The Victims of Fort Hood
Part of being the family member of a soldier is the knowledge that when your loved one deploys overseas, you may never see them whole again. Some soldiers come back without visible wounds but with shattered minds. Some return with bodies wrecked by the savage machinery of war. Some don’t come back at all.
It is a risk that soldiers are willing to take in order to serve and protect their nation and a risk that the families also begrudgingly accept. That doesn’t make it any easier when the message is delivered that changes their world forever.
One of the more brief but powerful scenes at the beginning of 1998′s Saving Private Ryan is when Mrs. Ryan sees a government car slowly approaching her home. She walks out onto her front porch, only to slowly collapse into sobs when she realizes that the unexpected arrival heralds the death of her sons. There are no words in that scene. Some feelings are simply beyond words.
On Thursday afternoon, family members of real soldiers experienced the crushing sense of loss and isolation when they learned that their loved ones were inexplicably cut down on base.
Not in Iraq or Afghanistan, but in Texas.
Such things should not happen.
Now that the initial confusion has passed, we know that 12 soldiers were killed yesterday and 30 people were wounded. They were shot by Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a fellow soldier at Fort Hood. Hasan was a psychiatrist scheduled to deploy to Iraq at the end of November. It would have been his first overseas deployment. Ironically, Hasan specialized in treating traumatic stress. He was wounded by a responding civilian police officer and is in custody.
The knee-jerk response of many to seeing the shooter’s Arabic name was to assume this was a terrorist attack. Impulsive or not, facts now suggest that Hasan’s Islamic faith was indeed a motivating factor in the killings. That supposition seems backed by claims he shouted “Allahu Akbar!” before he began his rampage.
According to an officer who served with him at Walter Reed Hospital, Hasan spoke approvingly of the shooting of Army recruiters this past summer by a Muslim convert in Little Rock, Arkansas. Authorities also investigated Hasan as long as six months ago for internet postings discussing suicide bombings and other attacks, though they have not yet determined definitively if he was the author of those posts. One of those posts was a blog entry that deified suicide bombers as being similar to soldiers who throw themselves on hand grenades in order to save the lives of their fellow soldiers.
Blame must fall on the military command for permitting this man to advance in the service and to be in a position to do this terrible deed. Sometimes where there is smoke, there is no fire, but firemen should not ignore smoke.
Treason.
Less than two hours after it happened, the FBI had already issued a statement saying that the shooting was not linked to Islamic terrorism.
Isn’t that comforting.
Besides the fact that a mass shooting is by nature an act of terrorism, let’s look at what we know now:
The shooter, Major Malik Nadal Hasan, was a Muslim.
The shooter, Major Malik Nadal Hasan, was scheduled to be deployed.
The shooter, Major Malik Nadal Hasan, was known to be extremely unhappy with his impending deployment.
The shooter, Major Malik Nadal Hasan, was known to have argued in the past that Muslims should oppose the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
So, of course his heinous crime wasn’t linked to Islamic terrorism at all.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that it necessarily is, but how the hell can the FBI be so sure when they haven’t even had time to conduct even the most rudimentary investigation yet? Since when do we pronounce judgement before we gather all the facts? When we fear that those facts just make some sacred cow uncomfortable, that’s when.
Oh, they’ll do an investigation all right. And what they find is absolutely going to support their foregone conclusion. It’s what they were told to do by their liberal bureaucratic masters who willfully insist on hiding behind a fact-proof shield that protects them from ever seeing anything that will conflict with their visions of a rainbow-and-unicorn populated fantasy land.
This PC crap is going to be the death of us all.
The only way to stop these sort of events from happening is defense in depth. More office people and regular army people need to be armed when at their jobs.
This doesn’t make all Muslims traitors, but it is simply unreasonable to ignore the fact that we are at war with Muslim terrorists.
We are at war, but a military base remains a weapon-free zone. If it were up to me, every NCO and above on-duty would be armed on every base until this conflict was over.
This sickening, willful ignorance has got to end.
“The knee-jerk response of many to seeing the shooter’s Arabic name was to assume this was a terrorist attack. ” No it is not a knee-jerk reaction. It is a realization of what we are fighting against. The knee-jerk response is actually the very opposite…. the insistence that it is NOT and act of terror.
The act is really just another battle in the Long War. It was an act of combat against our military. Soon the battle will be joined once again by everyday citizens, at the mall or in our schools.
Do not allow the fringe media to label this killer as the victim. It has already started.
We should remind ourselves that we too…can be the foreigner, and we too, can be the orphan. Lest we forget, that we were once the tired and the poor citizens of the earth. However, I too understand the outcry. It hurts. Its wrong. And it must not be tolerated. .. must we always be so free?….
I firmly believe that if a Muslim takes Islam seriously, then he or she is utterly incapable of being a good US citizen. Hasan obviously placed his loyalty to the Islamic Ummah far above his sworn loyalty to America and our Constitution. So much so that he was willing to mass murder “infidel” soldiers in an act of affirmation of his Muslimness and solidarity with the Ummah. Muslims don’t belong in the US military. The multicultural lie which suggests such “diversity” is a boon is an evil bane on American servicemen and women who must risk their all beside such Muslim time bombs.
>U.S. Representative Michael McCaul attended a
>military briefing this morning and found out
>that Hasan had taken “a lot of extra classes in
>weapons training, which seems a little odd for
>a psychiatrist.
Not for one about to be deployed to Afghanistan.
Modern military psychiatic treatment protocals stress the importance of treating soldiers close to the front.
That due diligence in self-defense training can and was seen by his chain of command as taking necessary precautions for deployment to a war zone.
This was not a terrorist attack. And, “Let me be clear, I do not have all the facts. But clearly, the Cambridge Police acted stupidly.”
I have not noted, in all the response to this act, universally understood by all but the MSM as an act of terrorism, reference to the truth that the Muslim Major regarded his mass assassinations not as a reprisal but as a Martydom, assuring him Paradise on the Great Day of Judgement. Hassan, the Martyr of Fort Hood.
And so he will be regarded in the mosques. Expect no apologies from the “moderates”.
Hasan yelled “Allahu Akbar!” as he slaughtered our people. And, as we have been dutifully taught — by the MSM, our public schools and our “liberal” churches — this is the battle cry of Welsh Catholics.
“If it were up to me, every NCO and above on-duty would be armed on every base until this conflict was over. ”
I agree.
I understand why the military keeps its regular infantry firearms locked up and carefully accounted for. However, it seems ridiculous to me that Non-coms and officers don’t even have holstered pistols when on duty.
This nutcase attacked a US military installation, armed only with two pistols, and managed to shoot at least 43 people before he was stopped by a CIVILIAN cop?!?
What kind of a MILITARY disarms itself to such an extent that it can’t repel a lone attacker armed with nothing but the smallest of firearms?
“This PC crap is going to be the death of us all.”
I’ll second that sentiment. It’s appalling that there were signs Hasan was troubled and against US intervention in Muslim territories, and as far as we know, no action was taken to counsel him or intervene. The video of Hasan getting his morning coffee in Arabic dress is disturbing. We’re talking about a man born on American soil, educated in America, a doctor … we’re not talking about a recent immigrant. If any Christian I know dressed like an Apostle (tunic, sandals) to get his morning coffee, and he wasn’t living in Nazareth, I’d be worried about his emotional stability, too.
Tragic and discoraging as this event was, we cannot ignore the phenomenally callous reaction of our commader-in-chief to it – mister Obama, although aware of this situation, preferred to continue the business in the same relaxed and casual manner that is praised by his adorerers as “cool demeanor”.
An early take on this disgusting arrogance and detachment is in the NBC lik bellow:
“Obama’s Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting/
A bad week for Democrats compounded by an awful moment for Barack Obama.”
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disconnected-
But then, why should Obama try to show some emotion regarding this?
“God damn America” was his electoral cry-de-guerre, and one year of presidency and lofty pronouncements (in Cairo, among other places!) showed that this is still his belief and marching screed – America is a land of criminals who deserve the worst history can object them to -
Was I the only one who I saw Obama truly passionate only when speaking in Cairo about the dwarfing merits of the Muslim civilization, and when in Gates case said that “police acted stupidly”?
Good to have the Wright tape to see where is Obama’s passion –
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PS: Talking about Hussein Obama’s mysterious background – some onomastic trivia:
Now we are all know the name of Nidal Malik Hasan – “Hussein” (Hussain) actually means “little Hasan”, or “son of Hasan”…
Certainly, from now on a solid political selling point…
Dear President Obama;
I’m writing regarding the attack on the Fort Hood by Major Hassan. There are approximately 4,000 active duty troops in the US Military that self-select as practicing muslims. You must order that these men and women be subject to complete review of their activities and comments outside and inside their duties in the US Military. If it is found that they have made statements or are making comments online that are sympathetic to muslim radicalism they must be honorably discharged with what ever benefits they have attained. The men and women of the United States military deserve the utmost protection that our intelligence services can provide; if we are unable to keep tabs on this fellow who publicly makes statements against the United States of America while serving in the US military what hope do any of us have?
Finally, you must order that any base that has activities where troops are unarmed because of training or other activities that an armed presence is on hand to retard this from ever happening again. When my grandfather and my father served they were issued side arms to defend against this and other eventualities.
Major Hassan shot a pregnant women; if that isn’t enough for you to do the right thing in this instance I don’t know what is.
Barak Hussein says not to jump to conclusions.
And I don’t even need to be Mark Twain to write such a perfectly humorous sentence, isn’t that wonderful ?
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
“Hasan’s attack was the third significant “blue on blue” attack by an American soldier on his fellow soldiers in the past 14 years and the second by a Muslim.”
Wrong Mr. Owens and nice try to whitewash this horrible act of terrorism by limiting this to just “blue on blue.” And then to tell us about two Muslims who are interred in Arlington. Way to deflect from the issue. So I guess any Latinos buried in there forgives the MS-13 gangs and the rape that happened in Richmond,CA last week. Oh, all is forgiven because two of your kind died for the US.
Let’s not forget the attack on the recruiters in Arkansas last year. And how about John Muhammad the DC sniper. And the Fort Dix attack that was planned by Muslims and fortunately stopped.
It is weak-kneed liberals like you who are afraid to label this as it is: a terrorist attack on our soil by an Islamic jihadist.
At the very least this should be considered a hate crime and I see the FBI is not so inclined to label it as such. I wonder why??? Could AG Holder have something to do with that very quick proclamation? Or if black soldiers were also targeted and hit then it could not be a hate crime.
So Hassan will be treated by the very people he sought to murder; the liberal lawyers are lining up to defend him; the MSM will mark him as a victim; and the soldiers who were killed and wounded will be quickly forgotten.
Mr Obama tells us to not jump to conclusions about the incident….really Mr Obama? Don’t jump to conclusions?
“The police acted stupidly”
Adam: I think I’m being chased by a psychiatrist.
Soda Jerk: It happens.
“Shooter advised Obama transition/Fort Hood triggerman aided team on Homeland Security task force”/Jerome R. Corsi/© 2009 WorldNetDaily
NEW YORK – Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the alleged shooter in yesterday’s massacre at Fort Hood, played a homeland security advisory role in President Barack Obama’s transition into the White House, according to a key university policy institute document.
The Homeland Security Policy Institute at George Washington University published a document May 19, entitled “Thinking Anew – Security Priorities for the Next Administration: Proceedings Report of the HSPI Presidential Transition Task Force, April 2008 – January 2009,” in which Hasan of the Uniformed Services University School of Medicine is listed on page 29 of the document as a Task Force Event Participant. [...]
more@ http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115230
I wish to thank Mr. Owens for his commentary. I believe that at this time his remarks cover this tragic episode. Time will tell if there is more to the story and further judgments must wait on further investigation. Thank you again.
They protect us in peacetime and war, they are our protectors and they had to have a civilian police officer stop the killer. It should not happen this way; every American Soldier has a right to bear arms and from now on, they should carry their weapons that they are trained to use.
If an American Soldier trains to use the weapon, let him carry his weapons to protect himself during war, especially now that our enemies are on the inside.
I do not know why the Soldiers were not armed, but they should be, and should remember that the enemy can be your officer and the enemy has most definitely infiltrated our country.
This seems to be bringing up an entirely new topic ..
Pre-deployment PTSD or Second-hand PTSD
Somehow this psychiatrist has managed to acquire PTSD before ever getting to the battlefield, apparently by second-hand exposure to those who have PTSD.
16. misanthopicus: ‘…we cannot ignore the phenomenally callous reaction of our commader-in-chief to it – mister Obama, although aware of this situation, preferred to continue the business in the same relaxed and casual manner that is praised by his adorerers as “cool demeanor”.’
Well, y’see, mis, he was reading a book to a group of visiting school children, and he didn’t want to lose his place.
Obama picked this shooter to be on his transition team.
Of course, the FBI is whitewashing it.
The notion that other Muslims are the victims here is risible.
IF (as has not happened and won’t happen) Muslims who are indeed loyal to the United States went out of their way to renounce violence, to condemn these attacks unequivocally AND inform on anyone within the Muslim community in the United States who seems to be fomenting jihad or harboring jihadist sentiments, THEN, I’d be willing to consider the argument.
If Muslims are victims in any way, it is of their own refusal to cast out the radicals in their midst.
As far as I’m concerned EVERY Muslim is a potential jihadist until I have good evidence to the contrary. MUSLIMS are the once who attacked the US, let THEM demonstrate their good faith to the rest of America.
We let them come here and share the benefits of our society as we have those of many faiths and national origins. They’re the ones who are abusing our trust.
If ISLAM doesn’t deal with the radicals, others will. Not only on the national level but on the international level. I hope it won’t come to it, but the unwillingness to deal with Iran now will probably mean that millions, or even tens of millions, will die instead of thousands now.
Even if anybody reported this guy’s comments, probably nothing was done about it because of political correctness, since he is a muslim. This incident might have been prevented if the FBI or the military had properly investigated this muslim for the comments he posted on the internet about suicide bombings.
I think we should stop allowing muslims into the military. They are a security risk that we don’t need. This is not the first time a muslim has killed other soldiers. The last guy tried to take out all the officers in his brigade, including the commander. We just cannot continue to allow this to happen in our military.
Funny, my post of one hour ago didn’t pass the moderation.
You didn’t like my sarcasm about a president named BARAK HUSSEIN who says that we must not “jump to conclusions” about what happened in Fort Hood ?
I remind you that religion is not race and that I can laugh about anybody’s THOUGHTS AND WORDS AND ACTIONS without being accused of “racism”.
The fact that we have a muslimarxist administration cannot be simply censored away by avoiding the most difficult subjects of discussion.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
We should return to the idea from WWII and place Muslims in their own regiment – as we did with Japanese-Americans. It’s obvious to everyone outside the media and the government that the idea of integrated units, while no doubt the politically correct idea, is simply unworkable because it inevitably means placing heavily armed enemy agents in our own armed services. This simply has to be the single most unworkable idea in the entire history of combat.
It happened in Kuwait. Now it happened at Fort Hood. It will happen again and again until we change our policy and simply accept the reality that the present arrangement does not and can not work. It is inevitable that one day we will lose a warship to an American sailor on his own personal jihad.
Everybody knows this was an act of terrorism, but neither the Obama administration nor the MSM want it to be perceived as such. Therefore, they will see to it, “by any means necessary,” that the official truth is politically correct in every particular. At this very moment, they are concocting the official p.c. “spin” for all of us to puke on tomorrow or the next day. Some way, somehow, the blame is going to be placed on white people. And anyone who publicly questions the official version will soon regret having done so.
After Ron Kuby and the ACLU are finished with this case, Major Hassan could well emerge the big winner.
Major is the rank designation for an MD who has finished a residency in a speciality and is an older individual. Medical rank is somewhat different from regular military. If he had been in the military for a period and not obtained Colonel, then he was getting bad reports, which it seems was the case.
I personally have no use for any organized religion and feel that they all have a potential for extreme violence. However, Islam seems to promote violence to a greater extent than the other religious groups. In fact, even moderates are not willing to purge their literature of these references. So with that concept, why don’t we have restrictions on Islam. We seem more than willing to condeme the preachings and violence of the KKK, much less so for the Black Panthers, but definitely give only a nod to Islam.
For those of you who have not seen the video, you need to watch Obama’s acknowledgement of this incident. It is shameful. He begins the news conference with congratulations on an Interior Dept. conference and only at the end indicates any “concern” for his troops. As I recall, a few Roman emperiors did not give the military their due and paid a high price.
There it goes the religion of peace, when we the infidel will rest in peace, thats there concept, when do we learned?
It will be interesting what the Muslim-terrorist loving, ultra-left wing, anti-American, Obama media will do next. They can make excuses for all the Muslim murderers we pick up around the world, but this one was a US soldier, on US territory and arrested by US law enforcement. He’s going to die! Think Timothy McVeigh!
Between now and then, we’ll have drama about his meals, his prayer area, foot baths, unclean hands touching his koran, female guards, all treated with THE SKY IS FALLING concern by the captive media.
We’ll see some major equivalency, as well. If Mustafa Adullah from Gitmo gets sent to West Cupcakeistan, why isn’t Hasan? The captive media will make endless excuses for him and his murder.
Prediction- This guy will become the muslim Mummia with Polanski petition signers taking up Hasan’s case. It won’t be as bad as if Bush were President, but the left wing will support anyone who kills US soldiers.
It’s not about Muslim and Islam… Is it?
This guy was a contentious objector, which means he shouldn’t have been deployed in the first place, but you know how many countless times I seen this rule or regulation ignored?? Also the one for “Sole Survivor” (meaning the only male member of a family is not to deploy in war-time efforts)…
So who is the blame? Because we humans have to place blame..
The Military? For ignoring this man and continuing to let him serve as he states countless times in uniform that he is against the war. Why send someone who is against what you are doing? Ahh Haa NUMBERS.. the military needs numbers and need slots to be filled..
But you cannot go against a entire group of people or Muslims or Islamist because of particular events or the acts of particular sects.. That would not be fair.
It’s like I said it’s not about Muslim/Islam..
It’s just a case of the Kansas City Shuffle… Meaning I get you so fixated on one thing and soon as you turn away long enough I attack you from behind..
Just as the media and everyone is putting a fixation on Muslim/Islam.. Kansas City Shuffle…
It’s like, I walk up to you and say hey what’s that and as you turn and look, I sucker punch you..
It’s so sad that this has happened.
It’s bigger than what you may think.. Just keep praying and Keep GOD first always and HE will get you through.. I promise…
We do not seem to hear of reports of random mini-massacres by devout Islamic “martyrs” from Britain and other European nations where there are far higher percentages of Muslim population. Could this be because there has been a higher toleration there? Could these apparently un-coordinated rages, certainly not he work of Al Qaeda, be the result of the early public resistance to the Mullahs’ taking advantage of the official “moral equivalency” policies, ignoring of the open threat it represents?
Early exposure and wide opposition are the best protection against insidious, subversive onslaughts attempting to take advantage of complacency. Like in the case of Obama’s camaign.
Excuse me, but why haven’t any of our crack reporters asked why that building full of troops, supposedly trained to the hilt in the martial arts, were incapable of rushing and subduing the crazed shooter before he got off 40 plus rounds of pistol shots?
RE #26/biblio44 RE #16/misanthopicus
[...] Well, y’see, mis, he was reading a book to a group of visiting school children, and he didn’t want to lose his place. [...]
Wrong info, biblio, Obama was upgrading his Swiss for speaking next week at Berlin -
Noble thought there no 29 (sheri). However, in the real world just try to get something done in the middle east without Arab/Muslim friends…and allies. I can understand your frustration but we must not…repeat.. must not paint all muslims with the same brush. Their religion is not their fault..its their religion. By the way, not all baptists are money hungry and corrupt are they?…think…. however, I too…hate what happened yesterday.
WHAT will it take to finally destroy this PC virus? Political correctness is like HIV: it will destroy our ability to defend ourselves against the cancer of radical Islam.
In the future, when Muhammad Jihad binLaden blows himself up in a mall taking a few hundred infidels with him while shouting alahu akbar, this is just the act of a lone kook with psych problems and “intermittent explosive disorder” that has nothing to do with Islam.
When Timothy McVeigh Smith III goes to shoot up a DMV office, this will be seen as a conspiracy of white militiamen/anti-government extremists egged on by Rush, Sarah Palin and Fox news, and the crackdown by the FBI will be immediate.
You know this is coming America. Just be good sheep and go to the slaughter, we need to cull the herd of patriotic americans to usher in a marxist new world order.
I recommend reading “The Age of Tolerance” to see what is in our future. We are doomed.
Thank you, both the posts are now up.
And I remind everyone to regularly check the jihad numbers at
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
Numbers are important.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
The Major was following Mohammed commanded by the Koran. Who is Apostate, the Muslim militay groups writing this is a wrong act against country or Corp, or is the Major?
Feel good PC BS will continue to state Islam is a religion of peace. Yet, this Major going Jehad is just the latest battle in a long line of battles within this war.
G-d speed to our dead, wounded, and families of same.
Political correctness is killing us!
Okay, so there are 12 dead and dozens more injured; BUT, LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE — We can all be happy about the fact that no one discriminated or used racial profiling to identify this whack job!
Regardless of whether he spent time in an Al-Qaeda training camp, this guy had all the symptoms of being a devout muslim and a terrorist sympathizer.
Many of our leaders are WAY TO concerned about political correctness to acknowledge it for what it is: an act of terrorism by an Islamic extremist in an effort to eliminate a few infidels.
Political correctness + the religion of peace + a fearful military bureaucracy = Hasan
26. biblio44: Yeah, it’s all Bush’s fault!
I work on a military installation and this doesn’t happen. It just doesn’t…I feel for the families and I feel for our country.
Obama, get off your socialized medicine kick and lead your military…Commander in Chief!!! Your first job and should be your first priority. Have you forgotten the wars and your military?
“The left wing will support anyone who kills US soldiers.”
Or police officers. Very true. It has been demonstrated many times over the past few decades (cf. Obama’s pals William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn). I’d change the word “support” to “exalt,” though.
Strange, I haven’t seen the left’s official version of the Fort Hood terrorist attack yet. Well, I’m sure it’s in the works, and I expect it to include a reference to an alleged injustice some Moslems suffered 900 years ago. I’ll turn on some network shortly to see whether the political truth has been made public.
In answer to queries above, political correctness will not fade away. It will not disintegrate bit by bit. It will, at some point in the not-too-distant future, be crushed with a vengeance by a country that simply will not tolerate it a second longer. It will be a glorious day.
26. biblio,
So is that really what you are reduced to? Excusing Obama by comparing him to Bush? If Bush really was so bad, is that truly the connection you want to make?
I can’t think of the last time I heard anyone, even lefty democrats, actually try to offer Obama real praise, rather than just an variation on “he’s not as bad as Bush”.
I’ve got news for you: “Not as bad as” still equals bad. And this man-child, this teenager-in-chief, who can’t even manage to appear serious or sympathetic in his own news conference about the shooting (and before he even gets to his non-sympathy has to prattle on for over three minutes about mundane greetings to the attendants of a conference before he even gets to it), he is a truly rotten president.
Obama seriously appeared that this shooting was just an inconvenience to his “shout out” to his pals at a government conference. I’ve never been impressed by Obama, but this was the first time he actually turned my stomach.
Is religion a subset of insanity, or is insanity a subset of religion?
For Heaven’s sake, Mr. President, don’t “jump to conclusions”! Go have another sip of Jeremiah Wright’s PC Kool-Aid. Self-destructive societies often select self-destructive leaders.
The victims were not even cold when the media’s PC police started to whitewash this atrocity!
MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow whined about “post-traumatic stress” and the “harassment of Maj. Hasan”
Chris (tingle-up-my-leg) Matthews pontificated that he was uneasy about making any judgments.
These shameless fools are the beginning of the end. Will it be the end of these liberal nitwits’ careers or the end of our culture? Is this the “hope and change” you folks elected last year? Awake, America, awake!
I don’t know which is worse: Bush looking dumbfounded while reading My Pet Goat to schoolkids and finding out about the 9/11 attacks, or the insensitivity of Obozo when after learning about the worst terror attack in US history on a military base, starts his speech by giving “shout outs” like some blinged-upped dopey rap star on the VMAs. When you see Pelosi more concerned with congratulating the Yankees and rushing through socialized medicine than showing reverence for the dead, something is very wrong.
I almost expected Obozo to give a shout out to Hasan; after all, the shooter was on his transition team.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo!
I wanna give a DC shout out to my main man, Dr Running Scared, that Congessional Medal of whatever winner, …
You da man, you da man!
As an aside, chuckle-chuckle, have y’all heard the one about the dime store Indian who …
Chuckle-chuckle.
Oh yeah, shame about that Fort Hood thing, ain’t it? Why just the other day I was telling my good buddy, Joe The Vice President, that we all just gotta stop jumping to conclusions.
Now, where was I?
(( WTF? ))
47..good comment, thanks
many good comments here!!. The “shout out” crap just sent me screaming!!!
“35. TexEd:
It will be interesting what the Muslim-terrorist loving, ultra-left wing, anti-American, Obama media will do next. They can make excuses for all the Muslim murderers we pick up around the world, but this one was a US soldier, on US territory and arrested by US law enforcement. He’s going to die! Think Timothy McVeigh!”
I honeslt don’t really see him as that much different from Timothy McVeigh.
Hatred of the United States, lashing out at innocents to “avenge” some perceived wrong-doings, motivating his actions by quoting from a stupid book, and betraying the military.
Thanks for a sensitive and thoughtful article, Mr. Owens, one I would like my friends on the left to read the next time they wish to dismiss conservatives as bigots. One downside of being the most inclusive country (by far) in the world is that some dangerous characters will slip in with the rest. But we must not forget the millions of well-acculturated and peace-loving Muslims here or our Muslim allies abroad, as imperfect as the latter may be. It may turn out that Rudyard Kipling was right about the West and Islam. Perhaps we can only be at peace with one another in our separate realms, and perhaps not always then. But let us not rush to that judgment just yet.
On the other hand, we certainly cannot afford the paralysis of a false “sensitivity” when it comes to identifying possible security threats, in or out of the military. We don’t know if that occurred here but it certainly has occurred.
It’s just more of the usual: the authorities knew all about it, and did little or nothing, just as with 9/11.
America unfortunately is hanging herself on her own stupidity, and refusal to call things by their name…
Political correctness kills…
By the way did everyone notice how pathological and borderline with zero feelings Oba Mao was in his prepared response. what a total creep he is.
to #19 Blotto – too right, and let’s not forget the 2002 July 4 attack at the El Al counter at LAX, immediately declared a non-terrorist event by the FBI and then completely shrouded in silence.
When the military talk about ‘taking the war to the enemy’ this is exactly what happened in this case. Nidal wanted out of the army, they refused and instead he was put in a position where he might have to kill fellow Muslims and he knew from his own experience that some (maybe most?) American soldiers are hostile to Muslims to the extent of killing them. So he acted out of sheer rage and anger, but a controlled anger which requires determination to see a job done. I’ve no doubt he was prepared to die for his cause.
Taking the war to the enemy is exactly what Nidal did. Not very convenient when the enemy happens to be yourself, but facts are uncomfortable things and the US should know that it is created enemies and is absolutely hated for what it does around the world. This is why 9/11 happened and it is why Nidal happened.
As long as the US thinks it can just go in and kill people anywhere in the world, so will others just come in and kill Americans. Seems a fair balance to me.
I am a Cuban American, the father of two West Point graduates (Classes of 85 and 88 respectively). Americans are so naive, they have such a “provincial perception of world affair” that they can’t see what is going on in our country. We have 9 million muslims in the United States and muslims are loyal to Islam, not to the United States. To have muslims in the US armed forces is a terrible mistake made by morons!
frankly, i’m kinda sick of muslim zealots and their supporters. i’m kinda sick of the politically correct patter my ears endure re the right “position” towards islam and terrorism. no other group of extremists (and they are everywhere) are pulling this crap, and hiding beyond “God’s will” in the process. So with all due respect to the 1 billion practicing muslims in this world, 99.999999% of whom do not engage in madness, how bout we start calling this for what it is?…..
The role of government is to protect its citizens. When we keep electing people who are not in office to do what is right, but to protect their own supporters and careers, we get this kind of event.
Doing what is right in all of the little ways, adds up to stopping these kinds of tragedies.
Good government will work for us. Bad government where too many decisions are made for political reasons and not because of what is right, hurts us all.
Prudence tells most people not to play with rattlesnakes. Prudence tells us not to drive in strange neighborhoods at night with the doors to the car unlocked. Prudence makes us buy insurance for the things that might happen. Yet when anyone utters the least word of dismay over the increasingly shrill rhetoric by domestic Muslims, we are called bigoted and racist. “If it walks like a duck…” should apply here. We have guy who while treating soldiers for post traumatic stress went into religiously inspired tirades. We have a person who expressed approval for a similar shooting in Arkansas and online comments of support for the idea of suicide bombings. Increasingly he was embracing the more radical flavor of Islam and demonstrating it in his life, his dress and even his actions by handing out Qurans the morning of the shooting. Sorry, but when you see lightening, you should expect thunder. Our leaders expect us to behave blindly and deny facts. This was terrorism. And he’s not the only one. There have been four major incidents in two months. Like labor pains, they are escalating. When will someone start acting like this is serious because it appears our administration can’t be bothered to extract themselves from a meeting with political lobbyists to attend to business.
Obama’s position is that George Bush caused the shootings. His solution will be to take all guns away from our soldiers.
This is the same reason why German-American troops were mostly deployed in the Pacific Front and not in the European Front during WWII.
I’ve read all the comments and I can honestly say I’ve never read so much drooling nonsense in my life. The problem was this guy was not hatred of the military, or America, or Mom’s apple pie, The problem with this jerk-off what that he wasn’t getting any sex. He had displaced his sexual frustration and put it on the military. To me it is obvious this was problem #1 with him. Islam, plus his impending deployment, plus the horror stories he was hearing was the trigger, or rather his rationalization. If this guy had a wife and children, was sexually satisfied and felt like a normal man, none of this would have happened. I’m not trying to make him a victim – he’s a monster nut job that should be burned at the stake – I’d be the first to light the fire. But don’t give me this garbage about sleeper cells and embedded assassins. It was self-esteem issues behind all of this. Islam is one of many religious movements that exploits this kind of frustration. There’s a reason cults tend to separate male and female members. What’s so different between this guy and any other angry loner? Just because he shouts Allah Akhbar he’s different? I can tell you what’s going on inside his head – he’s fighting the great fight for Allah instead of looking into the mirror at the pathetic bald overweight loser he had become. Does he have a wife or girlfriend? Of course not! I guarantee he hasn’t had sex with anyone other than a prostitute in 5 years.
Terrorist sleeper cell? No way! But it makes interesting panic laced stories and sells newspapers, attracts talk show listeners, and gives the cable news junkies another fix.
All the evidence coming out about Hasan shows that there has been a terrible security lapse in the Fort Hood attack. He told associates he was a Muslim first, an American second, and this put him against a war in Iraq or Afghanistan. But his anti-war emotion called for violent action, He likened suicide bombers to self-sacrificing military protecting their buddies. Why wasn’t he on a watch list? Wake up, America.
I am not buying, even for the briefest moment that a MAJOR in the US Army was given much crap, at all, about his faith. That’s not the way we roll with our own. I know such a thing wouldn’t be accepted in the Navy wardrooms. I refuse to believe that the Army is any different (except for during the week leading up to the Army-Navy game, in which I will believe even the worst slander against the Army).
I also refuse to believe that a Major hadn’t yet reconciled himself to deployment. He’s been in the Army since before 9/11. If he was that conflicted, he should have gotten the hell out.
Even before I heard about his postings and all the other evidence, this was enough to convince me that Jihad was the most likely reason for this. All the rest of the evidence still supports that.
As for those who don’t believe that one can be a good Muslim and a good American, I must disagree. Christians have long understood that our own scriptures were written in a different time, with different needs. We are to follow the intent and the timeless principles, even if the details must change. I believe the islamic world can, and should do the same. I have known American Muslims (one of whom I had the privilege of working with during my stint at the shipyard in Newport News) who have done so, with their own beliefs. I’m sure most of the Muslims who bear arms for our nation also have done so.
The real problem is, this reconciliation has not become a big movement, in the same way the Protestant Reformation had (no, that’s not a slap at the Catholics, but rather an illustration of how big of a split would be needed). If we really want to defeat radical islam, we need to have somewhere for the modern muslim to go. Radical islam would then wither on the vine.
Any of y’all have an idear on how to make that happen?
I was unaware that the 2nd Amendment Rights granted by THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES were left at home until you finished your tour of duty.
58. Indeed, we are the enemy to all Muslims. Mr. Hasan was a US soldier, what he did is treason, and his just punishment is death by firing squad plus forfeiture of all his property to the Government.
One of the more brief but powerful scenes at the beginning of 1998’s Saving Private Ryan is when Mrs. Ryan sees a government car slowly approaching her home. She walks out onto her front porch, only to slowly collapse into sobs when she realizes that the unexpected arrival heralds the death of her sons. There are no words in that scene. Some feelings are simply beyond words.
Um, do you actually have any experience with this, or are you just regurgitating what you’ve seen in movies. Hint, life is somewhat different. And before you idiots start with your self-hagiography, I have a son in the military. My feelings, though complicated about the risks he’s taken and the method that he was shanghaid into the service at 17, I certainly wouldn’t compare my feelings to Saving Private Ryan or any other film. That’s the stupidest thing I could imagine doing. Maybe that’s why all you idiots continue to support these wars long after they’re revealed to be a farce, you’re only connection to reality is hollywood.
Moho you slanderous Muslim fifth-columnist:
I bloody well remember those Government cars crawling through the neighborhood, growing up in a military community during Vietnam . Everybody stopped, fell silent, and watched them with dread. And sometimes they stopped at my friends’ houses. So you can just shove your Hollywood crap, and STFU.
You are unworthy of your son.
Not all Muslims are terrorists- but all terrorists are Muslim.
I have an article up on my blog by shooting expert Karl Rehn that talks about the Ft. Hood shooting, what to do in similar situations, and how firearms policies helped contribute to the tragedy:
http://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=64
And let’s not forget that one of the first major American terrorist wasn’t Muslim- he was a quiet little Caucasion man named Timothy who eyed a building in Oklahoma…
So Dr. Hasan was “…a bullied Muslim who was a good person who did not even like weapons,” eh?
Anybody else hear about the fact that according to Roanoke County Circuit court records, he’d obtained a concealed carry (CCW) permit in 1996?
See: http://www.roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/225326