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		<title>By: Concerned1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is how sad it is to see the intelligence of the Marxist endroctrinated students, get so one tracked in thought, that they can no longer &quot;think&quot; for themselves, but go in circles trying to find a way to justify what&#039;s programmed into their minds and cannot clearly nor concisely demonstrate any other ways or possibilities outside of the box they have allowed themselves to be sealed in. 

We need to get rid of all these poisonous Universities and simply turn them into online Universities where people simply get an education, submit tests and receive their degrees to go out and be productive in the work force, to reduce wasted, fuel, energy, brains and time.

We need to stop these sad misleading indoctrinations going on with strange college professors and their agendas, who often intentionally damage the academic record of some of the best and brightest due to non-conformity.

Schools are for learning skills, not for emotional indoctrination or thinking. There are things called support groups or online forums for that..LOL!

Better yet, they can create their own colleges for indoctrination and let the ones who simply want a career education - obtain it without all the unnecessary noise from miserable human parrots chirping on the floor, who want to program you to believe one way of believing life should be for all, without a basis of proof from experience of living a certain way. 

How about we all create a fund raiser, giving grants to all those who believe in Communism/Marxism.  With a mandatory ticket to fly them anywhere in the world where Marxism and Communism is strong for a maximum of 20 years (banned from returning to America) and then they can share their so called Utopia with the rest of the world and upon completion of the final stage of their indoctrination, when their 20 year experiment is finished, you never know, there may be a special Nobel prize waiting for them at the end of the experiment! They can be the first subjects of  their indoctrinated experiment hammered in at these Universities, to compare and contrast what life was like going from living in 21st century America into the future living under communist rule..;) 

Then try to give the rest of us an education on Marxism. Until then, I am tuning these freaks out! You should see the rise coming out of these people when you suggest something outside of their box, they can&#039;t seem to handle it, but will, like a robot, intellectually go in the same circle and take you right back to where they started with such great skill too, very impressive. It&#039;s only sad that their mind is just stuck on that one and only track, not open to other ways/possibilities of going about change..

It really is very sad to see such intelligence of some of these people get so warped into such a thought process. These people are intelligent, but seemingly mentally disturbed by the thought that anyone could think differently on any level and they are programmed not to see their own imbalance (a sign of weakness). They can intelligently rehearse all the scenarious that Marxist ways are great, regurgitate names of past philosopers and thinkers based on their indoctrination, but fail to demostrate any potential negative consequence or realities directly correlated with such a belief system, as if in complete denial of any other such possibilities. 

You can see it in their faces that if you challenge their thinking, you can see, they are thinking, &quot;I can&#039;t believe you are saying this to me,&quot; an almost expression of &quot;how dare you&quot;, but, they have the unique ability to shift quickly and think perhaps you are in need of a broader explanation and then will calm down and try to drown you in another well rounded intellectual speech about ways for you to see and understand the greater cause to think like they do.. 

It&#039;s always quite interesting, but in someways disturbing to see that they think you are troubled because of their one track mind set, which cannot handle other possibilities other than the one way they think it is meant to work, based on someone elses&#039; past frame of reference or study.. Minus, person experience, or better yet, provide a mass group in history to proclaim happiness, peace and unity under such conditions.

How sad:(

They need a lot more than regurgitating works and philosophies of the past and brainwashing from their professors to convince me..LOL! 

No Marxism in the USA..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is how sad it is to see the intelligence of the Marxist endroctrinated students, get so one tracked in thought, that they can no longer &#8220;think&#8221; for themselves, but go in circles trying to find a way to justify what&#8217;s programmed into their minds and cannot clearly nor concisely demonstrate any other ways or possibilities outside of the box they have allowed themselves to be sealed in. </p>
<p>We need to get rid of all these poisonous Universities and simply turn them into online Universities where people simply get an education, submit tests and receive their degrees to go out and be productive in the work force, to reduce wasted, fuel, energy, brains and time.</p>
<p>We need to stop these sad misleading indoctrinations going on with strange college professors and their agendas, who often intentionally damage the academic record of some of the best and brightest due to non-conformity.</p>
<p>Schools are for learning skills, not for emotional indoctrination or thinking. There are things called support groups or online forums for that..LOL!</p>
<p>Better yet, they can create their own colleges for indoctrination and let the ones who simply want a career education &#8211; obtain it without all the unnecessary noise from miserable human parrots chirping on the floor, who want to program you to believe one way of believing life should be for all, without a basis of proof from experience of living a certain way. </p>
<p>How about we all create a fund raiser, giving grants to all those who believe in Communism/Marxism.  With a mandatory ticket to fly them anywhere in the world where Marxism and Communism is strong for a maximum of 20 years (banned from returning to America) and then they can share their so called Utopia with the rest of the world and upon completion of the final stage of their indoctrination, when their 20 year experiment is finished, you never know, there may be a special Nobel prize waiting for them at the end of the experiment! They can be the first subjects of  their indoctrinated experiment hammered in at these Universities, to compare and contrast what life was like going from living in 21st century America into the future living under communist rule..;) </p>
<p>Then try to give the rest of us an education on Marxism. Until then, I am tuning these freaks out! You should see the rise coming out of these people when you suggest something outside of their box, they can&#8217;t seem to handle it, but will, like a robot, intellectually go in the same circle and take you right back to where they started with such great skill too, very impressive. It&#8217;s only sad that their mind is just stuck on that one and only track, not open to other ways/possibilities of going about change..</p>
<p>It really is very sad to see such intelligence of some of these people get so warped into such a thought process. These people are intelligent, but seemingly mentally disturbed by the thought that anyone could think differently on any level and they are programmed not to see their own imbalance (a sign of weakness). They can intelligently rehearse all the scenarious that Marxist ways are great, regurgitate names of past philosopers and thinkers based on their indoctrination, but fail to demostrate any potential negative consequence or realities directly correlated with such a belief system, as if in complete denial of any other such possibilities. </p>
<p>You can see it in their faces that if you challenge their thinking, you can see, they are thinking, &#8220;I can&#8217;t believe you are saying this to me,&#8221; an almost expression of &#8220;how dare you&#8221;, but, they have the unique ability to shift quickly and think perhaps you are in need of a broader explanation and then will calm down and try to drown you in another well rounded intellectual speech about ways for you to see and understand the greater cause to think like they do.. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s always quite interesting, but in someways disturbing to see that they think you are troubled because of their one track mind set, which cannot handle other possibilities other than the one way they think it is meant to work, based on someone elses&#8217; past frame of reference or study.. Minus, person experience, or better yet, provide a mass group in history to proclaim happiness, peace and unity under such conditions.</p>
<p>How sad:(</p>
<p>They need a lot more than regurgitating works and philosophies of the past and brainwashing from their professors to convince me..LOL! </p>
<p>No Marxism in the USA..</p>
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		<title>By: Lark</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/us-universities-education-or-indoctrination/#comment-251621</link>
		<dc:creator>Lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 01:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, this &quot;Free Speech Zone&quot; is not as unusual as I thought. It&#039;s still ridiculous, inane and pathetic, but I&#039;m learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, this &#8220;Free Speech Zone&#8221; is not as unusual as I thought. It&#8217;s still ridiculous, inane and pathetic, but I&#8217;m learning.</p>
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		<title>By: Lark</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/us-universities-education-or-indoctrination/#comment-251135</link>
		<dc:creator>Lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is, I kid you not, a &quot;Free Speech Zone&quot; designated in front of the library at a reputable public engineering university here in the Midwest. It&#039;s heartening to know there is at least one place on campus where civil rights can be practiced, even if it&#039;s not in classrooms. (Can I please, please rename it the Public Outcry Zone???)

Of course this university also has the nerve to make budget cuts based on student enrollment in its programs of study. Three guesses which college is protesting that they should be immune (though they have historically been spared). . . and the first two don&#039;t count. Guess the other colleges are the only ones who need to actively recruit and build their programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is, I kid you not, a &#8220;Free Speech Zone&#8221; designated in front of the library at a reputable public engineering university here in the Midwest. It&#8217;s heartening to know there is at least one place on campus where civil rights can be practiced, even if it&#8217;s not in classrooms. (Can I please, please rename it the Public Outcry Zone???)</p>
<p>Of course this university also has the nerve to make budget cuts based on student enrollment in its programs of study. Three guesses which college is protesting that they should be immune (though they have historically been spared). . . and the first two don&#8217;t count. Guess the other colleges are the only ones who need to actively recruit and build their programs.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/us-universities-education-or-indoctrination/#comment-251064</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So, you are arguing against a statement that says everyone should be treated equally? Did you not see “political affiliation” in that list? And who, by the way, do you think universities should treat differently?&quot;

Mischaracterize positions much, Boris?  They were arguing against a university trying to enforce an ideological orthodoxy.  The notion that opposing a political litmus test is somehow arguing against treating people equally is silly.  Why don&#039;t you brush up on your reading comprehension before you imply someone is a bigot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So, you are arguing against a statement that says everyone should be treated equally? Did you not see “political affiliation” in that list? And who, by the way, do you think universities should treat differently?&#8221;</p>
<p>Mischaracterize positions much, Boris?  They were arguing against a university trying to enforce an ideological orthodoxy.  The notion that opposing a political litmus test is somehow arguing against treating people equally is silly.  Why don&#8217;t you brush up on your reading comprehension before you imply someone is a bigot.</p>
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		<title>By: geokstr</title>
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		<dc:creator>geokstr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;not so fast:
33. anton:
not so fast,
You forget to mention that those religious universities do not receive public funding.

They don’t pay taxes, either.&quot;

And public universities do pay taxes? Enlighten us with a link, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;not so fast:<br />
33. anton:<br />
not so fast,<br />
You forget to mention that those religious universities do not receive public funding.</p>
<p>They don’t pay taxes, either.&#8221;</p>
<p>And public universities do pay taxes? Enlighten us with a link, please.</p>
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		<title>By: uburoisc</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/us-universities-education-or-indoctrination/#comment-250990</link>
		<dc:creator>uburoisc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire economy, from top to bottom, has been based on out-sized debt. For decades, there has been enough money flowing around to lubricate this contraption, and put bondo over the holes. But now the fundamentals of mathematical principles have come due, and the exponents are back with a vengeance. The university scam (the biggest in the country, bigger even that the financial scam) is finally going to be seen for what it is now that the money tree is denuded and dying. As another poster has wisely said, the apprenticeship model, the one that worked for centuries, is going to return, and the university scam will sit in the road and rot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire economy, from top to bottom, has been based on out-sized debt. For decades, there has been enough money flowing around to lubricate this contraption, and put bondo over the holes. But now the fundamentals of mathematical principles have come due, and the exponents are back with a vengeance. The university scam (the biggest in the country, bigger even that the financial scam) is finally going to be seen for what it is now that the money tree is denuded and dying. As another poster has wisely said, the apprenticeship model, the one that worked for centuries, is going to return, and the university scam will sit in the road and rot.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/us-universities-education-or-indoctrination/#comment-250918</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not so fast:

&quot;What if everybody graduated from BYU? Would that be better?&quot;

Yes. Yes it would. (And I&#039;m not even a Mormon.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so fast:</p>
<p>&#8220;What if everybody graduated from BYU? Would that be better?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. Yes it would. (And I&#8217;m not even a Mormon.)</p>
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		<title>By: J. Rockford</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/us-universities-education-or-indoctrination/#comment-250896</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Rockford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the next bubble to burst -- after the Internet and Housing -- will be higher education.  The market for college graduates is bad right now and its going to get worse as POR&#039;s legislation takes effect.  Parents would pay $15K to $35 a year for their kids to party as long as the &quot;ticket&quot; resulted in a decent job.  When there are no jobs after graduation, and they realize that after four -- even five or six -- years their kid has no marketable skill at best, socialist brainwashing at worse, they will be upset.  Word will get out.  Universitys and Colleges will see their enrollments drop catastrophically.  Which is fine by me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the next bubble to burst &#8212; after the Internet and Housing &#8212; will be higher education.  The market for college graduates is bad right now and its going to get worse as POR&#8217;s legislation takes effect.  Parents would pay $15K to $35 a year for their kids to party as long as the &#8220;ticket&#8221; resulted in a decent job.  When there are no jobs after graduation, and they realize that after four &#8212; even five or six &#8212; years their kid has no marketable skill at best, socialist brainwashing at worse, they will be upset.  Word will get out.  Universitys and Colleges will see their enrollments drop catastrophically.  Which is fine by me.</p>
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		<title>By: Pace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Confused in Va;
You might like to know that on the new citizenship test, under the section headed &quot;Rights and Responsibilities&quot; one of the questions asks which day is the latest day to send in federal income tax forms.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/100q.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confused in Va;<br />
You might like to know that on the new citizenship test, under the section headed &#8220;Rights and Responsibilities&#8221; one of the questions asks which day is the latest day to send in federal income tax forms.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/100q.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/100q.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Teleprompter Jesus</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/us-universities-education-or-indoctrination/#comment-250452</link>
		<dc:creator>Teleprompter Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Has anyone actually perused Obama’s two books? They remind me of a third year college student shooting their mouth off on subjects far beyond their competence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exqooze me? Remember the money changers in the temple? Remember the whip? Apologize. Or I&#039;ll make the seas start rising again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Has anyone actually perused Obama’s two books? They remind me of a third year college student shooting their mouth off on subjects far beyond their competence.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exqooze me? Remember the money changers in the temple? Remember the whip? Apologize. Or I&#8217;ll make the seas start rising again.</p>
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