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		<title>By: Chris Nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I hope those of you planning to boycott Norwegian goods are prepared to go without your pickled herring...

More seriously though, as a Norwegian and an alumni (MSc, engineering) of NTNU, I can only shake my head, as I have done so many times before.  Like almost any western university, the non-science/engineering parts of the university are overrun with the usual crowd of leftists.

While I have firsthand experience of the futility of fighting these things in Norway (the media makes the NYT look neutral), I have called my alma mater to complain, as well as tried to organise alumni to protest the decision.  Unfortunately, few Norwegians care sufficiently about almost anything (except more &quot;freebies&quot; from the government) to protest anything, and social-democratic indoctrination is so strong that even most conservatives are social democrats light, incapable of freeing themselves from the world-view created by a 70 years of collusion between the social democratic labour party (dominant since WWII) and the media.

I can only end by hoping the intervals between international displays of Norwegian stupidity will increase in the future.  Knowing my country, I dare not hope for more.

-Chris

PS: Norwegian prosperity is the result of a combination of surprisingly pro-business laws for an overtaxed semi-socialist country, oil, luck, hard work, and a (formerly) uniform population.  Google “Dan Mitchell Nordic model” for a decent, though somewhat flawed explanation.  Expensive social democracy is NOT a recipe for prosperity.

PPS: Norwegians used to be a nation of strong, independent minded, hard-working people who preferred to be left alone.  Now we are a nation of people who cry for government to fix our every problem (and with a bloated government that gladly steps in to do so, then screws up, thereby creating new problems, which invariably lead to calls for more government to fix the problems created by government...).  Please don’t let this happen to the US as well.  The rest of us need somewhere to escape to when our own governments have grown too large and intrusive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I hope those of you planning to boycott Norwegian goods are prepared to go without your pickled herring&#8230;</p>
<p>More seriously though, as a Norwegian and an alumni (MSc, engineering) of NTNU, I can only shake my head, as I have done so many times before.  Like almost any western university, the non-science/engineering parts of the university are overrun with the usual crowd of leftists.</p>
<p>While I have firsthand experience of the futility of fighting these things in Norway (the media makes the NYT look neutral), I have called my alma mater to complain, as well as tried to organise alumni to protest the decision.  Unfortunately, few Norwegians care sufficiently about almost anything (except more &#8220;freebies&#8221; from the government) to protest anything, and social-democratic indoctrination is so strong that even most conservatives are social democrats light, incapable of freeing themselves from the world-view created by a 70 years of collusion between the social democratic labour party (dominant since WWII) and the media.</p>
<p>I can only end by hoping the intervals between international displays of Norwegian stupidity will increase in the future.  Knowing my country, I dare not hope for more.</p>
<p>-Chris</p>
<p>PS: Norwegian prosperity is the result of a combination of surprisingly pro-business laws for an overtaxed semi-socialist country, oil, luck, hard work, and a (formerly) uniform population.  Google “Dan Mitchell Nordic model” for a decent, though somewhat flawed explanation.  Expensive social democracy is NOT a recipe for prosperity.</p>
<p>PPS: Norwegians used to be a nation of strong, independent minded, hard-working people who preferred to be left alone.  Now we are a nation of people who cry for government to fix our every problem (and with a bloated government that gladly steps in to do so, then screws up, thereby creating new problems, which invariably lead to calls for more government to fix the problems created by government&#8230;).  Please don’t let this happen to the US as well.  The rest of us need somewhere to escape to when our own governments have grown too large and intrusive.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norway is a perfectly wonderful nation...except for the weather.

They have the same problem every western nation has in regards to what this thread is about:  unbelievably stupid college students (which is fine...they&#039;re supposed to be stupid), and nitwit left wing politicians, which isn&#039;t fine, but they&#039;re like flies...you&#039;ll never totally get rid of them, so they&#039;re just a little inconvenience of life, that you have to learn to live with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norway is a perfectly wonderful nation&#8230;except for the weather.</p>
<p>They have the same problem every western nation has in regards to what this thread is about:  unbelievably stupid college students (which is fine&#8230;they&#8217;re supposed to be stupid), and nitwit left wing politicians, which isn&#8217;t fine, but they&#8217;re like flies&#8230;you&#8217;ll never totally get rid of them, so they&#8217;re just a little inconvenience of life, that you have to learn to live with.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read a few absurd comments in my life,  but for this bozo to make the following statement takes the cake. 
 
&quot;While Israel, whose science and academic research is far superior to that of Norway, can live very well without the Norwegian academic institutions, the hypocrisy tinged with anti-Semitism makes the decision to boycott Israel most disturbing.&quot;
 
FAR SUPERIOR TO THAT OF NORWAY, give me a break, talk about total ignorance.  Although the education system in Norway may not be that of MIT standards,  they are not far behind.  Just take a quick look at the following link.  http://www.ntnu.no/aboutntnu
 
Please also go to their &quot;news&quot; link on the same website for further details about the Jew comments.
 
Just because President Obama gets the Nobel PP is no reason for such misrepresentation of the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read a few absurd comments in my life,  but for this bozo to make the following statement takes the cake. </p>
<p>&#8220;While Israel, whose science and academic research is far superior to that of Norway, can live very well without the Norwegian academic institutions, the hypocrisy tinged with anti-Semitism makes the decision to boycott Israel most disturbing.&#8221;</p>
<p>FAR SUPERIOR TO THAT OF NORWAY, give me a break, talk about total ignorance.  Although the education system in Norway may not be that of MIT standards,  they are not far behind.  Just take a quick look at the following link.  <a href="http://www.ntnu.no/aboutntnu" rel="nofollow">http://www.ntnu.no/aboutntnu</a></p>
<p>Please also go to their &#8220;news&#8221; link on the same website for further details about the Jew comments.</p>
<p>Just because President Obama gets the Nobel PP is no reason for such misrepresentation of the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Norwegian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norwegian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Norway, war criminals and traitors like Vidkun Quisling are sentenced to death. In the U.S. they get their own television show on the elephant graveyard known as Fox News Channel. What&#039;s it called again? Treason Stories with Oliver North? Traitor&#039;s Corner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Norway, war criminals and traitors like Vidkun Quisling are sentenced to death. In the U.S. they get their own television show on the elephant graveyard known as Fox News Channel. What&#8217;s it called again? Treason Stories with Oliver North? Traitor&#8217;s Corner?</p>
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		<title>By: eon</title>
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		<dc:creator>eon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24 frossca

Yes, old Vidkun would be preening right now, because once more a small splinter group of self-centered pseudo-intellectuals has both sullied Norway&#039;s name and led its government down the path to trouble.

 Quisling and his minions were members of Norway&#039;s legislature who came from the university faculty crowd, i.e. the self-styled &quot;intellectuals&quot; (much like this lot). They signed on with the Nazis even before the invasion in 1940 in much the same way that Sir Oswald Mosley&#039;s Blackshirts did in England. After the Nazi conquest, they ran the country for Hitler &amp; Co., until it was liberated by the Allies, in the process raising one of only a few &quot;ethnic&quot; (i.e., non-German) divisions of the Waffen SS, SS Freiwilling Division &quot;Wiking&quot;, part of which fought on the Eastern Front. The rest of it helped their local version of the Gestapo keep the rest of the Norwegians under control- by the most brutal methods they could think of. (The local Resistance gave them exactly what they deserved in return- with interest.)

 After the war, at their trials for war crimes (mostly those committed against their fellow Norwegians), Quisling &amp; Co.&#039;s &quot;justification&quot; was simple, and cynical. They believed that the Nazis were destined to win, so they decided to side with them on the grounds that &quot;to the victor belong the spoils&quot;, and because (being intellectual types) they resented the fact that up to then, no one in Norway had been a big enough fool to give them a majority in the government so they could remake the country into their idea of a Utopia. Since they couldn&#039;t attain power the legal way, they decided to grab it by force by riding the Wehrmacht&#039;s coattails. Also, as the author states, they had the now all-too-familiar hatred of Jews that seems endemic amongst European pseudo-intellectuals, no matter what country they are actually from.

 My guess is that once more, what we are seeing is a group of self-styled elitists trying to ingratiate themselves with the group they see as the likely winners; in this case, the Islamists. The majority of Norwegians probably don&#039;t agree with them (in fact, the majority of Norwegians probably don&#039;t even think much about the MidEast, having more important things on their mind like North Sea oil resources, etc.), but that won&#039;t stop the &quot;intellectuals&quot; who have control of the megaphone from shouting their latest &quot;inspiration&quot; from the rooftops to convince everybody else - and themselves- that they are far more important than they really are.

 The more things change, the more they stay the same.

clear ether

eon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24 frossca</p>
<p>Yes, old Vidkun would be preening right now, because once more a small splinter group of self-centered pseudo-intellectuals has both sullied Norway&#8217;s name and led its government down the path to trouble.</p>
<p> Quisling and his minions were members of Norway&#8217;s legislature who came from the university faculty crowd, i.e. the self-styled &#8220;intellectuals&#8221; (much like this lot). They signed on with the Nazis even before the invasion in 1940 in much the same way that Sir Oswald Mosley&#8217;s Blackshirts did in England. After the Nazi conquest, they ran the country for Hitler &amp; Co., until it was liberated by the Allies, in the process raising one of only a few &#8220;ethnic&#8221; (i.e., non-German) divisions of the Waffen SS, SS Freiwilling Division &#8220;Wiking&#8221;, part of which fought on the Eastern Front. The rest of it helped their local version of the Gestapo keep the rest of the Norwegians under control- by the most brutal methods they could think of. (The local Resistance gave them exactly what they deserved in return- with interest.)</p>
<p> After the war, at their trials for war crimes (mostly those committed against their fellow Norwegians), Quisling &amp; Co.&#8217;s &#8220;justification&#8221; was simple, and cynical. They believed that the Nazis were destined to win, so they decided to side with them on the grounds that &#8220;to the victor belong the spoils&#8221;, and because (being intellectual types) they resented the fact that up to then, no one in Norway had been a big enough fool to give them a majority in the government so they could remake the country into their idea of a Utopia. Since they couldn&#8217;t attain power the legal way, they decided to grab it by force by riding the Wehrmacht&#8217;s coattails. Also, as the author states, they had the now all-too-familiar hatred of Jews that seems endemic amongst European pseudo-intellectuals, no matter what country they are actually from.</p>
<p> My guess is that once more, what we are seeing is a group of self-styled elitists trying to ingratiate themselves with the group they see as the likely winners; in this case, the Islamists. The majority of Norwegians probably don&#8217;t agree with them (in fact, the majority of Norwegians probably don&#8217;t even think much about the MidEast, having more important things on their mind like North Sea oil resources, etc.), but that won&#8217;t stop the &#8220;intellectuals&#8221; who have control of the megaphone from shouting their latest &#8220;inspiration&#8221; from the rooftops to convince everybody else &#8211; and themselves- that they are far more important than they really are.</p>
<p> The more things change, the more they stay the same.</p>
<p>clear ether</p>
<p>eon</p>
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		<title>By: westerncanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>westerncanadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Board of NTNU decided today, Thursday, to reject the proposal for a boycott of Israel. The decision was unanimous and in accordance with the Rector&#039;s recommendation. See here for the full statement:

http://www.ntnu.no/news/NTNU-says-no-to-Israel-boycott?utm_source=BUYcott+Israel+List&amp;utm_campaign=82575c3f11-Buycott_Norway_success_091113&amp;utm_medium=email</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Board of NTNU decided today, Thursday, to reject the proposal for a boycott of Israel. The decision was unanimous and in accordance with the Rector&#8217;s recommendation. See here for the full statement:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ntnu.no/news/NTNU-says-no-to-Israel-boycott?utm_source=BUYcott+Israel+List&#038;utm_campaign=82575c3f11-Buycott_Norway_success_091113&#038;utm_medium=email" rel="nofollow">http://www.ntnu.no/news/NTNU-says-no-to-Israel-boycott?utm_source=BUYcott+Israel+List&#038;utm_campaign=82575c3f11-Buycott_Norway_success_091113&#038;utm_medium=email</a></p>
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		<title>By: kochevnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>kochevnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exploding Muslim populations will drive political movements to disfavor Israel.  Muslim-Israeli violence will escalate into full-blown warfare.  When the Jewish resistance is vanquished, staged events by intelligence will turn Western opinion against Islam and lead toward the second phase of WWIII.  Islamic nations will be conquered due to nefarious Jesuit skulduggery and SS plants at all social levels.  Finally, all remaining heretics will be interned and immolated.  All must convert to catholicism or be exterminated.  The power of the Vatican will return to Solomon&#039;s temple after it is rebuilt.  Catholicism will be the one world religion in the new world order.

Were Zionists not shills for the Jesuits, they would benefit from immediately pointing their nukes at the Vatican, then employ Mossad to uproot Jesuit Nazis from other historic hotbeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exploding Muslim populations will drive political movements to disfavor Israel.  Muslim-Israeli violence will escalate into full-blown warfare.  When the Jewish resistance is vanquished, staged events by intelligence will turn Western opinion against Islam and lead toward the second phase of WWIII.  Islamic nations will be conquered due to nefarious Jesuit skulduggery and SS plants at all social levels.  Finally, all remaining heretics will be interned and immolated.  All must convert to catholicism or be exterminated.  The power of the Vatican will return to Solomon&#8217;s temple after it is rebuilt.  Catholicism will be the one world religion in the new world order.</p>
<p>Were Zionists not shills for the Jesuits, they would benefit from immediately pointing their nukes at the Vatican, then employ Mossad to uproot Jesuit Nazis from other historic hotbeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I know this is all wishful thinking&quot;

You&#039;re right.  Because people like me don&#039;t want peace, we want the destruction of Fatah, Hamas, Hezbollah and Judeo-Christian rule over Judeo-Christian lands.

After 1400 years of Muslim agression, conquest, theft, rape and murder, there&#039;ll be peace on the same basis peace finally came to Spain...with the destruction of any and all Muslim political entities, and, if necessary the expulsion of the Muslim population.

http://avpv.tripod.com/AmericanVictims.html

Peace with the Pals?

Forget about it.

No peace while they exist.  When the Pals have been destroyed as a political unit and driven back to Arabia (just like the Brits were driven out of India or the Japanese out of Formosa), then there will be peace.

But, people who like to dream about peace with the Muslim invaders should feel free to have their little dreams.  They&#039;re not going to come true...but, hey, have fun dreaming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know this is all wishful thinking&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right.  Because people like me don&#8217;t want peace, we want the destruction of Fatah, Hamas, Hezbollah and Judeo-Christian rule over Judeo-Christian lands.</p>
<p>After 1400 years of Muslim agression, conquest, theft, rape and murder, there&#8217;ll be peace on the same basis peace finally came to Spain&#8230;with the destruction of any and all Muslim political entities, and, if necessary the expulsion of the Muslim population.</p>
<p><a href="http://avpv.tripod.com/AmericanVictims.html" rel="nofollow">http://avpv.tripod.com/AmericanVictims.html</a></p>
<p>Peace with the Pals?</p>
<p>Forget about it.</p>
<p>No peace while they exist.  When the Pals have been destroyed as a political unit and driven back to Arabia (just like the Brits were driven out of India or the Japanese out of Formosa), then there will be peace.</p>
<p>But, people who like to dream about peace with the Muslim invaders should feel free to have their little dreams.  They&#8217;re not going to come true&#8230;but, hey, have fun dreaming.</p>
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		<title>By: frossca</title>
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		<dc:creator>frossca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vidkun Quisling would be so proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vidkun Quisling would be so proud.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Actually, “Palestinian” means ‘Philistine’&quot;

Not now it doesn&#039;t.

Just like liberal doesn&#039;t mean liberal anymore, now it means totalitarian left wing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually, “Palestinian” means ‘Philistine’&#8221;</p>
<p>Not now it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Just like liberal doesn&#8217;t mean liberal anymore, now it means totalitarian left wing.</p>
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