Violence Policy Center: Reinstate the Black Codes?
Calls to limit the access of African-Americans to firearms specifically echo the “black codes” adopted immediately at the end of the Civil War. These laws were passed in southern states in response to the Thirteenth Amendment’s outlawing of slavery, and were specifically engineered to circumscribe the civil rights and liberties of newly freed slaves and freemen. The codes assured the second-class status of African-Americans, and were a forerunner to decades of “separate but equal” segregation under Jim Crow laws — which were only overcome during the civil rights movement of the 1960s. Among the codes commonly passed were laws that forbid or restricted the ownership of firearms by African-Americans. The codes were “justified” with the explanation that African-Americans did not have the same rights as white citizens.
The Ku Klux Klan and similar groups were active in attempting to disarm blacks in the post-war South, and United States v. Cruikshank gave paramilitary racist mobs carte blanche to disarm African-American communities. This left them nearly defenseless to decades of lynchings, assaults, indignity, and, in several dozen instances, full-fledged “race riots” that are more accurately described as massacres. Most of these rampages occurred with the full knowledge of local and state governments. The 1898 Wilmington race riot was carried out with the full knowledge and indifference of both North Carolina Governor Daniel Lindsay Russell and President William McKinley.
One can only hope that Josh Sugarman, executive director of the Violence Policy Center, is completely ignorant of the many mob actions and the thousands of deaths that resulted from laws that stripped African-Americans of their rights and liberties. Considering his long-running and strident anti-gun advocacy, it seems likely that Sugarman and the organization are well aware of history but made a political calculation in asking that African-Americans be disarmed.
The goal of the Violence Policy Center in this report is the goal of the group in every report it has ever issued: an erosion of gun rights for all Americans, with the ultimate goal being the prohibition of all firearms save those under state control. Towards that totalitarian end, the VPC does not seem to have any qualms about advocating a return to racist policies that left African-American communities helpless targets for most of a century. Nor does Sugarman or his group explain how disarming law-abiding blacks will make them anything other than victims for those that refuse to follow existing prohibitions against murder.
The David Bohnett Foundation, the Joyce Foundation, and the Public Welfare Foundation were all contacted this week by Pajamas Media and asked whether or not they stood behind the Violence Policy Center’s call to limit the rights and liberties of African-Americans.
Not one of these organizations has responded with a condemnation of the VPC’s conclusions.
Say, do you think Eric Holder…? Naah, forget it. He couldn’t possibly have had that in mind.
Perhaps the VPC’s diktat should be reworded thus:
It displays better parallel structure, at any rate.
We have a similar problem with black gun crime in Britain. Areas of cities designated ‘black’ show an appalling imbalance between themselves and the general population in use of violence and in particularly use of handguns.
Oh, I forgot to say that following a massacre at a schoool in Dunblane, Scotland where a white paedophile killed numerous schoolchildren, handguns are now illegal.
Yep, try going to a gun dealer asking for a nine millimetre pistol or anything else with a handle which fits in a pocket and shoots bullets and you’d be met by a blank stare.
Has anyone figured that if a person wants a gun to perpetrate crime he’s not going to be too upset that he commits a crime to get it in the first place?
Since Thomas Hamilton’s murderous spree and the kneejerk banning, gun crime has soared and it’s definately a black phenomena.
Law in Britain is in a mess. Following the murder of black youth Stephen Lawrence and the following uber high profile and highly politicised Mcpherson inquiry, police are shackled by accusations of institutional racism at every turn. This has lead to an obsessive drive in ‘diversity issues’ which in many cases takes precedence over actually catching criminals.
Yet young black males are dying. Police may be being ‘nice to them’ but they’re certainly not stopping them killing each other.
I’ve tried to engage black friends and aquaintances on this topic but so far all that’s happened is angry denial, accusation of racism and basically an end to the friendships. Thats how bad its got in this atmosphere of self delusion and censorship of open and honest debate.
Question: In Denmark gun ownership is high, yet gun crime is low.
In areas of Pakistan gun ownership is high and gun crime is high.
In areas of Africa gun ownership is high and gun crime is high.
In post war Britain access to guns was laughably easy, the place was awash with weapons of all descriptions. Many were ex service revolvers, many souvenirs from overseas combat areas yet gun crime was incredibly low.
Is this a racial thing that banning will have no effect whatsoever?
And if banning doesn’t work what will?
A degree of honesty would be a good start.
“Blacks in the United States are disproportionately affected by homicide. For the year 2007, blacks represented 13 percent of the nation’s population, yet accounted for 49 percent of all homicide victims.”
It’s been a couple of years since I’ve looked the numbers (and I don’t have time right now), but blacks in the United States are also disproportionately responsible for homicide (something like being 12% of the population vs. committing 25% of the violent crime and 50% of the homicides).
Whereas gun owners represent 15% to 30% of the population (depending on whose figures you believe), and commit only 7% of the violent crime, but something like 60% of the homicides.
So reducing black’s access to firearms has a certain perverse logic to it. A random black person is more likely to be a violent criminal than a random gun owner. I leave it as an exercise to the reader to crunch the numbers general gun owners vs. black gun owners and homicide.
Now, did the VPC say they want to reduce just black’s access to firearms, or everybody’s access to firearms? I think you’re reading too much into that last sentence of theirs.
For an organization to make a public declaration that suggests an entire race be denied the same level of constitutional protections as others is both shocking and bewildering.
I don’t get that from the linked paper. To my eye, the section in question is perfectly consistent with the existing liberal policy to disarm all Americans, regardless of race.
I’m guessing here that what they want to do is reduce/eliminate firearm ownership among all races, not just to blacks (I didn’t see that specifically in the text). A variant on “it’s for the children”–this time “it’s for the blacks” that we must give up a freedom.
Uh, when the VPC talks about reducing black people’s access to firearms their solution is to make firearms less accessible to everyone. Just so you know.
Upon reading the VPC paper, it does not seem to me that the VPC is calling for African-Americans to be restricted from having firearms. The VPC prescription seems far more general.
“For blacks, like all victims of homicide, guns—usually handguns—are far and away the number one murder tool. Successful efforts to reduce America’s black homicide toll must put a focus on reducing access to firearms.”
I read that as calling for a general reduction in society’s access to firearms. The argument seems to be that if nobody has guns, black people won’t be shot.
Bob Owens – You did not mention the 14th Amendment. The raison d’etre for the Amendment was that blacks in the former Confedracy were being denied the right to own guns. Thus, they could not defend themselves against depredations by anti-black elements in those states. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court in the decisions you mention eviscerated the rights and immunities clauses of the 14th Amendment which would have incorporated the Second Amendment into a right states must obey. (And of course, I need not mention Plessy vs. Ferguson which turned the 14th Amendment on its head.)
logdon @ #2 is spot-on by noting the following: “Has anyone figured that if a person wants a gun to perpetrate crime he’s not going to be too upset that he commits a crime to get it in the first place?”
How can anyone think that depriving blacks of access to guns is going to make one wit of a difference in black crime and homicide rates? Criminals will get guns no matter what. (Think Washington DC where gun crime is rampant despite its virtual ban on the private ownership of firearms, the Heller case notwithstanding.) My solution is the opposite: Encourage law abiding blacks to get concealed-carry gun permits and to buy and carry guns. Then, it is possible, that the criminal black element might think twice about taking out innocents. While I agree that is a not a perfect solution I nonetheless think it will reduce crime in black neighborhoods. (For evidence, see John Lott Jr., More Guns Less Crime.)
Finally, Anonymous @ #3: Where did you get your statistic about legal gun owners’ accounting for 60% of homicides? From everything I’ve read, legal gun owners account for almost no crime.
Its not the fault of the guns.
Around 1900-1903 newspapers reported the common use of straight razors among the ghetto dwellers in my town.
When I was growing up in the 1950s and 60s, the fear was that they would ‘cut you’.
Guns werent often used.
Those people are just violent, have always been and getting rid of guns will not change that.
If the left-wingers and its media really cared about the black community (rather than just using them as political tool) we would have seen body-count headlines re: black-on-black murder for the past 40 years in an effort to bring political will to bear and stop the violence. However, the opposite is true. Whenever someone publicly call for justice they are either racists (those of the wrong party) or they are sellouts (those of the correct race)…and the media leads the way in using these pejoratives.
These people deserve justice and peace, yet the tyranny of a few dictate the condition to many. I fail to understand how the actions of the left and the Dems is seen as redemptive.
Adding to logdon’s comment: virtually *every household* in Switzerland possesses a firearm- usually an SG 550 assault rifle which may or *may not* have had select-fire disabled. The Government sells military-caliber ammo to the public at cost and actively sponsors shooting sports.
The crime rate in Switzerland is close to the world’s lowest.
Anonymous said: I read that as calling for a general reduction in society’s access to firearms.
I think Owens knows that. He’s a pretty bright guy.
In this case, I think he’s not very honest.
A better case can be made for arming everyone. Violent criminals, regardless of race, fear an encounter with an armed victim. It is this factor that makes gun free zones so dangerous. Criminals know that in cities with gun bans or severe restrictions on firearms, the law abiding citizens are easy marks.
The problem at Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Ft Hood, and Beslan was not that there were too many guns. It was that there were too few.
I am licensed to carry a concealed weapon. When I go downtown, I carry two. So far, I have not drawn my weapons in anger and hopefully it will never be necessary for me to do so.
Why would anyone deny another citizen their constitutional right to self defense? The suggestion that we should allow constitutional rights based on race is absolutely absurd.
Guns don’t kill people stupid people with access to guns kill people and ethnic groups with a high propensity to lash out violently kill most people especially people of the same ethnic group with whom they usually associate. Which is exactly the situation you have with Black on Black violence and Black violence in general in the USA.
The initial assertion is wrong. The data is put forth not for the purpose of denying an ethnic minority equal protection of the Constitution. That wouldn’t be a reasonable goal of the left in America. The argument is to use the data to show that the Black community bears the unequal burden of guns in America and in order to mitigate that injustice we ALL must give up guns.
To simply deny gun ownership to African-Americans wouldn’t cure the problem. It would be like outlawing guns in Washington DC or Chicago or NYC. The guns would flow into the Black community from outside. Therefore the irrefutable conclusion would be that we should choose to outlaw all gun ownership by all Americans for the good of the minority community.
Too many would find it too easy to agree with the simple solution of taking guns out of the Black community. No, the pernicious plan is to disarm all of us.
“Uh, when the VPC talks about reducing black people’s access to firearms their solution is to make firearms less accessible to everyone. Just so you know.”
The Democratic Party platform in 2008 had a section on guns. After the obligatory pious declaration of support for the Second Amendment, they immediately backtracked to advocacy of “reasonable” restrictions, saying “What works in Cheyenne may not work in Chicago.”
The leftists are fond of talking about “dog whistles”; well, to me that sounds like a big fat dog whistle aimed at suburbanites frightened by what are always euphemistically described as “urban youths.” The only difference between that and Jim Crow is that in the one case, public policy was made in furtherance of racist ideology, while in this case it is turned around, and racism is used as a tool harnessed to the goal of an ideologically driven and oppressive public policy.
Much the same argument is made in favor of unrestricted abortion. The spectre of “unwanted” babies growing up to commit crime is the dog whistle that liberals use to make racists think of poor blacks.
Fascism and progressivism are peas in a pod. Take away racism, nationalism, anti-Semitic, and eugenicism, and modern progressivism is the same as fascism. In pre-war America, the progressives were explicitly racist, anti-Semitic, and eugenicist, and it seems to me they are returning to their roots.
Dear VPC,
You da man!
Your truly,
The Klan
Thank you Mac and Ed Rasimus,
To disarm us all, is the only mission. To degrade the African Community in their efforts towards total disarmament, is a mere price to pay for furthering the ideologies of the VPC.
Mr. Owens:
“One can only hope that Josh Sugarman, executive director of the Violence Policy Center, is completely ignorant of the many mob actions and the thousands of deaths that resulted from laws that stripped African-Americans of their rights and liberties. Considering his long-running and strident anti-gun advocacy, it seems likely that Sugarman and the organization are well aware of history but made a political calculation in asking that African-Americans be disarmed.”
Like he cares.
He’s only following the lead of the NAACP’s Kweisi Mfume, who opined over ten years ago:
“Blacks are disproportionately affected by gun violence
Concerned about the impact of gun-related crimes on black Americans, the N.A.A.C.P. is considering joining cities in lawsuits against gun makers, the association’s president, Kweisi Mfume, said on Saturday. ”We represent a significant constituency that is disproportionately affected by gun violence,” Mr. Mfume said
Source: Associated Press in New York Times, Page A14 Feb 22, 1999″
I posted an open letter to Mfume back in the day asking if he would approve and consent to an embargo on selling firearms to Black people by gun manufacturers.
Unsurprisingly, I never got an answer.
But such is the moonbat mentality, even the Black ones, that they can “out-think” the rest of us into a position utterly undistinguishable from that of the Klu Klux Klan’s…yet still believe that it is conservatives and libertarians who are the racists.
3. Talking about homicides is meaningless. A self-defense killing is a homicide, but no rational person will object to it.
Since there is a higher correlation (independent of race) between violence, drug abuse and alcohlism (as well as sexual, physical and emotional abouse) of children from being raised in a single parent household than there is between guns and crime rates– are they going to advocate the elimination of single parent households?
One of the truest sayings there is is If you outlaw gun only outlaws with have guns!
“…verging on outright racism”?!? WTF? Verging? This is explicit racism. If some prominent Republican said such a thing, he’d be thoroughly pilloried for it! Just try to imagine John McCain saying that during the ’08 campaign! Just try! Your brain just goes “Tilt!” You simply can’t even imagine it! Your mind rejects the thought!
Jesus, but these Leftists are VILE! How about we take it to its logical extreme? How about we completely segregate the blacks? Let’s just pen them away from civilized society and let them kill each other off? Oh, wait! We almost have that now! And the SCOTUS a couple years ago ruled that we no longer need integration in our schools! We’ve come a long way, baby!
I think I’m going to puke!
I’m certain the logic is that yet another gun law is gonna cause gangbangers to gasp “Oh heavens to Murgatroyd, that means I’m gonna have to turn in my heater.”
As noted above, When Guns Are Outlawed…
This is news? Now, if they’ll admit that they think black folk shouldn’t be allowed to breed as well as not being allowed to have firearms and you’ll have them in total accord with the democrat party platform. When did it get to be big news that the left is nothing but a crowd of dimwitted sheep following along behind racist, socialist, elitists?
The democrat party (and its many front organizations) is now and always has been the party of slavery, secession, civil war, the KKK, Jim Crow laws, eugenics laws, anti-Semitism, socialism, the elimination of the Black middle class, and the mass murder of unborn black infants. The only liberalizing they’ve ever done was to include working class white folks on the list of those they call “niggers” per the example of their grand old dean of the Senate.
The democrat party can never reform, it must be destroyed as a national political party with those who have for decades stolen elections and paid out billions in bribes tried for racketeering. It’s time to bring dozens and dozens of RICO cases against these racist SOBs and destroy the democrat party once and for all the same way the National Socialists were outlawed in Germany after WWII. Go after the academic criminals first and there will be so many rats willing to testify to democrat corruption they’ll have open whole new courts like Italy did when finally confronting the Mafia.
Regards
You know, I never thought I’d be in favor of gun control, but I’ve got to agree with this one. Most blacks shouldn’t be allowed to have guns. Neither should anyone else who consistently votes Democrat. By having voted Democrat, they’ve displayed an appalling lack of judgment and a tremendous amount of stupidity. Those two flaws, combined, often lead to violence. Better they should have to do it with a lower level of technology.
Of course, blacks being the hard-working, innovative people they can be when they put their minds to it, I’m sure they can get on quite well without guns. Even industrial-scale mass murder doesn’t really require firearms. Most of the killing done in Rwanda and Burundi during the recent unpleasantness was done with pangas. Where there’s a will, there’s a way…
#25 rashputin:
“Now, if they’ll admit that they think black folk shouldn’t be allowed to breed as well as not being allowed to have firearms and you’ll have them in total accord with the democrat party platform. When did it get to be big news that the left is nothing but a crowd of dimwitted sheep following along behind racist, socialist, elitists?”
Heh…methinks he of the staring eyes and daring hairstyle has grokked exactly WHY the moonbat sweat-lodge is so vociferous in its support for public funding of abortions.
It all dovetails together so, does it not?
Heck, toss in the “War on (some) Drugs”, and you might ALMOST say it was planned, although no-one is so diabolically insane as to have sat down and crafted the whole thing beforehand.
By default then, only progressive social scientists could have come up with policies that oppress those they are trying to “help” so effectively.
Is it still racism if liberals do it?
What is missing in the article, is what has not been done, to really improve the everyday life of blacks.
The democrat party has been holding blacks doen for years. They use the racist card everytime they need to be elected. As long as they keep people, black or white dependent on government handouts, the situation will never improve. Keeping all people in shabby housing, and keeping them on warefare, serves their purpose. There is no reason for most of them to improve their lives. The democrat party knows this, but they hand out enough for them to exist.
I don’t understand why the black leaders let this happen.
Why should people who depend on the government, do anything but get their gov checks and handouts.
They can make more money, dealing in crime and drugs. Some day the black leaders will see what the democratic party has been doing to the black population, and turn away.
This is beginning to emerge, slow but sure. When that time comes, the democrats will be the big losers.
Divid and conquer is their plan.
1. Divide
2. Conquer
Nuff said.
Pops,
Sorry, didn’t even read your response before I put in mine.
Birds of a feather though…
Thanks,
Mark
Since I am one of these people. I need my gun more than as much or more than you people. KNOW what I mean??
Looking at the listed David Bohnett Foundation web site I see it’s important for them that the LA gay community has managed to sever the LAPD’s connections with the Boy Scouts. I guess every boy scout of America is a future homophobic hand gun owner and potential hate crime committer. So, when it comes to black Americans, the Boy Scouts and guns are bad, state paid abortions on demand is good.
Keyboard555 (29)
“I don’t understand why the black leaders let this happen.”
Well, they got to be “black leaders” by helping and encouraging “urban renewal” which took the property of the black middle class after declaring it worthless. This left the black middle class folks who had labored hard for generations to raise themselves to the level self-respect and education that had their community looking up to them as the way to integrate with society at large rather than remaining a separate community. MLK, if you will recall, wasn’t big on the democrat party nor was he supported by the leftists. He did receive a great deal of support and money from both black and white middle class folks who saw the traditional immigrant story of rising by hard work and genuine education as the best route to take once the Jim Crow laws of the democrat majorities in the south were destroyed.
Those who wanted a more radical approach and/or a path for themselves to take over the power once the white democrats were disemboweled by the end of Jim Crow, wanted the black middle class those who had built it destroyed and themselves empowered by political means rather than by economic or other traditional means. So, the “black leaders” as everyone now calls them, aren’t leaders at all. They are, in fact, surrogates for the traditional southern and eastern democrats who have been trying to eliminate black folks and all the other folks they don’t like ever since the Civil War robbed them of their brute force methods. To replace those tools, they’ve made it impossible for a huge percentage of the black male population to ever vote against them (or for them for that matter) by making them felons, made it almost impossible for black folks to rise out of the welfare plantation with an intact family (something the black middle class and MLK demanded black folks respect as fundamental to black progress), and made it easy for black folks to do what is best for the democrat party and difficult to do what is best for their own people.
So, the “black leaders” don’t let this happen, they make it happen as it is their way to maintain control and power after wrenching it away from a conservative black middle class that believed in traditional American values and hard work. That’s why we have crap like “black” cable in place of the excellent black film industry that existed through the fifties, crap like “black” music in place of black musicians dominating popular music through the late fifties and well into the sixties, and “black” studies instead of black universities that led the nation in science off and on from the twenties well into the sixties.
Regards
Identifying, targeting, and removing the cultural factors that most specifically contribute to this problem
Indeed.
I had a relative that worked in the NYC prison system. He said most of the inmates were raised without a father.
The Baby Mama lifestyle does not work.
Check this out, on Chicago’s city gun restriction law, discussed in Second City Cop blog (no way to link directly to the post).
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/ct-news-chicago-gun-ban-20100129,0,3152673.story
This shouldn’t be any surprise. Gun control in this country has it’s roots in racism.
For those of you not up on the minutiae, a registered, licensed, legal gun dealer is known as a Federal Firearms Licensee, normally shortened to FFL.
When Heller was argued before SCOTUS there was exactly one FFL in Washington DC:
Josh Sugarman
I’m told that there are now two. “Rules for thee, but not for me”.
Remember this, people: A Black Man With A Gun Is Equal
Keyboardess@29
Some day the black leaders will see what the democratic party has been doing to the black population, and turn away.
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what makes you think the “black leaders” *aren’t* part of the problem? If black society isn’t debased, Jesse and Al would be out of a lucrative job.
Law abiding citizen’s have a right to self defense with a gun. Some Black Leader’s stir up hate among the black’s,and are part of the problem.
The VPC wants to get rid of all firearms. They don’t care what color you are.
Anyone that thinks Al and Jesse are *leaders*, has never met a real leader!
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Funny how they always forget to mention the percentage of murders that are carried out with legally obtained firearms. I’m guessing less than 1%? When will the anti-gun left get it through their thick communist skulls that bans on firearms only disarm the people least likely to use them irresponsibly?
Do they honestly believe gun bans will convince criminals to turn their firearms over to the police? The only people who would turn over their firearm are the soccer moms and hockey dads who actually care about obeying the law. And by forcing them to hand over their guns you’ve just made them more vulnerable to criminal low lifes who will be emboldened by an increasingly disarmed soceity. Not to mention that the cities with the strongest gun restrictions also have the highest crime rates.
Just look at Switzerland when you consider gun restrictions. Almost everyone there has a fully automatic modern assualt rifle in their home. Yet they have virtually zero gun crimes. And in countries like the UK gun crime has more than doubled since most guns were banned. And stabbings have also gone through the roof since almost knives were banned in the UK. The same is true in Canada where gun crimes have risen by over 40% following harsh new gun restrictions.
Stop trying to take away our God given rights of self-defense you leftist fascist morons.
Blacks have been targeted by existing firearm laws for years. For instance, felons are not allowed to own or even touch a firearm. What portion of blacks are convicted felons? Many large cities are basically gun free zones, what with restrictions on gun stores and bans on handguns, and outright bans on guns in government housing projects. What proportion of city dwellers are black? Laws don’t prevent crime, civilized culture prevents crime.
That is a critically important insight. Unfortunately, it’s occurred to very few persons.
Itz about social change not blaming it on the “WHITE MAN”
You can add the government of large northern cities and the NAACP to your list of those opposing Black Gun Rights.
Several years back some large northern cities tried an experiment. They sent black men to gun stores in distant cities, dressed in black gang colors and using black gang lingo and had them try to buy a gun. None of them had any problem doing so. Now, none of the men were actual gang members, none had committed crimes and none showed up as being a problem on a background check.
The governments in the cities then claimed that their gang problem was not theirs but was caused by other people selling guns to gang members. The NAACP chimed in. But note that what they were really saying was that people should not sell guns to black people. There was no legal basis to refuse to sell a gun to someone because he was black and wearing purple and green or whatever. To have refused to sell a gun to a black man who checked out as Okay would have brought back the days of the segregated lunch counter.
This article needs to be pulled. It is a major misrepresentation of what the PDF. states.
In case you don’t get it:
“Successful efforts to reduce America’s homicide toll must put a focus on reducing access to firearms.”
This is about gun control for everyone(no surprise from the VPC), and the death of blacks by firearms as the excuse.
It just makes you look bad to anyone who understands the real intent.
Swab (aka dimwit) (49)
”It just makes you look bad to anyone who understands the real intent.”
From the .pdf – “For homicides in which the circumstances could be identified, 69 percent (3,023 out of 4,362) were not related to the commission of any other felony. Of these, 55 percent (1,669 homicides) involved arguments between the victim and the offender.”
The “not related to the commission of any other felony” part means that the authors of the document are not counting illegal posession of a firearm as “any other felony”, therefore their focus is not on eliminating the felony of illegal firearms posession, but rather eliminating of firearms legal or otherwise within the black community.
So much for the old dodge of, ” … who understands the real intent” that flows so easily from the lips of the numbskulls who have been trained in the Pavlovian academic system to think that they can always accuse others of being too stupid to read a simple english sentence.
Have a nice day
I agree with everybody, every ideology and viewpoint, therefore I’m always on the right side of all issues. However, besides the 14th Amendment there is also the 2nd Amendment, despite certain groups and certain politicians who seem hell bent on reinterpreting the 2nd Amendment. To us’ins unedukated rednecks it is quite clearly written, both in context and in its meaning.
When you do the background work on the Constitution and understand the mindset of the founding fathers when writing the Constitution and how they viewed life and liberty and why they chose a republican form of government, it becomes evident and quite clear that there is a natural unalienable right to self-defense and the ability to protect your family and property that government has no business being involved in.
The problem, my friend, is not firearms, nor the people; the problem is government intervention and attempt to control every aspect of the citizen’s lives. We seem to have forgotten that the government isn’t the sovereign entity here, remember that we are a Republic; the individual citizens are the sovereign entity and hold sovereign power of this nation. The primary job of the Federal Government is to protect the unalienable rights of the sovereign citizens, not to limit them or alter them.
To my mind, all Federal gun laws are, by that standard, unconstitutional and illegal. My fellow Americans, I would be suspect of a government that would violate your unalienable rights, your Constitutional rights and most importantly, your sovereignty.
The answer is in our educational system, learning who we are and the Constiution we live by. The source of our problems lies in Congress and the politicians who have turned serving the people into a lifetime career.
Join me this election cycle in assisting all those incumbants into an early retirment. It is truly time to solve this Republic’s problems with sanity and common sense.
Vpats hit it on the head:
Vote out all incumbants. All that old blood in power is tied up in many decades old power struggles and they seem to loose sight of both current events and ‘the bigger picture’ of American life and poltics.
He also hit it on the head with education. You’re outlook on the constitution and our Founding Fathers is greatly influenced by your elementary school education. This is a critical time to discuss real liberty and what the Fouding Fathers had in mind. Lot of left winger tecahers though, so I would expect the parts that discuss the right to defend yourself and the role of the governemnt to be ‘light hearted’ when it (IMO) should be heartily exclaimed.
Your part:
1. Vote out older encumbants.
2. Educate the children in your life about the birth of the country.
We’re worried that if we outlaw guns for everyone, the deer population will explode. We already face an epidemic of deer garden and lawn destruction in the eastern United States and if guns are outlawed, this lawndemic will soon spread west. Why not adopt instead the Israeli model, where everyone is armed. Not only will that control deer; it will make malefactors think twice before assaulting our grandmothers.
Yours sincerely,
The Playdo Institute
Handel Glassberg, President
That’s how we got stuck with the massive failure that is the war on drugs. Negroes were being given cocaine so they would work harder. One rapes a caucasian woman and the drug war starts.
Outlawing guns for negroes would be the start of outlawing guns for everyone.
“Blacks in the United States are disproportionately affected by homicide. For the year 2007, blacks represented 13 percent of the nation’s population, yet accounted for 49 percent of all homicide victims.”
What the article fails to mention is that according to the U.S. Census Bureau in 2007,24.5 percent of African-Americans in comparison to 8.2 percent of non-Hispanic Whites were living at the poverty level. Poverty is color blind and contributes to crime (by all races) across the board.
No matter what good intention an organization has for removing firearms from black people, it’s extremely hard to hear. Carving black people out of society that way (no matter how well-intentioned) and trying to remove a civil liberty that was fought so hard for, only seems reminiscent of a society where white people had dominance. If we as a society are trying move forward being treated “equally,” then we need to be sensitive to approaches that appear to move backwards. The link between homicide and poor economic conditions of all races is the real problem and would be better dealt with from this perspective. This way the approach can be within a class of society rather than a race of society. It’s not one race that’s the problem, it’s the poverty level and oppression that accompanies it. When we can solve those problems, homicide rates will decrease across the board…