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Two Dems Warn NSA Violations Just ‘Tip of a Larger Iceberg’

But a Republican chairman claims "disclosed documents demonstrate that there was no intentional and willful violation of the law."

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Bridget Johnson

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August 16, 2013 - 2:59 pm
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WASHINGTON — A pair of civil-liberties Democrats whom the White House tried to appease in a closed-door meeting warned today that fresh reports of thousands of privacy violations by the National Security Agency are just the “tip of a larger iceberg.”

On Thursday, the Washington Post published its report of a May 2012 audit leaked by former contractor Edward Snowden that found 2,776 violations over the previous year of executive orders and Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act provisions governing spying on Americans or foreign targets in the U.S. These included both computer and operator errors.

Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Mark Udall (D-Colo.) have been some of President Obama’s harshest critics — within his party and outside — on domestic spying. They were among allies and foes of the NSA programs summoned by Obama to the Oval Office at the beginning of the month as he hoped to calm his detractors before promising new, vague reforms.

“The executive branch has now confirmed that the ‘rules, regulations and court-imposed standards for protecting the privacy of Americans’ have been violated thousands of times each year. We have previously said that the violations of these laws and rules were more serious than had been acknowledged, and we believe Americans should know that this confirmation is just the tip of a larger iceberg,” Wyden and Udall said in a joint statement this afternoon.

“While Senate rules prohibit us from confirming or denying some of the details in today’s press reports, the American people have a right to know more details about of these violations. We hope that the executive branch will take steps to publicly provide more information as part of the honest, public debate of surveillance authorities that the Administration has said it is interested in having.”

A week ago, Wyden carefully lauded Obama’s promised reforms unveiled in a press conference just before he took off to Martha’s Vineyard for vacation. The senator stressed, though, that “notably absent from President Obama’s speech was any mention of closing the backdoor searches loophole that potentially allows for the warrantless searches of Americans’ phone calls and emails under section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.”

“I am also concerned that the executive branch has not fully acknowledged the extent to which violations of FISC orders and the spirit of the law have already had a significant impact on Americans’ privacy,” Wyden said Aug. 9.

Today, he and Udall said “the public deserves to know more about the violations of the secret court orders that have authorized the bulk collection of Americans’ phone and email records under the USA PATRIOT Act.”

“The public should also be told more about why the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court has said that the executive branch’s implementation of section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act has circumvented the spirit of the law, particularly since the executive branch has declined to address this concern,” they continued.

Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), who last month introduced the FISA Court Reform Act of 2013 and the FISA Judge Selection Reform Act of 2013, said the latest revelations underscored the need for “a special advocate who can push the FISA Court to hold NSA accountable, and uncover illegal over-reaching.”

“Changes in selection of the Court judges can make it a more effective watchdog. The audit reveals a disregard or disrespect for Constitutional privacy rights that undermines public trust and credibility so essential for intelligence activities that protect our national security,” Blumenthal said. “Even as reforms progress, the Justice Department should investigate and pursue possible violations of law as appropriate.”

But the leaders of the intelligence committees held fast to their support for the NSA programs.

“The disclosed documents demonstrate that there was no intentional and willful violation of the law and that the NSA is not collecting the email and telephone traffic of all Americans, as previously reported,” asserted House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.).

“Congress and the court have put in place auditing, reporting, and compliance requirements to help ensure that the executive branch, the Congress, and the Court each have insight into how the authorities granted to the NSA are used. As a result, even the inadvertent and unintentional errors are documented,” he continued. “We demand these reviews so the NSA can constantly improve and correct any technical missteps that may impact Americans.”

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) dismissed a “large majority of NSA’s so-called ‘compliance incidents’” as “roaming” incidents, in which a non-American whose phone is being monitored outside the United States wanders onto U.S. soil.

“The NSA generally won’t know that the person has traveled to the United States. As the laws and rules governing NSA surveillance require different procedures once someone enters the U.S.—generally to require a specific FISA court order—NSA will cite this as a ‘compliance incident,’ and either cease the surveillance or obtain the required FISA court order. The majority of these ‘compliance incidents’ are, therefore, unintentional and do not involve any inappropriate surveillance of Americans,” Feinstein said.

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C'mon, so they messed up 2,776 times. Cut them some slack--everyone deserves a 2,777th chance.
34 weeks ago
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Um, they just called their boss a liar. Shouldn't they just switch sides now?
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"Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Mark Udall (D-Colo.) have been some of President Obama’s harshest critics — within his party and outside — on domestic spying."

Which makes them, at least on this, a hell of a lot closer to the Founding Fathers than are most Republican politicians, including many who falsely call themselves conservatives.
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2776 violations of the law. What are they not telling us about each violation?
Could it be "One violation was a computer glitch (when 26.5 million phone calls were accidentally recorded). A second violation was a keying in error (when 12 million internet accounts were totally copied). The 2770th violation of the law was another operator error (when 27 million...). All simple mistakes. There was not intent to violate the law."
33 weeks ago
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I am beginning to think that Snowden was the ultimate whistle blower and patriot.

didn't think this at first, but with being first called a phony scandal by B.O., a distraction, we don't spy and now thousands of violations this is high time for the lame stream media to start to crucify the person who is in charge of this program.

And that would be B.O.

But I'm sure he can say he just read about the problems like everyone else.

Or maybe he can say he was just playing spades with Reggie and knew nothing, you know, leading from behind, while playing spades and not be accounted for or accountable for anything.
34 weeks ago
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I'm sitting here watching Fox Sunday and they are discussing this.
Peter King, who must be the stupidest man in Congress, doesn't think thousands of eff ups are significant (he says it's like a batting average, stupid moron!) As far as he is concerned, nothing to see here. What a putz.
And watch for the end of the world, because I find myself agreeing wholeheartedly with that nut, Kucinich!
I did not think it possible.
I think I need a drink. Is the sun over the yardarm, yet?
34 weeks ago
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Dianne Feinstein would, if permitted, force Americans to turn in their firearms to the federal government while she remains steadfast in her advocacy of a federal program to spy on Americans without remorse. She would have fit nicely into the Third Reich.
34 weeks ago
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The NSA must have discovered some skeleton(s) in Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) closet, just like supreme court chief justice john roberts.
34 weeks ago
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Let's see, the IRS would never play favorites against conservatives. Oh, they did? Well it must have been just a couple of low level people that made a mistake. What? The NSA are spying on Americans in unheard of numbers? Naw, that must be a mistake. Oh, you have proof? Oh, well, those were just accidental. There were thousands of incidents in just one year? Uhhhhh....We'll look into it but we can't say anything about what we are doing about it because of National Security. Yeah, that's the ticket. The Sheeple will believe that one.
34 weeks ago
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"Civil-liberties Democrats." That's a very small club.
34 weeks ago
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The realization that the Feral Government is monitoring the private communications of American citizens is scary enough. But when one considers the attacks on our freedoms by Obama and his Prog allies, it goes beyond scary. It fits neatly in with the attacks on our 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment rights placed in our Constitution by the Founders of our American government.

As such, the knowledge that the Ferals are monitoring our private communications, in clear violation of the Constitution, clearly shows that it was not inadvertent, accidental or any other such excuse. It is another piece of evidence of the criminal plot to undermine and make irrelevant our founding documents, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

I do not think of myself as a conservative or libertarian or any other such term. I think of myself as a Constitutional Patriot. As such, I have problems even with the title of the so-called Patriot Act. A patriot, according to Webster, is "one who loves and loyally or zealously supports one's own country". There is no indication that a patriot can include one who would support one's country only after major changes to the very fabric of our Constitutional freedoms and our American concept of the rule of law.

Actually, one's country could be no more than defined boundaries but America is more than that. It is an idea, a way of life that citizens are free and the government answers to the citizens. I am in love with the Constitutional concept of our government including all of our rights in the first several Amendments.

I know it will be difficult if not impossible to return to Constitutional government and the now dated idea of the rule of law without very major turmoil possibly including a lot of bloodshed. I am not in any way advocating insurrection but I smile when someone writes about keeping their powder dry.



34 weeks ago
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Herbert Romerstein (author of "The Venona Secrets" and "Stalin's Secret Agents: The Subversion of Roosevelt's Government") on Agent Harry Hopkins, Alger Hiss and other Traitors [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FX4t_KGFq94]
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Whats the beef? Since there have only been 'thousands' of violations of the Patriot Act and not 'hundreds of thousands' of violations its no big deal - right?

As for the Patriot Act I've always maintained many of its parts are at the very least borderline unconstitutional. I remember the braying coming from democrats when this act was first introduced after 911. Now all I'm hearing is a couple of progressives that might otherwise have a difficult reelection should they do/say nothing - which is what the republicans are saying - pretty much nothing.
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The Patriot Act , along with Bush's massive spending, was largely condoned by conservatives because we had just been thrown into a new war that wasn't well understood. We knew that the 9/11 terrorists had been on our soil and had triggered alerts and attracted scrutiny, but except for a rare few, no official actions had been taken against them. So we allowed a bill of questionable legality to be passed. It may have helped. I hope it has. But it may become our Achilles' heel.
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