Western Courts Bend to Islamic Practices
Judges’ consideration of Shari‘a when deciding cases may be the most alarming avenue by which Islam influences Western legal systems, but it is not the only one. With increasing regularity, Islamic practices sway the administration of courtrooms, affecting when sessions are held, who must rise, and what attire is permissible. This trend should not be overlooked. Courts that yield to Islamic norms, even in mundane matters, encourage Islamists and cast doubt on the future of equal rights and responsibilities under the law.
Ramadan. The Islamic month of fasting can require significant shuffling of schedules by devout Muslims, but are secular courts obligated to alter theirs? Some answer in the affirmative.
Muslim convert Mark Edward Wetsch is one recent beneficiary. Charged with robbing 13 Minnesota banks, he objected to a hearing set for July 20, 2012, the first day of Ramadan, and asked that it be pushed back for a month. Though Judge Jeanne Graham initially declined the request, he persisted. Ramadan means “not engaging in conflict and argument,” but rather taking part in “work to reconcile differences and seek peace,” according to a motion filed on his behalf. “Clearly, a contested hearing in which the government is making allegations against Mr. Wetsch and he is fighting against [them] causes him to engage in conflict and argument.” Graham relented and issued the desired continuance.
The U.S. military court that will try five al-Qaeda terrorists accused of involvement in the 9/11 attacks bent to similar sensitivities this year. After turning their May 5 arraignment into a circus, the jihadists sought to postpone a hearing scheduled for the week of August 8, near the end of Ramadan. James Connell III, a government-compensated defense attorney, stressed in a filing that “the last 10 days of Ramadan commemorate the night God — Allah — revealed the Holy Quran to the Prophet Mohammed.” Hence, “these 10 days are the most holy period of the Muslim calendar and are typically observed by fasting, prayer, and seclusion.” Despite having previously ruled out Ramadan-related extensions, the judge, Colonel James Pohl, agreed to a delay. Connell was relieved: “It’s very difficult to pay attention to sometimes intricate legal proceedings when you haven’t had any sleep and you haven’t had any food.” (In one bright spot, Pohl rebuffed a petition not to hold hearings on Fridays, the day of communal Islamic prayers.)
Such Ramadan accommodations are not new. Four years ago, a French judge postponed a trial after a lawyer complained that “his client, a Muslim, would have been fasting for two weeks and thus, he said, be in no position to defend himself properly,” in the words of the BBC. “He would be physically weakened and too tired to follow the arguments as he should.” (Note that Muslims have played professional football during Ramadan fasts, so it is not obvious that ordinary Muslims are incapable of sitting in a courtroom.) A prosecutor denied that Ramadan had anything to do with the change, but others believed it to be the sole viable explanation. Fadela Amara, a Muslim then serving as urban affairs minister, decried the “knife wound” to France’s separation of religion and state.
Of course, scheduling controversies are not exclusive to Islam. In 2011, the Maryland Court of Appeals ruled that a lower court had “abused its discretion” by rejecting an Orthodox Jewish plaintiff’s motion to suspend a malpractice trial for two days due to Shavuot, during which his faith would preclude him from working or having work done for him. However, the decision stands out because many other U.S. federal and state courts have found no abuse of discretion by judges who did not grant similar Jewish holiday requests. If a continuance of one or two days is not automatic, then certainly the bar should be that much higher for a month-long Ramadan break — especially when its religious necessity is far less concrete than the work proscriptions characterizing strictly observed Jewish holidays.
Rising for judges. Standing when a judge enters and leaves the courtroom is a centuries-old tradition conveying respect for authority and maintaining order. Those who fail to rise may be cited for contempt, but some Muslims are challenging this point of protocol.
The most important U.S. case has centered on Amina Farah Ali, a citizen and Minnesota resident who, along with a second woman, faced federal charges of funding a Somali terrorist organization; both were convicted last autumn. After Ali did not stand at a pretrial hearing, Judge Michael Davis warned that all must do so. Unlike other Muslims present, she refused again and again for the first two days of the trial, prompting Davis to issue 20 contempt citations carrying jail time. The defendant said that because Islam’s prophet had told his followers that they did not need to honor him in that way, it would be wrong of her to stand for anyone but Allah. An appeals court threw out 19 of the citations in June, determining that an ultimatum to rise “substantially burdens the free exercise of religion” for her. It instructed Davis to consider her rights under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which declares that religious exercise can be curbed only if the government has a compelling reason. On September 18, Davis reinstated contempt charges but then quickly “purged” them, dropping the penalties. While there are precedents for religious exemptions from the standing requirement, involving Quakers in particular, Ali’s case opens the door for a very different group: American Islamists eager to thumb their noses at the secular legal system. Expect more such incidents in the U.S.
Comparable conflicts have erupted elsewhere. Several radicals later found guilty of shouting hatred at British troops during a 2009 homecoming parade would not rise at their trial, because “in Muslim countries it is a grave and cardinal sin to show respect in this way to anyone other than God himself.” Although the UK is not a Muslim country — at least not yet — the judge caved, acceding to a compromise whereby they could enter the courtroom after she did. Accused terrorists are not big fans of the standing requirement either, as seen in 2007 at the outset of proceedings against nine men from Sydney, Australia, charged with plotting attacks. According to one account, the judge “was not concerned by the refusal but suggested it might not be a wise course of action when the trial started,” for jurors could take a harsher view. The jihadists got their comeuppance regardless: all eventually pleaded guilty or were convicted.
The issue has extended to lawyers as well. Mohammed Enait, a fundamentalist attorney in the Netherlands, initiated a long dispute over his resolve to stay seated on the grounds that all are equal before Allah. Mixed messages ensued. A court in 2008 approved an exception for Enait, but it was reversed. Meanwhile, the bar association reprimanded him, but an appeals tribunal voided it, referencing his “sincere and authentic religious convictions.”
Clothing. Common sense dictates that face veils (niqabs) should not be welcome in a court of law, where security is critical, participants must be identified, and some judges and lawyers use facial expressions to analyze the veracity of statements. Yet none of this has slowed the push for concessions.
The good news is that most witnesses wanting to wear niqabs are turned down, as demonstrated by examples from Australia, New Zealand, Spain, the United Kingdom, and the United States. However, the temporarily uncovered women often are allowed to testify with backs to the audience or from behind screens — an accommodation in and of itself. Also of relevance, judges have been known to expel women in niqabs from public seating areas, with recent ejections in France, where face-concealing attire is now broadly restricted, and Sweden, where safety concerns were voiced at a hearing related to a plot to kill cartoonist Lars Vilks.






Well, while the “radical” islamist were busy attacking the American Consolate in Libya, dragging Ambassador Stevens through the streets and engaging in other acts too terrible to mention in polite company, we wonder what the “moderate” muslims were up to and why they do not speak out en mass against their fellow muslims who act in such a violent manner.
Now we know.
They are busy scouring away at the pillars of Western Civilization that have been erected over the millennia that they fundamentally disagree with based upon their religious beliefs. Not content to contain themselves to traditionally muslim nations, they are spreading their poison wherever they are ‘welcomed’ (that is to say tolerated in the Western tradition of respecting the religious beliefs of others).
We must come to the grips with the fact that while our government declares that we are not at war with islam, islam has openly declared that they are at war with us. And just as OBL could be seen, heard and read to understand that it was his premeditated intent to attack the United States, we just laughed it off thinking that there was no way that a kooky muslim living in a cave could inflict such a devastating blow upon America with nothing more than a boxcutter.
We are going to have to rip those “Coexist” bumperstickers off our cars one of these days, as there is no “co” in this existence. Either we in the West will continue to live under our traditions, or the followers of mohammed are going to subjugate us to live beneath theirs.
As far as this American is concerned, I will live under the Constitution of the United States; as this Christian is concerned, I will worship God and his Son, Jesus Christ according to the Word set down in the Holy Bible.
And in this land, I know that I am not alone in thinking that this is something worth fighting for.
In order for westerners to fully understand what they are witnessing, it is important to understand a few basic constructs.
Firstly, one must internalize how Islamic ‘infiltration & penetration’ is perpetrated upon western society, and specifically in the U.S.
Secondly, it is intrinsic to understand how the left intersects with their goals.
Therefore, please read the following, and learn its lessons well – 2012/09/09/shariah-law-enforcers-continue-unimpeded-westerners-terrified-to-counter-them-the-redgreen-alliance-assures-their-eventual-western-triumph-if-not-stopped-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
2012/07/25/the-muslim-mafia-aka-the-brotherhood-their-overarching-plan-what-it-means-for-americas-future-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
well said Turfmann!
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Works fine for me.
no problem with my Firefox either.
Anyone who wants to live here must do so under our laws. Just as in Islamic run cultures we must be obedient to their laws. Of course that’s why no one wants to go there for fun and why there are so many refugees in the states. Either you live here an obey the laws or back you go, first offense. It is time for us to stop pandering to these people and develop a backbone before it’s too late.
Exactly ! — Our laws and customs were never devised, nor meant, to grant special consideration(s) of any kind to the litigants’ religious affiliations, beliefs, or political views or persuasions. — If the laws are to be applied impartially, this must once again become our principal doctrine. And, we must practice it, consistently!
No exceptions, and zero tolerance of requests for such. If you don’t like that, here or in any other Western country, find and go to another place which you deem more accommodating. Good luck!
We need neither you nor your proto-criminal attitude of deeming yourself above our laws and legal customs based on your religious and/or political beliefs. And, we don’t need your (attempted) “lawfare” powerplays.
Unfortunately, it says much (negative) about Islam that especially its adherents apparently would need to be reminded of this almost daily. — Maybe we should simply stop admitting them to our countries? — I mean, not even as tourists?
the u.s. courts are now under fire from islamist’s? caving to their social mores?
quick, somebody tell the feminists. they have been in control of these courts for decades. heck, the supreme court felt their wrath in the late 60′s and early 70′s and immediately went out and found (from nowhere in law) the right to abortion privacy. now we are all paying for it, literally. who were those last two appointees? oh yeah, radical affirmative action advantaged feminsts? and who has all the rights in divorce court? yeah. preach on.
guess its true how the pendulum swings to extremes.
If you ask the feminist, of course, the most serious threat to all human existence is the radical right Christians. I suppose the Islamists are smart enough to leave the abortion issue alone until such time as they are in control. When I started watching American women defend the hajib and the burka as actually being MORE liberating, I know I’d fallen into some rabbit hole.
Fear of the power of the “male gaze”; feminists and islamists have that (and more!) in common.
Did you forget that Ms. Sotomayor –is/was/still is?– also a card-carrying LaRazza member, in a sense also making her a racist?!
IOW, the REAL issue appears to be that deep and poisoned well of Identity Politics. Diverse groups have been lowering their buckets into that hell-hole since long ago. The resulting, occasional, Affirmative Action splash, which so many found agreeable, even refreshing, has begun to gather firehose pressures, and become hot and stinky to boot.
Worse, we find that the “water” is muddy, slimy, gooey, laced with viruses, bacteria, and decomposing parts of a huge variety of unsavory dead creatures; definitely not life-promoting. — Who woulda thunk it, 40, 50 years ago?
But, that’s what you get when you champion special privileges for special causes and classes, inequality before the law to “adjust” for real or perceived inequality in nature. You get that, when you lyingly (or ignorantly) preach a “Living Constitution” which needs to be “interpreted”! You get more of both. You get more of ALL such gruesome results. And, one fine day, you find some especially rancid creature in that goo, so poisonous as to make the Ebola virus look harmless. That day is now upon us!
Thanks Oliver Wendel, Sonja Soto, Johnny Robbits, and so many others, and the Preses who nominated you, and the Senators who confirmed, all knowing that you would bend our Constitution to their (and your) special issues. Thanks, you corrupt politicos, who instigated and let all this happen, using our undonated money to buy YOUR next election. Thanks, you last five generations of voting dumbells who didn’t care enough to be properly educated, nor well-informed, before you marked a box on your ballots. Thanks all such, for never thinking further than your “next meal”. “Thanks” for ignoring and stepping on that magnificent gift our Founders once sweated over a whole gruelling summer behind closed windows and doors in a Philly before air-conditioning!
November 6th — Vote Romney! Vote Tea-Party Republican, wherever possible. Vote Republican, where not! Bring your friends, as many as you can. — Although no certain, nor immediate, “cure”, this buys us some more time; more time to fight this disease worse than Ebola. We need it!
Islam is not all bad,it is viewed that way by a legal system that is pro big government,anti business and completely anti father! How does it feel? In islamic countries the culture leans differently,and is male dominated.How i wish the thieves in my neighborhood could loose a hand for stealing.Our country is tilted so that the welfare family(such as it is)predominates,a mother holds sway and a man is 3/5 of a citizen!
clamdigger sounds like you would be much happier living in saudi arabia. i will be more than happy to buy your plane ticket
Jaded, clamdigger is right and when/if we have a takeover, everything the Democrat party has supposedly fought for, equal rights, abortion rights, gay rights will be thrown under the bus and the male dominant society will prevail.
I just don’t get why the democrats are embracing this way of life, could it be the republicans are really the party of freedom and justice for all?
The reason Democrats lean that way is because they are liberals. Liberalism is, as one astute commentator put it, a “mental disease.” That is why they don’t understand the disconnect between leftist policies they themselves love and their support of a system that would, if put into place, have them all executed or imprisoned for following their leftist policies. And I am not referring only to those which are highly immoral, but rather to anything that is in conflict with Sharia law.
The tie that binds, is Death.
Death.
They all want YOU Dead.
Socialists.
Anarchists.
Islamists.
Welfare-for-Lifers.
They ALL want YOU DEAD.
DEAD.
Never forget that.
“Islamists view concessions as stepping stones to supremacy.”
That is because it has worked in the past. They took parts of North Africa in small incremental steps. The Muslims used raids (terrorist attacks), they built forts called rabats (cultural centers), and they demanded a steady stream of concessions in exchange for promises of good behavior (always broken). Repeat this process until Muslims rule and sharia law is imposed. The remaining non-Muslims live in Dhimmitude, pay the Jizyah tax, and fave tremendous pressure to convert.
Their “religion” requires that they impose it on everyone else. If their “religion” can’t be imposed peacefully, violence follows.
Andrew Bostom: Universal Islamic Blasphemy Law
Sharia lawfare is just one reason many of us have been screaming about the dangers of Islam for so long. Most of our bright lights in the West assure us that we must work with “moderate Muslims” to have a future.
This. Will. Be. A. Catastrophe.
Irshad Mangy is always in TV. She has convinced the television producers, editors, and TV personalities that she is moderate regarding her Islam (I suppose she is, being an open lesbian and all). On TV she spends her time assuring Westerners that Islam can be moderate, and that our future lies with persons like herself. Well, Irshad Mangy cannot even convince her mother of her highly bizarre and individual form of Islam. Irshad Mangy has a constituency of perhaps a couple dozen Muslims, but millions of foolish Westerners. She is a pied piper, like ALL so-called moderate Muslims, and she, along with her less moderate billion-plus brethren are leading us to our doom.
Irshad Mangy, like most of the so-called “moderates”, assures her Western dupes that “See! This shows that each Muslim is free to interpret Islam how they want! It’s actually a liberal, pluralistic and beautiful religion, and See! Nobody had to be killed, we simply disagreed!” that is only because she can hide behind our Western values of pluralism. She might be burned alive in most Muslim countries, though she’ll never admit that to you.
What towering bullshit these moderates represent. If we accept that there are perhaps a few tens of thousands of “moderate Muslims” living in the West like Irshad Mangy, so what!? These “moderates spend most of their time assuring Westerners, not convincing ANY Muslims. The Western non-Muslim multitudes have already been convinced, but every hour that we wait for these unicorns of moderation in Islam to convince the Muslim multitudes, ten thousand more Muslims babies are born and raised for Jihad. Their very births are an act of Jihad, swelling the ranks of Allah’s army while liars, fools, and morons play their flutes and lead us over the cliff to our destruction.
Freeze (and reverse) Muslim immigration to America NOW. Outlaw Sharia NOW.
These shouldn’t be radical steps, they are sane and as humane as we’ll ever be allowed to be going forward in dealing with the growing menace. Our laws weren’t passed in order to allow a seditious religion into our midst, one determined to subvert and replace those selfsame laws.
Unless we take these steps now, our choices narrow down to the diameter of a noose in the future.
Islam and Sharia are incompatible with the US Constitution. I support a constitutional amendment that clarifies that status.
Yes, all of a sudden, the secular hippie Leftists are sensitive to religion. Curious about the one they chose. Ah, the one that is most anti-American. The list here is chilling.
To Leftists, LGBTs, and Militant Secularists, the most important takeaway about Islam is that they want to murder Christians and Conservative Jews, or at least force them into Slavery under The Shari’ah.
That’s enough to win their support forever.
We live in a country where half the voting base is either ignorant of this stealth of does not care. The same ones who’s most pressing concerns are free cell phones, birth control, baby killing and allowing homosexuals to have gala weddings and adopt homosexuals in training.
The 47% will love Sharia, I’m sure. :/
They honestly think they will.
“Finally, a world without Christians or Jews!”
Not gonna happen….we’re armed.
Even the Japanese knew that invading the US was a losing proposition.
A loaded weapon behind every bush.
When Islamic courts bend to Western practices…
“Standing when a judge enters and leaves the courtroom is a centuries-old tradition conveying respect for authority and maintaining order.”
In other words, it helps you to remember that you are a lower class citizen that must yield to the absolute authority of the State. It is unconstitutional and the fact that there is any kind of penalty that can be given for it should disgust limited-government individuals.
But oddly it doesn’t. That’s because the Constitution is a higher law than any judge alone can make up or search out from worlds away. The fact that there are touchy/feely judges or mush-headed judges or good judges who just make mistakes doesn’t change that. Why does that wrap you so much around the axis, er axel?
If standing up when a judge enters enhances respect for our rule of law, sadly under great strain with our present administration, then it is well worth it.
Nothing in the Constitution addresses the issue of rising in court at all, and to my knowledge the USSC has never made any kind of ruling on it. I’m going through the Bill of Rights in my head and nowhere in there do I recall anything about the right to remain seated.
Remember, “unconstitutional” isn’t just a synonym for “things you don’t like”. Using it that way is the liberals’ game, we shouldn’t emulate them.
Muslim Obama sitting in the White Mosque and other Western leaders
apologized profusely for a movie to the world’s Muslims and
continually grovelled before Muslims. It was quite irrelevant to Obama
and other merciless Western ruling elites that the Muslims barbarically
murdered the U.S. ambassador and other non-Muslim innocents.
Muslim Obama and Western leaders are extremely DELIGHTED to use the
movie as an excuse to DESTROY our freedom of speech and implement
Islamic sharia blasphemy laws.
Barack Hussein Obama told the UN General Assembly: “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”
One blogger stated: I consider that statement a death threat to me and all anti-Islam
bloggers, authors, and activists by the President of the United States…
When DECEIVER, Emperor Barack Hussein Obama declared: “The future
must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” he meant
the future must not belong to those who tell the TRUTH about Islam.
Obama isn’t a Muslim, and it’s foolish to continue calling him one. It only makes you sound crazy.
Not only that, but calling him a Muslim is completely unnecesscary. His actual religion, based on two decades of public adherence, is a racist, paranoid and anti-American version of Christianity. His actual religion, his belief in which cannot be disputed, is if anything WORSE than Islam. So why not spend your energy calling attention to that instead?
I agree that he’s not a Muslim, however, what he is, is something hard to grasp.
Much like Jeremiah Wright or Louis Farrakhan, he’s something (a Black Liberation Theologist) that’s taken what’s simultaneously both Christianity and Islam in some ways, while actually being neither.
Obama is steeped in and highly sympathetic to Muslim culture and society through his upbringing, and he feels it’s his duty to “be their keeper” and bring their society to an equal level to those of non-Muslims.
Knowing that he can’t raise their cultures (which actively resists enlightenment, because Muhammad was “perfect”, and therefore they must strive to be perfect copies of Muhammad), he instead must destroy ours.
Applying Liberation Theology to the Islamic World’s inability to become a more civilized society makes Obama all the more frightening.
Nah, he is. Wright’s church is affiliated with Farakhan. No real religious leader would ever associate with another religion the way they do for fear of putting their followers on the wrong path yet Wright continously defers to Farakhan. In fact there are churches throughout the United States in which Farakhan message is preached and called exciting.
Welcome to Friendship Baptist Church, the Nation of Islam front. It was just made for Obama.
Aside from his “black liberation theology”, the one thing in common with all its members and the festering pustule that is islam is anger. They foment anger and many of them just come by it naturally.
And they want “justice” to appease their anger though doing so will never alleviate same. They remain angry and their anger shifts from one thing to the next and back again in the blink of an eye. Thus the obamanian “The cops acted stupidly” and “Jackass” remarks when things were not to his liking.
His own party doesn’t like to engage him because he becomes arrogant, petulant and displays his ignorance with beaming pride, always assuming he’s right.
Even those of the true left-wing religion don’t like dealing with him. But then, they usually don’t much care for each other at all. But it becomes obvious to even the most casual observer that he is as popular as a fart in an elevator when it comes to most things. It’s not just the conservatives who dislike him, it’s his own party and when they see that he has been fired, they will be throwing him under the bus with passion.
It’s not the ideology that’s flawed, as they see it, it’s the ideologue. And they will continue to search for the correct “hero” without realizing that no such benevolent benefactor exists. Humans are deeply flawed, but a wise human can select people with particular talents to balance out and cancel out their own weaknesses and lackings. Socialists never see this.
But, there are still more of us than there are of them. They just make more noise.
Being devoutly religious means subordinating yourself to something greater. I see no evidence that Obama is capable of such belief. He worships at the Church of Obama. He even defined sin as going against this beliefs. He’s not Muslim, Christian or anything other than an Obamist.
Exactly. He seems to be a narcissistic Obamolater.
@Adina probably hit it perfectly with “…‘infiltration & penetration’. Most all of Africa is now Islamic and it started 60 yrs. ago with Christian missionaries being murdered and villager’s forced to Islam.
Sometimes I wonder where is the outrage of Christians being killed around the world & just no news coverage and now it’s coming to America. Need to read this book out about average Americans taking a stand against federal tyranny who is trying to force each of us to accept a new religion. It happens with infiltration & penetration” & over time so I recommend it. http://www.booksbyoliver.com
For most of us we see what is happening, but they are focusing on our children and they don’t understand and do accept what they hear on TV. Great article.
So much for equal protection. All of us who are required to abide by different standards by virtue of not being Muslims should sue because OUR rights are being abridged.
Everyone should read, THE COMING: A TRUE STORY OF HORROR. You can get it at amazon.com. John Daniels is one of the few who has the courage to tell what Islam really is.
Islam is the World’s biggest bully. So ask yourself why the West proclaims to be against bullying, even fake bullies, but supports the one true and biggest bully Islam. Something evil this way comes…a lot of evil already well entrenched here!
Islam is Leftism’s last, only hope of being able to kill (yes, literally kill) off its opposition.
Sooo, how to deal with a bully?
DON’Ts : Don’t discuss. Don’t talk. Don’t even argue. He’ll insist, sooo
DO’s : Do ENGAGE: Solid Right (to his face)! No other ROE’s required. (Cracked knuckles WILL heal. Really!)
BELIEFS: One only: He goes AWAY. Really, he does! Forever!
(Just my 2 cents’ worth of life’s experience, from childhood – adolescence: 5 times it worked, 0 times failure. Stand your ground, attack, be done, be free!)
The only language Muslims understand is Death.
So give it to them. Give them all the Death they could ever dream of.
Dhimmitude, as warned by Bat Yeor in her book is here & look at Europe to see how terrible it is when our govt sells us out.
In terms of the showing of respect for Judges, the Trial of Williams Penn and Mead in London, 1670, should serve as the standard for what level of tolerance for religious views of the status of the Judge in re all other people in the courtroom. In that case a difficult and intolerant Bench of Judges jailed the two Penn and Mead for contempt because their Quaker religious practice at the time meant they could not doff their hats when the Judge entered. Therefore our Judges, in order to better upon that bad example, should allow a tolerance for the clearly established practices of a religious sect, to the extent possible. And yes, in my view, that would include tolerance for the religious holidays, including the month long Ramadan.
The word “terrorist” has been removed from the language in our PC White House…All training documents and videos have been pulled or redacted if they could be construed as “offensive to Muslims”…The Muslim Brotherhood once called a terrorist organization by our gov’t, now governs Egypt and comes and goes freely from our White House…The Commander-in-Chief lies about terror attacks, yet he rushes to Libya to remove Quadaffi and ignores Congress in the process, while he ignores the slaughter happening in Syria…Something is very wrong in our White House,..very wrong indeed.
There are 80 boxes of documents related to The Holy Land Foundation Trial…This is about terrorism on our shores and the funds to do so!
The Obama Administration and Atty General Eric Holder have released documents to those “terrorists on trial”…BUT, they will not release them to our Congress! Meanwhile, we have The Muslim Brotherhood running Egypt and visiting our White House…Something is very wrong here! Write your Congressional Leaders and DEMAND this Information be released!
Likewise I would exempt Jews from trails that overlap the period from Eruv Yom Kipper through Simchat Torah, a period of 24 or 25 days.
Liberty and Islam CANNOT co-exist. Mosques should NOT be allowed to be built in the USA because the Koran teaches conversion or death to “infidels”. That is an act of force which threatens my life, liberty, and property. Religious freedom only applies to beliefs that do not teach or condone the violence against personal freedom of others.
Islam is a political dogma couched in a “religion”.
It’s tenets are an anathma to the Constitution of the US.
Any judge that bends to the tenets of Islam should be tarred, feathered and deported to the lands of Islam.
When the judiciary is no longer respected by the people, the Republic is lost.
Civil war is inevitable.
There will be a Constitutional Republic fighting the United States of Depravity.
Under the supreme law of our Constitutional Republic religious freedom CAN ONLY apply, by any system of logic, to beliefs which do NOT advocate abolishing the rights guaranteed by that same supreme law. No other law can be deemed superior to it. That includes any (and all) religious rules and laws, most especially those of a religion like Islam, which considers itself at once a spiritually, as well as a secularly and culturally, superior system of rules.
It is either Islam or the Constitution. Our citizens need to grasp that fact, and decide and act accordingly.
Key to the above was the word “guaranteed”: Our Constitution was framed to GUARANTEE the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, by limiting the scope and power of potential governmental intrusion upon and interference with any individual’s discretion respecting the particular form chosen for his pursuit.
The actual rights, however thus guaranteed, therefore are deemed to PRECEDE the Constitution. They were regarded as the UNIVERSAL RIGHTS of MAN, UNALIENABLE to each and every member of the species, given by “God, or nature’s God”. This is a profoundly essential philosophical conception which Islam would negate in its entirety, to be replaced by — the rules of Islam.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness by each individual, according to his own recipe, so long as he/she does not by initiation of force prevent others from doing likewise. Islam, however, would do exactly that -initiate force- to compel “submission” (its very name) to its particular set of, more specific and limited, rules.
So, it has to be one or the other: Our Constitution or Islam. The one guarantees universal freedom and liberty. The other requires universal submission while guaranteeing — exactly nothing — except death or slavery to those refusing to submit; in the name of “peace”, of course. (That’s what they all say, always. History proves otherwise.) Choose wisely!
If I were a woman and wanted to wear a mini skirt and tube top while walking down the street in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, I would probably be arrested, beaten, and thrown out of the country (assuming I was a foreigner; if I was a Saudi Woman, I’d either be stoned or beaten to death). Yet when these lowlifes and barbarians come to our country, we are to conform to their standards and not the other way around. So much for “tolerance” coming from the Muslim world. I wonder why we bother listening to them at all in OUR COUNTRY. If you’re in America, you follow American law. What is so hard about that? If you listen to the ACLU types, I guess lots.
The reason socialists dance with the devil of islam is because it pisses off the conservatives. This is the foundation of their emotional self-gratification. They love it when they pretend to “engage in discussion” with the representatives of islamic evil because it grates so on the nerves of us who would rather enjoy freedom and capitalism.
The socialists’ and islamists’ beliefs overlap in that they love complete power over the people in order to run things. The fact that both of them have diametrically opposed social constructs is immaterial at the moment for both believe they will eliminate the other when the time comes. But the socialists in this country figure they’ll be able to rally the troops to do so when they need them, banking on their “racism and hatred of islam”. They may be right.
But they also are playing with fire as shown by the events in North Africa. They have no more control over the muslms than they do over the weather, something else they foolishly believe can be “controlled by man”.
It’s intellectual arrogance on parade. They both walk around as if they are the big shots, not realizing that their days really are numbered and people really are fed up. But history has also shown that if the “leaders” are just benevolent enough and get the people to toe the line, they can last a good while so long as they keep control of everything. So it’s a life of paranoia, diktats, bodyguards, food-tasters, moles, spies everywhere and severe torture for the ones who decide to go their own way.
The human mind is capable of thinking up some very serious harm to fellow humans, and even while actually believing they are “protecting mankind”.
This is why they hate the United States and the West so much. Free people, saying the things they feel, printing what they wish without fear of reprisal. A free society, as demonstrated by THE VIDEO allows us to make fun of anything and everything. Yet, even here, those who make fun of Blow-bama are labeled racists. If you disagree with the socialist agenda, you’re somehow deranged.
So the seeds planted by the socialist teachers in public schools have done their dirty work and self-reliance, independent thought, individualism is now considered evil. Ironically, the teachers subscribed to the Cloward Piven strategy and simply tailored their syllabi to use those very words while teaching the exact opposite. IOW, “self-reliance” means who to turn to to get help. “Independent thought” means finding out what the socialist narrative is and parroting that. “Individualism” means doing what all the other socialists are doing.
They have mastered it. They market it every stinking day in the media to meet the goal of national socialism. Only the enemy now is not a minority..the enemy is white, straight, Christian males.
Muslims hate them too. Another irony: Non-practicing Jews who support “Palestine” have no idea how quickly one of them would cut their head off to satisfy their rage.
FINALLY! Somebody gets it!
Well, everyone is missing the point. The reason Islam is being brought to the west is to help change culture. Illegal aliens are used the same way.
In the New Age there are only rights the State gives. There are no G-d given rights. So, bending over to Islam is part of the agenda to limit freedoms.
I now exercise my God given right, as declared in our Declaration of Independence and Constitution.
My wish is for a great plague to come to the lands of Islam; to foul the water and end the scourge of the Koranimals upon the earth.
Obama is a Muslim.
He was indoctrinated in grade school in Indonesia.
Once a Muslim, always a Muslim.
The tenets demand lying about it as a means to further the caliphate.
Dumbass judges need to grow a pair and say “If you don’t like our laws and society, then go back to whatever Third World nightmare you came from. ”
End of story.
Any judge who rules by Islamic sharia law should be immediately and permanently removed from the bench. Judges who rule by sharia are REJECTING our superior laws and are no longer fit to judge. How dare these judges overturn our laws!
ALL people must have human rights, and
ALL people must have equality before the law.
These beliefs are the opposite of sharia.
Islam ” The Religion of Peace “. This is why American Laws for American Courts ( ALAC ) are so important. The founding fathers never put anything about it in The Constitution because they never considered how common sense would be become so uncommon in the future.
Where Islam goes and Sharia Law is followed, Freedom goes away.
“ An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last “. ~ Sir Winston Churchill.
The Founders obviously at the time were not specifically thinking of Islam as the coming special case or problem, but they did believe to have plenty in our Constitution to guard against something like it:
The 1st Amendment clearly states that “Congress shall make NO law regarding religion, or the free exercise thereof…” We can safely consider that to mean that no special religious preference, deference, or rejection by, of, or for ANY religion was to be permitted in the future United States of America. NOT ANY!
This becomes especially significant when we consider the 2cnd paragraph of Article 6, which states: (much paraphrased) “This Constitution, and all of the laws which shall be made thereon, shall be the SUPREME law of the land, … and binding upon all jurisdictions and for all judges, federal or state…”
It is so obvious, from such wordings, that the Founders were more concerned with safeguarding the rights of the individual, above those of any state, even above the entire union of states. Would hold true even without studying the Federalist Papers. The Rights of Man are key to understanding the Constitution, and especially the 1st, 9nth, and 10th Amendments make that plain as day. Fundamentalist Islam has no legal leg to stand on, not under our Supreme Law, being merely one of many religions required to submit. WE MUST INSIST !
I, for one, fail to see how any logic can take these two Constitutional injunctions and derive any special rights, treatments, privileges, or considerations for any particular religion, in or out of a courtroom! Obvious conclusion: Babtists, Jews, Methodists, Mormons, Muslims, Atheists, Catholics, Buddhists, Lutherans, Hindus, Shintoists, etc., and even the Polynesian Cargo Cults, are NOT ENTITLED to any special treatment, pro or contra, by our laws or before our courts.
(A Judge MAY, at his personal discretion, grant an exemption in case of a special hardship of which he is convinced, as it were as a “courtesy”, but he cannot be compelled to do so, and it cannot be demanded, and it cannot be automatically considered a litigable precedent, if once granted. That INCLUDES NOT BECOMING a special line-item of any Rules of Procedure, Federal and State.)
This, in my view, would be a direct and literal APPLICATION of our Constitution, as opposed to one of the more or less cockamamie “interpretations” we have been saddled with ever more frequently for the last century and a quarter. The Judge’s job is to APPLY the law; the legislatures’ is to make law. Both are required to abide by the Constitution, our supreme law. That includes the negation of religious beliefs or political persuasions of any kind as the basis for legal argument, or even a factor in legal decisions! What could be simpler, among honest people? Is that the problem?!
The request for delay made for Mark Edwart Wetsch strikes me as allowing astrology to rule court proceedings. The reasoning given in his argument for postponement reads right out of a daily astrology forecast.
The ruling for delay for Mark Edward Wetsch strikes me as allowing astrology to rule court proceedings. His reasons read like they were right out of a daily astrology forecast.
Do you suppose all those on the liberal left have any idea what “sharia law” will do to/for them?
They don’t think that The Shari’ah can be applied to Atheists.
“THE JOYS OF THE COMING SHARI’A”
[BIG CHANGES FOR AMERICA!]
[Part 1: Where the older, wiser heads try to talk to the kids]
As a kind of a “public announcement”
Just a “heads up” for inquiring minds,
Perhaps we could “talk” for a minute,
‘Though we know you have so little time.
There are game shows to watch;
And those sports—What demands!
You could spend your whole life on TV
And hey, girl, who’s the hottest?
What’s the latest? Is it true what they said?
“Staying hip is much harder than it seems!
[Part 2: Where the idle young tell us to get lost]
Well, we were all set for some silly election,
That we knew that Obama would win,
When those guys from the East got all crazy,
‘Cause they claimed that our movies were “sin”
Would they “cool it”, take a “chill pill”,
Or just “go with flow”? No, they went nuts!
Killed our guys, burned our flags, yelled all day!
All that sneering and strutting didn’t matter so much,
We just figured they’d just go away.
Then…their preachers said: “There’s hell to pay!
Now, you KNOW we are hip with religion–
“Live and let live” is our thing,
But the stuff they were screaming on Prime Time TV,
Was a “little bit much”, doncha think?
Still, we’re sure we can renounce the faith of our past,
After all, we’d “THE WON” as our God.
He was sexy and smart (with that teleprompter thing)
Every time that he spoke, we were AWED!
So if the MEDIA, and the STARS, and “Our Man”
Say “It’s cool”—we can quickly embrace a new law!
[Part 3: Where we make "one last effort" to educate the clueless]
Well, to get your new groove, we’re preparing
You now, to get this “great future” on track.
For the girls, it’s remarkably simply,
You can have any Burka that’s black!
True, you’ll not have the time to “keep current”
‘Cause your man keeps you flat on your back!
Now you guys may get fit with a collar,
Although “gelding’s” been known to occur.
Still, we hope that you won’t swear or holler,
Cause those penalties get more severe.
[And be very, very sure you’re not queer!]
Well, “To hell” as they say, “With our worries!”
After all, you just haven’t a clue,
That YOUR vote could change your “government” life,
For to be pampered and worshipped’s your due!
Drink that Kool-Aid; live with Mom;
Watch that “aid” roll on in
“Julia’s life” is the best to be found!
Then prepare, really fast, to switch sides on the fly,
Cause’ when Shari’a comes round, it’ll take us all down,
And there’s no place that you’ll ever hide.
O.K. So, even assuming ANY of the above matters, surely there is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ROMNEY & OBAMA ABOUT SHARI’A LAW; DEFENDING AMERICA’S RIGHTS; FREEDOM OF RELIGION, ETC. RIGHT…RIGHT?
See: http://www.americanthinker.com…
10. Islam commands that drinkers and gamblers should be whipped.
[So much for "fantasy football"--ouch]
9. Islam allows husbands to hit their wives even if the husbands
merely fear highhandedness in their wives. ["War on Women"--you've no idea]
8. Islam allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge—physical
eye for physical eye. [Boy, THAT solves our "tort lawyer" problem QUICK!]
7. Islam commands that a male and female thief must have a hand cut
off. [New growth industry: PROSTHETICS--JOBS OF THE FUTURE TODAY]
6. Islam commands that highway robbers should be crucified or
mutilated. [California's highways WOULD REALLY BE DEPRESSING THEN]
5. Islam commands that homosexuals must be executed. [Shush--No gays here, nope, not a one, no, no no]
4. Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to
be stoned to death. [That "hook up" thing you got now? GONE OVERNIGHT
3. Islam orders death for Muslim and possible death for non—Muslim
critics of Muhammad and the Quran and even sharia itself. [Hey, we LOVE the new scheme, LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT!]
2. Islam orders apostates to be killed.
1. Islam commands offensive and aggressive and unjust jihad. [Overpopulation--Solve it instantly! "Redistribution" is just getting us ready for the "main event"]
F*ck bowing to sheria law. I’m sick of my gov’t officials cowtowing to another philosophy that is not the U.S. Constitution. If Mohammadians don’t like our laws they can return to the land of sand and oil and eat that shite.
“Finally, no discussion would be complete without mentioning Cheryl Bormann… She requested that the court order modest dress for all women participating in the Gitmo legal process — “out of respect” — so pious terrorists are not compelled to look away “for fear of committing a sin under their faith.””
Sieg Heil Bormann! (Sie ist eine gute islamische nazionalsozialistische Partei Mitgliederin.)