To Bomb, or Not to Bomb, Iran
Few in the know doubt the fact that Iran has acquired the knowledge to produce an atomic bomb. Israeli intelligence is far more concerned with Iran’s pace of advancement towards making the bomb than American or European intelligence sources are. The question in Israel is no longer if Israel should eliminate the Iranian threat, but rather when.
The Netanyahu government is skeptical about the Obama administration’s ability to reverse Iran’s quest for a nuclear weapon. And Hillary Clinton’s statement about offering the Arab Gulf states a protective umbrella against an Iranian nuclear threat only intensified the Sunni Arab states’ skepticism over America’s capacity to stop the Iranians. In fact, in the Middle East, the Obama administration appears weak and indecisive and resigned to the reality of a nuclear Iran.
For several years now, a game of mutual intimidation has gone on between Israel and Iran. The Islamic Republic of Iran and its theocratic leadership advertised its successful testing of long-range missiles, while Israel responded with public shows of the long-range refueling capabilities of its aircraft. Iran acquired sophisticated anti-aircraft missiles to defend against aerial attacks and, in 2007, Israel responded with the destruction of the Syrian nuclear facility.
This back and forth “game” is serious. Both sides understand the consequences of a nuclear attack. Former Iranian President Rafsanjani has boasted that an Iranian attack would destroy Israel, and that an Israeli counterattack would create acceptable damage.
Rafsanjani’s point was obvious: Israel’s smallness makes it vulnerable to total destruction, whereas Iran’s huge size could easily overcome an Israeli attack.
The real issue, however, is not rooted solely in the impact of bombing by one side or the other. While an Iranian bombing of Israel might indeed devastate the Jewish state, it would not destroy it. And an Israeli counterpunch could do much greater damage to Iran than anticipated by Rafsanjani.
Let us assume that the Israeli Air Force attacked the nuclear facilities spread throughout Iran and damaged or destroyed its capacity to produce a bomb for at least three to five years. It would certainly give Israel a respite and partial relief to its existential anxieties. What Israel cannot eliminate by attacking the Iranian nuclear facilities, however, is the know-how acquired by Iranian scientists. It would therefore become just a matter of time before the Iranians restore their nuclear capacity.
The consequences of an Israeli attack would doubtless be wide condemnation of the Jewish state in international forums, the UN in particular. More importantly, however, such a strike would solidify the mullahs’ control of Iran by appealing to the patriotism of all Iranians. It would force reformers and democrats who seek change to close ranks with the despised authoritarian regime.
As long as the regime of Ayatollah Khamenei and Ahmadinejad remains intact, bombing and destroying most of Iran’s nuclear facilities would at best only provide temporary relief. The cost of such bombing missions might be too prohibitive. Iran would unleash its dependencies — Syria, Hezbollah, and Hamas — against Israel’s population centers, with much greater damage to Israel’s civilian population than was caused by the Second Lebanon War of 2006.
More wishful thinking. No-one is going to “light the fire” by co-ordinated minority uprisings. The only solution, unpalatable though it may be, is to bomb the nuclear facilities to smithereens, and keep bombing them when they are rebuilt.
That way, no nuclear attacks on Israel, and more significantly, no nukes smuggled into the US or some other western nation by Iran’s terrorist clients.
It’s too late, Iran has nukes and before long they’ll be positioned to deliver them. Currently, Iran cannot use it’s nuclear option, but the “status quo” will continue to facilitate a healthy environment for the development & completion of a ready nuclear arsenal.
1) Why should Israel pull the Iranian chestnuts out of the fire for the rest of the world.
When Israel bombed Saddam’s nuclear facilities almost 30 yrs ago, the world condemned Israel; the US cut off support and aid.
No nation supported Israel’s destruction of the Syrian nuclear facilities.
2) As to deterrence, perhaps Israel threatening to retaliate with Dirty Bombs aimed at the OIL FIELDS would be more effective – Ten or Fifty Thousand years of high level radioactivity. “Bomb Israel, and there would be no more oil for Iran to sell or for the world to buy”. Especially if it were implied that the other Mideast oil fields (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Lybia, etc) are not off the target list.
3) Financing and supporting factions opposed to Iran’s mullahs is a VERY risky business. The tradition of centuries is to abandon alliances on the spur of the moment.
Except for Egypt and Israel, each “country” in the Mideast is not a nation, but only a collection of tribes with a flag. Totally hostile and suspicious of “the others”.
Under Obama the issue of whether the US should bomb Iran is “off the table”. So, Obiwan, Israel is our only hope? If they don’t act, who will we look to? Liechtenstein. Yep, that’ll do.
No chance, Puder. No chance.
Sadly, there isn’t going to be another revolution in Iran any time soon — and there most definitely won’t be if the current regime (which already has the monopoly of violence) gets the bomb and solidifies itself in power.
No, the Israelis must nail the Iranian regime right between the eyes.
UAVs, cruise missiles, suitcase nukes — the lot.
Against Iran’s proxy Hezbollah in 2006, the Israelis followed an anticipated line of approach: for Israel, a rare tactical faux pas.
But they won’t make the same mistake again. Just wait and see.
“Should Israel strike at Iran’s nuclear sites? If so, when?”
Yes. Today.
Imagine the worst case scenario by this action and ask yourself if that is worse than the worst case scenario of not stopping them. Those are the only options because Iran has seen to it that those are the only options.
When should Israel strike Iran?
How about 1979?
This is long overdue.
I do not believe any nation will attack Iran’s nuclear sites.
Iran will get the bomb and use it most likely on a Muslim nation.
The United States under President Obama (PBUH) ain’t gonna do squat.
Obama is insane, he will talk until he eats an Iranian unclear bomb. He has known for a year that Iran had a second undisclosed nuclear facility. Yet he still wanted to talk thinking that he will get bigger sanction against Iran. A ledgen in his insane mind!
I think that the world, Jews, Hindus, Confusians, Shintoists, Yellow Man, White Man, Brown Man, Black Man, should all convert to Islam and then peace will reign across the planet.
I am inclined to agree with a cautious approach by Israel this time. Sure everyone is always ready to let Israel do the heavy lifting. They can do it but the long term consequences carry a price either way.
This cannot happen under the current US leadership. Obama has pulled the rug out from under Israel. If I were them I wouldnt lift a finger right now. US is an ally in name only at this point.
Israel is again alone.
The Israelis have a defensive edge which will last for some time. It has been predicted that in a full-out exchange Israel would survive, Iran would not.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3486011,00.html
Bottom line is the the Iranians will get their nukes because of US idiocy when we had the edge.
That advantage is near gone now. Israel should not sacrifice itself for another 100 year war because of it.
I am confidant that Israel can beat the Iranians in this game. After all, whom is going to drop a big nuke/bio whatever in Jersualem? Friday night would be ideal.
Who has better delivery systems, warheads, anti-missile technology, solid hard-core science, economy independant of natural resources, medical care, civil defense, air force, agriculture… ?
Better peace, yet I dont see that now.
Spindok
I think Israel blew their chance this last week. Achmahomo was in this country, Israeli commandos should have taken him out, and immediatly launched an attack on Iran’s nuke facilities. Strickly speaking I think they f–ked up.
I see Israel vs. Iran as a 21st century sequel of David and Goliath.
If you are David, you will patiently accumulate an inventory fo the giant’s weaknesses, because the small guy can leverage the proclivities of the big one. What is remarkable at this point is how solidly the Israeli electorate is behind their leader. Even the Israeli left supports the historic leader of the Likud party! That’s extraordinary. At the same time, Iran is more fractious than it has been in the last 30 years. The only city in the world where the number of Iranians is greater than it is in Los Angeles is Teheran. If Iran was a vigorous and united society, would such a massive exile have ever happened?
So, any Israeli initiative will seek to exploit the precariousness of the present Iranian regime. The so called “Islamic Republic” (Please explain) of Iran is having its own army-of-Davids and not-so-monolithic-Goliath internal battle. Goliath is more wobbly than ever, and David is more determined than ever. We cannot predict with any precision how the plausible train wreck will unfold, but we can see how top-heavy the house of cards is.
We should remember how the destruction of the Syrian nuclear installation played out, just over a couple of years ago: Israel did not brag, and Syria did not complain, and not much was made of it in the US media. It was not a triumph of supreme international coordination, it was a convergence of interests. (In this sense Syria is smarter than ACORN). In fact, most of us have no recollection of it at all, if they ever heard of it in the first place. Volcanic eruptions are typically preceded by a great many small earthquakes. This article is giving a good inventory of the major fault lines, but who can tell which domino is going to fall first?
I expect that Israel will do all that can be done surreptisciously (probably a lot) before entering the kinetic phase, because the bombing might be avoidable if the less spectacular preambles work well enough. Another element of this game of chicken is that the bombing has a tremendous psychological impact before it is carried out, even if eventually it is not. It may or may not become necessary, but it is clear that Israel is not in the grips of a death wish, at a time when the Iranian regime managed to engineer a self-inflicted slow death it probably did not wish so ardently.
It is a waste of time to talk about attempting to destroy Iranian nuclear sites. The regime that is in power has to be destroyed. If the Persian people cannot overthrow the régime, and it is unlikely that they ever will, in spite of all the hopeful signs at other articles here, then the solution is to nuke Teheran and other cities where command and control centers might be located.
It is time for us in Israel to use the nukes the world has condemned us for having for too long, and it is time to commit mass murder against those who would exterminate us. The world must be made to learn that we are not the ghetto Jews cowering at the feet of the goyim anymore. Those who will exterminate us must learn that they too are mortal, and that we will not flinch from murdering them off and destroying everything they have for generations to come.
The Americans and the British made mass murder a legitimate weapon in World War II – it is time to teach the Americans and the British that we too, can use their weapons, and use them well. And it is time for the Arabs to learn to cower at OUR feet.
HEPT @8
“I do not believe any nation will attack Iran’s nuclear sites.”
As opposed to what we “should” do you are correct. Obama, as you say, won’t do squat. And the world will suffer greatly because of it.
Israel only gets one chance to destroy Iran’s nuclear program. It’s too spread out for a second wave to break through Iranian interceptors. That means that they have to level all the targets completely the first time. That means, they need to use nuclear weapons, and when they do, they must make it clear in no uncertain terms that any retaliation by any Islamic nation will be interpreted as an attack by all Islam, which shall be subject to nuclear retaliation against Mecca.
I believe that the Israelis have already made the decision and will attack within the next six months. The necessary preparations have already commenced and the groundwork laid. So be it. The Western Europeans have been reduced to a vegatating slime mold. The United States is being led by an alien creature who is totally ignorant of the world of men. The Jews are a stiff necked race, but they have survived for more than 5,000 years and have learned a thing or two. Not the effeminate Liberal Jews populating the United States. The real Jews, Sabras raised on the philosophy of Ben Gurion who inhabit Israel. And of course, the mere reality of Jews defending themselves will trigger age old response, the usual wave of Jew-hating reaction. Attention world. You’ve tried your best many times to eradicate us, and failed. Not this time. Some of you might chuckle at the antics of those great thinkers such as Ghadaffi….or the rantings of the Ayatjollah and his stooge, whatshisname. But they are not chuckling in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. Six months and counting. Bank on it.
If it needs to be done and the US does not do it with missiles from far out at sea , and instead lets Israel roast for it , it will be the biggest shameful display of presidential cowardice since all those other rat presidents did coward stuff . BJ ;let Osama go , Jimmy ; keep em they are probably republicans anyway , JFK ;bayof pigs , Truman; chewing Drew Pearsons butt for making fun of Margarets piano playing , FDR blaming Pearl Harbor on the Japanese Americans . (Might as well have anyway)
The “perfect” can be the mortal enemy of the good. Especially if you are an Israeli and the “good” is you being on the receiving end of Holocaust II.
Attacking Iran is a viable option only if you don’t mind a particularly messy form of suicide. If Israel is not destroyed in the counterattack (by the entire Islamic world) they will soon find that in their borders there will be more terrorists than citizens. As for the U.S., a physical attack will be unnecessary. Anybody remember the Arab Oil Embargo from the 70′s?
My friends and I are already placing bets on when Obama will prostrate before the mullahs in Tehran. Odds of him growing a pair are absolutely nil while the odds for Israel taking the wind out of A’jad’s sails are very short. The likelihood that Obama will be bowing to mullahs when the IDF strike, well, we can only dream..
That’s just the way it worked with Germany and Japan in WWII.
LOL on your whole article.
I don’t think the Iranians would need to nuke Israel if they had the weapon and delivery system. How long would you continue to live in Israel knowing that at any moment you and yours could be incinerated if the Iranians chose to do so? I might give serious consideration to moving elsewhere PDQ! Even if Isreal were to retaliate it would be too late for the dead. I’m not confident I could rely on a MAD doctrine in this case.
jwrjr:
“Attacking Iran is a viable option only if you don’t mind a particularly messy form of suicide. If Israel is not destroyed in the counterattack (by the entire Islamic world) they will soon find that in their borders there will be more terrorists than citizens. As for the U.S., a physical attack will be unnecessary. Anybody remember the Arab Oil Embargo from the 70’s?”
Some serious errors in logic there.
First and foremost, if the United Arab world was capable of destroying Israel, they would already have done so. They don’t need a reason, just the capability, which is what they don’t have.
As far as the rest, There is no difference between an Arab terrorist and an Arab citizen. All citizens are terrorists and all terrorists are citizens, so that is a moot point. The distinction between citizen and terrorist is a bit of Islamic propaganda, one that not all Westerners fall for.
Back in ’73 the USA did not have the technology to convert OIL Shale or tar sands into liquid OIL. Today we do. We havn’t done so because it’s expensive and the wacko environmentalists are preventing it. There is no pressing need to do so. I bring this up because the USA has about 80 times as much OIL as the entire Middle East in the form of OIL Shale. Most of the OIL America imports comes from Canada, Mexico and South America. It would hurt the ME more then it would hurt the USA if they did an OIL embargo. The Saudi’s know that, as do the Iraqi’s.
The new findss off the coast of Brazil are liquid and might turn out to be bigger then the Persian gulf fields. So an OIL embargo is an empty threat as is overrunning Israel.
The Islamic terrorism campaign is already running at full speed. It just isn’t doing very well because the West is inventing ways to defeat terrorism.
You muslims are between a rock and a hard spot. That is why the mullahs want nukes. Nukes won’t get them where they want to go, but that is a different topic.
The Israeli’s cannot afford to allow Iran to complete its development of nuclear weaponry. To do that would be to commit suicide. Better to go out fighting than allow your enemy the means to destroy you.
It wouldn’t have been necessary if you Yanks had understood you were electing a Marxist anti-Israel stooge in Obama, but you’ve gone and done it now and Israel can be under no misconceptions that the US is about to hang it out to dry.
Israel will bomb Iran. Your President Pantywaist Obama has left it with no choice.
There are many amongst the US’s strongest allies and cultural cousins (Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Britain) who are becoming increasingly concerned with your President’s selling out of traditional western values of freedom and democracy.
James from OZ
Jwrjr, I’m shaking in my boots. Bring on that oil embargo of yours. It’ll just set off the final confrontation with the group that we true Americans believe to be the real infidels: Liberals. As Americans begin to realize that THEY have been the ones in the way of our gaining energy independence (among other things) all along.
This is for all those who think that a nuclear exchange between Israel and Iran is imminent. It isn’t. The Iranians have the missiles. I do not believe they have the warheads yet.
I’ve pointed out my own preferences earlier (comment 14) – an Israeli pre-emptive nuclear strike on Tehran and Qom to take out the Iranian leadership – both secular and religious. But I do not believe that will occur.
I do believe that Israel’s cowardly régime will find itself forced to attack Iran’s nuclear bases and production facilities. The gutless scum in Washington certainly won’t. The Israeli air force may or may not have to fight the Americans over Iraq, but I have faith that our air force will succeed – to a degree, and that most of the Iranian targets will indeed be hit.
Then the Arab retaliation will begin. The missiles and rockets will come from Lebanon and Syria – literally as the Bible says, “the evil will come from the north” – to rain hell on Israel’s main cities.
Thousands will die. But thousands will not.
And those who do not will start killing every Arab they see, weaned finally from the illusory dreams of peace pushed by what is jokingly called “the peace camp” in this country. In other words, there will be an awful bloodbath in Israel, and the Arabs will discover what happens when disciplined Israelis finally lose it and start acting out their righteous anger against savage animals. The Arabs will first fight, but then they will flee like rats and run, and they will be chased and shot down like dogs. Arab blood will run in the streets of Israel, and Jews will rinse their feet in the blood of Arabs and in the blood of vengeance, venting an anger that has been 14 centuries in the making.
That is what faces the Arabs in Haifa, Akko, Jaffa, in the Galilee, the Negev, and the center of the country. Only the Cherkess (Circassians) in Abu Ghosh and the Druze in the north may escape the general extermination of Arabs that furious Israelis will engage in.
There will be terrible fighting in Gaza. Gaza will be destroyed, and become a desolation, so will Ashdod and Ashkelon. Thousands of Arabs will be slaughtered. Will enough of our air force survive to destroy Damascus to turn it into rubble? Will Tyre be destroyed in bombing raids? I don’t know. But I’m willing to bet that this will happen, and that foreign powers will start to intervene (remember that German-controlled, European fleet off Lebanon?).
In short, an Israeli raid on Iran will provoke a general regional war that will escalate and draw ambitious foreign powers like jackals to the feed – including the idiot in the White House.
Does this sound like the Book of Ezekiel? Yes, it should. Does this sound like the last few verses of the Song of Witness in Deuteronomy? Yes, it should. But there is a lot more in Prophecy, and the Americans and Europeans will most assuredly not escape unharmed from the harm they seek to bring upon us in Israel.
Those who curse Israel will be cursed. Those who bless Israel will be blessed. Go and read the news and see who will be cursed….
Enjoy!
In the meantime, I’m going to eat with my family, and then fast – and pray that G-d spares me and mine to see another year in health and relative prosperity, and allows us to see the beginning of the Full Redemption of our People.
I wish my fellow Jews who indeed love G-d and His Law an easy fast, and a healthy and sweet 5770; may they live to see the Redemption and see the day when peace finally reigns in our Land and when the G-d’s House of Splendor is finally begun.
Hey, howza bout we put together a crack team of black ops commandos – cybergeezer, billslayer, athinkgperson, reconusmc, venividivici, chuck pelto, aureliano – and you guys can just head right on over there and take care of business. After all, you each possess self-proclaimed smarts, argumentation skills, passion, knowledge of history, insight into our forefathers, and have the common good at heart . . . .still, something’s missing . . . what is it . . . it was missing from Cheney when he got those five deferments . . . and from Rush conjured up that butt pimple deferment . . . when Hannity unvolnteered to be waterboarded for charity . . . from W . . . from Wolfowitz . . . what is that word . . . COURAGE! That’s it. So, as soon as you find that missing ingredient, you can all look at each other and say, “It’s a go! Take em down!” Meanwhile, rachel peepers will start preparing a victory party for when you return.
God speed, Christian solders. We’re proud of you. Now watch this drive.
Wow….Interesting set of comments so far.
I find it very disturbing that the Obama Admin knew about this “new” nuclear facility for months, and said nothing about it. The Admin could have still maintained it’s present policy of diplomacy anyway. Instead, we see how clumsily the issue was handled, in Pittsburgh and not the UN? Iran leaks the story out and the Obama Admin acts nonchalantly about it.
My guess is, in Obama’s mind, Iran’s actions are a result of Bush’s War. In other words, Iran could have been a more reasonable nation to deal with – with Saddam still in power, and our current policy must be to talk down Iran. The “Blame America First” group is always in a perpetual state of reaction and never proactive, never. They do not have the mind for it.
The truth is that Iran and NoK are acting in unison. NoK lofts missile tests over Japan, undoubtedly continuing it’s education in nuclear technology, and the USA does nothing – minus sending ex-presidents to rescue “environmental journalists”. Iran builds nuke plants, conducts missile tests, exports terrorism, courts influence with Chavez in the Western Hemisphere, and the USA again, does nothing…..And don’t forget about the Afghani Backdrop, and NATO’s European Membership’s obvious unwillingness to dedicate itself to the battle.
Russia is playing the the middle, selling influence to one side, nuclear technology and missile technology to the other, and slowly seeking to expand influence in Georgia, Ukraine, and giving a little chuckle to the Poles and Czechs. Collecting from the USA while providing NOTHING in return. China will sit this one out as well, and wait to see which side it will sell dog leather jackets too.
nq
28. Now and Then: –
Don’t worry. Men better than yourself will insure all of our freedoms and future…..
DE OPPRESSO LIBER…..
Ruvy (27) Writ; And those who do not will start killing every Arab they see, weaned finally from the illusory dreams of peace pushed by what is jokingly called “the peace camp” in this country. In other words, there will be an awful bloodbath in Israel, and the Arabs will discover what happens when disciplined Israelis finally lose it and start acting out their righteous anger against savage animals. The Arabs will first fight, but then they will flee like rats and run, and they will be chased and shot down like dogs. Arab blood will run in the streets of Israel, and Jews will rinse their feet in the blood of Arabs and in the blood of vengeance, venting an anger that has been 14 centuries in the making.
That is what faces the Arabs in Haifa, Akko, Jaffa, in the Galilee, the Negev, and the center of the country. Only the Cherkess (Circassians) in Abu Ghosh and the Druze in the north may escape the general extermination of Arabs that furious Israelis will engage in.”
Nice, on Kol Nidrie night.
Visions of slaughter. This is not what our religion teaches.
Tonight we look inside ourselves.
Tomorrow we face destiny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mgaICZS79Y
Spindok
What the author alludes to, is that there are many different ways to achieve the destabilistion of the Iranian regime, and potentially many allies. In the war with Iraq during the ’80s, the media showed an image of Iranian solidarity but it was not quite true. If Israel wanted to play real dirty there is an almost infinite number of plots that might topple the clerics. E.g. Nerve/anthrax/whatever gas attack on Iranian parliament/military command. Sabotage of many flammable oil facilites simultaneously. Virus to destroy livestock/poultry/humans. Destruction of water storages, etc, etc. If Ahmadjinedad & Co rant about exterminating Israelies then at some point Netanyahu might sensibly see actions like these “doomsday” tactics sensible. But, it would not be in his interest to be seen to initiate it. However, if Kurds, Baluchis, etc., are willing to wield the weapons then there is plausible deniability, and it is proably in Israels’ interest for it to spread as it might force the UN to do something useful. I wonder how unhappy though the Turkish military would be to see squadrons of Israeli warplanes flying north to the Adana area and then East to Qom. They probably have more to lose from a nuclear Iran than most other countries. No doubt the population of Egypt vastly exceeds Israel but does anyone have any idea of the practicality of a nuclear armed cruise missile being able to “take-out” the Aswan high dam, and the down stream effects of such a single explosion? For 30 years the members of the Security Council have allowed Iran to behave as a rogue nation and a pawn in their puerile gamesmanship.
If you or I sauntered into a bank, carrying a shot gun and made threats we would pay a big price. Stop giving a free pass to national leaders who make threats to disturb the peace. Let us just treat the threat as an act of war and crush them straight away before it festers.
28. Now and Then:
I’ve seen more intelligence and oratory skills in the average cow pie!
Sorry, Spindok,
I call things as I see them. And my comment is written, not out of hate, but with honesty and with truth – and with regret. I do not seek to see such a massacre.
But, Spindok, I outlined my solution, one I do not think will occur and I outlined the nightmare I think will occur. I do not bury my head in the sand, and I realize full well what can happen here, and how bad it can be.
Reality, like Divine Judgment, can be very very scary. Prophecy, as revealed in the Tana”kh, is definitely very scary
#10, you are there, escape velocity, jettison the booster.
#16: What interceptor force are you referring to? Sure can’t be iran, they haven’t got one, just a bunch of wore out stuff that has a tendency to fall out of the air due to incompetence, both in the cockpit and ground maintenance on the aircraft.
iran is long on talk, and short on ability, though they don’t seem to mind dying. I go with Ruvy, nuke them until they glow in the dark and save a few for any other country that objects to strenuously.
33. Cybergeezer:
I think we’ve identified part of your problem – you hear cow pies talking to you. Tell me, do they have an Alaskan accent?
Ok. Bomb. Bomb early. Bomb often.
When it looks like the regime has been returned to a level of technology more fitting to it’s world view, then air drop shovels to help them move the sand.
“Now and Then”: Troll. buffoon. a person of no consequence outside of his morally relativistic, narcissistic, self referential bubble. A legally adult male still living in his divorced mommy’s basement, for free. A person without a sense of humor or irony.
After writing that about the troll/bot, I will have to wash my hands and then enjoy watching it sputter and spew all by itself.
The general theme running through these posts supports a conclusion I have already reached. The Islamists have convinced me that they will never quit, they will never change their minds, they will never accept the right to exist of any culture other than theirs.
Therefore, this is a fight to the death and ultimate elimination of their culture, or ours. I choose that their culture should be the one that goes extinct.
I don’t believe we can negotiate with them, reason with them or “make a deal” with them. It is sad and unfortunate, because the only way I can see of ridding ourselves of this threat to our culture is to annihilate the “carriers” of this disease (Islam).
I don’t think we should make the decision lightly, but I believe they have made it clear that we are going to have to make the decision soon. That decision is to kill 99.99% of all the Muslims on the planed, and re-educate the rest.
Does anybody have a better idea?
Before we clean up the pox on the houses of Iran, North Korea and Syria, we really should seriously think about cleaning up the pox on our own house first.
Wouldn’t it just be the berries if, instead of the brown eyed handsome man sitting in the oval office, the U.S. had someone like Mr. Netanyahu calling the shots? I mean, he has the courage and moral fortitude to make every savage nation in the world shake in their boots.
Instead we have Pee Wee. Big talk, little bitty cajones.
Barack Obama, with his snappy little salute; who is he really? He’s the mouse that roars. Representing America at the UN? No. Demonstrating how weak and wobbly a little man can be.
Barack, honey, surely this is evident to someone as well schooled as yourself. You, baby, are in way over your head.
Resign as fast as your little legs can carry you. Run, grab a pen, find the correct papers to sign and do so with haste.
Joe Biden may be somewhat of a dolt, but at least he has a modicum of common sense.
Look, my little man, if this was TV, you could call on Dennis Haybert or Jack Bauer to get your tight ass out of the wringer.
But this is real life.
You’ve screwed up everything you’ve touched. And now within weeks or months, you’re setting the stage to put us all through a nuclear showdown. All I ever wanted were front row tickets for a Yankee game. Not for a nuclear showdown.
A nuclear Iran. A defiant Israel. A fleet of Russian vultures circling overhead. I’d rather see re-runs of “Golden Girls”.
Barack buddy, not even a liar as skilled as yourself can unravel the mess you’ve gotten us in.
Hitler, and I’m not comparing you to a mad man or a mass killer (except for your slaughter of the unborn), but you’re no Hitler.
You’re simply the wrong man at the wrong time in the wrong place. You have a nice progressive wife and two beautiful children.
This just isn’t the job for you.
President Barack Obama, I speak for thinking men and women the world over when I say,
“Barack, you’re fired”.
Israel has been carrying the ball vis a vis Islam for over 60 years.The Western powers are in for a total shock if they think Iran will stop at bombing Israel. Iran fashions itself a great empire after the likes of Xerxes and will stop at nothing to achieve their’greatness’. This includes China and Russia,those SOBs who support Iran.
40. rachel poxers:
How many of them brave freedom fighters who took to the streets of Iran are you willing to kill to bomb Iran? Anybody?
“the mess you’ve (Obama) gotten us in.” Here’s a clue: Iran didn’t develop nuclear capability in 8 months.
42. Now and Then:
Your momma is going to activate the parent controls on you any minute now; You’d better get back to your hot chocolate and comic books.
43. Cybergeezer:
How many, cybergeezer? How many?