<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The UK Allows Wilders To Speak</title>
	<atom:link href="http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-uk-allows-wilders-to-speak/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-uk-allows-wilders-to-speak/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:02:33 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-uk-allows-wilders-to-speak/#comment-434456</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70338#comment-434456</guid>
		<description>@Paul-Indiana: Thanks, this is a big help.

@Real Deal: I usually don&#039;t sink to their level, but the seriousness with which Ho is addressing something so stupid was too much to resist. It&#039;s out of my system now =)

@Benson: Agreed. That&#039;s what I&#039;m doing. Though it&#039;s kind of sad that someone like Ho has this much time to devote to arguing about the most inane details on the internet and not even the article at hand. Good grief.

What really bothers me is that both London and the US have suffered attacks at the hand of Islamic radicals. And both countries are willingly allowing them to preach their hatred daily and build up Shariah communities. Did you guys see this story about the Denver imam killed in a shootout?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/uscrimeislam

They found a f*cking shooting range inside his mosque. A SHOOTING range inside a holy religious building.

The only reason we haven&#039;t experienced 9/11 #2 is because Homeland Security is on top of their shit after the first one. Not because these monsters aren&#039;t trying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul-Indiana: Thanks, this is a big help.</p>
<p>@Real Deal: I usually don&#8217;t sink to their level, but the seriousness with which Ho is addressing something so stupid was too much to resist. It&#8217;s out of my system now =)</p>
<p>@Benson: Agreed. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m doing. Though it&#8217;s kind of sad that someone like Ho has this much time to devote to arguing about the most inane details on the internet and not even the article at hand. Good grief.</p>
<p>What really bothers me is that both London and the US have suffered attacks at the hand of Islamic radicals. And both countries are willingly allowing them to preach their hatred daily and build up Shariah communities. Did you guys see this story about the Denver imam killed in a shootout?</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/uscrimeislam" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/uscrimeislam</a></p>
<p>They found a f*cking shooting range inside his mosque. A SHOOTING range inside a holy religious building.</p>
<p>The only reason we haven&#8217;t experienced 9/11 #2 is because Homeland Security is on top of their shit after the first one. Not because these monsters aren&#8217;t trying.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Real Deal</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-uk-allows-wilders-to-speak/#comment-434283</link>
		<dc:creator>Real Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70338#comment-434283</guid>
		<description>@ Aaron

Never argue with morons on the internet, they&#039;ll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Its better to ignore the sock puppet trolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Aaron</p>
<p>Never argue with morons on the internet, they&#8217;ll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Its better to ignore the sock puppet trolls.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stephen in Afghanistan</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-uk-allows-wilders-to-speak/#comment-433939</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen in Afghanistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70338#comment-433939</guid>
		<description>#24.....Don&#039;t forget when you say &quot;false prophet, you can also say &quot;child rapist prophet.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24&#8230;..Don&#8217;t forget when you say &#8220;false prophet, you can also say &#8220;child rapist prophet.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Benson</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-uk-allows-wilders-to-speak/#comment-433780</link>
		<dc:creator>Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70338#comment-433780</guid>
		<description>How&#039;s this: everybody ignore Moho; he&#039;s not rational.  There is no calling him on anything, and he has no shame.  Don&#039;t respond, no matter what he says.

Otherwise, this is a good and badly needed discussion, with a lot of information.  That quote from Churchill was trenchant; thanks to Silence Do Good (33).  Jus my view: Muslims who believe the Koran/hadith to be inerrant can never make good citizens of a Western nation, and our civilization is literally in danger.  Reform is desperately needed, especially in the immigration policies of all Western nations.  

Maybe things will have to get a lot worse before someone cleans up the mess.  Heaven help us....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How&#8217;s this: everybody ignore Moho; he&#8217;s not rational.  There is no calling him on anything, and he has no shame.  Don&#8217;t respond, no matter what he says.</p>
<p>Otherwise, this is a good and badly needed discussion, with a lot of information.  That quote from Churchill was trenchant; thanks to Silence Do Good (33).  Jus my view: Muslims who believe the Koran/hadith to be inerrant can never make good citizens of a Western nation, and our civilization is literally in danger.  Reform is desperately needed, especially in the immigration policies of all Western nations.  </p>
<p>Maybe things will have to get a lot worse before someone cleans up the mess.  Heaven help us&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: goy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-uk-allows-wilders-to-speak/#comment-433646</link>
		<dc:creator>goy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70338#comment-433646</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;@55. Moho:&lt;/b&gt; - ... there was a lot of competition ...&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe in one of your crack-induced fantasies.

Otherwise, you have churned out another straw man.

Sad.

Next time just read both pages, click the links if you&#039;re genuinely curious *cough* and STFU when you don&#039;t really have anything to say on topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>@55. Moho:</b> &#8211; &#8230; there was a lot of competition &#8230;</i></p>
<p>Maybe in one of your crack-induced fantasies.</p>
<p>Otherwise, you have churned out another straw man.</p>
<p>Sad.</p>
<p>Next time just read both pages, click the links if you&#8217;re genuinely curious *cough* and STFU when you don&#8217;t really have anything to say on topic.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Moho</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-uk-allows-wilders-to-speak/#comment-433601</link>
		<dc:creator>Moho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70338#comment-433601</guid>
		<description>GOy, there was a lot of competition for dumbest poster, and even Aaron was catching up to you for a while, but you keep showing that you have no understanding of the issue. Its not the links, its saying what the links are and where they&#039;re going. Anyone who doesn&#039;t do that is asking to be called our for shoddy reporting. However, most people would expect someone like Aaron to be making up most of his quotes anyway, and wouldn&#039;t even bother. 


Here&#039;s an example of a blogger who wants to be taken seriously, and, more importantly, has readers who only regard seriously people who follow basic rules of reporting [his hyperlinked text is bolded here]:

&lt;i&gt;Judging from the few times I&#039;ve appeared on that program, Ratigan seems to be making a conscious effort to expand the scope of political debates that take typically place on cable news shows -- debates which are, with rare exception, painfully constricted and formulaic (see his &lt;b&gt;monologue from a couple of weeks ago&lt;/b&gt; on Goldman Sachs as an example of the type of content one does not usually hear on such programs).  Having substantive discussions in formats like this is inherently difficult -- that, paradoxically, is one of the values of the format, for &lt;b&gt;reasons Noam Chomsky best explained here&lt;/b&gt; -- but I think, without knowing for certain, that Ratigan is attempting to conduct less constrained and conventional discussions.  I don&#039;t want to overstate the case -- it&#039;s more just a general and preliminary impression -- but I think it&#039;s worth watching for.&lt;/i&gt;

Just to show he consistently does this, there&#039;s this:

&lt;i&gt;I&#039;m traveling still today, but I wanted to note &lt;b&gt;an amazing Op-Ed&lt;/b&gt; that was referenced in a book I&#039;m reading:  the Op-Ed is by Nikolai Lanine, published in The Toronto Globe and Mail in November, 2006. &lt;/I&gt;

And the day before that:
&lt;i&gt;Hoh&#039;s resignation is remarkable because it entails the sort of career sacrifice in the name of principle that has been so rare over the last decade, but even more so because of the &lt;b&gt;extraordinary four-page letter&lt;/b&gt; (.pdf) he wrote explaining his reasoning.&lt;/i&gt;

You can see all of this for yourself on the home page of his blog, I didn&#039;t have to even look for it. The bare minimum for being considered a reporter and not a gossip or rumor monger [see Michael Ledeen] is clearly noting your sources. 

Interestingly, Greenwald, the blogger, actually defended the right of free speech of people like Wilders in court. As always Goy, all you have is your flatulent rage, and as I said, I don&#039;t feel sorry for you. I don&#039;t mind coming here everyday to make you people look the hypocritical idiots you are. The ease of it creates quite a stress reliever. I especially thank you for that last part, for no one makes it easier than you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOy, there was a lot of competition for dumbest poster, and even Aaron was catching up to you for a while, but you keep showing that you have no understanding of the issue. Its not the links, its saying what the links are and where they&#8217;re going. Anyone who doesn&#8217;t do that is asking to be called our for shoddy reporting. However, most people would expect someone like Aaron to be making up most of his quotes anyway, and wouldn&#8217;t even bother. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example of a blogger who wants to be taken seriously, and, more importantly, has readers who only regard seriously people who follow basic rules of reporting [his hyperlinked text is bolded here]:</p>
<p><i>Judging from the few times I&#8217;ve appeared on that program, Ratigan seems to be making a conscious effort to expand the scope of political debates that take typically place on cable news shows &#8212; debates which are, with rare exception, painfully constricted and formulaic (see his <b>monologue from a couple of weeks ago</b> on Goldman Sachs as an example of the type of content one does not usually hear on such programs).  Having substantive discussions in formats like this is inherently difficult &#8212; that, paradoxically, is one of the values of the format, for <b>reasons Noam Chomsky best explained here</b> &#8212; but I think, without knowing for certain, that Ratigan is attempting to conduct less constrained and conventional discussions.  I don&#8217;t want to overstate the case &#8212; it&#8217;s more just a general and preliminary impression &#8212; but I think it&#8217;s worth watching for.</i></p>
<p>Just to show he consistently does this, there&#8217;s this:</p>
<p><i>I&#8217;m traveling still today, but I wanted to note <b>an amazing Op-Ed</b> that was referenced in a book I&#8217;m reading:  the Op-Ed is by Nikolai Lanine, published in The Toronto Globe and Mail in November, 2006. </i></p>
<p>And the day before that:<br />
<i>Hoh&#8217;s resignation is remarkable because it entails the sort of career sacrifice in the name of principle that has been so rare over the last decade, but even more so because of the <b>extraordinary four-page letter</b> (.pdf) he wrote explaining his reasoning.</i></p>
<p>You can see all of this for yourself on the home page of his blog, I didn&#8217;t have to even look for it. The bare minimum for being considered a reporter and not a gossip or rumor monger [see Michael Ledeen] is clearly noting your sources. </p>
<p>Interestingly, Greenwald, the blogger, actually defended the right of free speech of people like Wilders in court. As always Goy, all you have is your flatulent rage, and as I said, I don&#8217;t feel sorry for you. I don&#8217;t mind coming here everyday to make you people look the hypocritical idiots you are. The ease of it creates quite a stress reliever. I especially thank you for that last part, for no one makes it easier than you.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: goy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-uk-allows-wilders-to-speak/#comment-433523</link>
		<dc:creator>goy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70338#comment-433523</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;@53. Moho:&lt;/b&gt; - The only reason we’re still talking about is that you all continue to posit that its ok to print quotes without noticeable citations.&lt;/i&gt;

No, that&#039;s just the pretense you keep using to whine about it.

No one but you seems to have had any problem finding and following the &lt;i&gt;noticeable&lt;/i&gt;, linked &lt;i&gt;citation&lt;/i&gt;, &#039;ho.

Here&#039;s a tip, nimrod: your browser can be configured to highlight hyperlinks. You can even pick the color!! Look it up in the manual, and quit blaming other people for your stupid mistakes. And next time, read BOTH pages of the article before you start your obtuse rants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>@53. Moho:</b> &#8211; The only reason we’re still talking about is that you all continue to posit that its ok to print quotes without noticeable citations.</i></p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s just the pretense you keep using to whine about it.</p>
<p>No one but you seems to have had any problem finding and following the <i>noticeable</i>, linked <i>citation</i>, &#8216;ho.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a tip, nimrod: your browser can be configured to highlight hyperlinks. You can even pick the color!! Look it up in the manual, and quit blaming other people for your stupid mistakes. And next time, read BOTH pages of the article before you start your obtuse rants.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Moho</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-uk-allows-wilders-to-speak/#comment-433439</link>
		<dc:creator>Moho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70338#comment-433439</guid>
		<description>It continues to be hilarious. Because there is some dispute about the issues, one can argue one way or the other. But there&#039;s no dispute about how shoddily this article was written, literally inviting people to assume that most of the quotes were fabrications. Again, for the thinking impaired--it doesn&#039;t matter that they weren&#039;t. The whole point of standards for reporting is convincing people that you&#039;re at least, credible: that is, that someone actually said the things you say they did. There&#039;s no argument that this article falls well short. The only reason we&#039;re still talking about is that you all continue to posit that its ok to print quotes without noticeable citations. Unless you&#039;re all saying that Pajamas Media, even as they point the finger at the rest of the media for being biased and unprofessional, is allowed to forego the most minimal standards of veracity.

Still laughing about it. You people are something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It continues to be hilarious. Because there is some dispute about the issues, one can argue one way or the other. But there&#8217;s no dispute about how shoddily this article was written, literally inviting people to assume that most of the quotes were fabrications. Again, for the thinking impaired&#8211;it doesn&#8217;t matter that they weren&#8217;t. The whole point of standards for reporting is convincing people that you&#8217;re at least, credible: that is, that someone actually said the things you say they did. There&#8217;s no argument that this article falls well short. The only reason we&#8217;re still talking about is that you all continue to posit that its ok to print quotes without noticeable citations. Unless you&#8217;re all saying that Pajamas Media, even as they point the finger at the rest of the media for being biased and unprofessional, is allowed to forego the most minimal standards of veracity.</p>
<p>Still laughing about it. You people are something else.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Carlos Caliente</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-uk-allows-wilders-to-speak/#comment-433380</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Caliente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70338#comment-433380</guid>
		<description>MOHO: Obviously you are a very sad and sick creature, all the negativity and outright insulting lies you spew forth are classic traits of an abused childhood. Your mama never gave you the love you needed, most likely your daddy unknown, you are angry at yourself because you have been an underachiever all your life. I will pray for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MOHO: Obviously you are a very sad and sick creature, all the negativity and outright insulting lies you spew forth are classic traits of an abused childhood. Your mama never gave you the love you needed, most likely your daddy unknown, you are angry at yourself because you have been an underachiever all your life. I will pray for you.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: goy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-uk-allows-wilders-to-speak/#comment-433377</link>
		<dc:creator>goy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70338#comment-433377</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;@50. Moho:&lt;/b&gt; - This was especially hilarious coming from someone who doesn’t have the most minimal grasp about how to write a paper for peer review.&lt;/i&gt;

This is especially hilarious coming from someone incapable of writing a simple comment without the assistive aid of a straw man or other fallacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>@50. Moho:</b> &#8211; This was especially hilarious coming from someone who doesn’t have the most minimal grasp about how to write a paper for peer review.</i></p>
<p>This is especially hilarious coming from someone incapable of writing a simple comment without the assistive aid of a straw man or other fallacy.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

