The Two Essential Questions Regarding Palestinian Statehood
When the PLO was founded in 1964, “liberation” included all of Israel. In 1974, the UN granted the PLO non-state diplomatic status; its mission was, and is, to “liberate Palestine.” All of it. That goal has not changed.
In 1988, when the Palestine National Council on behalf of the PLO — “the sole representative of the Palestinian people” — declared a state of Palestine, they referred to UN Resolution 181 (passed in 1947) which suggested a division of British Mandate Palestine. Arabs had refused to recognize Israel then, and still do.
Palestinian leaders say that they recognize the fact of Israel’s existence, but not its right to exist as a sovereign Jewish state; they reject not only the idea of Jewish nationalism but its historical, ideological, and legal basis. This is explicit in the PLO and Hamas charters and the “temporary Basic Law” of the Palestinian Authority, which affirms “the national and historical rights of the Palestinian people” according to the PLO.
In 1993, Yassir Arafat agreed to recognize Israel as part of the Oslo Accords, supposedly meaning the armistice lines of 1949 — at least temporarily. When the PA was established in 1994 to represent Palestinians in Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) and the Gaza Strip and to administer areas under their control, the premise was that Palestinian leaders accepted Israel as a legitimate partner. Time has revealed this to be a ploy. The PLO, which represents Palestinians at the UN and foreign missions, never ratified the Oslo Accords, the Declaration of Principles (DOP), or any other agreements which included recognition of Israel.
The DOP was not a peace treaty, but an agreement to work towards a final end-of-conflict solution and establish the Palestinian Authority. Who, then, is in control now, and who will be in control in the future?
Advocates of statehood — entranced by new building projects, improved quality of life, and the rhetoric of “ending the occupation” — don’t talk about the obligations and risks that sovereign independence entails. Despite rosy depictions, basic Palestinian institutions — security, judicial, educational, and environmental – don’t function adequately, or properly. Weak and fragile, this infrastructure could easily collapse, inviting regional implosion and chaos. PA courts are a farce. PA schools have failed. The PA has refused to cooperate with Israel to build sewage and water-treatment facilities. The PA economy is dependent on massive amount of foreign aid.
Without incursions into PA-controlled areas to arrest terrorists and to build roadblocks and checkpoints to stop would-be attackers, Israelis would face another bloodbath.
There will be no peace as long as the Palestinians are controlled by Hamas and Hezbollah. Never. These groups are determined to destroy Israel, not to co-exist with it. And as long as the Palestinians don’t denounce and separate themselves from the religious fanatics in those to terrorist organizations, there will be no Palestinian state. When are anti-semitic world leaders like Obama going to get that?
You make good points, but I would change “There will be no peace as long as the Palestinians are controlled by Hamas and Hezbollah.” to There will be no peace as long as the Palestinians are controlled by Arabs. A Palestinian state has existed since the UN declared the state of Israel. The Arabs simply want it all.
•The unceasing efforts among states by the leadership of the Palestinian Authority to attain recognition of unilateral statehood within the 1967 borders and thereby bypass the accepted negotiation process, runs counter to their commitments in their agreements with Israel, as witnessed and guaranteed by members of the international community.
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A Palestinian state next to Israel will be used as a base, to launch the final attack to destroy Israel. Peace talks are just so much smoke and mirrors by world diplomats, and will accomplish nothing.
What we’re dealing with here is a massive game of “let’s pretend”. Let’s pretend that Palestinians are more interested in an independent state alongside Israel rather than one in place of Israel. Let’s pretend such a state will be demilitarized, rather than one that will be free to arm for a final battle against the infidel Jews. Let’s pretend that the PA is a legitimate government, rather than one whose mandate has expired. Let’s pretend that the PA has both the will to make an “end of conflict” deal with Israel and the ability to enforce it against opposition forces, when clearly it has neither. Let’s pretend that a Palestinian state will be economically viable, rather than one ever dependent on foreign aid. Let’s pretend that the Palestinians will give up their demand that Israel allow itself to be flooded by Arab refugees claiming a “right of return” when they daily insist they will never do so.
For some promoting these delusions it’s ignorance or willful blindness. For others, it’s cover for real-politics. Muslims outnumber Jews 100 to 1. There are 57 OIC states, 22 Arab League states, and only one Jewish state – and the latter doesn’t have oil.
As long as the Paleostinians are guided by islam, there will never be peace with Israel. The are too many instances in the koran that depicts Jews as dirty and/or evil that to be subjugated or killed. And in the event Israel is defeated, the muslims will turn to other non-muslim countries and start the process all over again. The koran demands it.
Currently, most if not all, of the funding is being paid by Western nations.
The solution to the West Bank/Gaza issue is to cut off foreign aid, cut of electricity and water from Israel, and tell them to get it from their Arab neighbors or build it themselves. Less money to spend on weapons if they are spending it on surviving.
There is but a single official platform in the Hamas “government:” The absolute destruction of all Jews from the entire region (not just the mythical land of “Palestine.”)
@#6 Tyler
Where did you get ‘region’ from Tyler?
There is no such restriction in The Charter of Hamas.
Therefore, the whole world is their target;
and their Nazi co-conspirators (al Husseini et al)
have given them the word to describe it.
How do you say JUDENREIN in arabic?
“The Palestinian people does not exist…Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a ‘Palestinian people’…to oppose Zionism ”
- Yasser Arafat, 1977
There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” nation.
There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” state.
There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” kingdom.
There were never in the history of the world “Palestinian” kings.
There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” capital.
There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” essence.
There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” heritage.
There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” culture.
And if a “Palestinian” state is created (with or without Israeli recognition and assent), its purpose will solely to serve as a fulcrum for levering regional war against Israel, based on inter-state offense rather than “humanitarian” grounds as are available now.
Ergo, such a state will not be created (or declared, more likely), unless or until the major regional powers align against Israel. That is, USA neutered, and sufficient arsenal directed to “ensure” a final solution.
–JC
Why in the world would Palestinian Arabs want to do the hard work of building a state when the one the Jews already built is there for the taking? Who wouldn’t want to take Tel Aviv, Ben Gurion (renamed “Yasser Arafat”) Airport?
palestinians, even the ones who are Israeli citizens will not accept Israel’s legitimacy or the right of Jews to exist in Israrl or anywhere else. The koran forbids them to do do. After the Palestinians establish the newest dysfunctional and corrupt arab state, Israel must unilaterally secure boundaries that recognize and enhance national security. Thus should be accomplished without regard for the bigots at the united nations or the genocidal sociopaths in the islamic world.
MD writes: “When the PLO was founded in 1964, “liberation” included all of Israel.”
It included only Israel. Nothing but Israel. the PLO was basically non-active against Jordan in Judea and Samaria. Communists, though, rioted in Jalazoun and Jerusalem but earlier. Once PLO appeared it was only directed solely at Israel
End the Excessively Cruel Arab Muslim Occupation of Biblical Judea & Samaria!
Non Muslims must have human rights!
In a massive victory for Islam, against their will, Arab Christians were cruelly placed under brutal occupation of PLO/Palestinian Authority. In the filthy Islamic Invasion of Church of Nativity in Bethlehem, Judea, Muslims tore up BIBLES for toilet paper.
Christian majority towns, Bethlehem & Nazareth are now majority Muslim – terrified Christians were driven out by cruel Islamic persecution. Many Bethlehem Christians’ homes and land were stolen by Muslims. The Christians who remain, live in constant fear. US/EU/UN are silent about the suffering and terrible persecution of Jews, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and other non-Muslims, by Islam.
US/EU/UK/UN have a moral obligation to end the cruel Muslim occupation of Judea and Samaria. The PHONY peace process has destroyed all peace and all security and created enormous suffering, injuries, disabilities and deaths for both Jews and Christians. It is a huge triumph for global jihad.
Stop the SURRENDER to global jihad!
The Palestinian kingdom of Jordan is the perfect palestinian state .
Unilaterally established on 3/4 of the original Mandate of palestine which was originally offered to the sole Jewish People by the now infamous “international community” in 1920,this palestinian state is peopled by 80 % of palestinians and is prohibited to Jewish settlement .
The queen is Rania ,a beautiful and antisemitic palestinian lady spitting on Israel whereas dozens of her female fellow citizens die each year in “honor crimes”
“What do Palestinian leaders really want?”
More.
Sounds like PA reject the idea of immigration. Let’s show our solidarity by booting every muslim right out of the United States. We wouldn’t want anyone to compromise their Palestinian supporting values now would we?
Islam: Palestinian Refugee Camps
Enforced Misery: The PA and the Balata ‘Refugee’ Camp
by Abraham H. Miller
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/enforced-misery-the-pa-and-the-balata-refugee-camp/
You guys all state how bad the state of palestinian society is and how a palestinian state won’t work. But you don’t have any solution to the problem. You are no different then the palestinian extremists..The only thing you both care about is power and money for your weak self confidence!
Since my last comment was rejected I will repost a friendlier version. My comment is that, everyone speaks about how bad the Palestinians are and how they cannot manage schooling let alone a state but yet offer no REAL solution. Expelling the Palestinians is not a solution nor is removing the elected government. So what should be done in the plight of the Palestinians?
Its not about land its never been about land. Mohammedans just INVENTED Palestinians (i reality just Mohammedan ARAB Invaders) and the moonbats in their sublime Islamophile stupidity lapped it up. The Mohammedan INVADERS already have over 80% and TWO States Jordan and Syria so to PRETEND they need land is just stupid. No Mohammedans just want to destroy Isreal and kill Jews.
Saborte,
The solution is SO self evident that I don’t know why I have to state it – but I will. The answer is work, and the example is Israel.
The Palestinians have to forget about terror and violence and the hatred of Jews and actually start to work to make their own lives better. You would think that with the billions of dollars that they have received in aid they would be in a better position but they are not, because of their leaders’ corruption and their spending on weapons to kill Jews.
They already have Gaza. If they now said okay we lost the wars what are you prepared to give us instead of the ridiculous insistence on the “right of return” and a Palestinian state in the whole of the west bank with east Jerusalem as it’s capital, that would be a basis for the end of the conflict if it was seen to be sincere. Will it happen ? Of course not!