Comments on: What Do Women (Voters) Want? http://pjmedia.com/blog/what_do_women_voters_want/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:37:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Barbara G http://pjmedia.com/blog/what_do_women_voters_want/#comment-19577 Barbara G Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:07:59 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/what-do-women-voters-want/#comment-19577 I perceive a 'whigger' mentality emanating from the women's vote for Obama. Once they vote for Barack they won't go back. I perceive a ‘whigger’ mentality emanating from the women’s vote for Obama. Once they vote for Barack they won’t go back.

]]> By: SukieTawdry http://pjmedia.com/blog/what_do_women_voters_want/#comment-19576 SukieTawdry Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:02:10 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/what-do-women-voters-want/#comment-19576 Sure, like Hillary, I've been called "shrill and strident" from time to time. Usually when, like Hillary, I've <i>been</i> shrill and strident. What, we don't get to call Hillary on those moments because she's a girl? I don't know why not because I see a lot of style point criticism directed at the male candidates. Hillary is possibly at her most "shrill and strident" when she cackles in response to a question she doesn't like to either avoid answering it or to suggest that the question itself is laughable. She doesn't cackle in moments of genuine amusement. So, Hillary, maybe you should stop using fake laughter as an avoidance technique. It's shrill and strident. I don't care who the "sisterhood" is supporting in the primaries. If Clinton's the nominee, they'll line up behind her. And it won't have anything to do with any Hillary-bashing that's occurred along the way. It's ludicrous to suggest they'd do anything else. And, those of us outside the sisterhood, I hope, won't be swayed by such trivialities as whether or not Hillary Clinton's being picked on. Sure, like Hillary, I’ve been called “shrill and strident” from time to time. Usually when, like Hillary, I’ve been shrill and strident. What, we don’t get to call Hillary on those moments because she’s a girl? I don’t know why not because I see a lot of style point criticism directed at the male candidates. Hillary is possibly at her most “shrill and strident” when she cackles in response to a question she doesn’t like to either avoid answering it or to suggest that the question itself is laughable. She doesn’t cackle in moments of genuine amusement. So, Hillary, maybe you should stop using fake laughter as an avoidance technique. It’s shrill and strident.

I don’t care who the “sisterhood” is supporting in the primaries. If Clinton’s the nominee, they’ll line up behind her. And it won’t have anything to do with any Hillary-bashing that’s occurred along the way. It’s ludicrous to suggest they’d do anything else. And, those of us outside the sisterhood, I hope, won’t be swayed by such trivialities as whether or not Hillary Clinton’s being picked on.

]]> By: Grace Farmer http://pjmedia.com/blog/what_do_women_voters_want/#comment-19575 Grace Farmer Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:14:15 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/what-do-women-voters-want/#comment-19575 RE: As a female caught out of the country on 9-11. I KNOW I am still not safe and I sure as heck don't FEEL safe. I also know that a teary, snivelleing presidential wanna be sure will not have the guts or the cahones to make sure that I feel safe or know that I am safe. So what then? Live life and go on...leaving the emotion out of it. RE:

As a female caught out of the country on 9-11. I KNOW I am still not safe and I sure as heck don’t FEEL safe. I also know that a teary, snivelleing presidential wanna be sure will not have the guts or the cahones to make sure that I feel safe or know that I am safe.

So what then? Live life and go on…leaving the emotion out of it.

]]> By: RE http://pjmedia.com/blog/what_do_women_voters_want/#comment-19574 RE Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:33:35 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/what-do-women-voters-want/#comment-19574 I believe that a very large number of female voters want to <b>feel</b> rather than <b>know</b>, with the degree to which they do corresponding to where they fall on the liberal/conservative spectrum. For example, in <b>feeling</b> they are safe rather than <b>knowing</b> they are safe, they can avoid the ugly details of threat elimination , which quite often involves violence and other nasty stuff that contradicts their natural 'nurture' predisposition. Spiders and snakes are the universal exceptions to my theory, of course. I believe that a very large number of female voters want to feel rather than know, with the degree to which they do corresponding to where they fall on the liberal/conservative spectrum. For example, in feeling they are safe rather than knowing they are safe, they can avoid the ugly details of threat elimination , which quite often involves violence and other nasty stuff that contradicts their natural ‘nurture’ predisposition.

Spiders and snakes are the universal exceptions to my theory, of course.

]]> By: JM Hanes http://pjmedia.com/blog/what_do_women_voters_want/#comment-19573 JM Hanes Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:17:17 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/what-do-women-voters-want/#comment-19573 I look forward to the follow-up article on What Male Voters Want. I look forward to the follow-up article on What Male Voters Want.

]]> By: Peg C. http://pjmedia.com/blog/what_do_women_voters_want/#comment-19572 Peg C. Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:53:24 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/what-do-women-voters-want/#comment-19572 Feminism has painted women into a corner: can't be feminine, can't be masculine. I never felt so free as I did when I left both the lefty-feminist fascism and the Dem party. Women are reaping what they've sowed. I wouldn't vote for Hillary! if you put a gun to my head. Give me a Maggie Thatcher and I'm there. Most world leaders will continue to be men because Thatcher was an anomaly and leadership does not come naturally to women. I know enough female managers to know I'm right. To fall back on one's female weaknesses when the big boys come after you is just disgusting and pathetic. Don't you think our enemies are praying we elect a Dem and especially a female? (Not that Obama or the Breck Girl would be a threat to anyone either.) Feminism has painted women into a corner: can’t be feminine, can’t be masculine. I never felt so free as I did when I left both the lefty-feminist fascism and the Dem party.

Women are reaping what they’ve sowed. I wouldn’t vote for Hillary! if you put a gun to my head. Give me a Maggie Thatcher and I’m there. Most world leaders will continue to be men because Thatcher was an anomaly and leadership does not come naturally to women. I know enough female managers to know I’m right. To fall back on one’s female weaknesses when the big boys come after you is just disgusting and pathetic. Don’t you think our enemies are praying we elect a Dem and especially a female? (Not that Obama or the Breck Girl would be a threat to anyone either.)

]]> By: GawainsGhost http://pjmedia.com/blog/what_do_women_voters_want/#comment-19571 GawainsGhost Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:46:36 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/what-do-women-voters-want/#comment-19571 What do women want? I don't know and I don't care. What she wants, what she thinks, what she believes is of zero consequence to me. Because none of that has anything to do with what my responsibilities are as a man. It's not my job to be a knight. It's not my job to be a prince. It's not my job to solve her problems. It is my job to provide for myself and my family. My only concern is achieving financial security so that I can do that. She doesn't like it? I don't care. She can buy her own house. What do women want?

I don’t know and I don’t care.

What she wants, what she thinks, what she believes is of zero consequence to me. Because none of that has anything to do with what my responsibilities are as a man.

It’s not my job to be a knight. It’s not my job to be a prince. It’s not my job to solve her problems.

It is my job to provide for myself and my family. My only concern is achieving financial security so that I can do that.

She doesn’t like it? I don’t care. She can buy her own house.

]]> By: sharinlite http://pjmedia.com/blog/what_do_women_voters_want/#comment-19570 sharinlite Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:12:05 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/what-do-women-voters-want/#comment-19570 And that, is a damn shame. Fifty years from the bra burners taking over the Women's Movement and it is still O.K. to think about a woman as a "little girl"! Actually, Hillary is a female in wolf's clothing...she and most of her most ardent supporters do not know the meaning of the word "WOMAN"!! That is the message the women of this country had better understand sooner rather than later, otherwise, you are going to see an actual Queen Bee in the WH and it will not be fun for you, me or Bubba!! And that, is a damn shame. Fifty years from the bra burners taking over the Women’s Movement and it is still O.K. to think about a woman as a “little girl”! Actually, Hillary is a female in wolf’s clothing…she and most of her most ardent supporters do not know the meaning of the word “WOMAN”!! That is the message the women of this country had better understand sooner rather than later, otherwise, you are going to see an actual Queen Bee in the WH and it will not be fun for you, me or Bubba!!

]]> By: Bill from Rogers Park http://pjmedia.com/blog/what_do_women_voters_want/#comment-19569 Bill from Rogers Park Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:51:14 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/what-do-women-voters-want/#comment-19569 In matters like this, I prefer to simply observe my wife. She's a self-employed professional with a graduate degree; undergrad at a women's college; big-urban raised; and her career is in a near-social-worker milleu (gerontology). And yet, she so despises Clinton it takes my breath away. It has to do with lying. Maybe she's just simple-minded. I will add she has none too much truck with whiny victimists. She got what she got by working so hard she makes one tired watching. Maybe that might mean she didn't marry into a nepotist's throne. Meanwhile, as a Chicagoan who's watched Obama being groomed by the Daley machine for many years, I'll have to add that no matter how vapidly he speaks, there's less than meets the ears- he's a Daley Machine bot, and he has a mission. The antiquated 1972 politics is just a fog. His job is to keep the Boss out of prison, and to keep the pork coming. Bill In matters like this, I prefer to simply observe my wife.
She’s a self-employed professional with a graduate degree; undergrad at a women’s college; big-urban raised; and her career is in a near-social-worker milleu (gerontology).
And yet, she so despises Clinton it takes my breath away.
It has to do with lying.
Maybe she’s just simple-minded. I will add she has none too much truck with whiny victimists. She got what she got by working so hard she makes one tired watching. Maybe that might mean she didn’t marry into a nepotist’s throne.
Meanwhile, as a Chicagoan who’s watched Obama being groomed by the Daley machine for many years, I’ll have to add that no matter how vapidly he speaks, there’s less than meets the ears- he’s a Daley Machine bot, and he has a mission. The antiquated 1972 politics is just a fog. His job is to keep the Boss out of prison, and to keep the pork coming.
Bill

]]> By: Ralph Phelan http://pjmedia.com/blog/what_do_women_voters_want/#comment-19568 Ralph Phelan Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:48:12 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/what-do-women-voters-want/#comment-19568 "If you really want women to vote for Hillary, pick on her clothes and her tears. Call her strident. Call her bitchy. But if you take gender out of the equation, then women are going to weigh her other qualities on the same scale as the guys." The above does not sound to me like "the sisterhood sticking together no matter what," it sounds to me like "demanding equal treatment" and entirely reasonable. If the "sisterhood" sticks together when people call Clinton a corrupt nanny-state socialist with delusions of competence there's something wrong. But if the "sisterhood" sticks together when people go off on Clinton's clothes, looks, or demeanor that's a rational response to discourage unfair treatment of women for being women. “If you really want women to vote for Hillary, pick on her clothes and her tears. Call her strident. Call her bitchy. But if you take gender out of the equation, then women are going to weigh her other qualities on the same scale as the guys.”

The above does not sound to me like “the sisterhood sticking together no matter what,” it sounds to me like “demanding equal treatment” and entirely reasonable.

If the “sisterhood” sticks together when people call Clinton a corrupt nanny-state socialist with delusions of competence there’s something wrong.

But if the “sisterhood” sticks together when people go off on Clinton’s clothes, looks, or demeanor that’s a rational response to discourage unfair treatment of women for being women.

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