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		<title>By: Shooter1001</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/towelhead-and-the-normalization-of-sex-with-children/#comment-118226</link>
		<dc:creator>Shooter1001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first heard the term &#039;gay rights&#039;, I chuckled and thought to myself &#039;That&#039;ll never happen&#039;. From time to time I hear rumblings about rights of varying kinds for pedophiles. 
Lowering the age of consent, gay scout masters and scientific papers indicating the consensual man-boy sexual relationships are not harmful are 2 examples of the &#039;softening up&#039; process of public opinion.

What&#039;s the next right? Bestiality? I&#039;ll go for that! Barney Fwank trying to talk a bear into a BJ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first heard the term &#8216;gay rights&#8217;, I chuckled and thought to myself &#8216;That&#8217;ll never happen&#8217;. From time to time I hear rumblings about rights of varying kinds for pedophiles.<br />
Lowering the age of consent, gay scout masters and scientific papers indicating the consensual man-boy sexual relationships are not harmful are 2 examples of the &#8216;softening up&#8217; process of public opinion.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the next right? Bestiality? I&#8217;ll go for that! Barney Fwank trying to talk a bear into a BJ.</p>
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		<title>By: kyblue</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/towelhead-and-the-normalization-of-sex-with-children/#comment-116533</link>
		<dc:creator>kyblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I haven&#039;t been to a movie in over five years. I won&#039;t give Hollywood my money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I haven&#8217;t been to a movie in over five years. I won&#8217;t give Hollywood my money.</p>
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		<title>By: john parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>john parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Brian in Idaho&#039;s comment:

&quot;I would like an Actor in Hollywood to try a really despicable character, in their eyes. Play a conservative christian in a positive light. Something that is nonexistent in modern movies.&quot;

I just saw the well-made thriller &quot;Trans-Siberian&quot;, which does indeed show a conservative Christian character in a positive light (played by Woody Harrelson, no less - in an ironic return to his wholesome breakout role in &quot;Cheers&quot;, after years of playing deranged, violent psychopaths). You can take this, if you like, as the pendulum turning the other way, although it might also be the exception which proves the rule.

For my part, I am still waiting to see a film where an average suburban teen is embarrassed by, and longs to escape from, the antics of his morally dissolute left-wing parents. Naturally, we&#039;ve all seen thousands of versions of the story where the youth&#039;s mom and dad are repressed, distant conservative religious fanatics who don&#039;t understand their offspring&#039;s nonconformist, creative instincts. I understand why Hollywood types love THAT story so much - after all, for most of them, it&#039;s autobiographical. But if you just ask yourself for one second: why is the repressed-liberal narrative favored by a factor of 1000 to 1 over the repressed-conservative story? Is it because the repressed-liberal version is 1000 times more common IN REALITY? Give me a break. In the real world, I suspect that the true ratio is 50-50 or close to it, and this simple observation shows the Hollywood ideological bias as clearly as anything ever can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Brian in Idaho&#8217;s comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;I would like an Actor in Hollywood to try a really despicable character, in their eyes. Play a conservative christian in a positive light. Something that is nonexistent in modern movies.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just saw the well-made thriller &#8220;Trans-Siberian&#8221;, which does indeed show a conservative Christian character in a positive light (played by Woody Harrelson, no less &#8211; in an ironic return to his wholesome breakout role in &#8220;Cheers&#8221;, after years of playing deranged, violent psychopaths). You can take this, if you like, as the pendulum turning the other way, although it might also be the exception which proves the rule.</p>
<p>For my part, I am still waiting to see a film where an average suburban teen is embarrassed by, and longs to escape from, the antics of his morally dissolute left-wing parents. Naturally, we&#8217;ve all seen thousands of versions of the story where the youth&#8217;s mom and dad are repressed, distant conservative religious fanatics who don&#8217;t understand their offspring&#8217;s nonconformist, creative instincts. I understand why Hollywood types love THAT story so much &#8211; after all, for most of them, it&#8217;s autobiographical. But if you just ask yourself for one second: why is the repressed-liberal narrative favored by a factor of 1000 to 1 over the repressed-conservative story? Is it because the repressed-liberal version is 1000 times more common IN REALITY? Give me a break. In the real world, I suspect that the true ratio is 50-50 or close to it, and this simple observation shows the Hollywood ideological bias as clearly as anything ever can.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/towelhead-and-the-normalization-of-sex-with-children/#comment-116397</link>
		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll pass on that movie, and any others like it. I&#039;m going to see this one instead:
http://www.americancarol.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll pass on that movie, and any others like it. I&#8217;m going to see this one instead:<br />
<a href="http://www.americancarol.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.americancarol.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vast majority of Hollywodd producers, directers and actors, are perverted monsters. Their goal is to &quot;educate&quot; the great unwashed, namely the general public, to accept this perversion as normal, acceptable and desireable. They are pieces of smelly, steaming shit. I truely believe they are subhuman monsters, subsisting on the pain of others, fit to live only in Hollywood or the Castro district of San Fran-sicko.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vast majority of Hollywodd producers, directers and actors, are perverted monsters. Their goal is to &#8220;educate&#8221; the great unwashed, namely the general public, to accept this perversion as normal, acceptable and desireable. They are pieces of smelly, steaming shit. I truely believe they are subhuman monsters, subsisting on the pain of others, fit to live only in Hollywood or the Castro district of San Fran-sicko.</p>
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		<title>By: ThomasP</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThomasP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BVMoon:
&quot;Yes, Thomas, you inability to follow a line of argument and cogent reasoning is quite evident.&quot; 

A line of argument and cogent reasoning is what you call that?  Well, you know what Lincoln said about dogs with 5 legs.  It was not a line of argument and cogent reasoning; it was an attempt to use the Fallacy of Composition to slander the homasekshul movement and allege they have a conspiracy to make us all accept pederasty.

Thomas Jefferson was a slaveholder.  Does that mean anyone who believes in &quot;that which governs least, governs best&quot; wants to be free to own slaves?

I have no idea what you are quoting from in your last post, but why does it have credibility to you?  Or, more importantly, why should it to us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BVMoon:<br />
&#8220;Yes, Thomas, you inability to follow a line of argument and cogent reasoning is quite evident.&#8221; </p>
<p>A line of argument and cogent reasoning is what you call that?  Well, you know what Lincoln said about dogs with 5 legs.  It was not a line of argument and cogent reasoning; it was an attempt to use the Fallacy of Composition to slander the homasekshul movement and allege they have a conspiracy to make us all accept pederasty.</p>
<p>Thomas Jefferson was a slaveholder.  Does that mean anyone who believes in &#8220;that which governs least, governs best&#8221; wants to be free to own slaves?</p>
<p>I have no idea what you are quoting from in your last post, but why does it have credibility to you?  Or, more importantly, why should it to us?</p>
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		<title>By: ThomasP</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThomasP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AndrewJ:
&quot;Thanks for the canned response, ThomasP. Does that mean Ginsberg wasn’t into that? I am a bear of very little brain, y’see, and your logical circomlocutions is a puzzlement to me.&quot;

I have no idea what Ginsberg was into, although I don&#039;t recall him having been convicted of any such thing.  My gut tells me it&#039;s an urban legend, but the real point is that it&#039;s irrelevant.  It&#039;s like saying that the social conservative movement is as flaming and desperate in their water closets as Larry Craig.  It&#039;s like saying that if a racist votes for McCain, anyone who votes for McCain is a racist.  It&#039;s as illogical as claiming that the conservative movement is all about harboring drug addicts because of Limbaugh (brought to you by the makers of Oxycontin -- Oxycontin, for that Megadittoes Rush.)  It&#039;s called the Fallacy of Composition.  Read it, learn it, eschew it, at all costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AndrewJ:<br />
&#8220;Thanks for the canned response, ThomasP. Does that mean Ginsberg wasn’t into that? I am a bear of very little brain, y’see, and your logical circomlocutions is a puzzlement to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no idea what Ginsberg was into, although I don&#8217;t recall him having been convicted of any such thing.  My gut tells me it&#8217;s an urban legend, but the real point is that it&#8217;s irrelevant.  It&#8217;s like saying that the social conservative movement is as flaming and desperate in their water closets as Larry Craig.  It&#8217;s like saying that if a racist votes for McCain, anyone who votes for McCain is a racist.  It&#8217;s as illogical as claiming that the conservative movement is all about harboring drug addicts because of Limbaugh (brought to you by the makers of Oxycontin &#8212; Oxycontin, for that Megadittoes Rush.)  It&#8217;s called the Fallacy of Composition.  Read it, learn it, eschew it, at all costs.</p>
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		<title>By: BVMoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BVMoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt; &quot;I will be forced to mention the (now) well known, but once unknown hidden secret of the largest of the world’s anti-gay organization’s, the Roman Catholic Church.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;(ThomasP)

Yes, Thomas, you inability to follow a line of argument and cogent reasoning is quite evident. Yes, too, the RCC has an inner contradiction - discouraging both heterosexual and homosexual attractions, amongst it&#039;s priests, at least. (My Catholic father had no prob with the hetro part, as myself and all my siblings can attest to.) 

&lt;I&gt;&quot;Gay culture does not grant the pedophile movement general acceptance. It does, however, offer a peripheral credibility to this movement which pedophilia has never been granted in the culture at large. Members of NAMBLA (The North American Man-Boy Love Association) march in some gay pride parades.

The academic Journal of Homosexuality (vol. 20, nos. 1/2, l990) has also explored the issue of &quot;Male Intergenerational Intimacy&quot; in a generally approving manner. (Back issues of this journal can be ordered by calling Haworth Press at 1-800-HAWORTH.)

Discrimination Against a Minority

The vast majority of the articles in &quot;Male Intergenerational Intimacy&quot; argue that pedophilia should be freed from categorization as child abuse. In the foreword, Dr. Gunter Schmidt closes by saying that &quot;Each individual case must be looked upon on its own merits...the threat to make all pedophile acts punishable by law can barely be labeled civilized...it implies discrimination and persecution of a minority and should be abolished.&quot; (p. 4)

Another group of writers (two psychologists and a lawyer--Sandfort, Brongersma, and Naerssen) argue that &quot;the current social climate makes it rather difficult to look at [pedophilic] relationships in an objective way.&quot; (p.5)&quot;&lt;/I&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> &#8220;I will be forced to mention the (now) well known, but once unknown hidden secret of the largest of the world’s anti-gay organization’s, the Roman Catholic Church.&#8221;</i>(ThomasP)</p>
<p>Yes, Thomas, you inability to follow a line of argument and cogent reasoning is quite evident. Yes, too, the RCC has an inner contradiction &#8211; discouraging both heterosexual and homosexual attractions, amongst it&#8217;s priests, at least. (My Catholic father had no prob with the hetro part, as myself and all my siblings can attest to.) </p>
<p><i>&#8220;Gay culture does not grant the pedophile movement general acceptance. It does, however, offer a peripheral credibility to this movement which pedophilia has never been granted in the culture at large. Members of NAMBLA (The North American Man-Boy Love Association) march in some gay pride parades.</p>
<p>The academic Journal of Homosexuality (vol. 20, nos. 1/2, l990) has also explored the issue of &#8220;Male Intergenerational Intimacy&#8221; in a generally approving manner. (Back issues of this journal can be ordered by calling Haworth Press at 1-800-HAWORTH.)</p>
<p>Discrimination Against a Minority</p>
<p>The vast majority of the articles in &#8220;Male Intergenerational Intimacy&#8221; argue that pedophilia should be freed from categorization as child abuse. In the foreword, Dr. Gunter Schmidt closes by saying that &#8220;Each individual case must be looked upon on its own merits&#8230;the threat to make all pedophile acts punishable by law can barely be labeled civilized&#8230;it implies discrimination and persecution of a minority and should be abolished.&#8221; (p. 4)</p>
<p>Another group of writers (two psychologists and a lawyer&#8211;Sandfort, Brongersma, and Naerssen) argue that &#8220;the current social climate makes it rather difficult to look at [pedophilic] relationships in an objective way.&#8221; (p.5)&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: hillbilly mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>hillbilly mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krusty, do movies reflect society or is society shaped by them?
What we are talking about here are trends, how they relate to societal views and what they mean in the long run.
Get off this comment and go watch some detritus...I think that Bill Maher&#039;s cr*p is opening this weekend...sounds like it is right up your alley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krusty, do movies reflect society or is society shaped by them?<br />
What we are talking about here are trends, how they relate to societal views and what they mean in the long run.<br />
Get off this comment and go watch some detritus&#8230;I think that Bill Maher&#8217;s cr*p is opening this weekend&#8230;sounds like it is right up your alley.</p>
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		<title>By: Krusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, from tens of thousands of movies, you isolate 3 to label Hollywood as advancing pedophilia? In a free exchange of ideas you&#039;re going to have detritus. I don&#039;t scream bloody murder because you idiots have a creationist museum. Most media is crap - agreed. Turn it off. It&#039;s that easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, from tens of thousands of movies, you isolate 3 to label Hollywood as advancing pedophilia? In a free exchange of ideas you&#8217;re going to have detritus. I don&#8217;t scream bloody murder because you idiots have a creationist museum. Most media is crap &#8211; agreed. Turn it off. It&#8217;s that easy.</p>
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