When Is a War Not a War? When President Obama Says So
The expected showdown between the president and Congress over the War Powers Act took a strange and exotic turn on Wednesday when the administration claimed that it was not engaged in a war in Libya, and had not been involved in hostilities since April 7.
The State Department’s legal advisor, Harold Koh, claimed in an interview with the New York Times that “the limited nature of this particular mission is not the kind of ‘hostilities’ envisioned by the War Powers Resolution.”
Koh was careful not to anger Congress any further:
“We are not saying the president can take the country into war on his own,” Mr. Koh said. “We are not saying the War Powers Resolution is unconstitutional or should be scrapped, or that we can refuse to consult Congress.”
It may be too late. A bi-partisan group of House members led by Reps. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and Walter Jones (R-NC) has filed suit in federal court claiming the administration is in violation of the War Powers Act. Kucinich said: “With regard to the war in Libya, we believe that the law was violated. We have asked the courts to move to protect the American people from the results of these illegal policies”
Speaker John Boehner didn’t go that far, but still registered his disgust with the administration’s non-cooperation in explaining the U.S. mission in Libya by sending a letter to the White House on Tuesday calling on the president to “faithfully comply with the War Powers Resolution and the requests made by the House of Representatives, and that you will use your unique authority as our President to engage the American people regarding our mission in Libya.”
On June 4th, the House requested that the administration answer 21 questions in a resolution on Libya that sought clarification on the war, “including its goals and objectives, costs and justification for not seeking congressional authorization.” The measure included a deadline of 14 days for the president to respond.
In his Tuesday letter to the White House, Boehner told the president that he was out of time:
“Given the mission you have ordered to the U.S. Armed Forces with respect to Libya and the text of the War Powers Resolution, the House is left to conclude that you have made one of two determinations: either you have concluded the War Powers Resolution does not apply to the mission in Libya, or you have determined the War Powers Resolution is contrary to the Constitution,” Mr. Boehner wrote. “The House, and the American people whom we represent, deserve to know the determination you have made.”
Given the response of Mr. Koh, it would appear that the president does not believe that firing missiles from drones, manning a blockade line at sea, refueling NATO combat aircraft, and flying sorties that enforce the “no fly zone” in Libya can be defined as American forces engaging in “hostilities” — at least for the purpose of a work-around for the War Powers Act.
An April memo from DoJ’s Office of Legal Counsel determined that the War Powers Act did not apply to the Libya operation because the president had determined that the conflict’s nature, scope, and duration would be limited.
Regarding the spinning of “hostilities”, relative to the degree of commitment: A little bit of war is like being a little bit pregnant.”
What Obama seems to be making perfectly crystal clear is that he need not follow the constitution or U.S. laws if he is following the U.N. charter.
McCain-Kerry need early retirement or trial for treason unless they can positively identify the rebels. Congress needs to rewrite the war powers act and pull the purse strings. The progressives and independents need to loudly revalue their 2008 votes in hiring the peace activist president.
“.. the limited nature of this particular mission is not the kind of ‘hostilities’ envisioned by the War Powers Resolution.”
Note the false, twisted language and misdirection. The House has to grow a pair and stop funding this “particular mission” and the one in Yemen asap. If BHO wants to continue ‘kinetic’ actions in Libya or Yemen he needs to send one of his stooges to ask permission (and funding) from the House. Otherwise, begin the impeachment proceedings. Remember this is the no crisis should go to waste gang. How long before they manufacture a ‘crisis’ and declare martial law? This crowd is capable of great evil. The days leading up to November 6, 2012 are dangerous days indeed.
“They’re for sale if you want them. These aren’t the
‘droidshostilities you’re looking for…”Life imitates art.
Great, then if we are not “at war,” then Obama won’t mind if we cut all spending on this “non-war.” Let’s see NATO pull this off without ANY help from us. I need a good laugh. Let them try it. There is nothing worse than a total lie coming from the White House. You’d think after three years I’d be used to it by now. But I’m not. So, if this isn’t “hostilities,” then we shouldn’t be there at all. Let the Europeans do ALL of the dirty work for once in their pathetic lives.
Allow me to slip in a dissenting opinion here, under my good friend Liberty’s remarks. Is Yemen not a hotbed of AQ activity? Do Obama’s actions here not drive his former devotees on the far Left absolutely bonkers? Yes and yes.
I think there are far more important-and winnable- constitutional fights than removing Obama from the influence of La Pucelle de Tuzla’s manly art of geopolitical muscle flexing.
These are two completely different things. With regard to military actions in Yemen, as you point out our targets are AQ and enablers. If pressed, I believe the Obama administration could make a strong argument that these actions are in accordance with the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists (Pub.L. 107-40, 115 Stat. 224, enacted September 18, 2001), that grants the President authority to use all “necessary and appropriate force” against those whom he determined “planned, authorized, committed or aided” the September 11th attacks, or who harbored said persons or groups.
In Libya, however, there has been no explicit Congressional authorization. In fact, according to some analysts, our actions may actually be supporting AQ.
And there is a pretty strong argument to be made that the actions in Yemen are covered by the AUMF passed after 9/11.
Libya, on the other hand, is a very different matter. The Duck had been behaving himself vis-a-vis terrorism since we took down Saddam, at least.
Way to Go Mr. President! Now you’ve pulled a Clintonesque maneuver that didn’t go over well then (whatever the definition of is is), and won’t go over well now (That depends on what you call hostilities).
The upshot of this is that lawyers will get upset if our armed forces even throw a rock at another country, never mind launch fighter jets at some target.
You’re not taking care of the office, Mr. President. Thanks for wasting our time on yet another legal wrangling between the branches of government. Whether you win or lose, we’ll all be poorer for it.
The American people need to conduct a Limited War Impeachment against the president. Don’t worry Mr president we are not trying to get rid of you. It just feels like it, looks like it, and results in your removal from office. If ONLY.
Are you by chance recommending a “kinetic removal action?”
“In the end, the president — as all presidents before him — will win this fight.”
Mr. Moran nothing could be further from the truth.
No other President has “technically” said f**k the Constitution, f**k Congress and told the American people to get used to the fact that he won the election.
In other words Obama has told our entire nation to get f**ked and done the same thing to every last one of our allies.
That is what this fight is about, not the War Powers Resolution, pandering Congress or chasing down some goofy third world dictator that has made a fool of Obama in front of the world.
Don’t underestimate Speaker of the House Boehner and the rest of Congress this trip. Mr. Obama may get his arrogant clock cleaned shortly.
If not, let there be no doubt that the entire stinking mess of them, Obama, Boehner and Congress will suffer the rage of the voters come Election Day 2012.
The President will probably win the court fight, the precedents are on his side there.
Congress’s proper tools are censure (Pres. Polk was censured by the House over the Mexican-American War), cutting off funding, and impeachment. All it takes is the will and courage to use them.
I still remember well the promise: “Days, not weeks.” Now we’re well into months.
Barry “The Weasel” doesn’t make promises — he’s the practitioner of political magic arts – misdirection “by any means necessary”
“… sleight of hand depends on the use of psychology, timing, misdirection, and natural choreography in accomplishing a magical effect.
Misdirection is perhaps the most important component of the art of sleight of hand.
The magician choreographs his actions so that all spectators are likely to look where he or she wants them to.
More importantly, they do not look where the performer does not wish them to look.” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleight_of_hand)
On stage they’re called magicians, in politics they’re Weasels.
Barak Mounir Ubayad aka Barry Soetoro aka Barrak Hussein Obama must be Impeached and Imprisoned or sent back to Kenya.
We are a Nation of Laws not the playground for an impetuous, vile, lawless and fatherless child.
No, Mr. Boehner, Obama is not “technically in compliance”. He had no authorization to use force. There was no imminent threat to the US or to our interests. No imminent threat means he had no authority under the War Powers Act.
Boehner’s only options now are:
1) Pull the funding for the salaries and benefits of all the officers in the chain of command;
2) Pull the funding for the entire military;
3) Begin Impeachment proceedings.
These are all bad options, and Boehner knows it. He doesn’t have the votes, so he offers this face-saving “technically in compliance” as a way out.
Part of his problem is, there are guys in the House like McCain in the Senate, who have never met a war they did not embrace. They like to wrap themselves in the flag.
Maybe there is another way? Can we declare a “not-war”? They can declare war on Libya. Can they declare that we specifically do not have a war there, thus forbidding any further action there? Kinda murky.
“This government was designed for a moral people. It is wholly unsuited to any other.” – Ben Franklin
Boehner seems a decent guy, but he hasn’t the stones to take a stand anywhere. He is not sufficiently moral to counter Obama’s gross immorality.
They just need to start impeachment proceedings against Holder. It needs to be done anyway, and it will send a message about Libya while they are at it.
Mark, your suggestions are good but Boehner has little more than a deep tan and every ready tearfulness to bring to the table. He very much wants to be liked by the democrats while being paid for by the Republicans. He is in serious need of Politoviagra.
I’m very worried about him using our soldiers like this. This is costing $2 Million dollars a day, and why are we there? He gave them back the Lockerbie Bomber for heavens sake, and now he is using our soldiers for what purpose. IMPEACH HIM, HE’S A CRIMINAL. Why are they going to Federal Court with this? They are Congress, why do they need the courts? Cut off funding to it.
Running under the assumption that the War Powers Act is Constitutional – a fair assumption, since the Act was Holy Writ to Obama and his confreres when Bush was President – then the issue is very simple: Obama is committing an impeachable abuse of power.
Impeachment is not forthcoming for three reasons: 1) Republicans are afraid of charges of hypocrisy after their 10 year interventionist bender in the Middle East 2) Republicans don’t put much stock into the War Powers Act and they certainly don’t want to set a precedent with it 3) Republicans are afraid of political backfire; they have a growing chance to beat Obama at the polls next year, and impeaching Barack will rescue him and his agenda from that reckoning, plus the public’s response would be unpredictable at best.
That’s where we stand.
That’s a good overview of the political battlefield surrounding Libya. But the upshot of all that is that the constitution is a dead letter, at least in terms of restraining the executive when he wants to attack another country.
“Republicans are afraid of charges of hypocrisy after their 10 year interventionist bender in the Middle East…….”
Both Iraqi wars had congressional approval. The second Iraqi War, though it became more unpopular as time went on, had a more coalition members than the Libyan “kinetic action” war. Any accusations of “hypocrisy” can easily be countered.
Maybe you have, but I still have not been convinced that the two Iraqi wars were “bender(s)”. The first, was obviously popular, and right, not only because we won easily, but kept a precedent from forming, of invading neighbors to steal their wealth. The second war eliminated Saddam Hussein and kept the world free of a second Middle Eastern country from being nuclear armed. Make no mistake, Saddam would have been forced to counter Iran’s nuclear potential with his own, because of the enmity between them. Would anyone trust Hussein with nuclear weapons? Russia would have had two nuclear customers in the Middle East.
Nothing More Impeachable’ Than War Without Authorization, Says Constitutional Scholar
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/nothing-more-impeachable-president-who-t
This can’t be allowed to stand. He has crossed the line with this.
Obama and the democrats who apologize/cover for him (including the press) are all complete and utter hypocrites. He literally just said anything to get elected and the morons worshiped him for it without even vetting him. Well, Obama’s (and the lefts) chickens have come home to roost. Hope for change in 2012!
Impeach Obama. Someone must still have a copy of the constitution somewhere. Lets face it, Obama wanted to be President, not do the Presidential workload. In reality he wants to be King; a figurehead that all will bow to and kiss his ring.
As an aside. Did not the President have to seek Congressional Approval when the US went after the Barbary Pirates? Just sayin’.
According to my research, Jefferson got what was the effectively the first AUMF against the Pasha of Tripoli, despite the fact the he’d declared war on the US first (according to Barbary custom, by having the flagstaff in front of the U.S. Consulate cut down).
Thanks for that. I’ll exchange that help with the info for a brief lecture if you ever want to know about the Tin Pot Navy Scandal of Canada in 1911.
This is an obvious and clear violation of the Constitution. If Congress fails to impeach and remove the President, they are derelict in their duty and their authority is void.
It is so simple. Has anyone the courage to add 2 + 2 and make 4?
” 2) Pull the funding for the entire military;”
I could well be wrong, but I do believe the House can close tight the purse strings on specific expenditures such as the bomb Qaddafi to put in power we don’t know what worse monsters kinetic operation in Libya. If I’m wrong I would appreciate learning what statutes are involved.
Parker, they can pull whatever funding they want. Unless it’s a blanket defunding, President Suckweasel will just call it a “training exercise” or some other BS.
Of course, even if Boehner had the stones to impeach, as long as 1/3 +1 of the Senate won’t confirm impeachment it will be up to the military to either ignore the orders or remove the traitor by force.
It definitely needs investigating.
Putting the UN ahead of Congress is ridiculous and embarrassing.This is not a dictatorship.
Add to that the mission is for Libya and the rebels have known terrorists in their ranks.He chose to aid the enemy.
Plus we are already involved in war.The costs of these military actions alone are financial treason when considering the deficit.
Obama and the Libs cower in fear from muslims in the US but antagonize them in 4 middle east states?
The Court of Appeals affirmed the District Court’s decision, and pointed out quite forcefully to the lawmakers that they had other options available to them more appropriate than getting the Judicial Branch involved.
Because it is none of the courts business when the President violates the Constitution? Really, what’s the thinking here? The courts showed no such reluctance to stick their noses into Gitmo.
The Qataris have struck a deal with the Libyan rebels on oil. Soros has struck a deal with with the Qataris who themselves are his partners in Agro ( ticker AGRO ). Rather than sell agricultural products ( grains, rice, oilseed, dairy products, sugar, ethanol, coffee, cotton and cattle meat ) for paper currency why not sell them for another commodity? How about oil? And guess what occupant of the Oval Office will get his cut?
How dare anyone question King Barry, leave the man god alone, he needs a rest.
There appears to be a growing sentiment for Obama’s impeachment. Those who are throwing around this idea should carefully look at the obstacles to its success, and the horrible potential consequences of its failure.
The concept of impeaching Obama is emotionally thrilling, but it is neither feasible nor desirable, and would likely result in a second presidential term for Obama. We are less than two years away from the next presidential election, where we can rid ourselves of the Obami curse, forever. Let’s not fly off the handle and ruin everything.
The Republican House could easily pass an impeachment resolution with a simple majority, but the impeachment trial takes place in the Senate, with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding, and requires a 2/3 majority vote of the Senate (67 Senators) to remove Obama from the White House. The opposing and probably loyal Democrats already have a majority to vote against it, so an impeachment would almost certainly fail.
Also, a presidential impeachment trial is a huge spectacle (recall the Clinton impeachment circus that went on for months and monopolized the news, TV and the top echelon of all three branches of our government), during which all other business of Congress is pre-empted, at a time when our economy desperately needs legislative attention. Choosing that tactic at this time would literally abandon our country’s economy to destruction, and could tip us into a disastrous depression.
And Obama would win anyway, then probably get re-elected riding the surge of sympathy — recall that Clinton came out far better off politically after his trial, compared to before it, when he was a faithless husband and a sexual predator. Now he’s an elder statesman and world hero!
Well put.
And thereafter the suckweasels and cowards win again leaving the constitution and legal system to further rot?
Dec, 1941
Japanese ambassador: Good morling Mr. FDR.
FDR: You lousy sons of Hirohito just bombed Pearl Harber and the Phillipines!
Japanese ambassador: Cool it, square chin – it is not war.
FDR: we have thousands dead, planes blown up, battleships sunk, this day will live in infamy and you dare say it is not war?
Japanese ambassador, doing his best Obama-like bow – so solly -no boots on ground – is not war, stupid!
This is a good point.
Good day,
So under the Obama definition the Six Day War was not a war? It was of limited duration and while it involved “kinetic actions” they really didn’t go any great distances.
I feel as if we are living in 1984 with this administration.
Obama expresses the genius of lawyers. His is a legal mind at its finest.
There really is nothing so stupid as an Obama supporter.
I have been informed over the years that a blockade is an act of war. This is either a war or a cowardly attack.
The War Powers Act is possibly unconstitutional, but that’s not the argument from the psuedo law professor President. As noted, Congress has one remedy, impeachment. They haven’t the stones to use it.
All else is impotent whining.
Look this president has been doing illegal acts sence he was elected. His “Executive Order” pen has been very active. It will turn out that he is not even a legal President which will make all of the laws that he has signed null and void, yet we let him keep on going without proper investigation. America now has a king, not a President so stop whinning and just bow down. He will be reelected in a landslide in 2012 because America is too busy watching TV and waiting for welfare checks to care about the future.
It’s not about America. This is GLOBAL JIHAD. Did the U.S. president illegally re-arrange the governments on the northern coast of Africa to promote the PHYSICAL destruction of Israel? The previous sunni-led governments were decent neighbors. Shiite bHusseino didn’t like that and is BFF with with FELLOW SHIITE AmedinaJIHAD setting up DEATH TO ISRAEL.
And, of course, destruction of the United States will (obviously) be ECONOMIC.
When exactly were democratic complaints about an imperial presidency ever based on principles?
“In contending that the limited American role did not oblige the administration to ask for authorization under the War Powers Resolution, the report asserted that “U.S. operations do not involve sustained fighting or active exchanges of fire with hostile forces, nor do they involve U.S. ground troops.”
If this is the criteria that the White House uses in order to decide whether Congress must approve, then it is entirely logical to assume that a first-strike nuclear missle attack with all of our forces can be ordered by the President without any prior or subsequent consultation with Congress (no sustained fighting – a one-time event, no exchange of fire – all one-sided, no troops on ground). WOW!
Actually the nuclear attack you describe could comply with the war powers act, since it could be over in less than 90 days, although any president such action would be wise to seek consent from congress first. I take your point though. Dropping bombs on somebody looks an awful lot like war to me. Limited war perhaps, since there are no ground troops, but still war. Obama is clearly in violation of the war powers act.
When is a multi-billion dollar boondoggle a stimulous? When Pres BO says it is.
When is 9+% unemployment keeping it under 8%? When Pres BO says so.
When is a faltering economy turned around? When Debbie Wasserman Schultz shills for Pres BO and says it is.
When will the American people wake up? Well, some of them stirred on Nov 2, 2010 (not the ones who re-elected Frank, Pelosi, Rangel, Watters & Weiner), but a sufficient number of them will be fully awake on Nov 6, 2012.
“We have acted in a manner consistent with the War Powers Resolution,” Carney said, adding that the report to Congress would include a legal analysis that would address questions raised by legislators.
If they have acted in a manner consistent with the War Powers Resolution, then there should be no problem in their asking for the passage of a resolution to make it official. If not, then continue as they are doing – illegally IMNSHO – and keep us in the battle.
This administration has absolutely no thought of actually doing their constitutional duties and the sooner we get rid of them, the better. I just hope the people of the country wake up to see how this POS president has diminished the nation and vote him out.
This is a very important question, and there’s not much room for hair-splitting, Clintonian or otherwise.
During regular times, if an American drops a bomb on a Libyan and kills him, it’s murder, and in most circumstances illegal.
During a war, if an American drops a bomb on a Libyan and kills him, then (given a few other conditions as well) it’s war, and perfectly legal.
The declaration of war isn’t a mere detail; it’s absolutely vital. There’s no decent way to weasel out of it by citing “police actions” or “kinetic actions” or petulant tantrums or whatever. If two countries are involved, it’s war, or it isn’t, and if it isn’t, you can’t shoot at each other. Period. If it was just blockade or similar traditional “acts of war” maybe one could get away with a bit of fudging, but dead bodies lying around is another matter.
This is serious. We’re not just talking huge government power grabs, national bankruptcy, or such trivia; this is a question of homicide, happening right now, today.
Did the U.S. president illegally re-arrange the governments on the northern coast of Africa to promote the PHYSICAL destruction of Israel? The previous sunni-led governments were decent neighbors. Shiite bHusseino didn’t like that and is BFF with with FELLOW SHIITE AmedinaJIHAD setting up DEATH TO ISRAEL.
Destruction of the United States will (obviously) be ECONOMIC.
As someone who knows the War Powers Act is Unconstitutional, I find it very entertaining watching the Democrats’ mental gymnastics.
If this is not a war America is waging in Libya as obama has declared, then they are not real bombs and missile we are using. That means the end of the day director obama can say good days work, see you all back on set in the morning. Obama can get away with just about anything because our politicians are afraid of a BLACK backlash while obama destroy`s America! You lose your freedom living in fear!
Well, it’s not a “War” “War”.
If it is not a real war, then tell all the dead they are really alive still, because this is not a real war with real bullets and missiles blowing up their homes and killing family members. Clausewitz if this is not a real war then I could blow your little head off and say sorry only a make believe head shot. Go back to the back of the cave you need a time out!
Thinking someone has a hard time with sarcasm.
It ain’t complicated. The Euros want Gaddafi gone (payback for Lockerbie flight PA 103), and we owe them (for help in Afghanistan), and so we had to help.
Obama is the most warmongering president we have ever had, he has gotten us deeper in debt, made the economy worse, got us into 3 wars which will never end, sold us out as a nation to a bunch of self-righteous fools, he has constantly joked at his failed attempts without realizing the error in that, he has tried to hijack the Arab Spring as just that, when it is in actuality an Islamic Revolution which supported (and still does) Usama ibn Ladin and jihad, which wants to expell Jews and Christians from the land, conquer spain, sudan, israel and islamize the world, and brutalize women, Jews, Christians, Homosexuals and dogs. All at the expense of the tax payer and the american people.
A Caliphate (Khilafah) is coming people, you’d better be ready to die… or submit.
What a lovely 4 years this has turned out to be.
“And if you disagree over anything, relay it to Allah and the Messenger…” (Qur’an 4:59)
Sources:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/muslim-brotherhood-leader-our-objective-is-to-establish-an-islamic-state.html
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/2922.htm
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/2918.htm
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Obama’s absurdity – it’s not war:
Scene: Dec, 1941
Japanese ambassador: Good morling Mr. FDR.
FDR: You lousy sons of Hirohito just bombed Pearl Harbor and the Philippines!
Japanese ambassador: Cool it, racist square chin – it is not war.
FDR: We have thousands dead, planes blown up, battleships sunk, this day will live in infamy and you dare say it is not war?
Japanese ambassador, doing his best Obama-like bow – so solly -no boots on ground – is not war, stupid!
Muʿammar al-Qaḏḏāfī
You may say Khadafy or Kadaffie and I may say Qadafi or Gadaffie but “Daffy” is definitely not an acceptable or applicable nickname for Muammar Muhammad al-Gaddafi, in Arabic مُعَمَّر القَذَّافِي Muʿammar al-Qaḏḏāfī, the Libyan despot, butcher of Libyans, mad dog of the Mideast, murderer of untold numbers of defenseless Americans and Europeans.
Mu, as I will refer to him since I refuse to pay him any respect by repetitively typing Muʿammar al-Qaḏḏāfī is or was anything but daffy. Treacherous, vile, and peculiar yes, but daffy, no; he is or was as wily as a snake, as calculating as Barack Obama. Those alternative present and past tense verbs are necessitated by the fact no one knows as of the time of this writing whether he is alive or if he has already been killed like Obama killed another Muslim terrorist, Usama bin laden.
The only certainty right now, should Mu be in the welcoming arms of Allah, is that Obama with the assistance of Seal Team Six didn’t get him and it’s improbable that he screamed the Islamic war cry, “Alahu akbar!” before Libyan rebels chopped him up for dog food.
Arabs don’t especially like dogs.
It’s doubtful, too, that Mu will get his 72–or 50 virgins in paradise, depending on who’s counting–after he passes to the Great Islamic Beyond because Allah generally reserves that select group of toothless hags for true Muslim heroes and Mu is/was anything but heroic. Killing Christians and other infidels is one thing to Allah. Killing his fellow Muslims which Mu did with a bloody vengeance is quite another in the Islamic playbook.
Whatever Mu’s ultimate fate, a safe bet is that America’s current president will attempt to claim at least a degree of . . .
(Read more at . . . http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=5262)