What if Romney Wins the GOP Nomination for President in 2012?
What if Mitt Romney wins the Republican nomination for president in 2012?
A vast majority of conservatives become anxiety-ridden at the mere posing of this question, and many go ballistic at the thought of it actually happening.
So a quick visit to a therapist may be helpful.
Imagine yourself lying on a couch in the spring of 2012 with soothing music playing in the background. News breaks that former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has clinched the Republican nomination for president.
Your therapist, knowing that as a true conservative you worked against Romney by supporting (fill in the blank), asks in a soft comforting voice, “How does this news make you feel — angry, betrayed, confused?”
The therapist is insisting that you anticipate your feelings and mentally prepare yourself because Intrade, the respected online prediction market operating outside of polls and politics, is betting on Romney with a 23.9% chance of him winning the GOP nomination. (By comparison, former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty is second at 15.3% and Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels is third at 9.5%. The rest of the GOP field is in single digits. Note: Intrade is a fluid prediction market, therefore percentages change frequently, but Romney has consistently led the GOP field. )
Intrade also pegs Obama’s re-election prospects at 58.6%, but your therapist says she will address those negative feelings in a future session.
This hour she wants you to work through the stress associated with accepting Romney as the GOP nominee.
So in an empathetic tone she asks you to think about the following questions:
Are you going to pick up your signs for Candidate X and go home?
Could you work for and support Romney’s campaign?
Will you vote for Romney in the 2012 election?
What if the polls show that Romney is running neck and neck with Obama?
Do you resent that squishy independent swing vote that is fueling Romney?
Finally, the therapy session is over and you leave her office with a huge headache. You realize you would have real problems supporting Romney as the nominee and even imagining these questions makes you angry.
Can you relate to this scenario?
Mitt Romney is not the same skin color as Barack Obama and so he won’t get a pass for being associated with a racist organization like our President did with Trinity Church, a vile house of bigotry with a formal doctrine of rhetoric that openly says so.
When Romney’s association with the Mormon Church when it was a de facto racist organization comes out together with his racial comments, Romney will be vetted and consigned to the Seventh Hell not reserved for people who look like Shirley Temple who say “I am not a racialist”.
Since Obama had the sheen of Shirley together with a t-shirt that said he loves wheel chair access and unicorns and is against making sandwiches out of babies, he won the Presidency.
Forget about Romney – he’s toast.
I’d like to point out that I predicted this exact template while serving as a deck hand on a Christian frigate during the Battle of Lepanto.
The caricatures of Romney here are truly laughable. It is truly amazing how far people will go to keep themselves in the dark about him.
We know that Romney is not the perfect candidate, but who ever is or was? The issue is we need Romney’s expertise and experience NOW. We don’t need Herman Cain. We don’t need Huckabee. We don’t need Palin. We don’t need Pawlenty or Gingrich.
We need Romney who can draw Independents and blue-dog Democrats to defeat Obama. And how will Romney govern? He’ll govern just like he did in Massachusetts – like a conservative.
So, put away our “flip-flopping” charge, and your accusations that Romney’s faith “isn’t your brand” and start admitting to yourself all of the facts about Romney that make him a great candidate to beat Obama.
They changed their ways in 1978 so I guess their faith wasn’t their brand either.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_race2.htm
My point was: they’re gonna try and light him up.
we need new blood to deliver a conservative message and follow conservative principles
romney is a rino in a couple meaningful ways:
1. massachusetts health care program
2. attempts to please everyone all the time
have we not learned our lessons?
we need to stop worrying about the messenger and how he/she can pull together this group or that group
instead we need to have faith in our message; are we so skittish about conservative principles that we toss them aside at the first sign of resistance
these dino rinos are going extinct and the last thing conservatism needs is another pretender blurring the line between repubs and dems
the most important thing is this election is the contrast between a free(r) market capitalistic/constitutional republic versus a euro socialist/collective behemoth
this is a battle of ideals and if we try to cater to an imagined “center” which, in reality is “left,” then we have played straight into the statists hands
if romney makes it through the primaries and becomes the nominee then i will vote for him versus obama
but let us at least begin the process on our conservative principles and see which candidates cater to US
“if romney makes it through the primaries and becomes the nominee then i will vote for him versus obama”
I would vote for Daffy Duck if he ran against Obama. But Romney would be a better choice.
ROmney will be torn apart by alinsky methods applied by Obama team. He will lose…..poor little rich boy.
His religion will be touted, his “riches” and how he “worked’ for them, on and on…Romney will not win
We need a man of color…any color…a wit about himself, experience and the ability to shut Obama down
I totally agree with you. I would need two therapists if Obama got voted in.
Really? That is all you could come up with?
Those two reasons don’t even apply. His healthcare bill was for the STATE, not federal. And trying to please everyone? Evidently not you. I don’t think his policies ride so well with too many democrats either.
Agreed!!!
Yes.
“We need Romney who can draw Independents and blue-dog Democrats to defeat Obama.”
The problem there Tom, is he won’t draw and Republicans.
I used to be a Republican until Bush failed on securing our border. I’m an independent now, and I would NEVER vote for Romney.
If Romney wins the nomination then the debt rises. If he gets elected The Republicans barely win the Senate and lose both the House and Senate in 2014. He does not halt the slide into socialist utopia, Union power is not rolled back, and Companies look elsewhere to invest their profits. Companies and people continue to move capital and technical resources outside of this country. The welfare rolls grow and a minimum sustenance of about $500 per year is established. By 2016 we become a natural resource colony for China with 100% of manufactured goods made there instead of the 50% that we are currently living with. A traffic in mail order American brides for China and India both voluntary and involuntary is going by 2018 to make up for the shortage of a 175 million women caused by sex selection abortions. Copper costs so much that thieves tear apart American cities.
But all of that is just the rosy scenario. If Romney loses the election the results could be much worse.
I would make predictions too if it didn’t involve the future. (Yogi)
And what if a conservative wins and Myra Adams’ head explodes, will there be any greenies left to hear trees in the forest applaud?
If Mitt Romney gets the nomination there are no acceptable choices and may I suggest a write-in campaign for a Herman Cain ticket.
Myra had evidently been so traumatised by as relentles as severe bashing and a**e kicking she received for attacking Palin that she finally decided to change the subject.
And it is even more evident that it is Myra herself who is in need of a psyhiatrist.
However, if Romney wins by some miracle the nomination, it is more than certain that it shall be not the conservative heads exploding but the American “dicks” getting soft and dangling powerlessly.
I wonder; What is a purpose for such a serious and noble blog like Pajamas to keep publishing those insane rants produced by Myra.
Initially, I suspected that her ludicrous anti-Palin diatribes have been allowed with a full knowledge of Pajamas’ management just to drive the traffic up, as it happens on other blogs.
No i begin to think that Pajamas begins to fall slowly into the gutter…
P.S: Myra, I’d advise you to pay a visit to http://www.conservatives4palin.com and make such a provocative statemant on that blog. I can only imagine a reaction there. He, he, he…
Reagan’s “half a loaf” might’ve worked before when HALF actually meant you got SOMETHING. Myra just can’t face the fact conservatives are now tired of always getting the moldy, rotten, left-over “half a loaf” nobody wanted anyway.
If the Republicans win the House and Senate they will be able to force legislation. Then the Democrats will have to be the ones that settle for a “compromise”. You only compromise when dealing from a position of weakness or neutrality. That’s how you end up with “moldy, rotten, left-over half a loaf”.
If Romney gets the nomination then it is heads liberals win, tails we lose. Kind of like the elections of the last 100 years with a couple exceptions, only one of which won. There is no chance I’ll vote for Romney. None. Save your breath. I might even do the unthinkable and vote Obama. If America as it was conceived in liberty must end then let it be the Democrats who finish us off.
No, Bogdan, ’tis thee who are in serious need of psychiatric help. You just can’t resist attacking a writer who is much more intelligent and talented then you ever will be.
And I am surprised that Pajamas published your obscene rant at all.
You are a pathetic loser. Go ride a kangaroo into oblivian, jerk!
if Romney wins the nod, get ready for four more years of lies,more lies and damned lies from Obama.
Hell,I’m still waiting for Obama to focus laser-like on the economy.
Obama 2012
embrace the decline.
If the entitlement pimp is a Democrat we can oppose him.
If the entitlement pimp is a Karl Rove Republican it becomes very hard to oppose. Then we get.
1. Massive agricultural subsidizes
2. No child left behind
3. Prescription drug entitlements
4. Tarp
With all due respect I prefer to go by the “The devil you know is better than the one you don’t” school of thought.
And honestly speaking I prefer the predictable devil over the unpredictable one.
I have looked at Romney and the only advantage he has is that he is not Obama.
That is not enough.
I don’t want someone who speaks of being conservative then gets betrayed by his own actions.
Or in a word I want an actual conservative. Not someone who just panders to conservatism to get votes.
And if I must put aside what I feel to be right in order to put someone in the whitehouse who I feel does not represent the actual values that placed them there then I’m not better than the wishy washy folks I look down on.
I’m not a fair weather conservative. Good or bad I have nothing without my principles.
Well said.
“I prefer my despotism pure, without the base alloy of hypocrisy.” If we vote for business as usual the GOP will keep giving us leftists in sheep’s clothing. Obama would be the lessor evil vs Romney, at least he doesn’t pretend to be conservative and rob us of any chance for a conservative candidate.
If Romney is a conservative, he should prove it. . . and step aside.
If you think that obama will do less damage than Romney in the next 4 years you are an idiot! Obama will change the structure of this country for the next 3 generations. He will have supremes to appoint and you can’t even imagine what that will do to the country. He can’t keep his hands off of our money, and then passing it around to his friends and himself. I will vote for (even) the huckster if it gets this obamanation out of office. I like Cain, I like Rubio, I like West and would love to see all of them on a ticket. Can you imagine the dems, if we had Rubio and West on the same ticket. They would wet their pants!
Well, if you think there’s a nickel’s worth of difference between Romney and Obama your sophomoric resort to name calling is least of your weaknesses.
Still got your McCain sticker on the car now that he wants to arm the SObs in Libya who fought us in Afghanistan last year?
Is the fact that accepting another neo-liberal like W, McCain and Romney dooms us to liberalism while an out of the closet communist like Obummer can inspire us to fight it completely lost on you? It isn’t about the “next 4 years” it’s about the entire future of our nation, if you continue to give the GOP a blank check then the country is doomed to a somewhat slower, but much more certain path to socialism. Look up “how to boil a frog” sometime.
Goldi I DO NOT know what Romney would do.
I know exactly what Obama would do. He is a chess opponenet who tells you his moves ahead of time.
Romney is a mystery of which I know of few parts. Those parts do NOT make me think he would be much better than BO.
He sure as hell is not a conservative candidate.
It takes more than just an (R)next to his name to get my vote.
I’m an independant. I don’t care if he’s Republican.
Arlen Spectre voted liberal long before he ever switched sides.
That R means nothing when someone is looking for a conservative candidate.
So if that person is not conservative I *will* keep my old chess partner not because I like him but because I know him.
Polls at this stage of an election cycle – well short of the pointy end – tend to reflect media assumptions and bias. This is because the average voter isn’t putting a lot of thought into the 2012 election at the moment and tends rather to “outsource” his thinking to the media. Thus the polls represent the emphasis given to the candidates by the media.
Romney may ultimately be the candidate, if the tea parties take a time out, but I don’t see that happening. More than ever before, the non-establishment, tea party people have a great chance to select their candidate.
I’m undecided as yet on my favorite candidate, but I would like to ask this about Romney: If he is criticized for caving in to the Dems in Massachusetts, who would he cave in to with a Republican/conservative congress and a large number of Rep governors? McCain eventually got the message about immigration. Does anyone really believe that other potential candidates haven’t learned from this that their base cannot be ignored? It is up to us to provide the informed and thoughtful voices that must be heard.
Just what times call for, another social democratic Republican. Someone to raise our taxes, install a VAT to provide new fuel for leviathan, help the watermelons recover from their debacle, and continue down the road to destruction. With the friends the GOP has, it doesn’t need enemies.
I don’t think that Mitt Romney will be nominated, but if he is, then at least I will understand conservative angst with respect to Mitt Romney better than the conservative angst about John McCain, a genuine war hero who had a career long pro-life and fiscal conservative record, who had been a solid foreign policy conservative with credentials in that subject and whose campaign slogan of “Country First” was lived by his distinguished American military family.
If Romney is nominated, I use my time, money and energy to elect fiscal conservatives to the House and Senate and ignore the Presidential election, since Obama will win whatever is done.
Oh, and if Romney is nominated and Bambi is reelected, the Republicans are finished. Like the Whigs. A new fiscal conservative Party will be formed with debt slavery the issue just as slavery was the issue for the Republicans in the 1850s.
It may even take a civil war after four more years of Bambi to restore the country: the productive vs. the unproductive, but it will happen.
Yeah true enough, but this is near word for word what I said when they put up McCain and let Bush get away with his ignoring the laws of the land and his oath, on the border issue, and his radical spending for his socialist programs.
The conservative right is schismatic – torn between the God, truth and morality, first(social conservatives) and the money first (and perhaps more than a little hatred of the God folks) fiscal conservatives.
I see no viable basis for a third party here – and hence, little hope for this “over the precipice” nation.
Social conservatives like entitlement pimps. They gave us Bush and Rove. In the 30′s southern social conservatives were part of Roosevelt new deal coalition.
The republican party formed when the freesoilers united with the abolitionists. I think the tea party is an early version of abolitionists and we should work on strengthening that movement.
The republican party formed when the whigs were weak and the democrats fractured. Today we face a united democrat party that has the dream of an every expanding an all powerful state. No fraction in the democratic party would join a new fiscal conservative party.
Not so sure that’s quite true: oh, no active Democratic PARTY people will join the new fiscal conservative party, but a whole lot of their traditional VOTERS will. It may take a couple of elections, but it will happen.
Yes.
If Romney is the GOP nominee, he will be the last.
I will put all my effort into helping a truly Conservative party replace the Republican party.
Romney has baggage with Romney Care which the media will bring up even if he doesn’t and you know Obama will be bullying him on this issue constantly to narrow the shit gap between Ocare and Rcare. I am sick of this already. Also being a morman will be like being a racist skin head by the time the MSM get through with him. In other words he will go through a total meat grinding by the left and the MSM and will emerge as a new man, the ultimate reacist right wing radical candidate!! A lie to be sure but look at what the big O was able to spin into the presidency-the man with no skills, no capabilitties, a checkered past and suspect birth origin and he still Godlike in the eyes of the press.
Romney is a good man but this is what happens when you fly too close to the sun of liberalism-the wax in your wings melt and you fall to your death, politically that is. The more we try to reach across the isle and the more we try to get along with these nut jobs the worse it gets and soon you are upt to your neck in shit. Which is where we are now. Too bad Mitt. I love you man but take a break.
We need a new candidate who will go after this president and his record aggressively. Tell the public who this guy really is, why socialism stinks, why his foreign policy lead from behind bull crap is wrong, why his economic policies of how stopping all drilling will lower oil prices and how communist command and control regulations create jobs. This President is the worst president in history and the republicans cannot field a “man” to take him on “mano a mano”. That in itself is pathetic but too many of our candidates are the one’s flying close too close to the sun of liberalism. That is a shame at this critical moment.
The media has been blasting non-stop about Romneycare. Everyone knows about it. And yet, Romney continues to gain.
The truth is, ROmneycare ISN’T the biggest issue for Republicans. It’s the biggest issue with the MSM and the liberal elite. They are pissed because Romney is bagging their guy. Worse, Romney is the ONLY candidate who can call out Obama on health care because only ROMNEY has had the balls to try an implement reform. (Name another Republican candidate who has done as much)
Romneycare is NOT the liability that he MSM “claims” it is. It’s just a spin – they are hiding their REAL vulnerability with attacks on Romney.
None of the other Republican candidates can deliver a turn-around like Romney. It’s his expertise – love him or hate him.
Excellent points. Some “out of the box” thinking .
Anonymous
On target, bingo! Fox News has been priming the pump to stop the possibility of Mitt Romney becoming the Republican Nominee in 2012 for more than two years now. The Gang of four, Bill O’ Reilly, Brit Hume Mike Huckleberry and Juan Williams were chosen by some very powerful forces to get the job done and they are relentless with their attack machine backed up by the likes of Karl Rove and an endless stream of bought and paid for Obama shills, including John The Clown McCain, Guardian of our border with Mexico and his amigos, Senators Graham and Lieberman, none of whom ever had a liberal thought that they didn’t call conservative.
Romneycare was an experiment, in an extremely liberal state, where the hand me your stuff crowd forced the issue, led by such stalwarts as Barney Frank. They wanted free medical care and Romney was doing the will of the people in passing the bill that provided it to some at the expense of their hard working neighbors. Now they are finding out that the communist promise always finds and destroys the delivery vehicle befor it reaches Utopia.
Romney’s a pretty smart guy and can easily explain the differences in the Massachusetts experiment and Obamacare. They are legion and would be a useful tool in educating our “new American brothers and sisters” in what the U.S. Constitution is all about as well as the meaning and functioning of a “republic” as opposed to a “democracy.”
The scatterguns aimed at stopping Romney are misdirected. If he is such a bad potential candidate, how about some specifics about things he has done wrong and things he has done right.
How about some mention of the personal integrity that Most Mormons posess? How about the exemplerary way Mormons for the most part take care of their own and raise honest, decent hard working children? How about a look at Romney’s family and how they have grown up and conducted themselves?
How about challenging Romney on his core principles and while you detractors are at it, learn what they are, such as believing in the ability of America to serve as a force for good in the world rather than bringing Her down to the cesspool status of much of the rest of the world.
Who in the field of potential candidates is more in control of the facts of the economic principles that are needed now to possibly right our sinking ship and what would make him or her a superior candidate to Mitt Romney?
For the record, Romney is a recovering Governor. He did not and will not align himself with the criminal political element that is leading to the destruction of the United States of America. You know, members of the “Ruling Class.”
Mitt Romney holds that belief that God and Country remain more important than self promotion, political power for the sake of power and the pursuit of riches stolen from tax paying Americans.
Stopper bloggers, Fox News stoppers and the Main Stream Leftist Media all need to take their blinders off and consider what might be best for their country and the legacy they all will leave behing someday. Their support of our Marxist In Chief for the last three years is something to behold in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
That’s what I think and Mike Huckleberry is not going to change my mind because he can pick a guitar, talk to the good ol’ and God, as the need arises. Another phoney clown in 2012? I don’t think so.
CGW,
“How about some mention of the personal integrity that Most Mormons posess? How about the exemplerary way Mormons for the most part take care of their own and raise honest, decent hard working children? How about a look at Romney’s family and how they have grown up and conducted themselves?”
Well done. But how do you account for 80,000 people living in polygamous families in Utah, where the Main Stream Mormon Church (which controls law enforcement in that State) has done little about it?
Are you really that dense?
First of all, what’s your source for the 80,000 polygamists number? Second, the LDS Church has denounced plural marriage in all of its forms since, oh, the 1890 Manifesto. The Utah AG, Mark Shurtleff, has been on point for years about bringing to justice the polygamists in the state, most notably Warren Jeffs.
Fact is, no one in good standing in the LDS faith is a polygamist. And the Church excommunicates anyone who practices it. More to the point, Romney is not a polygamist. And the Mormon Church does not “control law enforcement in Utah” (except after their meetings, when they direct traffic).
The 80,000 figure for practicing polygamists is conservative. The polygamists practice what the first 2 presidents of the mormon church taught–Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. The doctrine is still in Section 132 of the Doctrine & Covenants–the second sacred book of the mainstream mormon church in Utah. The father/grandfather of Romney were born in Mexico as the child of a polygamist father. They moved to Mexico to avoid the U.S. laws against polygamy. I don’t fault Romney for his father or grandfather’s background. I do fault Romney for giving allegiance to the mormon prophets and to sacred books that preach that polygamy is an eternal principle and to be practiced in “heaven” (the celestial kingdom) by righteous mormons.
In total agreement. Romney’s is principled centered, not personality, is not superficial and selfish. He talks the talks and walks the walk. I feel right about him.
You may be right Chris. But he’s a little too squeaky clean for me. I don’t feel quite right about him just yet. I think he might have been an Eagle Scout….. yikes!!!
“How about challenging Romney on his core principles and while you detractors are at it, learn what they are, such as believing in the ability of America to serve as a force for good in the world rather than bringing Her down to the cesspool status of much of the rest of the world. ”
BINGO! We have a winner! At his core Romney is another neo-con who wants to strut around the world regardless of cost to be the world’s “rent a cop” and “meals on wheels” combo pack.
But guess what? It isn’t the Constitutional responsibility nor right of the federal government to be a “force for good” in the world. Personally, I want a federal government that is way to small to do anything other than those things specifically charged to it in the Constitution. That means ending foreign intervention starting with foreign aid and the damned anti-American UN.
I don’t think so. Chris, what have you been drinking?
I agree with you Ann. The 80,000 polygamists in Utah number is just the last stat I remember seeing a few years ago. Since this is the fastest growing non-Muslim religion in the world we can be certain that number is much higher now.
I don’t blame Romney for polygamy either. But good job on Romney’s ancestry… you know your Mormon history. I do think the Mormon religion is more vulnerable to attack than any other non Muslim religion. And the Left (Dems) will not attack the Muslims…. they are their friends.
Anybody would be better than Obama in 2012, even Romney, if that’s all we had. But I’m still hoping that we will have another candidate. We haven’t even had one primary yet, so it’s a little early to pick a winner for the nomination. And all this talk that Obama is almost “unbeatable” is pure junk. I haven’t seen a president with so many nagatives since Carter. Personally, I think Obama will be easy to beat. Just let his economic record speak for itself. His foreign policy hasn’t been that great, either (getting bin Laden being more of a police enforcement matter, rather than having a firm foreign policy with various nations). I’m sure they said the same things about Carter being “hard to beat” too. Until Ronald Reagan came along and proved that theory was a bust.
All the Republican candidate needs to do is show that he or she is a reasonable and intelligent person capable of dealing with big issues. If the Republican candidate can do that, they’ll win, big time.
This author would have been “more convinving” (/s) if she had simply written
“McCain 2012!”
While I agree that half a loaf is better than none, there is also the growing belief that the Republican party is no different than the Democrats and I think Romney would help to perpetuate it. I also think it’s more important that conservatives take the Senate than the White House. That said, when it comes right down to it, I will probably vote for “anyone but”. There are just so many great alternatives to Romney.
Romney? Meh!
I’m still trying to draft Thaddeus McCotter.
What is lacking the most in this age,where self-deceit has been elevated to the level of saintly virtue, is honesty. Since we all want, and will reward with our vote the best liar who will tickle our ears, we are condemned to have our choices limited to such professional deceivers.
Romney is the least trustworthy, seeking with a wet-finger the best deception, seeking transparently to pretend to have a larger halo and stronger foam pillars than our present Chicago Marxist.
The problem is not with our leaders, or our available choices for leaders, as much as it is in ourselves, that we have as our god, true self-deception -whether it is about hedonism, money, evil enemies, our eco-facism, or our slaughtering of our own innocent human life.
Romney, like McCain before him, has proved that limiting the power of government is not one of his core beliefs.
if (big IF) Romney wins the nomination, people is going to elect Ozero for a new term. Why on earth people would vote for a socialist imitator as Romney when they can go for the real thing in Obama?
will you support PALIN when she gets the nomination, Myra?
Remember, half loaf…
What is wrong with all you people? Elmer Fudd is better than Obama- I would vote for ANYONE opposing Obama. NONE of you make a coherent case against Romney, especially since a coherent case can be made against ANY of the possible candidates. As a Latter-day Saint, I’m so sick of the anti-Mormon b.s.- I could do the exact same thing with EVERY single religious belief that attracts a few thousand followers- don’t think I couldn’t. Our country is being destroyed by liberal fantasies that are fast becoming absolute nightmares- is it becoming “normal” to have almost 1 in 10 unemployed? Is it becoming “normal” for the government to disregard laws about unions/bonds/companies/CEO’s? Is it becoming “normal” that despite the American people’s wishes, government will pass laws such as Obamacare? Is it becoming the norm that the sitting president act like a petulant little jerk publically berating and mocking the US Supreme Court, previous presidents, sitting congressmen? Is it the norm now that our country has been downgraded financially and damaged economically, along with politically around the world? And you guys are fussing, WITHOUT facts (pray tell, what idiot DOESN’T know about Romneycare? but does same idiot know more fully about the whole context?), about a person and his religion? I wasn’t happy about McCain, but I supported him because Obama was unacceptable. All the candidates are less than perfect, as are all of the reader of this site. Geesh, I read this site to get good ideas to think about- this kind of b.s. will cause me to stop bothering.
yes, almost anyone is better than obama
but the main point is the battle of ideology
capitalism/socialism
limited government/excessive government intrusion
indivdual liberty/ equal mediocrity and misery
constitutional republic/ euro socialist impotency
i would feel better if conservative principles were being confidently used to counter the alternatives that the democrats spout off ; more than a battle between Obama and (insert opponent here) this is a battle of ideology
i would feel better if conservative principles worked to elect a senate majority for repubs (and even knocked out some rino senators in the process)
and kept working to elect hundreds on the state and local level ala nov 2010
even if we lost the presidency in proper fashion
in the short term, electing romney would be better than obama but not by much
-democrats would get the free ammunition to equate rinos as conservatives AGAIN
-there would be no real progress against the debt
(dems only hate socialism when a repub implements it)
another problem with a “centrist republican” is the inevitable compromise between a rino and a marxist is some kind of euro socialist solution
much better to have a solid conservative pulling from the right where the compromise would end up in the true center
Sounds like many are going to need the “therapist”. Great article. I feel for people who take Reagan’s words and deeds as a smorgasbord. Pick and choose what you like.
“On February 9, 1983, when asked about people who said he was “moving away from the policies and principles that got you elected,” Reagan responded by explaining that compromise is not retreat: “I’m not retreating an inch from where I was. But I also recognize this: There are some people who would have you so stand on principle that if you don’t get all that you’ve asked for from the legislature, why, you jump off the cliff with the flag flying. I have always figured that a half a loaf is better than none, and I know that in the democratic process you’re not going to always get everything you want. So, I think what they’ve misread is times in which I have compromised.”
Romney comes closer than any other candidate to being as Reagan in thought, action and purpose.
That being said, get the couches ready! Mitt Romney 2012
“Romney comes closer than any other candidate to being as Reagan in thought, action and purpose.”
Wow…thanks for the laugh! lol
Here, let me try one: Reagan was for mandated, socialized healthcare! Bwahahahahaha…Reagancare! (doubles over laughing) Hahahahahahaha!
Good times, good times!
It is my understanding that it was Reagan who signed the bill that mandated hospitals to take care of people who did not have the means for insurance to cover medical costs. Federal dollars where given to States to off the set the cost of those individuals. The trouble is the abuse that comes with “free” anything. The hospitals were passing those costs on to the insurance companys who then passed the cost onto consumers.
The Massachuetts Health Care bill originally set out to take those Federal $$$s, given under Reagan’s mandate, and help the low income population obtain some sort of health care insurance. Better use of the federal $$$ as long as everyone could be insured. The general population would step up to the responsibility of obtaining insurance through their employers or paying for it themselves. Insurance exchangs were created for people to join to get better insurance rates.
Conservative Think-tank = the Heritage Foundation responded to Romneycare:
– Heritage On Romney’s Individual Mandate: “Not an unreasonable position, and one that is clearly consistent with conservative values.” [Heritage, 1/28/06]
– Heritage On Romney’s Insurance Exchange: An “innovative mechanism to promote real consumer choice.” [Heritage, 4/20/06]
– Heritage On Romney’s Medicaid Expansion: Reduced “the total cost to taxpayers” by taking people out of the “uncompensated care pool.” [Heritage, 1/28/06]
To me this does not sound like socialize medicine. It must to you.
Yeah, right, maybe he will give the illegals an amnesty to! Regan also said, that Libertarianism is the soul of conservatism, or did you leave that one on the smorgasbord line? We don’t need another Regan, we need another Goldwater.
Romney isn’t Regan, he’s Rockefeller, a dyed in the wool east coast liberal masquerading as a small government conservative.
he is another entitlement pimp like bush and rove.
“If Romney…” Well it won’t be the first time that I voted a Third Party.
We can choose to be “bitter” or “better”. Bitter is poison for sure.
Voting for a third party candidate is agreeing with Obama. You don’t send a “message” or teach anyone a “lesson” by voting third party – you only make it that more likely that Obama is the president for another 4 years.
This is serious. Not just anyone can unseat Obama. Romney is the only Republican with that chance.
Nonsense. Was voting Republican rather than Whig, a vote for the Democrats?
Political parties sometimes outlive their usefulness and need to die. If Romney is nominated by Republican insiders, it is time for the party to die and be replaced. After the Bush’s, Dole, and McCain, I’m done holding my nose.
seconded
a feature of free market capitalism, hell, a feature of life itself is creative destruction
Exactly. If Romney is the nominee, I do not need therapy. I vote Constitution Party. Or just stay home.
I do not choose between crap-sandwich and crap-sandwich-lite. I choose neither.
“….Not just anyone can unseat Obama. Romney is the only Republican with that chance.”
You’ll eat those words when my cat Scooter announces!
A big problem is that on sites like PJM, very conservative folks can re-enforce each other and build the illusion that a majority of American are close to believing what they/you believe. When others point out the similarity between some of the anti-Christ Obama’s polices with the Compassionate Conservative GWB’s policies, you conclude that you need to go even farther right to get a better candidate, missing the central point that you win from the center, or pretending to be close to the center.
The internet giveth, and the internet taketh away. The far right has a “voice” stronger than it has ever had before, but that voice makes it get carried away by its own anti-moderate inclinations.
Romney’s new meme, “Obama is a good guy, but in over his head in relation to the economy” is the kind of strategy which could win, or at least have the best shot. The “Obama is a muslim, commie, the worst-ever” schtick, as good as that makes some of you feel, sinks, because all Obama has to do is have a few good moments to make it sound stupid and overwraught (see drones, Tucson, Afghan surge, producing the birth certificate and killing Bin Laden.)
Such things do not convince you guys that Obama is any good, but they have a powerful effect on helping the center believe that you guys are loons.
Well?
You are so right. True Conservatives (TC’s) seem to think that their principles are more important than people.
Dwight, define “center”. If Conservatives move Leftwards, the so too does the “center”. “Center” is a Leftist lie.
Moderate Republicans are Left of center. They like big government. Conservatives are just Right of center. We like small government. Libertarians are far Right. They like really small government. Independents are Left of moderate Republicans. Democrats are even more Left than that.
You think you are Centrist, Dwight? Bull. You are way Left. The truth is, most of this country is Left of Center. They think the government ought to do something. They vote for government largess.
You have been suckered into believing the center is where you are. Thus do the Leftists win. They tell you the center is over here. You, wanting to be oh so reasonable, oh so moderate, oh so balanced, go where they tell you to go. Sucker.
The Constitution is the bulwark against big government and its tryanny. Unfortunately, it is shot full of holes and is dying. Its defenders are too few. The country it represents is dying, too. We have become unfit for the freedom we were given as a birthright. Like wealthy children, we have squandered our inheritance.
We are losing our country, Dwight. We are losing it because of people like you, people who think they are Center when they are actually Left.
We Conservatives should become more like you? Really? Oh so reasonable? Surrender is very reasonable. There is always some rationale for surrender. To keep fighting is very unreasonable… unless you have real principles worth fighting for. Then, it becomes not the reasonable thing to do. It is the ONLY thing to do. It IS unreasonable, but reasonable is not what is important. Principles are important.
The Left has their principles too. I do not hear you castigating them for being unreasonable, telling them to move to the Center. Perhaps it is because they do not seem so unreasonable to you, being Left of Center yourself.
Leftists are liars. Moderates are unprincipled hypocrites. Independents are just ignorant.
So by your own admission, apparently 60-70% of the country is left of (your) center. That’s a tough row to hoe in a Democratic Republic.
Possibly I am close to the center of the actual pool of voters with 50% more liberal than me, 50% less liberal (eliminating the 20-30% who don’t really give such things much thought,) but ah, the Malone center; I am apparently far left of that. What does the Malone centrist believe and what determines the parameters? Citing the Constitution with its commerce clause and general permission/mission to promote the general welfare does not give clear guidance here. Let me assert that the fact that we are a country of 300 million with interconnected networks for electricity, water, telecommunications, food networks, serving millions of people living in urban centers, interstate highways, international airlines etc. and the accompanying adjustments has made the center where I am, not where some vision of absolute truth tells you where it is.
I was a non-mormon Romney supporter in 2008 while I watched the Republican nomination brouhaha slide into the ridiculous. Senator McCain, whose record of national service is unimpeachable, seems to me to be too emotionally unstable for an executive position. An executive position is much different than a legislative position, which is why I believe governors and others with administrative experience make better presidents. Romney has that experience and then some, outclassing almost all others presently being considered on both sides of aisle. I agree with CatoRenasci that if prudent fiscal spending is what we want (its what I want for sure), actual conservatives will be more effective working for a Republican/Tea Party majority House and Senate, and an Obama second term might even facilitate that. With a solidly conservative congress a la 1994, he’d have to compromise his leftism even more than he has already. I have a great image of American lefties nationwide cursing into their lattes about Obama’s betrayal of their core principles. . .
I’m a tea party conservative and I think that Myra makes an excellent case for getting behind Romney if he becomes the nominee. He is not my favorite candidate but Sarah and others are right to point out that voting third party is the same as voting for Obama. Romney is not racist or the devil nor will he be worse than Obama as some have claimed. One plus is his real world business experience, another is his squeaky clean personal life. If Romney gets the nod I will vote for him.
“Romney is not racist or the devil.”
I agree he isn’t….but wait till the media get through w/him….the white hood will come complete w/horns, pitchfork & pentagram…..PALINIZED!
Huckabee was the one who led that charge in 08. The media didn’t pay it much attention.
Considering what happened with Bush II in the White House with the largest expansion of entitlements since the Great Society and the largest extension of Federal power into education since Carter created the Dept of Education I would rather have Obama in the White House and a GOP Congress that can say NO then another fake-conservative like Romney who would use his position as “leader” of the GOP to push more Country Club Me-Too policies.
Do you really want 4 more years of Obama foreign policy, judicial appointments, EPA idiocy , and Eric Holder justice?
Given the choice of another 4 years of Obama with a GOP Congress to block him then a real strong candidate in 2016 like Cristie, Jindhal, etc and the possibility of 8 years of Romney I pick the first.
Then you are an idiot! Romney would never appoint the supremes that obama will and that will have an effect on this country long after obama is gone. God help us from these stupid people who think it would be all right to have him for 4 more years! He is killing this country! WAKE UP! I will vote for a snake in the grass instead of this poseur in office. Romney will appoint honorable people to both his cabinet and the judiciary. I would like Rubio/West, but I’m not going to get them. I will vote for anyone, anyone, anyone except that lier who thinks he can say “the wall is built” and we are stupid enough to believe him!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, right.
From: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/220565/romney-second-amendment-killer/dave-kopel
Running for re-election in 2002, he bragged, “We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts. I support them. I won’t chip away at them. I believe they protect us and provide for our safety.”
Romney may not be the most conservative of our republican candidates but let me remind people that he IS a conservative. He is not a moderate or a socialist or a RINO as some mistakenly claim. I may prefer a president with the tea party conservative brand but as Myra points out in her article that may not be an option. Romney may well be the only Republican (whether you think he is conservative enough or not) that can beat Obama. If he wins the Republican nomination then all Republicans have a duty to support him or change their party affiliation.
As we begin our selection process of Republican candidates for president let’s agree on this: Any candidate that our party selects will be far, far preferable to Obama. With that as our basis, let’s now try to get the best candidate from our available choices –none is perfect (Myra isn’t running, after all) so let’s just do the best we can, remembering every step of the way, there is NO WORSE than Obama anywhere and certainly not in our Republican Party. As bad as many think George Bush was as president, he gave us tax cuts, two great Supreme Court Justices –some other good things—that we will never get from an Obama. As bad as McCain was as a candidate he would have been infinitely better for the Republic and our future generations than Obama –McCain’s voting record on taxes, regulations and other growth issues was 97% in the 111th Congress and 83% lifetime. And, who will any Repub appoint to key positions? Not the extremist, anti-American, statist type czars as Obama has done. Can we agree that any Repub is better than Obama? OK, then let’s narrow down the choices we will have in our party, select a good one and join together to back that choice with all we have.
“…then let’s narrow down the choices we will have in our party, select a good one and join together to back that choice with all we have.”
Or Republicans can do it the “old-fashioned way” & let the media pick the GOP candidate.
If perchance huckabee got it (and claims he’s not running are questionable and have been disputed), I honestly don’t think I could vote for him even against obama – he reminds me too much of oabma – right up to the creepy feeling making that puts every sense on extreme fraud alert.
Wrong, Wrong, Wrong! This is exactly the type of psycology that got us in to the same mess last time! All of the pantywasit conservatives went with the horse that they thought could win, versus, voting in the one that represented their political and conservative values, and THIS IS WHY WE LOST!. What would Jesus do? Do you think Jesus would vote for a complete liberal that goes against every thing he stands for? Your vote should count for more than just backing a horse at the track that you believe can win. Your vote should be accountable to a hight power, then leave it in “His” hands and trust the outcome. Oh ye of little faith!
Mitt Romney is a RINO when a Conservative Republican is needs to counter the Marxist Obama; Romney will not win. He will flame out early in the primary. All of the polls showing him in the lead are misleading. You’ve basically written a “What If…?” article, wasting time & space. The ghost of Senator Maverick McCain remains strong so no RINO will win any primary given the strength of the Tea Party.
Wrong, or just ignorant. Romney is not a Rino, zero evidence. Listen to him. Listen, that is why we have two ears and one mouth, it is twice as important to listen then to speak. Romney has many character traits that will win the day.
Myra,
You write a full article and never once mention Romney’s Achilles heel? It’s his Mormon religion that will be his undoing…. not Obama-care. Romney will back away form Obama-care/Romney-care and convincingly advocate allowing all 50 states come up with their own health care plans.
You posters are a disappointing lot as well. James May and Tommygun are the only two who have the guts even to make mention of it. Tankfurdig complains about all this “anti Mormon bs”. What anti Mormon bs? If Romney can get the Republican nomination (and he might if his opponents give him the same kind of pass he’s getting here) the lefties sure aren’t going to back off of it. Why are 90% of you being so squeamish? If we can’t discuss the Mormon Religion in relation to the US Presidency, the Dems sure aren’t going to have a problem doing it. This goes for you Mormons as well. Defend your religion… if it’s worth defending.
Romney’s religion has never been an issue with me. Maybe the reason his religion has not been brought up is because no one cares. And we have to give Romney some credit, also. Why would he run again if he hasn’t found a way to counter any concerns from voters. When John Kennedy ran, his Catholicism was a concern for many voters. I’m not a Romney supporter, but am talking from a point of view if he gets the nomination. Many posters here are concerned about him being a RINO, myself included. But on the other hand, with a Republican House and Senate, he can be persuaded to lean much more to the right. After all, why is Obama so far to the left? Because he still has the Senate.
jarmo,
That no one cares is my point. They should care….. not because Mormonism is as bad as Islamism…. but because it will be portrayed as such by the America Hating, Christianity Hating left. And they will find lots of ammunition in the archives of Mormon History with which to do that. This is a religion that is slightly more than 180 years old and the founder of which was referred to as the American Mohammed. Two years ago, Romney’s speech did not “knock it out of the park” as Kennedy did back in 1960. He has more work to do on this front and if he wins the Republican nomination it shouldn’t be because his competitors gave him a pass on the issue of his religion. The lefties surely will not.
HELL WE’VE GOT A MUSLIM LOVING IDIOT IN OFFICE! fUNNY HOW THE DEMS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT DON’T GO AFTER THAT IDIOT SENATOR DINGY HARRY AND GUESS WHAT RELIGION HE IS? AND I’M ASHAMED TO SAY!
That’s right Goldi. And now we in Nevada have both our Senators Mormon. That’s right Dean Heller is LDS as well. But he’s the good kind of Mormon… a good solid Conservative.
Just how many planes have Mormons blown up? How many beheadings have they done? They are taught to be loyal Americans, to love their country and believed the constitution was devinely inspired. Man you have to watch out for them!
Goldi. I agree completely. Today the Mormon people are a modicum of American values. But 150 years ago they weren’t. They killed hundreds, perhaps thousands, of American’s (many of them Mormon apostates) in the name of their religion. The rabid left will dig this up and use it against Romney.
“Anyone But Obama” will get my vote and my cash and my groups support in 2012.
If you support the status quo by doing nothing to vote out the current administration you will directly re-elect Obama and end the USA’s chances of a sea change.
If Romney had a chance, he’d have been the nominee last time. His money couldn’t even buy him second place, despite what his supporters say. Romney spent more on the primaries than Huckabee and McCain combined, and he lost to them both.
Romney (without a makeover)=McCain=defeat
You should never support Romney and here’s why: As in Massachussetts, he will compromise. What’s wrong with compromise? The policies that our government have been following for decades are leading us to economic and political disaster. When these policies fail, because Republicans have an undeserved reputation as the party of capitalism, capitalism will once again be blamed.
If you were making a bowl of chili with a Democrat, and he wanted one of the ingredients to be a teaspoon of gasoline, you’d never compromise with him and put half a teaspoon of gasoline into your chili, because it would kill you both. Why do you think compromising on larger life-and-death issues will turn out any better?
That’s inflamatory.
Inflammatory. Good one! lol
Between Romney & Obozo, I’ll exercise my right to not vote.
Newsflash. Mittens couldn’t even win a Republican primary in Massachusetts, among those who know him best. They were for him before he flipped, or flopped on most of the main issues of life.
The only people who think Mittens is a strong candidate are his immediate family, and the tens of republican synchophantic “strategists” who want to run his campaign. Self financing is a wonderful thing when you need a job.
Romney, like McCain, is boring. He presents no reason to go out and vote. Independents and young people will stay home. Hispanics, who are Catholic and therefore tend to be a bit suspicious of seemingly unorthodox religions, will stay home or vote for Obama, even though he has done nothing for them. People who hate Obamacare will feel the same about Romneycare, once they learn about it. Voter turnout will be low, but Blacks, extreme liberals, and union members will turn out in high numbers. Obama would win.
Republicans are not playing it “safe” with Romney. They’re playing it “dumb”!!
I don’t know why everyone subscribes to the MSM’s caricature of Mitt Romney. He doesn’t get any love from the media on the far right (read evangelicals) or left. I have a hard time finding any positive press on him at all which should tell you he isn’t a sell out to the power players that run the press and have their sticky fingers all over the government.
Mitt’s success in school, business, non-profit and government demonstrates proven fiscal discipline and strategic and operational success which is just what this country needs right now. If you want to know the real Mitt Romney and not the caricature the media tries to potray read Turnaround, No Apologies by Mitt Romney and A Mormon in the White House by Hugh Hewitt.
The web boards are jammed with salaried DNC and Huckabee operatives that are unscrupulous in their slander. Jim Demint was a big supporter in the last election as was Herman Cain. Since he has done nothing in the interim aside from rasing money and donating it to conservatives this RINO and Liberal label they are trying to paint him with is laughable.
Mitt Romney is conservative I would argue one of the most conservative candidates running. I think we have several good candidates running that I would be happy to support. Herman Cain, Michelle Bachman and Rick Santorum especially but none of them with the possible exception of Herman Cain have near the executive experience and proven track record of Mitt Romney. If the conservative electorate fails to support Mitt should he get the nomination we will deserve the dire consequences that will follow and I will lose a great deal of hope in the future of this nation.
One word.
RomneyCare.
Nuff said!
If conservatives themselves can do no better than Romney types in extraordinary times, then our lesson require another four years. As a man said, we do not want to know how to make Washington work, we want to know how to make it stop.
After one of the W budgets a conservative congressman exclaimed that John Kerry wouldn’t have spent that much money, Republicans wouldn’t have let him.
I want a conservative small growth government. Failing that, I want a gridlocked and bitterly divided government. I do not want a moderate Republican controlled government. Government grows very rapidly under Republican control. Money is spent very quickly. It’s worse under Democrat control, but not by much.
Republicans look like they’ll capture the Senate in 2012. I like that. Republicans in control of Congress and Obama in the White House. They’ll have a hard time spending money. They’ll be fighting so much, they won’t be able to grow government.
Romney’s alleged dominance in the Republican Candidate field smacks of the b/s abetted by the left MSM in 2007 and 2008, with them pimping for what they recognized as the weakest horse, i.e. John McCain.
When the Oxford English dictionary begins to spell “way” as fway”, then Romney might be a valid candidate. Until then, there is still RomneyCare and no f in way.
First and foremost! The government is run by special interest and has become a ‘primary’ function of the congressional and executive PROCESS.
FORGET all the rhetoric and personalities involved in the race. If elected, they DO NOT run the government nor can they change the corrupted process and influences. It is just that simple! Politicians today, represent the special interests who support them and NOT THE PEOPLE nor the constitutions mandates for government.
The corupted government, its gross size and authorities have been granted by the congress’ of many decades and CANNOT simply be reversed by the outcome of any presidential election today….or even congressional elections.
IF a super-majority of the States and the people want significant changes in government and the direction of government, they have ONLY ONE tool at their disposal to clean out the government and special interests who control the government….the constitutions grant to the people and the States to effect constitutional amendments. Amending the constitutions Article I Section 8 Commerce Clause is the place to start to eradicate all the special interests from the government and return all commerce back to the States and their peoples. By doing this, it would vacate boatloads of overreaching legislation using and abusing the commerce clause over several decades. The size of government over time, would decrease down to a reasonable constitutional sized government and authorities. The constitutions mandate for the congress to legislate commerce would be returned to the constitutional intent to legislate free commerce between the many States…nothing more and nothing less.
Then and only then can we have a non corrupted government doing the nations and peoples business according the the will of the people and by their majority votes. Your vote and will, would then count for something…again! It would be up to the States and the people of the States to control all the special interest who would then be forced to bring their influence peddling to the States.
Lastly, it would mandate the Supreme court to vacate many of their rulings that have upheld all the abuses of the commerce clause by the congress’ and the executive branch.
An orderly transition would take no more than two decades to complete and the nation would once more be on the right road and be constitutionally compliant.
If Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich or any old blood good old boy wins the republican primary, it will be the end of the republican party and the start of a new party!
Skip….Your are exactly right though, I doubt many republicans will recognize the fact. With only one slight excetion since the 60′s, the GOP has allowed themselves to be come the party of ‘controlled’ disfunction by the social justice arm of the democrat party.
The Tea Party is NO substitute! They are leaderless and have a platform of superficial radical change void of any reasoned substantive transformation in a corrupted political environment and governmental process that leaves them ruderless…even if elected.
Lastly, polling strongly indicates that much of their platform rhetoric, when the rubber meets the road, is opposed by a strong majority of the people across all party lines within labor and the third arm of social government entitlements. They fail to understand that they represent only a fraction of the GOP and only a nano fraction of the 131.3 million voters (2008) in America.
I think should the Libertatians organize, they might have the only chance of creating a new or reorganized GOP.
It all depends on how Romney campaigns. If he becomes a John McCain look alike then he will have the same result. Before even considering him I want to know how he stacks up to get 270 electoral votes- state by state. For that I need Karl Rove or Dick Morris.
It seems silly for us conservatives to claim Romney isn’t one. He’s certainly as conservative as McCain or Bush. And I think he’s more capable than almost all the Repubs who are running.
I like him. Go Romney.
“He’s certainly as conservative as McCain or Bush”
EXACTLY
EXACTLY, why he ISN’T a conservative!
If Romney wins the nomination Obama will be re-elected, Romney is a liberal who would continue the policies that got us into this mess.
McCain and Bush have never been conservative, McCain is a liberal and Bush a moderate.
At least you won’t catch Romney flying Air Force 1 over New York. At best, you get a fully competent guy with the right values and skill set whittling our morbidly obese federal government into a trim, streamlined vessel. What’s not to love?
Oh – and happy “Torch GW and kill-a-cop Day”, or do they only celebrate that in the White House? You can bet things will step up a class or two with the Romneys in the big house. So save yourself a few bucks on therapy and go celebrate early with a banana split. ROMNEY/CHRISTIE 2012
WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TRYING TO DO TO ME!! I am 50 this year and I have learned so much over the last 2 years about our Constitution. AND NO OBAMA or Bush have lead with the laws in thier hearts. I want a true Constitutionalist for a change. There will be hard times at first but all will be better off in the long run. I WON’T A person from the people not these warped unknowing idiots tha have been being put before us for the last 40 plus years..
One would hope that your “studies” have included how the Constitution has been interpreted and applied for 220 years, not just a study of the text. The Constitution does not exist in a vacuum.
The Constitution was written so that anyone who is literate can read and understand it. But it takes a law degree and black robe to “interpret” (circumvent) it. We’ve had way too much “interpretation” of a very straight forward document, thank you very much.
And what, pray tell, is the simple truth of the commerce clause? To say that the Constitution is simple and clear does not help much when it has to be applied to a complex world.
Excuse me, but relatively simple minds love to glom onto the simplicity of the sublime document and expound on how everything is clear. “Shall not be abridged” means guns for criminals…or not? Can the commerce clause give the Feds the right to regulate, even originate medical care? If they build interstate highways, can they build interstate health centers? Can they send a man to the moon?
A few things.
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Romney is NOT a Conservative. A Conservative would have vetoed RomneyCare, forced them to override his veto. Romney still touts it.
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Myra Adams, the author, has long been a promoter of Romney. She pushes him and bashes Palin. This is more of the same, another trash article by Ms. Adams. Another woman voting with her small head.
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“52. FreeToChoose
It seems silly for us conservatives to claim Romney isn’t one. He’s certainly as conservative as McCain or Bush. And I think he’s more capable than almost all the Repubs who are running.”
Umm, gosh, umm… Bush and McCain are NOT Conservatives. Social Conservatives, sure, but they are not for limited government. And McCain has never met a war he did not like. Your post was breathtaking in its moderate-Republican-like ignorance.
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Romney is a poor man’s Cain. Romney offers nothing that Cain does not. Cain is actually more accomplished in the private sector than Romney, except he does not have as much money. Romney has had his failures in the private sector.
Cain’s only drawback is heading the Fed Reserve in KS. He does not want to abolish it, because he can see the use it has, or is supposed to have. He may not be entirely wrong, and I am willing to consider arguments pro and con about it. I certainly do not want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. We should have that discussion nationally. What to do about the Fed?
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Romney is not the guy. Nor is Huckabee. Nor is Gingrich. None of these retreads will do.
We need fresh blood. Daniels would be fine (but he’s not running). Cain would be fine. Palin would be fine. I’d hold my nose for wimpy Pawlenty.
Because of his foreign policy views (the Prez’s main job), and because of his liberal social views, I would not vote for Ron Paul. Nor would I vote for the other Libertarian, Johnson(?), the pothead.
Please present an example of “Myra Adams, the author, has long been a promoter of Romney.”
I am extremely curious what you present because I am not aware of any.
Wisdom dictates Romney as President. Let us prepare to fight the good fight of defending our Constitution; Romney will not violate it as Obama and most of our elected officials (a good 90%) are doing daily. As an American citizen, a defender of the U.S. Constitution, a hard working American that is sickened by how liberalism is destroying our Nation, how I shake my head wondering how someone like Obama is our President, and the arrogance and laziness of our weak do-nothing Government, many should be locked up in jail, how shameful we are (speaking collectively not individually). Yes the habit of apathy! Creating sloth and ignorance;then allowing for State control. Stop Obama, stop the Unions, stop liberalism, stop excessive taxation. Restore the work ethic, restore morality, restore education, restore the family, restore America.
lol… Jeb Bush, Trump, now Romney?
It seems to me Myra Adams would vote anyone except… Palin!
Oh my gosh. Get real. Visit http://www.massresistance.com/romney
That’s enough…. he’s a heck NO.
RINO is even stretching Romney’s conservative credentials!
Simple, I vote for the Democrat on the ballot.
Fast track to destruction, slow track to destruction, all the same to me, except if we are headed to destruction, I would rather get it done and over with so I am still young enough to help rebuild.
This is important and I can’t wait to see what happens: http://mittromneycentral.com/2011/05/10/romney-to-deliver-major-health-care-address-thursday-51211/
Are you going to pick up your signs for Candidate X and go home? No, President Obama needs to go.
Could you work for and support Romney’s campaign? Yes
Will you vote for Romney in the 2012 election? Yes
What if the polls show that Romney is running neck and neck with Obama? Yes still
Do you resent that squishy independent swing vote that is fueling Romney? No. Uninformed voters who don’t do any of their own research and just do whatever the media says is what I resent.
Those who keep trying to make a political issue out of Romney’s faith are either idiots or bigots. They are on the same level as Birthers and Truthers. Why can’t they find something relevant to talk about?
This election is going to be decided by economic principles. It’s all about jobs, the deficit, and fiscal responsibility.
You’re wrong Doug…. and name calling does not become you. His faith will become an issue. If the Republicans don’t fully vet it now…. during the primary process, the Lefties most certainly will in the General. May I ask…. Are you LDS?
Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face as my mom always said. I don’t understand why any conservative would choose Obama either by voting for a third party candidate or staying home on election day simply because the candidate he prefers isn’t on the ballot. If you believe Obama deserves another four years then vote for him. If you are a Republican who is sick to death (as I am) of Democrats destroying the best country on the plant then vote for whoever the Republican is that gets the nomination. It’s simple as that folks.
I don’t understand why letting a RINO destroy the best country on the planet is somehow better than letting Obama do it. EXCEPT that eventually the GOP, or increasingly likely, the party that replaces the GOP, will step up with a real alternative to an Obama. Whereas if we get another RINO/Big government Neo-Con we get no chance whatsoever of a better alternative.
When’s the last time government SHRANK under the so called “small government” GOP??????
If you continue to settle for what you’ve always gotten then things will not ever get better.
Instead of the English speaking world being divided, it is high time to combine forces.
We face two threats – dissidents being oppressed, for we can’t just sit on the sidelines while that is going on, and the debt that each government, federal or the level below federal, has wracked up.
Until both are dealt with, I submit that those whose politics are right of centre should look at acts of union.
For, where is the sense in dividing resources to fight the same blights?
Call me crazy, but what if 0 decides to take a page from the Hitler / Castro / Chavez playbook and either decides to get the 22nd Amendment repealed, or some other horrible scenario, like simply outlaw elections?
I think that he would try it if he thought he could get away with it. I have seen very little evidence to the contrary.
I do not like Romney either. He might have made a good President in, say, 1988. He lacks the fire, the sense of urgency that we need now. However, I would hold my nose and vote for him, because the alternative is a man who hates our country and all it stands for, IMHO.
I hope fervently that I am wrong, but this could be our last election for a long time.
Before you scoff, consider that there were no free elections in (East) Germany from 1933-1989. Who could have foreseen that in, say, 1928?
So, you’re comparing the USA to Nazi Germany and the Warsaw Pact?
You’ll forgive me if I don’t take you seriously.
Don’t worry. The military is loyal to the constitution.
What happens to this poor writer when Palin wins.
Wins what? A show to replace “Oprah?”
Q: What if Romney Wins the GOP Nomination for President in 2012?
A: He will be subject to constant religious bigotry by liberals and Democrats. We will find out what ‘religious freedom’ really means at MSNBC, the NYTimes, et al.
Jones,
You can’t be serious. If Romney wins the Presidency in 2012, it will be a great victory for religious freedom. Unfortunately, he will not win…. because Republicans are too polite to challenge Romney on his faith throughout the primary process… but in the General, the Dems will not be. At least that’s the way it appears to me.
Half these people would consider Ronald Reagan a “neo-con”, or Paul Harvey, or Bill Buckley. Some of them would probably consider ROBERT TAFT a “neo-con”.
Look, Obama is wrecking the economy. We know from Reagan that once inflation sets in, we can only fix it with a serious recession – and who could get eleceted on that basis? It’s now or never; we had better support almost anyone who gets the nomination.
Just what the GOP needs, Mr Romney… a long line of undistinguished statists, who see liberty as a pawn to be leveraged for State security..
when will they ever learn?
Never… the lessons of the Tea Party have yet to be pondered, but I say it’s time to let the Grand Old Party die an ignoble death
Marco Rubio as VP. He does that, the election is his for the taking.