What the Frack? More Regs for Domestic Production
As President Obama continues to tout his commitment to an “all of the above” energy strategy, his departments are stealthily working to narrow the definition of “all.”
On April 13, Obama issued an executive order on “supporting safe and responsible development of unconventional domestic natural gas resources” — “unconventional” being the hydraulic fracturing, or “fracking,” that draws the natural resource from rocks.
“While natural gas production is carried out by private firms, and States are the primary regulators of onshore oil and gas activities, the Federal Government has an important role to play by regulating oil and gas activities on public and Indian trust lands, encouraging greater use of natural gas in transportation, supporting research and development aimed at improving the safety of natural gas development and transportation activities, and setting sensible, cost-effective public health and environmental standards to implement Federal law and augment State safeguards,” Obama said in the directive.
“To formalize and promote ongoing interagency coordination, this order establishes a high-level, interagency working group that will facilitate coordinated Administration policy efforts to support safe and responsible unconventional domestic natural gas development,” the order continued.
Some of those agencies have already begun dropping new regulations, trying to toe the line of moving toward the environmentalist base while purportedly supporting the method responsible for much of the domestic production increase lifted up by Obama in his speeches.
Days after the executive order, the Environmental Protection Agency issued regulations requiring frackers to install methane-capturing technology to limit emissions. Industry groups said the effects could be onerous, especially on independent oil and gas producers responsible for 95 percent of wells, as a 2015 deadline was imposed on the transition.
“By ensuring the capture of gases that were previously released to pollute our air and threaten our climate, these updated standards will not only protect our health but also lead to more product for fuel suppliers to bring to market,” EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson said.
Enviro groups were pleased, although they thought the compliance timeframe was too short.
Today, the Interior Department released a draft rule regarding chemicals used in hydraulic fracturing on public and Indian lands.
“As the president has made clear, this administration’s energy strategy is an all-out effort to boost American production of every available source of energy,” said Interior Secretary Ken Salazar. “As we continue to offer millions of acres of America’s public lands for oil and gas development, it is critical that the public have full confidence that the right safety and environmental protections are in place.”
“The new regulations released today will discourage future production of the abundant energy resources located on our public lands,” said Rep. Rod Bishop (R-Utah). ”I suppose the current administration and their special-interest group allies would consider that a ‘win’.”
“However, like many Americans, I do not,” the congressman added in his biting criticism of the latest move.
The Interior Department said the new rules are needed because the Bureau of Land Management’s fracking regulations are more than 30 years old.
Interior noted that in line with Obama’s executive order, “the proposed rule released today received important interagency feedback.”
Time that the energy industry – and industry in general – from the largest corporation to the lone wildcatter engage in civil disobedience.
Drill, dig, build, engage in commerce and create wealth and prosperity. The EPA and the government be damned. Considering that this is the modus operandi of this regime, turnabout is fair play.
You’re surprised the Obama-ayers regime would try to stop fracking? Hmmm. Maybe if the violators of His WonderfulMess’ Orders were all black it wouldn’t be so bad? Call Eric, the Red, Holder for guidance. Maybe I’m on to something here?
The government is sure to miss all that revenue they get from selling leases and from taxes on drilling companies, producers, trucking companies, refineries, drilling supply companies, heavy equipment manufacturers and the assorted other entities that spend money and create jobs in their daily business of producing oil and gas. Wonder how they’re planning to make it up? Buffett Rule? Hahahaha.
The government is sure to miss all that revenue…
Don’t be so sure about that. The gubmint — in other words the globo-socialist-environmentalist-racist-sexist-secularish cohort(or the G.S.E.R.S.S., I call ‘em Geezers for short) — rely on states of emergency to operate. The world environment is set to collapse cuz of man-caused global warming, government intervention (socialism) is necessary to avert financial disaster, there’s a war afoot on women and homosexuals, etc. And, yes, we use a lion’s share of global energy but possess only a small percentage of energy reserves.
EMERGENCY!!!
“Never waste a major emergency.”
- Rahm Emmanuel
“Never waste a major emergency.”
- Hillary Clinton
it looks like our poser kenyan forger is just playing the old bait and switch game, as everybody who understands him knew he would.
he is not going to do anything that doesn’t prosper his friend$. the public was outraged at stopping the pipeline, so he says one thing, then switches to another. same as with the gulf oil delays. most of his voter base has no idea what an evil presence this man represents. the rest know what he is, but that is who they are as well.
imho, if we do manage to dislodge him from power, it will be at great cost. these people want our country in ruins and will do anything to achieve that end.
Well, Orphan, the real point here is that the 0 Administration just doesn’t care about cost. They can and will print all the money they need. If they bankrupt the nation in the process, what’s your problem? [snark] After all, isn’t everything they do for the greater good and therefore excellent? [snark]
Gaia first, the UN second, keep 0 and the Dems in power first, second, and third, and then you bitter clingers get to pay for it. We are all equal so we can all live in poverty while 0 and the 1% enjoy life. They are, you know, building their own “nomenklatura.”
He’s got to go! Otherwise we are going to be the 58th state of the muslim brotherhood.
Let’s get behind Romney and show some enthusiasm for him, to show this imposter in office, the we really care about this country.
Where is kerry right now – meetin with muslim brotherhood.
And for the Jews who will vote for this anti semitic again, when he goes after Israel, don’t expect the rest of us to help. I will not send my children to rescue your relatives, when you vote to put him back in.
Quote from Rep. Rob Bishop: “the new regulations released today will discourage future production of the abundant energy resources located on our public lands.”
This guy needs to wake up and figure out what the economy in the rural West is really based on. It’s called OUTDOOR RECREATION of all forms: hiking, backpacking, climbing, skiing, ATVing, hunting, fishing, wildlife viewing, and so on.
Yes, we need energy production. Large swathes of the taxpayer & citizen-owned public lands have already been turned over to the energy industry. Thanks to the marvels of technology, there is now a glut of natural gas and the US became a net exporter of petroleum products last year for the first time in almost 50 years.
Another thing that Rep. Bishop doesn’t tell is that fracking, which I’m generally OK with, is highly water intensive. Due to low snow pack, and if we don’t get rain soon, Colorado’s Front Range is looking at possible water restrictions this year. Do we water our crops and lawns? Or do our water resources go for fracking? There has to be a balance.
You don’t know what you are talking about sir. Our West is not a damn playground for urban yuppies like you. Many of us work here producing natural resources and agricultural products necessary for the existence of this nation. “Fracking” is of little consequence to the water supply since little of it is used. The West contains enormous amounts of petroleum that must be used if we can control the ignorant enviros like you. Nations must use their natural resources–it is the ultimate source of all wealth.
Who do you work for SteveB? I am also from Colorado and I can’t figure out how you think fracking has had any impact on our water supply over the last TWENTY-FIVE YEARS that it has been used. There has never been ONE tiny earthquake and there has not been even ONE polluted water source because of fracking operations in Colorado. I go to the mountains frequently and ride ATVs all the time and I have never had my recreational opportunities limited by the oil industry anywhere that I have been. I have dealt with a dwindling number of places to ride, due to a prejudiced bunch of litigious enviro groups who think my ATV is somehow an embodiment of the devil. Salazar is in the hip pockets of these enviro groups and, if you actually live in Colorado, you should know that.
First of all, Richard, you may want to do some research on the economic value of outdoor recreation here in the West; specifically Colorado; before you start labeling people as “urban yuppies.” For Colorado: human powered recreation, $10 billion; off-highway vehicle recreation, $1 billion; hunting, fishing, wildlife viewing, $3 billion. This does not include the downhill ski industry. (sources: Outdoor Industry Assn.; Colorado Off Highway Vehicle Coalition; Division of Parks & Wildlife).
Richard: “the West contains enormous amounts of petroleum that must be used if we can control the ignorant enviros like you.” There you go again; name calling. And just where are these petroleum resources that you refer to; that are not presently being developed or at least researched?
Jim Baker: “who do you work for SteveB?” Answer: I work for myself as an outdoor education & recreation consultant.
“I can’t figure out how you think fracking has had any impact on our water supply……” Read Denver Post article dated November 23, 2011.
“I have dealt with a dwindling number of places to ride (ATVs) due to a prejudiced bunch of litigious enviro groups who think my ATV is somehow an embodiment of the devil.”
Jim: almost every unit of the US Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management in Colorado have gone through travel planning during the past 6-8 years; have a travel process underway now; or have planning activities upcoming. Have you taken advantage of opportunities given to citizens to provide input onto these decision processes? Or are you just content to complain on a web site?
And which law suits are you referring to? I’m aware of just one, filed because the agency did not follow its own rules.
One result of travel planning is that the agencies are moving to designated trail systems and eliminating open, cross country, travel. Most responsible ATV users that I know aren’t upset with the end of open travel.
ATV’s pollute too.
What do they pollute and how much do they pollute? Your farts pollute, too. And so does all the horse shit on the road. And the manufacture of your bicycle pollutes, too.
You don’t know any ATV owners, I say. I am still waiting to hear about the arrest of the ATV rider who, the BNSF claims, set the track fire last year near Raton pass.
“You don’t know any ATV owners, I say.” How many do you know? I’m a long time member of the statewide motorized recreation coalition. I get e-mail alerts and a periodic newsletter. Never saw anything about an ATV owner and a railroad right-of-way fire.
Do you own an ATV? You only belong to that organization because you need to know what they are “up to”. On the track fire, GOOGLE the words and you will find the article from June 19, 2011. No arrests have been made, so far. It looks to me like BNSF did its own investigation, blamed an unidentifiable ATV rider, and covered their own butts in doing so. This is why I am still waiting for an arrest and, until then, this kind of thing is nothing more than a typical gratuitous slander of ATV riders. I am one of those riders and you are obviously not one.
Back to the subject of this article. In the oil and gas industry, we did “fracking” for about twenty five years before the useless enviro movement ever thought of it as a legal weapon to destroy an industry. That industry has defied ALL of their prognostications and found a way to supply our country with clean, safe, and affordable energy for the next hundred or so years. In doing so they have removed the need for huge taxpayer subsidies of alternative energy sources that are both expensive and woefully inadequate. This is what rubs you enviro collectivists the wrong way. You are worried about the government’s hind tit drying out after the taxpayers finally decide to wean you. But, your overriding worry is about the government’s inability to take total control of the energy industry in our country while the Communist, Barack Obama, is in the White House.
“This guy needs to wake up and figure out what the economy in the rural West is really based on. It’s called OUTDOOR RECREATION…….”
Rubbish. In Colorado alone, agriculture, manufacturing and livestock farming each bring in more than “outdoor recreation”. Then there is the financial industry, vast federal government headquarters, etc. The Colorado economy produced $256B worth of goods and services in 2010. You seem to think that the “rural West” is some sort of vast playground.
As far as fracking, it should be up to the individual states to make the decisions, based on water consumption, where to drill, etc. Not the Feds. That way, residents like you would have a say.
4/5 of Colorado’s economy is services-based. 75% of agriculture is related to livestock.
Suggest reading this book: “Post Cowboy Economics: Pay & Prosperity in the New American West” by Thomas Michael Power Ph.D. Do you really think people move to Colorado to raise cows? No, it’s the natural amenities and recreation that draw people here for jobs.
Last year this guy was lobbying the BLM in Colorado and Wyoming. He wanted to prevent oil companies from leasing public lands for drilling. He was working for one of the dozens of litigious enviro groups we have in the Rocky Mountain area. The goal of most of them is to destroy the domestic oil and gas “fossil fuel” industry as they call it. He has a political agenda. He has no interest in the well being of the recreational industry in Colorado.
Colorado’s been and continues to be, ‘Californicated’ for 20 + years now.
The overwhelming majority of these transplants move to the Metro areas and RARELY go to the environmental recreation you speak of.
Sure they’ll go to ‘Rocky Mountain Nat’l Park’ for a week-end once, maybe twice a year.. though always during the Summer. Tulips..
Or maybe even the transplants (with their ‘cool’ tribal tatts and affliction t-shirt) will occasionally hit the slopes, have NO respect for other riders and be complete assholes on their rented/ brand new looking 5 year old snowboard on the slopes.
No, instead these folks frequent the lame, metrosexual/ trustfundarian hotspots such as LoDo, 16th Street, Cheery Creek and the concerts, fair events.
The F/T enviro residents MAY live as far ‘West’ as Bailey, Evergreen.. in the ‘mountains’. hahaha.
THEY are the sole reason there’s multiple, ‘Men’s hair salons’, ‘medicinal marijuana locations’ and ‘Tex-Mex’ type restaurants strewn throughout the Denver Metro area.
FYI: The recreation industry in Colorado flourishes due to the minority # of hard-working, middle class outdoor enthusiast 20-40 somethings.
It’s not the tree huggers, enviro-Nazis. THESE are the groups that are trying to snuff out REAL outdoor enthusiasts with the aid of the USFS, BLM, Sierra Club via ‘Preservation’, ‘Regulation’ and other flashy buzzwords emotionally-led boobs cling to.
Heck, SteveB – the aforementioned enviros consist mostly of P/T employees, most times P/T residents at ski resorts, rafting companies, clear trails in Summer for the Forest Service, seasonal construction workers etc., Providing little/ no income to the state/ tourist industry.
Sure there’s the trustfundarians in Boulder as well, scattered throughout the Denver Metro.
Whereas they’re too afraid of a dirt bike, gun, camping in 20F or colder nights etc.,
Rather than SHARE these interests with multi-generational Coloradans, they’d rather squash it. Again in the name of, ‘preservation’, ‘environmental needs’ and any other sound bite for the sanctimonious, scientifically void community.
I’ve met PLENTY of, ‘Outdoor Ed Rec Consultants’. My folks live in Buena Vista whereas your clientele for the Arkansas River, mountain biking, hiking, hot springs etc., are again, typically transplants and or tourists.
I grew up in Woodland Park and was proud to call Rampart Range my backyard. Now, the presence of the Feds there is stifling. Suffocating.
When I visit nowadays I sadly ignore that area altogether and go to Florissant/ Druid Hills area for dirt biking, camping. Before it too is ‘protected’.
Jim Baker: :Last year, this guy was lobbying the BLM in Colorado & Wyoming………” What guy?
“He wanted to prevent oil companies from leasing……..” Oil companies or gas companies? BLM is legally required to do a quarterly lease sale. Craig field office of BLM released their new management plan last year. Of 1.2 million surface acres, nearly 1 million are subject to leasing or already leased. Your “guy” isn’t doing a very good job.
Paul_unalaska: “The overwhelming majority of these transplants move to the Metro areas and RARELY go to the environmental recreation you speak of……..” And you know of this by having interviewed a substantial sample of 2 million transplants from the past 20 years? Why does it matter where people choose to live. And, I believe I spoke of outdoor recreation, not environmental.
“Rather than SHARE these interests with multi-generational Coloradans…….” And you’re speaking of…..what?
“I grew up in Woodland Park and was proud to call Rampart Range my backyard…….now the presence of the Feds there is stifling, suffocating…….” Funny thing. The money to provide trail maintenance and patrolling on Rampart Range comes from the recreational users via the State Parks off-highway vehicle grants program. The Feds are assisted in oversight by a user committee. With so many people wanting to ride there and at Rainbow Falls, all now work for protection of the resource and the recreational experience.
You got the part right about not doing a very good job, guy.
I have stumbled across a new word in an online dictionary that I feel we will all be using shortly. It’s Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) — a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least intelligent and least capable of producing and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
Welcome to the United Socialist Obambi Republic INEPTOCRACY . Presided over by an unqualified Racist USURPER and Governed by unelected SOCIALIST and Racist Czars. Protected by an in the tank Lame Stream EneMedia and a RACIST DOJ head who hold Congress in contempt.
Just a prelude to post-2011 elections. If the no-hydrocarbon Team O wins in Nov., the regs will be “beefed” up as all regs always are. After all, what’s a regulator to do if they’ve stopped all activity — make more regs!!
Obviously, you need some regulations. When there is a disaster, as there always is, you need to have some baseline of procedures which were followed, or not followed, which did not prevent or led to the disaster. What exactly is the story here? We are going to have more fracking, but it will also be Federally regulated more. Got it. Anything else?
Ye’. No one is saying that all regulation is bad. This would not be an issue if each state were to issue their own regulations based on the needs and safety concerns of their citizens. The problem is that federal regulations under Obama are politicized because he is so beholden on campaign contributions from the green special interest groups. Got it? That wasn’t so hard. Separation of fed and state.
Seems to me that Federal Regulation makes sense, even if there are the accumulated agendas. Obviously you should have it for the interstate pipelines, but it would be helpful to know how much variation there is in the current state regulations.
why is the fed regulating activities at a state level? Lets see, we have the epa fed, epa state, epa county, epa local. How many epa’s do we need?
“On April 13, Obama issued an executive order on ‘supporting safe and responsible development of unconventional domestic natural gas resources’ — ‘unconventional’ being the hydraulic fracturing, or ‘fracking,’ that draws the natural resource from rocks.”
The key words here are “safe and responsible”.
Obama, like the deep-eco crowd he associates with, believes that there is no such thing as a “safe” or “responsible” way to generate energy other than their two Holy Grails, wind and solar.
As such, he is telling us here that the EPA (which is staffed by deep-eco fanatics, like it or not) will find a way to prohibit any sort of petroleum exploration or exploitation, fracking or otherwise. Just as they have done with nuclear power and hydroelectric power for the last forty years.
Obama lies by parsing words in addition to simply telling bald-faced lies quite openly. He does so because
(1) He KNOWS he is superior to each and every one of you (after all, He Is A God);
(2) His dogmas allow him to do so in pursuit of Utopia (“You bitter clingers can’t handle MY truth!”); and
(3) Because he knows that the media will cover for him by sheer reflex, the same way Modern Architecture students are incapable of drawing anything but a glass box, as Tom Wolfe relates (see “From Bauhaus To Our House”).
He fully intends to ram Utopia down your throats, and really doesn’t give a damn what you think about it. Or how much damage he does in the process. After all, Western Civilization is the source of all evil on Earth, anyway, so punishment is called for on general principles.
Those of us who survive may be good “citizens of the world” after our chastisement. Under the benign rule of enlightened intellectuals like our President, who cannot conceive of anyone unlike himself having a good idea. Or even having brains enough to pour water out of a bucket without step-by-step guidance from someone as enlightened as he is.
When this man is smiling, he’s really sneering at you. Remember that.
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The Obama administration is executing the Kremlin’s preferred policy for energy regulation in the USA. Kremlin and OPEC policies –altho both are oil exporters for whom higher oil prices are generally advantageous –differ in that OPEC prefers robust western economies, while the Kremlin prefers western economies weak and disorganized.
The Obama admin is not as inept as it is disloyal to and utterly subversive of the 80% –and probably 99.9% if the 20% understood what is really afoot –of the American people who do not want to crash the free enterprise system.
In Soviet Amerika, government drills you!
Did not vote for this.
This administration rams through ideologically-driven, financially crippling nonsense and all the while puts the brakes on a myriad of economic improvements to our country.
Meanwhile Uhbama has used AF1, exuding more CO2 in the process, and had more campaign stops ALREADY than ANY other President.. and it’s only May!
These are enemies of the state, folks. Slice and dice it anyway you like.
As for another waste of carbon – Ken Salazar.. when’s he going to be brought up on criminal charges for his negligence in the 2010 Gulf oil spill to transpire?
It’s plain as day Salazar was (and continues doing so) negligent in his SoI role, duties.
Salazar’s memorandums CONSTANTLY spoke of ‘alternative energy strategies’ rather than keeping his eye on the ball, running the SoI, inspections smoothly. You know, PERFORMING ONE’S JOB!
Oh, that’s right. Salazar’s Mexican AND a government employee.. accountability be damned!
Fracking has been going on for 60 years, very effectively regulated by state oil and gas commissions who know much more about the industry than does the feds. and not one single incident has been found in which ground water contamination has resulted from the fracking. The “:need” to control emissions resulted form a fraudulent study by a professor at SMU, who used data from a completely different and very dissimilar field to determine that the Barnett Shale field caused emission problems, in spite of the DFW air imp[roving during the massive development of the Barnett. The result of publishing such a fraudulent and discredited study7 – he was appointed head of the EPA for the Texas region.
Re the first set of EPA frack-attacks last December, please take a look at my comment #9 –the link to Michael Fumento will link you to his expose of the EPA’s abuse of the powers given it under the Clean Air Act. Fumento’s EPA/Clean Air Act article is from 1997 –evidentally, EPA took some time off during the Bush administration –when unemployment was a quarter of now, when GDP growth was four times now, when the deficit as a percentage of GDP was a quarter of now.
Well, speaking of the hollowed commitments to the rule of law etc, etc, on April 29, Sunday, the President took off for Afghanistan to sign a status of forces agreement ending the war on terror and, apparently, further drone strikes and military operations into Pakistan from Afghanistan. So, the day before, on Saturday, 28, there was a drone strike into Pakistan (collateral damage and details unknown), but presumably that now was the last legal cross border drone strike of the former war on terror. No more capturing (kidnapping) Muslims on jihad in Pakistan (bin Laden’s second in command for example) from Afghan bases. So, since the war on terror is over, I presume the congressional authorization for military force (the legal equivalent of a declaration of war after 9/11, according to Supreme Court precedents) should now be canceled and all those subsequent ancillary war fighting policy and procedures should be ended (POW camps closed and prisoners of war released, the troops brought home post haste)? I presume this means no more tortuous enhanced TSA airport security and domestic intelligence gathering, crotch gropings, and electronic strip searches? I mean, if the war on terror is over for the Afghans, surly the war on terror should be over for the Americans and the peace dividends used to pay down the debt?
He did it! Barry’s campaign officially starts on May 5–Karl Marx’s Birthday.
“Mandrake, did you ever see a commie drink a glass of water?”
The free market success wildcatters have achieved exploiting natural gas reserves sitting under private land has been an embarrassment. This new wave of regulation will help fix that problem.
The whole globo-socialist narrative is impelled by a constant state of emergency: America’s running out of energy (600 yrs in reserves), the big oil companies receive subsidies (they receive $0 in subsidies), the world ecology is about to break down because of man-caused global warming (we’re in our seventh year of global cooling now, and the once burgeoning anthropogenic warming industry has been exposed as scientific fraud), the 2008 meltdown was caused by Wall Street greed (it was caused by the idea from Barney and Chris to use the CRA to force banks to make bad mortgage loans), the Republicans have declared war on women (half of Republicans are women)…
EMERGENCY! Never waste a good emergency. is what Rahm and Hillary said. EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! We have no choice but to abandon the law, forgo freedom, and unleash the central planners on all the EMERGENCIES confronting Americans today.
–and they’re not just using emergency, they’re creating emergency. This 60 Minutes segment slipped right past a country stunned already by bombshells –it’s short (just a few minute segment –not the whole 60 minutes).
The SEC and the FED were officing inside Lehman Bros in the run up to the surprise bankruptcy which ushered Obama into office with a blank slate –because of the Bush financial disaster –to do whatever he (his handlers, who knows who they are) wanted.
…and, no charges. Nada. But at least maybe CBS is coming in from the cold –tho it has taken long enough. Or maybe CBS is just keeping it on Wall Street and away from DC.
But watch this few minutes, and ask yourself about the timing of Barney and Chris’s big finale.
The final word from auditor Lee rings true. The CEO’s want to create financial implements so convoluted that regulators simply cannot understand them, so how can they regulate? A similar point got made on Frontline programs a month ago.
It’s a Catch 22. We supposedly need the financial markets to work for the world’s economy to work, but one of their major goals is to pretend to be making money from credit default swaps etc. which gets ratcheted up and up until…poof. Their “work” is to be smarter and shiftier than anyone else, and apparently, they are.
The idea of cheap, reliable domestic gas and oil is terrifying to the greens.
They will do ANYTHING to destroy it.
The idea of Western civilization as a whole is anathema to the Greens. And they see starving it of energy as the best way to destroy it.
Never mistake a tactical objective for a strategic goal. The Wehrmacht didn’t drive to the Channel in June 1940 for the view.
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Steve B/ Colorado: The ‘..2 million transplants..’ are overwhelmingly from the West. Specifically California.
I don’t blame them for their wanting to leave a high tax, crime area. However, rather than assimilating to Colorado, they’ve brought their same baggage with.
And ‘Yes’, I know. ALL Coloradans encountered these folks who live in/ near the Springs/ Denver Metro areas, ski towns, camping and biking locales.
What I’d said in my previous post is the sanctimonious enviros, cronyism abounds and partnership with the Fed has made Colorado’s OUTDOOR areas to be more so for the enviro/ transplant types.
Yep I’m aware of the ‘user committee’ – RRMMC. My pops was part of the original 70′s-90′s whereas it metastasized for the typical Fed, cronyism involvement-worse.
The RRMMC ‘members’ are overwhelmingly business cronies, lobbyists etc., type members who ‘share’ their Board votes to Conservation members.. for starters!
http://rampartrange.org/download/May%205-6%202010%20Email%20Chain-5.pdf
The meetings are NOT open to the public. Whereas accountability, actual ‘partnerships’ with the community is fiction.
BTW, the concerned parties in the previous pdf (http://rampartrange.org/download/May%205-6%202010%20Email%20Chain-5.pdf) are as follows:
James Pribyl, Parks Board Member that works for firm that hired
Scott Chase.
Scott Chase, Lobbyist (Politicalworks) who conspires with select Parks
Board members to make backroom deals not available to the public.
Bryan Martin, Director of Conservation, Colorado Mountain Club who
starts E-mail string to Parks Board members.
Laurie Mathews, Parks Board Member that shares confidential Board votes
to Bryan Martin.
Jim Martin, Past Director, Colorado Dept of Natural Resources (CDNR)
Mike King, Current Director, CDNR
Doug Robotham, Assistant Director, CDNR
Jerry Abboud, Executive Director COHVCO
Yeah, ‘works together’ alright.
Colorado has been a quiet but desperate battleground at least since arch-enviro entrepreneur Maurice Strong said “All roads lead to Colorado”.
Old news Paul. Half those people are no longer in those positions. And the lawsuit filed against the state over the matters you illustrate got thrown out of court.
Answer to Jim Baker: do you own an ATV? No, I own a 4×4.
Did you read about the track fire? My damned truck is a 4×4!