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		<title>By: Thomas Becker</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/western-liberal-elites-have-made-an-iranian-bomb-a-reality/#comment-450669</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Becker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Winter,

I wrote the same about the easily foreseeable consequences of European &quot;Big 3&#039;s&quot; poor act of appeasement on october 21, 2003, the first time more than 5,5 years ago (http://realization.info/pol/most/4.html). I said at that time, that woold be the best time to bomb iran. Recently I explained why the Iranian opposition against the regime, that, unfortunatly, depends on the opposition inside the regime, will never change the regime, and that it is, hence, another illusion to believe that the iranian opposition could stop the revolutionary guards to have the bomb (http://realization.info/pol/most/24.html). Unfortunatly I wrote that all in German.

All the best wisches!
Thomas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Winter,</p>
<p>I wrote the same about the easily foreseeable consequences of European &#8220;Big 3&#8242;s&#8221; poor act of appeasement on october 21, 2003, the first time more than 5,5 years ago (<a href="http://realization.info/pol/most/4.html" rel="nofollow">http://realization.info/pol/most/4.html</a>). I said at that time, that woold be the best time to bomb iran. Recently I explained why the Iranian opposition against the regime, that, unfortunatly, depends on the opposition inside the regime, will never change the regime, and that it is, hence, another illusion to believe that the iranian opposition could stop the revolutionary guards to have the bomb (<a href="http://realization.info/pol/most/24.html" rel="nofollow">http://realization.info/pol/most/24.html</a>). Unfortunatly I wrote that all in German.</p>
<p>All the best wisches!<br />
Thomas</p>
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		<title>By: Dany Freewest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dany Freewest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Leon. Some more Guardian:
Melanie Phillips: Everything is now illuminated
After watching Peter Oborne’s ‘Dispatches’ programme on the power of the Israel lobby in Britain, the scales have fallen from my eyes. I now see things in an entirely different light. I now realise that the power of this unique cabal is so vast and unprecedented in its truly demonic power – a power given to no other lobby – that both the Labour government and Tory opposition slavishly and unquestioningly support Israel’s military actions and that the Guardian and the BBC have found themselves totally unable to publish or transmit anything other than wholehearted support for Israel.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5544851/everything-is-now-illuminated.thtml

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5543376/britains-least-effective-lobby.thtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Leon. Some more Guardian:<br />
Melanie Phillips: Everything is now illuminated<br />
After watching Peter Oborne’s ‘Dispatches’ programme on the power of the Israel lobby in Britain, the scales have fallen from my eyes. I now see things in an entirely different light. I now realise that the power of this unique cabal is so vast and unprecedented in its truly demonic power – a power given to no other lobby – that both the Labour government and Tory opposition slavishly and unquestioningly support Israel’s military actions and that the Guardian and the BBC have found themselves totally unable to publish or transmit anything other than wholehearted support for Israel.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5544851/everything-is-now-illuminated.thtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5544851/everything-is-now-illuminated.thtml</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5543376/britains-least-effective-lobby.thtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5543376/britains-least-effective-lobby.thtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: John  "birther" Samford</title>
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		<dc:creator>John  "birther" Samford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, back at the farm.  
On a positive note, the Mad Dog Mullahs won&#039;t use their nukes on fly-over America.  Unlike Israel, the USA is to large and diverse to be destroyed by a few nukes. 
The MDM has 2 choices, strategically.  Use a nuke to try and force America to surrender and use a nuke to try and start a nuclear war.  The first won&#039;t work, since the USA has many nukes and has demonstrated a willingness to use them.  
The second is possible, although technically more difficult.  
Iran has no conventional delivery system that can hit the USA.  Hitting any other nation would result in many nukes coming right back at them.
So an unconventional delivery system is needed.  The ol&#039; cargo container ploy.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread318545/pg1

The article is from &#039;07.  The rumor mill says that the portable detector is finished and in limited production.  Not sure I believe that, but it is possible.  Fissile materiel is dense enough so that it is easy to find with scanning radar.  So the chance of the a terrorist group slipping a container with a nuke on it into America isn&#039;t that good.  Moscow is a much softer target.  Hezz&#039;bollha coul load it on a tractor trailer and just drive it into Moscow.  
Of course, then the MDM are counting on some Major commanding a ICBM site deciding the Americans did it and launching.  Even then there is no guarantee that the USA will launch back.  Our Missile defense is designed to knock down just such a launch.  
It would take several such launches, which I find unlikely.  You never know.  
Anyway, considering that I live in flyover America, I have no problems with New York getting nuked.  They can do Chicago, LA and Miami while they are at it.  America would be a much better place once the radioactive particles blew out to sea. I suspect there are millions of Americans that agree with me.
So think positive.  The same pack of Liberals that made it possible for the Mad Dog Mullahs to build a bomb will be the ones that bomb is used on.  Justice at last!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, back at the farm.<br />
On a positive note, the Mad Dog Mullahs won&#8217;t use their nukes on fly-over America.  Unlike Israel, the USA is to large and diverse to be destroyed by a few nukes.<br />
The MDM has 2 choices, strategically.  Use a nuke to try and force America to surrender and use a nuke to try and start a nuclear war.  The first won&#8217;t work, since the USA has many nukes and has demonstrated a willingness to use them.<br />
The second is possible, although technically more difficult.<br />
Iran has no conventional delivery system that can hit the USA.  Hitting any other nation would result in many nukes coming right back at them.<br />
So an unconventional delivery system is needed.  The ol&#8217; cargo container ploy.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread318545/pg1" rel="nofollow">http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread318545/pg1</a></p>
<p>The article is from &#8217;07.  The rumor mill says that the portable detector is finished and in limited production.  Not sure I believe that, but it is possible.  Fissile materiel is dense enough so that it is easy to find with scanning radar.  So the chance of the a terrorist group slipping a container with a nuke on it into America isn&#8217;t that good.  Moscow is a much softer target.  Hezz&#8217;bollha coul load it on a tractor trailer and just drive it into Moscow.<br />
Of course, then the MDM are counting on some Major commanding a ICBM site deciding the Americans did it and launching.  Even then there is no guarantee that the USA will launch back.  Our Missile defense is designed to knock down just such a launch.<br />
It would take several such launches, which I find unlikely.  You never know.<br />
Anyway, considering that I live in flyover America, I have no problems with New York getting nuked.  They can do Chicago, LA and Miami while they are at it.  America would be a much better place once the radioactive particles blew out to sea. I suspect there are millions of Americans that agree with me.<br />
So think positive.  The same pack of Liberals that made it possible for the Mad Dog Mullahs to build a bomb will be the ones that bomb is used on.  Justice at last!</p>
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		<title>By: John  "birther" Samford</title>
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		<dc:creator>John  "birther" Samford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We’ll see a general war in the Middle East with action in Gaza and Lebanon as the mullahs unleash their dogs, Hamas and Hezbullah.&quot;

Excuse me, what nonsense!  Those dogs are already off the leash and going as fast as they can.  As far as blocking the straits, Iran may have the will, but they lack the ability.
Say what you will about the US military, you seldom catch them off base more then once.  Remember the tanker war of the mid 80&#039;s?  The US navy hasn&#039;t forgotten.  The most effective weapon of that war was the mine.  The Navy responded by inventing several new and more efficient ways of dealing with mines.  Iran hasn&#039;t. 
Blockades work both ways.  Iran will be hurt more by the interruption of OIL shipment then anybody else will. An attack on the Iranian nuclear weapons sites will delay the program.  Iran can do F#&amp;K all about that.  They will whine and cry and go to the UN.  The UN will whine and cry and ask the USA for more money.  
That will be all that happens.  Within 6 months, only history will remember. The Usurper will do what ever other POTUS has done.  Say &quot;Bad Dog!&quot; and go back to screwing up the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We’ll see a general war in the Middle East with action in Gaza and Lebanon as the mullahs unleash their dogs, Hamas and Hezbullah.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excuse me, what nonsense!  Those dogs are already off the leash and going as fast as they can.  As far as blocking the straits, Iran may have the will, but they lack the ability.<br />
Say what you will about the US military, you seldom catch them off base more then once.  Remember the tanker war of the mid 80&#8242;s?  The US navy hasn&#8217;t forgotten.  The most effective weapon of that war was the mine.  The Navy responded by inventing several new and more efficient ways of dealing with mines.  Iran hasn&#8217;t.<br />
Blockades work both ways.  Iran will be hurt more by the interruption of OIL shipment then anybody else will. An attack on the Iranian nuclear weapons sites will delay the program.  Iran can do F#&amp;K all about that.  They will whine and cry and go to the UN.  The UN will whine and cry and ask the USA for more money.<br />
That will be all that happens.  Within 6 months, only history will remember. The Usurper will do what ever other POTUS has done.  Say &#8220;Bad Dog!&#8221; and go back to screwing up the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Spindok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spindok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Therefore, the principles of warfare are: 

Do not attack an enemy that has the high ground; 

do not attack an enemy that has his back to a hill; 

do not pursue feigned retreats; 

do not attack elite troops; 

do not swallow the enemy&#039;s bait; ?

do not thwart an enemy retreating home. 

If you surround the enemy, leave an outlet; 

do not press an enemy that is cornered. 

These are the principles of warfare&quot;

Sun Tzu


I think our government does not yet know it has an enemy.  It is unwilling to attack.  Defense will not be effective now.  Bring them home.  The president has left them to...best not go there

Spindok</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Therefore, the principles of warfare are: </p>
<p>Do not attack an enemy that has the high ground; </p>
<p>do not attack an enemy that has his back to a hill; </p>
<p>do not pursue feigned retreats; </p>
<p>do not attack elite troops; </p>
<p>do not swallow the enemy&#8217;s bait; ?</p>
<p>do not thwart an enemy retreating home. </p>
<p>If you surround the enemy, leave an outlet; </p>
<p>do not press an enemy that is cornered. </p>
<p>These are the principles of warfare&#8221;</p>
<p>Sun Tzu</p>
<p>I think our government does not yet know it has an enemy.  It is unwilling to attack.  Defense will not be effective now.  Bring them home.  The president has left them to&#8230;best not go there</p>
<p>Spindok</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was Bush who nixed an Israeli strike on Iran. (I guess the guy wasn&#039;t so stupid after all.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was Bush who nixed an Israeli strike on Iran. (I guess the guy wasn&#8217;t so stupid after all.)</p>
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		<title>By: WestWright</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestWright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kochevnik 2.0 is the new automated KGB-BOT, programmed with the a 14 yr old X-Box player&#039;s mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kochevnik 2.0 is the new automated KGB-BOT, programmed with the a 14 yr old X-Box player&#8217;s mind.</p>
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		<title>By: kochevnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>kochevnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>28@Exactly!:
&gt;Is Kochevnik a displaced KGB? Not too well grounded
&gt;I would say.

Grounded?  What are you, an electrician?  Coming from a chickenhawk I&#039;d say that&#039;s a compliment.  BTW KGB I know will make you run and hide under your desk, calling your mommy.

22@lefroy
Americans have a short memory.  USA threateaned WWIII upon Russia in July09.  She runs around Russian border like a pilot fish cleaning up.  Once the mess is clear, nations will abandon the US dollar and Pajamas chickenhawk wingnuts will wax about the good old days when someone cared about what they thought, or what a job felt like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>28@Exactly!:<br />
&gt;Is Kochevnik a displaced KGB? Not too well grounded<br />
&gt;I would say.</p>
<p>Grounded?  What are you, an electrician?  Coming from a chickenhawk I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s a compliment.  BTW KGB I know will make you run and hide under your desk, calling your mommy.</p>
<p>22@lefroy<br />
Americans have a short memory.  USA threateaned WWIII upon Russia in July09.  She runs around Russian border like a pilot fish cleaning up.  Once the mess is clear, nations will abandon the US dollar and Pajamas chickenhawk wingnuts will wax about the good old days when someone cared about what they thought, or what a job felt like.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Gain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Gain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Is Kochevnik a displaced KGB? &lt;/i&gt; 

He&#039;s auditioning for a White House appointment created by the Anita Dunn vacancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Is Kochevnik a displaced KGB? </i> </p>
<p>He&#8217;s auditioning for a White House appointment created by the Anita Dunn vacancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Exactly!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exactly!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Kochevnik a displaced KGB?  Not too well grounded I would say.

Regardless, the only solace we peasants find is the knowledge that the &quot;Elites&quot; will be starving in the cold and dark while we have food and shelter due to our primitive skills of hunting, fishing, farming, building, and surviving.  It is good to be capable.

And .... who wants to nuke fly over country?  Look out all you blue states, you are in the cross hairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Kochevnik a displaced KGB?  Not too well grounded I would say.</p>
<p>Regardless, the only solace we peasants find is the knowledge that the &#8220;Elites&#8221; will be starving in the cold and dark while we have food and shelter due to our primitive skills of hunting, fishing, farming, building, and surviving.  It is good to be capable.</p>
<p>And &#8230;. who wants to nuke fly over country?  Look out all you blue states, you are in the cross hairs.</p>
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