What Piracy? This Is the Same Old Jihad
During the recent Somali pirate standoff with U.S. forces, when American sea captain Richard Phillips was being held hostage, Fox News analyst Charles Krauthammer confidently concluded that “the good news is that these [pirates] are not jihadists. If it’s a jihadist holding a hostage, there is going to be a lot of death. These guys are interested not in martyrdom but in money.”
In fact, the only good news is that Richard Phillips has been rescued. The bad news is that what appears to have been a bunch of lawless, plunder-seeking Somalis “yo-hoing” on the high seas is, in fact, a manifestation of the jihad — as attested to by both Islamic history and doctrine.
Indeed, the first jihad a newborn U.S. encountered was of a pirate nature: the Barbary Wars off the coast of North Africa (beginning 1801, exactly 200 years before September 11, 2001). Writing in the Middle East Quarterly a year before Somali piracy made headlines, U.S. sea captain Melvin E. Lee — who knows in theory what Captain Phillips may have learned in practice — writes:
What Americans and Europeans saw as piracy, Barbary leaders justified as legitimate jihad. [President Thomas] Jefferson related a conversation he had in Paris with Ambassador Abdrahaman of Tripoli, who told him that all Christians are sinners in the context of the Koran and that it was a Muslim’s “right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to enslave as many as they could take as prisoners.”
Lee goes on to reflect: “One of the greatest challenges facing strategic leaders today is objectively examining the centuries-old roots of Islamic jihadism and developing a strategy that will lead to a lasting solution to the Western conflict with it. … This inability to grasp the root of Islamic jihadism is the result of a moral relativism prominent in modern Western liberal thought.”
This last point is especially poignant. While U.S. leadership is capable of mouthing history, so too is it in the habit of distorting history through such “moral relativism.” Hillary Clinton, for example, in a press conference about the Somali kidnapping crisis, put an interesting spin on the Barbary Wars when she said — in between fits of hysterical and inexplicable laughter — that America and Morocco worked “together to end piracy off the coast of Morocco all those years ago, and, uh, we’re going to work together to end, uh, this kind of, uh, criminal activity anywhere on the high seas.”
Historical anecdotes aside, it need be acknowledged that, doctrinally speaking, the jihad has various manifestations; it is not limited to bearded, “Allah Akbar”-screaming mujahidin fighting in Afghanistan and lurking in caves. Along with jihad al-lissan and jihad al-qalam (jihad of the tongue and pen, respectively, i.e., propaganda jihad), one of the most important forms of jihad is known as jihad al-mal — or “money jihad.”
The money jihad is fulfilled whenever a Muslim financially supports the more familiar violent jihad. The Koran itself declares: “Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if you but knew” (9:41).
Several other verses (see 9:20, 9:60, 49:15, and 61:10-11) make the same assertion and, more importantly, in the same order: striving with one’s wealth almost always precedes striving with one’s life, thereby prioritizing the former over the latter, at least according to a number of jurists and mufasirin.
A few days ago anthor American ship was attacked. A call was made and five hours later a navy ship comes to the rescue. When I read that my blood boiled. Are you f-king kidding me or what. Where are the Black Hawks who could have been there in minutes and saved us court expenses by killing them on the spot. As much as I disliked Bush I believe his solution to this particular issue would have been straight foward and better than the babbling, whining liberals. The entire Western world including China and Russia are behind us on this one. And it takes us FIVE HOURS to come to the rescue. How freaking pathetic is that…
There’s really no difference between hijacking a ship on the high seas and hijacking a ship of the desert (camel) caravan on the high desert. Muhammed himself led many caravan raids in the desert between Mecca & Medina. In fact, Bill Clinton’s chosen quote (from the Koran) at the signing of the Oslo Accords in September 1993, “… if your neighbor inclines toward peace, you should also incline toward peace…” was from a speech given by Muhammed at the conclusion of one such raid, first praising his combatants and then giving them a pep talk about how to undermine the infidel (this included local Arabs who had not converted to Islam).. (see Sura 8, especially verses 55-65).
With Islam having been born in the Arav (desert) and maintaining Arab culture (language, customs, ideas) from pre-Islamic Arab life, why would anyone be surprised by the connection of the history of raids of desert camel caravans to the Somali (and other) Muslim pirates raids on ships at sea?
its the profit stupid.
get real.
Islam is a death cult and yet people ignore the fact and think you can reason with savages. Will they never learn?
I have no doubts that Raymond Ibrahim is a very bright and well educated man, I’ve been reading his stuff for several years now, and I generally agree with his assessments. However, I think in this case Raymond is attributing qualities to the Somali pirates that they simply do not possess.
Does anyone actually believe those pirates holding Captain Phillips in that lifeboat had anything other than a room temp IQ? I also doubt any of them had ever read a book, or if they could even read. If they did have a clue, they’d have surrendered the moment the USS Bainbridge hoved into view. This was an obvious lose, lose situation for the bad guys.
Africans seem incapable of self governance, incapable of self restraint, incapable of understanding personal responsibility, incapable of adhering to any sort of rule of law. There are many examples of tribalism, violence, genocide, and atrocities galore throughout Africa just within my short lifetime. The rule seems to be; “Never trust a black African man if there would be an ounce of profit in your death”.
These pirates backed into their profession out of greed for the easy money, nothing else. Whatever is their religion, they need to die.
Pirates are pirates regardless of their religion. It is “seaway” robbery for fun and profit. You defeat the Pirates of Puntland the same way we won the Battle of the Atlantic: Convoys, naval armed guards, sink on sight and attack at the source.
Supressing piracy is easier then suppressing U-boats because for the former it’s all about the Benjamins while the later will fight until they are told not to.
“These pirates backed into their profession out of greed for the easy money, nothing else.”
When Muhammad left Mecca in disgust with only about ten followers after years of proselytizing, he took his merry band to Medina (Yathrib), going into voluntary exile. There he changed tactics. He was out of money and in a bad way. So, he got a timely “revelation” from the sock puppet: “Allah” (the sock puppet) told him to raid the caravans. Kill the men, enslave the women and children, and take the loot, dividing the spoils as specified. So, Muhammad gathered in all manner of desperate men for this profitable venture. For these men, the loot and the women were the primary draw. That Muhammad was able to sell the idea that a deity had given permission for this time-honored Arabian custom was all to the better.
Plunder is very much at the heart of the cult of Allah. Those who say that the Somali pirates are not engaging in a form of jihad are only fooling themselves. They aren’t fooling me.
was Blackbeard “simply acting on centuries-old doctrines of Islamic warfare”?
No, like any good privateer, he saw an opportunity for profit in murky international waters and he took it.
This idea that Somali piracy is somehow inherently jihadist and based on Muslim teachings is pretty laughable.
“these [pirates] are not jihadists” and perhaps the pirates (muslim) off Thailand are not jihadist. The bigger point to international trade and shipping is that they are PIRATES. As with the Blued Eyed Devil European pirates of old they need to be killed, their ships and bases destroyed.
President Bush ll waited for “international” action and President B. Hussein Obama waits for “international” action; Bush ll because he was weak and afraid of being accused of unilateralism and B. Hussein Obama does not wish to offend his homies.
But if “its the profit stupid” or jihad PIRATES need to be killed, their ships and bases destroyed–we might not stop the jihad but we can destroy the profit. It has worked before.
Somebody should have killed Muhammad back then,,, it would have saved us a lot of grief now.
Pastor of Muppets:
“This idea that Somali piracy is somehow inherently jihadist and based on Muslim teachings is pretty laughable”
You have obviously neve read the Koran have you? No on is saying piracy is exclusively muslim, although terrorism seems to be now a days, but it is called for in their book as they stated back in 1801 to Jefferson which gave birth to the Navy and marines. They need a reminder of that.
@ Pastor of Muppets,
Please do not twist my thoughts.
FYI, I am a proponent of the 2nd Amendment, I am the owner of lots of guns, I hate the idea of abortion, I disapprove of stem cell research, and I disapprove of lax immigration regulation. I also don’t believe the notion that Obama can spend our way out of a depression, and I want a complete revolution in 2010 where we throw all the “tax & spend” congress out on their collective backsides, be they Democrat or Republican.
Does that clear things up for you?
Islam prepares its followers to conquer, plunder, rape and submit. The West is literally going out of its way to cultivate a victim mentality.
Is there a better way to secure our demise than by failing to fight against the return to middle age savagery? Look at the so-called modern world: Most of humanity is terrified by tyrants, in other words, under the world of terror, of which pirates is only one manifestation. A small fraction of humanity (less than 10%) is enjoying freedom and prosperity, whether they deserve it or not, whether they even realize it or not.
The catastrophe of an atavistic return to terror is not going to be avoided by by softening islam with smiles, open hands and melodies. The only safe exit is to wake up and understand what we are up against first, and then act on it, diligently.
Raymond Ibrahim is trying to open our eyes. Can’t we recognize the difference between a cathedral and a heap of rubble containing the same volume of stone, and heed his counsel?
This idea that Somali piracy is somehow inherently jihadist and based on Muslim teachings is pretty laughable.
Their tactics are probably based on the Islamic culture that they grew up in. The majority of Somalis are moderate to extreme Islamists. It’s a small crime and poverty stricken nation, ruled by many different extreme to moderate militias. The pirates couldn’t survive if they weren’t working with Islamists.
According to the BBC article titled “Pirates ‘working with Islamists’”, “Jane’s Terrorism and Security Monitor says certain insurgents are using pirates to smuggle weapons and supplies and help provide bases in return. The London-based newsletter says pirates are also training Somali hardliners in naval tactics.”
Jihadis in Somalia are supported by the two pillars of world terrorism, Iran and Saudi Arabia. Both of these nations use failed states like Somalia and the Sudan as their own personal playgrounds, to train jihadis, extort money from the west and to enslave whomever they can.
@fred #7, My point was,,, I don’t think the Somali pirates are that smart. In the immortal words of Forrest Gump: “Stupid is as stupid does”.
I don’t think being Muslim has much to do with this situation. We are just dealing with some stupid people who haven’t figured out that you don’t poke a sleeping tiger with a stick and expect a positive outcome.
I love the “Moderate muslim” thing, like saying there were “Moderate Nazis”. I also find it funny most people have more animosity toward Scientology than the death cult of islam. The former will take your money, the latter will take your head.
Muppy boy woke up from his nap.
To all the nay-sayers who say jihad has nothing to do with pirates, who find that thesis “pretty laughable,” who see the Somalis as nothing more than savages and barbarians out to loot, you need to consider this:
from the beginning, with Muhammad, Muslims raided, kidnapped, raped, and ransomed, not so much because they were very committed to jihad and its god but because, like these Somalis, it gave a religious cover to their otherwise savage tendencies. So, yes, maybe they do not reason it out; still, as an ingrained part of their Muslim worldview, the jihad doctrines probably further compel these Somalis into firmly believing that they are in the right, that they are only behaving like good Muslims fighting infidels.
#10 John B.
“Somebody should have killed Muhammad back then,,, it would have saved us a lot of grief now.”
Interesting hypothesis, but this is not how the ball bounced. Islam has proven to be robust. It’s more likely that whomever would have have advocated any concept of “moderation” (translate: weakness) in Mohammed’s entourage are those who got “suppressed”, if we must be oh-so exquisitely polite about it.
What does the robustness of islam mean? It’s means that we are dealing with a trap that was setup some 14 centuries ago, and 1.3 billion people have already fallen in it. What’s the Judeo-Christian tradition in this frame of reference? It’s the ultimate refuge against our catastrophic fall into the balck hole of terror.
Oh, by the way, what’s the bete noire of islam? The christans and the jews! Anyone wants to cook up some coincidence theory about this?
So yes, John B., if there had been a successful subversion of islam, things would be simpler. The closest thing to a subversion of islam, is in fact a sub-version of it: The Shia movement. Keep in mind that this is the one that somehow swallowed the persian empire, and is now giving us today’s islam in stereo, In other words, we have been cornered!
There is no stopping progress, which is precisely what the “progressive” are professing! This is not just about a one-way street. It’s more like an exponentially slippery slope.
Professor Guvinoff,
You give legitimacy to Islam, where I do not.
Islam is, IMHO, nothing more than a malignant cancer inflicted upon the ignorant Arab and north African in the 5th Century, spread at sword’s point across middle Asia, and does nothing but give a plethora of excuses for bad behavior for evil people.
Subscribe to the teachings of Muhammad and you can do anything you want to do, engage in your wildest sexual fantasy, and it isn’t wrong. In fact, Allah will reward your bad behavior with 72 forever virgins in paradise. Muhammad was a sexual deviant and a pedophile, hence his teachings followed those fantasies.
That’s pretty sick stuff, of course there are a lot of stupid people right here in the USA who believe Obama is going to cut taxes too.
the french commandant who is responsible for the anti-piracy operations in Indian Ocean, just said that somalian piracy is no more a local piracy for surviving since one year and a half, but that it has now become a mafia organisation, with lage money supports from rogue states
John B.
Hey, John! We are using the comments section of this blog as an avenue of debate, and why not? Let’s see if we can manage to keep it civil.
You argue that I grant legitimacy to Islam. I think the legitimacy argument can be valid (or invalid, I don’t know) in the realm of theology, which I do not make a claim of being able to debate.
My interest is about whether islam is dangerous to us or not. If it is indeed dangerous, and we fail to push it back (Jefferson did push it back successfully, after reading an English translation of the Koran) during the barbary wars), we expose ourselves to being conquered, enslaved, plundered and raped, and we will lose everything, including the leisure to discuss the legitimacy of islam, should we rise to the level of erudition that would make it reasonable.
So my question to you is “Do you consider islam a real threat to our privileges of liberty and prosperity, and everything else we owe to the judeo-christian tradition?”
I am not educated enough to argue about the theoretical merit of one theology over another, but I do see the dramatic differences in the practical outcomes of this and that theology: The muslim world is under the thumb of tyranny and terror. We enjoy freedom. An empirical and pragmatic approach is sufficient to argue this. No need for stratospheric philosophy,
Now, the muslims are happy to use cell phones, automobiles, satellite TV and even airplanes (although with an ethical standard we failed to recognize in time). They actually accept all the conveniences provided by the West, while repudiating the principles on which it stands (or at least has stood so far).
About raiding caravans in the desert and boarding vessels at sea: One can notice that these practices are remarkably, shall we say, “compatible” with the principle of harvesting that which you did not sow, a distinctly islamic standard in the “modern” age.
Some intellectuals in Saudi Arabia have even argued that we should still send them money after their oil reserves are exhausted. Should we be concerned, and should we do something about it?
From a recent article in Garowe Online:
‘Somali Islamist leaders: “I can say the pirates are part of the Mujahideen because they are in a war with Christian countries who want to misuse the Somali coast.”’
http://is.gd/t0hn
And from September 2008:
In a recent communiqué, the Islamist organization claimed responsibility for this year’s surge in pirate attacks in the vital Gulf of Aden off the coast of Somalia. Dozens of vessels from different nations have been seized and held for ransom, shaking the world’s shipping industry. Al-Qaeda calls its maritime campaign “a new strategy which permits the mujahedeen” to hijack shipping, since “fighters who aspire to establish the caliphate must control the seas and the waterways.”
Counterterrorism consultant Olivier Guitta revealed the al-Qaeda connection in his Asia Times column, writing that the terrorist organization “intends to take control of the Gulf of Aden and the southern entrance of the Red Sea.” Guitta called the area “strategic” for the radical Islamic group.
Al-Qaeda’s goal is the removal of Western military bases from the Arabian Peninsula. It believes sea lanes “weakened by acts of piracy,” combined with mujahedeen attacks, will force concessions from Western powers. And while Al-Qaeda has not abandoned its more traditional tactics – it has a presence in both Somalia and Yemen and attacked the American embassy in Yemen this month, killing 16 – the organization is increasingly focusing its terror on the high seas.
http://is.gd/t0oT
(But don’t tell the sheeple, okay?)
5. John B, well I read that one of them actually said he was prepared to die as a martyr when told that he was many miles away from land, these pirates were part of the greater Jihad no doubt about it.
“First cause” an oxymoron could never occur, infinite ceaselessness has no beginning!
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END PIRACY ON THE HIGH SEAS
FIRST- All “Mother Ships” MUST BE SUNK!
The Somalia pirates must be dealt with forcefully!
They are violating every precept of moral code and law of humanity!
And they must be stopped.
When a “pirates speedboat” comes alongside a vessel they intend to “hijack”,
and proceeds to throw “grappling hooks” used to climb aboard; a member of the crew of that “vessel” should pull the pin of a HAND GRENADE, count to seven, and drop it in the “speedboat! Voila! No more threat of ‘high jacking’!
Also, the speedboats carrying pirates that are “highjacking” vessels hundreds of miles from shore, are not coming from shore, but from a “Mother Ship”!
All “Mother Ships” must be located, all aboard should be removed, and
ALL the “Mother Ships”should be SUNK!
If ALL “Mother Ships” are SUNK, this should end the “PIRACY ON THE HIGH SEAS”
by Somalia pirates!
Further, with regard to the many already hijacked vessels and “hostage crew members;
It is ‘high time’ these horrible crimes, and embarrassments to the rest of the World
are properly dealt with.
The United Nations must mount a Military Force, enter the Somalia “pirates” stronghold
and, by whatever means necessary, FREE ALL THE HOSTAGES, AND, THE
HIJACKED VESSELS, seize all the pirates, and remove all their means for ‘Piracy’,
including all heavy weapons used for threatening to “sink” the hijacked vessels.
and, the “ransom” money the pirates are using to purchase more weapons and
boats for their piracy.
Also, remote controlled Drones, Helicopters and Patrol boats must locate ALL ‘Mother Ships’ that the pirates are ‘deploying from, and SINK THEM!
Back when the neocomrades were ridin’ tall in the saddle with Rancho Crawford, this sort of indecorous squabble used to happen to us fiends: in particular, nearly everybody in the Fiend Coalition attempted to demonstrate that *her* crew’s sorrows were even sorrier than the sorrows of AfroAmerica. Or so I remember or misremember. [1]
Accordingly, it is (an uncharitable) kind of fun to listen to M. Raymond d’ Íbráhím hyperventilatin’ as the niche market for _jihád_ careerism dries up. Ninety-odd percent of ideology consumers at Wingnut City and Pajamastán have decided, at least for the moment, that John Maynard Keynes is an even worse danger to their belovèd Western Sieve (Pat. Pend.) than even Muhammad Abú Qásim b. ‘Abdalláh. [2]
What could be less surprisin’, under the circumstances, than that poor backwatered M. d’I. should try to unilaterally preëmpt everythin’ that comes down the pike for his own preferred agenda?
To appreciate quite how outlandishly he grabs in the case at hand is would require more knowledge of ‘our’ former Islamophalangitarian Foe than the rank-and-file Party base and vile actually possess.
That ignorance is interesting in itself, however. During the seven fat years of Boy and Dynasty and Party and Ideology from 12 September 2001 to (let’s for convenience make the _terminus ad quem_) 12 September 2008 (when the Crawford Crash took precedence over Kiddie Krusadin’ instantly and effortlessly), there was almost an infinite supply of wannabe preceptors, many of them far less antecedently unsatisfactory than Neocomrade R. Ibrahim — and yet the amount of Know-the-Foe learnin’ that took place at the astroturfroots level of Rio Limbaugh was, as far as this keyboard can discern, negligible.
What went wrong, Neocomrade Herr Prof. Dr. B. Lewis? [2]
O God, O Montreal! What the [expletive deleted] went wrong?
Happy days.
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[1] Less than a year ago. Golly, how Time flies!
[2] Considered from outside the zoölogical gardens at Rio Limbaugh, this development is unfortunate in one peripheral respect: Mr. Keynes does not seem to be anywhere near so suitable as cartoon fodder. But perhaps the neocomradely Graphic Arm is just gettin’ started?
For that nifty sieve product of theirs, the obvious place to begin remains
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations
[3] http://www.princeton.edu/~nes/faculty_lewis.html
What a dopey contention: if they seize ships like pirates, if they sell the stuff they steal like pirates, and if they hold hostages for ransom like pirates, they’re pirates, period, just like all other pirates in the past. If anything, they seem a bit less blood thirsty than most pirates, but they are still just pirates, not friggin terrorists or jihadists. Gawd, what maroons….
Of course they are pirates. No one is disputing that at all. This is not a case of either or. Unfortunately, most of the people who post here are largely unknowledgeable about the history of Islam, Islamic scriptures (Qur’an), traditions (ahadith), and the life and deeds of the prophet (Sira). The author of the thread, Raymond Ibrahim, is far more knowledgeable about these things than most of you are. For my part, so I too am quite up to speed in these subjects. Muhammad got his movement kick started by means of brigandage as a recruitment tool and he also used it as a way of verifying the reality of his “Allah.” “Allah” gave them victory: spoils, money, women, slaves, and the chance to indulge their blood lust. These young men were generally the outcasts, youngest disinherited sons, and criminal elements in Yathrib (Medina). “Allah” appealed to all the things they lusted after. And in sating those lusts he was proven to them to be real. This is the reality of it. It is the actual history. I am not making this up.
Not all of his followers were specifically religiously motivated when they raided the caravans and then later on attacked the Jewish tribes. They wanted loot, but they also felt comfortable that their actions were “sacralized” by Muhammad’s sock puppet.
I suspect that some people have difficulties in accepting the fact that the lines of motives are blurred in reality. The material lusts and spiritual comforts are all there, in varying degrees and biased in one direction or the other among these modern brigands of Allah.
What most Westerners seem to have trouble with: they think that the Marxist template (“material want and rage over poverty”)is the only factor that explains the actions of the Somali Muslim pirates. I, on the other hand, see them as quite reasonably following in the tradition of the Barbary pirates whom Thomas Jefferson confronted only after he had read a copy of the Qur’an he obtain in London. After he read it, his objections to John Adams’ comfort with paying the jizya went to another level. Some estimates of this jizya were that it was easily one-third of our gross domestic product at that time.
Don’t some of you peeps read the Chesler Chronicles here on PJM?
http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/04/14/children-of-the-taliban-teenage-somali-pirates-must-we-save-them-all/
McTasib:
The sad part is, you probably actually think you’re funny.
I think its less that Pirates are motivated by Islamic ideology than it is the rules of Jihad allows piracy to exist in Somalia.
Because their actions hurt the infidels or the moderate Muslims (which are almost as bad) and provide funding to the Jihad, piracy is tolerated by the society. The fact that the if the pirates are successful they get to take home a thousand or so dollars from the 40 million home is the economic side of it.
@ 28. Fred:
Well put!
If European fascism does not revive, good night.
@ Pastor of Muppets,
Please do not twist my thoughts.
FYI, I am a proponent of the 2nd Amendment, I am the owner of lots of guns, I hate the idea of abortion, I disapprove of stem cell research, and I disapprove of lax immigration regulation. I also don’t believe the notion that Obama can spend our way out of a depression, and I want a complete revolution in 2010 where we throw all the “tax & spend” congress out on their collective backsides, be they Democrat or Republican.
Does that clear things up for you?
John B: Right with you on your above comments.
The pirtaes as Mr. Ibrahim points out are nothing LESS than Jihadists and as time goes on this will be proven out. Unless of course we just blow them out of the ocean as soon as they make ANY threats to any ship, especially one under USA command or company. Many of you here do not know or understand islam, islamofacism, the jihad requiremnet in islam, the qur’an, hadith and suras(siras). I am no expert and have, and continually study islam. It is THE threat to the free world of our time. Mr. Ibrahim is EXTREMELY knowledgable about islam as are most the folks who write for Jihad Watch. Before you come out and slam those of us who are canaries in the coal mines, I would suggest you do some homework on islam, muhammed and all the violence, perversion and sickness that is islam. It is a totalitarian ideaology masquerading as a religion.
There is no peace within islam, and with islam there can be no peace!
Arselifter is as arselifter does.
In 1786, Thomas Jefferson, then the ambassador to France, and John Adams, ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, a visiting ambassador from Tripoli. The Americans asked Adja why his government was hostile to American ships, even though there had been no provocation. They reported to the Continental Congress that the ambassador had told them “it was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave,” but he also told them that for what they considered outrageous sums of money they could make peace.[22]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_Pirates
/always a good idea to have some understanding what piracy means in islam
John B – what has intellect or brains got to do with being a jihadist plunderer?
Most Muslims who are illiterate receive no education except for oral instruction in Islam, and if they get any writing training it’s in Arabic – to facilitate learning Islam and its law of sharia. Oh, and how the Jews are to blame for all of their problems(eg see Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s book infidel)
You don’t need to be a deep thinker to chant jihadi slogans or to carry a rocket launcher on to a boat!
Pajamas Media: a patently racist and wholly owned subsidiary of Mossad. You readers here are just a bunch of stupid fools.
#38
There is no more racist, supremacist or misogynist religion on earth than Islam. Subjegation of the non-believer and the feminine oozes from it’s very pores. If wanting to wipe out this evil infection makes me a racist, than sobeit. I wear that title with honour.
(mmmmmmm……channeling moonbat trolls….mmmmmmm…..UHHHHH!)
No what you clueless Rethuglicans (my term, I made it up, you can check the Interweb by Goggling It) dont understand is that Bu$h/Hitler would have ENJOYED giving the order to shoot those poor boys. The blood of these young AFricans (BLACK YOUTHS) would have been delivered to him and him his dark master Darth Cheney would have drank the blood, on the rocks, with vodka, while snorting cocaine off of the original manuscript of the Constitution. They would have used this terrible, unfortunate, tragic tragedy to enhance their own satanic powers of mind-control on their mad quest for world domination.
Barack, on the other hand, gave the order with great reluctance, and did so only to appease you right-wingnuts, thirsty as you are for the blood of minorities. He SACRIFICED 3 of his black brothers to save a WHITE man! What does that tell you about Barack’s character? Those poor boys were a PEACE OFFERING to you vile teabagging racist savages, and yet you still had the nerve to go out and “protest” and place your racism and hate on display for all the world to see!!!!!!! What a bunch of redneck cowards. The country is so much better off now that you mental midgets have been put in your place, which is NO PLACE! I have studied history, philosophy, quantum mechanics, and refrigerator repair, and I know for a FACT that Barack has cried himself to sleep EVERY NIGHT since being forced by YOU to send those innocent starving BLACK youths to their eternal reward in heaven. How can YOU rest knowing how much Barack is suffering over this? Shame on you all.
(UHHHHHHHH!…..oh my head…..what just happened to me….?)
Piracy has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with opportunity, profit, and lack of consequences.
Piracy has been around since the days of the Roman empire. The famous pirates who worked the Carribean of the eighteenth century certainly weren’t Muslim.
I’ve read some replies that disagreed with what Raymond Ibrahim had said. All I have to ask those who disagreed with him is did you read what he said? He said quite clearly not all Somali “pirates who happen to be Muslim are funding the jihad and fervently seeking after martyrdom”. He also provided anecdotal evidence which showcased that some of the somali islamist pirates are absolutely jihadists and are working [ie. funding] other jihadist groups such as “al-Shabaab” who are “the youth” and are “al-Qaeda-affiliated Islamists currently taking over Somalia.”
Nothing Raymond Ibrahim said was even slightly incorrect. His analysis was spot on. So, I suggest those who disagreed with him should stop seeing only what they want to see and pay more attention to the evidence at hand.
“No what you clueless Rethuglicans (my term, I made it up, you can check the Interweb by Goggling It) dont understand is that Bu$h/Hitler would have ENJOYED giving the order to shoot those poor boys. The blood of these young AFricans (BLACK YOUTHS) would have been delivered to him and him his dark master Darth Cheney would have drank the blood, on the rocks, with vodka, while snorting cocaine off of the original manuscript of the Constitution. They would have used this terrible, unfortunate, tragic tragedy to enhance their own satanic powers of mind-control on their mad quest for world domination.”
I always wanted to party with bush myself.
You also lied. Rethuglicans is word-play made up by a rapper named, Bucwheed. Who takes over the satanic powers and mind-control responsibilities now that bush and Cheney are out of work? Do they still possess these powers? or do these powers disappear once they leave office?
“Barack, on the other hand, gave the order with great reluctance, and did so only to appease you right-wingnuts, thirsty as you are for the blood of minorities. He SACRIFICED 3 of his black brothers to save a WHITE man! What does that tell you about Barack’s character?”
He’s a uncle tom? ralph nader gave you ample warning he was one. He does do alot of appeasing but not to right-wingers. He reserves the appeasing for cuban/latin dictators, europe, turkey, and saudi the King while the right wingers are called extremist and receive the shaft of the DHS.
“Those poor boys were a PEACE OFFERING to you vile teabagging racist savages, and yet you still had the nerve to go out and “protest” and place your racism and hate on display for all the world to see!!!!!!! What a bunch of redneck cowards.”
I see you live in a orwellian world. Where PEACE OFFERING = Shootin at US citizens, stealing US properity, and Kidnapping people as harmless and Peaceful action. I’d like to teabag your sister. Racism would be people-like you claiming bush (ie. the white devil)orcastrated 9/11. Protesting because your the forgotten man who’s taxes are being soaked by obama’s fabian socalist government is far from racism. It’s legitimate. A Coward would do the opposite of publically protesting. You tool.
“The country is so much better off now that you mental midgets have been put in your place, which is NO PLACE!”
Obama’s Trillion dollar debt? Obama’s ever incressing unemployment rate? America seen as pathetic and weak all around the world? Not one tyrant respecting obama. Obamanomics being unconstitutional and doltish unworkable economy idea too boot? Obama’s releasing of the gitmo Jihadist? The list goes on and on. Obama and obamabots like yourself are the real mental midgets.You’re all caught up in the cult of personality.
“I have studied history, philosophy, quantum mechanics, and refrigerator repair.”
LMAO @ refrigerator repair. that was random.
“I know for a FACT that Barack has cried himself to sleep EVERY NIGHT since being forced by YOU to send those innocent starving BLACK youths to their eternal reward in heaven. How can YOU rest knowing how much Barack is suffering over this? Shame on you all.”
How do you know this? Where are your facts?
Shame on you for not realzing obama just fist bumped Chevz. He was all smiles as well. I would say he’s hardly losing any sleep over it.
The only way to deal with pirates is through the use of crushing military force. This was true in Jefferson’s time and it is true today. Pirates can’t seize ships if they’re dead. In May 1975, communist Khmer Rouge pirates seized the American merchant ship SS Mayaguez. With quick and absolute force, President Gerald Ford took back the ship and its crew. Although a approximately 18 Americans were killed in the rescue operation, the American container ship and its crew were recovered unharmed. It was a very costly operation in terms of American lives lost, but the communist pirates in that part of the world never seized another American merchant ship. Pirates are practical people. If they know they will be killed if they take one of your ships, they will soon stop bothering your ships and attack weaker targets. This principle worked with the Barbary pirates over 200 years ago and it still works today. But do we have the political will to destroy the ships and bases maintained by the pirates, thereby ending this threat once and for all?
The writer Raymond Ibrahim looks like the native American (red indian)who cooperated with the White settlers .justified their crimes,and then they tortured him and finally was killed.
Zac D: Spot on. It seems that few of those disagreeing even read the article.
Jamil: Please stop trying to mix religious doctrines with race. What Ibrahim wrote has nothing to do with anti-Arab sentiment but jihad and other Islamic aspects, which have nothing to do with race.