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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: All
RE: Wishful Thinking, Anyone?

&quot;Don’t make me put one of these hot-load thoughts in your head.&quot; -- one on her own

I think that statement would qualify.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: All<br />
RE: Wishful Thinking, Anyone?</p>
<p>&#8220;Don’t make me put one of these hot-load thoughts in your head.&#8221; &#8212; one on her own</p>
<p>I think that statement would qualify.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />
[The Truth will out....]</p>
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		<title>By: one of my own</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/thirteen-dead-in-binghamton-massacre/#comment-237214</link>
		<dc:creator>one of my own</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>19. Jeff Weimer: . . . 16. Donna V.: . . . That’s alright, I demolished Steve P a while ago on another thread:  He didn’t respond to my rebuttal (he left that to others like “one of our own” - I cleaned his clock, too.

Odd, Senor Weiner, but I don&#039;t remember that. Refresh my feeble ticker, will you? Perhaps &quot;the cleaner&quot; was one of your tepid anachronisms from the soon-to-be-risen Republican Messiah, Emmanuel Reagan. Or maybe one of Newt&#039;s 7,500 lists to Restore America that he&#039;s offered over the past 11 days. Honestly, my clock is as dirty as ever. I&#039;m afraid you&#039;re mistaking me with donttreadonme . . . or is it the other way around?

Knock, knock . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>19. Jeff Weimer: . . . 16. Donna V.: . . . That’s alright, I demolished Steve P a while ago on another thread:  He didn’t respond to my rebuttal (he left that to others like “one of our own” &#8211; I cleaned his clock, too.</p>
<p>Odd, Senor Weiner, but I don&#8217;t remember that. Refresh my feeble ticker, will you? Perhaps &#8220;the cleaner&#8221; was one of your tepid anachronisms from the soon-to-be-risen Republican Messiah, Emmanuel Reagan. Or maybe one of Newt&#8217;s 7,500 lists to Restore America that he&#8217;s offered over the past 11 days. Honestly, my clock is as dirty as ever. I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;re mistaking me with donttreadonme . . . or is it the other way around?</p>
<p>Knock, knock . . .</p>
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		<title>By: one of my own</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/thirteen-dead-in-binghamton-massacre/#comment-237205</link>
		<dc:creator>one of my own</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GUNS FOR EVERYBODY . . . I&#039;m so saddened and shocked . . . WHY DO YOU THINK WE&#039;RE BUYING UP ALL THE AMMO, LIBTARD? . . . . My hearts and prayers are with the families . . . IF YOU THINK WE&#039;RE JUST GOING TO SIT AROUND AND TAKE THIS, YOU&#039;RE CRAZY . . . It&#039;s a tragedy when some lone nut job goes off on his own like this . . . THE TIME FOR REVOLUTION IS NOW . . . Just think of the children left behind . . . I PREFER WADCUTTERS TO FULL METAL JACKS CUZ THEY&#039;RE CHEAPER AND THEY STILL KILL . . . If only all the victims would have had guns, then nobody would have died . . . I&#039;LL BE PACKIN AT THE TEA PARTY, HOW BOUT YOU?

Now, put down the facts, and step away from the responsibility. That&#039;s right. Nice and easy. I&#039;d hate to see you or your partners there have to deal with reality instead of these Palladin fantasies and GI Joe circle jerks that take up so much of your time. That&#039;s right, just walk away quiet like. Don&#039;t make me put one of these hot-load thoughts in your head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GUNS FOR EVERYBODY . . . I&#8217;m so saddened and shocked . . . WHY DO YOU THINK WE&#8217;RE BUYING UP ALL THE AMMO, LIBTARD? . . . . My hearts and prayers are with the families . . . IF YOU THINK WE&#8217;RE JUST GOING TO SIT AROUND AND TAKE THIS, YOU&#8217;RE CRAZY . . . It&#8217;s a tragedy when some lone nut job goes off on his own like this . . . THE TIME FOR REVOLUTION IS NOW . . . Just think of the children left behind . . . I PREFER WADCUTTERS TO FULL METAL JACKS CUZ THEY&#8217;RE CHEAPER AND THEY STILL KILL . . . If only all the victims would have had guns, then nobody would have died . . . I&#8217;LL BE PACKIN AT THE TEA PARTY, HOW BOUT YOU?</p>
<p>Now, put down the facts, and step away from the responsibility. That&#8217;s right. Nice and easy. I&#8217;d hate to see you or your partners there have to deal with reality instead of these Palladin fantasies and GI Joe circle jerks that take up so much of your time. That&#8217;s right, just walk away quiet like. Don&#8217;t make me put one of these hot-load thoughts in your head.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/thirteen-dead-in-binghamton-massacre/#comment-236639</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: All
RE: Additionally

&lt;a href=&quot;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YzVmOTEzZDhlNzYyY2Y1OWVkODE4MzRkNjk0Mjc0YmE=&quot; title=&quot;More on the Binghamton Massacre&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;HERE&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is some additional insight into the results of the Binghamton police department&#039;s slow response.

I find the report of the &#039;medical examiner&#039; rather interesting.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;“Nobody could have been saved, even if the police had walked in the door that first minute,” said Broome County District Attorney Gerald Mollen.  He based his statement on reports from medical examiners that described the victims’ injuries as so severe that none could have been saved even if they had received prompt medical care.&lt;/i&gt; -- Jack Dunphy&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have to wonder....

....were all the fatalities head-shots or one-through-the-heart? 

I wonder how good a shot the perp was in the first place. And I wonder if we&#039;ll see the autopsies of the victims to know if he was THAT good a shot. Especially as the latter victims would have been running around in panic, i.e., moving targets.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Once the shooting starts, you&#039;re either a combatant or a pop-up target.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: All<br />
RE: Additionally</p>
<p><a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YzVmOTEzZDhlNzYyY2Y1OWVkODE4MzRkNjk0Mjc0YmE=" title="More on the Binghamton Massacre" rel="nofollow"><b>HERE</b></a> is some additional insight into the results of the Binghamton police department&#8217;s slow response.</p>
<p>I find the report of the &#8216;medical examiner&#8217; rather interesting.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>“Nobody could have been saved, even if the police had walked in the door that first minute,” said Broome County District Attorney Gerald Mollen.  He based his statement on reports from medical examiners that described the victims’ injuries as so severe that none could have been saved even if they had received prompt medical care.</i> &#8212; Jack Dunphy</p></blockquote>
<p>I have to wonder&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;.were all the fatalities head-shots or one-through-the-heart? </p>
<p>I wonder how good a shot the perp was in the first place. And I wonder if we&#8217;ll see the autopsies of the victims to know if he was THAT good a shot. Especially as the latter victims would have been running around in panic, i.e., moving targets.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />
[Once the shooting starts, you're either a combatant or a pop-up target.]</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/thirteen-dead-in-binghamton-massacre/#comment-235871</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. Yeah....

....here&#039;s a &#039;killer&#039; quote about what vivo proposes....

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.&lt;/b&gt; -- Thomas Jefferson&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. Yeah&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;.here&#8217;s a &#8216;killer&#8217; quote about what vivo proposes&#8230;.</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.</b> &#8212; Thomas Jefferson</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/thirteen-dead-in-binghamton-massacre/#comment-235864</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: vivo
RE: The Problem Then Becomes....

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Would this had happened with knives, 4×4’s, other close-range weapons? Probably, but it’s a hell of a lot easier to shoot at a distance. Feeble minds know that.&lt;/i&gt; -- vivo&lt;/blockquote&gt;

....that after all the &#039;law abiding&#039; sheep give up their weapons, the not-so-feeble minds who retained theirs can prey upon the unarmed at will.

See what&#039;s happening in England of late?

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Stupid people never plan farther ahead than their limited imagination will allow.]

P.S. And that is usually until they reach some silly point in their reasoning that looks good to them.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: vivo<br />
RE: The Problem Then Becomes&#8230;.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Would this had happened with knives, 4×4’s, other close-range weapons? Probably, but it’s a hell of a lot easier to shoot at a distance. Feeble minds know that.</i> &#8212; vivo</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;.that after all the &#8216;law abiding&#8217; sheep give up their weapons, the not-so-feeble minds who retained theirs can prey upon the unarmed at will.</p>
<p>See what&#8217;s happening in England of late?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />
[Stupid people never plan farther ahead than their limited imagination will allow.]</p>
<p>P.S. And that is usually until they reach some silly point in their reasoning that looks good to them&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/thirteen-dead-in-binghamton-massacre/#comment-235859</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: All
RE: Too Late the Hero

So, according to today&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090406/D97CL1C80.html&quot; title=&quot;Binghamton officials defend response to massacre&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;report&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, the [To Serve and To Protect] police of Binghamton served themselves and protected their own a--, having arrived at the scene of the on-going massacre THREE minutes AFTER the 911 call was received. And then WAITED for &lt;b&gt;43 MINUTES&lt;/b&gt; before entering the &#039;fray&#039;.

The result being 13 dead.

Thanks a LOT a--holes!

On the other hand, the North Carolina nursing home incident some days before had a courageous officer who recognized his duty and his oath and engaged as reported &lt;a href=&quot;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWQ4NDA3ZWMxZGMxMGJjOGQxMzU2NDFkYjIyOGFmMjk=&quot; title=&quot;RE: Tie A Yellow Ribbon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;here&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Only 8 dead there. 

Admittedly the circumstances were different, but I see it as a key indicator of a correlation between the difference in dedication and the body-counts.

Maybe its just me. Maybe its because my church lost friends in the Columbine fiasco, which resembled what happened in Binghamton. But in my honestly held and professional military opinion, the police at Columbine and Binghamton were too much concerned about their own a-- than about the lives of the people they were sworn &#039;To Serve and To Protect&#039;.

What were they afraid of anyway? Losing their life? Or losing their honor?

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Where there is fear, there is no religion. -- Mohandas Gandhi]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: All<br />
RE: Too Late the Hero</p>
<p>So, according to today&#8217;s <a href="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090406/D97CL1C80.html" title="Binghamton officials defend response to massacre" rel="nofollow"><b>report</b></a>, the [To Serve and To Protect] police of Binghamton served themselves and protected their own a&#8211;, having arrived at the scene of the on-going massacre THREE minutes AFTER the 911 call was received. And then WAITED for <b>43 MINUTES</b> before entering the &#8216;fray&#8217;.</p>
<p>The result being 13 dead.</p>
<p>Thanks a LOT a&#8211;holes!</p>
<p>On the other hand, the North Carolina nursing home incident some days before had a courageous officer who recognized his duty and his oath and engaged as reported <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWQ4NDA3ZWMxZGMxMGJjOGQxMzU2NDFkYjIyOGFmMjk=" title="RE: Tie A Yellow Ribbon" rel="nofollow"><b>here</b></a>.</p>
<p>Only 8 dead there. </p>
<p>Admittedly the circumstances were different, but I see it as a key indicator of a correlation between the difference in dedication and the body-counts.</p>
<p>Maybe its just me. Maybe its because my church lost friends in the Columbine fiasco, which resembled what happened in Binghamton. But in my honestly held and professional military opinion, the police at Columbine and Binghamton were too much concerned about their own a&#8211; than about the lives of the people they were sworn &#8216;To Serve and To Protect&#8217;.</p>
<p>What were they afraid of anyway? Losing their life? Or losing their honor?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />
[Where there is fear, there is no religion. -- Mohandas Gandhi]</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar the Grump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar the Grump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John R Parker
I&#039;ve never seen anything like this before.   Its symptomatic of people who want to die.   Unfortunately they&#039;re killing others before dying.   They will be the undoing of private gun ownership in this country.

This is one of the reasons I don&#039;t like incendiary blogging like what I&#039;ve seen on some of PJM&#039;s blogs.   People blogging were running out and buying assault weapons and thousands of rounds of ammo.   Talk of rebellion is also adding fuel to the fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John R Parker<br />
I&#8217;ve never seen anything like this before.   Its symptomatic of people who want to die.   Unfortunately they&#8217;re killing others before dying.   They will be the undoing of private gun ownership in this country.</p>
<p>This is one of the reasons I don&#8217;t like incendiary blogging like what I&#8217;ve seen on some of PJM&#8217;s blogs.   People blogging were running out and buying assault weapons and thousands of rounds of ammo.   Talk of rebellion is also adding fuel to the fire.</p>
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		<title>By: John R Parker</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/thirteen-dead-in-binghamton-massacre/#comment-235378</link>
		<dc:creator>John R Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#45: Frank:  Bingo!  The dangerous part of the assault weapon ban is that if it is enacted, then what will stop these bleeding heart libs from declaring that ALL guns (including shotguns and handguns) are assault weapons, therefore giving them the power to essentially revoke the 2nd Amendment?

Also, as I post this on Sunday night, there have now been two more incidents of mass killing - the three cops gunned down in Pittsburgh (plus another one injured) and the kook in Washington state who murdered his five children because he thought his wife was about to leave him.  Add to that the massacre at the Nebraska nursing home earlier in the week, that makes four such tragedies in six days.

What is this country coming to?  As the article points out, these incidents of mass killings are starting to become more and more frequent, at an alarming rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#45: Frank:  Bingo!  The dangerous part of the assault weapon ban is that if it is enacted, then what will stop these bleeding heart libs from declaring that ALL guns (including shotguns and handguns) are assault weapons, therefore giving them the power to essentially revoke the 2nd Amendment?</p>
<p>Also, as I post this on Sunday night, there have now been two more incidents of mass killing &#8211; the three cops gunned down in Pittsburgh (plus another one injured) and the kook in Washington state who murdered his five children because he thought his wife was about to leave him.  Add to that the massacre at the Nebraska nursing home earlier in the week, that makes four such tragedies in six days.</p>
<p>What is this country coming to?  As the article points out, these incidents of mass killings are starting to become more and more frequent, at an alarming rate.</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a dangerous combination:  guns, feeble minds, altered minds, drugs (legal and not).

Would this had happened with knives, 4x4&#039;s, other close-range weapons?  Probably, but it&#039;s a hell of a lot easier to shoot at a distance.  Feeble minds know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a dangerous combination:  guns, feeble minds, altered minds, drugs (legal and not).</p>
<p>Would this had happened with knives, 4&#215;4&#8242;s, other close-range weapons?  Probably, but it&#8217;s a hell of a lot easier to shoot at a distance.  Feeble minds know that.</p>
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