Comments on: Three More Reasons to Reject the NIE on Iran http://pjmedia.com/blog/three_more_reasons_to_reject_t/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:13:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ira Zad http://pjmedia.com/blog/three_more_reasons_to_reject_t/#comment-18326 Ira Zad Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:37:43 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/three-more-reasons-to-reject-the-nie-on-iran/#comment-18326 Well, the NIE is just another sign of the forces of Iran-appeasement taken over the US policy. Condi, Gates, Admiral Fallon, the whole of state department, liberal Dems, all backed by Iran operatives in US media like Trita Parsi, Ray Takyeh, Vali Nasr, etc. They are all collectively staging a COUP against Bush on Iran. And Bush himself has given in to Condi and state department's Iran-appeasing policy. What's more, there are rumblings of a DEAL made with the Iranian regime: Iraq peace in return for US leaving the regime alone on nuclear issue, regime change, etc. It seems to be working. Iraq is quieter now, and US released more Iranian prisoners in Iraq today (See <a href="http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-12-19-voa26.cfm)." rel="nofollow">http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-12-19-voa26.cfm).</a> Also, Bush praised Russian nuclear fuel shipment to Iran last week. Add the Dovish statements coming out of US officials on Iran. And it all points to a White House/State Department/Iran Regime deal. Meanwhile, not a BEEP from VP Cheney who has been dealt a major blow on Iran. This is a big blow for secular democracy in Iran and its supporters. So much for Bush's "Axis of Evil". It turned out more like the "Axis of Leeway." There is no hope for Bush et al. to do anything of value against the Iranian regime for the remainder of their stay. If we get lucky, we will have a Giuliani/McCain ticket (or vice versa) sweep into power in 2009 who will surely not be coy against the despotic Theocracy in Tehran. Otherwise, Hussein Obama or Chelsea's Mama, will both throw the baby with the bath water on Iran for sure. Read my Iran Blog: <a href="http://mor2com.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mor2com.blogspot.com/</a> Well, the NIE is just another sign of the forces of Iran-appeasement taken over the US policy. Condi, Gates, Admiral Fallon, the whole of state department, liberal Dems, all backed by Iran operatives in US media like Trita Parsi, Ray Takyeh, Vali Nasr, etc.

They are all collectively staging a COUP against Bush on Iran. And Bush himself has given in to Condi and state department’s Iran-appeasing policy.

What’s more, there are rumblings of a DEAL made with the Iranian regime: Iraq peace in return for US leaving the regime alone on nuclear issue, regime change, etc.
It seems to be working. Iraq is quieter now, and US released more Iranian prisoners in Iraq today (See http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-12-19-voa26.cfm).

Also, Bush praised Russian nuclear fuel shipment to Iran last week. Add the Dovish statements coming out of US officials on Iran. And it all points to a White House/State Department/Iran Regime deal.

Meanwhile, not a BEEP from VP Cheney who has been dealt a major blow on Iran.

This is a big blow for secular democracy in Iran and its supporters. So much for Bush’s “Axis of Evil”. It turned out more like the “Axis of Leeway.”

There is no hope for Bush et al. to do anything of value against the Iranian regime for the remainder of their stay.

If we get lucky, we will have a Giuliani/McCain ticket (or vice versa) sweep into power in 2009 who will surely not be coy against the despotic Theocracy in Tehran.

Otherwise, Hussein Obama or Chelsea’s Mama, will both throw the baby with the bath water on Iran for sure.

Read my Iran Blog: http://mor2com.blogspot.com/

]]> By: augurwell http://pjmedia.com/blog/three_more_reasons_to_reject_t/#comment-18325 augurwell Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:04:58 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/three-more-reasons-to-reject-the-nie-on-iran/#comment-18325 What does French Intelligence say? Russia offered all the peaceful nuclear fule needed. What do you think a Neocon stands for? Think about what is being said. What does French Intelligence say?

Russia offered all the peaceful nuclear fule needed.

What do you think a Neocon stands for?

Think about what is being said.

]]> By: Vigilant http://pjmedia.com/blog/three_more_reasons_to_reject_t/#comment-18324 Vigilant Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:19:24 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/three-more-reasons-to-reject-the-nie-on-iran/#comment-18324 Oh those silly Iranian kooks... they don't really mean it when they say "Death to America" or Israel will be "wiped from the map." Why should we take them at their word. Roll over and go back to bed... well get them back after they set off that nuclear greeting in a town near you. Neville C. Oh those silly Iranian kooks… they don’t really mean it when they say “Death to America” or Israel will be “wiped from the map.” Why should we take them at their word. Roll over and go back to bed… well get them back after they set off that nuclear greeting in a town near you.

Neville C.

]]> By: Hashem http://pjmedia.com/blog/three_more_reasons_to_reject_t/#comment-18323 Hashem Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:10:27 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/three-more-reasons-to-reject-the-nie-on-iran/#comment-18323 What About the Missile Program? Err, since when did missile development become a felony! With all the rhetoric coming out of the US the Iranians would probably impeach their president if he did halt the missile program. Did We Forget About Arak? "... isotopes are readily available from commercial sources" Well wheat and beef are also available from commercial sources. Does that mean that they should put an end to their agriculture sector too? How Did We Get it Right-and Everyone Else Get it Wrong? If the report had turned out differently it would have been a sin to question the validity of the assessment of our brave and hard working intelligent officers. The Brits were wrong about WMDs in Iraq too, anyways. What About the Missile Program?
Err, since when did missile development become a felony! With all the rhetoric coming out of the US the Iranians would probably impeach their president if he did halt the missile program.

Did We Forget About Arak?
“… isotopes are readily available from commercial sources”
Well wheat and beef are also available from commercial sources. Does that mean that they should put an end to their agriculture sector too?

How Did We Get it Right-and Everyone Else Get it Wrong?
If the report had turned out differently it would have been a sin to question the validity of the assessment of our brave and hard working intelligent officers.
The Brits were wrong about WMDs in Iraq too, anyways.

]]> By: Jack http://pjmedia.com/blog/three_more_reasons_to_reject_t/#comment-18322 Jack Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:05:30 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/three-more-reasons-to-reject-the-nie-on-iran/#comment-18322 What About the Missile Program? Err, since when did missile development become a felony! With all the rhetoric coming out of the US the Iranians would probably impeach their president if he did halt the missile program. Did We Forget About Arak? "... isotopes are readily available from commercial sources" Well wheat and beef are also available from commercial sources. Does that mean that they should put an end to their agriculture sector too? How Did We Get it Right-and Everyone Else Get it Wrong? If the report had turned out differently it would have been a sin to question the validity of the assessment of our brave and hard working intelligent officers. The Brits were wrong about WMDs in Iraq too, anyways. What About the Missile Program?
Err, since when did missile development become a felony! With all the rhetoric coming out of the US the Iranians would probably impeach their president if he did halt the missile program.

Did We Forget About Arak?
“… isotopes are readily available from commercial sources”
Well wheat and beef are also available from commercial sources. Does that mean that they should put an end to their agriculture sector too?

How Did We Get it Right-and Everyone Else Get it Wrong?
If the report had turned out differently it would have been a sin to question the validity of the assessment of our brave and hard working intelligent officers.
The Brits were wrong about WMDs in Iraq too, anyways.

]]> By: Andrew http://pjmedia.com/blog/three_more_reasons_to_reject_t/#comment-18321 Andrew Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:35:55 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/three-more-reasons-to-reject-the-nie-on-iran/#comment-18321 I have read posts by this author before and have been to his website he is a neocon in the truest sense. And I would go further to say that 95 percent of intelligent people now understand that the ideas of neocons have proven to be illegitimate. I have read posts by this author before and have been to his website he is a neocon in the truest sense. And I would go further to say that 95 percent of intelligent people now understand that the ideas of neocons have proven to be illegitimate.

]]> By: OmegaPaladin http://pjmedia.com/blog/three_more_reasons_to_reject_t/#comment-18320 OmegaPaladin Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:04:24 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/three-more-reasons-to-reject-the-nie-on-iran/#comment-18320 Hooman, I don't think the average Iranian is stupid or insane. Perhaps ignorant or affected by propaganda, but there seems to be a lot of disgust with the current regime. Ahmadinejad really really does seem to be loose cannon, and I don't doubt that there are nuts in Iran willing to start armageddon, even without government approval. We also don't want Iran to dominate the region. They are our enemy, remember? Hooman,

I don’t think the average Iranian is stupid or insane. Perhaps ignorant or affected by propaganda, but there seems to be a lot of disgust with the current regime. Ahmadinejad really really does seem to be loose cannon, and I don’t doubt that there are nuts in Iran willing to start armageddon, even without government approval.

We also don’t want Iran to dominate the region. They are our enemy, remember?

]]> By: Chip http://pjmedia.com/blog/three_more_reasons_to_reject_t/#comment-18319 Chip Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:48:28 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/three-more-reasons-to-reject-the-nie-on-iran/#comment-18319 Andrew, The article (try reading it) doesn't advocate any military anything. But your knee jerk to "neocon" and defending the ayatollahs of Iran is what we all expect from the zombified Left. Andrew,

The article (try reading it) doesn’t advocate any military anything. But your knee jerk to “neocon” and defending the ayatollahs of Iran is what we all expect from the zombified Left.

]]> By: Andrew http://pjmedia.com/blog/three_more_reasons_to_reject_t/#comment-18318 Andrew Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:55:29 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/three-more-reasons-to-reject-the-nie-on-iran/#comment-18318 This author is clearly a neocon in the sense of the definition used by Norman Podhoretz in his book World War IV. This author is clearly a neocon in the sense of the definition used by Norman Podhoretz in his book World War IV.

]]> By: Hooman http://pjmedia.com/blog/three_more_reasons_to_reject_t/#comment-18317 Hooman Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:51:31 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/three-more-reasons-to-reject-the-nie-on-iran/#comment-18317 Can you please stop this? Please? If Iran were to ever use a nuke against anyone, the country WOULD BE TURNED INTO GLASS!!!! Do you really think destroying 7000 years of continuous history is worth a patch of worthless land at the edge of the Mediterranean? Do you really think that the Iranians are that stupid? By talking a lot of none-sense against Israel, Iran is trying to win the "Arab street". I will bet anyone money that Monkey Boy in Iran is more beloved than any "moderate" Arab leader, even though he is Persian. The ramifications of getting the Arabs on Iran's side tilts the balance of power towards Iran from a political perspective. Soft power at its best. Frankly, after being bludgeoned by Saddam for 8 years while the entire world backed the dictator (which involved chemical warfare against Iranian troops and civilians by the way), can you blame Iran for wanting a robust defensive capability (i.e. the missiles you've brought up here)? Believe it or not, the term "Never Again" also has great significance in Tehran. Can you please stop this? Please? If Iran were to ever use a nuke against anyone, the country WOULD BE TURNED INTO GLASS!!!! Do you really think destroying 7000 years of continuous history is worth a patch of worthless land at the edge of the Mediterranean? Do you really think that the Iranians are that stupid?

By talking a lot of none-sense against Israel, Iran is trying to win the “Arab street”. I will bet anyone money that Monkey Boy in Iran is more beloved than any “moderate” Arab leader, even though he is Persian. The ramifications of getting the Arabs on Iran’s side tilts the balance of power towards Iran from a political perspective. Soft power at its best.

Frankly, after being bludgeoned by Saddam for 8 years while the entire world backed the dictator (which involved chemical warfare against Iranian troops and civilians by the way), can you blame Iran for wanting a robust defensive capability (i.e. the missiles you’ve brought up here)? Believe it or not, the term “Never Again” also has great significance in Tehran.

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