This Again? A Norwegian University Threatens a Boycott of Israel
The best way to describe the proposed boycott of Israeli academic and research institutions by the Norwegian University of Science and Technology at Trondheim is to label it “outrageous.” While Israel, whose science and academic research is far superior to that of Norway, can live very well without the Norwegian academic institutions, the hypocrisy tinged with anti-Semitism makes the decision to boycott Israel most disturbing.
The boycott, replete with perversions of basic historical facts and Middle East realities, could lead one to consider that the Palestinian Authority rather than native Norwegians had a hand in its drafting. But then again, Norway gave the world “Quisling,” a name which has become synonymous with the word traitor. (Vidkun Quisling headed the Nazi puppet regime installed by the Germans during WWII). Betrayal of the truth and perversion of reality has emanated from Norway before.
The petition issued by the university staff declares:
Since 1948 the State of Israel has occupied Palestinian land and denied the Palestinians basic human rights. In December/January this year, Israel made a brutal attack on Gaza, resulting in immense human suffering. People all over the world were shocked by the attack, and it led to fierce protests. In addition to brutal military assaults Israel has during many years systematically expelled Palestinian inhabitants from Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza by the extension of settlements in occupied areas, building a wall, and constructing a road system to which Palestinians are denied access.
In 1948, Israel’s declaration of independence was followed by an attack on the nascent state by the armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia, with Arab-Palestinians actively involved in the fighting against the Jews. Six months earlier, on November 29, 1947, the Arabs of Palestine rejected the UN partition plan to create a Jewish state and a sovereign Palestinian state. The Jews of Palestine accepted the partition in spite of the significant reduction of the land promised to them for the reestablishment of their Jewish homeland under the Balfour Declaration and according to the internationally approved British mandate. The Arabs wanted the elimination of the Jewish state and possession of all of Palestine — or nothing — and have repeatedly rejected peace overtures with Israel since then. In the aftermath of the war, Jordan occupied the West Bank (land allotted to the Arabs of Palestine under the rejected UN partition plan), and Egypt occupied Gaza (land also allotted to the Arabs of Palestine).
Israel did not therefore “occupy Arab lands since 1948.” Rather, the so-called “Arab lands” were occupied by Jordan and Egypt.
In 1967, Egypt closed the Straits of Tiran and the Suez Canal to Israeli ships in contravention of international law. This casus belli effectively choked Israel’s trade with Africa and Asia. Jordan’s failed attempts to further cripple Israel led to Israel’s liberation of Jerusalem’s Old City and the West Bank. Israel overcame her enemies and the UN followed up with Resolution 242, which called for “territories for peace.” The wording carefully avoided an obligation by Israel to return “all” the territories, and called for an exchange of territories only within the framework of a real peace. Israel would eventually end territorial disputes with Egypt (for a cold peace) and Jordan (with a warmer peace).
Sorry, you can’t demonize Norwegians because of the questionable behavior of students at one, not so well known university. If you were consistent, you’d have to conclude that the US is very left leaning politically given similar protests at some of its finest universities. Actually, Norway is rated, consistently, as one of the best countries in which to live. The US never comes even close on such ratings; typically rated 13th – 28th
At least some Norwegians have the balls to publish offensive Mohammed cartoons that invariably cause Muslims to go Muslim, usually killing other Muslims in a rage due to the absence of readily available infidels to kill. In that sense, it’s probably as wash. Even some American criminologists think fort hood was not terrorism, but just another example of workplace violence where going Muslim is like going postal over a perceived social injustice. You see, John Wilkes Booth was just having a bad acting day at Ford’s theatre, Lincoln was just at the wrong place at the wrong time, and the murder had nothing to do with southern slavery and the south loosing the war. Of course, the Norwegians have the Nobel Prize Committee too, without which the first black president wouldn’t have gotten a peace prize for doing nothing, yet.
Two things. First, Norway is in need of a preparatory regime, because it is frankly part of the problem, instead of part of the future.
Second, the relevance of Norway to what is going on
is along the same lines as one snow flake in a blizzard. This will change when Norway demonstrates that it can govern itself.
“The US never comes even close on such ratings”
Yeah… but whose ratings? Think about it: such “studies” are always entirely the result of the authors’ subjectivity. We’ve seen these things for decades, and they are designed from the start to enshrine Scandinavian Socialism as “best.” The funniest ones were the old UNESCO reports from the 70s that used pre-tax income- and then added in government transfer payments!
Back on topic: Norway has the world’s largest and most active SS veterans’ organization. It’s no wonder they love their fellow Jew-killers.
All of the Scandinavian countries have been invaded by all these Muslims from the Middle East. My little town in Sweden now is full of trash and these people have come to abuse our beautiful country and the system. Muslims should go back where they came from and stop pretending to be Westeners when they never are going to be!
I always find the lack of factual history to be found in much of the jew hating anti-Israeli ranting to be perplexing. Is it ignorance or willful omission?
That’s it! I’m boycotting all things Norwegian,…………Somebody tell me, just what the hell that would be. Reindeer jerky, maybe?
“Since 1948 the State of Israel has occupied Palestinian land…”
Wrong, as usual.
since 638 A.D. Arabic speaking Muslim colonislists and imperialists have been occupying the Judeo-Christian land of Israel.
It’s our land, not theirs. Always has been. Always will be.
No such thing as Palestine. No such thing as Palestinians. Palestinian means “Arabic Muslim, foreign invader, colonialist and imperialist”…and that’s all it means.
Why would anyone expect anything else? Europe is wracked with white, Western guilt exponentially greater than that of the American Left. Their guilt has opened their borders wide open to the 3rd world, especially to violent Muslim immigrants who OPENLY declare that their goal is the Islamization of Europe. Anti-semitism is how Europeans suck up to their new Islamic masters.
“For ethnic Dutch it’s a frankly shocking opinion, but pastor H.G. Koekkoek dares to say it: we should not be surprised if within 25 years sharia, Islamic law, will be introduced in the Netherlands.
Within 25 years Islamists are expected to be in the majority in the Netherlands. And whoever is in the majority, has the power, also in a democracy,” he says. “Introducing sharia everywhere is a goal of Islam. What remains to the Christians is submitting to Islam or persecution.”
Norway, Sweden, France are all in the same Islamic boat as the Netherlands.
#1 Albert: Say what? How is a rating of how nice it is to live in a country connected to anti-semitism? However jolly it may be to live in Norway, it does have a sketchy track record on anti-semitism.
Of course so do many other countries, that are not jolly to live in. Can’t see the connection between the jolliness scale and feelings against Jews.
Liberal fascism, alive and well in Norway, France, Sweden, the Netherlands, etc., requires “diversity” be accepted unquestioningly by the proletariat. It results, eventually, in a totalitarian state. Norway seems to be rolling along this path quite rapidly.
BTW, if the poster at the lead of the article is supposed to represent Quisling, why is the flag from Denmark and not Norway?
5. Blanca:
“… My little town in Sweden now is full of trash and these people have come to abuse our beautiful country and the system…”
I sympathize Blanca, they have not only come to abuse your little town, they have already raped most of Europe.
“Since 1948 the State of Israel has occupied Palestinian land and denied the Palestinians basic human rights. In December/January this year, Israel made a brutal attack on Gaza, resulting in immense human suffering. People all over the world were shocked by the attack, and it led to fierce protests. In addition to brutal military assaults Israel has during many years systematically expelled Palestinian inhabitants from Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza by the extension of settlements in occupied areas, building a wall, and constructing a road system to which Palestinians are denied access.”
This paragraph just shows how deep the Left Wing PC MC Islamophile propaganda and lies have permeated in to the Left Wing run SOCIALIST Universities all over the West. This nonsense and blatant lies have been spewed out in our SOCIALIST dominated Universities since the 1960′s. Is it any wonder todays Politicians are the pathetic Islamophile moral equivalencers that they are.
“Since 1948 the State of Israel has occupied Palestinian land and denied the Palestinians basic human rights. In December/January this year, Israel made a brutal attack on Gaza, resulting in immense human suffering. People all over the world were shocked by the attack, and it led to fierce protests. In addition to brutal military assaults Israel has during many years systematically expelled Palestinian inhabitants from Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza by the extension of settlements in occupied areas, building a wall, and constructing a road system to which Palestinians are denied access.”
This paragraph just shows how far the Left Wing PC MC Islamophile propaganda and lies have permeated in to the Left Wing deeply SOCIALIST Universities all over the West. This nonsense and blatant lies have been spewed out in our SOCIALIST dominated Universities since the 1960′s. Is it any wonder todays Politicians are the pathetic Islamophile moral equivalencers that they are.
“Norway, Sweden, France are all in the same Islamic boat as the Netherlands.”
I beg to differ, write UK instead of France, and I might agree with you
I havent even read it all. But this sounds much of a joke. All I did was speak my mind, and what if a did shed tears while composing it…? and what if I might just be passionate about this country and this world, and spirituality, my relationship with g-d. I think it will be a very cold day in this country… I never once proclaimed knowledge only disposed words containing them. I feel proud of what I was able to wake up if anything, and I feel there was nothing un-authentic about it, frankly.
This if anything, was pure, un-adulterated, American free speech… baby.
How did we get here? Initially, I don’t think Israel was so hated by the left. The change happened in the Sixties when the “Palestinians” somehow got leftists to see that they were victims of Israeli “oppression.” At that time, not many leftists knew much about the Middle East, and so this was pretty easy.
We now know a lot more. We know about Darfur (which has virtually disappeared as a leftist cause). We know about the Copts. We know about Christians, who have basically been hounded out of Lebanon. And other things.
There is no problem of Israeli oppression. Instead, there is a Middle East minority problem. The majority consists of Arab Sunni Muslims, and those who aren’t part of this majority often have problems. Some, like the Turks and the Persians, have had their own countries for a long time, but they too have problems with minorities in their countries. Others (like the Copts) don’t get to have their own country and so live a precarious existence.
And then there’s Israel. The Jews have only recently managed to get their own country, and of course the majority in the Middle East is outraged by this. Think of them as blacks in the Old South who somehow managed to get control of a bit of territory there. Such a territory would no doubt experience lots of problems simply trying to survive. Imagine further that the majority whites began talking about all their attempts to survive as “oppressing” the nearby whites, and the analogy is complete.
Well, fact of the matter is I shack up with Egypt now that Cairo has a resource this last 2 years, and there is no such restriction of any said anything, as Israel is always a guest, and not with own residence for all but 2. And further Israel was violated in a trust leading to rocky going while repairs to infrastructure were made. But never restrictive in any such way, while disagreements of course abounded, as such claims are facinating. Yey Israel did inadvertently de-stabilize Egypts gate while not being responsible focusing on boarding invader and this is cause of set contention between the states. lest the judge simply inquire as to cairos, as it is shameful incident and the tribe doth protest so. Yet silliness froths the suez.
are gnomes norwegian???? are norwegians gnomes??? I dont know, but the skull capacity of gnomes would account for this nonsense. Boycott ideas, just dangerous. what will the israelis do without norwegian research dollars!!!!!
Marie-Claude, are not the banlieus no-go zones for the police, where the government’s writ no longer runs?
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“Palestinian means “Arabic Muslim, foreign invader, colonialist and imperialist””
Actually, “Palestinian” means ‘Philistine’- a branch of the Indo-European ‘Sea Peoples’, possibly related to the Achaean Greeks…. which has been extinct for the last 2500 years.
My grandparents spent a lot of time in the Arab Middle East back in the 50′s and 60′s, so I grew up pretty much pro Arab. However, as an adult and a Christian, I look at the issue from a moral perspective and find the Israelies mostly in the right.
I don’t understand the historic animosity toward the Jews.
I also look at the old maps of Palestine and realise that most of old Palestine is now Jordan. How come people aren’t demanding that Jordan surrender territory to form a Palestinian state? I think that shows the hypocrisy of it all.
As a result, I am both pro-Israel… and pro-Arab. My pro-Arab side wishes the Arabs would grow up and accept the Jews. Think of the advancements and gains they would make. Israel is a formidable enemy… but they would be a far more formidable friend. Given the opportunity to share, Israel would build a prosperous Palestine.
Even if Israel was not inclined to do so, the world would demand it if the Palestinians laid down their arms and sued for peace. Once the Palestinians proved their peaceful intentions over time, even their most unrealistic requests of today would be possible… and that includes their capitol being Jerusalem. After all, who could object to a friend sharing with you?
I know this is all wishful thinking, but it is the Palestinians who are blocking Middle-East peace… not the Israelis.
The Israelis have everything to gain from peace in the Middle-East.
“Actually, “Palestinian” means ‘Philistine’”
Not now it doesn’t.
Just like liberal doesn’t mean liberal anymore, now it means totalitarian left wing.
Vidkun Quisling would be so proud.
“I know this is all wishful thinking”
You’re right. Because people like me don’t want peace, we want the destruction of Fatah, Hamas, Hezbollah and Judeo-Christian rule over Judeo-Christian lands.
After 1400 years of Muslim agression, conquest, theft, rape and murder, there’ll be peace on the same basis peace finally came to Spain…with the destruction of any and all Muslim political entities, and, if necessary the expulsion of the Muslim population.
http://avpv.tripod.com/AmericanVictims.html
Peace with the Pals?
Forget about it.
No peace while they exist. When the Pals have been destroyed as a political unit and driven back to Arabia (just like the Brits were driven out of India or the Japanese out of Formosa), then there will be peace.
But, people who like to dream about peace with the Muslim invaders should feel free to have their little dreams. They’re not going to come true…but, hey, have fun dreaming.
Exploding Muslim populations will drive political movements to disfavor Israel. Muslim-Israeli violence will escalate into full-blown warfare. When the Jewish resistance is vanquished, staged events by intelligence will turn Western opinion against Islam and lead toward the second phase of WWIII. Islamic nations will be conquered due to nefarious Jesuit skulduggery and SS plants at all social levels. Finally, all remaining heretics will be interned and immolated. All must convert to catholicism or be exterminated. The power of the Vatican will return to Solomon’s temple after it is rebuilt. Catholicism will be the one world religion in the new world order.
Were Zionists not shills for the Jesuits, they would benefit from immediately pointing their nukes at the Vatican, then employ Mossad to uproot Jesuit Nazis from other historic hotbeds.
The Board of NTNU decided today, Thursday, to reject the proposal for a boycott of Israel. The decision was unanimous and in accordance with the Rector’s recommendation. See here for the full statement:
http://www.ntnu.no/news/NTNU-says-no-to-Israel-boycott?utm_source=BUYcott+Israel+List&utm_campaign=82575c3f11-Buycott_Norway_success_091113&utm_medium=email
#24 frossca
Yes, old Vidkun would be preening right now, because once more a small splinter group of self-centered pseudo-intellectuals has both sullied Norway’s name and led its government down the path to trouble.
Quisling and his minions were members of Norway’s legislature who came from the university faculty crowd, i.e. the self-styled “intellectuals” (much like this lot). They signed on with the Nazis even before the invasion in 1940 in much the same way that Sir Oswald Mosley’s Blackshirts did in England. After the Nazi conquest, they ran the country for Hitler & Co., until it was liberated by the Allies, in the process raising one of only a few “ethnic” (i.e., non-German) divisions of the Waffen SS, SS Freiwilling Division “Wiking”, part of which fought on the Eastern Front. The rest of it helped their local version of the Gestapo keep the rest of the Norwegians under control- by the most brutal methods they could think of. (The local Resistance gave them exactly what they deserved in return- with interest.)
After the war, at their trials for war crimes (mostly those committed against their fellow Norwegians), Quisling & Co.’s “justification” was simple, and cynical. They believed that the Nazis were destined to win, so they decided to side with them on the grounds that “to the victor belong the spoils”, and because (being intellectual types) they resented the fact that up to then, no one in Norway had been a big enough fool to give them a majority in the government so they could remake the country into their idea of a Utopia. Since they couldn’t attain power the legal way, they decided to grab it by force by riding the Wehrmacht’s coattails. Also, as the author states, they had the now all-too-familiar hatred of Jews that seems endemic amongst European pseudo-intellectuals, no matter what country they are actually from.
My guess is that once more, what we are seeing is a group of self-styled elitists trying to ingratiate themselves with the group they see as the likely winners; in this case, the Islamists. The majority of Norwegians probably don’t agree with them (in fact, the majority of Norwegians probably don’t even think much about the MidEast, having more important things on their mind like North Sea oil resources, etc.), but that won’t stop the “intellectuals” who have control of the megaphone from shouting their latest “inspiration” from the rooftops to convince everybody else – and themselves- that they are far more important than they really are.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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In Norway, war criminals and traitors like Vidkun Quisling are sentenced to death. In the U.S. they get their own television show on the elephant graveyard known as Fox News Channel. What’s it called again? Treason Stories with Oliver North? Traitor’s Corner?
I have read a few absurd comments in my life, but for this bozo to make the following statement takes the cake.
“While Israel, whose science and academic research is far superior to that of Norway, can live very well without the Norwegian academic institutions, the hypocrisy tinged with anti-Semitism makes the decision to boycott Israel most disturbing.”
FAR SUPERIOR TO THAT OF NORWAY, give me a break, talk about total ignorance. Although the education system in Norway may not be that of MIT standards, they are not far behind. Just take a quick look at the following link. http://www.ntnu.no/aboutntnu
Please also go to their “news” link on the same website for further details about the Jew comments.
Just because President Obama gets the Nobel PP is no reason for such misrepresentation of the facts.
Norway is a perfectly wonderful nation…except for the weather.
They have the same problem every western nation has in regards to what this thread is about: unbelievably stupid college students (which is fine…they’re supposed to be stupid), and nitwit left wing politicians, which isn’t fine, but they’re like flies…you’ll never totally get rid of them, so they’re just a little inconvenience of life, that you have to learn to live with.
Well, I hope those of you planning to boycott Norwegian goods are prepared to go without your pickled herring…
More seriously though, as a Norwegian and an alumni (MSc, engineering) of NTNU, I can only shake my head, as I have done so many times before. Like almost any western university, the non-science/engineering parts of the university are overrun with the usual crowd of leftists.
While I have firsthand experience of the futility of fighting these things in Norway (the media makes the NYT look neutral), I have called my alma mater to complain, as well as tried to organise alumni to protest the decision. Unfortunately, few Norwegians care sufficiently about almost anything (except more “freebies” from the government) to protest anything, and social-democratic indoctrination is so strong that even most conservatives are social democrats light, incapable of freeing themselves from the world-view created by a 70 years of collusion between the social democratic labour party (dominant since WWII) and the media.
I can only end by hoping the intervals between international displays of Norwegian stupidity will increase in the future. Knowing my country, I dare not hope for more.
-Chris
PS: Norwegian prosperity is the result of a combination of surprisingly pro-business laws for an overtaxed semi-socialist country, oil, luck, hard work, and a (formerly) uniform population. Google “Dan Mitchell Nordic model” for a decent, though somewhat flawed explanation. Expensive social democracy is NOT a recipe for prosperity.
PPS: Norwegians used to be a nation of strong, independent minded, hard-working people who preferred to be left alone. Now we are a nation of people who cry for government to fix our every problem (and with a bloated government that gladly steps in to do so, then screws up, thereby creating new problems, which invariably lead to calls for more government to fix the problems created by government…). Please don’t let this happen to the US as well. The rest of us need somewhere to escape to when our own governments have grown too large and intrusive.