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		<title>By: JESSEDZIEDZIC</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/truthers-vs-birthers-not-all-conspiracy-theories-are-created-equal/#comment-1395783</link>
		<dc:creator>JESSEDZIEDZIC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark in Texas</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/truthers-vs-birthers-not-all-conspiracy-theories-are-created-equal/#comment-406616</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>misanthropicus --  &lt;i&gt;But the primaries are over, the political landscape has changed, and not to better – shouldn’t we try to correct the course, particularly now when it has became clearer that something is amiss on the command deck?&lt;/i&gt;


Obama has much to lose and little to gain by releasing his birth certificate if it lists his race as &quot;White&quot;.  Right now most people don&#039;t know much about the controversy since the legacy media has no interest in reporting much about it except that some of the same people who are prominent in the Truther movement are also prominent in the Birther movement.  That may see unfair to you but that does not change things.  

Secondly, as you point out, there are a lot of Obama voters who are experiencing buyer&#039;s remorse now that it is clear that something is amiss on the command deck.  The thing is that people don&#039;t like to admit that they were wrong.  If they can find something to latch onto that allows them to believe that Obama fooled them into voting for him, many of the people who voted for Obama are likely to jump on that as an excuse to abandon him and his poll numbers would be way less than 50% in short order.

A significant number of people voted for Obama on the grounds that &quot;Wouldn&#039;t it be cool to vote for a Black man as president to prove that I am not racist and if he were elected it would put an end to racial turmoil in this country for all time.&quot;  If they have paid any attention over the last nine months, they might have noticed that it hasn&#039;t worked out that way.  Even if they voted for Obama, they are still called racist if they disagree with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>misanthropicus &#8212;  <i>But the primaries are over, the political landscape has changed, and not to better – shouldn’t we try to correct the course, particularly now when it has became clearer that something is amiss on the command deck?</i></p>
<p>Obama has much to lose and little to gain by releasing his birth certificate if it lists his race as &#8220;White&#8221;.  Right now most people don&#8217;t know much about the controversy since the legacy media has no interest in reporting much about it except that some of the same people who are prominent in the Truther movement are also prominent in the Birther movement.  That may see unfair to you but that does not change things.  </p>
<p>Secondly, as you point out, there are a lot of Obama voters who are experiencing buyer&#8217;s remorse now that it is clear that something is amiss on the command deck.  The thing is that people don&#8217;t like to admit that they were wrong.  If they can find something to latch onto that allows them to believe that Obama fooled them into voting for him, many of the people who voted for Obama are likely to jump on that as an excuse to abandon him and his poll numbers would be way less than 50% in short order.</p>
<p>A significant number of people voted for Obama on the grounds that &#8220;Wouldn&#8217;t it be cool to vote for a Black man as president to prove that I am not racist and if he were elected it would put an end to racial turmoil in this country for all time.&#8221;  If they have paid any attention over the last nine months, they might have noticed that it hasn&#8217;t worked out that way.  Even if they voted for Obama, they are still called racist if they disagree with him.</p>
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		<title>By: aprilnovember811</title>
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		<dc:creator>aprilnovember811</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cichawoda said:“For a better solution on how to handle the racist image some Rupublicans seem to be creating watch this: http://tinyurl.com/y9spcba”

You are the one who bought up race again.  You need to realize, that race has nothing to do with it.  I don&#039;t care if he is pink with purple polka dots.  I don&#039;t like his lack of character or substance.  There is nothing of any value in his mind or character to offer this country.  I think the guy is totally lacking a soul.  I think he is a morally corrupt opportunist, who uses vulnerable people for his own gain.  

Here are two black people, who don&#039;t like him either, and I know there are others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlTgrMCxPg  If you don&#039;t watch this entire video, at least watch the one that follows, in its entirety.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zjXN9mvGDs
In this video Gadaffi calls Obama his son, who was a &quot;son of Africa.&quot;  Now this is one of those moments in Hitler&#039;s Big Lie moments, when you will continue to disregard, and say, well there is some other explanation, right?


I have a doctor who I like very much, and I will mention this, because it&#039;s valid for this argument, is black.  This is near Washington DC.  My doctor does not like him.  My doctor has a friend who is retired from the FBI.  He used to work undercover and infiltrated the Weathermen organization before retiring.  This retired FBI agent, said the Weathermen had a plan to gain access to a high position in government and destroy the country from within.

  He told my doctor, he hasn&#039;t been sleeping, because he is afraid they may have accomplished their goal, by using Obama.  I don&#039;t mean that he wasn&#039;t a willing participant, I think he hates this country as much as the Weathermen do.  But, they are using eachother. 

 Look at the people in his life, Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, this Rev. Wright Character, who&#039;s church he attended for 20 years, but never heard utter a anti semitic, or racist statement in all of those 20 years.  Louis Farakan who loves Muammar Gadaffi(who by the way, now Obama wants to give $400,000.00 in taxpayer money to charities run by Gadaffi&#039;s two children, this transpired in the past couple of days, since Gadaffi came here.

 And who can leave out, that wonderful specimen of a human being, George Soros.  At the age of 14, was stealing from the Hungarian Jews, while they were being taken to Concentration Camps, by the way he has no regrets, actually, he said that is when his character was made, here is the link: 

http://www.asininity.com/archives/A2006101/


 Maybe one of these situations alone doesn&#039;t mean much, but when you add them all up, it all comes together.  If you still don&#039;t believe something isn&#039;t right here, again you prove Hitler&#039;s statement about the &quot;Big Lie.&quot;  You don&#039;t have to believe me, I&#039;m just giving you and others information.  What you do with it is up to you.  You can use it to become informed, or you can keep believing someone who I think is totally out for his own gain and power, and I think has zero conscience, Obama.  History and crime through the years is littered with criminals and victims, just like Obama, sociopath&#039;s who have no conscience.  They aren&#039;t like other people, because they lack empathy for others.  They speak of empathy, but their actions show different.  That is why they are so dangerous.  They say one thing, while their actions are showing something totally different.  

Gadaffi, just gave a big heros welcome to the man who planted the bomb on the Pan Am jet that killed hundreds of Americans and others in Lockerbie.  Obama of course acted totally indegnent about the whole thing.  We found out later, Obama knew this was going to happen, but feigned outrage.  And no one in the so called main stream press, find this unsettling?  Now he is giving, your money and mine to Gadaffi&#039;s two children for their charities.  I don&#039;t know about you, but this isn&#039;t the act of a true American, who wants the best for this country and its citizens.  

But go ahead, you and others including people in the press, including FOX news can keep their heads firmly planted in the sand, for fear of being called a racist!

I&#039;m a racist, and the new sense and proud of it.  Maybe you can just call it, good old fashion survival instinct.  I&#039;ll trust my own God given instinct, that all is not well with Obama and those who surround him, before I will Bill O&#039;Reilly, Sean Hannity, or Brian Williams of NBC, the National Barack Channel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cichawoda said:“For a better solution on how to handle the racist image some Rupublicans seem to be creating watch this: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/y9spcba”" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/y9spcba”</a></p>
<p>You are the one who bought up race again.  You need to realize, that race has nothing to do with it.  I don&#8217;t care if he is pink with purple polka dots.  I don&#8217;t like his lack of character or substance.  There is nothing of any value in his mind or character to offer this country.  I think the guy is totally lacking a soul.  I think he is a morally corrupt opportunist, who uses vulnerable people for his own gain.  </p>
<p>Here are two black people, who don&#8217;t like him either, and I know there are others.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlTgrMCxPg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlTgrMCxPg</a>  If you don&#8217;t watch this entire video, at least watch the one that follows, in its entirety.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zjXN9mvGDs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zjXN9mvGDs</a><br />
In this video Gadaffi calls Obama his son, who was a &#8220;son of Africa.&#8221;  Now this is one of those moments in Hitler&#8217;s Big Lie moments, when you will continue to disregard, and say, well there is some other explanation, right?</p>
<p>I have a doctor who I like very much, and I will mention this, because it&#8217;s valid for this argument, is black.  This is near Washington DC.  My doctor does not like him.  My doctor has a friend who is retired from the FBI.  He used to work undercover and infiltrated the Weathermen organization before retiring.  This retired FBI agent, said the Weathermen had a plan to gain access to a high position in government and destroy the country from within.</p>
<p>  He told my doctor, he hasn&#8217;t been sleeping, because he is afraid they may have accomplished their goal, by using Obama.  I don&#8217;t mean that he wasn&#8217;t a willing participant, I think he hates this country as much as the Weathermen do.  But, they are using eachother. </p>
<p> Look at the people in his life, Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, this Rev. Wright Character, who&#8217;s church he attended for 20 years, but never heard utter a anti semitic, or racist statement in all of those 20 years.  Louis Farakan who loves Muammar Gadaffi(who by the way, now Obama wants to give $400,000.00 in taxpayer money to charities run by Gadaffi&#8217;s two children, this transpired in the past couple of days, since Gadaffi came here.</p>
<p> And who can leave out, that wonderful specimen of a human being, George Soros.  At the age of 14, was stealing from the Hungarian Jews, while they were being taken to Concentration Camps, by the way he has no regrets, actually, he said that is when his character was made, here is the link: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.asininity.com/archives/A2006101/" rel="nofollow">http://www.asininity.com/archives/A2006101/</a></p>
<p> Maybe one of these situations alone doesn&#8217;t mean much, but when you add them all up, it all comes together.  If you still don&#8217;t believe something isn&#8217;t right here, again you prove Hitler&#8217;s statement about the &#8220;Big Lie.&#8221;  You don&#8217;t have to believe me, I&#8217;m just giving you and others information.  What you do with it is up to you.  You can use it to become informed, or you can keep believing someone who I think is totally out for his own gain and power, and I think has zero conscience, Obama.  History and crime through the years is littered with criminals and victims, just like Obama, sociopath&#8217;s who have no conscience.  They aren&#8217;t like other people, because they lack empathy for others.  They speak of empathy, but their actions show different.  That is why they are so dangerous.  They say one thing, while their actions are showing something totally different.  </p>
<p>Gadaffi, just gave a big heros welcome to the man who planted the bomb on the Pan Am jet that killed hundreds of Americans and others in Lockerbie.  Obama of course acted totally indegnent about the whole thing.  We found out later, Obama knew this was going to happen, but feigned outrage.  And no one in the so called main stream press, find this unsettling?  Now he is giving, your money and mine to Gadaffi&#8217;s two children for their charities.  I don&#8217;t know about you, but this isn&#8217;t the act of a true American, who wants the best for this country and its citizens.  </p>
<p>But go ahead, you and others including people in the press, including FOX news can keep their heads firmly planted in the sand, for fear of being called a racist!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a racist, and the new sense and proud of it.  Maybe you can just call it, good old fashion survival instinct.  I&#8217;ll trust my own God given instinct, that all is not well with Obama and those who surround him, before I will Bill O&#8217;Reilly, Sean Hannity, or Brian Williams of NBC, the National Barack Channel.</p>
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		<title>By: misanthropicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>misanthropicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE #200/Mark in Texas:
 
* misanthropicus Q: Basically, what you describe in Obama’s handling of this situation looks like crass opportunism &amp; deception for me – am I wrong?
* Mark A: No. I think that you are correct in that judgment. The point is that the things that you care about are not the same things that many Obama voters cared about, especially during the primaries.

* misanthropicus returns: But the primaries are over, the political landscape has changed, and not to better - shouldn&#039;t we try to correct the course, particularly now when it has became clearer that something is amiss on the command deck?</description>
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<p>* misanthropicus Q: Basically, what you describe in Obama’s handling of this situation looks like crass opportunism &amp; deception for me – am I wrong?<br />
* Mark A: No. I think that you are correct in that judgment. The point is that the things that you care about are not the same things that many Obama voters cared about, especially during the primaries.</p>
<p>* misanthropicus returns: But the primaries are over, the political landscape has changed, and not to better &#8211; shouldn&#8217;t we try to correct the course, particularly now when it has became clearer that something is amiss on the command deck?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark in Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>misanthropicus --  &lt;i&gt;Basically, what you describe in Obama’s handling of this situation looks like crass opportunism &amp; deception for me – am I wrong?&lt;/i&gt;

No.  I think that you are correct in that judgment.  The point is that the things that you care about are not the same things that many Obama voters cared about, especially during the primaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>misanthropicus &#8212;  <i>Basically, what you describe in Obama’s handling of this situation looks like crass opportunism &amp; deception for me – am I wrong?</i></p>
<p>No.  I think that you are correct in that judgment.  The point is that the things that you care about are not the same things that many Obama voters cared about, especially during the primaries.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes it is embarrassing to have an intelligent and well spoken and liked leader.&quot;

No, that would be great.  Unfortunately, we&#039;re stuck with Barack Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes it is embarrassing to have an intelligent and well spoken and liked leader.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, that would be great.  Unfortunately, we&#8217;re stuck with Barack Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Cichawoda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cichawoda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>193. aprilnovember811:
&quot;How come you and others disregard his white half?&quot;

Because his ethnic/racial background does not even come up for consideration - I don&#039;t care.

&quot;He’s an embarassment to this country.&quot;

Yes it is embarrassing to have an intelligent and well spoken and liked leader. I hate it when all that Euro trash says they have a new respect for what America stands for. we should have invaded them and made them eat freedom fries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>193. aprilnovember811:<br />
&#8220;How come you and others disregard his white half?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because his ethnic/racial background does not even come up for consideration &#8211; I don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>&#8220;He’s an embarassment to this country.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes it is embarrassing to have an intelligent and well spoken and liked leader. I hate it when all that Euro trash says they have a new respect for what America stands for. we should have invaded them and made them eat freedom fries.</p>
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		<title>By: Cichawoda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cichawoda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>193. aprilnovember811:
&quot;Racist is the new term for PATRIOT&quot;

Not really, Conservatives always wore it as a badge of honor. But than again Conservatives never were true Patriots. The concept is beyond anybody who can&#039;t think further than they can spit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>193. aprilnovember811:<br />
&#8220;Racist is the new term for PATRIOT&#8221;</p>
<p>Not really, Conservatives always wore it as a badge of honor. But than again Conservatives never were true Patriots. The concept is beyond anybody who can&#8217;t think further than they can spit.</p>
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		<title>By: Cichawoda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cichawoda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>194. Dave Surls:
&quot;old Julius Rosenberg&quot;

Your slip is showing - better fix your dress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>194. Dave Surls:<br />
&#8220;old Julius Rosenberg&#8221;</p>
<p>Your slip is showing &#8211; better fix your dress.</p>
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		<title>By: ShyAsrai</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShyAsrai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t get it, and have stopped trying.  I&#039;m starting to believe that &#039;liberalism IS a mental illness&#039; because:

1)how does insisting on documented birth information qualify as a &#039;conspiracy theory&#039;?

2)why did questions regarding McCain&#039;s eligibility vis a vis birth circumstances/constitutional requirement result in a congressional hearing yet the exact same questions regarding Obama are dismissed as ridiculous?

3)why would Obama spend more than 1 million to keep said documents of birth information hidden?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t get it, and have stopped trying.  I&#8217;m starting to believe that &#8216;liberalism IS a mental illness&#8217; because:</p>
<p>1)how does insisting on documented birth information qualify as a &#8216;conspiracy theory&#8217;?</p>
<p>2)why did questions regarding McCain&#8217;s eligibility vis a vis birth circumstances/constitutional requirement result in a congressional hearing yet the exact same questions regarding Obama are dismissed as ridiculous?</p>
<p>3)why would Obama spend more than 1 million to keep said documents of birth information hidden?</p>
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