them. The federal government claims jursidiction over immigration issues, however the Constitution does not mention anything regarding the matter. Thusly, authority falls to the states. Any attempt by the federal government to overthrow states’ rights is tyrannical, and would be a direct violation of the Constitution.

  25. 25. Bobby

    It is incredible the speed at which Americans are losing control of their nation, to foreign nationals, that have no business being here, were never given permission by the actual populace of America to be here, and DON’T REALLY CARE WHAT AMERICANS THINK. I could say so many things about this, but what would be the point. It’s obvious that to many Americans, it’s all just fun and games, and to others, well, see no evil, hear no evil, speak….. , sacred little sheep. We owe Mexico NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, RATHER MEXICO OWE THIS NATIONS CITIZENS BILLIONS.

  26. 26. Mack

    The Jews persecuted by the Nazi party were German Citizens. The difference were the Nazi’s blamed a group of their own Citizens and committed “atrocities” against their own Citizens to take power; the United States is being invaded by ILLEGALS from outside of our Nation and our Elitist Politicians refuse to Secure our National Borders and Enforce our Immigration Laws to protect United States Citizens!

    The States can not wait for the Federal Government to take ACTION, the struggle against the invasion by the ILLEGALS will have to be fought at the State and Local level if and until the Federal Government decides to Secure our Borders and Enforce our Immigration Laws!

  27. 27. Mike

    WHAT YOU CAN DO TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. YOU can make a difference! START HERE: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageNavigator/action/

  28. 28. Kell

    Calling the children and grandchildren of the soldiers who fought the Nazis in WWII is an insult beyond insult especially knowing that many of these “marchers” are from countries that took in many Nazi war criminals. There are a few of these veterans still living and I wonder what they must think when they see swatiskas paraded on American streets by illegal aliens. Luckily, my father and uncles who fought in Germany, are not alive to see this disgrace, but the largest generation of their children, the Baby Boomers are.

  29. 29. Diane

    The Dishonest Debate about Arizona and Amnesty
    (Great Read)

    http://web.mac.com/waltermoore/WalterMooreSays.com/Blog/Entries/2010/5/2_The_Dishonest_Debate_About_Arizona_And_Amnesty.html

    Have you noticed how completely dishonest the people attacking Arizona’s new law are?

    For example, they try to play the “Nazi” card by claiming Arizona’s laws would require people to “show their papers.”

    In fact, federal law already requires aliens over the age of 18 to carry “papers” showing they are in the country legally. Section 1304(e) of Title 8 of the United States Code already makes it a crime to fail to do so:

    (e)Personal possession of registration or receipt card; penalties

    Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section. Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.

    Under federal law, moreover, an alien’s failure to produce his registration certificate already gives an law enforcement officer probable cause to arrest him. Don’t take my word for it: read the decision issued in 2006 by the United States District Court, entitled United States v. Cuevas-Robledos (Case No. 05-CR-248-BR).

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