Twelve Ways Obama Could Lose
9) The president could run a poor campaign
A scandal (see Watergate or Monica), an excessively negative or partisan campaign (see Carter in 1980), or a bad debate gaffe (see Rick Perry) could tip the balance in a tight election.
10) The Republicans could have a surprise brokered convention or run a great campaign
With many conservative journalists continually complaining about the GOP field, a new ticket would presumably excite the Republican base and capture the public’s attention. Or perhaps one of these guys might make everyone forget Lincoln, Washington, and Reagan with their brilliant eloquence and compelling vision for America’s future. Stranger things have happened; please don’t ask me what, though.
11) A Republican vice presidential choice could swing a key state
Marco Rubio could lock up Florida for the GOP; Rob Portman might do the same in Ohio. Perhaps Senator Pat Toomey or Governor Tom Corbett could help deliver Pennsylvania. These will almost certainly be the key states in 2012 and a good choice could make the difference.
12) The president’s health could falter, causing him to stand down
Not to be grim, but would any Democrat feel comfortable with Joe Biden leading the Democratic ticket? Pleasant fellow that he is, Biden’s bombed disastrously twice in presidential campaigns and the last Gallup poll gave a 43% positive rating. Hillary Clinton would almost surely be a stronger nominee than Biden, and perhaps a better running mate too.
This list is not comprehensive, as we have seen repeatedly before; the political universe is quite capable of delivering shocks that no one forecast.
In 2008, President Obama won six states that now have 91 electoral votes with less than 53%. The loss of all those states would drop him down to 268 electoral votes, two less than needed for victory. It’s not too hard to see how any one of these 12 factors alone or in combination could shift those key states by 3 or 4 points. Barring a very weak Republican ticket, 2012 should be a slugfest.
OWS Sets New Lows, Eyes Chicago
What began last September in New York City as a complaint against unemployment and greed by some unemployed and student loan-burdened young people has long since been transformed by radical revolutionaries worldwide.
Since that transformation, President Barack Hussein Obama’s favorite protesters have repeatedly established new lows in uncivilized behavior. Characterized by his own Washington Post as the most polarizing president to ever sit in the White House, The Anointed One “ain’t seen nothing yet” when it comes to polarization.
In recent weeks, the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) anarchists have devolved from almost-comical whiners into residents of rat-infested enclaves in the nation’s capital, throwing bricks and Bibles at police and urinating on a crucifix in San Francisco, using storm drains as toilets in Charlotte, tossing condoms at Catholic high school girls in Providence, and rioting and burning American flags in Oakland.
That’s not the half of the atrocities they have committed.
And, true to form, Obama’s MSM reports next to none of it and the president has refused to condemn even the rioting flag-burners. However, all those sick stories and more have been reported on such non-mainstream websites as Drudge.com and PatDollard.com.
It’s almost as if Obama’s MSM is censoring the news and Obama supports the anarchy. Imagine that!
In a farcically desperate attempt to characterize the Occupy Movement as simple socio-economic dissent, Obama’s MSM have compared it to the invariably-peaceful and decorous Tea Party demonstrations.
The fact that, in the 3-year existence of the Tea Party, not one member has ever been arrested while over 6,000 Occupiers have been jailed for everything from assault to rape to public nudity and copulation in their 4-month history puts the lie to that absurdity.
Among other evidence that Obama’s media have been shielding both the Occupy Movement and their most notable supporter from adverse publicity is their effort to hide plans to disrupt the Chicago G8 summit in May.
All the president’s minions have successfully cloaked the infestation of Marxists directing the Occupiers’ actions, the presence of criminals, skin-heads, neo-Fascists and other reprobates in the OWS midst, as well as the funding from arch-leftist George Soros.
Now, they are ignoring the call for spring chaos in Chicago by the leftist magazine, Adbusters. . . (Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=12380.)
Interesting article (esp. for a partisan!)
IMO : #1 – if he loses the electoral he’ll probably lose the popular
#2,3, 7 – LIKELY
#9,10,11,12 – unlikely
#8 – maybe
#4,5,6, – might actually favor rather than disadvantage Obama. he can count on the media to play this as “staying with the horse you know” election.
Im not sure a middle-east crisis is going to reflect good on candidates who have already promised war with Iran as an incentive to vote for them. The whole “War on Iran” is going to backfire mightily on the republicans during the general election…
I guess that it is too much to hope for that citizens of the United States of America wake up from their brain dead coma and actually observe the record of this bozo and throw his sorry butt out of office.
If ever there was a president that deserved to get sent home in disgrace,, it is him.
I noticed his followers (read enablers because the Obama is delusional) are guided more by their own emotional needs than logic, in short they form a cult. As Pres. Wilson said,”logic won’t take out of person’s head what logic did not put there”. Watch for a cult of believers to worship him long after he is out of office.
Exactly, most liberals are driven by emotion, and warp, ignore, or twist the facts to feel better about their world view.
Well, it certainly won’t be hard for the Dems to capitalize on what is being said by the presumed GOP himself. Romney is beginning to give Rick Perry a run for his money. He won’t be able to get ahead of this one because it just reinforces stereotypes that are already there.
I don’t care about the very poor.
360K isn’t a lot of money
I like to fire people
Corporations are people
Moreover, Obama will do to Romney what Romney did to Newt in Florida, only nationwide. It will be a one billion dollar carpet bombing campaign. One of the most negative and despicable we have EVER seen. It will be breathtaking to say the least. There will also be an undercurrent of psychological warfare. The Mormon thing really leaves a bad taste in many people’s mouths. Obama has the advantage of incumbency. He will have more resources than Romney (a seriously damaged candidate). The adavantage is still Obama’s
These are media spin of statements made out of context, which is what the media do, and will do regardless of what Romney or any other candidates actually says or means. The media give the Democratic Pary a 20 point advantage nationally by concealing who the Democrats really are and misrepresenting Republicans. it’s a given.
The election will be determined by how many Americans wake up to how badly they allowed themselves to be deceived in 2008. Fortunately, Obama has done most of this work himself. He has consistently shown himself to be, stand for and do precisely the oppositie of what he says in his faux-moderate speeches. And when he makes his red meat speeches to his base, he shows who he really is, and more voters seem to have noticed that. Will enough voters have seen through the act by next November? that’s the question.
Look hun, that comment came straight out of Willards caviar hole. It wasn’t taken out of context. It means what it means. Moreover, the “safety net” he speaks of is exactly the one the GOP has been trying to destroy. You can’t square the same comment from different angles.
But I’m sure you will be one of the first to brag about ANY poll that shows Obama behind. The fact is you wouldn’t believe any poll that didn’t support what you are already inclined to believe, so we have to take what you say with a grain of salt, and a good laugh.
To Cynical Wonder: Hey “Hun”, there is nothing more frustrating than a person who is deluded and uninformed and yet manages to be so condescending with people of differing opinion.
“Taken out of context” does not mean the words did not come “out of his mouth”. It means that the things said before and after, if included, would paint a very different picture than the one being intentionally and inaccurately implied by the media or whoever is repeating the words.
Cynical Wonder, this is taken out of context: I don’t care about the very poor. He specifically said, “I’m in this race because I care about Americans. I’m not concerned about the very poor — we have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I’ll fix it. I’m not concerned about the very rich — they’re doing just fine. I’m concerned about the very heart of America, the 90 to 95 percent of Americans who right now are struggling.”
He’s right! The poor have a safety net, the rich are RICH, but the middle class in this country were totally destroyed by the Obama mentality.
9 million jobs were lost under Bush. Sounds like he gave Obama a good cushion on destroying the economy you speak of. But I’m sure you like to forget that little tidbit.
Cynical Wonder, this is taken out of context: I don’t care about the very poor.
Romney specifically said, “I’m in this race because I care about Americans. I’m not concerned about the very poor — we have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I’ll fix it. I’m not concerned about the very rich — they’re doing just fine. I’m concerned about the very heart of America, the 90 to 95 percent of Americans who right now are struggling.”
He’s right! The poor have a safety net, the rich are RICH, but the middle class in this country were totally destroyed by the Obama destructive mentality.
don’t argue with Captain Cynical. He’s one of the drooling fools still sailing on the Good Ship Obamapop . I heard someone say the other day , there’s no point in arguing with a crazy person. This equally applies to leftist dolts.
Cynical Wonder says: 9 million jobs were lost under Bush. Sounds like he gave Obama a good cushion on destroying the economy you speak of. But I’m sure you like to forget that little tidbit.
I think you’ve forgotten the little “tidbit” that the DEMOCRAPS controlled the House and Senate the last 2 years of the Bush admin.
And how long are you going to blame Bush (like your beloved BO does?). He’s had over 3 years to fix it. He just golfs and vacations instead.
Employment figures from BLS (numbers in millions)
Month Tot Employed Gain/Loss
Jan 2001 135.999
Jan 2007 145.957 +9.958
Jan 2009 142.099 -3.858 +6.100 {2001-2009}
Dec 2011 140.790 -1.309 -5.167 {2007-2011)
So we gained nearly 10 million jobs in the first 6 years of Bush 43.
After the Dems won the Congress in 2007 and 0 was coronated in 2009, we have lost over 5 million. The Dems have been in partial or full control for the last 5 years and they have been a disaster. Cynical is entitled to his opinion, but not to pull figures out of his butt.
Please allow me to clarify, validate and restate: Liberals base their decisions upon emotions and later try to justify them with logic.
I am now of the “anyone but Obama” school.
“I am now of the “anyone but Obama” school.”
If you are, and you vote for Romney, what do you have. I’m not all that sure that Romney isn’t more liberal than Oslammerhead. If he isn’t more, he’s at least equally liberal. Just where did OslammerheadCare come from??? Well, it came from Mass, and you can leave off the “M” for Romney. I don’t think Gingrich is all that much better, but he is a tat more conservative in his approaches. Paul is the only one who has stuck by his guns for the past 30-years, BUT, the people will never elect him because of the whack job the media has done on him. Santorum isn’t known enough to be elected.
Wow! I second that comment, Tommy Gunn.
VOTE for RON PAUL!!!! IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!
Dream on. For starters, A EU crash would be perfect. Even Americans know that Europe is not one of the 57 States. Bernanke and Geithner will do whatever is necessary to prop up Obama and shift any blame elsewhere. EU collapse fits. With Mitt heading the ticket, the GOP is assured to not winning a super majority regardless of the outcome of the Presidential race.
Actually, the worst outcome will be if Mitt wins. Not only will you have another Big Gov compassionate elite guy but the GOP will be asked to do the impossible: fixing what Obama, the liberals and their GOP enablers have done for the last 60 years. That would pretty much guarantee Speaker Pelosi after the 2014 mid-terms.
This nation has to crash, just like an addict, before it can be fixed.
Nancy Pelosi will be like, 95 in 2014, won’t she?
They’ll hook her up to a botox i.v. and roll her out for votes
“This nation has to crash, just like an addict, before it can be fixed.”
Agreed – I’ve been saying this to anyone who would listen for months (precious few).
The only hope the brain-dead GOP has is number 10 and being brain-dead means it’s an extremely slim hope. For all the others The Won does not need to worry since he has the MSM in his back pocket.
I’m voting for “None of the above.” in November.
Good luck America and the world, it’s probably too late already.
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“This nation has to crash, just like an addict, before it can be fixed.”
Our country is 300MM individuals, many of whom hold bad philosophies and bad ideas. It is not an individual with an addiction. Your analogy is false.
Furthermore, what makes you think your fellow American will understand what caused the crash? What makes you think they will demand a rational solution at that point? Why are you so sure? It seems just as likely people could fall into a panic and demand a dictatorship to bring order to the chaos that likely will ensue with a financial collapse.
It is better for each of us who are dedicated to rational, constitutional governance to stand up whenever we can and fight for this country right now and in whatever avenue is possible. This is a battle of ideas and education. Cynicism and defeatism will not win. In other words, if you don’t have anything positive to say, please say nothing.
Don’t underestimate No. 13: People just HATE Obama. Don’t underestimate hate. It brings out the base in elections, it brings in A LOT of money to a national campaign (whoever the Republican candidate is), and it gives a huge incentive for Republicans to fight for every vote out there, not writing off any state, even California. There was a recent Gallup Poll that stated that Obama has been the most polarizing president in recent American history. Well, the people in that poll who don’t like him will work that much harder to get him out of office. If “Hope and Change” brought a lot of new people into the voting process in 2008, Hate for Obama will bring in even more. And with an economy like this one, it won’t take much convincing that this guy is another Jimmy Carter.
Don’t forget,,, not only do we HATE Obama, most of us remember that his political thuggery groups such as ACORN and SEIU were most active in some of the aforementioned critical states that elected him. Since then we have seen Eric Holder at Justice chip away at those states which enforce voter ID laws in an attempt to cast the illegal vote for the Dems. We not only hate him, but even worse, we no longer trust the integrity of the ballot box under Obama.
It’s way past time for a serious house cleaning in government, the TEA pot may not be boiling now but it certainly has been simmering quietly since 2010, I think the democrats who dismiss the Tea Party as irrelevant have greatly underestimated the mood of the country.
So have the repubs…am sorely disappointed…and will vote accordingly and it wont be for a democrap
I saw Dick Armey on TV last week and he was asked about the supposed demise of the Tea Party. (Wouldn’t the dems love it if this were true.) He said the Tea Party is stronger than ever and gaining new members and new chapters all over the country. Their plan is to come out big late this summer and into the fall when the campaign for the general election gets launched. Anyone who dismisses the Tea Party is making a big mistake.
Excellent point and there is a corollary as well. Many hate the main stream media almost as much as they hate Obama. They blame the media’s shameless promotion of Obama and shockingly unfair double standards as putting Obama in the White House at all. Newt only just began to scratch the surface of that as a motivator.
Never forget. This President described those who don’t agree with him as Enemies.
The man needs to go. Personally, even if I agreed with his political views, I’m very, very offended that he would refer to approximately half the population of this country as enemies.
No…anyone who does not agree with Obama or the Democraats is a racist!
ACORN is out there still drumming up whatever votes that they can manufacture
for Obama. And they will out in full force, especially in the industrial midwest and Florida, where most likely the election will be won or lost.
I would expect that they will have some shill running on the Americas Elect party which seems to have the resources to get on all the 50 states ballots. Whoever is the Republican, will be “Ross Peroted”. It will skim off just enough votes to make sure Obama gets elected.
Maybe Obama will step down and let Hillary run instead. He most likely will not be on the ballot in S. Carolina and maybe 6 other states where eligibility is an issue. This will reinvigorate the Marxocrat base as Hillary will be the “fresh face” of the redistributionists.
The dead vote (ACORN lives).
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Vote Totalitarian
Obama ’12
According to Gallup [see sidebar at Instapundit] 0 is a lock in ten states plus DC – DC, HI, MD, MA, CN, MY, VT, DE, NJ, IL, and CA. That amounts to 159 electoral votes. The “battle ground” will be the following states with 149 electoral votes: OR, NM, WI, IA, MS, FL, GA, NC, VA, OH, PA, and ME. These states give 0 an approval rate between 43% and 48%. The remainder of the nation will likely go for the GOP candidate since they give 0 an approval rating at or below 42% and 227 electoral votes. With 270 electoral votes required for a win, it looks like 0 pretty much has to run the battle ground states to have a chance.
The thing is, those Gallup polls showed that he is NOT a “lock” to win California, NJ, etc.
First of all, he was barely over 50% approval in most of these dark blue states. Incumbents below 50% are in danger, because the undecideds tend to move strongly for the challenger.
Next, these were polls of “adults”. Not registered voters or likely voters, but adults. Likely voter polls are always significantly more favorable to Republicans.
Put these two factors together, and Gallup shows that Obama would have been in serious danger of losing these solid Democratic states if the election were held last year when these polls were taken. The swing states obviously look even grimmer for him.
The question for Obama is whether or not they can keep the upward momentum they have had the last couple of months, because at this moment in time they are still looking at a blow-out loss. Given the recent CBO figures, I think that they may in fact be at their apex, and will soon start drifting back to (and even below) the dismal numbers of late last year.
I agree. This is the way to analyze it – state by state.
Of the tossups I think OR will go Obama. Of the Obama states I wonder if NJ could be delivered by Christe.
The rest of the tossups have big wins at all levels in 2010 for the GOP.
The question to me is will Romney have the money and balls to expose Obama. This is going to have to be hard, accurate and factual. The MSM will try to defend him. The goal is force the MSM into a series of laughable jump the shark moments.
Prediction;
Obama will win: California, New York, Hawaii, Michigan, and the District of Columbia.
Obama May additionally win: Washington, Oregon, Maine, and Minnasotta.
Obama will lose all of the other states.
Did you take your meds today? There is no explanation of logic for any of the states you specify. PPP has Obama ahead of Romney by 7 points today in Ohio.
I don’t care what polling says todya.
In January of 1980 Carter was beating everyone in the republican field.
Specifically Carter beat Reagain in January 63 to 39.
In October of 1980 Carter was still beating reagan by 5 points.
How did that race turn out again????
I’m basing my prediction on my experiences in the past. You see I have a memory that’s better than 45 days long.
Anyone who considers GA up for grabs does not understand the state.
“Some Democratic voters are irrationally sure of victory.”
And they should be. No matter who wins, US lose: Romneycare v. Obamacare. Why not join the EU?
We lose only if the Republicans fail to gain the Congressional majority AND Romney is bald-faced lying when he promises to immediately offer ObamaCare waivers to all fifty states.
Since Obama is forced to converse with Almighty God – not being able to find anybody on this earth his equal – I would suspect that he (small ‘h’) will get the word that he either should resign and maintain some of his dignity or continuing to press people to be dependent on himself (small ‘h’)and his giant, oppressive,regulatory-control-freak government bureaucratic nightmare.
“Partisan” Reddy seems to have chosen to be dependent on the state and the ‘god’ of humanism rather than dependent upon the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who in His (big ‘H’)loving kindness provided us with the blueprint of a form of governance that embodies and encourages the very freedoms that allow our souls to prosper. This election is merely a choice between dependence on the small ‘h’ or dependence upon the Big ‘H’ …. …
Sooooo …. I propose method #11 by which Obama can ‘lose’ – continue ignoring the Author of our freedoms; because the U.S.A. is His, (Big ‘H’), just as much as Israel is His (Big ‘H’). We have a future … and Obama has decided that he’s gonna double down in participating to try and take that away, so I hope for his sake (small ‘h’) that in the process he either; has his heart softened and maybe resigns, or that he is mercifully removed without casting a dismal shadow over the black community; or both.
Being an instrument of chastisement cannot be much fun … so have mercy on Obama; and so, let’s take responsibility for allowing ourselves to get into this mess by making some awful choices, and learn our lessons well. Never again should we allow government to rule over us …. …
Not so sure it’s irrational.
Considering that the Republican nominee will the empty-suited, vacuous political prostitute Mitt Romney (let it go Newt, Rick and Ron supporters. I hate this fact as much as you do, believe me. But Mitt is who our Republican establishment ‘betters’ have chosen as the guy least likely to rock the gravy boat.) I don’t see defeat for Obama as inevitable.
I don’t want to see Obama in another term. But I also don’t want the perfectly manicured sock puppet from Boston to be elected either.
I won’t vote for either.
taking your ball and going home, eh Mike? don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
there is no such option as “i won’t vote”. the act of voting is our only ace, regardless of who is our candidate of choice. that is what politicians respond to because it affects their ambitions, which in all cases, is boundless.
there is obviously a vacuum and hopefully before we swirl down a great leader will come along. let us hope and pray it is not a fascist.
No, you both misunderstand. I will be voting. Just not for Obama or Romney.
If by “Establishment” you mean caucus goers in IA & voters in NH, SC & FL, I guess you are right. You got a better way to decide this? How about a bunch of well connected swells and rich guys in a room picking the candidate? Actually, that might have worked, better come to think of it.
“How about a bunch of well connected swells and rich guys in a room picking the candidate?”
- You mean like how it actually is?
Good move–help BHO nail down another four years of destruction. Thanks,I’m sure your pouting will be duly noted by the Republicans so they won’t repeat the mistake.
Sadly enough for the country and the world, as the Republican candidates shoot each other and themselves in the foot, the only way Obama loses is if he gets caught screwing a chicken on live T.V. Even then the media will spin it away and it will be very close.
13. Fast & Furious, Solyndra, or one of the myriad other scandals could reach a boiling point resulting in the public disgrace of one or more members of Obama’s inner circle. I believe that Fast & Furious holds great potential for disgracing – possibly even indicting – Eric Holder. If another Solyndra occurs in the fall Obama will be toast no matter what.
I’m always a little amused at those who complain about the Republican ‘B team’ candidates. Hey, you hand-wringing sideliners — where IS your A team, anyways? Oh right, on the sidelines next to you.
In a year when Obama is vulnerable, the economy is down, the country is in trouble, and people want real change, Jeb Bush, Haley Barbour, Chris Christie, Rudy Giuliani, and so on aren’t running. Why? They have various reasons, so they say, but the unstated reason is the elephant in the room: they don’t think they can win, and so they don’t want to sully their political reputations.
To heck with that. As the young woman said in the movie Chariots of Fire, you can’t win if you don’t run. I might not be completely happy with Mittens, Newt and Religious Rick, but they’re the ones who are out there, and one of them is going to get my vote in November.
Mr. Jeb Bush: sit down, be quiet, and stay home. Don’t bother coming to the convention, even if we don’t have a nominee at that time, you won’t be wanted. Certainly not by me.
“Jeb Bush, Haley Barbour, Chris Christie, Rudy Giuliani, and so on aren’t running. Why?”
- If I’m misunderstanding you, I apologize in advance, but do you really consider Giuliani to be an ‘A-list’ Republican candidate? Someone who really represents the classical Conservative Mind?
I can’t vote for anyone who currently has a chance of winning, Democrat or Republican. They all represent parts of the same problem that is killing our country. The closest anyone running right now comes to my worldview is Rep. Paul, and I still don’t agree with everything he says.
I don’t know what positions Jeb Bush, Christie, et al have, as I have not followed their careers. However, if Giuliani qualifies as an ‘A-List’, then it doesn’t matter if they aren’t running afterall.
Giuliani is a solid fiscal conservative. He’s a hardworking incorruptible administrator. His handling of law enforcement is nothing short of genius. The results of which meant that 1000 less people was murdered every year in New York. His methods has literally changed the way law enforcement operates all over the world. He managed the most impressive turnaround of a major City in recorded history. Before he was a Mayor, he was the most successful US attorney ever in New York. Among his accomplishments was the most successful prosecution of the Mafia in US history resulting in hundreds of convictions of high level Mob leaders (By the way at great risk to his own personal safety). Does the name John Gotti mean anything to you?
And what have YOU done in your life that is so great?
Who his friends are, who he screws and what church he goes to has no baring on his job performance or on your quality of life in any shape or form. People that work 80 hours a week always has trouble keeping a family together.
“Giuliani is a solid fiscal conservative.”
- Really. Considering that when he was running for president, his foreign policy could basically be summed up with the idea that ‘Bush didn’t go far enough’. Hard to image how he could be a ‘fiscal conservative’ and then push aggressive foreign policy fueled by foreign debt. How exactly would that be ‘conservative’?
“Who his friends are, who he screws and what church he goes to has no baring on his job performance or on your quality of life in any shape or form.”
- Really? Because I think those points shed a good bit of light on his judgement, his self control and seriousness of oaths, and the foundation of his worldview, respectively. If Obama is suspect because of the company he kept (and he is) so is Giuliani. Goose, gander, sauce, as they say.
“They have various reasons, so they say, but the unstated reason is the elephant in the room: they don’t think they can win, and so they don’t want to sully their political reputations.”
That could be the case possibly (albeit I have not seen evidence of it). I see a different “elephant in the room”: With Obama being the first affirmative action POTUS, there is a concern out there about suffering the fallout of accusations of being labeled a “racist” for having to go negative on Obama in a race against him. It’s the very thing that drove McCain to conduct his campaign the way he did. It’s as if it’s against “the rules” to bring up Jeremiah Wright, Saul Alinsky, the controversy surrounding O’s birth certificate, etc. Sure, they will attack him on his policies but good luck with that if you’re Mitt “Mr. Romneycare.”
Bobbcat, I was just on the verge of writing a response similar to yours. I would add that none of the so-called “A-listers” would have really tried to win against The Won out of concern for unforeseen consequences.
Being “A listers” as you state above, they wouldn’t be able to live with themselves running a soft, gutless campaign as in the case of the current, pathetic crop we are stuck with. But with this dilemma posed by our AA POTUS, they choose not to run at all. May Obama be the last AA POTUS we ever make the sad mistake of electing, as his case of being so may account for us missing out on a strong leader at a time when we so really badly need one. To hell with AA; its destructive power knows no bounds.
The biggest threat to Obama, and by far the least likely threat, is
2) The Nixon-Reagan-Bush coalition could re-assert itself
America and suburbia boomed big for Republicans in 2010. Maybe the Tea Party revolt of 2009-10 is for real.
But what is it about Mitt Romney that will excite the Tea Party? He was Governor of the State of Massachusetts where Boston is located? I can’t see Romney running a Conservative campaign, I can’t see Romney detailing a finite list of goals (another Contract with America), I just can’t see Romney saying or doing anything that will excite the base.
Sure, there’s a lot of ABO around but visceral distaste for Obama really isn’t a motivator unless you have a clear and distinct choice. With Obama there’s not a lot of downside left, he’s a bad as bad can be, and he can’t do any more real harm unless Congress approves his continuing destruction of the country. With Romney there’s not a lot of upside, he’s got no viable plans for positive transformation change.
So for the GOP base Obama is all upside risk and Romney is all downside risk. Why vote for Romney if things are bad when there isn’t any upside?
But what is it about Mitt Romney that will excite the Tea Party? ”
1. He’s not Obama and that will count for a lot.
2. He is saying all the right things now. That too will count for something.
3) the TEA party realizes that removing Obama from office and taking the Senate is the next step necessary to saving the country. They will turn out for the Republican nominee no matter how distasteful.
First you stop the bleeding, then you worry about setting the broken bones.
“First you stop the bleeding, then you worry about setting the broken bones.”
Then WHY vote for Romney.
Romney has established, by his actions, that he will NOT Stop the bleeding, he’ll just maintain it at the current level without increasing it. What every good little Establishment Republican does, until another Democrat can come along and increase the bleeding again.
Ridiculous argument!
So, Obama is so bad that Mitt not being Obama should ignite the base? LOL, guess what, my grand grand mother is not Obama either. Hey! Mitt is NOT Hitler, and Hitler was really really bad, so now the base should euphoric! They will be ecstatic as soon they realize Mitt is not Mao, no Pol Pot and no Stalin. What a joy!
If your grandmother has the Republican nomination in November I will vote for her. Otherwise, I will vote for whoever is the Republican nominee, assuming that the Republican party does not nominate Barak Obama.
Saying all the right things?
Saying?
George H.W. Bush “said” the right things, can you say “READ MY LIPS?”
Romney has NEVER Done the right things, and it’s about actions vs. words now.
When push comes to shove Romney will Cave just like H.W. did with George Mitchell.
Read MY lips, “Romney’s Actions are so loud, I cannot hear a word he is saying.”
If you read this article (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/31/hurt-islamist-firster-president-not-what-he-claime/) by Charles Hurt you’ll find that Obama also said all of the “right things” in 2008
“Despite his background as a liberal street organizer, he campaigned on tax cuts and personal responsibility and preached that the government simply cannot be the answer to every problem. Republicans would have no choice but to go along with an agenda to shrink the tax burden and get the federal government out of our everyday lives.”
Obama sounded more conservative in 2008 than Romney does in 2012. Anybody who knew anything knew Obama was lying and Romney’s history strongly suggests that he is too.
If Romney can convince the electorate that:
– he is not ashamed of red-state Americans or contemptuous of their values;
– he will oppose cronyism and not enrich Wall Street at the public’s expense;
– he wants to stop and reverse the growth of the federal leviathan because it’s the right thing to do, and not merely because we are out of money;
– he intends to respect the laws and the Constitution, as written, instead of arrogating imperial power to himself and ruling by executive order;
– he intends to appoint judges that will similarly respect the laws and the Constitution, as written;
he will win this thing running away. Otherwise, meh.
Horsefeathers. Romney is the one candidate who can neutralize the Obamacare issue for the Left, and the Dems and their media minions are counting on that. I’m not going to vote for someone who won’t reverse that blot on American liberty. I’m not going to vote for someone who has done the same thing as the man who holds the office now, just because he’s a natural-born citizen and the incumbent isn’t. I’m not going to vote for someone whose positions change with every election campaign he enters.
To think that thousands of voters would do so insults the integrity of a lot of Americans. I will sit out the election; but I won’t vote for Obama because I know what he plans to do and I won’t vote for Romney because I have no idea what he plans to do and I don’t want to find out.
Romney will listen to the voters, if only to save his own political skin. Obama will do whatever he pleases, confident that the crooked MSM will go to bat for him.
What about eligibility? Interesting court cases happening in Georgia and other states. Not easily dismissed birther stuff but based on uncontested fact that Obama’s father was never a citizen. A real ticking time bomb for the Dems.
But I find it amusing that this self-described Democrat partisan has left off the biggest liability: Obama himself. The MSM has been covering for him like mad but the truth is emerging and he is turning out to be one of the worst leaders ever. Incompetent, out of touch, polarizing (even the Wash Post says so..), and downright dangerous. If it comes down to Romney vs Obama, Obama’s negatives will be definitive.
Obama has been so abhorrent as President, even the MSM is going to have a hard time spinning this election in a positive manner. Everyone with an ounce of sense knows the this supposed uptick in the economy is baloney. We are simply in the eye of the hurricane.
Obama now has a record. It is one clearly of epic failure in virtually every capacity. There is absolutely no excuse to vote for this sham again.
If America is stupid enough, corrupt enough to be bought with promises Obama can’t possibly fulfill not once, but twice, and myopic enough not to realize our debt unsustainable and Barack Obama an enemy of free enterprise, then we deserve to collapse like a house of cards.
Exactly. House of cards.
The eye of a hurricane is a good analogy as is the House of Cards.
I think most Americans know by now that voting Obama out is the only way to start saving this constitutional republic. Which brings me to this truism: America might be able to survive the utter neo-Marxist incompetence of one Barack Hussein Obama, but what it can’t survive are the partisan Obamabots who put such an unqualified leftist ideologue in office in the first place. Not only must Obama go, but also the leftist plantation mentality of the left which has blended the worst traits of crony capitalism with a regurgitative national socialism reminescent of 1930s Nazi Germany.
And it doesn’t help the cause of liberty to see the shamestream national socialist media carrying the water for this neo-socialist clown. Obama’s connections with radical leftists from Bill Ayers to his pastor of 20 years “Reverend” Jeremiah Wright to his embrace of the tactics of Saul Alinksy (and any number of leftist “mentors” who, by his own admission, formed his worldview) was never truly vetted. And now we’re paying the price for this Manchurian candidate. I just hope WHOMEVER wins the Republican nominee can win by at least the margin of Democratic voting fraud.
“I think most Americans know by now that voting Obama out is the only way to start saving this constitutional republic.”
And replacing him with Willard McDole will bring it back? LOL. You guys are delusional.
John Anderson cost Carter a half-dozen states in 1980? I remember him as a moderate Republican whose main appeal was to Republicans who thought Reagan was too conservative. I suppose he also appealed to Democrats who thought Carter was a jerk but couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Reagan, but surely he took more votes from Reagan than from Carter.
“As a partisan Democrat, I’m rooting for Mr. Obama…”
So, what are you, a marxist? The only people who are left in the Democrat Party are either Marxists or fools. The truly liberal–JFK Liberals, Scoop Jackson Liberals, Classical Liberals–jumped ship long ago. All that’s left are the SDS “liberals”. Democrat Socialists, Marxist-Leninists and Maoists.
Roger, why on earth do you have a freaking marxist writing in these pages? We’re surrounded by them in the MSM. I come here to get the countervailing opinion.
exactly
let us not worry about the ways obama can lose when there are countless ways the republican rulers can lose themselves
let us take this time to ask to author why he is a democrat in the first place
the easiest way to make obama a 1 termer is to get those who voted for him the first time around to stay away from the polls or, better yet, vote for the alternative
unless one is a union boss or a wall-street crony communist there is very little to gain from having obama in office; but the loss of liberty, private property, freedom, pursuit of happiness, etc… will be nearly guaranteed if obamanation gets a second term
You’re forgetting a large Dimocrat vote: those who live on foodstamps, welfare, etc: the poor-me blacks and illegal immigrants.
With these numbers rising daily, and voting Dimocrat to ensure their free money, the Republicans could soon be history.
Why do you folks always fail to acknowledge that the vast majority of welfare recipients and food stamp users are white? And why do you also fail to acknowledge that one of the largest drains on the taxpayer is old fat white baby boomers driving around on government-hand-out motor scooters, eating up trillions in taxpayer-subsidized Medicare and Medicaid for diabetes and heart conditions? I literally can’t wait for this entire generation of whiny, entitled “me first” lardasses to go to that big Country Buffet in the sky – we’ll no longer have to suffer the ridiculous irony of conservatives screaming at everyone else about free markets and socialism while they simultaneously cost everyone else trillions of dollars in government-funded health care.
Fair point. Except…
Whether privileged lard asses at the country buffet, white trash, blacks (disproportion demographically food stamp and welfare), or illegals, they’re all equally worthless and paid for when voting Dimocrat.
Anybody that would now vote for a clearly failed President damaging the country, perhaps irreparably, is simply a partisan hack.
There would be no medicare or medicaid if the big-government, nanny state, socialist Lyndon Johnson wouldn’t have rammed the Great Society down our throats. He damaged our country irreparably. Add what he did to what FDR did and it’s no wonder we’re in the mess we’re in.
This country existed for 150 years without entitlement programs and prospered and turned out strong people of character, shaped by personal responsibility and hard work and faith. Our ancestors would look at us in scorn. To not pay your own way and not take care of yourself and your own family was considered shameful, as it should be. Now people are proud of being lazy and uneducated and totally dependent on government for their survival. And the crime is that they have the right to vote.
I don’t know that most welfare recipients are “fat, white baby boomers,” but if you are looking forward to them all dying off, I hate to burst your bubble. If the public school sytem is allowed to continue as it is, curriculum and all else mandated by the federal government, it will put out a whole new generation of them, taught that they are owed a living, bereft of being taught any moral values and work ethics.
Your call: me, I came here to get a CONSIDERED opinion, let the chips fall where they say and the opinionator vote how he might. Mr. Reddy offers more clarity here than many a pundit with conservative credentials.
Rather than these technical possibilities, how about the fact that this spendthrift, clueless individual has shown little respect for separation of and balance of powers under the United States Constitution and doesn’t merit re-election, in any manner, shape or form ?
You know, a little truth ?
$5 Trillion and Change
“In other words, the four years of the Obama’s Presidency will mark the four highest years in spending and deficits as a share of the economy since Harry Truman sat in the Oval Office.”
Anyone with half a brain knows Obama’s spending habit is not sustainable. Romney would sustain (I.E.- do little or nothing to curb it) the spending but would do little to put a dent into the debt. Which is why we need a true conservative. Mitt’s continually whining that he *is* a conservative doesn’t make it so. I can declare myself an airplane but I’ll never be able get off the ground no matter how much I say it. Mitt is a RINO – and probably to the left of McCain too. Period.
To those of you who think it’s a “lock: for Obama because of all the “damage” the republicans have done to each other you’re forgetting two points of history. Clinton vs Obama was viscous and somehow he still won. Obama has yet to face any opponent yet and his platform gets smaller every single day.
Number 13– Fast and Furious is shown to have originated in the White House as a strategy to undermine the Second Amendment. To avoid this, watch for Holder to resign in April, at the latest.
You forgot one very big reason that he could lose. HE COULD RUN ON HIS RECORD !!!
It’s appalling that the nation’s chief executive has no better re-election strategy than insisting “the rich” pay a little more (entire fortunes could be confiscated and the debt would barely be touched), than he and his sycophants constantly casting aspersions of racism and engendering class warfare.
Obama’s chief re-election honcho David Axelrod will say anything at all and is given a pass by the Obama media. Axelrod is beyond despicable.
If you’d like a little reminder of the BS spewed by this administration, Milton Friedman is cathartic, this video made just prior to the dumping of the one termer who previously held the title of worst ever president.
It’s Nothing New
Ways Obama could lose?
1) Hold a fair election against most likely Mitt Romney.
That’s pretty much it. Obama is horribly unpopular in too many states.
I would say President Obama’s chances for re-election are looking pretty good right now.
“Generic Republican” could probably still beat him, but we only have Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney.
One has more baggage than a Victorian African safari, and the other is not a Conservative any way, shape, or form. He’s a ‘Pubbie Obama without the race advantage.
You left one off the list:
Obama could govern as President for four years as the worst president EVER with the worst economic results ever, the worst foreign policy results ever, the worst fiscal results ever and the worst legislative history ever.
That might be another way he could lose.
His followers have no problem rationalizing all that. They believe he actually is ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan rather than conceding them, likewise the economy is bad because of George Bush. And everyone loves us now.
Unless people can be propagandized into believing that what’s happening all around them – an economic depression that rivals the great depression – isn’t happening I can’t see Obama winning against any opponent in November. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if he loses in a 55% for anybody else 45% for Obama landslide.
Ain’t gonna happen. In 2008 with no real record in which he lied his head off with the protection and support of the MSM and being and sexy enough to get the children’s vote (18-25 year college students) and reality challenged everywhere he was able to pull off only 53% against a Republican who couldn’t wait to concede. To suggest he is going to do better after Obamacare, the XL pipeline, Honduras, the crazy Cairo speech and keeping Netanyahu waiting while he had supper among a hundred other scandals is assuming a lot.
The Republicans who are dissatisfied with this year’s slate of potential Republican presidential nominees seem to be looking for 3 things in their dream candidate:
1. Someone who is relatively new to politics at the national level
2. Someone without personal baggage
3. Someone with a ready-made political campaign of national scope and media-dominating power.
In other words, they want a Republican Obama to take on the Democratic one. The problem with this is that no two of these three things is entirely consistent with the third. Any realistic Republican presidential nominee is going to be compromised on at least one of them.
The Romney campaign is succeeding because they are at least managing their deficiencies on these three points reasonably well. On point 1, Romney is from the political generation in-between someone like John McCain and someone like Paul Ryan. Romney has been around at the national level for a while, but not for *forever*. On point 2, Romney does have some baggage with a more liberal past and his corporate years, but it’s still a lot less than the kind of baggage Obama has. And on point 3, Romney is still the guy who is racking up the critical primary wins and bringing in the big political endorsements.
I look at it this way. If Obama wins it will be a sqeaker and most likely the result of incredibly dirty and vicious campaigning and almost non-stop media bias that even Juan Williams would have to acknowledge. That will be a Pyrrhic victory at best, and a lot of people will be turned off by him.
And then the fun begins, as the Obamacare taxes kick in, Canada begins to build its pipeine to China, the unemployment rate ticks back up over 10%, gas hits 5 and 6 bucks a gallon. And in foreign policy we’ll see the modereate Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Libya establish Sharia Law and start stoning loose women and reafirming ties to Iran, who will probably get their nuke despite Obama’s repeated saying of “pretty please.”
The Democrats will be anhililated in the 2014 off year, removing scum like Al Franken and others from DC (and my personal wish Senator Sarah Palin who wins back the Stevens seat that was stolen). You may see a bloodbath like the GOP suffered post-Watergate in 74, and a possible veto proof majority in both houses.
That being said, I am worried about an Antohony Kennedy heart attack anywhere near this idiot being the one to name his successor.
Well, if you’d like to see the dogs of war let slip, you’d see it if Sarah Palin tried to get the Republican nomination for US Senator. I don’t think there’s enough forgiveness in the World to overcome her making all her assurances to everybody who is anybody in Republican politics here that she wasn’t going to run against Lisa Murkowski and then setting up a proxy, Joe Miller, whose relationship with the Republican Party of Alaska was if anything worse than hers. Nobody who ever supported Republican Party chair Randy Ruedrich is going to support her. Nobody who worked for Frank Murkowski, and that is most activist Republicans, is going to support her. Nobody who supported Lisa Murkowski is going to support her. You’d do well to remember that Sarah’s puppet, Miller, was defeated by Sen. Murkowski in a write-in campaign.
The only way she could get the nomination would be if there was no interest on the Democrat side so she could get a lot of NPs, her primary support going back to her run for Governor, to vote for her in the Republican Primary. (Alaska’s Republican Primary is “semi-closed:” only Republicans and NPs can vote. If you’re registered with another party, e.g., Libertarian, Constitution, AIP, Democrat, you can’t vote in the Republican Primary.)
Alaska Republicans are probably disciplined enough that they would support her were she the nominee, and we certainly want back the seat that the USDOJ stole from us, but she’d have very little Republican support in the Primary. The Anchorage Daily News and the Democrats loved her so long as she was trashing Republicans and she governed here as a populist with lots of Democrat support, but they dutifully started hateing on her when she became the VP nominee and continue to do so. She’s pretty much worn out her welcome with the electorate here, but probably could beat Begich IF she got the nomination.
Michael Bloomber as a third party run cause an upset? Never! He might steer some votes away from Obama in NY but Obama would still carry the state. Its doubful anyone outside of The New York City area would go for Bloomberg.Bllomberg on a third party run in states outside would barely be blip on the radar screen. Its the NYC curse!
Obama would lose if the media would commit a few ramdom acts of journalism and actually report the news with some objectivity. We know that won’t happen so voters are educating themselves and they are educating others. The Fed is devasting savers with 0% interest rates – actions taken to prop up the economy but it has consequences, food and gas prices are rising yet we are told inflation is minimal, historic unemployment for the youth, we are paying attention. Obama is vote buying with promises to college students and now homeowners to refinance their mortgages without credit checks, those of us who play by the rules are awake.
Fast and Furious, Solyndra, Beacon, Keystone, coal plants shutting down, attacks of Boeing, Gibson Guitar, etc are but a few items. OWS is another, the Dems embraced this movement, it is growing more violent and calling for activists to step up, especially 1968 style activism at the G8 in Chicago, Oakland is attacking our police…there will be much more of this, we know Obama and the Left (led by Soros money) embrace this movement…the media doesn’t report what is happening but thankfully, bloggers do.
Right. Lots of chickens incoming.
Interesting speculation, but nothing more than that. When you throw in the issue of health, it looks like a generic list, rather than insightful commentary. Then, when you mention scandals and cite Monica Lewinsky as an example, that’s even more generic. The relevant scandals are there, waiting to be plucked from the tree; Solyndra, Fast and Furious, and stuff mentioned in “Throw Them All Out”.
Very good analysis of possible outcomes. But my truth is that the US has been in the ever-tightening 50 year grip of a leftist mindset which, like the anti-war hippies of my youth and the enviornazis of today, just want to stick it to “the adults” (read: middle-age white guys)to show that they can. Forget everything on the list above except the Black Swan stuff like war in the Middle East or a really big economic disaster of biblical proportions. The left has the whip hand and will use it without reason or mercy. They know that the time to finally win the culture war is now and they will use every trick in the book. Obama will get a second term and only then will we see if there is really any conservative will left among us or whether we have lost the US for several lifetimes.
I think the most likely of your scenarios is that the Republicans do mount a very effective campaign against Obama. I think this might come from someone like Santorum, although Gingrich might be able to do it (less likely than Santorum). Santorum is about the age of the President, vigorous, self-controlled (does not fly into rages) and can outdebate the others when given a chance to talk. Of course there are others who might do the same thing, such as Rubio, but he’s not running. A brokered convention might bring in a surprise candidate on the second ballot. Newt can be very effective, on the other hand, if he manages to stay steady instead of fly into emotional tizzies. I do not think Romney can beat Obama. He’s out of date (even though he looks healthy) and I can’t imagine him appealing to young people. Obama will probably win if the challenger is Romney, but one of your other scenarios might kick in too.
I doubt even him getting killed would cost Obama the elections. The election fraud machine has been perfected now at DNC headquarters to the point they can produce any result they want.
bingo. It’s not who votes, but who counts the votes that matters.
A recent Harris poll show that 88% of people believed our government is corrupt. 88%!!! That is what you would expect in a country like Mexico, not the US. Given that it is hard for me to believe that people will keep the status quo. I don’t think that most people who observe Obama just paying off a different group of supporters “change we can believe in”.
And the other 12% are wrong! Read “Throw Them All Out”, “Radical-in-Chief”, Malkin’s “Culture of Corruption”, “Injustice”, and “Reckless Endangerment” and see if you don’t agree. Then look at the Heritage Foundation’s Economic Freedom Index, which includes corruption – we have slipped quite a bit.
WAKE UP AMERICA – ABO – Anybody but Obama – hold your nose if you have to but don’t sit it out!
Careful, Anybody But Bush got us here.
Right, Tea Party Dave,
We primarily need to get Obama OUT of that office. But no one in these blogs has mentioned the fact that we need to get good honest conservative candidates elected in the Senate, as well as the House, and in our state legislatures. If Obama would win a second term we could at least hold him down with conservative Republican majorities everywhere else.
Montana’s Sen. Tester and Sen. Baucus (Ds) brag about what they have done for our state – things any loyal Montana representative should have done – then they vote for every Obama spending bill that comes along. Baucus had a big part in Obamacare then bragged he would pass it without any help from the Republicans. He might as well have said “from his Montana constituents (at that time polls showed Montanans 68% against government controlled health insurance).
I agree TeaPartyDave, we need to get Obama OUT of that office. One thing no one has mentioned in all these comments is that we need to elect good, honest, Conservative Republicans in the House and Senate, as well as in our state legislatures. We could at least keep Obama from most of his acts of destruction with Conservative, Constitution abiding Republicans in the majority everywhere else.
Proud member of TEMPO (The Eastern Montana Patriot Organization – Tea Party)
Nothing is certain, except death and taxes, and perhaps the coming technocratic individual mandate ( where an individual’s inactivity and failure to consume is really commerce reduced to it fundamental elements: the Active particle and the Inactive particle of which both are required to make the Commerce particle in the economic sub-universe of which we all have are little individual parts to play at the behest of the elite technocrats). See, it’s in the nature of the universe, of which the iron law of oligarchy is its pale reflection.
1. Win the popular vote, but loose in Electoral College. Article II, Section 1 of the US Constitution specifies the Electoral College chooses the President and Vice President. Popular vote is irrelevant.
2. Nixon-Reagan-Bush coalition did not split up. In 2006, republicans lost congress because blue dog democrats ran (falsely) as centrists, many of them as pro-gun, fiscal conservative patriots. The Tea Party morted them out of the House in 2010 and will take another toll in the Senate in 2012. In 2008, the media propagandized for Obama and against McCain and Palin. The last presidential election was about Hope & Change, and not being Bush. Naive voters projected Obama as the answer to all their problems. Now we all know what he is by what he has done.
3. Blamed personally? Do you mean held accountable for his policies? Bailouts for his union buddies, takeovers of the auto, medical, banking, insurance and energy sectors are opposed by 60%. Open borders have us awash in illegal aliens taking jobs Americans should have. Unions in the private sector are dying so Obama pushes card check. De facto cap & trade imposed by EPA and DoE have doubled gas prices. Ethanol has driven up food and prices – meat, bread, corn and milk. His decisions to withdraw our troops from Iraq and throw Israel under the bus were not as harmful as his Saul Alinsky Arab Spring.
4. What is a “flash-crash”? An October surprise, like the banking collapse resulting from Fannie & Freddie risky loans, the loans that Bush tried to warn about 17 times in 2008 alone. The ones Bawany Fwank said were sound. Chuck Schumer warned his pals in an email to steer clear of IndyBank in April 2008, causing a run and the failure of the bank. Democrats seem to know a lot about the crash of 2008. I wonder why?
5. European debt crisis. Obama’s fiscal model is to follow Greece. The public is aware of what he is doing.
6. War in the Middle East! Reread Obama’s Cairo speech and look at his policies to destabilize governments from Libya to Pakistan. Iran will soon have a nuke and our former ally, Egypt, will attack Israel as Obama writes nasty notes to the UN.
7. Minority & youth turnout. Black unemployment is double that of whites. They want jobs, not handouts. Entry level job applicants are not being hired because experienced workers are available for the same wages. Many young recent graduates have little to show for their education besides massive debt. When they return home to live with their parents they default on their student loans.
8. Third party candidate. It would be embarrassing for Obama to finish third.
9. Poor Obama campaign. I agree. In Iowa, running unopposed, Obama only took 80% of the democrat vote. Without the ability to disenfranchise 150,000 military voters, stuff ballot boxes in every city, find ballots in union halls and voters in cemeteries, intimidate voters and buy local officials, Obama will need to run on his policies. No human could explain why he has done what he did to this country, with or without a TelePrompTer. Even a billion dollars in media will not help. Sixty three percent of Americans get their news from the web. Everyone knows Newspapers, magazines, and broadcast media lie.
10. Brokered Republican convention. Why would that matter?
11. Republican VP. Rubio won’t run.
12. President’s health. Are you talking about his smoking, his drinking or his drug use?
Here are some suggested slogans:
“Obama killed Osama bin Laden.” Wrong. Seal Team Six did. Obama might have been aware of the raid, but if so why was he on the back nine at Andrews during the most critical military operation of his presidency.
“Obama created 3 million jobs.” Yeah, but he killed 10 million.
“American are racist.” Wrong again, but if so, Obama is giving them ample justification.
“Obama needs another term to finish the job.” Another Obama term would finish us all.
President Obama is not only going to lose, he is going to lose in epic, record-setting fashion. He is toast. Even if he ends up running against Mr. Potato Head. It will be a glorious day for this country when amatuer hour finally comes to an end. I can’t wait!
The polls tell a different story. Even conservative pollster Rasmussen has Obama ahead of all potential GOP nominees. Even PPP has a poll with Obama ahead in Ohio by about 7 points today. Wishing doesn’t make it so, especially when you have no evidence to support what you say. Just makes you sound like an idiot.
Be very careful with polls. Look at the sample sizes, whether they sample likely voters, registered voters or adults. Also, look at the political breakdowns. Since 2008, the republicans have picked up about 4% on the democrats and independents are growing with voters leaving both political parties. In 2010, none of the polls called the tsunami that swamped the democrats. Elections break late.
Don’t confuse Obama’s personal “popularity” with the overwhelming unpopularity of his policies. Much of his personal approval comes from the Brady effect. If a pollster asks if we like a black man (or if you voted for him) 10% of us will say yes (lie) not to be perceived as a racial bigot.
Even though Rasmussen call Obama at 49/49, Look at the strongly approve vs strongly disapprove numbers. They show 12% gap in favor of disapproval. These are the people who actually vote, contribute and work for the politicians.
Recently, republican candidates have not behaved well, a fact the media is delighted to announce. When a slate is nominated and they roll out the issues, Obama will have big problems.
Just calling it like I see it Cynder. You want evidence? Just look around. The country’s going down the tubes and its obvious to everyone despite what the media says. What are you expecting? “Thank you sir. May I please have another?” I dont’ think so. Economy showing signs of improvement? Riiiight. I know unemployed democrats who will vote for Mr. Potato Head this time around. I know independents who voted for President Obama who will vote for Mr. Potato Head this time around. I know college students who voted Obama who this time will vote for Mr. Potato Head. I know people who don’t even vote who will vote for Mr. Potato Head. I don’t even think Hillary will vote for him this time around. And Occupiers? Well, they don’t even know how to vote. So you do the math; not even close.
Dems are sure Obama will walk away with it because they’re stuck inside the Liberal bubble and haven’t got a clue about what the majority of the country is thinking. And I say this because as a 25+ year Manhattanite I personally KNOW them.
Democrats especially always forget the inconvenient truth that Al Gore lost his “home” state of Tennessee. If he’d carried Tennessee, he wouldn’t have needed Florida. Why did he lose it? We know him for the self- serving phony he is.
One could argue that obama won in 2008 because Bush didn’t intervene and force a soft landing for the bad loans. Bush did have a $300M stimulus that increased GDP in Q2 2008 because it was a complete tax rebate, but he never did anything about the housing crisis, and it exploded in the fall (probably because Soros and co pricked the bubble by taking Lehman Bros down and by the Money Market run the week after Lehman fell).
But here is the difference for 2012; the marxists won’t hesitate for a second to do whatever is necessary to get little lenin reelected. They may make a mistake, but they won’t fail for lack of effort.
And like 2008, 95% of the governments in the world will cooperate with obama or be working for him on their own. There absolutely won’t be a market crash this year, and if a shoot-em-up starts, it absolutely will be one that works in bams’s favor. Iran ain’t gonna be taking no hostages this year. Bank on it. How come we don’t hear about that American hostage in Egypt, btw. Shouldn’t there be a tv show dedicated to that by now. It’s almost like nobody cares. Don’t be surprised, though, if there isn’t a very dramatic rescue in the near future. The poor boy may have to suffer until October, but if I was him, I wouldn’t be overly worried. Spike will send the Seals in at an opportune moment.
Nobody, not even the marxists, can control everything, but their willingness to try gives them a massive edge that few people are talking about.
The President will keep right on doing the same thing he has been doing for four years…campaigning. It remains to be seen whether that will be enough to cause his defeat at the polls. We can hope.
Gallup polling shows a huge Obama defeat coming down the pike.
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/gallup-state-numbers-predict-huge-obama-loss/352881
One can only wonder what shenanigans the Chicago thugs can conjure up to hold back the landslide going the wrong way for them.
As long as the GOP can manage to keep from stepping on their collective crank (no mean feat) the coming landslide looks and feels inevitable. Too bad my own home state (Washington) will still be blue. Makes me even more blue. We’ve had democrat governors for 26 years IIRC. Time for a change – all but lefty Washington.
As a partisan Democrat, I find your analysis refreshing.
Anybody that votes for the traitorous Muslim communist, illegal alien POTUS that we have Occupying White House now, the lying one with no BC
A bag of trash could beat Øbama, because he is a POS, and therefore he smells worse
A vote for Øbama is a a traitors vote. A vote for globalist bankers, that will be forcing our populace into economic slavery, through bailouts, inflation, excessive taxes and facist governmental regulations.
A congress that has an approval rating of 9% needs to be fired.
We are a christian conservative nation, and the communist/Marxist agenda has been working in this country to take us over for over 90 years. Time to throw these bums to the wolves.
I have no mercy if push comes to shove, because I will be shoveling dirt over these persons. They are just straight stupid and useless.
I feel sorry for Øbama. What is he going to do when he has no secret service to protect him 24/7? He has made a lot of patriotic American extremely angry with his constitution stampling agenda. He will get his.
Is that PC? of course not, but it may have a kernel of truth to it all
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I am really upset that this website would even let you spout such BS on a conservative site. This diatribe has sickened me and made me angry once again.
I am disenchanted that A fellow American would even think about voting for the Socialist agenda
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If war in the Middle East broke out, or even if there were an “Arab spring” in Saudi Arabia, gasoline prices would skyrocket and people would ask questions like:
1. What is Obama doing to encourage petroleum development in the U.S.?
2. Was turning down the Keystone pipeline a good idea?
3. Why are the Canadians looking at building a pipeline to their west coast?
Obama doesn’t want any of these questions asked, not when Americans are sitting in line to buy gas and wondering who to vote for.
If I remember correctly, Reagan was un-electable. Carter was leading in the polls by 68%, right up until people started to vote.
I will give you 12 ways Obama could lose.
1. Engage in an illegal war.
2. Make unconstitutional recess appointments and display an ‘in your face’ attitude about it.
3. Surreptitiously arm gangs of bloodthirsty criminals in order to justify new gun control measures.
4. Sign into law the Defense Authorization Act.
5. Allow his AG to turn a blind eye to voter intimidation by racist thugs.
6. Appoint a virtual freakshow of radicals as unaccountable czars.
7. Disparage the American people in general and the Free market.
8. Socialize the medical industry and incorporate into that scheme an individual mandate that requires citizens to buy products from private companies.
9. Plunge the country into unimaginable debt.
10. Endorse OWS.
11. Coddle our enemies and abandon our allies.
and…..(*drum roll* )
12. Attempt to force all right-to-lifers to engage in pro-abortion activities.
I could have easily listed 20 or 100 things he has done that are going to cost him the election. #12 is gonna be the real kicker as he has essentially declared war on the Catholic church. Those folks will never get in line, they will start a shooting war first. It wont matter if Captain Zero spends 100 billion on his campaign. He will lead in the polls right up until people start to vote.
I have a friend who was a very enthusiastic supporter of Captain Zero. The weekend after the Defense Authorization Act was signed into law I had a BBQ. When he arrived at my house he went straight to the beer cooler, popped a top, and came straight over to me. ” I cant believe what he did. I cant believe he signed that into law. My God he has thrown away what it means to be an american.”
I was a bit taken aback. My friend was trembling, his face was pale, he was visibly shaken. In 2008 his loyalty to Captain Zero was almost fanatical. Bit by bit I had watched it chipped away, but now he curses Captain Zero at every opportunity. There are huge numbers of people out there like that. They may have swallowed the hopenchange crap the first time around, but now they see what he really is; a tyrant.
Patrick Reddy, you might want to engage in a little introspection. Do you really want to support a party and a candidate who does not believe in the rule of law, liberty or the values that made us what we are? Who believe in the collective instead of the individual? Whose main support is from people too young to know better and minority groups who vote based on skin color and free hand-outs?
Maybe the TEA party revolt is for real? I think you are in for a shock.
Ah, ahem, Obama’s policies could continue to sink the economy?
His class warfare rhetoric, as uplifting and inspiring as Al Gore’s, could further sour the public?
13. Obama’s name is removed from the ballot in many states because he is not a natural born citizen, making it impossible for him to get 270 electoral votes.
In 1862, Congressman John Bingham—the “father of the 14th Amendment”—stated, “All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians.” In 1866 Bingham stated, “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” Bingham’s definition was never disputed by other Congressmen. (Unscrupulous Obots—including attorneys filing briefs with the U.S. Supreme Court—have omitted the words “of parents” when quoting Bingham’s statement, in a shameful and intentional effort to mislead.)
In Minor v. Happersett (1875) Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Morrison Remick Waite wrote, “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.”
In Schneider v. Rusk the Supreme Court stated, “We start from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the ‘natural born’ citizen is eligible to be President.” The U.S. Supreme Court therefore specifically noted, in its 1964 ruling, that “natural born citizen” does not have the same meaning as “native born citizen” or “naturalized citizen.” All are citizens, but only one subcategory of citizens can be called natural born citizens. Therefore, those who argue that Obama is a natural born citizen merely because he was born in Hawaii are incorrect. Birth in Hawaii only makes Obama a native born citizen. To be a natural born citizen requires two U.S. citizen parents—and Obama had only one.
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I pray you’re right, but I believe he will be reelected by corruption!
Gee, talk about proving closed-mindedness on the Left’s part. #6, $300 a barrel for oil? Not if Keystone and Gulf coast drilling and North Shore/ANWR weren’t all being blocked. We have to be the only country in the world stupid enough to let a minority of loudmouths block all efforts to reduce our dependence on foreign petroleum – let alone have environmentalists who think blocking a Canadian pipeline through the USA will stop Canadians from building a pipeline or expanding THEIR oil exploration.
But no, can’t think that way. However, the author is at least realistic enough to acknowledge the ultimate karma – that the man who won his first state Senate race by getting all his opponents tossed off the ballot might not be re-elected because he gets tossed off the ballot.
Hey Patrick Reddy, you said as a partisan democrat you are rooting for Mr. Obama??
Well, being you obviously worship and adore him and his policies, then I REALLY HOPE you lose your job, lose your house, and then become destitute and have to apply for food stamps endorsed by the “food stamp president,” like millions of Americans have under the Obama regime!
If that is the kind of lifestyle you purport to love, by still rooting for BO, then hey! I hope YOU get rewarded for your allegiance to his “fundamental transformation of the United States of America.” I’ll root for you. Yeah! he no longer has a job, no longer has a home, and he has to get food stamps. He’s a happy man! He loves Obama!
I for one, loved America the way it has survived for 200+ years — ***without Obama***!
Who does he think he is thinking “he” is the “answer” to “everything”, and that he knows what’s best for me and America? Who does he think he is thinking he can just dictate MY LIFE and the lives of millions of Americans? One man??
Does he really think that we were miserable for over 200 years without him, and now he’s our almighty savior? Apparently he thinks so, and apparently you do too — or you wouldn’t be rooting for him, but instead be smart enough to see the damage he has done to America — damage that just may be irreparable!
Check out the misery index! It’s worse than the Jimmy Carter years.
So keep “rooting for Obama,” and enjoy your fundamental transformation to a third-world America.
Obama’s Enemies List David and Charles Koch have been the targets of a campaign of vituperation and assault, choreographed from the very top.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204…
“John Anderson in 1980 cost Jimmy Carter at least a half-dozen states”
That is a very dubious claim indeed. Anderson’s best showing was in New England states drawing votes from liberal Republicans who normally still would have voted for a non-Reagan GOP nominee–and Reagan *still* won all those states except RI.
Look, reams of number-crunching analysis since 1992 have led psephologists to conclude Perot probably caused no state to shift that year from where it would have come out if he had not been in the race (drawing from both parties)–and he got nearly 20% of the vote! Anderson barely managed a quarter of Perot’s vote share–he in no way, shape or form affected that contest in any material way.
As a Republican I rarely read anything written or produced by partisan Democrats so this is a rare occurrence which could not be passed up. I take Mr. Reddy’s courageous admission that he’s a “partisan democrat” at face value as my dictionary’s definition of partisan is a “biased supporter…..” which I take to mean is one who supports on the basis of affiliation as opposed to substance.
Nothing much to say about 1 & 2 except to agree that “Maybe the Tea Party revolt of 2009-10 is for real.”
As for 3, The president could get personally blamed. Damned right and rightfully so. Does Patrick think he’s blameless?
As to 4, could happen to anyone but Mr. Reddy ignores the fact, perhaps intentionally so or perhaps wishful thinking, that George Bush and the Republicans were largely responsible for the economic disaster that any intelligent, insightful and accurate assessment shows was the fault of the Community Reinvestment Act and Bill Clintons strengthening of same that caused the infamous housing bubble that is at the core of America’s and thus Obama’s current dilemma, one that he apparently does not or refuses to recognize as having anything to do with the democrats. It’s George W. Bush’s fault as Obama and Mr. Reddy’s democrats are forever reminding us.
As for number 5 Mr. Reddy and his democrats might be a little more concerned that Obama may get voted out because of the American debt crisis he so cleverly and determinedly engineered and I take no pleasure in the fact that this was accomplished with little to no effective resistance from my side.
Number 6. The Middle East has already erupted and continues to erupt while both the democrats and the republicans remain clueless to the underlying dangers. But, unfortunately for Obama, he has taken an already volatile situation and made it considerably worse by compounding George Bush’s efforts to “reach out” to the so called “religion of peace” in an effort to atone for our past sins which no one seems to be able to define with any certainty. It is in fact very simple. They hate America and much of the rest of the world because they are not Muslims………period and no amount of a** kissing or boot licking is going to mollify these fanatical bas****s.
Number 7 is certainly a legitimate concern for Obama and number 8 as well although the latter could work against both the major parties.
Number 9 is highly unlikely as his victory in 2008 proved. Question is, in 2012, whether his rhetoric, charisma and oratorical skills can overshadow the gross incompetence the voters have been exposed to over the past four years.
Numbers 10 and 11 I can only fervently wish turn out to be true.
Number 12 is of course added to make it an even dozen but this could effect any candidate from any party.
All in all Mr. Reddy’s “analysis” is what would be expected from any partisan that makes no effort to make decisions based on an intelligent assessment of the candidate or what the candidate stands for. There is nothing here about class warfare, America’s declining influence in foreign affairs, the persistent lack of economic growth, the enormity of the ever growing national deficit, a rogue justice department, egregious recess appointments, the growth of government, the illegal immigration problem, “fast and furious,” the green energy debacle, the Keystone Pipeline decision, “Obamacare,” etc., etc., etc. any and all of which will have a much bigger influence on the 2012 election than just a bunch of random quirks resulting in Obama losing in 2012 for nothing to do with his amply demonstrated incompetence.
Obama is a great campaigner…it”s the only thing he does well. Unless there is a total collapse of all the teleprompters and he comes down with a fatal disease, he will have a great campaign. The Republicans will muddle through as usual…. and obam will romp to victory. Some Reublicans are getting far too confident.
How tragically wrong the republican establishment is to compromise principle, sack the conservatives. and spit in the eye of the millions of folks among or akin to the clearly established members of the tea party. The same folks who got GW elected and then managed to convert his presidency into a disturbing unpopular laugher have decided they can beat leftist democrats by giving in(think prescription drug plan)and running a one time liberal boob who can switch principles like dirty sox in an effort to look good to the judge of the day.Imagine the meeting that concluded with an apparent belief that the most effective opponent of Obamacare would be the daddio of romneycare!
I just want to throw this out there: 270-268 wins are not safe. If even one elector in the majority turns unfaithful the election is thrown to the House of Representatives, with the faithless elector’s choice qualifying for the ballot. In 2000, Bush won unofficially 271-267, but the official result was 271-266-1, Lieberman having the 1. Now a faithless elector pledged to the losing candidate means nothing, neither does a faithless elector in a landslide, but a faithless elector that throws the election to the House is a recipe for chaos. Worse yet is a pair of faithless electors reversing the outcome. Watch out for Occupy the Electoral College.
“Maybe the Tea Party revolt of 2009-10 is for real.”
Guys like you have no idea what’s comng. The entire middle and southern parts of the country are seething with anger at this incompetent, arrogant, obnoxious, polarizing goofball in the White House. We don’t talk to pollsters about it, so we are invisible to you. Obama will be obliterated.
I like your spirit, Chester. I’d like to think Obama will be obliterated (electorally) as well, but I don’t think it will be quite that easy. Close to half of those polled (on a regular basis) show support for our “esteemed” POTUS. Remember too, he is our first affirmative action POTUS. Just think about how much AA insulates those who benefit from it from the consequences of ineptitude. It’s a powerful thing that I would like to see obliterated completely.
A remarkably civil thread given the topic. I’m a Florida registered Republican who lives in Australia. So I have a far away view of all this. A couple of observations. Keystone. Voters pump gas every week and it is going to irritate them every week. Unforced errors are silent vote killers. So is Gun Walker – like Waco and Ruby Ridge – it just violate American values in a way that will seal the case against Obama in many minds. I think Obama loses if the independents who will decide the election see his reelection as four more years of ‘the failure we know’. And I think he will win if those same people decide ‘better the failure you know than the failure you don’t.’ I voted for McCain confident I was voting for a great American whom I had some serious doubts about as a president. I had more concerns about Obama’s inexperience, which proved justified, but seriously underestimated the extent to which he would try to take the country in a direction it didn’t want to go. The explosive rise of the Tea Party and the shellacking of 2010 demonstrated that. Divided government may be the best the Republicans can do this time, but I personally think (hope?) the country will be better off if we get to 2016 with Paul Ryan’s budget in place and a more robust foreign policy led by even a Romney- I don’t mean attacking Iran, but I do mean a return to forthrightly supporting Israel.
…or Obama could kick Joe “Plugs” Biden aside for Hillary for his VP. If he does that, he almost assures himself of a second term, but you know what Bill and Hillary are capable of. They’d make sure Obama wouldn’t finish his term, they’d find a way to force him out of office. The birth certificate issue? His mother’s repudiation of her and barry’s US citizenship (did BHO ever get it back?), Eric Holder’s law violations? Obama’s own Constitutional transgressions?
Of course Biden’s own gaffs do nothing to help Obama’s re-electability, so what’s a poor ex-Indonesian citizen to do?
#13. Obama will continue to be himself (an America-hating, U.S. Constitution-rewriter, wealth-redistributionist, Marxist, corrupt Chicago-politico, Christian-pretending, prevaricator of the greatest degree). If he does that, and there’s no reason to believe he won’t, it’s curtains on a 2nd term.
So many articles penned by coastal folks with no clue about the nation. This piece makes sense, but key point: people in vital swing states HATE Obama. They are intelligent and informed. They know he is a disaster and will vote GOP.
Oh, and Ron Paul gets most of his support from the hard left. If he does not run, most of his supporters will go for Obama, as they did in 2008. Let’s be honest.
NO 1 reason is that he won’t be on the ballot. The writer failed to consider the uprising of the Citizens of this Country who have filed suit in over 19 states to keep him off the ballot. Check out the facts at http://obamaballotchallenge.com/georgia
Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” and he is in contempt of the GA State Court for missing his court date on 26 Jan 2012.
Hope springs eternal, of course, but an equally suggestive article could be written on 12 ways Obama could win. In the end, ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice.
There is a 13th way Obama may loose: Obama diqualified due to father not being a US citizen. Call me crazy, but, six states are reviewing the court cases that determine (legal precidents)a natural born citizen has two US citizen parents. Plus, the “Organizer In Chief/ACORN” has a Conneticut SS# and never lived or worked there. Didn’t ACORN use to register dead people to vote? How convienient! I rest my case. Peace.
An additional possibility would be that Obama withdraws from the race. His failure to show up to defend his right to be on the GA ballot is a strong indication of that happening.
Motions in several new states including MD, NY, FL and CA will be made. It’s likely Obama would fail to present any documentation if push comes to shove in those states.
A series of default decisions would turn him into a pariah among the Democrat leadership because all Democrat candidates on the same ballots would be at a disadvantage turnoutwise.
Obama would benefit in that not presenting his ‘birth certificate’ reduces his risk of prison time, unless someone in government gets aggressive in pursuing him legally.
It’ll be important for a “Qou Warranto” action to be taken against hi. Otherwise his radical judicial appointments will remain on the bench.
How about if he is not allowed on a lot of states ballots because he in not eligible to run.
The only one that really counts is that he is found illegible by the states that declare that he is not a natural born citizen but in fact a British subject like his father
Georgia has pretty much done that. But Georgia went to McCain in 2008 anyway. So Zer0bama doesn’t need Georgia. The ineligibility approach will only work if States that went for Zer0 in 2008 are targeted.
There’s also the possibility that enough states could disqualify him to run on their ballots that he can’t put together the votes.
I like that idea.
You forgot about Nixon in 60. He won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college to JFK.
Obama is fudging the employment numbers , as he does all numbers, by not counting all those who have quit looking for work. when you here the unemployment rate is 8.3% remember those who quit looking would raise that number to 16%. Everything Obama does is a lie, an obfuscation, an embellishment, a miss-reading of his teleprompter or a misquote.
Under Obama , who cries for “taxing the rich” here are the number of people who actually pay income taxes in America:Most voting-age Americans do not pay income taxes — approximately 50.6 percent.
That includes 53.91 million Americans who pay nothing in income taxes, and 64.7 million who get refunds in excess of what was owed. That’s 118.61 million out of 234.6 million Americans 18 years and older, based on data compiled by the Joint Committee on Taxation and the U.S. Census Bureau.
If Obama wants the rich to pay more why doesn’t he, Biden, Soros, Zuckerberg, Buffett and Immelt simply send in more with their statements it will be accepted by the IRS. If they don’t should they be known as HYPOCRITES?
Number 9 mentioned “scandal”. But Obama is immune to scandal because the media keeps him untouchable. Scandals to date are “Fast and Furious”, ineligibility due to his Father not being a citizen, Solyndra and LightSquared, George Soros ties, abandoning post on DOMA, forcing homose*uality on the military, Michelle’s $50,000 lingerie spree, longstanding relationship with known terrorist Bill Ayers, and now his belligerent attacks on conscience rights. I’m sure I missed a few.
They tell Us that Ron Paul is a Lunatic?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YveDGiLMcrk&feature=youtu.be
You folks, who’ll vote for a third candidate — PAY ATTENTION:
YOU ARE THROWING YOUR VOTE IN THE DITCH.
THERE ARE TWO MAJOR PARTIES, ONE OF THEIR CANDIDATES WILL WIN.
IF YOU DON’T WANT OBAMA. YOU MUST VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE, NO MATTER WHO WINS THE NOMINATION. OTHERWISE YOU GIVE THE WIN TO OBAMA.
IT’S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE FOLKS.
1 WAY IS TO LOOSE, DON’T VOTE FOR HIM….THE OTHER 11 DON’T VOTE
Actually, John Anderson made little if any difference in the outcome of the 1980 elections. As for Ross Perot, he actually saved Daddy Bush and the Repubs of ’92 a fearful trouncing. Perot took votes away from Slick Willie, not Bush 41. Anderson’s people would have probably split 50-50 between Reagan and the Peanut Man, ensuring that the latter would have still been zonked royally.
Personally, I’m all for #12!!