Comments on: Tweaking the Terrorist Watch List

By: R>B.

R>B. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:53:31 +0000

It is fact most terrorist attacks are done by muslims. Then we should go after muslims. HOW HARD IS THAT TO FIGURE OUT

By: Jay

Jay — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:48:14 +0000

Stourley K obviously didn’t bother to read the article before making ignorant comments. 95% of the list are not American citizens and are outside of the United States.

By: Kender

Kender — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:58:10 +0000

Great article John. The ACLU really needs to learn to be more honest in their bulletins and stances. To run around saying there are a million names on a list when they KNOW they are mistaken means they either don’t have the honesty to admit and correct their mistake or they are deliberately being dishonest about their press release.

If they don’t have the honesty that’s one thing, as we know to watch for it and can act accordingly. If they are deliberately keeping a lie in the public arena it just shows their partisan, anti-American colors.

By: Rubicon

Rubicon — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:23:43 +0000

Airline takeoff delays have nothing at all to do with the DHS watch-list. That is an airline industry issue & the airlines have long fought any action by any Congress to fix it.
So long as the govt provides an easily accessible, easily resolved, format to correct errors, and so long as once a correction is submitted the user can go forth with no additional delays, what’s the big deal. I have neighbors who were on the list. The name, Martin. Not a typical name. They missed their flight to Texas & were delayed for over 24 hours w/ no compensation. The govt provides no compensation & the airlines cannot be held accountable for a govt list they are forced to enforce.
The issue the ACLU “should” be moaning about is that the system has no way to be corrected quickly & no way for it to be refined on a regular basis to correct what will surely be errors through no fault of anyone, but goof-ups!
Now, if they want to complain about the reporter who did a negative story on the govt & ended up on the list, THEN, they have a leg to stand on.
The fact that some want us to always error on the side of “they are innocent until proven guilty so let them on the plane immediately,” is crazy. There is no way we can rely on that method because flights are right now, at the moment. Resolving a name issue will take awhile. So, to protect others, that person “must” be denied access, until there is a reasonable review & clearance, even if only a temporary clearance based on some sort of info someone has been able to easily verify.
No method will be perfect, but erring on the side of safety of the general public is more important than inconveniencing someone.
In addition, many on the list are foreigners. We have limited ability to correct or verify info about them. And, many on the list are people we “never” want on “any” plane,
“anywhere” in the world!
My response to those we cannot trust but would abuse our system of kindness to their advantage, is “TOUGH.” Become a human being who does not act irrationally & the world will one day trust you again!

By: Stourley K

Stourley K — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:43:28 +0000

400,000 terrorists in this country? Why haven’t they been arrested?! Actually, the list just a political tool used to harass patriotic Americans who stand up for constitutional rights.

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Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:44:34 +0000

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By: David

David — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:05:32 +0000

I don’t understand this concept that the government “war on terror” is keeping us safe. I perceive the whole concept to be a cruel joke. The government is running around acting like it is doing something yet they are doing little other than killing our rights and culture. Maybe that was the object of the terrorist all along, do something extremely bad and watch as we self distruct. The “list” is obviously an intrusion into liberty concepts that is worse than anything Lincoln, Wilson, and FDR ever thought of.
Our government should be finding countries that are the problem and taking the pain to them. If Islam is the culpert, then declare war on Islam. But to declare war on terror is like declaring war on the atom bomb. Terror is only an instrutment. We used it at Dresden and in Japan. So rather than declare innocent citizens terrorist or go around feeling up grandmothers in the airport, get the job done.
The fact that we have not had a serious incident since 2001 only means the terrorist either got the job done or are not in the mood to do anything at this time. After all, in our “brave” country all they would have to do is pop a firecraker in downtown Washington and everyone will kill themselves trying to escape the city.

By: Rosemary

Rosemary — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:06:08 +0000

Excellent post, as usual. Very well written. The content is very usual, especially those links. Great job!

By: reliapundit

reliapundit — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:39:53 +0000

1,000,000 names on list = “fake but accurate” = agw = iraq lost = europe hates usa/bush = the lies of the left.

if the truth was on their side and if their policies could work, then there’d still be a ussr.

By: cedarford

cedarford — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:20:53 +0000

MikeJ – Cedaford the system needs working on but sitting in a plane for 10 hours with no water, AC , Food etc…Is better then 3000+ laying in a grave… i bet you and the ACLU and the MSM would be the first one’s to complain if an attack got through that the United States is not doing enough to keep us safe. People need to just deal with it!

Allowing innocent people to deplane because companies overbooked flight times and decide it is cheaper to just let people sit hours rather than deplane – and hold them captive with laws that say they are terrorists themselves if they attempt to free themselves? It has nothing to do at all with terrorist evildoers, flight safety. It has everything to do with not losing
revenue from foolhardy bookings – and foisting the pain onto paying customers.

It is one thing to accept reasonable security. It is another to accept abuse of citizens with NO security risk – out of blind fascistic fervor that if people do not automatically do as “heroes in uniform who keep us all perfectly safe” wish on whim. Or ordering the masses about with an eye to profit or government pork or empire-building their shitty little corner of Homeland Security bureaucracy , then the Terrorists Win! The Terrorists Win!

Libertarianism has it’s points..So do American traditions of freedom and liberty.

Anyone saying they would go naked on their hands and knees onto a flight and accept being chained to their seats if “it only makes us a little bit safer from the 30,000 radical Muslims that want us dead” is absolutely outside American tradition – and frankly, not worth keeping alive…

We can’t debase ourselves endlessly for “perfect safety” and listen to sub-100 IQ law enforcement/security people bragging about how everyone “must comply with whatever your Heroes ask” because otherwise, the Heroes can’t be perfect everytime and the few thousand terrorists “out there” might “get lucky once” and kill more Americans.
Which they assure us, after 9/11, that any more deaths by that small band of “evildoers” – will destroy our civilization..And the Terrorists Win! The Terrorists Win!

Actually, we need reasonably effective, but not perfect security at a level we can afford and still operate efficiently with. Not security that cripples us competively and which costs so much we must ask China to loan us the money to pay for.
And if the terrorists wipe out some more Americans?
We pay them back…