When It Comes to Nukes, Iran Is No North Korea
In a surprise move, the North Koreans gave the U.S. president what some believe is his second major achievement in his administration’s campaign against the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
After having convinced Libya to dismantle its nuclear weapons program in 2003, North Korea, after many years of negotiations, has now also decided to come clean about its nuclear program. Under a new deal, Pyongyang will now declare its plutonium-based materials and facilities, something which it has hidden for many years.
To demonstrate their goodwill, the North Korean authorities, publicly and dramatically blew up the cooling tower of their nuclear facility in Yungbyon. This was to show that the site which many have suspected of producing weapons-grade plutonium, will no longer be active, as per Pyongyang’s promise. In return, the U.S. will remove the country from its Trading with the Enemy Act and State Sponsors of Terrorism list in the next forty-five days.
Despite the achievement, the recent deal has its critics. According to some experts, the North Koreans have not declared their secret uranium enrichment facilities. They have also not divulged details about their previous proliferation activities in places such as Syria. These criticisms have some justification. But overall, the deal can be considered a success: the international community, using diplomacy, has managed to freeze an important part of North Korea’s nuclear program. This is something which many thought impossible.
So far, the Bush administration has repeatedly failed to curb Iran’s nuclear program. In light of recent events, the unavoidable question leaps to mind: Can the same methods applied to the North Korean model be used in dealing with Iran’s?
Currently, the answer is no.
Why?
First and foremost, the stance taken by the international community against North Korea was far more united than the one currently being taken against Iran. The North Koreans were told from the beginning that only one group of countries will negotiate with them: no on else. Dubbed the “six party talks,” the countries involved were China, U.S., Russia, Japan, and South Korea.






The US should be very happy with its achievement. It goes to show, military doesn’t work anymore.
The major factor in the six-party talks is China. They share a border with North Korea, and view it as part of their mountainous border protection. They can and will pressure Korea to avoid making public trouble, but they will not do anything that makes it look like that are yeilding to outside pressure. They only care about starvation because people are sneaking across the border to find jobs and food, and they only smack down Kim Jong Il when he gets outrageous, as when he received food shipments from them by train and refused to send the trains back, claiming that they were part of the ‘gift’.
“It goes to show, military doesn’t work anymore.”
This universal statement is not correct. It’s clearly working in some places, and needs to be used in others, such as Iran. North Korea has no oil. They need to make concessions in order for the rulers to stay in power and have even enough food to feed their own military. Iran has oil and trades actively with Russia, France, and others. Diplomacy will not work in that instance.
I agree with Mori. The Americans learned in Iraq that force doesnt work. They learned in North Korea that diplomacy is good. So duh? its obvious.
Well its nice to see the poorly educated out in force already(mori and sepehr). North Korea has already broken the deal… and like every deal before it will continue to break the deal until caught… and then given a new deal. We can all hope that this deal will hold… but being realistic and looking at history says it won’t… just like looking at history, diplomacy has rarely solved major problems just delayed them until fixed(or broken) in the future where force of some kind must be used.
When North Korea breaks this deal what will ppl like mori and sepehr say… how about what ppl like them always say lets make a new deal… If war happens these 2 like their cowardly lot will hide in their mom basement while men go out and die because they wanted to pretend that global politics is some kind of game show. Just remember your vaunted diplomacy was response able for millions dead during WW2 and a war which should have had less then a few hundred thousands death(if england/france invaded germany when they broken the peace treaty) instead cause global war and millions of lives lost across the global… hundreds of millions. People like mori and sepehr are as much to blame as hitler was for the death of the jews… they were happily using diplomacy to convince hitler what he was doing wrong… and that worked o so well.
It took the war in Iraq which disclosed the AQ Khan connection between N Korea and Pakistan for us to get serious about isolating North Korea. Like Reagan, Bush cut-off relation with N. Korea effectively starving the govt until now.
It has taken the very real threat of force coupled with hard nosed cowboy diplomacy that got us to this point with N Korea. Bill Clinton tried years of cowtowing direct diplomacy and got hosed.