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		<title>By: Killjoy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/w-is-an-insult-to-62-million-voters/#comment-176925</link>
		<dc:creator>Killjoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...saying politicians are responsible for the fiscal crisis’is like saying disease is a cause of death.&quot;

If the root of our problems is that obvious, why do we still allow politicians to run our society?  You make an analogy with disease, but when it comes to disease we do everything we can to stamp it out.  We do considerably less with our politicians.  Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;saying politicians are responsible for the fiscal crisis’is like saying disease is a cause of death.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the root of our problems is that obvious, why do we still allow politicians to run our society?  You make an analogy with disease, but when it comes to disease we do everything we can to stamp it out.  We do considerably less with our politicians.  Why?</p>
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		<title>By: REALIST</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/w-is-an-insult-to-62-million-voters/#comment-144788</link>
		<dc:creator>REALIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE 62 MILLIONS IDIOTS WERE THE ONES HOODWINKED BY OBAMA YESTERDAY.  WEAK MINDS ARE THE EASIEST ONES HE SAYS.</description>
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		<title>By: DEGUELLO</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/w-is-an-insult-to-62-million-voters/#comment-137142</link>
		<dc:creator>DEGUELLO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No fraud ,saying politicians are responsible for the fiscal crisis&#039;is like saying disease is a cause of death.It was democratic     politicians,principally Obama,Frank,and Dodd,and before them Clnton and Carter,who perpetrared this atrocity,your  staement is dissembling, which is a variety of fraud.Again, for other Bloggers, you decide which one of us is a fraud  ;read The Orson Scott Card article in the Ornery American.com site, and decide.All the &quot;verifiable facts aree there,which killjoy is trying to kill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No fraud ,saying politicians are responsible for the fiscal crisis&#8217;is like saying disease is a cause of death.It was democratic     politicians,principally Obama,Frank,and Dodd,and before them Clnton and Carter,who perpetrared this atrocity,your  staement is dissembling, which is a variety of fraud.Again, for other Bloggers, you decide which one of us is a fraud  ;read The Orson Scott Card article in the Ornery American.com site, and decide.All the &#8220;verifiable facts aree there,which killjoy is trying to kill.</p>
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		<title>By: Killjoy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/w-is-an-insult-to-62-million-voters/#comment-136849</link>
		<dc:creator>Killjoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a pompous,obviously liberal democrat,blogger...&quot;

You are incorrect on all accounts except for &#039;pompous.&#039;  But as I said in my last post, according to your worldview if I don&#039;t agree with you then I must agree with your &#039;enemies&#039; (or as a great man once said, &quot;If you&#039;re not with us, you&#039;re against us&quot;).  What else is there in the world except for democrats and republicans?  Surely nothing.

&quot;You didn’t suggest proposition d,e,f,g or anything...&quot;

So positions besides democrat and republican simply don&#039;t exist if I don&#039;t delineate them for you?  Do I have to write a book about all other worldviews every time I post, just to keep them from vanishing into the aether?

&quot;...you just repeated democrat big-lie talking points...&quot;

I quoted the first line of an article which casts doubt upon your assertion that democrats are the only ones responsible for the financial crisis.  If you consider &quot;Democrats are not the only ones responsible for the financial crisis&quot; to be a talking point, I really don&#039;t know what to say.  How about &quot;politicians?&quot;  Can we agree on that?  &quot;Politicians are responsible for the financial crisis?&quot;  Or is there no room for that in your doctrine?

&quot;You are obviously a dem...&quot;

You just can&#039;t wrap your head around anything other than democrat or republican, can you?

&quot;...exposing you as a fraud...&quot;

I am delighted by this.  All it takes to expose someone as a fraud is saying &quot;I&#039;ve exposed this person as a fraud?&quot;  I thought you had to offer verifiable facts that prove the assertion in question to be incorrect.  I never knew it was as easy as &quot;It&#039;s true because I say so!&quot;  Now that I know that, though...

I&#039;ve exposed you as a democrat.  There!  According to your rules of rhetoric, it&#039;s now true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a pompous,obviously liberal democrat,blogger&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You are incorrect on all accounts except for &#8216;pompous.&#8217;  But as I said in my last post, according to your worldview if I don&#8217;t agree with you then I must agree with your &#8216;enemies&#8217; (or as a great man once said, &#8220;If you&#8217;re not with us, you&#8217;re against us&#8221;).  What else is there in the world except for democrats and republicans?  Surely nothing.</p>
<p>&#8220;You didn’t suggest proposition d,e,f,g or anything&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>So positions besides democrat and republican simply don&#8217;t exist if I don&#8217;t delineate them for you?  Do I have to write a book about all other worldviews every time I post, just to keep them from vanishing into the aether?</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;you just repeated democrat big-lie talking points&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I quoted the first line of an article which casts doubt upon your assertion that democrats are the only ones responsible for the financial crisis.  If you consider &#8220;Democrats are not the only ones responsible for the financial crisis&#8221; to be a talking point, I really don&#8217;t know what to say.  How about &#8220;politicians?&#8221;  Can we agree on that?  &#8220;Politicians are responsible for the financial crisis?&#8221;  Or is there no room for that in your doctrine?</p>
<p>&#8220;You are obviously a dem&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You just can&#8217;t wrap your head around anything other than democrat or republican, can you?</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;exposing you as a fraud&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I am delighted by this.  All it takes to expose someone as a fraud is saying &#8220;I&#8217;ve exposed this person as a fraud?&#8221;  I thought you had to offer verifiable facts that prove the assertion in question to be incorrect.  I never knew it was as easy as &#8220;It&#8217;s true because I say so!&#8221;  Now that I know that, though&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve exposed you as a democrat.  There!  According to your rules of rhetoric, it&#8217;s now true.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! words like &quot;mamichean&quot;, and &quot;binary,&quot;and correctly spelled,too,from a  pompous,obviously liberal democrat,blogger who is using spell check! Obviously folks,Kiljoy spares no effort to kill the truth!.You didn&#039;t suggest proposition d,e,f,g or anything, you just repeated democrat big-lie talking points,about the fiscal crisis,because it was the democrats who  ,to quote you, &quot;...whored out their nation&#039;s future .&quot;to buy the votes of the improvident rabble with cheap mortages.You are obviously a dem,although I don&#039;t need to resort to epithets to feel better, exposing you as a fraud serves that purpose just fine, thank you!. Bloggers: please read the article referenced on#&#039;s 206 and 207,and decide for yourselves, whether Kiltruth, should return to his sewer r continue his electronic infestations..I have no further use for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! words like &#8220;mamichean&#8221;, and &#8220;binary,&#8221;and correctly spelled,too,from a  pompous,obviously liberal democrat,blogger who is using spell check! Obviously folks,Kiljoy spares no effort to kill the truth!.You didn&#8217;t suggest proposition d,e,f,g or anything, you just repeated democrat big-lie talking points,about the fiscal crisis,because it was the democrats who  ,to quote you, &#8220;&#8230;whored out their nation&#8217;s future .&#8221;to buy the votes of the improvident rabble with cheap mortages.You are obviously a dem,although I don&#8217;t need to resort to epithets to feel better, exposing you as a fraud serves that purpose just fine, thank you!. Bloggers: please read the article referenced on#&#8217;s 206 and 207,and decide for yourselves, whether Kiltruth, should return to his sewer r continue his electronic infestations..I have no further use for him.</p>
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		<title>By: Killjoy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/w-is-an-insult-to-62-million-voters/#comment-135252</link>
		<dc:creator>Killjoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m assuming,of course, that AP(American Propaganda),is not just disseminating a new liberal canard.What did they do,take a poll of the firm’s workers,s political preferences?&quot;

I&#039;ve provided you with the title, author and date of the article.  Your answer lies there.  That you form your opinions without examining the evidence speaks volumes.

&quot;Sorry to kill your big lie,Kiljoy...&quot;

You&#039;ll accomplish that when you disprove the article&#039;s allegations.

&quot;...the fact that a Democratically controlled Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae hired a “republican “pr firm to stop a bill that would have stopped them from continuing to buy the vote of the feckless improvident with home mortages,only proves that the firm was a whore.&quot;

When powerful people whore their citizens&#039; futures for the sake of more money and power, it is indeed a problem.

&quot;Go back to your democratic sewer,and practice up on your propaganda techniques.&quot;

Ah, this must be the leftist hatred and venom I hear so much about.

You assume that because I don&#039;t agree with you, I must agree with the democrats.  This, too, speaks volumes about you.  Over 300 million souls populate the United States and every last one of them believes fully in either Position A or Position B with no other alternatives, is that it?  Certainly nobody could believe a little of one and a little of the other, and it&#039;s unthinkable blasphemy to suggest a Position C, D or E.

A binary Manichean worldview turns people into slaves who fiercely defend their belief in slavery.  I don&#039;t mind if you call me a democrat to make yourself feel better because it has nothing to do with me.  There is more in heaven and earth, to coin a phrase, than is dreamt of in your philosophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m assuming,of course, that AP(American Propaganda),is not just disseminating a new liberal canard.What did they do,take a poll of the firm’s workers,s political preferences?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve provided you with the title, author and date of the article.  Your answer lies there.  That you form your opinions without examining the evidence speaks volumes.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sorry to kill your big lie,Kiljoy&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll accomplish that when you disprove the article&#8217;s allegations.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the fact that a Democratically controlled Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae hired a “republican “pr firm to stop a bill that would have stopped them from continuing to buy the vote of the feckless improvident with home mortages,only proves that the firm was a whore.&#8221;</p>
<p>When powerful people whore their citizens&#8217; futures for the sake of more money and power, it is indeed a problem.</p>
<p>&#8220;Go back to your democratic sewer,and practice up on your propaganda techniques.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, this must be the leftist hatred and venom I hear so much about.</p>
<p>You assume that because I don&#8217;t agree with you, I must agree with the democrats.  This, too, speaks volumes about you.  Over 300 million souls populate the United States and every last one of them believes fully in either Position A or Position B with no other alternatives, is that it?  Certainly nobody could believe a little of one and a little of the other, and it&#8217;s unthinkable blasphemy to suggest a Position C, D or E.</p>
<p>A binary Manichean worldview turns people into slaves who fiercely defend their belief in slavery.  I don&#8217;t mind if you call me a democrat to make yourself feel better because it has nothing to do with me.  There is more in heaven and earth, to coin a phrase, than is dreamt of in your philosophy.</p>
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		<title>By: Deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is ORSON SCOTT CARD Sory.</description>
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		<title>By: Deguello</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/w-is-an-insult-to-62-million-voters/#comment-134436</link>
		<dc:creator>Deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AS a public service to the honest readers of this blog,please Orson Scott&#039;s column on the democrat responsibility for the Financial collapse,and the media&#039;s attepts to hide it , and blme it on the republicans.Its available on The Ornery American.com Worldwatch.com, and The American Spectator.What makes it remarkable is that Card is a bona fide liberal,who despite his liberalism, is an honest man.The article will serve to inoculate you from the cant and other garbage coming from such as Kiltruth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AS a public service to the honest readers of this blog,please Orson Scott&#8217;s column on the democrat responsibility for the Financial collapse,and the media&#8217;s attepts to hide it , and blme it on the republicans.Its available on The Ornery American.com Worldwatch.com, and The American Spectator.What makes it remarkable is that Card is a bona fide liberal,who despite his liberalism, is an honest man.The article will serve to inoculate you from the cant and other garbage coming from such as Kiltruth.</p>
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		<title>By: Deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to kill your big lie,Kiljoy,but the fact that a Democratically controlled  Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae hired a &quot;republican &quot;pr firm to stop a bill that would have stopped them from continuing to buy the vote of the feckless improvident with home mortages,only proves that the firm was a whore.I&#039;m assuming,of course, that AP(American Propaganda),is not just disseminating  a new liberal canard.What did they do,take a poll of the firm&#039;s workers,s political preferences?Incidentally Killtruth, why don&#039;t you point out that the 2 most prominent politicians pushing for more federal control of Fannie Mae,3 years ago,were John McCain,and George Bush,hey Killtruth? Go back to your democratic sewer,and practice up on your propaganda techniques.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to kill your big lie,Kiljoy,but the fact that a Democratically controlled  Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae hired a &#8220;republican &#8220;pr firm to stop a bill that would have stopped them from continuing to buy the vote of the feckless improvident with home mortages,only proves that the firm was a whore.I&#8217;m assuming,of course, that AP(American Propaganda),is not just disseminating  a new liberal canard.What did they do,take a poll of the firm&#8217;s workers,s political preferences?Incidentally Killtruth, why don&#8217;t you point out that the 2 most prominent politicians pushing for more federal control of Fannie Mae,3 years ago,were John McCain,and George Bush,hey Killtruth? Go back to your democratic sewer,and practice up on your propaganda techniques.</p>
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		<title>By: Killjoy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/w-is-an-insult-to-62-million-voters/#comment-134377</link>
		<dc:creator>Killjoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mack: &quot;...Fannie Mae Freddie Mac, these two companies have close financial an political ties to the Democratic Party. you do the math!&quot;

Tch, tch, Mack.  Talking points and facts are two different things.  Let&#039;s try the opening sentence from an Associated Press article published just days ago.  From &quot;Mortgage Firm Arranged Stealth Campaign&quot; by Pete Yost, Associated Press Writer on Mon Oct 20, 1:28 pm:

&quot;Freddie Mac secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae, three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.&quot;

Clear evidence that the Democrats are responsible, I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mack: &#8220;&#8230;Fannie Mae Freddie Mac, these two companies have close financial an political ties to the Democratic Party. you do the math!&#8221;</p>
<p>Tch, tch, Mack.  Talking points and facts are two different things.  Let&#8217;s try the opening sentence from an Associated Press article published just days ago.  From &#8220;Mortgage Firm Arranged Stealth Campaign&#8221; by Pete Yost, Associated Press Writer on Mon Oct 20, 1:28 pm:</p>
<p>&#8220;Freddie Mac secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae, three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clear evidence that the Democrats are responsible, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll agree.</p>
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