Was It Something We Said?
Just about a month ago we were in the Visitor Center in our nation’s capital hosting a public forum on domestic terrorism, Islamic radicalism, and the threat of shariah law within the United States. The Heritage Foundation, the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, and the Westminster Institute co-sponsored the event with our radio station WMAL and helped assemble a distinguished panel of foreign policy, military, and legal scholars.
With the ongoing upheaval in the Middle East and the forthcoming Congressional hearings scheduled by Homeland Security Committee Chair Peter King on the extremely controversial subject of radicalization within the American Muslim community, the meeting could not have been better timed. Not surprisingly, the auditorium was filled with listeners to our morning radio show, The Grandy Group, who had been following our regular reports on Islamic extremism for the last several months.
The hour and a half panel discussion was lively and informative and was over much too soon for the audience who left the theater wanting more. We adjourned the meeting with the strong sense that we had struck a nerve in the public conscience. The cumulative effect of the Fort Hood massacre, the Christmas Day and Time Square bomb attempts, and the efforts to erect a huge Islamic Center at Ground Zero in Manhattan had left many Americans feeling insecure in their own country and mistrustful of their public officials.
The attorney general of the United States had refused to acknowledge any connection between the murderous actions of Major Nidal Hasan and calls for violent jihad preached by radical imams over the internet and in mosques throughout the United States. The director of national intelligence had demonstrated his own lack of it by testifying that the Muslim Brotherhood was a “secular organization,” a statement he later recanted. And the slings and arrows of Islamaphobia were already targeting Congressman King, who had yet to call his first witness. Our audience was clearly fed up with political correctness and nostrums of multiculturalism. They wanted an open and uncensored discussion on the spread of Islamic extremism and we pledged to give it to them.
Two weeks later we were off the air.
Despite the consensus of the panel participants and the audience that the forum was an unqualified success, station management was strangely reserved when we returned to work. In fact, we were told we needed to “tone down” the Islam stuff. At the time the Islam stuff amounted to periodic reports from experts in law enforcement and Middle Eastern politics usually on Friday for a-20 minute segment between 8 and 8:30 am. In a broadcast week that spans 20 hours (Monday through Friday, 5 to 9am), this did not seem like an excessive emphasis, particularly on a subject which almost always lit up our call-in lines and spawned numerous emails during and after the broadcast.
To this regular component we added stories during the week that we would have ordinarily covered during any broadcast day. This would include the developing situation in Egypt and Tunisia as well as any relevant statements by the president or members of his cabinet. In addition, as a way to gin up interest in our Capitol Hill event we added a very short segment once a day during the week of the forum, called “Islam for Dhimmies.” In the ideology of jihad, dhimmitude refers to the status of vanquished non-Muslim populations, a second- class citizen status not completely unlike the Jim Crow laws that materialized in this country after the Civil War.
These pieces were never any longer than 3 minutes and were designed to show how our nation’s slavish devotion to multiculturalism was beginning to undermine basic freedoms. It would be difficult to assess whether they had any impact on our show’s popularity since they lasted a sum total of four days.
Of course, any broadcast entity has the absolute right to edit the content of their programs. So when station managers told us to tone down the Islam stuff and we did not (at least in their view), they were completely justified in getting rid of us. For the record, this was not an acrimonious parting. One of us who was not under an employment contract was told not to return and the other who was decided under the circumstances that he could no longer work for the company. Management did what they felt they had to do. We did what we felt we had to do. No complaints and no regrets.
So your wife, who you admit was never employed by the station, and whose only qualification on terrorism is being your wife, said on air that CAIR was pressuring the station to silence her, something you admit there is no proof for and the station and CAIR deny, was told not to come back. Seems like lying on air, especially about the station, is a pretty good reason to get rid of someone. Then you quit because of it and try to say that it was such a small part of your show? She was on one hour a week, which is a small part of your show. So you quit because of a small part of your show. It seems to me that you now regret your decision, which is a shame. You probably should’ve kept your job and covered the issue as it came up.
Having looked into this a bit because I was angry when I first heard it, the “expert” guests you had were about 50% discredited loons. John Guandolo was fired by the FBI for lying and highly, highly unethical behavior. He and Frank Gaffney are well known for conspiracy theories that don’t stand up to basic scrutiny. Were the guests you were having on your show spinning stories that were too good to check? Did you you just buy everything they said because they had impressive titles they gave themselves? Think about it – If Gaffney is such an expert, why was he the only neo-con NOT hired by the Bush Administration? If Guandolo had such insight, why was he fired? You’ll probably blame CAIR and some bigger conspiracy, but there comes a point when you realize you’re on the outside not because you are the only person with the knowledge to save the world, but because you’re out of touch and/or off the deep end. Sorry you let your housewife wife, who had not business being on the show in the first place, cause you to quit, but man-up and take the responsibility for your actions. And, frankly, if your ratings were anywhere near that of Rush, Sean or Levin, you could’ve done or said anything you wanted. They clearly weren’t, which is something you creatively avoided addressing here and in your other pieces.
Shame on you. Take your medicine and get over yourself.
Darrell
someone definitely jumped up early to get this worm
a bit of a pre-emptive strike?
very fishy
My, the TPM line on display. Discredited loons? Only in the leftosphere. “John Guandolo was fired by the FBI for lying and highly, highly unethical behavior.” One of those statements which while factual in itself is used in an irrelevant context so as to amount to dishonesty, the poisoning-the well trick; the fact that Guandolo slept with a witness has no bearing on the quality of his assessment of the terrorist threat.
Then you follow with an even more egregious fallacy, “if Guandalo has such insight, then why was he fired?” tossing out a complete red herring since Guandalo’s conduct, risking the loss of the Wm Jefferson prosecution, has nothing to do with terrorism at all. If Duke Cunningham was such a great fighter pilot, then why was he convicted? Same silliness.
As to Gaffney, you have nothing at all so you fall back on an appeal to ridicule, and the fallacy of the illicit major: “the only neo-con not hired by the Bush administration” (also falls under assumed premise, denying the antecedent, no true Scotsman…) Would you claim that Albert Einstein was not a scientist?
“well known for conspiracy theories that don’t stand up to basic scrutiny” Perhaps you would care to explicate this uncorroborated assertion? What theories, and whose basic scrutiny? Are you denying the existence of the stealth jihad? It seems your entire screed is an effort to declare “nobody in the henhouse but us chickens. No need to come look.”
Whether or not CAIR was involved in WMAL’s decision, there is no doubt whatsoever that the Grandys were forced out because station management doesn’t want to offend Washington-area terrorist supporters, and for all your hectoring you can’t get around that.
I don’t know about these 2, but CAIR’s yapper-in-chief Ibrahim Hooper denied wanting “something to be done” (oops, his words) about Juan Williams @ NPR until the E-mails were “revealed.”
and in you’re defense, you’re probably just stupid
Tip to Darrell Q: Make sure your invoice for services rendered reaches CAIR within 14 days of publication. They’re quite picky about that, I hear.
It isn’t as though CAIR is not capable of this: CAIR Articles Get Journalist Suspended
Well, you certainly have my support. Thanks for the good work you’ve done and I’m sure will continue to do. At this point, speaking the truth is an act of bravery, if not heroism.
Excellent comments. Thank you!
Of course, all believing and observing Muslims, no matter where they are found, believe that non-Muslims must be converted to Islam. Any Muslim or non-Muslim who says differently is engaging in taqqiya, or lying to protect and promote the faith and the faithful. C.F., “Islam 101″ by Robert Spencer at ‘jihadwatch.org.’
9:5. Then when the Sacred Months (the 1st, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikun {unbelievers} wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat {the Islamic ritual prayers}), and give Zakat {alms}, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Having been revealed later in Muhammad?s life than 50:45, 109, and 2:256, the Verse of the Sword abrogates their peaceful injunctions in accordance with 2:106. Sura 8, revealed shortly before Sura 9, reveals a similar theme:
8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.
8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allah desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
9:29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
9:33. It is He {Allah} Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).
The Quran’s commandments to Muslims to wage war in the name of Allah against non-Muslims are unmistakable. They are, furthermore, absolutely authoritative as they were revealed late in the Prophet’s career and so cancel and replace earlier instructions to act peaceably. Without knowledge of the principle of abrogation, Westerners will continue to misread the Quran and misdiagnose Islam as a “religion of peace.”
Fred,
I like the unofficial, Internet version of what happened better in that: “WMAL told you to shut Ms Fred up and you told them where and how deep to stick it!”
Your article today says a lot of things, but it seems to very carefully not tell the rest of the story – which is why I read the thing to begin with.
In any event thanks for the memories and good luck to you and Ms. Fred.
And with this above, as appears, just too many of the Am citizenry are so pleased to be under the influence of their own flavor of plain ol’ American milquetoast, . . . it’s amazing, . . .
This is not the first time WMAL has forced a “non-compliant” talk show host off the air. Several years ago, a very popular Michae
l Graham was forced out after complaints from CAIR for his criticism of radical Islamists. You can look it up. Political correctness has run amuck at the DC radio station. I no longer listen to the morning show left dull and boring by the departure of Fred Grandy.
My sentiments, exactly, Sandra! With I-Tunes I no longer have to listen to our local talk radio station anyway…there is a station in Boston that’s a lot of fun in the mornings!
The Grandy’s wrote: “Communities large and small across America have welcomed Muslim families and businesses and houses of worship and treated them as friends and neighbors.”
This in and of itself, post 9/11, is troubling indeed. There is nothing to indicate that Japanese Americans – interred in camps following the Pearl Harbor sneak attacks – were anything but loyal American citizens. The jury is out with Muslim-Americans. There is anecdotal evidence which indicates significant antipathy towards Jews and Israel within the Muslim community – did anyone see the Muslim-American / Palestinian protests in American cities during Israel’s December 2008 – January 2009 Operation Cast Lead in Gaza? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3Xl68kP4wo – followed by hatred for Christians and other non-Muslims. The September 11, 2001 attacks / atrocities were a declaration of war. Every Muslim-American should be suspect until proven innocent. Had Jewish ‘terrorists’ done this terrible crime, every American Jew would be suspect.
I’ve got to take issue with the assertion that Rush Limbaugh inveighs against “radical” Islam. Limbaugh is inadequate when it comes to Islam. He is either ill-informed or he is afraid. Limbaugh brings in Mark Steyn as a guest host due to his inability to speak to this pressing issue.
I find it noteworthy also that Limbaugh doesn’t do more coverage of this important issue. He seems to be too busy all the time bashing Obama.
So much to bash. So little time.
Mr. Grandy,
For your investigations into the threat of jihad here in the US, how much support have you received from American muslims or muslim organizations?
Thank you
Fred and Catherine Grandy should make their case public through out conservative media and shame WMAL for becoming a tool of America’s enemies. Representative King folded under pressure and has been ineffective and worse of all, he has become a straw man for the Islamist and their leftist allies. Let the Grandys have a voice in this fight, because they are aware of the threat we face as a civilization.
The white flag is slowly but surely being hoisted up the flagpole. With every incident such as this it inches up a little higher.
The ultimate goal of all Islamic aggression, be it physical or cultural, is the imposition of Sharia law. In the 1950′s song “Love and Marriage” there is a line that goes “you can’t have one without the other.” That’s Islam and Sharia. You can’t have one without the other.
Every time one of our institutions yields to pressure from groups like CAIR they are in effect yielding to Sharia. WMAL by telling Mr. Gandy to tone down criticism of Islam basically said “we want to be more Sharia compliant.”
Well stated. Thank you for your comments.
WMAL hasn’t had a great record in backing up their show hosts in recent years against groups like CAIR (see the Michael Graham incident six years ago for the previous example). And if the heads of station owner Citadel (which bought ABC’s radio stations from Disney) had their way, Hannity, Limbaugh and Levin would also be canned, but since doing that would also cause the ratings on Citadel’s big AM stations across the country to creater and send the company into insolvency, they don’t scrub the nationally syndicated programs.
Mr. Grandy,
Thank you for standing up for what you believe, and doing so with manners and dignity.
As a former Democratic congressman, do you feel that the Democrats currently in office are addressing the issue of Islam appropriately?
Is THAT what happened?? I’ve been wondering for a week what happened – I was afraid there was a family emergency. Not very happy to learn that WMAL has taken the dhimmy course of action. I really enjoyed (and was educated) when Mrs. Fred would come on the show!
The show really stinks without you!
I am disgusted by the loss of the Grandy group, and looked forward to Mrs. Fred on Fridays. Hope you find a new venue soon, I will tune in. Thanks for standing up for us all against those who would destroy our society. Death before dhimmitude.
I am getting soooo sick and tired of hearing about the stifling of free speech when it comes to Moslems. Who the h*ll do Moslems think they are anyway and why are liberals bending over backwards to appease these bullies?? Are they such superior human beings that they are above reproach or criticism of any kind? No wonder the narcissistic, ego-maniac in the White House identifies with them so much.
“…why are liberals bending over backwards to appease these bullies??”
Because they hate Christians & Jews. JMO.
If you broadcast out of DC instead of one of the 57 legitimate states, freedom of speech doesn’t apply for you. Sheesh. Just aks Rio Barry.
I support Fred. There was no way to legitimately complain about his speech and thoughts on Islam.
I have severed my 12-tear relationship with WMAL and have chosen other stations that provide unadulterated talk.
It’s all part of the multicultural bullying that the self righteous liberal left uses when no logical explanation or argument can be put forward. Start name calling and belittling of any opponent with a factual argument and ignore the ones you can’t defend against. Every time I see some wild eyed radical Muslim chanting in the streets yelling allah akbar I see that same look in the eyes of some self righteous teacher yelling education or seiu member screaming health care. They along with the media are the ones that are stabbing our Western Civilization in the back every bit as much as the wild eyed muslim and his religion.
The media, the untrustworthy fronting for the gullible and naïve in the jihad of multiculturalism.
I was wondering what had become of you all. I have missed listening to Fred on my morning commute. I’m saddened that WMAL has taken this step in the name of “political correct” group-think. Sad…very sad.
I agree completely. The show is worthless at this point (except for Mary Catherine). My husband has stopped listening altogether. I will now, too. Fred and Mrs. Fred, thank you for keeping up with all of this for those of us who cannot. You both were the best part of the show. WMAL leadership is WRONG and TRAITOROUS.
I totally agree with your rendition of what the status quo currently is in our country. We have become a nation of those that are afraid to express free speech if it would cast some aspersion on a group of people. We really are but a step away from being imprisoned for speaking out against government. I am of the age where I can clearly remember radical Iranian Students dispensing hatred for America from the steps of Berkley, I believe, while we had Americans held as hostages in Iran. Walking on eggshells simply led the world audience to believe we had gone totally soft and afraid to stand our ground and provided implicit permission to trash us at any and every opportunity. In effect, we should have as citizens, without the need for law enforcement, stormed those radical students and physically removed them and given them a beating if necessary to put and end to their toxic diatribe.
I am reminded once again of the pervasive mentality of humans…we all want to eat potatoes but no one wants to dig them and now most are afraid to even ask for a bite! Bottom line for me is this: I will call out the Muslims, the Islamics, or any other group inside our borders that foments hatred of America and Americans and purposely chooses not to help identify terrorists within their ranks. By God if you live here you will behave like an American and defend the country that affords you protection. We need to muzzle these radicals and put them in their place for all the world to see.
Fred and Mrs. Fred, PLEASE take up Tom Marr’s invite to visit on WCBM.
I stopped listening to the morning “wake-up” show on WMAL when you lost Andy Parks. It was NOT the same show, although I would switch my my very local Baltimore station to the static filled WMAL (before sunrise) on occasions when my husband driving to work told me to do so.
You both, as well as others (on the air, in cyberspace and print) are sometimes touching that “third rail” in the local community, the very large, and increasingly intolerant Islamic minority.
Jihad is a way of life, both the “spiritual” one of self discipline against the forces of evil, and the conquest, the greater Jihad, that in this generation is being fought with terrorism and violence, some of which IS DIRECTED at fellow Muslims that are not “Muslim enough.”
Oh and Mrs Fred, thank-you.
Sorry that you lost your jobs. Obviously, you bumped up against someone’s sacred cow, and the management at that station found it easier to dump you then to actually, factually or intellectually deal with the issue.
I worked in the nuclear power distribution industry, and was sent to a non-nuke, commercial plant once. I was in charge of the crew. The head electrical engineer at the job wanted me to swap a component (a circuit breaker the size of a mini-bar fridge)that had failed calibration with another he had on hand (What do you mean it failed? It’s never given us any trouble before? The component, while being physically there, was not actually working). The problem, was the handy replacement wasn’t rated for anywhere near the required power load. None of this was subjective. You’d think in engineering, of all places, that objective data would trump all other considerations.
Wrong.
The engineer yelled at me for an hour (Look, saying it louder doesn’t make it less wrong. And if I agree with you than nothing would change other than both of us being wrong). I told him if he felt that strongly about it, HIS guys could swap it out. But we wouldn’t take responsibility for it. And be sure to give us 5 minutes warning, as we were going to get out of the way, because it could cause an explosion.
I was removed from the job, and written up the next day. In my write up, it was reported that I was suspected of going out on the job site while under the influence of drugs. Proof of which was my erratic behavior (I hummed and sang quietly while using the test equipment). I demanded a drug test immediately. Which I never got.
I was more or less demoted, and never was lead on a job again (although I had been doing so for years).
I found out, years later, that the engineer in question had a family tie to my manager. Albeit a distant one. He went home and complained to his wife (because I had made his day so hard). And the phone calls through the family grape vine began.
So my point (yes, I actually have one) is this. You can do everything right and above board. But when you face illogical consequences, you will usually find that someone else, either directly or indirectly, isn’t .
It’s unfair and it sucks. And it sounds like you have the right attitude about it though.
Take care and good luck with your next gig.
JW
Right out of “Atlas Shrugged”. I you haven’t read it, take the time. We are living it today…
If radical Islam had a mission statement it would be: “Believe or be destroyed!”
There is no such thing as “radical Islam”.
There are faithful Muslims and unfaithful Muslims.
There is only Islam. It is murderous and absolutely intolerant.
Anything else is not Islam.
That’s pretty much what Mrs. Fred discovered.
that IS exactly what is meant by Qur’anic verse 9:5
THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. ALL SHOULD READ THE QURAN AND HADDITH. ISLAM LIKE MEIN KAMPF BY HITLER TELLS YOU EXACTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE THEM. OUR FELLOW AMERICANS WHO DO NOT GET IT ARE ON A SUICIDE MISSION TO DESTROY THE USA AND ALL INFIDELS. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. REMEMBER JESUS CHRIST WAS PERSECUTED BY FOOLS BUT PREVAILED. GOOD LUCK IN YOUR QUEST FOR THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
George Orwell
Perhaps the explanation for the cancellation of the show is as simple as the station managers’ fear of the station being blown up. After all, have we not become a nation of cowards?
If Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, etc. were causing so much trouble muslims wouldn’t stand out so much.
Muslims do stand out so much because some few are trouble makers with overweening arrogance and the rest either tacitly compliant or secular.
I don’t see how letting in members of what amounts to a hate group should be allowed. When did I sign up for some program that not only forces me to respect cultures and groups no matter what they do but shut off my brain so that I must view all people as equal despite empirical evidence that shows otherwise in terms of tax dollars spent for crime, housing prisoners and increased security?
I not only have to live in a country that increasingly doesn’t like me and my history and with more crime but pay for it too? Look at Detroit or Guatemala City – does anyone in their wildest imagination believe those are some weird blips on the radar, indicative of nothing?
Muslim immigration into America should be stopped until the ‘good’ muslims step on the bad ones and keep them down. I am not some kind of an experimental kindergarten for medieval dogmatists. I in no way acknowledge the Supreme Court’s power to extend the U.S. Constitution outside our borders as far as who can come to America and who can not. Nor do I acknowledge Obama’s or Mexico’s right to sue over this issue.
Obviously members of some Islamic groups are not allowed in – I am just saying extend that out to all of Islam. Call me a bigot or racist, fine. At least I’ll be a safe one who wouldn’t have to have millions if not billions of tax dollars spent on extra security WITHIN the U.S. because of a group ‘equal’ to all others.
A smart lawyer or any one with common sense would easily be able to lay out a case that in fact virtually 100% of our extra security in the last 20 years, including the Super Bowl as a high priority security concern, no-fly’s within our country, TV shows self-censoring, TSA screenings and 1,000 other things are because of Islam and nothing else. I sure as hell don’t see how that very present reality can be written off as racism and ignored as if it doesn’t exist by Islamic groups of whatever nature – they are effectively liars as are the politically correct, multiculturalist’s supposedly worried about the foundations of our Constitution who are in fact eroding it. King was a moron for not laying this case out because it can be counted and shown on paper like a history book.
People worry about the one vote, one time syndrome in Iran spreading to Egypt but what about a far more nuanced version of that when people from the Third World, who have made up 85% of immigrants the last 10 years NOT including illegal ones, subsume America with their own disregard for democracy or the greater good? We’ll still have a vote and still have the Constitution but it’ll be in country that votes by skin, names and religion.
Why are we undoing what we so smartly set up, fought, bled and died for for decades and decades? What is the end game, 400 million, 500 million? And what kind of people will they be? Will they be people who are curious for curiosity’s sake or people who move in a cultural sea of self-interest beyond the penchant of European Americans who already do so. The latter is human nature, kept down by our culture and laws, the former is a culture in and of itself rife throughout the Third World who ignore law and any consideration of the greater good – they’re still slaughtering each other over which building one enters on a given day or which books one reads.
I reject the argument that some kind of osmosis will occur that will let the sun shine and prove the grandsons of Nigerians or Egyptians will carry on the traditions and innovative technologies that have made America the kind of country millions in the world in trying to get into.
One does not excel through opportunity, one truly excels by creating opportunity and this in nowhere evident in the Third World or within Islam – cleverly memorizing a book or computer technology isn’t the same as researching and creating one. Bright cultures don’t need excuses or passports to already established lands to excel. Major League baseball players ain’t the owners – take away the owner culture and you got squat. Is it yet another really weird coincidence that the owners don’t reflect the team make ups? Oh, yeah, it’s the hangover from institutional racism – just give it another couple of hundred years and 9 zillions cups of coffee and it’ll go away.
Americans make excuses too – we practically apologize for dominating the world’s technologies and arts – we are handicapping ourselves philosophically, feeling guilty and offering up our own culture, the only one of its kind in the world, to a kind of dumbing down, criminalizing and watering down that will ultimately turn vast swaths of America into intellectual shanty towns.
Look at Detroit, the population of 100 years ago now because a culture demographically came to hold sway and literally destroyed the place – where was that heavenly osmosis then? Cultures are not frickin’ equal and the idea of assimilation going the way of the passenger pigeon as new immigrants don’t like us, love their cultures but can’t stand the idea of actually living in them. Everyone expects some wonderful hybrid to emerge and argue it has in the past. I argue that Europe, from where almost all our immigrants came from, is hardly a melting pot nor has America ever been one in the way it is asked to be now. It’s not working out.
Because of immigration in all its forms today, it is absolutely no exaggeration to say that our politicians and moron flagships like Democracy Now are literally killing Americans. That supposed cost we who built this country must pay is for what, to make some people who are unhappy in the Third World happy and to make our economy look like it’s productive rather than surviving on a constant influx of 1 million people a year?
We are handcuffed in a way that is socially disastrous by one simple word, ‘racism’ and the enablers in whatever form should be confronted and shut down.
yes
Reply to #27
Well said James. I say there be a moratorium on all immigration until we clean up the mess that is here. 8 years minimum.
I suspect there is a ‘silent’ movement in this country to silence any “free speech” even if that speech is an open discussion concerning legitimate American concerns regarding Radical Islam and any infiltration of that part of Islam into America. This is foolish. Thankfully there are many heroic people who are not ‘afraid’ to do so… including here.
I suspect this is the same way others are treated in ME countries. Those who ‘dare’ have an open conversation or free speech regarding legitimate ‘issues’ are in some way intimidated into silence.
I say if there are those who are ‘offended’ you are free to leave, this is a free country. This was my country way before you came here. It is not the other way around. If certain ‘people’ think they are the subject of unfair conversation, and have concerns let them speak up, join the conversation and dispel any ‘myths’ – operative word is “Truthfully”. Or as James pointed out, ‘let the GOOD Stomp out the BAD’. The good need to step up and speak up. The burden of dispelling Radical Islam in America is on them not us.
I don’t like being the a pawn of a game I wasn’t asked to play by people who may or may not want to kill me.
Steve,
Regarding your comment: “There is nothing to indicate that Japanese Americans – interred in camps following the Pearl Harbor sneak attacks – were anything but loyal American citizens.”
You are incorrect:
http://www.rawls.org/Korematsu.htm
“Imagine if, in the wake of the Islamist sneak attack on the World Trade Towers, 5,000 Arab-Americans had expressed their loyalty to Al-Queda by renouncing their American citizenship. This is what more than 5,000 Japanese-Americans did in the wake of the Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor.”
“The first Japanese-American who was called upon to choose sides proved to be a traitor. A Japanese pilot downed in the attack on Pearl Harbor was captured by Hawaiian islanders. They asked a Japanese-American to translate and the pilot convinced him to come back with guns. The primitively armed Hawaiians fought heroically and killed the pilot and the traitor.”
Mission accomplished.
I’ve stopped listening to WMAL in the mornings. Without Fred and Mrs Fred it’s no longer interesting. I hope they’ll be on the air again somewhere soon.
Throughout history people have prepared for the last war, not the next one. France’s Maginot Line and multiculturalism after WWII’s Holocaust are two examples. both wrongfully speculated what was needed while failing to consider all the facts.
‘Just finished reading a curious book called Occidentalism. It examines why people & nations hate the West. One of the most interesting things I gleaned from this book was why militarism & nationalism became so vital to intellectuals in early 20th century Germany & Japan. It was a philosophy that believed capitalism & individualism were plodding, bland life goals. Only heroic combat was a worthy goal, specially when one sacrifices one’s life for one’s country.
So often when I speak with people who believe, heart & soul, in multiculturalism, Pragmatism, social justice, etc. I think: we’re not talking about facts here but feelings. There’s is an undefined philosophy percolating in the most powerful circles of academe & politics today that believes in the nobility of social justice above all, perceived as heroic, noble, giving life purpose and a ready enemy, Conservatives. It’s next to impossible to convert true believers of this faith. Consequently they aren’t learning about our enemies for they’re too busy typecasting him as Rousseau’s noble savage.
Just as most leftists & multiculturalists don’t know the enemy neither do most Conservatives understand the leftists among us. Who are these people who don’t need facts, such as passages from the Koran that spell out disturbing insights or for whom America’s true history does not resonate? They have power over all our lives yet they’re leading us all off a cliff. We must study this subculture too, just as we’re uncovering the threats of Islamists. Or all of us, not just the Grandy’s, will be blackballed and silenced. I will miss the Grandy’s time on the air for they helped me know I’m not alone, for they shared the facts from all the books I’ve read warning of things as they are not as we want them to be.
I must have looked at your name 4-5 times while reading your post as I was astounded by the insights. Thanks. The blandness and plodding of individuals in a capitalist society could certainly be seen to lack an awareness of enemies within or preparedness for such. See the World Trade Center and Airline Travel in particular. Making a buck, feeding your family, and putting a roof over their head should amount to something but not so by those driven by a higher emotional calling- the state, the mullah, or the imam.
Heroism in the defense of tyranny is certainly a vice. Dedication to a cause can range from attending a WI union protest against a Republican Governor, to flying a Mitsubishi into Pearl Harbor knowing it’s a one-way trip. Same mission, different day: defeat freedom/capitalism and replace it with a devotion to the empire or state collective.
As you’ve revealed, social justice is a very dangerous concept when embraced by politician and professor. “We, the People” can quickly become, “You, the Culprit” in the wrong hands.
My hope is that we’ll eventually recognize the hate that comes from the east and the threat it poses for the love that exists in the west, and begin to do something about it- while earning a living. Our Salvation may not lie with being Shovel-Ready, but Shovel-at-the-Ready, in a Blazing Saddles kind of way.
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Carol you write: “I think: we’re not talking about facts here but “feelings”.”
You hit the NAIL ON THE HEAD.
“Feelings” don’t have ‘logic’, an ‘analytical component’, nor ‘common sense’.
Whatever caused this result, whether the Grandy’s were fired or resigned, this is a form of censorship all too familiar, inflicted on anyone who dares to be critical of Islam. What immediately crawls out of the woodwork are infuriated and dismayed Islamic apologists, ignoramuses who spew critiques laced with ad hominem attacks and erroneous “facts,” like Mr. Darrell Quinton above and the usual suspects, CAIR reps like Ibrahim Hooper and his ilk who scream racism apparently for effect because he must certainly understand that Islam is not a race.
As outrageous and befuddling as it is here in America it is much worse in Europe. Geert Wilder, a member of the Dutch Parliament who made a controversial, twenty minute film critical of Islam called Fitna (http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/03/here-is-fitna.html) and was subsequently charged with “inciting hatred and discrimination and insulting groups of people.” His first trial was a travesty, he appealed for a new one, won and a new trial was scheduled to start on February 7, 2011. The British canceled a scheduled appearance before their Parliament and even such vaunted Conservatives as Glenn Beck and Charles Krauthammer on FOX News were critical and had nothing positive to say about him. He travels surrounded by a security detail 24 hours a day because of death threats from “Peaceful Muslims.”
So does Ayaan Hirsi Ali as a result of a film about the misogyny inherent in Islam that she made in collaboration with Dutch filmmaker, Theo Van Gogh who was assassinated and a note stuck to his chest with a knife. A former Muslim she left her native Somalia because of their practice of female genital mutilation and settled in the Netherlands. She now lives in seclusion having left the Netherlands for fear of her life.
And where is Molly Norris? Here’s a link from a Google search: http://www.seattleweekly.com/2010-09-15/news/on-the-advice-of-the-fbi-cartoonist-molly-norris-disappears-from-view/
There’s a pattern here that has yet to be widely recognized in the west; criticism of Islam is not allowed. Ironically, this view is often sold on the idea that such criticism will ultimately lead to violence from members of the Islamic faith, “the religion of peace” but anyone alert to the tactic and paying attention can detect it immediately. For a recent example, review what has come to pass since Congressman Peter King announced his Chairmanship of a new committee to investigate the influence of Islamic terrorists on Americans. He immediately ran afoul of CAIR who many will argue has already had undue influence on King and the direction and efficacy of his investigation. Read this about CAIR:
http://www.danielpipes.org/394/cair-moderate-friends-of-terror
Whether CAIR or any of its alphabet soup of Islamic affiliated groups, MSA, MAS, IIIT, ISNA, etc. had anything to do with the Grandy’s situation is, for the moment, anybodies guess but that the Grandy’s departure from the broadcast scene will meet with their fervent if unacknowledged approval should not be in doubt. It fits nicely in their grand, malevolent scheme.
WMAL has a number of leftists in its leadership (remember Jerry the whiner Klein?). They have continually taken off talk show hosts who had the guts to tell the truth (I didn’t always agree with what they said, but I was glad that they had the strength to tell it like it like they see it). Mike Gallagher, Cunningham, Jeff Kunhner.
I like some fire in the belly, even from leftists. Nothing turns me off more than milk-toast talkers and leaders (including Secy of Defense Gates, Clopper, Brennan, Obama, Biden, Boehner, McConnell and perhaps Adm. Mullens, Gen. Jones, etc). We have truly become a nation of wimps and cowards.
Re Rush Limbaugh not talking much about Islam – it is not his area of extensive knowledge and experience. His field is national politics, media bias, and liberal/leftist hypocrisy. Some of the best on Islam are Bostom, Pipes, Adjami, Spencer, Shoebat, Caroline Glick, Gaffney (strategy & tactics), Mike Ledeen, etc).
Fortunately you can find their columns and/or hear them on the internet, Fox Cable TV, Youtube, and local radio shows.
Let’s not attack each other. That’s what CAIR and ICNA and MSA want. Stay united and continue to defend our country. There are other radio stations out there who are challenging WMAL, including Tom Marr from Baltimore, Dennis Miller and at one-time Jerry Doyle (this man knows how to “rant” in style).
Our strength is in our unified diversity. We cannot be at each others throats or our enemies will win without firing a shot.
WMAL: Take note. You continually seize defeat from the jaws of victory and are lossing listeners in the process (Advertises take notice).
“Re Rush Limbaugh not talking much about Islam – it is not his area of extensive knowledge and experience. His field is national politics, media bias, and liberal/leftist hypocrisy.”
He touts his show as being one focused on “current events.” Certainly this should include some serious attention to the matter of the issue of islam and the many examples (which are ongoing) of our gov’t officials’ PC approach to it (among which includes a lawsuit being lodged against a school in the Chicago area for refusing to allow an Islamic teacher to have 19 days off to go to Mecca). If Rush is lacking in “experience” in this area, he would serve his audience better by honing it in this area, as again, it merits his attention. I am afraid though, that perhaps he fears facing the nature of scorn & pressure to shut up a la the Grandy’s.
All you really need to know here is that WMAL is in Washington, D. C. (District of Corruption). The truth is not well received in that district.