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		<title>By: Mark Stewart</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the_gop_lurches_to_the_center/#comment-21508</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very simple. McCain, like all of our career politicians, is very, very good at manipulating the average person. This is especially handy when the average person doesn&#039;t have the foggiest idea how economics works or what is and is not in the Constitution.



A coworker comes to mind. He describes himself as hardcore conservative, an enemy of the Left. However, he is most definitely a socialist follower. On the subject of why alternative fuels are unable to dent the market share enjoyed by petroleum fuels: He thinks it is because Big Oil is just too powerful. On the subject of whether we should adopt a complete tax reformation such as the FairTax: he thinks that the removal of embedded taxes would not be passed down to the consumer (apparently being completely ignorant of the effect of competition on pricing). On the subject of the McCain-Feingold BCRA: He looks bewildered and asks, &quot;What&#039;s the BCRA?&quot;



McCain knows the average American is completely oblivious to what goes on in Washington. He knows most Americans don&#039;t read National Review. Most Americans don&#039;t read the Wall Street Journal editorial page. Most Americans don&#039;t listen to Neal Boortz or Rush Limbaugh. Most Americans have only the vaguest notion of what a conservative or liberal is.



To win the votes of people who think they are conservative but are mouthbreather ignorant, you only need to put on the Lee Greenwood/Red-White-and-Blue decorations/BBQ/Backyards/Ballgames/John Phillip Souza Americana-in-a-box get-up and you&#039;ve won their hearts. John McCain is selling political corruption and vote-buying socialism all done up in star spangled wrapping paper.



The fact that the opposition in the more openly socialist DNC is so far obviously of the Berkeley set is a major reason why McCain&#039;s ploy works.



To those diehard followers of the GOP leadership scared witless of the idea that their success, as the Rush Limbaugh has famously noted, does not depend on who wins elections, I say this:



I&#039;m not voting for Hillary/Obama. I&#039;m voting AGAINST McCain. (I might have stomached Romney, but not the Manchurian Candidate...no way.)



I fell for the &quot;lesser of the two evils&quot; trick in 2000 and voted for a RINO. Shame on the GOP.



Then, in 2004, I fell for it again. Shame on Me.



That&#039;s two mistakes. I will not make a third.



BTW: RED QUEEN! RED QUEEN!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very simple. McCain, like all of our career politicians, is very, very good at manipulating the average person. This is especially handy when the average person doesn&#8217;t have the foggiest idea how economics works or what is and is not in the Constitution.</p>
<p>A coworker comes to mind. He describes himself as hardcore conservative, an enemy of the Left. However, he is most definitely a socialist follower. On the subject of why alternative fuels are unable to dent the market share enjoyed by petroleum fuels: He thinks it is because Big Oil is just too powerful. On the subject of whether we should adopt a complete tax reformation such as the FairTax: he thinks that the removal of embedded taxes would not be passed down to the consumer (apparently being completely ignorant of the effect of competition on pricing). On the subject of the McCain-Feingold BCRA: He looks bewildered and asks, &#8220;What&#8217;s the BCRA?&#8221;</p>
<p>McCain knows the average American is completely oblivious to what goes on in Washington. He knows most Americans don&#8217;t read National Review. Most Americans don&#8217;t read the Wall Street Journal editorial page. Most Americans don&#8217;t listen to Neal Boortz or Rush Limbaugh. Most Americans have only the vaguest notion of what a conservative or liberal is.</p>
<p>To win the votes of people who think they are conservative but are mouthbreather ignorant, you only need to put on the Lee Greenwood/Red-White-and-Blue decorations/BBQ/Backyards/Ballgames/John Phillip Souza Americana-in-a-box get-up and you&#8217;ve won their hearts. John McCain is selling political corruption and vote-buying socialism all done up in star spangled wrapping paper.</p>
<p>The fact that the opposition in the more openly socialist DNC is so far obviously of the Berkeley set is a major reason why McCain&#8217;s ploy works.</p>
<p>To those diehard followers of the GOP leadership scared witless of the idea that their success, as the Rush Limbaugh has famously noted, does not depend on who wins elections, I say this:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not voting for Hillary/Obama. I&#8217;m voting AGAINST McCain. (I might have stomached Romney, but not the Manchurian Candidate&#8230;no way.)</p>
<p>I fell for the &#8220;lesser of the two evils&#8221; trick in 2000 and voted for a RINO. Shame on the GOP.</p>
<p>Then, in 2004, I fell for it again. Shame on Me.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s two mistakes. I will not make a third.</p>
<p>BTW: RED QUEEN! RED QUEEN!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the_gop_lurches_to_the_center/#comment-21507</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 02:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a similar proposal is already floating around out there, but, if McCain manages to win then  conservatives need to show McCain who&#039;s in charge of this party.  For not lauching a third party campaign conservatives get to select the VP.  Then McCain has to advertise just who will be on his cabinet and it better not include Huckabee or Rudy.  Last, we get to write the reform of the nomination process:  one national primary day for all fifty states.  Any states that do not comply lose there delegates;  States with open primaries will be penalized 50%.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a similar proposal is already floating around out there, but, if McCain manages to win then  conservatives need to show McCain who&#8217;s in charge of this party.  For not lauching a third party campaign conservatives get to select the VP.  Then McCain has to advertise just who will be on his cabinet and it better not include Huckabee or Rudy.  Last, we get to write the reform of the nomination process:  one national primary day for all fifty states.  Any states that do not comply lose there delegates;  States with open primaries will be penalized 50%.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the_gop_lurches_to_the_center/#comment-21506</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will never vote for John McCain.  I am a conservative, not a republican.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will never vote for John McCain.  I am a conservative, not a republican.</p>
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		<title>By: David W. Lincoln</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the_gop_lurches_to_the_center/#comment-21505</link>
		<dc:creator>David W. Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that Ron Paul is similar to Nancy Reagan - both are suspicious of people who are loyal to ideas instead of people.

Well, seeing that backers of Ron Paul would purge those who put more confidence in ministers than in windbags who know what to say so that the listener hears what the listener wants to hear - he can join the segment who wants life to only be 1776.

What is the difference between them and those who want to the world to go back to the 7th. Century?

Life changes because of new sequences of cause and effect have been known to be introduced.

So, one can either pine for the &quot;good ole days&quot; or with confidence face the future.

This is why I think highly of Mike Huckabee&#039;s message of &quot;I believe in Hope&quot;, via he endorsing President Reagan.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that Ron Paul is similar to Nancy Reagan &#8211; both are suspicious of people who are loyal to ideas instead of people.</p>
<p>Well, seeing that backers of Ron Paul would purge those who put more confidence in ministers than in windbags who know what to say so that the listener hears what the listener wants to hear &#8211; he can join the segment who wants life to only be 1776.</p>
<p>What is the difference between them and those who want to the world to go back to the 7th. Century?</p>
<p>Life changes because of new sequences of cause and effect have been known to be introduced.</p>
<p>So, one can either pine for the &#8220;good ole days&#8221; or with confidence face the future.</p>
<p>This is why I think highly of Mike Huckabee&#8217;s message of &#8220;I believe in Hope&#8221;, via he endorsing President Reagan.</p>
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		<title>By: Smarty</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the_gop_lurches_to_the_center/#comment-21504</link>
		<dc:creator>Smarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there are fewer conservatives, we let the gutless, RINO controlled RNC run things, and they run things by sucking up to the MSM rather than by fighting back. Who should be working with state parties to eliminate open primaries? The RNC.

Who should be working with the state parties to ensure that our most liberal few states don&#039;t get the first say? The RNC. Who should be deciding how many debates to have and who moderates them? The RNC.

The RNC needs a purge like Michael More needs a colin cleansing. Both would result in the same kind of waste washing out, IMHO.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there are fewer conservatives, we let the gutless, RINO controlled RNC run things, and they run things by sucking up to the MSM rather than by fighting back. Who should be working with state parties to eliminate open primaries? The RNC.</p>
<p>Who should be working with the state parties to ensure that our most liberal few states don&#8217;t get the first say? The RNC. Who should be deciding how many debates to have and who moderates them? The RNC.</p>
<p>The RNC needs a purge like Michael More needs a colin cleansing. Both would result in the same kind of waste washing out, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Bradstreet</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the_gop_lurches_to_the_center/#comment-21503</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal Bradstreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we&#039;re seeing here, in my opinion, is the advent of a true third-party in the US political universe. It takes the middle road, eschewing the far left and the far right. It&#039;s a hybred that obviously represents more of main-stream America than either of the extremes.
Frankly I think it&#039;s the wave of the future and the drowning of the left and right fanatics.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we&#8217;re seeing here, in my opinion, is the advent of a true third-party in the US political universe. It takes the middle road, eschewing the far left and the far right. It&#8217;s a hybred that obviously represents more of main-stream America than either of the extremes.<br />
Frankly I think it&#8217;s the wave of the future and the drowning of the left and right fanatics.</p>
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		<title>By: sheryl</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the_gop_lurches_to_the_center/#comment-21502</link>
		<dc:creator>sheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 06:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain isn&#039;t the GOP&#039;s best candidate.

It&#039;s almost like the GOP establishment has one of those red &quot;take a number&quot; machines that you see at a bakery or a deli counter and McCain&#039;s number has come up. Pathetic.

McCain 2008 = Bob Dole 1996

McCain isn&#039;t that smart and if the GOP is going to even think of competing against an Oprah approved Obama or both Clintons, we need someone who is wicked smart, with a quick robust intelligence, real world experience and fresh ideas.

I&#039;m voting for Mitt Romney because I believe he has the skills required to be a great POTUS.






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain isn&#8217;t the GOP&#8217;s best candidate.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost like the GOP establishment has one of those red &#8220;take a number&#8221; machines that you see at a bakery or a deli counter and McCain&#8217;s number has come up. Pathetic.</p>
<p>McCain 2008 = Bob Dole 1996</p>
<p>McCain isn&#8217;t that smart and if the GOP is going to even think of competing against an Oprah approved Obama or both Clintons, we need someone who is wicked smart, with a quick robust intelligence, real world experience and fresh ideas.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m voting for Mitt Romney because I believe he has the skills required to be a great POTUS.</p>
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		<title>By: John the Dennis Miller Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the_gop_lurches_to_the_center/#comment-21501</link>
		<dc:creator>John the Dennis Miller Libertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a recovering Democrat (we never fully recover, do we?) who took 10 years to shake off the liberal indoctrination of the University system; I now align myself with Reagan (and Thompson) conservatives.  It appears the Republican party is in disarray this election cycle and may very well lose the White House to a Democrat; that said, nothing seems to clarify and crystallize the conservative movement than to witness the damage wrought.  Coulter may well be right that under a Democrat president the Republicans will regain the House and Senate in &#039;10.



Which is all fun and games, but let&#039;s try to keep our eye on the big picture, yes?  Judicial nominees.  Judicial nominees.  Judicial nominees.



Plug your nose and vote McCain if you must.



And to all you Paul supporters?  Your zealotry scares the rest of us.  Truly, it does.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a recovering Democrat (we never fully recover, do we?) who took 10 years to shake off the liberal indoctrination of the University system; I now align myself with Reagan (and Thompson) conservatives.  It appears the Republican party is in disarray this election cycle and may very well lose the White House to a Democrat; that said, nothing seems to clarify and crystallize the conservative movement than to witness the damage wrought.  Coulter may well be right that under a Democrat president the Republicans will regain the House and Senate in &#8217;10.</p>
<p>Which is all fun and games, but let&#8217;s try to keep our eye on the big picture, yes?  Judicial nominees.  Judicial nominees.  Judicial nominees.</p>
<p>Plug your nose and vote McCain if you must.</p>
<p>And to all you Paul supporters?  Your zealotry scares the rest of us.  Truly, it does.</p>
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		<title>By: John the Dennis Miller Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the_gop_lurches_to_the_center/#comment-21500</link>
		<dc:creator>John the Dennis Miller Libertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a recovering Democrat (we never fully recover, do we?) who took 10 years to shake off the liberal indoctrination of the University system; I now align myself with Reagan (and Thompson) conservatives.  It appears the Republican party is in disarray this election cycle and may very well lose the White House to a Democrat; that said, nothing seems to clarify and crystallize the conservative movement than to witness the damage wrought.  Coulter may well be right that under a Democrat president the Republicans will regain the House and Senate in &#039;10.



Which is all fun and games, but let&#039;s try to keep our eye on the big picture, yes?  Judicial nominees.  Judicial nominees.  Judicial nominees.



Plug your nose and vote McCain if you must.



And to all you Paul supporters?  Your zealotry scares the rest of us.  Truly, it does.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a recovering Democrat (we never fully recover, do we?) who took 10 years to shake off the liberal indoctrination of the University system; I now align myself with Reagan (and Thompson) conservatives.  It appears the Republican party is in disarray this election cycle and may very well lose the White House to a Democrat; that said, nothing seems to clarify and crystallize the conservative movement than to witness the damage wrought.  Coulter may well be right that under a Democrat president the Republicans will regain the House and Senate in &#8217;10.</p>
<p>Which is all fun and games, but let&#8217;s try to keep our eye on the big picture, yes?  Judicial nominees.  Judicial nominees.  Judicial nominees.</p>
<p>Plug your nose and vote McCain if you must.</p>
<p>And to all you Paul supporters?  Your zealotry scares the rest of us.  Truly, it does.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenLiberty</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the_gop_lurches_to_the_center/#comment-21499</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenLiberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the evangelicals and neocons began to dismantle the GOP in the &#039;80s, I said &quot;So long. Call me when the Constitution becomes important again.&quot;



Finally, in 2007 a Republican did show up amid all the RINOs. So I returned, only to discover that the first truly Republican candidate since Goldwater was despised by the media, the insider establishment, and the fearful--just like Goldwater. In short, RINOs and lovers of the corporate State.



Though McCain claims &quot;outsider and maverick&quot; labels, he&#039;s been part of the establishment all his adult life: Born on a naval base as the son and grandson of admirals, lived on a military bases his entire childhood, went to the Naval Academy, served a full military career, immediately ran for congress in &#039;82 after retiring, moved on to the Senate in &#039;86, and has been there ever since. So McCain has been a paid employee of the US government for 54 years and grew up in an elite military family before that. You can&#039;t get any more &#039;establishment&#039; than John McCain.



So what if the likely GOP nominee believes in restraints on free speech (like Kennedy), higher taxation (like Clinton), bigger government (like Bush), open borders (like Durbin), and 100-year U.S. armies of occupation everywhere from Albania to Zimbabwe? Romney believes in those things too - at least, he does when he&#039;s in a room full of people that want him to.



In stark contrast, Dr. Ron Paul is the private sector candidate, for all those productive Americans who are sick and tired of foreign wars, Federal Reserve bubbles that only beat down farmers and ranchers, the police state, and excessive taxes. Only Ron Paul speaks for freedom, peace, and prosperity. And after Wednesday&#039;s debate, I&#039;ll agree with them.



Without a strong economy, everything else fails as well. When Bush took office in 2001, I bought gold at $270/ounce. Today&#039;s price is over $900--and not because gold has become more valuable; rather, you need more dollars to buy the same amount of gold. The economic failures hitting Main St. will hit harder the longer Washington continues to spend like drunks and only Dr. Paul is addressing this core issue in an intelligent manner. Why can&#039;t a Senator or Governor?



Dr. Paul serves on the House Committee on Financial Services and the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. I believe he knows what he&#039;s talking about when he points out the financial trouble coming down the pike.



And &#039;national security&#039; conservatives, please note that when the dollar finally crashes (a la the ruble in &#039;80s and &#039;90s), any sense of military security will crumble as well. How many soldiers will continue to defend Iraq, Germany, or Japan when the paycheck doesn&#039;t arrive? Or behave as Russian soldiers did and sell military hardware to feed their families?



Save America, save the dollar, and save our grandchildren from the fate of Russians: support Dr. Ron Paul.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the evangelicals and neocons began to dismantle the GOP in the &#8217;80s, I said &#8220;So long. Call me when the Constitution becomes important again.&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally, in 2007 a Republican did show up amid all the RINOs. So I returned, only to discover that the first truly Republican candidate since Goldwater was despised by the media, the insider establishment, and the fearful&#8211;just like Goldwater. In short, RINOs and lovers of the corporate State.</p>
<p>Though McCain claims &#8220;outsider and maverick&#8221; labels, he&#8217;s been part of the establishment all his adult life: Born on a naval base as the son and grandson of admirals, lived on a military bases his entire childhood, went to the Naval Academy, served a full military career, immediately ran for congress in &#8217;82 after retiring, moved on to the Senate in &#8217;86, and has been there ever since. So McCain has been a paid employee of the US government for 54 years and grew up in an elite military family before that. You can&#8217;t get any more &#8216;establishment&#8217; than John McCain.</p>
<p>So what if the likely GOP nominee believes in restraints on free speech (like Kennedy), higher taxation (like Clinton), bigger government (like Bush), open borders (like Durbin), and 100-year U.S. armies of occupation everywhere from Albania to Zimbabwe? Romney believes in those things too &#8211; at least, he does when he&#8217;s in a room full of people that want him to.</p>
<p>In stark contrast, Dr. Ron Paul is the private sector candidate, for all those productive Americans who are sick and tired of foreign wars, Federal Reserve bubbles that only beat down farmers and ranchers, the police state, and excessive taxes. Only Ron Paul speaks for freedom, peace, and prosperity. And after Wednesday&#8217;s debate, I&#8217;ll agree with them.</p>
<p>Without a strong economy, everything else fails as well. When Bush took office in 2001, I bought gold at $270/ounce. Today&#8217;s price is over $900&#8211;and not because gold has become more valuable; rather, you need more dollars to buy the same amount of gold. The economic failures hitting Main St. will hit harder the longer Washington continues to spend like drunks and only Dr. Paul is addressing this core issue in an intelligent manner. Why can&#8217;t a Senator or Governor?</p>
<p>Dr. Paul serves on the House Committee on Financial Services and the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. I believe he knows what he&#8217;s talking about when he points out the financial trouble coming down the pike.</p>
<p>And &#8216;national security&#8217; conservatives, please note that when the dollar finally crashes (a la the ruble in &#8217;80s and &#8217;90s), any sense of military security will crumble as well. How many soldiers will continue to defend Iraq, Germany, or Japan when the paycheck doesn&#8217;t arrive? Or behave as Russian soldiers did and sell military hardware to feed their families?</p>
<p>Save America, save the dollar, and save our grandchildren from the fate of Russians: support Dr. Ron Paul.</p>
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