Voter Fraud Watch: A Primer on What to Watch For
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Poll workers voting for voters
There are few things as nasty as election officials cranking their wishes into a machine instead of the voters. Remember, however, that voters can have anyone assist them, even going so far as to push the screen or buttons – even an election official. This is a right under Section 208 of the Voting Rights Act. Yet some states prohibit election officials from casting a ballot or pushing the screen for voters. This is an unresolved conflict in the law in some places. Either way, be aware when election officials are pushing ballots.
Software glitches
I am entirely unconvinced that the software on machines sometimes has candidate choices pre-marked. I believe this is an urban myth spawned by unfamiliarity with the machine inputs. Even Sasquatch may be more common. But I reserve the right to be wrong. Obviously if you encounter this, move slowly, don’t touch buttons, call for help, and then call Pajamas Media.
Counting errors
One of the worst ways to run an election is with paper ballots. We want to minimize the human inputs in our elections. Electronics are the way to go. When paper ballots are counted by humans, humans get to decide so many things — like which box is that “X” really in. Or, that isn’t an “X,” that’s a stray mark, so the “X” is really meant for this candidate. Get my point? Dishonest clerks can find lots of discretion in paper ballots. Lord over them while the count goes on, if the law allows.
Politicking inside the room
Another terrible behavior is when people are chatting, talking, or carrying on and telling others how to vote. A modern version of this is cell phones in the booth. In most states, one may not make calls on the phone while voting. Typically, down ballot contests see people break the law and chat — “Who should I vote for city council?” Sometimes they even call a friend. This is not allowed in most places and observers should alert election officials while it is happening.
Would you like to vote a straight party ticket?
Many places in America still see large amounts of straight party ticket voting. In places where this fading behavior is more common, election officials tend to improperly ask the question of voters getting assistance from the election official. In fact, I have never once heard the Republican version of this illegal behavior. “Would you like to vote a straight Republican Party ticket” are words I have never heard an election official improperly ask a voter. In fact, “Would you like to vote a straight Democratic Party ticket” is something being uttered all over Houston in early Texas voting right now. If you hear it happen, write down who said it, write down what you heard right after you heard it, and call election officials at the headquarters — then reach out to Pajamas Media.
That should get everyone started. This year has seen an amazing amount of citizen interest in standing watch against voter fraud. Even if you don’t see it, remember, those who stand watch also serve. Go volunteer with your local political party. Ask a candidate if you can serve as a poll watcher. Make Election Day the active, participatory, national event it was meant to be.
A final note. Too often political parties cobble together a poll watching operation at the last second. And the training is weak, with folks being thrust into the field with no wisdom or experience. This is changing. Groups are establishing systemic training well before the election. The old way of a political party doing things is fading. A New Model Army of poll watchers is taking the field this election, totally separate from political parties, with an eye toward deploying thousands of highly trained watchers in 2012. Next Tuesday is just the beginning.
Thank you! A thousand times thank you. We need more quality information like this.
We should not rest until we have poll watchers in every precinct in the country.
Thank you so much for this info. Voter fraud comes in many costumes.
Mr. Adams: If they can get away with it ,it will happen.Remember Dino Rossi and Norm Coleman were both defeated by fraud. If Harry Reid pulls out a win by two hundred votes it means he probably lost by a thousand votes.
Supposedly some voters in nevada has saying Reid’s name is already checked on their ballot..before they vote for anyone…
“Are Harry Reid and SEIU rigging voting machines?
…Several voting mishaps have been reported across the country, including in Harry Reid’s state of Nevada where voters are complaining that Harry Reid’s name is checked before they even vote. It’s possibly a fluke – but it’s happened to several people AND voting machine technical issues are being handled by SEIU union workers.”
….this is from Beck’s radio program, and transcripts are on line.
So, what do we do about this type of thing???
A very depressing article. To think this all still goes on today is very sad. That’s why I believe that conservative Republicans in most of the major states need to win by at least 4% in order to counteract all of the voter fraud that goes on with the Democrats. And we still have not even talked about ACORN and all of its affiliates getting into the act with those bogus voter registrations, letting some people vote more than one time.
Stand firm, keep your eyes and ears open, and don’t be shy to raise the alarm if you see something wrong going on. The fight for liberty is never an easy one, but people with a true heart and a decent soul will always prevail over thugs who want to cheat and steal their way into our government.
November 2nd is coming and no matter how many dirty tricks they throw against us, they will not win.
So, don’t just be worried, don’t just be outraged, VOLUNTEER as a poll worker. I have in the past, and have again for this election. Even took off a day on election day, it’s that important!!!
The writer knows his history. Mention of the New Model Army is especially fitting.
I completely disagree with your statement that “electronics are the way to go”. I do not claim to be smarter, better educated, or more moral than you. I do, however, have three decades more programming experience than you. If I were dishonest, the voting machines would be showing the results that I want them to.
The reliability and security of electronic voting is too complex for this article. I do not disagree that there are risks. There are also solutions. But paper is the worst most error prone method of voting.
I am a poll worker in Ohio.
When a voter needs assistance in filling out their ballot, one judge from each of the two major parties must assist the voter together.
We use optical scanners which read and count paper ballots so there is a paper backup to prevent machine fraud. In addition, the machine rejects ballots with an error (voting for two when you could only vote for one candidate). That would eliminate later disagreement on the intention of the voter because the machine would have rejected a ballot with two suspected “votes”.
They recently started using optical scanners with paper ballots where I live, too. I much prefer them because you have the impartiality and error checks of a computer, but also have a paper record if the count is contested. I don’t trust purely electronic machines.
A lot of the poker machines in Vagas were rigged for a long, long, time before anyone figured it out and then only due to a murder being investigated where there didn’t seem to be a motive. Electronic voting is a scam, a major league, big dollar, impress the ignorant natives, scam.
Forget about anything but paper ballots and manpower, that’s what works and that’s what is most difficult to tweak unless the government itself is in on it as in Chicago.
Beyond voting fraud, be ready to send lawyers, guns, and money, to the close races because the fascists will keep Republican victors in court as long as possible to keep from their being seated. Unless people are willing to watch for fraud and fight for what they win, the democrats will steal enough to hang on by the skin of their teeth.
Regards
Yes, I agree, it is much less likely that the Dems will discover trunks full of computer printouts in their cars that had just slipped their mind until the recount.
Christian, I have commented on other posts on this subject about the potential for data-mining for fraud after the election. Do you have any idea whether registration rolls and voting rolls are ever available on electronic format? That would make comparisons between them and analysis of them for anomalies very simple. Any idea who I could contact to find out?
I completely agree about the sketchiness of voting machines. Here, in backwards Canada we walk to the polling station, they check our ID against the electoral roll and we mark a paper ballot with a pencil. How is a machine that can be sabotaged in a million ways better than that?
OK, let’s say that you are a member of an organization that knowingly submits hundreds of thousands of fake voter registrations for dead poeple, illegal aliens, bovines/canines and cartoon characters, on the final day of registration. The Registrars office, overwhelmed by the volume, still manages to catch a lot of them, but many thousands slip through and are now accepted as legal voters.
Now assume that the State Secretary of State is someone whose election was funded with huge amounts of money by someone who understands that he who counts the votes is more important than the voters, aka George Soros. It would be an easy task for them to let the aforementioned organization know which fake registrations had been accepted as legit.
Now it’s a simple matter to fill out blank ballots in the name of those fake voters, then just give them to a friendly election official or several for inclusion in their totals by precinct.
Or let’s consider the possibility that there is a Justice Department that refuses to enforce the law that says that states must purge their voter rolls of the dead, illegals, duplicates, and people who have moved out of state. The State SOS identifies who those are, but does not purge them, then gives the names to the criminal organization mentioned above to prepare fake ballots in their names.
Voila! Stolen election.
But the stuff you describe is 3rd world – in N.america we live in the 1st world. I’m not familiar with US Federal election procedures but I assume they are similar in protecting voters rights and guarding against vote tampering. At least, I did until I started reading Pajamas Media.
In Canada, Elections Canada is the independent, non-partisan agency responsible for conducting federal elections and referendums in Canada.It reports to parliament and is funded by the taxpayers. Its website contains several searchable databases including all the travel and hospitality expenses incurred by election officials. Elections Canada, not political parties, runs the mechanics of each Federal election. For Provincial (State) elections there are similar, within Province agencies.
The National Register of Electors is a database of Canadians who are qualified to vote. It contains basic information about each person – name, address, sex and date of birth. Canadians may choose whether or not to have their names listed in the Register. If you are not on the list you can register in person at election time. A cow or a corpse trying to register would have a trying experience and would certainly make the news channels.
As far as I know Elections Canada doesn’t care about the result of an election, only the integrity of the process.
The privacy of all information in the National Register of Electors is protected by the Canada Elections Act and the Privacy Act.
Information in the National Register of Electors can be used only for electoral purposes. Improper use of the information is an offence.
Electronic and procedural safeguards have been put in place to ensure the security of elector information. The Privacy Commissioner has the right, at any time, to audit how information for the National Register of Electors is collected, stored, updated and used to ensure that the elector’s right to privacy is respected.
Under the law, the voters list is shared with registered political parties and members of the House of Commons each year, as well as with candidates during an electoral event. The information shared consists only of electors’ names and addresses. By law, parties and members of the House of Commons may use this information for communicating with electors, such as in soliciting contributions and recruiting members. Improper use of the information contained in a voters list is an offence.
Every elector has the right to exclude his or her name from the National Register of Electors or to prevent the transfer of his or her name to the provinces or territories by writing to the Chief Electoral Officer in Ottawa. You can take your name off the register by mail but you can’t get on the register by mail.
About 17 percent of elector information changes every year. The National Register of Electors is updated with information (name, address, sex and date of birth) supplied by provincial, territorial and federal data sources between electoral events, and by electors themselves during federal electoral events.
Elections Canada has signed agreements with data suppliers, including the Canada Revenue Agency, Canada Post Corporation, Citizenship and Immigration Canada, provincial and territorial registrars of motor vehicles and vital statistics, and provincial electoral agencies with permanent voters lists. Lists of electors from provincial and territorial elections are also used to update the Register. There is no database linkage between Elections Canada and these data suppliers.
Nothing is perfect and perhaps there is skulduggery in our Federal elections. I don’t recall hearing of any in the modern era. I still don’t see how complicated voting machines make the process more reliable or fair. They appear to fall into the category of “Chocolate Teapots” – they look pretty but are dysfunctional.
In Los Angeles, we live in the Third World.
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The big problem in US are the many laws about protecting “disenfranchised” people.
In Italy, my country, the laws allow helpers only for really crippled people (like blinds, amputees, etc.). “I don’t know how to read or write” is not a good reason to have helpers. In the past politicians gave normographers with their names to the illiterate, so they could write the right names in the ballots.
Second, make unlawful for people to submit registrations for others. People must do it for themselves. If they are not able to go to the office how they are supposed to go to the polls?
You could decide to move away from the US traditional “registration” of the voter process and automatically register all the lawful residents of the district and send them home the electoral certificate. This would prevent any later mass registration of voters. There would be some single voter needing to be registered until the election day and they would be easy to screen out.
But mainly, for the Christ sake, make obligatory that to be able to vote one must show up a valid ID card to be able to demonstrate who are you.
If anything, when someone have voted, ink his fingers, so he can not vote again the same day.
The way the electoral procedures and polling station are handled in the US is a joke.
If this is happening are they being prosecuted ? If so, why don’t we see national headlines warning that someone is trying to desecrate our voting sanctuary ?
You do see national headlines. It is at the top of the page. The future is here, not in the dead trees dying media.
We have had success in our poll challenger training. Most attendees are applying
to be credentialed.
We need two levels for watching the polls. One inside to observe the voting process
and one outside to observe the 100 ft. limit and other illegal activities.
After the election, we need training and folks willing to check the voter
registration for fraud. The groups could be formed by county.
Mr. Adams, thank you!! Citizens need trusted advisors.
Regarding software never forget the old expression “give me enough parts and I can fix anything, with software you’re never sure”. It’s just not truthful that voting machine software cannot be hacked. Suppose, for example, the programs are loaded on memory that is “flashable” meaning it can be overwritten. The program is in binary code (the zeros and ones). All that’s needed is to add a date detector and an algorithm to change votes using a randomizer (to insure voting machines don’t show a specific pattern to the the changes). Then, when the polls close and the votes are uploaded, the hacked program overwrites itself removing the date detector and algorithm. This “reverts” the program back to it’s original state. Just about impossible to find unless the machine’s memory is dumped with it’s power off. And this isn’t very likely. Don’t forget, the SEIU run the machines in NV, for example.
At least mechanical voting machines can be set to show if they’ve been tampered but with the software stuff, good luck Amigo.
ATTENTION NEVADANS:
DO NOT BE DUPED into voting for “TPN” (Tea Party of Nevada) candidate Scott Ashjian. The TPN is nothing but a Democrat front group to siphon votes towards career politician and radical leftwinger Harry Reid:
New York Times: Democrats Backing Fake Tea Party Candidates
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/harry-reid-scott-ashjian/2010/10/24/id/374718
Tea Party Knockoffs: Watered Down, Bitter
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/tea-party-knockoffs-watered-down-bitter/
Washington Times: 3rd-party candidates could tip tight races
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/oct/24/3rd-party-candidates-could-tip-tight-races/?page=3
LVRJ: THE POLITICAL EYE: Skeptics question Tea Party of Nevada
http://www.lvrj.com/news/skeptics-question-tea-party-of-nevada-84939927.html
ONLY A VOTE FOR SHARRON ANGLE WILL “REJECT REID”, Chicago-style thuggery and Marxist-style Leftism currently infecting D.C.!
Mr. Adams;
Thanks, I’d never heard of the pork rinds trick before, but I have heard of busing senior citizens out of their retirement home on behalf of “Our NEXT Governor…” to the polling place before taking them to lunch at Sizzler.
If you have a relative in a retirement or (especially), an assisted living home, it might behoove you to visit them and drive them to their polling place so they can cast their ballot yourself.
They might not LIKE Sizzler, see?
If you’re poll-watching and see a bus with a large load of disabled seniors pull up, pay VERY CLOSE attention to who is assisting them, and how.
The Democrat Party has managed to legalize organized crime.
Well, folks, I’ve been on the phone bank at our local Republican Headquarters nearly every week day for the past two and a half weeks, and I phoned over a thousand Democrats, 123 of whom promised me that they would vote for some, if not all of the top-of-the-ticket Republicans on our ballot, and another 73 of whom promised me that they would seriously consider it, because they are disgusted with Obama’s misbehavior, too. I hope that makes your day. It sure gives me encouragement that at least some Democrats are disenchanted with their party’s leaders. (BTW, I phoned a few hundred Republicans, too, and ALL of them promised me that they are defonitely going to vote, and for our full slate of Republican candidates.)
I’ve done my part to win this election. Have you done yours?
And what’s more, besides agreeing that they would defonitely vote, they promised me that they would definitely vote, too. I’m so excited.
Good job, Dianne. With hundreds like you all over the country, we may be able to overcome the crooks.
Don’t just be a poll watcher. Judge of Elections is an elected offfice at least in PA. Be a Judge of Elections, I am. It is hard work dealing with a suspicious public, both D & R, but you can make sure all the rules are followed and that everyone is treated equally.
Christian, I have read in the past few days of machines that “mysteriously” came up with Democrat straight ticket results, when the voter tried four times to pull the Republican straight ticket.
I have read about Democrats in Cincinnati driving seniors in high school to an “event” in which they were given an “education” on how to vote for the first time, by an “example” ballot that only contained the Democrat names, then were driven to vote and given a Democratic leaflet on all the real candidates they should vote for.
I have read that in Nevada, they are giving away Starbucks gift cards and free food to vote for Harry Reid.
The “ground game” around the country by ACORN and SEIU is to cheat, steal, defraud, and turn our voting process into a banana republic mirrored election process across this country. And the DOJ has openly declared that it will sit on its hands and do nothing about it, if it runs in one direction. They will ONLY become involved, if it runs in the other direction…and I don’t mean by race, creed or color. I mean…to favor whomever is the furthest left candidate in the race.
The journolista media cabal will bury every story, distort every fact, hide every truth…along the same favoritism lines. Against these odds, we, the people…must try to overcome in order to obtain free and fair election results.
This Tuesday we must hold a national day to restore Truth and Honor. And do so, knowing that our entertainment industry , our information stream, our academic institutions and our very own Department of Justice…are aligned against us.
If there is a more important date in our history than this Tuesday, I can’t think of it at the moment.
It will be interesting to compare the final polls against the vote totals. Anyone want to bet that the tight races will show a surge in the actual votes only for Democrats, and none will show gains for Republicans?
My mom recently remarked that it is very upsetting that, until now, she never felt that she had to worry that her vote wouldn’t be counted or that fraudulent votes by sleazy Democrat organizations would negate her votes for Republicans. Apparently that has become a grave concern to a lot of senior citizens, who were already terrifed that Democrats are going to strip them of their Social Security and Medicare benefits to redisdribute their benefits to people who haven’t earned them, like welfare queens and illegal aliens.
I share your concerns. Votes for Republicans in this elections will be votes to protect senior citizens. Only fools will refuse to acknowledge that fact.
Mr. Adams,
Thanks for this incredibly useful information. I am going to be a first-time poll watcher in this coming election. Although I am going to attend a training session this week, I have been scouring the Internet for as much info as I can about the duties and about our election laws so I will be prepared. I will forward your article to the other poll watchers as well, and if I am able to bring it up at the training session, I will.
More INVOLVEMENT of everyone, in the process from registration to actually counting the votes is the BEST prevention. Get involved BETWEEN elections, volunteer, and keep at it. Work with candidates that have as a campaign issue, prevent and prosecution of Voter Fraud. And get into the “inside” of your local election boards. Some places it’s a matter of getting hired, others it is an appointed position, however it is done, get involved. An educated and involved citizenry is the first line of defense against tyranny.
Something the Girl Scouts used to teach and I think the Boy Scouts still do.
The worst way to count votes is buy computer. Computers are too easy to compromise.
elections should be immediately returned to the mechanical voting machine. the roll-ups can be displayed online for verification but the original tally sheets taken from the machine will have to be carefully authenticated and preserved. the machines should be locked and secured after the election for re-verification.
Well if they’re going to fight dirty, maybe we should counter with a few dirty tricks of our own- run interference on these mass voter vans.
The problem with that idea is that instead of covering the reason for the “dirty tricks of our own,” the press will only cover the “dirty tricks” and make sure it appears that the poor, innocent, put upon lefties have done nothing to deserve such treatment from the evil tea party/conservative/republican/wingnuts.
And, because our society has become so used to taking the press at its word without bothering to check the facts, we could wind up with voters going against our folks simply because they think we’re mean people who will stoop to anything to get power. Even though evidence clearly shows there are far more folks on the left obsessed with their own power and willing to do anything to keep it than there ever have been on the right.
If you’re going to cheat – and I don’t care for whom, I want you in prison. The only government I will accept is one that reflects the will of the citizens as expressed in honest elections.
Anything else is a sham and a fraud.
No cheating, just preventing the other guy from cheating. Anything that slows them down and wastes their time interferes with their ability to operate, and at the very least, limits the damage they can do.
I’ve learned over the years that democrats can only win when they cheat. But by far I think I am most outraged by the democrats deliberate disenfranchisement of our military vote. No words can describe my disgust!
The effort to suppress military votes has been going on for a long time. I remember one of the big deals in the 2000 election was the counting of military absentee votes. Folks on the left sure didn’t want to have to wait for all those to trickle in. Why? Because the military tends to lean toward the GOP. And sure enough, years later, all the counting, all the conjecture, all the crying and fussing and childish behavior on the left was for naught. Because more than one non-partisan group has come out and said that Bush DID win the popular vote in Florida and won the 2000 election fair and square.
Has that changed the nasty attitude of the anti-Bush left? Nope. No matter the evidence to the contrary they will forever claim Bush was not elected legally and push the idea that Gore was robbed. Forget the fact that Gore wound up coming out of the whole deal stinkin’ like a rose with Nobel prizes, Oscars, and millions of dollars made on the imaginary global warming wave.
Bush was treated like the slow kid in class for eight years, Gore was given consolation prizes by the millions, yet the left STILL can’t let it go. Which is part of why they’re so vicious in their vote fraud today.
Moinca-want some answers-Harry Greeds son Rory, now a losing candidate for governor of Nevada(to a HISPANIC republican-one of those guys Hairy said wasnt supposed to exist.) Rory is a Clark county commisioner-they were the ones who gave the contract to the SEIU. Now trace how much money is going from the SEIU not only to Hairy, but to the so-called “tea party” candidate who isnt.
Simple. Watch for Republicans.
So Republicans shouldn’t be allowed to vote? That does seem to be the attitude in Houston’s Ripley House voting location. It’s also illegal.
No-ooooooo, Republicans shouldn’t be allowed to commit voter fraud. Your victimhood is relentless.
Hi Kyber,
Born Senseless will collect certified lawn chocolates as that vocalized ripping sound projects from an otherwise useless orifice/cesspool/broken spirit.
Such as –
Wow Really
Uh . . .
October 23, 2010 – 4:02 pm
Rip!
Hey, how many votes does Persons Galore get?
Partial short list “You People” Count -
Wow Really
“…you people…”
October 20, 2010 – 4:14 pm
Praetorian
“…a bit inconvenient for you people…”
July 29, 2010 – 6:18 pm
Praetorian
“…rough eight-years for you people (i.e. fascists).”
July 3, 2010 – 8:46 pm
119. miriam rove
“…you people are mind bugling…”
June 22, 2010 – 2:05 pm
You could team up with How Silly and a long list of self-created self-important Persons Galore and rule over yourself. Why not let fraud rule fraud? Need more votes? Just make up more Persons Galore!
What about the Funhouse Mirror and Alice The Twilight Zone Dummy. Are such objects voting booth ready too?
Van Jones is Green with your $$$$. Mr. President can’t get a hot dog to support him on Coney Island.
What’s a Modern Kick Me Liberal to do?
Lie. Whatever.
Mr. Lucky
“. . . lawn sausages. . . ”
January 4, 2009 – October 27, 2010 – every day around 7:04 PM.
How Silly got ran over by a lawn mower? That’s where How Silly has gone!
Too bad… It/he/she seemed a bit more playful than the Standard Issue Persons Galore.
Best stay in the cesspool Born Senseless. Lots of opportunities there. No lawn mowers.
So Who’s next?
Whatever.
I do not believe we are adequately prepared for this issue. Despite the efforts of Mr. Adams and others, folks on the GOP side have not taken these situations as serious as they should have. I think it’s going to result in some problems next Tuesday. Just who decided it would be a good idea to allow SEIU members do technical work on voting machines for the State of Nevada I’d sure like to know. Where I come from that’s a real conflict of interest. And we all know how ethical and upstanding some folks in SEIU are. Nevada isn’t the only place that’s going to see vote problems next week. I’d bet my non-existent lottery winnings on it.
In fact, I predict Patty Murray in Washington state will wind up winning after several recounts ala the Franken Fiasco. I hope not. But if one looks as how Al Franken managed to get that seat in the Senate it’s not a huge leap to see Murray coming out right after election day behind Rossi only to magically pull ahead as districts “find” missing votes.
Until we are willing to make a big enough deal about the outright theft of votes which has routinely taken place in districts all over the country in recent years, we are going to continue to lose elections.
For all their blathering and bleating about how Bush did not win the popular vote in 2000, the left seems very unwilling to admit they themselves have been perpetrating some pretty serious vote fraud for many years. I’ve always found it darkly humorous that the left calls for “one man, one vote” when they can’t seem to ensure that their supporters ONLY vote once.
After all, wasn’t the first Daley administration in Chicago notorious for finding votes for JFK? If all the dead folks who have voted for lefty politicians over the years were to come back to life all at one time, I bet we’d have some serious overpopulation problems in some lefty strongholds around this nation.
Despite the amazing work by Mr. Adams and others, the issue of vote fraud, conservative voter disenfranchisement and/or intimidation, along with the outright suppression of military votes continue to be real problems. To me, it’s just disgusting and cannot be allowed to continue. It flies in the face of everything this country stands for.
I would suggest to Chairman Steele and those who are in charge of the GOP, the Tea Party folks, Gov. Palin and those who actually have some pull on the national political stage really should be putting some serious effort over the next week and especially the next two years to get this issue under control. ACORN is not dead, nor are other groups willing to lie, cheat, steal, whatever, to give Obama another term and keep conservatives from having any real say in the governance of this country.
If we do not take this issue seriously and fight back we are going to continue to lose elections. And the presidential election in 2012 is one we absolutely cannot lose. The future of this nation and the safety of its people are at stake.
Very thoughtful comments. I am restored.
Very nicely stated, Monica. My compliments on an outstanding comment.
You might be interested in this story from national review online.
http://www.nationalreview.com/battle10/251119/exclusive-patrick-murphys-campaign-linked-fictitious-voter-office-scandal-thomas-sha
What’s the difference between a poll watcher and a loiterer? Seriously. If I hang around the polls to watch, can’t they throw me out as a loiterer? Is there some sort of permit you need to be a poll watcher?
I dunno. Ask the NBPP. They had that whole “poll watcher” thing worked out pretty good. According to them, standing in front of a polling place with a billy club was all part of their “poll watcher” job.
lol. thanx
Poll watchers in my county (TN) are trained by a member of the local Board of Elections; poll watchers’ names are turned in to the Board of Elections several days prior to the election and they are given a letter with their name on it to show to the election official at the precinct where they will be watching to establish their bona fides, also a simple name badge without any political fol-de-rol on it. We were instructed to not try to correct any violations we see, like a candidate’s t-shirt being worn into a polling place by a voter, but to inform the official of the violation. If assistance is given a voter by the election officials, we are to stand a reasonable distance away and observe the actions. We have the cell phone # of the Bd of Elections chief if there is a problem. My phone also has a camera. Tomorrow should be interesting!
I know this game. How about you add voter intimidation by GOP poll watchers. http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/10/27/762442/poll-observers-upset-voters.html
Ok, Brian. Can you give me some examples this year of Republicans/Conservatives buying votes via gift cards and/or food? How about you find me some examples this year of ballots already marked with republican candidates’ names. And how about you find me some examples EVER of Republicans standing in front of polling places with weapons.
Yep, there probably are some folks who were made uncomfortable by republican poll watchers. But I defy you to find a single Republican thug hanging out in front of a polling place with a weapon. Were that to occur, I guarantee you they’d have been convicted and imprisoned immediately. And that’s if they survived the behind kicking they’d have gotten from incensed libby voters.
Keep that double standard held up high. Goodness knows the left is working it overtime this year.
Oh and keep the examples in recent decades please. Going back to the old South ain’t going to cut it. Republicans haven’t been allowed to burp without someone asking them if they were racist in decades. I’m not going to allow you to bring up the bad old days of segregation and that sort of hate as examples of how bad republicans are TODAY.
Historically, poor and working class folks vote Democrat. And there are very many more working class and poor people than there are rich people. Therefore, logic dictates that the larger the voter turnout, the more likely it is that Democrats will win, and less likely that Republicans will win. Therefore, Republican have a vested interest in suppressing voter turnout. Creeping around polling stations in poor and minority districts and intimidating those voters is a time-honored tradition for Republicans, because they can claim that they are being objective observers when in fact they are just trying to scare legitimate voters away whom they suspect will vote Democrat.
Yeah, John. Because that’s exactly what happened in Philly, right? Those guys were there to intimidate the poor working class folks and keep them from voting democrat. Sure. That’s right. Man, are you guys EVER going to grow up?
The left is NOT the friend of the working class. They have a vested interest in keeping you right where you are or worse. If you never stop taking government hand outs and subsidies, you will NEVER be concerned about lower taxes and growing a business. You’ll continue to vote for the folks who promise to keep those freebies coming. And you will never know what it feels like to grow beyond what you’ve got right now. In fact, as things continue, you might just get to see what it’s like to lose what independence you have and wind up needing even more freebies to keep on going. Just think, no aspirations toward something better, because if you work too hard and earn too much, what you got will be taken to give to someone who needs it just a little more than you do.
As long as folks like you continue to believe in this lefty mythology regarding who wants the little guy to succeed and who doesn’t, you’ll never get ahead. The only folks who get ahead in a leftist world are those who prop up the party power and politicians. But if you’re ok with the lowest common denominator and never achieving anything you can be proud of, keep voting democrat. I’m sure they’ll have no problem keeping you right where you are. You might not ever be able to succeed on your own, but at least you’ll get to keep all that free government stuff.
Mad Monica,
You go girl. It amazes me how some people cannot understand what “entitlements” have done to the less fortunate in the world. Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime! I guess some people would rather eat Soylent Green than work hard for real food.
This stealing of elections has to stop. Career politicians do not have our best interest at heart. Remove the incumbents. Term Limits for Congress!
If you’ve got nothing to hide, why are you worried about being seen?
Oooh. This looks fun.
Historically, poor and working class folks vote Democrat. And there are very many more working class and poor people than there are rich people. Therefore, logic dictates that poor and working class folk are more easily bribed and intimidated. Creeping around polling stations in poor and minority districts and intimidating and bribing those voters is a time-honored tradition for Democrats, because they can claim that they are being objective observers when in fact they are just trying to scare and bribe legitimate voters whom they suspect will vote Republican. Therefore, Democrats have a vested interest in suppressing the poor and working class.
Folks, the risk of voter fraud affects everyone. There are people on both sides of the aisle who let their enthusiasm steer them in the wrong direction. Just look at myth buster’s comment above: “maybe we should counter with a few dirty tricks of our own…” I am in no way saying that myth buster would commit voter fraud, but his comment is evidence of an ‘ends justify the means’ attitude that I consider to be a slippery slope.
I’m a computer programmer and was a poll watcher in 2004, because we suspected Republicans of plotting massive voter fraud. I’m particularly interested in electronic voting machines. I think the issue is best summed up by this XKCD cartoon:
http://xkcd.com/463/
Real-world voter fraud is certainly possible on a small scale, but pulling it off to a degree that would actually influence elections would require such a huge conspiracy that it’s very likely that it would be discovered. Corruption of electronic voting results, however, does not require huge numbers of people. And electronic voting machines can be compromised just as easily by incompetence as by intentional fraud. I think open-source code and hardware is the answer. At the very least, the machines should be subject to the same degree of scrutiny as Las Vegas slot machines.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2006/03/16/GR2006031600213.html
By dirty tricks, I meant only things that interfere with the ability of their machines to operate. Nothing violent, nothing fraudulant, just major time wasters.
Sorry, I did understand the gist of your comment and did not mean to imply that you personally would be doing anything inappropriate.
However I do think that poll watchers who are both politically zealous and suspicious of wrongdoing by the other side need to be careful not to inadvertently engage in they type of action they mean to be protecting against.
Honestly I am excited to see this type of article on PJM, and to see PJM readers interested in it. In 2004, when Diebold and other companies were rolling out voting machines with huge security holes, I didn’t see much in the way of concern on the right.
The only way vote fraud reform is going to happen effectively is if it’s a bipartisan effort, and I think it is an ideal area for Democrats and Republicans to join forces.
And lookee here, who is it that has been contracted (at least in Nevada) to fix those electronic voting machines that were registering straight party line votes for Democrats when the actual live voter pushed the lever for Republicans? Why, none other than the SEIU, the far-left step sister of ACORN, to whom Obama and Holder and the Democratic Party are all beholden.
Might as well have the Mafia in charge of slot machine maintenance.
There are strong doubts as to the validity of the story:
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/25511115/detail.html
“Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax said those claims were “patently false” and said at no time did any of those voters report the incident to staff at their polling location.”
The claims are probably false, but geokstr has a point. Organizations with political ties have no business servicing voting machines.
I wouldn’t trust the Secretary of State of Nevada, Ross Miller, as far as I could throw a voting machine. He was elected as part of the “Secretary of State Project” funded by George Soros, specifically designed to get Progressives in the most important battleground states in the position that “oversees” voting in the states.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Secretary_of_State_Project
The left understands and loves what one of their idols, Josef Stalin once supposedly said (see update at bottom of the link):
“You know, comrades,” says Stalin, “that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.”
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/dubiousquotes/a/stalin_quote.htm
I wouldn’t doubt that Larry Lomax, Clark County Registrar, is in Reid’s pocket either. Note that Media Matters calls the charges “baseless”, which is as good an endorsement of their validity as I can imagine.
Given the political environment in the election process in Nevada, I’d go to the media too, before I’d trust those two. Recall that the Minnesota Secretary of State who kept counting votes over and over until Franken “won” was also one of those elected by Soros’ Project. And it has since been discovered that many more felons voted illegally there than Franken’s margin of victory.
The narrative that democrats are for the little guy and republicans are for greed and corporate fat cats has been swallowed whole by the media and the majority of the citizens in this country. Just watch next Tuesday, when you will hear everything from how the poll watchers are disenfranchising minorities, how looking twice at the signature of a latino is meant to scare away hispanic voters, and how the republicans engineered the rainstorm to keep the elderly and poor away from the polls.
Meanwhile, the democrats will use their NBP party thugs and SEIU goons to really scare away voters, bus in hordes of homeless, retarded, illegal aliens, illiterates, felons, etc and tell them how to vote, “resurrect” the dead to vote democrat, and fix the machines so all votes register as democrat.
It is as deTocqueville predicted, that democarcy in America will end when the populace sees that it can vote itself largesse from the public treasury. With the democrats promising trillions in goodies to the looters and moochers of society, we are fast approaching the level of a Marxist 3rd world country.
Unfortunately, I see little hope in republicans fighting against this: they are more concerned with being compassionate, moderate or reaching across the aisle than to stir up the pot and fight for the good of their consituencies.
Tain-already happened to soem extent-Dims in Illinios FAILED to mail out absentee ballots to our SOLDIERS(any guesses WHY?), but there was a reporter who took pictures in MARION FEDERAL PRISON(which houses the nations worse prisoners, replacing Alcatraz) of absentee ballots making it into a prison where no ballots are supposed to be in the first place. Just one small example-BTW-the military absentee issue HAS NOT been resolved in 9 different states. Ill,Pa, and NY are amongst them. Ill and Pa have close senate races and both have several close house races.
‘With the democrats promising trillions in goodies to the looters and moochers of society, we are fast approaching the level of a Marxist 3rd world country.”
In spite of digging a three trillion dollar hole, they openly and obviously shafted one of the most faithful groups they ever bought off, the elderly. Not only did they declare there was no inflation for the second year running in spite of the fact that it cost seniors about 5% a year more to run in place, they shafted them out of the healthcare that is a primary focus of their lives at this point.
The democrats may well have gotten to where they are in large part by buying off various groups with promises, but they now don’t have the ability to deliver on those promises and they’ve tipped their hand as to who they intend to throw under the bus. Brainwashing the youth has been their other steller success, and with unemployment among the under thirty set running at least twice the official rate many of those with blinders on are shedding them. One big whack at the funding for their favorite programs, a whack that sheds thousands of highly paid Federal jobs, and the democrat party will collapse into fights between the groups that are afraid of being next under the bus or next no longer employed in Federal jobs.
Regards
I hope that the vote fraudsters understand where their actions are leading.
The ballot is a citizen’s way of giving his stamp of legitimacy to his government. Make balloting worthless and government loses its legal and moral legitimacy.
If the ballot doesn’t work to correct misgovernance, what tools does a citizen have? Answer: there are very few that remain non-violent.
Illegitimate elections will lead to civil war.
The Obama regime will try to nip that in the bud by silencing Murdoch-owned media, talk radio and blogs such as this one under the guise of silencing “hate speech”.
How will that nip it in the bud? You silence the dissenting media, people know they are not living in a Republic anymore. Forget about nipping it in the bud, silencing the dissenting media will instantly instigate a civil war, regardless of whether or not the elections were legitimate.
I sure hope you’re right, but I am not so optimistic.
Nixon actually identified the incipient “Tea Party” decades ago. He called them the “silent majority”, the ones who played by the rules, worked hard, payed their taxes, and ignored politics. Back then, there was nothing else but the old media, who were already left-leaning, but the government was not nearly as oppressive and monstrous as it is now. It finally took the Republicans to turn into Democrat-lite under Bush the RINO and the far left to take control of the Democrats under Obama/Pelosi/Reid/Soros to bring the movement to a head.
Fox, the internet and talk radio are only about 15 years old, and the right finally gets access to the other side of stories, and stories that the old media simply didn’t report on. They are also the way that we can now organize, especially the internet (algore be praised), something we never had before. If government controls the net, something that they’ve made noises about in the last two years, we may still get some information from Fox and talk radio, at least for a while, but how will we organize and communicate with each other without the internet? Cell-phones? Telegraph? Short-wave radio?
Another suggestion.
Take a camera or use your cell phone. If not illegal or dangerous get a picture when possible.
The Democrats have yet to adapt to the Information Age. They keep getting tripped up in their thuggery, their attacks and their false accusations by video and audio evidence. It’s worth more than a thousand words.
Remember to SALUTE:
SIZE – How many? – ACTIVITY – What are they doing? – LOCATION – Where did it happen? – UNIT – Any identifying clothing or organization? – TIME (and date) – When were they seen? – EVIDENCE – Take a picture!
Email the information to the sources you know would have an interest: pajamasmedia, Beck, Breitbart, Malkin, Fox, etc.
The Left depends on shadows. Bring a light.
IN 2004, in Philadelphia, 2 hours before the polls were supposed to open(Pa does not have early voting) , a polling machine worker turned on a couple of voting machines and found, much to her suprise, that 2400 votes had already been inputted into the machines. They just ALL happened to be for John Kerry. And these machines were maintained by none other than an SEIU local, just like in Nevada. First things first-(1) no more early voting (2) every machine gets vetted BEFORE any voting takes place, by officials of both parties.(3) RICO laws MUST be used against not only those who engage in vote fraud, but staffs and politicans who benefit as a result of fraud.
And by vetted, we mean one inspector from each party casts a ballot and verifies that it has been correctly recorded.
I’ve said it before, and I repeat it now again: in an electronic age it’s electronic fraud that brings in the bacon, not so much booth or specific voter-related electoral fraud (unless ther’s a plan to really go Third World now).
It’s at the County and State Election Boards/Commissions that the electronic transfer (from local polling stations), storage, tabulation, and transmission to any States’ agency legally charged with reporting the night’s results, where real fraud can take place. The computer programs written to produce such results can be compromised.
So, here’s my question: who is there to double check the Counties and States’ totals as they’re being reported throughtout the night of the election (as results pile up from local polling stations) as to the accuracy of and correctness in reporting what actually took place at the individual polling stations?
In short, who’s there to monitor all these electronic transmissions and tabulations?
Exactamundo.
Mr. Adams, this is great advice, but no matter what we do, the Socialist, America-hating, anti-democratic (but pro-Democratic – note the capitalization) MSM will accuse us of being racist, xenophobic bigots denying blacks and Hispanics the right to vote, and they will get sympathetic far-left judges to back them.
And if we dare protest, goons will be sent out to attack us, and the same scumbag MSM people will blame it on us. It might even be a pretext for the Obama junta to silence conservative media via “hate speech” laws.
Short of a coup to overthrow these leftist scum, we cannot win, and that is the sad truth.
If it takes some goons getting shot to secure liberty, it’s worth it. Just make sure you’re ready for trouble. If we need a revolution, we’ll have one.
Here is my take. I just finished a lesson with my son about the Revolutionary War. You’d be surprised over the similarity of the argument made by the early dissenters circa 1760′s (the Sons of Liberty group for example). The effort morphed from a peaceful, lawful discussion of loyal British subjects complaining about the distant and unresponsive government into the American Revolution. It took fifteen years of being denied the right to be heard before the colonialists turned to violence. However, this time it will be less as we soon realize the liberals are not beyond lies, theft and voter fraud/election corruption to steal political seats.
Here is my post-
http://truthandcommonsense.com/2010/10/27/stealing-the-elections-why-early-voting-computer-voting-booths-and-corrupt-officials-will-save-the-day-and-why-revolution-is-inevitable/
Read the book.
Democrats and RINO’s have been setting us up for the major fraud that will occur Nov 2. You may not recognize the world you live in when you wake up Nov 3. The fraud will be beyond pervasive, it will be all consuming and as Barry and his fellow mobsters are celebrating their “victory” those who opposed them will find themselves backed into a corner with the only option’s being fight or submit.
Say goodbye to your freedom, it’s already gone; we’re just waiting for the coup de grace – minus the grace that heathen cannot muster.
Special thanks to you “3rd” party people. That’s worked out rather well… for Democrats and RINOs.
This is one of those insidious crimes for which there seems to be no true remedy. By the time anyone decides to address an allegation, the election is determined, and, unless there is a recall, it is virtually impossible to correct the outcome. Right now we are hearing about automated voting machines in Nevada selecting democrat when the voter elected Republican. Why aren’t these machines checked out ahead of time? Where is the quality control mechanism in place in one of the most important activities in which an American citizen can engage??? I find this ridiculous that no one addresses this in the off years. 1 week ahead of election day is just too late to effect the proper corrections. The fraud contemplated will indeed be effected and we will grasp no more than 10-15% of what’s there. This is sad.
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For those of you with camera phones: If you see someone doing wrong, also take their picture! If nothing else, it helps in identification.
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As with all other things, “there’s an app for that”, http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voter-fraud-mobile/id398658643?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo=4
I am a poll watcher. Took the test, read the statutes, took notes, and reported errors, omissions, and lapses in good practices. Did the poll clerks and judges like it? NO! Did the administrator of the elections for the county have heartburn? YES! When you first put a saddle on a wild horse, it bucks in panic. This is their wake up call and we have 24 months now to clean up the rolls before 2012. Most of the early voting is done and we are in the ready for November 2. The simple presence of a poll watcher makes poll staff weak in the knees BECAUSE many have never been questioned before. Please volunteer. Please get and stay informed with your county laws. Your notes are legal documents that can be used in a court of law. Guard them. We want a true count. We want enforcement of protocol. We want a true vote.
Do we only look for voter fraud in democratic districts and lower income districts or do we have poll watchers in republican, more affluent districts. Practice what you preach.
Since 2000, between 80 and 90% of voting “anomalies” have benefitted Democrats – this, of course, cannot statistically be a coincidence.
The article mentions “Mass illegal assistance” – they have no idea how literal this issue is. In Arizona, a front group for radical Democrat, Raul Grijalva (the man who called for a boycott of the very state he “represents”), called La Familia Vota, employed illegal aliens to go door to door in heavily hispanic neighborhoods. This group then dumped tens of thousands of registration forms on Registrar’s offices across the state, but primarily in the Yuma, AZ area. As of last week, 65% of these forms have been dismissed as fraudulent, which is unprecedented
I know your advice is working, I was standing in the local graveyard in camo fatigues holding a nightstick and got arrested!
The charge – Intimidating Democratic voters.