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The Socialist Revolution Has Come to America

Remember those heady days of 2008 when Barack Obama successfully painted himself as a moderate?

by
Matt Patterson

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December 21, 2009 - 12:05 am
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The socialist revolution has come to America. It has been a long time coming.

On Christmas Day 1991, the Soviet flag flying over the Kremlin came down — the Cold War was over. In the United States, the political left, dismayed from the collapse of its great patron, retrenched and transmogrified with the times, choosing for their president a free-trading, welfare-reforming moderate.

But this was but a feint; the era of big government was not over. The left had not learned its lesson, had not abandoned its dreams of absolute control. It seethed and stewed … and waited.

The new century dawned in fire when the twin towers came down. America lashed out, sending large armies into Asia and Arabia. Like all wars, fortunes waxed and waned. But the iPod generation has not the capacity to endure the waning. By the time Mesopotamia was stabilizing, it was too late; the American public had abandoned the war it had once supported. The commander-in-chief who took America into battle with Congress and the people behind him left office ridiculed and reviled.

Many will tell you that it was the financial crisis that led to the election of Obama in 2008. It is certainly true that John McCain’s erratic response to that meltdown did nothing to enhance his chances. But the Republican goose was cooked long before Lehman by years of war, seemingly endless reports of our soldiers struggling valiantly to hold back chaos in faraway lands for reasons that were growing less clear by the day, and a Republican president who seemed frighteningly inarticulate and uncomprehending throughout. The public had simply had enough.

Into this breech stepped a charming, charismatic, seemingly moderate Democrat (he even promised tax cuts!). Barack Obama made everyone feel good — about him, about themselves, about themselves for supporting him. And America wanted, needed to feel good again; they had spilled too much blood, had too much of their own blood spilled, in the preceding eight years.

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146 Comments, 146 Threads

  1. 1. Pedrosito

    Spot on Mr.Patterson. In 2008 we decided to destroy ourselves. Argentina did it in the early part of the 20th century and it has never recovered. Grab a beer or more and watch, this experiment in self governance is at an end. The fiscal debacle will be upon us sooner then most people realize.

  2. 2. brian

    Only people who weren’t paying attention saw him as a “centrist” or “moderate”.

    People who really listened and payed attention knew what he was.
    None of this is surprising to us.

  3. 3. John Brown

    I fear it may be close.

    Do we have a fall back? is it Texas?

    I ask everyone to chime in… It may be pick up and go time soon. The media is Charlie.

    Shall we all agree to go to Texas if the SHTF?

  4. 4. Rog

    The US has been a socialist country since at least the 1930s so what it is experiencing now is hardly a revolution. The existing two political parties disagree only at the margins of what sliver of freedoms people will be allowed to retain. The system itself has become too corrupt to salvage. Consider, if a politician stood on a street corner handing hundred dollar bills to voters in order to secure their vote it would be considered a crime. Let the same politician stand on the corner and tell the same people that after he is elected he will give them a hundred dollars from the public treasury and it’s considered politics as normal. Any system that treats those two situations differently is not even consistent in itself let alone viable. The US constitution remains the best foundation of government man has achieved but now it would indeed take a revolution to return to it.

  5. 5. LeighB

    And this is another reason the curiosity about the birth certificate continues…why does he look so much like another famous man? Don’t know if the gossip/speculation has any merit but it sheds more light on his politics.

  6. Obama lied and Democracy died. Welcome to the People’s Republic of the United States, comrade. Don’t worry about health care. Everyone will get the same crappy medical care they got in the Soviet Union. No need to worry about buying a house. Everyone will live in a nice, small, apartment, where four people can certainly live comfortably in a two room apartment. No need to worry about how much retailers are making at Christmas, because nobody will have any money left to buy anything. Like the way public schools are run in Detroit, Washington, DC, or New York City? Good, because that’s the way it’s going to be for the rest of the country. Enjoy having no military defense to speak of? Great, because we’re already bowing to Saudi Kings and Japanese Emperors, so we really don’t need to stand up to any tyrants. The next time we’re attacked like on 9/11, just tell al Qaeda we have good health insurance. We’ll certainly need it, because there will be a lot of maimed and wounded Americans lying around. And, with the United Nations taking care of all of our security needs, who really needs those pesky carrier battle groups, right? After all, there is health care to pay for, right? And you like being unemployed? Well welcome to America, friend, because you’ll love a constant 10% unemployment rate for the rest of your life. Who needs those nasty, money-grubbing corporations, anyway. Let them move to Vietnam or Mexico. We’ve got plenty of manufacturing jobs right here in the United States, right? If you really need a job, you can always go to Government Motors (GM to those of you outside of Michigan) where I’m sure they’ll find a nice, cushy, union job for you. And I just love the idea of handing over 70% of everything I make (if you factor in Federal, State, and local taxes) to the government. It really gives me an incentive to run out there and start a corporation to hire more heavily-taxed Americans. Workers of the World unite, you have nothing to lose but democracy! Now that’s doesn’t sound so bad, does it?

  7. 7. rose

    I am sad to say but this is the truth. I do not give up easily. I will fight AGAINST this for myself, my children and my grandchildren. I only hope the american people will wake up to see what is really happening. I’v sent this website to all my family and many of my friends. WE MUST TURN THIS BACK AND WORK FOR FREEDOM!

  8. 8. blotto

    Enough with the analyzing of how this happened already. Let’s start writing about ways to fix this mess.

    How can we energize a lethargic public where 52% actively seek to be dependent upon the government? How do we overcome the sycophantic press and shills in academia who actively support the takeover of our nation by leftist radicals? How do we overcome the burearucratic inertia of bloated government agencies who mostly support a leftist regime? And how do we convice an already indoctrinated public that this is not the America our veterans fought for in WWII and who provided us with the backbone to make this nation the best on earth.

  9. 9. Mike2

    Spot on article Matt Patterson and a timely warning for us all. Obama might have painted himself as a moderate during the general election but we could all see the real Obama during the primaries. Anyone who heard his speech in Berlin in the summer of 08 knew what the man really believed. I listened to the speech and when he was elected, received the news with a heavy sense of foreboding because I knew that this election was not for the good of this nation.

    America is now at a real crossroads and the elections of 2010 basically will determine the future of our Republic. I fear that those of us that value our freedoms are outnumbered and where do we turn? The Republican Party has gotten a real shock but is still a “broken reed”.

    If we, the voting public, vote the same old corrupt politicians back in this next year we are finished as a free nation.

  10. 10. Not So!

    Americans are different.

    In the beginning they told the odds of history to get lost, formed a new nation out of themselves, then turned around and stomped the aforementioned odds of history into the permanent oblivion we now know as England.

    Americans today are fed up with the endless stream of smart mouthed, instant self gratification ignorance and stupidity that gushers non-stop from the left while at the same time putting up with the ever so calm, quasi-intellectual, professional, smooth talking epitaphs of imminent doom put forth by “Rot-Gut Thinker” written articles like this one.

    Bottom Line: The cocky socialists on the left and the puffy cheek mumblers on the right both feel that they have the upper hand, but they better buckle up because all things political are going to get real rough, real fast, very soon for all of them.

  11. 11. pelaut

    Well done, well said. And yes, we are toast. Deservedly so.

  12. 12. another chuck

    There was one more ingredient to the perfect storm that blew this unworthy man into the White House. It was the damn GOP. In ’04 the country gave them a chance to show how what prudent and limited government could do. They blew it, flagrantly, incompetently, sordidly. There must be something in the Potomac drinking water that makes good people go bad.

    So here we are. I wish I was confident that we can undo the damage in the ’10 elections, but I’m not. Probably it’s our lot to be happy dependents and retainers of a perpetual-political machine, our memory of once having been free-born Americans numbed by a mixture of bribes and coercions.

  13. 13. Rich Vail

    The attack on America has really only just begun. This is the end of the beginning and we’ll see much more over the next two years. In 2012 Mr. Obama will suddenly morph into a moderate once more and attempt to be re-elected. Unfortunately, it’s the damage done over the next two years that matters. While the bill that authorizes government seizure of health care still has a ways to go, it is very possible that it will, in the end be passed.

    What is the most important aspect is that this is the largest single tax increase in American history. Additionally, if it is passed, it will be along strictly partisan party lines only. So the Democratic Party will own this legislation lock stock and barrel. When the American people, who oppose this measure by a poll average of 57% against to 37% for, will (unless the GOP blow it, which ain’t beyond possibility) barring some “emergency” post-ponement of next Novemember’s national election, hammer the Dems at the polls.

    At this point, I don’t discount post-ponement of next fall’s election. Remember, Adolf Hitler was a SOSCIALIST, and took power legally. Mr. Obama already has thugs in waiting in the SEIU who already have a history of beating those who oppose The One’s will (St. Louis & So Cal). During the campaign, Mr. Obama said he wanted to form a civilian “corps that is as well funded as the military”…what is that but a new brown-shirt organization.

    We live in interesting times…but I for one, could do without it.

  14. 14. marsouin

    The same people whose policies have given us the urban ghetto, the current financial catastrophe, and “man-made” global warming, are now about to take even MORE control of our health care. And the elites, along with the MSM are cheering it on. I feel like Charlton Heston landing in the Planet of the Apes: the world has gone mad.

  15. 15. ehunter

    Very Simple Test for ALL Liberals.
    Pick up a phone.
    Call any individual Govt office here in DC..(not the switchboard)
    on any workday. Any office..GSA, Dept of Labor, HHS, HUD,
    Dept of Interior, …ANY GOVT OFFICE DURING WORK HOURS

    Out of 100 phone calls 85 will never go through. Again, 85% of the time will get an answering machine..telling you “they just stepped away from their desk”..etc. They are “in a meeting” is another one. Govt employees
    have
    30 sick days a year
    30 vacation days a year
    All major and minor holidays.
    Every Friday they are off.
    They are out of the building by 3:00PM

    NOW TELL ME..HOW IS THIS RACKET GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE INDIVIDUAL HEALTH NEEDS OF 300 MILLION HUMAN BODIES?

    INSANE..ABSOULTELY INSANE

  16. 16. David Thomson

    “But Americans didn’t want to hear it and the media obliged them.”

    The politically correct John McCain also obliged them. Never forget that he adamantly refused to rebuke Barack Obama for his long established relationship with Rev. Jeremiah Wright. This horrifying blunder guaranteed the GOP candidate’s defeat. McCain barely even wanted to mention Bill Ayers and Obama’s other unsavory allies. The Republican standard bearer only had to start taking Obama to task some time in May of 2008—-and by the middle of September Obama’s campaign would have been finished. The Majority of voters would have deemed him too risky to trust with the presidency. Shelby Steele wrote an insightful work, A Bound Man: Why We Are Excited About Obama and Why He Can’t Win. The thesis was right on target! Unfortunately, John McCain was unwittingly a naïve and racially guilt tripped ally of the Obama campaign.

  17. 17. Pedrosito

    How are we going to have an economic recovery if more money is taken from us for Obamacare? This bill mandates almost immediate increases in premiums at a time when we are slowly gaining a small amount of economic growth. This is pure insanity!

  18. 18. Cromwell

    I find the under- and overtones of despair and surrender here almost as disturbing as what Obama is trying to do to this country.

    No one’s willing to fight? Everyone just wants to curl up in a little ball and get rolled into the dustbin by these scum?

    If you folks are surrendering this quick, then you’re ready for Obama’s chains. Myself, I have no intention of doing so, now or ever.

  19. “But the iPod generation has not the capacity to endure the waning…”

    BS. The problem was not the “iPod generation” but the leftist Boomers who trotted out — once more — their Vietnam myth and dedicated themselves to the defeat of the United States.

  20. “There must be something in the Potomac drinking water that makes good people go bad.”

    It’s the permanent political class that lives in DC and cycles between working as Congressional staffers and lobbyists. The elected office-holders are largely puppets for them.

  21. 21. Thomas_L.......

    You are poisoning the planet with YOUR every move. Ours are necessary in order to better control yours. That’s about it. Speaking of, The Lives of Others. Great film. See it!

  22. 22. tommyd

    Remember back on election day 2008. Remember the voting exit interviews done. Remember the “cool” people that got all jazzed up just to be voting for Teleprompter Jesus.

    Ah yes I remember their responses to the questions asked.

    You know , the really hard questions like..
    Which party currently controls congress?
    Who is the current Vice President?
    Who is Sec. of Defense?
    Name one Supreme Court Judge.
    Name the 3 branches of government.

    I saw voter after voter that when asked these questions just scratched their pointed little heads because they could not answer but maybe 1 correctly…

    Yes it was the “cool ” thing to do, voting for obie … not that they really knew what the F they were doing.

    I would have to think they still think every thing is cool.

    Oh well, as long as they can go to wal-mart in their pajamas and buy a flat screen T.V.and pick up the newest latest cell phone every year they will be happy…
    or when they get out of school, that mommie & daddy paid for, and start paying taxes they will begin their real education in life and find out it’s really not like their leftist college professor made it out to be..

    Someday their kids and grand kids will be sitting around the kitchen table trying to figure out how they will pay their taxes and be discussing how their parents could have been so freaking stupid.

    Seen any Obama bumper stickers lately??

    Mean while congress has lost their collective minds…

  23. 23. adnerb

    We need to continue to fight. We can’t do anything else. Remember that the only constant is change. The Germans no longer have Hitler; the Italians no longer have Mussolini; the Spanish no longer have Franco. Everything (and everyone) passes away. It is very easy to give in to despair, but we are in the majority. Even if an absolute dictatorship comes to AmeriKKKa, we must continue to fight just like those in the Russian underground.

    Socialism contains no incentive to work and no system of checks and balances, thus guaranteeing abuse of power. Socialists do not take into account human nature, including the tendency of people to like handouts, to abuse power and the refreshing incentive that comes when people can run their own lives. Socialists prefer instead to force some unattainable and inflexible ideal down everybody’s throat in the name of “social justice.” Because they and only they are right, there is no feedback system, no flexibility, and no other point of view. This system fails every time because it does not accept life as it is. The Communists and the progressives have taken time to bring us down, and it may take time for freedom-loving people to get rid of it, but it will eventually fail.

    This country has a great foundation, unlike many other countries. We actually have a blueprint for how to successfully run the country unlike, say, tribal groups in Afghanistan. We intuitively understand abuse of power, and, although others do as well, I don’t think that Americans will fatalistically accept it.

    Keep fighting. Send faxes all week. There are lawyers who will challenge the constitutionality of this legislation on the basis of overreach (legislation which goes far beyond the problem it was intended to fix). Americans will think of solutions. This is our Dunkirk. Keep up the good work.

  24. 24. AQUA

    Those who voted for Obama who are not on the extreme left themselves, and who are now “shocked,” ought to do some deep self-reflection and never, never allow themselves to be gullible sheep again.

    The fact is that our system, with all its faults, is the best the world has seen. But don’t ever take it for granted — it is vulnerable to destruction. Complacency and the belief that it is so strong that it will stand no matter what — is the enemy. It must be respected, nurtured and protected by We The People or it will be (may already be) lost forever. Never again allow its strengths to be stretched and stretched at every whim, fancy and false idea, until the “fundamentals” are paper thin, and finally gone.

    Now the next “fundamental” to be challenged is going to be the First Amendment and Freedom of Speech. Subsidized newspapers, oh yeah. And the O has already not only signed us onto — but actually co-sponsored — a U.N. agreement to limit speech, criminalizing criticism of “religion” (guess which one). Of course, it can’t be law here — Yet. But it’s on the way. You know, International Cooperation and a twisted version of Rule of Law and all he spews out. You didn’t know? Why Not?

    It was clear from the early days of his campaign, that this man was going to be extremely destructive to everything the non-leftist, overwhelming majority of Americans — including most Democrats — hold dear.

    Although, by his “words” and his ambiguity, he was attempting to sell himself as a “moderate,” it was sooooo absolutely and unquestionably clear that he was coming from the Extreme Radical Left. Anyone who was of a mind to examine the man by his past would have had to have blinders on not to have seen it. Were you “in denial” or what?

    ANY ONE of the many, many revelations, that appeared in blogs and on Fox easily confirmed this.

    In addition, two interviews on NON-Fox TV made his intentions clear.

    One, in which he said that it didn’t matter if lowering taxes actually brought more revenue into the Federal coffers — what mattered was (his interpretation of) “fairness.”

    The Second, where he stated that he was going to close down the coal industry, and that, of course, would cause energy prices to skyrocket.

    There was also universal coverage of his statement to Joe the Plumber that we should “share the wealth,” and his speech telling us that “You Can’t just drive any car you like, or eat as much as you want, or keep your homes at 72 degrees.”

    What on earth did you think these statements indicated — a moderate??? Did this give you the impression that he would give a damn what the majority of We The People would be in favor of or against — like for instance in Health Care or wealth destroying Cap and Trade?

    Did you think that his wife’s statement — that this is the “first time” she was “proud of her country” — an opinion so heavy in extreme radical leftist anti-Americanism — would not be shared by the man she was living with?

    Did you ever hear him (except for the occasional qualified and without any of his usual enthusiasm) speak highly of or praise this Nation? Oh, yes, he (with reluctance, if you listened closely) “conceded” that he realized America had given a man with his modest background the opportunity to have gotten where he has — but then his wife did say, it was the “first time” after all.

    There was the audio circulating the Internet of his disparaging the Constitution as being inadequate in that it only contained what the government could not do. That he preferred that it would contain what the government “must do for” citizens — and that blah, blah, Community Action blah blah REVOLUTIONARY CHANGE. (Now there’s a hint!)

    How could you expect him to “Protect and Defend” what he has little respect for, appreciation for, and as far as I’m concerned, even understanding of.

    Not just Wright, Ayers and Khalidi, but ALL of his associations were with radicals of one type or another. (Were there ANY associations he had or projects you heard about that he had done with truly “Centrists” or “Moderate” types? Any at all? No.)

    How far did you have to deceive yourselves to fall for his story of not knowing what Wright was preaching after 20 years? Did you know that Wright’s church — he was a member don’t forget — was dedicated to Black Liberation Theology which is socialist and race-biased — one could even easily say, racist? If you didn’t, Why Not?

    Didn’t it disturb you that all of his records from his Chicago office disappeared — where he had voted “present” a hundred and something times? Or that not one bit of his writing while at University was available — even though he was the “Editor” of the Harvard Review? And that he refused to release his grades?

    Did you know there was a video of a speech he gave at a party for Rashid Khalidi which the L.A.Times refused to release because it would be damaging to him? What do you suppose it revealed? Something innocuous perhaps?

    The man lied with a straight face over and over — obvious lies — knowing the MSM would never call him on it. And NOT the kind of fudging and spin most politicians do — outright lies about what his intentions and plans were — and he had zero compunctions about just simply either denying what he had previously said, or giving some obviously measly “I really meant …” when he’d contradicted himself — sometimes the very next day! (By the way, that’s right out of Alinsky. Say whatever you have to to get the power — the point is to get inside to do what you will “from within.”)

    Did you know about the $50 Million Chicago Annenberg Challenge (for education) he worked on with Ayres, that totally failed to improve the scholastic levels of the students because the program was geared to politicizing the children instead of giving them the skills that would improve their lives? Why Not?

    Did you know, the man who was being sold as the “savior” and for the “poor,” granted state money to and made deals with the Rezko crew for improvement of a Chicago housing project — left those poor people freezing in the winter and living in broken down (unrepaired) buildings, while Rezko made a fortune on it? Rezko, the man who is in prison now — who did a deal to help the O buy his Chicago mansion?

    Why not? Or, if you did, didn’t you think these might be an indication of at least his character and abilities?

    His Alinsky connection. His ACORN connection. It goes on and on, and deeper and deeper at every turn.

    In 2007, he proposed a bill that would commit us to transfer almost $1 Trillion of our money under the U.N. Global Poverty Act. Moderate? If you didn’t know about it, WHY NOT? The information was readily available.

    And, to top it all off, he TOLD US that he was a deceiver. In his book and in several statements he made, he said outright, that people saw in him what they wanted to see. Isn’t it clear that this is only possible in one who deliberately makes himself vague and ambiguous.

    Finally — what the #*^! did you think he meant by “Fundamentally Changing America!”????

    What we have in the White House is now much worse than “socialism.” It’s the kind of very dangerous, very embroiled alliances with huge corporations combining extreme regulation with government influence. Czars with no Congressional oversight. A combination of Extreme Radical Ideologues and Crooks — following Alinsky guidelines — which have zero, zero scruples — and is all about accumulating and weilding unemcumbered POWER.

    The O gang should never be called “Liberals” again. They are not. They are Extreme Radical Leftists and should always be referred to as such.

    Watch one (in two parts) of the David Horowitz Restoration Weekend Videos here:
    David Horowitz, Pat Caddell (A Democrat!) and Scott Wheeler

    http://www.blip.tv/file/2897214/

    The rest of the videos of speakers (especially Newt) are excellent as well:

    http://www.davidhorowitztv.com/restorationweekend/rw2009

    Don’t do it again. Vote them out of power in 2010 and 2012 — it’s still possible.

  25. 25. Richard A.

    Cue the music for the next American Revolution.

  26. 26. Pedrosito

    #18 – So tell me what do you propose to do to fight this abomonation? You can’t! So many of you people talk tough on the internet but you, like the folks on radio talk shows have zip,zero,nada influence on the politicdians in DC.

    In 2008 the American people voted for their demise because they didn’t want to learn about the real Obama, they wanted to hope he was a figure the MSN had promoted. We are more like europeons now and the senate dems know that.

  27. 27. KevinButterfield

    We need to be resolved foremost on the terms that drive motivation of the heart and will. Do not think that terms like Judgment, Justice, and Liberty are perspective-based. They have definite meanings, and implications. Liberals have adjusted the gears in the gear-box of Understanding to move in different directions, and to have different emphasis. But they have left the covering. Changing the cover is the final phase, and one phase grades into the next. The covering is now being unfastened.

    They will say that as long as the machine works then the placement of the gears is irrelevant. Is this all superficial? Vanity of vanities, everything is vanity [for earthly men] says the Bible; but, we DO fight for what we know is right despite man’s physical disposition to vanity. Is it ever right to steal? No, but sometimes it may appear to be right if one uses the right wording, perhaps even says it is a vengeance (meaning, ultimately, justication). Redistribution of Wealth.

    Liberals have used man’s absolute disposition, (true as it comes from the Bible – which says, all is vanity), to shoe-horn in the minds of the susceptible that they are guilty by association to the flesh. Instant subjection of one mind over another follows. Now, is this true in any palpable sense? No, because it applies to an individual before God Almighty. Only Christ Himself (who is God as a man – and therefore, not carnal) is able to represent true humility (the absence of vanity). Liberals are actually usurping God’s disposition toward man as an authority to rally the susceptible. Liberal leaders act as lords to their followers. That is why we are inundated with rhetoric.

    So, if you are alive you have polluted the planet (even babies breath, and will potentially breathe more), and are therefore guilty, and must atone. This mimicks the Christian doctrine of original sin. Satan has said that he will become like the most high – these are the politics of pretending to be God. But, it is important to understand that God has made man the steward of the planet. We are to take care of the planet, though men are not authorized to be lords over each other. And lies are always lies.

    They have hijacked the terms, and taken advantage of a free, naive, and undiscerning generation’s willingness to hear arguments (the “no stupid question” generation). Naivete and inability to discern is infused by our culture of rebellion, which is also a Liberal theme. The Liberals have taken advantage of the relative time of peace that has existed for the last 50 years, especially. Where there is prosperity they say poverty (and therefore injustice); where there is community they say segregation; where there is progress they call imperialism; and where there is regression they call progression.

  28. 28. misanthropicus

    There is a famous old photograph with Lenin after his return in Russia in 1917 – a long, high shot taken over a street intersection, possibly in Petersburg, with Lenin bundled in a long winter coat, hands in pockets, matrching across the street, a line of companion filing after him.
    A picture which powerfully suggests purposefulness and determination – and the ensuing events in Russia showed very well that Lenin’s stubborn pursuance of his peculiar vision, alas! paid off.

    Now, regardless the 2008 meltdown and other unusual circumstances that influenced that election’s outcome, I still cannot understand how some (and so many!) didn’t/weren’t willing to read behind Obama’s friendly grin the determination that Lenin had, i’e. that he would decidedly and unflinchingly try to inflict fundamental changes in America’s national social arrangements – and we are here -

    In 2008 people went to the booths for a presidential election – yet voted for a mystery radical revving his gears for revolutionary accomplishments -

    That historical Lenin photograph should make for the opening of any article trying to describe or decipher Obama’s real political intentions –

    , regardless the Republicans’ burdens (and many they were), regardless the deeper, decades long creeping cultural “socialist-isation” of this country

  29. 29. another chuck

    Cromwell,

    You might enjoy the symbolism in a piece in the London Telegraph today about a woodpecker that took on a 10′ snake in defense of its nest. The little guy put one hell of a fight, nevertheless it didn’t have a happy ending.

  30. 30. Kate

    In 1447 BCE 1 in 5 Jews left the bonds of slavery. 20% chose Exodus instead of living under Pharaoh. 20% can achieve greatness. It’s time for Americans to choose as well. As Rebbi Schneerson said “If you’re not leaving Egypt, you’re still there.”

    I will be a slave to no state.

  31. 31. KevinButterfield

    We need to be resolved foremost on the terms that drive motivation of the heart and will. Do not think that terms like Judgment, Justice, and Liberty are perspective-based. They have definite meanings, and implications. Liberals have adjusted the gears in the gear-box of Understanding to move in different directions, and to have different emphasis. But they have left the covering. Changing the cover is the final phase, and one phase grades into the next. The covering is now being unfastened.

    They will say that as long as the machine works then the placement of the gears is irrelevant. Is this all superficial? Vanity of vanities, everything is vanity [for earthly men] says the Bible; but, we DO fight for what we know is right despite man’s physical disposition to vanity. Is it ever right to steal? No, but sometimes it may appear to be right if one uses the right wording, perhaps even says it is a vengeance (meaning, ultimately, justication). Redistribution of Wealth.

    Liberals have used man’s absolute disposition, (true as it comes from the Bible – which says, all is vanity), to shoe-horn in the minds of the susceptible that they are guilty by association to the flesh. Instant subjection of one mind over another follows. Now, is this true in any palpable sense? No, because it applies to an individual before God Almighty. Only Christ Himself (who is God as a man – and therefore, not carnal) is able to represent true humility (the absence of vanity). Liberals are actually usurping God’s disposition toward man as an authority to rally the susceptible. Liberal leaders act as lords to their followers. That is why we are inundated with rhetoric.

    So, if you are alive you have polluted the planet (even babies breathe, and will potentially breathe more), and are therefore guilty, and must atone. This mimicks the Christian doctrine of original sin. Satan has said that he will become like the most high – these are the politics of pretending to be God. But, it is important to understand that God has made man the steward of the planet. We are to take care of the planet, though men are not authorized to be lords over each other. And lies are always lies.

    They have hijacked the terms, and taken advantage of a free, naive, and undiscerning generation’s willingness to hear arguments (the “no stupid question” generation). Naivete and inability to discern is infused by our culture of rebellion, which is also a Liberal theme. The Liberals have taken advantage of the relative time of peace that has existed for the last 50 years, especially. Where there is prosperity they say poverty (and therefore injustice); where there is community they say segregation; where there is progress they call imperialism; and where there is regression they call progression.

  32. 32. ahem

    Those Blip videos are great.

  33. 33. joel1954

    Elections have consequences.You give Obama to much credit, from talking to my liberal friends they think he is way to moderate. My guess is he is a far left democrat who knows he can’t govern that way if he expects to have a chance at re-election.
    If he gets a second term watch out, the agenda will get more leftist but with more conservatives in congress he won’t be able to do much damage.

  34. 34. tolouse latrec

    it all points to the famous Jew Plan “THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION”
    the Jew has been planning

    you are now living it.

    should you care? no person, family country or civilization has ever
    survived that has allowed the Jew to take them over.

    it may just a natural course, like when the Etruscans were eliminated

    but it is still sad

    merry Christmas

  35. 35. Samizdat

    Enough with the pity party, navel gazing and hand wringing,

    Start identifying conservative congressional candidates you identify with and support them financially. Even ten bucks helps. I have been doing this since last summer. I have contributed to five candidates who are not from my state. I have never done this before.

    Contribute funds to effective conservative organizations. I joined The Heritage Foundation this am and gave them a handsome contribution.

    Support the Tea Party movement in your area. My bet is this spring there will be rallies,the size of which have never been seen before.

    Maintain motivation; this is going to be a long battle.

    We conservatives are the entrepreneurs and innovative thinkers who made this country great. We are the people who employ people and pay taxes. We tend to sit on the political sidelines because we are so busy tending to our enterprises.

    If you want to have an enterprise to tend to in the future, you need to get off your a&% and start advocating for what you really believe in for there are forces in power who want to take it away from you.

    There’s people who talk a game and peole who play the game. The time for inaction is over. Get in the game and do it today.

  36. 36. Meryl

    “Barack Obama made everyone feel good — about him, about themselves, about themselves for supporting him.”

    No. He. Did. Not. He made my skin crawl from 2007 when I realized that the mannekin from the 2004 DNC was on the move. I nearly vomited when he said, BEFORE THE ELECTION, “in a few days….we begin the fundamental transformation of America….”

    What IS this patronizing group-stupid that “conservative writers” continue to insist that all of us were/are a part of??

    Please. Stop it. If he made you as an individual feel good because of your willingness to be deceived, please own up to your own deception. The only possible way this fraud can make me feel good is to resign his office, effective at noon today, to spend more time with his family.

  37. 37. Ruebacca

    We need to be ruthless with the parasitic left. They have no bounds of decency when dealing with us. If we get the house back we need to strange Obamas welfare state in it’s crib.

    A rational person could only support the Democrats if they were on the take. The Democrats are spending all our money and China’s to hold there parasitic coalition together and it is still not enough.

  38. 38. Samson

    will we have to refer to each other as comrade ?

  39. 39. John Abrams

    As I look on the smug faces of the Democrats I really don’t think they plan on leaving power. Whether by a ‘crisis’ before the elections or whatever, these people are dangerous and think that this is the time for their glorious revolution. Which means that this might get ugly with rifles after any move tried. Can America’s days without violent Revolution be over? There is a game online that scared me a bit when I read the history/timeline complete with many of the videos here at Pajamas Media. It asks a simple question of ‘Is it a game or is it reality’. Google 2011 Obama’s Coup Fails and see what I mean. I want my America back and really am scared that these people are not joking and are all real Marxists.

  40. 40. Samson

    36. Meryl:

    I’m with you Meryl, obuma is a lying scumbag. I just watched a clip on his speech today. and it was difficult to listen to the disingenuous bu!l. He/it constantly blames the hard working taxpaying americans for the fraud and waste in the system while supporting his union thieves.

    by the end of his/its term mexico will look a lot less corrupt.

  41. 41. Lily

    tolouse latrec:

    Sweetie, you need to start taking your meds again.

  42. 42. Painesright

    It is NOT by accident that we find ourselves in our current situation… it is by design… the result of 40+ years of something called “Ideological Subversion”.

    There is nothing secretive or crazy-conspiracy-theorist about Ideological Subversion. It is overt, out in the open, in your face.

    There are 4 stages to Ideological Subversion:

    1. Demoralization
    2. Destabilization
    3. Crisis (we are at the beginning of this stage)
    4. Normalization (which is anything but normal!).

    This cancer has been growing silently and is very close to destroying our country.

    Please read this recent American Thinker article and watch this short video/interview. They feature Yuri Bezmenov, an ex-KGB agent and Russian defector, describing exactly how Ideological Subversion works (it should sound eerily familiar).

    Video (Interview from mid 1980′s… there are many videos featuring Mr. Bezmenov, if limited on time, skip to 2:12):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk

    Recent 2009 American Thinker article:
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/from_russia_with_no_love.html

    Please share with everyone you know. This video has over 100,000 views, but it needs to have 100 million.

  43. 43. Jon

    Where is John Galt??? Who says that the doctors have to accept Medicare/Medicaid? How can abortion be about a woman’s privacy and yet the government will interfere with honest God fearing citizens? If a woman has the right to decide, per the liberal theology, then why don’t we have the same right to decide what is best for our body. Hope somebody picks up on this and files a lawsuit. Can’t have it both ways, so let’s take it to the Supreme Court.

    Has anyone put much thought into why the right to bear arms is the second amendment, not the 4th, 5th or 10th?

  44. 44. CR

    I’m with Cromwell (#18). Surrender is not an option, ever. It is not too late to formulate your own COIN strategy and prepare to water the tree of liberty should the time come, and I fear that time is quickly approaching. As always, prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.

  45. 45. scythe

    #4 Rog – Short and sweet. Brilliant.

  46. 46. Samizdat

    Lily at 41,

    I’m with you about Tolouse. Where did those sentiments emminate from?

    CR at 44,

    We have an election to prepare for. The tree of liberty isn’t going to need watering as you fear. The left is unprepared for what is about to hit them. The election in November is going to begin the process of strangling their aspirations for power.

    It would really help the cause if you would pledge to act in support of the right candidates and then follow through. Cut the melodrama and help the rest of us show these misguided people the exits.

    To any other participant who shares conservative beliefs, the time to act is now. Get ready for a protracted fight. Pry your hands off your wallet and get in the game TODAY.

  47. I am glad to see that a pundit finally breaks the wall of silence and calls a socialist revolution a socialist revolution.
    We need leaders with the courage to tell to the American People this bitter truth. We need to wake up every single American and call everybody to peacefully and legally fight this battle to roll back the totalitarians.

    Godspeed America !

  48. Isn’t the whole “fear of government” just a scare tactic to keep us from being organized? To divide and conquer us until we are under an oligarchy of multinational corporations?

  49. 49. Zeke

    Most here are still in Denial. We are far beyond tea parties and elections at the national level resolving anything. Look who votes. Entire states are firmly socialist. Many people on the left are mad that Obama isn’t moving futher faster. Zeros next society crushing move is legalization and voting rights for tens of millions of mestizo invaders from the south. Look at California. It cannot be saved, it MUST suffer through the unavoidable results of welfare state socialism and Mexifornication.

    Before fighting comes choosing sides. For many of us this implies relocation. Red states must be made redder. The will to resist, utterly, must be grown in our strongholds.

    As one small example: San Francisco has ignored immigration laws (state and federal) for decades. Why not a ” sanctuary city” for federal tax payees? A sanctuary state? We can, with sacrifice and toil once again have freedom in some areas of our nation. We can not have it in all of our nation. There are simply too many librards.

    The afrikanners faced a similar choice. To stay in the new black majority state that was obviously coming to South Africa or to force partition and a Afrikanner home state. Being optimists and believing the lefts propaganda of a new dawn they chose to stay and try to make SA work. Today their children fight to get exit visas, their husbands are denied employment via racist quotas, their daughters buy rape insurance, and their parents cower in fear waiting to have their throats slit and their farms seized in ANC sponsored land redistribution.

    Let us not make the same mistake here. Seperation. Secession. States rights and state autonomy. Now while it is still possible and we are still free men. Clearly these evil communists mean to have us all in chains soon.

  50. 50. Phranc

    25. Richard A.:

    Cue the music for the next American Revolution.
    ______________________________________________________

    I recommend a slight rewording of the old Bonnie Blue flag song.

  51. 51. Professor Guvinoff

    True patriots and tea partiers, we must fight back, not lose spirit just because the Alinskyistas won one battle.

  52. 52. Yes We Did

    This is just another in a long string of vile, racist attacks on our new Leader.

    Apparently you racist hatemongers didn’t notice that we had an election last November. We won, you lost, and you will never get another chance.

    President Obama rules this country now. He will lead us all forward into a new world of peace and justice.

    You racist white male oppressors are finished. You would be well advised to just shut up and pay your reparations to your erstwhile victims.

  53. 53. arhooley

    52. Yes We Did:

    Either a dead-on imitation or the true face of ignorance and evil.

  54. 54. Fafnir

    The American Thing (The running stag, the gull at wing, the pure elixer, the American Thing) exists still in remote, rural America where people take care of themselves and their families, where men are men and women are glad of it. America’s founders hoped their experiment in democracy would last, but were aware of the difficulties involved in freedom (most people really don’t want freedom, but wish to be cared for by others). The Recolution was fought to escape the yoke of England and now 236 years later America becomes just another England with massive government intruding into every nook and cranny of this once free America. The Civil War wasted a generation of Americans to keep America together. Now, 145 years after the South surrendered, america is not united, but more disparate than ever. Softhearted Lincoln allowed the former slaves to remain in the USA, (against his better judgement) because the former slaves wanted to stay and did not want to return home to Africa. Clinton flooded the country with immigrants for more votes for “democrats.” So, there really is no hope of return to a free American people because of the overwhelming numbers (over half) who vote democratic, but do not pay taxes or own anything but boom-boxes. I quote Robert Hutchins: “The death of democracy is not likely to be an assassination from ambush. I will be a slow extinction from apathy, indifference, and undernourishment.” (Although the Obama/Soetero/Dunham election can be seen as “assassination from ambush). I note a previous comment about Malcolm X (aka Malcolm Little/ Malcolm Shabazz) being the presidential sperm donor. Anyone else note the name of King Shabazz in the Philadelphia voter intimidation swept under the rug by Holder? Is he a half brother? King Shabazz Barry Shabazz/Soetero/Obama/Dunham/X?????????

  55. 55. myth buster

    pelaut, you are more toxic than Yes We Did! Keep your bloody mouth shut; you’re fatalism isn’t doing anybody any good. You do not preach repentance, nor are you willing to keep up the fight, so do us all a favor, and shut up!

  56. 56. Samizdat

    There are opinions expressed above that are treating the Marxist take over as already accomplished. I will agree that the left is taking us towards the cliff edge, but we are along way from going over.

    Congress and President Obama have in 11 months managed to alienate independents. No party can cling to power without them. The doom and gloom needs to be replaced by resolve and action.

    Conservatives presented a winning argument to independents in 1980, you are dead wrong if you think that can’t happen today.

    Fact and persuasion will carry the day in November 2010. Stop talking about revolution, start acting on behalf of conservative candidates. The Virginia governor’s race should serve as a reminder of what is likely if the right candidate runs and the correct platform is adopted.

    Can you say landslide?

  57. 57. Richard A.

    I have no “rulers” in this world. I reject the yoke.

  58. 58. PM

    Uh, yes we did…… do you have any clue at all?

  59. 59. wayne

    I keep hoping and praying each and every day that someone in the Senate, that there is one principled Patriot OF THE CONSTITUTION who will stand up in front of all (when one of these excretions of tyranny is voted out upon us) and announce as he or she is walking out that this person ss returning to his or state to help draft the articles of secession.

    Please Lord let this day come soon!!

  60. 60. David W. Lincoln

    A question: Are there people in the United States who are prepared
    to do more than yap? In other words, a continental government comprised of those who pay more than lip service to Michael Walker, Michael Ledeen, and Lord Monckton.

    After all, the chief deformed soul in the Oval Office, plus all the rest of the deformed souls, zombies, reprobates, and similar ilk inside the Beltway are not in the least bit interested in anything other than their agenda.

  61. 61. wayne

    …this person is returning… got to get new glasses

  62. 62. Mike

    “Yes We Did:”

    “President Obama rules this country now.”

    You said it buddy. “Rules” not “Administers”.

    Oh, by the way do not forget what happened to Ernst Röhm

  63. 63. JohnK

    There is still a chance, but we need to be prepared for a long slog to get our country back on track. Here are the steps to take now –

    1) Buy guns and ammunition
    2) Get your kids and grandkids out of government schools

  64. 64. Poor Citizen

    Yeah right, the wars have gone the right wing ways…escalation and continuation. Health Care, well…the insurance companies won. Environment? pollute away was the order of the day in copenhagen…

    So what is your problem? the extreme right has won…its the left wing that has lost….

    so…Merry Christmas…whoops.. thats a left wing term isnt it?…

  65. 65. Now and Then

    63. JohnK:

    Dumb as stumps and armed to the teeth. Good plan! It’s working so well in Mississippi, let’s go nationwide!

  66. 66. donttreadonme

    Now & Then,
    On your lunch break again? While I know your job as the Under Under Under Under Assistant to the Assistant Director of the Coordination Committee Liaison Office for The Federal Department of Aggrieved Hermaphrodites is a demanding one, don’t you have something better to do than waste the private sector’s generous underwriting of your sterling career? Hrrmm, that’s what I thought. What a child.

  67. 67. donttreadonme

    Poor Citizen,
    Some advice: Fill up a large bathtub with warm water. Get in said tub. Expose wrists. Go Roman. Enjoy the Eternal Netherworld for Balding, Pony-tail-in-the-back-went-to-Woodstock-has-dogeared-Commie-Manifesto-in-Adirondack-backpack-from-1965 Useful Idiots.

  68. 68. Will

    Some of us could see this dangerous fake for who he is and tried to tell our fellow American’s what was coming. Corruption is every where,but an adgenda to destroy our country is worse !

  69. 69. steve4libertyinSC

    Time for those conservatives and moderate-conservatives to leave the blue states and head to the red. We need to consolidate.

    Thats what i did. Best thing i ever did was move to SC!!! That was 15 yrs ago and I haven’t looked back, NY has become a pool of socialist swill.

    Leave CA, NY, and any other deep blue state, your wasting your vote, money and time. And if/when the revolution comes you will already be in the right place.

  70. 70. Jim Baker

    #65,
    This is serious stuff now, bub. You don’t understand the first damned thing about your own country and what it stands for, and you constantly choose to throw around these fun little insults that bubble up from your own stupid prejudices! Grow up, boy.

  71. 71. J Galt

    What can we do instead of endlessly talking? Join OathKeepers.com Then join your local State organization. Maybe become a ‘Three Percenter’. There more than many patriots in the form of law enforcement, military, vets (like myself)who WILL NOT stand for tyranny. Will not allow for the wanton destruction of our country. The oath we all took has no statute of limitations “……all enemies foreign and domestic…”. I am harassing the GOP representatives (since they pick up the phone) and telling them to start calling this what it is – ‘Fascism’. Privately owned, Government controlled. Tell them to stop with the arguing around the edges. If enough of them get loud enough, we might not only keep swelling the ranks but also keep the kind of “October Surprise” that put this Statist in the White House from happening again in the first place. If that doesn’t work than the Three Percenters will step in…

  72. 72. Cybergeezer

    Can’t we find some minority individual that speaks broken english, but can read a tele-prompter to run against Obama next election?

  73. 73. Cybergeezer

    Any besides me notice that comment from “YES WE DID’ was a cut and paste job from their previous posts?

  74. 74. Samizdat

    Jim at 70,

    Your exactly correct about Now and Then.

    Let me add that you shouldn’t really expect any change. He/she clings to the belief that Marxism will solve all of our problems even though there isn’t any evidence that it delivers more freedom and better services at a cheaper price. It’s basically a cult to these folks which they worship despite all the evidence of it’s Jim Jones character.

    Freedom is scary for lefties for with it comes responsibility.

  75. 75. golee maryam

    “Think it can’t happen here? History is littered with the wreckage of free states that gave way, sometimes with a scream, often with a whimper, to autocracy and absolutism. The city that gave birth to the world’s first and greatest republic was also home to Caesar and Mussolini.”

    As an Iranian American I can attest to the reality and legacy of that statement and now we confront the breakdown, damage, confusion, bankruptcy, and destruction here in this greatest of all countries!

    Still…. we go not silent!

    This breakdown and degeneracy did not happened suddenly when barack obama came to power. It came about — not even stealthily — over decades while the country slept — aren’t Rats still following the same game plan, moving, chewing, passing legislation in the dead of the night while people slumber? But now we are awakened and we must think through and scrutinize this Gordian knot to be able to untie it again.

    3 major problems: the president, the media (including the public and/or non-profit institutions sucking at gov’t teet), and the corruption (perhaps even coerced) of our lawmaking body.

    The first we have no choice but to tolerate for at least the next 3 years though by now the president himself has fastidiously untied the puzzlement of his self and his intentions. The slick facade has peeled off and his poll numbers are quickly submerging into the muck where he treads.

    In the case of our media/gov’t institutions it took decades of careless inattention and goofing-off on our part to get here and it will take sheer power and strength, resolve, and time, to pull our cart out of this ditch. We have to push and pull as one as never before; we have to relentlessly shine daylight on this pesky mess-up and misuse, we must never back off or be intimidated into silence; we must attack — oppose and expose — the thugs and tyrants head-on. (One of the most transformative, eye-opening events of my brainwashed college years was the sight of the bold, unflinching Charlton Heston raising his rifle over his head while uttering the memorable lines, “From my cold, dead hands!” It was his resolve and impassioned, determination that made me want to understand his stance. It changed me forever.)

    Now about the corruption of our lawmakers which has pushed the country to the edge of the abyss, I truly believe that’s where we still have the most empowerment to make change than we give ourselves credit. It is short-sighted to focus our aim in ’10 and ’12 elections entirely about throwing the bums out. We have to work on fundamentally changing the system put in place by these miscreants to favor themselves. They have built elaborate castles to protect them, but these castles are built on sand. We must stump them to the ground. Our motto should not only be about change and repeal but include the most important of all: TERM LIMITS, TERM LIMITS, TERM LIMITS….the presidency has term limits, the rest of the malfeasants need term limits too. We can tinker at the edge but I believe term limits should be our central aim. WE MUST PUSH AND SHOVE IT DOWN THEIR THROATS UNTIL THEY SWALLOW.

    In closing, we can never forget or shy away from standing on our giants’ shoulders (it’s what they would want us to do!) and here is the great Charlton Heston in an address to students at Harvard Law School entitled Winning the Cultural War–

    “The Constitution was handed down to guide us by a bunch of wise old dead white guys who invented our country! Now some flinch when I say that. Why! Its true-they were white guys! So were most of the guys that died in Lincoln’s name opposing slavery in the 1860s. So why should I be ashamed of white guys? Why is “Hispanic Pride” or “Black Pride” a good thing, while “White Pride” conjures shaven heads and white hoods? Why was the Million Man March on Washington celebrated by many as progress, while the Promise Keepers March on Washington was greeted with suspicion and ridicule? I’ll tell you why, Cultural warfare!”

    nancy pelosi and sheldon whitehouse and the rest of the hoodlums, take note!

  76. 76. Francine

    I feel frightened for this country. 52% of Americans VOTED for Obama. They wanted this man. Even though most of us on this site saw through Obama’s BS, none of that 52% did. In my county of California citizens vote repeatedly for Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, and Lynne Woolsey, three of the biggest Left-wing losers in Congress. Californians like these women. Look at Massachusetts. Why are Barney Frank and now-dead Ted Kennedy elected over and over for THIRTY years? The citizens of this country vote for these lefties who promise them goodies, and don’t seem to be the least bit concerned about bankrupting the nation. How do we change a public that votes for and keeps these Democrats in office? That public will be our downfall.

  77. 77. Banned by Huffpo

    President Obama, with the help of dedicated public servants such as Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, are on the cusp of bringing America to greatness!

    Peace and prosperity abound, and soon we will have plentiful, affordable health care. Remember, there is no war but class war. Also remember the Common Good!

    He won, now be quiet and get out of the way while he does what he promised to do!!

  78. 78. Berlet98

    Barack, Outed and Scorned?

    Pay careful attention to the expressions on the faces of Rahm Emanuel and the Anointed One lately.

    They both look more than a tad scared.

    Not only is former Chicago ally, disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich, affectionately known as Blago, ready, willing, and able to expose the president and his thuggees but now Obama’s prime idolators, his buddies in the extreme liberal fringe are turning on him like rabid pitbulls.

    Moveon.org may have sounded the clarion with its call to its adherents to scuttle Obamacare to which the SEIU obediently complied but Blago was way ahead of them.

    A week ago, Governor Blago’s lawyers demanded in federal court to make public “notes, transcripts and reports” of interviews with the Obamas, Emanuel, Valerie Jarrett and SEIU chiefs Thomas Balanoff and Andy Stern.

    Blago’s defenders also sought FBI information on First Lady Michelle Obama, America’s Evita, but were advised she had not been interviewed by the Bureau.

    Too bad.

    Precisely what dirt could be gleaned from the feds’ interviews would be conjectural at this point but given the nature of Chicago and Illinois politics, it should be interesting at the least, emancipating for Blago at the best.

    I still expect hapless Rod to be offed before he or his lawyers . . .

    (Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1380)

  79. 79. steveg

    What is allowing this to happen is the super majority in the senate which is the real prize in which the left has had wet dreams about. Red states like Montana, South Dakota and North Dakota having elected 5 out of 6 dem senators is hard to comprehend.

    Montana, a longtime republican stronghold, has a Dem governor, and two U.S. senators, and with Baucus being one of the leaders of Health Care reform… I sometimes wonder if a bunch of Ted Turner types moved to Montana as a grand plan in order to get the super majority that is required for a radical agenda.

  80. 80. Now and Then

    70. Jim Baker:
    “You don’t understand the first damned thing about your own country and what it stands for”

    Sure I do. Quiz me.

    “and you constantly choose to throw around these fun little insults that bubble up from your own stupid prejudices! ”

    What prejudices? Stupid people? People threatening armed revolution? Yes, I’m prejudiced against those people. Anything else?

    74. Samizdat:
    ” He/she clings to the belief that Marxism will solve all of our problems . . .”

    Well, Sammy’s Date, I don’t support Marxism. Never have. Never said anything like that. I think you must have me confused with goy.

  81. Since the 1930s, the federal govt has taken WAY too much control over the states and their peoples. The states were supposed to have power to energize and compete for good citizens. Now that’s almost gone, because the federal govt has succeeded in gathering too much power. it succeeded by help from the MSM who (CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, NYT, WaPo, LATimes) who behaved like raving idiots, not understanding that too many promises/entitlements by the federal govt, too many taxes, would suck the life out of the private sector. This is happening. People have not yet realized that govt growing too large, has/will crush private sector vibrancy. We are in HUGE trouble unless the federal govt cuts its size in 1/2, then the state govts will have to, to compete for good citizens. But it’s almost too late, because the voters think the Democrats will save us. Moderate voters are starting to understand that the federal govt is reaching too far.
    The Dems next step will be to get 15 million fresh new, illegal aliens to vote for them. It’s amazing.

  82. 82. zeke

    Matt’s may not be the stupidest blog ever to appear in PJM, but it’s a damn good try.

  83. 83. Samizdat

    Now and then,

    For years I went to school with a bunch of critical marxist types such as yourself. Some of them, believe it or not, are still friends. I know your America despising mindset well. I have been reading your posts offering your left leaning snarky repartee for many months now. You give yourself away again and again.

    It’s unremarkable that you deny your beliefs, that’s standard for lefties. It’s part of the adolescent mindset. You have difficulty revealing the truth about yourself as you have discovered by doing so you damage your credibility. It’s more convincing to others to pass yourself off generically.

    You don’t need to admit a thing, I know exactly how you are. I know all about the percieved injustice, the resentment and anger it causes, and your need to vent against those who actually are productive people. I know because once upon a time, I actually believed as you now do.

    It’s ok, just don’t think for a minute your fooling us.

  84. 84. Now and Then

    82 Sammy Sammy Sammy . . . you’re appropriately fixated on my dazzling intellect, but you know nothing of my world view. You assume that because I so effectively harpoon your raging hypocrisy that I am committed to your enemy. Well that’s an assumption on your part, Sammy. And you know what happens when you assume, right? That’s right, it makes an assump out of ti and on.

    But please indulge yourself. Imbue me all your evil obsessions. I don’t own them, you do. But if it makes you feel better . . .

    Hail Rush, Go Sarah!

  85. 85. Eric

    I’ve been saying this for the better part of a year and I won’t stop now. We need to stop trying to put all of our eggs in the federal basket and concentrate on a conservative takeover of state legislatures and governorships so we can nullify unconstitutional legislation emanating from DC. If you’re pinning your hopes of rolling back the monster in DC on the GOP you haven’t been paying attention the last several decades. The GOP is nearly as complicit in growing government as the Dems. If half a dozen states nullify Obamacare it will collapse. And when it collapses through nullification I believe other states will be emboldened to nullify it as well and then move to nullify other unconstitutional federal legislation and perhaps We the People can take back our government from the statists.

    http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/12/21/health-care-nullification-things-have-just-gotten-underway/

  86. 86. Now and Then

    79. steveg:
    “Red states like Montana, South Dakota and North Dakota having elected 5 out of 6 dem senators is hard to comprehend.”

    Nah pretty simple . .. will o tho people! our Democratic principles at work. Our Republic in fine feather.

  87. 87. angry american

    For you people advocating succession from the union, who are you trying to fool? You must be a KGB “sleeper cell”. Divide and conquer–that’s your game plan. Yes I have seen the Soviet propaganda news cast about how there will be a civil war in the USA by next summer. This buffoon of an expert was saying how Texas and CA would side with China, yaak, yaak, yaak. These are the same people who were spreading rumors that the Saudis were dropping the US$ in favor of Soviet, Japanese and Euro monies which sent the Saudi prince scrambling to deny the rumor. You people are incredibly vicious, aren’t you? You and your kind are stupid enough to think Americans believe and go along with everything that is said? You are so sure you have won the “brainwash America” game, don’t you? Well, you are far from it. Why don’t you take Obama, Chavez, Ahamdinejad and yourself and crawl back into the hell hole from whence you came?

  88. 88. Paden Cash

    Well, fun. I am hoping we get to a next election. If not then guns. I will support conservatives in the next election, with money and time. If the next election goes off without a hitch, with no fraud, I am prepared to abide the will of the American people, no matter what. I think we will see an election. I think there will be widespread fraud, as in the last election. If the left wants to do away with the elections, they will need the appearance of legitimacy. I wouldn’t want to be one of the conservatives on the SCOTUS right now.

  89. 89. Dark Helmet

    You completely miss the 800lb gorilla sitting in the room.

    obammy was elected for no other reason than he is black
    ( sort of, he’s as much white but not seen as white at all , racist in itself )

    That my dear children is how we got into this. We bought a crappy car that does not run or have any qualities making it worth trying to fix or keep at a time when we can afford neither, based on what color it is.

    Deal with this and stop being cowards talking about running away. It is time to run them away and start over. It’s our nation, remember? They have no authority over us in anyway when they do not keep their end of the deal. That is how it is set up. The time has come to remove every single person from office and keep replacing them until we have a room full of real, honest people.

    What ever that takes, the traitors in this nation will pay for.

    dh

  90. 90. myth buster

    88. And if my analysis of the situation is correct, there will be elections in November, the Left will cheat, and they’ll still lose, because even they won’t be able to stuff the ballot box enough to stop this landslide.

  91. 91. Global_Village

    What’s wrong with Socialism? My professors at college tell me it’s our last saving grace, that democracy is flawed and corrupt. The media have understood this for a while now too it appears, especially CNN and BBC. It seems the only ones not wanting change are from the deep-south. The government should have more control because we’re incapable of self-control, we waste too much energy and CO2 is killing the environment, melting polar ice and if we don’t stop our cities will be under water in 5yrs as Mr. Gore reminds us. Then what? Communism is far better solution for tackling the world’s problems, as it keeps us on the straight and narrow. It will help reduce CO2 and our environment will thrive, and we’ll have no choice but to get along in labor camps. My very smart professors recognize the American way is a fallacy, it’s time we surrender that idea and work collectively as one and share in each others struggles, misery and hopes. Now that is the change we’ve been waiting for and we have arrived! O-B-A-M-A!

    If you want to know how amazing the USA will look under communism, I suggest readers here visit the DailyKos, that place will open your mind to so much that’s wrong with the USA, and they’re not afraid of communism there either, they embrace it wholeheartedly! Go the workers and the Unions! Down with old USA, up with the Progressives!

  92. 92. Insufficiently Sensitive

    Remember those heady days of 2008 when Barack Obama successfully painted himself as a moderate?

    Barack Obama didn’t do the painting. All he did was posture and prance like a celebrity, and promise peace and love and thinly disguised payoffs, and make vicious slanders against Americans who didn’t agree with his community organizing persona.

    The painters were the exclusive little coterie who held the cameras and the microphones and wrote the articles – aka the mainstream media. THEY made sure we only received their own biased hopes for change, after their six-year negative campaign against GWB. It was they who mounted the production of the coming of the Messiah, the guy who gave the ‘best speech in the US since the Gettysburg Address’, the guy who would bring America together and end divisiveness. They loved his giving the finger during the debates. They added a little frisson which grew from the mating of his melanin and their liberal guilt, and for dessert they got even all over again for the US venture into Vietnam.

    Not coincidentally, they made no effort whatever to vet this all-too-ideal progressive candidate without executive experience – where he’d been, who were his mentors, where and what were his school records, what were his goals (not even his extreme Senate votes, nor his early Chicago campaigns alerted them to that). How might he behave if anointed Commander-in-Chief and faced with nuclear hostility? They made no guesses. Would he act as President of all Americans? They simply swooned. Could he hold our traditional alliances together? No questions asked nor answered.

    The MSM has a lot of questions to ask itself, and to answer to us. Their painting has depreciated beyond zero. The question for us is, how are we to replace THEM with some honest purveyors of current events?

  93. 93. Right Wing Extremist

    Mom, of the greatest generation, always told us that Kruschev said that this country would be destroyed not by the Soviet Union but from within. She also said that “they” want people to be uneducated and stupid. As a child I didn’t quite comprehend the possibility of the former statement – our country destroyed? And the second statement I didn’t know what to make of…

    Seems that Mom was right. We are witnessing the destruction of our country and it sure helped that a lot of stupid people – including the highly educated yet still stupid – voted for this commie.

    2010 is definitely the year for mobilization against this tide of thievery and tyranny.

  94. 94. Praetorian

    History suggests that major new social initiatives have to be perfected over time — and that basic entitlements, once established, are rarely taken away. History bears this out in many instances.

    This is very true and conservatives know it. The mantra being babbled right now is “repeal” in order to get the right all ginned up, so that they vote with greater intensity and, hopefully, recapture a chamber, which is unlikely, in 2010. Repealing health care reform will end up like repealing abortion. It won’t ever happen. Why, because the leadership in the GOP doesn’t really want it to. They’d rather have it as an issue at election time. Moreover, once people see how they personally benefit health care will just become another third rail like Social Security. Touch it and you die. Nope, it won’t ever be repealed.

    Moreover, conservatives know quite well what the passage of HCF means politically. The political center of gravity will be shifted to the left in such a way that the GOP will have to adapt to the new reality. Neocons will be marginalized and the future GOP will look much like the Tories in Great Britain. Think Olympia Snowe, just a whole bunch more of them. You people may not like the change but its here and happening this very minute.

  95. 95. WellEducatedCad

    43 Jon- Doctors will drop Medicaid and Medicare like a worthless potato ( those that still accept it) especially with the 21% cut in reimbursement coming. The result ? The Government will FORCE us to accept it. They are already talking about making it a condition to renewing our license that we would have to agree to accept M/M or else. This is exactly how it happened in other countries. I know a lot of ex-Canadian docs who will tell you ” here we go again!”. There will be big promises made to the public and doctors- and then……..”Oops! We can’t afford to do that ! Sorry folks!” Welcome to the VA for everyone! Where the motto literally is ” We don’t care if you live or die as long as the paperwork is filled out correctly”

  96. 96. Jason

    2010 Congress can repeal the healthcare law and Impeach Obama.
    Set term limits. Review every law and strike down 90 percent as unconstitutional. Not until we send most of congress packing will things
    change.

  97. 97. Mike2

    31. KevinButterfield:

    You understand the real problem like few others here.

  98. 98. lookout

    Toulouse Lautrec doesn’t even know how to spell his own name–twice!

  99. 99. Mark

    “Law Enforcement” is the Great Enabler for this evil. In spite of their oath to “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic” they sit idly by while an illegal alien usurps the office of President of the United States. By his own words, he attended public school in Indonesia at a time when Indonesia did NOT allow non-citizens to do so, and did NOT recognize dual citizenship. If he ever WAS a US citizen, he renounced his citizenship at that time. Furthermore, by his own words he traveled to Pakistan in 1981. At that time, you could NOT do so on a US passport. But “Law Enforcement” bows and scrapes before their Masters and then do whatever they’re told. Just like the fine German police under the Nazis. They are NOT your friends. They even look suspiciously on those few members of “Law Enforcement” that actually DARE to swear to honor their oaths of office – the Oathkeepers are loathed by “Law Enforcement” in general. Such is the putrid stench of evil that is “protecting” our country.

  100. 100. Now and Then

    99. Mark:

    Orly Taitz called, she wants what’s left of her mind back.

  101. 101. Mr Lucky

    84. Now and Then.

    “…fixated on my dazzling intellect, but you know nothing of my world view”.

    Collectivist Barnyard Intellect, corn, water, government protection, and a Christmas pardon.

    “I so effectively harpoon your raging hypocrisy….”

    Raging Modern Liberal Turkeys don’t carry harpoons. They carry raging basters.

    65. Now and Then.

    “Dumb as stumps and armed to the teeth. Good plan! It’s working so well in Mississippi, let’s go nationwide!”

    Are you calling the people in the blackest State in the Union, “Dumb as stumps”? Does this betray a racist streak in the Handsome Mixed European – American Turkey With a Touch of Black camp?

    Where’s Jesse Jackson when you need him? What about an apology to at least the black population of Mississippi? A Modern Liberal owes that, plus banned for life. And the hell with the “Dumb as stumps and armed to the teeth” other population in Mississippi, right? They really are all “Dumb as stumps and armed to the teeth.” Of course!

    Aren’t you the Modern Liberal Turkey with the Hendrix Gobble Karaoke machine that has those Cool Black genes that you are so proud of?

    I’m sure Anvil would rip you over this. I doubt if he would kick in an “Amen Brother” either.

    Terrible, absolutely claw in beak. Maybe you need a beer break at the White House. This is going to kill your Bast a Turkey Stimulus grant.

    Merry Christmas if the chopping block goes AWOL, or Mr. President doesn’t get you first.

    Gobble gobble Goebbles.

  102. 102. myth buster

    94. We refuse. We refuse to be slaves. We will stop this by any means necessary. Law enforcement may look the other way at usurpations by the government, but they’ll also look the other way toward general rebellion by the people, else they, too, will die.

  103. 103. Now and Then

    Philosophy is too serious to involve conservatives. Don’t you folks have some port wine stains to discuss?

  104. 104. Mark

    Now and Then: Am I making up the fact that The One attended Indonesian public schools? It’s in his book. You can verify Indonesian law for that time.

    Am I making up his claim of travel to Pakistan? It’s also in his book. You are more than welcome to verify with the Pakistanis that they did not accept US passports at that time.

    Or are you just so into “Law Enforcement” that you can’t stand any criticism of them?

  105. 105. james

    I’m sorry, but I can’t believe that there was ever anyone stupid enough to believe that this communist radical was a moderate. Maybe imbecile Ivy League coeds and school teachers, but that’s about it. Most people who voted for him (blacks excepted) just weren’t thinking it through. Like getting married in heat: always a bad idea. Now that they see the country being destroyed they lament. Well where were you when we needed you?

  106. 106. Praetorian

    Jason #96 wrote “2010 Congress can repeal the healthcare law and Impeach Obama.
    Set term limits. Review every law and strike down 90 percent as unconstitutional. Not until we send most of congress packing will things
    change.”

    I have to laugh when I hear this sort of delusional clairvoyance. First you have to have the numbers to do what you say. If you don’t outnumber the other side in the voting booth you lose, plain and simple. And you don’t win elections with a decreasing demographic no matter how mad they are. Do you really think you’ll be able to take away someone’s health care benefits once they’re actually getting them? If you do you’re living on another planet. That would be like taking away the Social Security benefits of a teabagger (and watch how fast they put down the “impeach Obama” sign then!). There will be no repealing of health care. You had your chance to defeat HCR and it was lost. You have no one to blame except the leadership in the GOP. This ‘we’re gonna get ya in 2010″ is nothing more than the bark of a incontinent poodle. Pathetic really.

  107. 107. Robert

    I sincerely hope that 2010 causes a revolt at the polls that sees a flood of democrats thrown out of office. It would be the best possible outcome. However, I also know that democrats know that this is coming and so I wonder what they have planned to subvert the process. Will they cancel the elections because of violence stirred up by SEIU and ACORN? Will they use SEIU and ACORN to steal or subvert the election process? We have seen that the Attorney General will not prosecute black panther voter intimidators. Will this be a green light for thugs with night sticks to “patrol” the polling places? Will this be met with violence from concealed carry holders defending themselves?

    Expect the leftists to be subversive, anti-freedom and marxist. Do NOT expect them to be stupid. We dont know what is their plan but theay can see the writing on the wall as sure as we can and they are in love with their power and loathe to lose it. Unfortunately it may take watering the tree of liberty. I dearly hope it doesn’t but it will soon come time when Americans will need to decide whether to stand up and fight (at the ballot box homefully) or lose their country.

  108. 108. frank grimes

    praetorian:”Moreover, conservatives know quite well what the passage of HCF means politically. The political center of gravity will be shifted to the left in such a way that the GOP will have to adapt to the new reality”

    “new” reality huh?how about just plain reality:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/12/AR2009051200252.html

    “The report, issued yesterday by the trustees who monitor the government’s two main forms of help for the elderly, shows that Medicare has become more fragile as well and is at greater risk than Social Security of imminent fiscal collapse. Starting eight years from now, the report says, the health insurance program will be unable to pay all its hospital bills. ”

    so what you’re saying is:a new entitlement program that collects taxes YEARS before it actually starts,lowers the quality of care for seniors AND forces people to buy plans(it’s suppoda be free!)… will be a big winner for the democrats?

    “I have to laugh when I hear this sort of delusional clairvoyance.”

    me too champ.me too.

  109. 109. Mercury

    Time for the free to migrate to Texas?

  110. 110. Jim Baker

    Praetorian,
    What the hell is delusional clairvoyance? You are right about the stupid Republicans, they figured out a way to lose to a bunch of communists, but do you actually think health care will improve?

  111. 111. Praetorian

    Yes, Jim (#110) I do think health care will improve, albeit not as much as I would have hoped. Once the bill is signed private insurance companies will no longer be able to deny coverage because of a pre-existing condition. Do you have any idea how big that is? It’s major. I mean let’s face it, we’re all going to have a pre-existing condition somewhere down the line and when we do we’ll be glad that we can get the care that we need. As health care evolves and is tweaked over the years I see a system much like the ones that exist in Germany and France, which are rated among the finest in the world by the World Health Organization and the patients themselves. The insurers are largely non-profit regulated entities. Since the profit mechanism is not a factor the insurers answer to patients and doctors and not the needs of shareholders who want to take another spa vacation on the back of a dead child that was denied care because it impacted their bottom line.

    I’m all for profit and capitalism bye the way. It fine for ice cream cones, glass cleaner, skin cream, etc. If I don’t like the ice cream cone I get I can shop around for another one. If I have cancer and my insurance company denies coverage it’s a little harder to shop around for a new life. Health insurance is a different animal and should be treated as such. Someday you’ll be glad that it is.

  112. 112. Fred Beloit

    #80 NAT say: “What prejudices? Stupid people? People threatening armed revolution? Yes, I’m prejudiced against those people. Anything else?

    Yes, NAT, there is something else. Why do you hate Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Thomas Paine, and the rest?:
    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

  113. 113. Now and Then

    112. Fred Beloit:
    “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

    And that is EXACTLY what we did. You’re on the wrong side of history, and of the principles of our founding fathers. Hate Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Thomas Paine, and the rest? Nope, they’re my homies.

  114. 114. Now and Then

    104. Mark:
    First, nobody debates whether Obama travelled to Pakistan. (But, can you present the passage in Obama’s book that discusses his trip to Pakistan?) Second, and more to the point:

    The U.S. State Department did not include Pakistan on a “no travel” list in mid-1981. The U.S. State Department routinely issues Travel Warnings (which caution travelers about “long-term, protracted conditions that make a country dangerous or instable) and Travel Alerts (which caution travelers about short-term conditions, generally within a particular country, that pose imminent risk to the security of U.S. citizens) but those warnings are purely advisory – they do not prohibit Americans from traveling to the listed countries. The fact that the U.S. State Department issued an informative Travel Advisory for Pakistan in August 1981 (to make Americans aware of updated visa requirements for entering that country) demonstrates that U.S. passport holders could freely travel to and from Pakistan at the time of Obama’s visit there.

    Moreover, during that same time period (mid-1981), New York Times assistant news editor Barbara Crosette visited Pakistan and wrote a column about her experiences, a piece in which she offered tips to other American who might wish to visit that country, Additionally, her column prompted a follow-up leer from John S. Brims, then the U.S. Consul General in Lahore, Pakistan, in which he “welcome(d) an influx of Americans” who might have been inspired to come to Pakistan by her article and also offered helpful tips for tourists traveling to the country. (snopes)

    And the snare slams shut again.

    BTW, here’s Orly’s number – 1-555-IMINSANE.

    Next.

  115. 115. Jim Baker

    111,
    And who pays when these non-profits don’t make their expenses? The only reason insurance costs are as high as they are is because the federal government non-profit insurer (medicare) refuses to pay the normal fees to doctors for their services. Doctors turn around and over charge private insurers when their insured patients come in. Private insurance companies raise their premiums because doctors are gouging them to recover lost money the government non-profit insurance company won’t pay them. There is not one legal case of an insurance company denying coverage if the insured is already covered. Pre-existing conditions means that you can’t wait to buy insurance after you already know you will file large claims as soon as you buy a policy. Do you wait until after you total your car to buy your auto insurance? So how is non-profit insurance going to prevent this scenario? The only way is to tell every citizen that they are required to purchase a product at a price that will enable the country’s most inefficient work force to pay for the services that they actually agree to provide. What new medical breakthroughs are coming out of these two enlightened European countries these days? If Germany and France have such wonderful non-profit systems, why haven’t you gone to live there and take advantage of such a better system?
    I suspect that all you want is for someone else to pay for your health care, and you couldn’t care less who that is, as long as it is not you. Why don’t you break into my house and steal what is mine? Hiring the government to do that for you is no more than finding a middle man to do what you would go to jail for doing. So, I don’t need a lecture from some moral man about my responsibility to see that his family has free health care. I also think that you wouldn’t support any for profit enterprise, if you could figure out a way to force other people to buy what they produce for you. How many times do you think you can go to this well and find water? What happens when the government decides that you are worth only the taxes they can collect from you, if they haven’t already?

  116. 116. Fred

    I have dibbs on “Praetorian”!

  117. 117. Fred Beloit

    #113 NAT say “And that is EXACTLY what we did.”
    NAT, who is we…you and ACORN or who? Oh, you mean you are some kind of political hero as well as a war hero?
    BTW, how goes the quest for your MOS?

  118. 118. Curtis M

    Now and Then -

    “…that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed….”

    I think where the disconnect is coming from is related to this particular passage.

    First, it refers to the “pursuit” of Happiness. Not the ‘right’ to Happiness itself. Personally, I interpret this to mean pursuit without interference from ‘government’ SO LONG AS my pursuit does not impact/affect others without their consent – in which case ‘government’ would take on a role. Under this interpretation, individuals are responsible for their OWN upkeep (including obtaining health care) without impact/affecting others without their consent.

    Second, the passage refers to the deriving of ‘just powers’ from the ‘consent of the governed’. I’m sure that we could all have a healthy debate regarding what constitutes ‘just powers’ and/or the ‘consent of the governed’.

    Or, I suppose, you could just respond with your typical snarky reply and this will all go nowhere…..

  119. 119. Now and Then

    117. Fred Beloit:
    “who is we…?

    Well gee, Fred, I thought it was obvious. We is everybody but you.

  120. 120. myth buster

    If you have cancer and lack insurance, you liquidate your savings and take out a mortgage on your house to pay for treatment. If that isn’t enough, you ask family and friends to help out. If that still isn’t enough, go to your community and beg for help. Try negotiating with the hospital to lower the cost. They’ll work with you if you’re paying cash; it’s much easier than dealing with the insurance companies anyway. Most importantly- coverage is not health care, and access to a waiting list is not access to health care.

  121. 121. Fred2

    Fafnir wrote:

    [The Civil War wasted a generation of Americans to keep America together. Now, 145 years after the South surrendered, america is not united, but more disparate than ever. Softhearted Lincoln allowed the former slaves to remain in the USA, (against his better judgement) because the former slaves wanted to stay and did not want to return home to Africa.]

    Two flaws with your argument.

    First, the 13th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution ended slavery, meaning that Black slaves like my great-grandfather were recognized as human beings just as God does:

    http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am13

    Thus, these ex-slaves were now U.S. CITIZENS with full constitutional rights under the 14th Amendment:

    http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am14

    Hence, Lincoln couldn’t force this new generation of American citizens (many of whom were native born) out the country if he really wanted to. That would unconstitutional. If these Black citizens CHOSE to leave (see Liberia), then that’s another story.

    Second, because the GOP opposed slavery, these new Black citizens logically voted for and even ran as Republicans. This was good for the GOP and America overall.

    Unfortunately, some missteps and flat out unethical decisions by later GOP politicians resulted in the Democrats being able to win over Black voters. Hence, the paradigm shifted from Black people being mostly pro-Republican to pro-Democrat especially after the 1960s. For more read this commentary at Booker Rising:

    http://www.bookerrising.net/2009/12/black-people-conservatism-rock-and-roll.html

    So, Lincoln did the right thing, but the GOP sadly blew it by taking Black people for grant as time wore on. In the century, the irony is that more Black people are reject the Democrat Party, who now takes them for granted. The GOP could start to rebuild its once great relationship with Black voters IF it is smart and serious about it.

    Just my two cents.

  122. 122. Benson

    Bull crap, bull crap, bull crap. Americans were brainwashed, pure and simple. Eight years,EIGHT YEARS,of lies from state media about the President and the war. Ignorance and belief in the the lying media caused the Obama presidency nothing else. If Bush and the war had been given even half the support this lying socialist was given American’s would have felt good about our country, the successes in the war and our president. Americans who voted for Obama were to lazy to search for the truth and were led like unthinking sheep to do exactly as the media decided they should.

  123. 123. Praetorian

    #115
    It’s too bad many of you are incapable of looking past your own ideological constipation. This isn’t rocket science. If an insurance company is a non-profit entity they will have cheaper prices and better coverage because their sole purpose for existence will be to pay for health care and they won’t have to worry about turning a profit, advertising, shareholders, and year over year growth numbers. There will be no incentive for them to deny coverage or to drop people simply because they might end up using their coverage thus denying the shareholders that extra spa vacation. The right argues that competition will bring down prices. We’ve been led to believe that the whole purpose for having a private insurance industry is because the private sector could do a better job for less. With health care premiums increasing four times the rate of inflation it’s pretty obvious they cannot. They have failed miserably. And yet some of you still feel compelled to carry water for this scum! What exactly are they putting in that tea at the tea parties? It’s really mind-boggling. Which leads my to believe that this, for many of you, isn’t really about health care at all. It’s more akin to a football game and you simply want your side to win. The political right has been reduced to the equivalent of a sniveling child who didn’t get their way and is acting out. Pathetic.

    Germany, for instance, has had universal health care for about a century (yes, a century). It’s worked out very well and people generally are satisfied with the care they receive. Health care is of higher quality and is delivered at a lower cost. The life expectancy of the French, for instance, is far better that the U.S. and their health care costs less. Moreover, you never hear of them going bankrupt over health bills. It NEVER happens like it does here. Both countries have many insurance companies that offer health care plans. Some of them are considered “public”, some “private.” They can’t knock you off your plan when you get sick, they are somewhat regulated by politics on how much they can charge for their plans and the only difference between the two types that matters for most people is, that private insurance plans cost more, but also offer coverage for a bigger variety of things. But all the plans at their minimum are very adequate and no one has to die because of loosing a health care plan when you get “too costly” which is probably when you need the plan most because your REALLY sick.

    But don’t take my word for any of this:

    (How they kill people to turn a profit)
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/06/the_truth_about_the_insurance.html

    (So, who has the best health care?)
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92419273

  124. 124. misanthropicus

    RE #94/Praetorian:

    [...] History suggests that major new social initiatives have to be perfected over time — and that basic entitlements, once established, are rarely taken away. History bears this out in many instances. [...]

    Pretty, history never suggests, it just happens, and when it does, I tell you it’s doing it with a big thud – you’ll hear this in November 2010 and 2012. Also, stop blowing this cubicle type of phrasing like “suggests” – this should have gone away together with your acnee in the sophomore year -

    Now back to the main thing –
    It’s December 22nd and yesterday I watched a few programs about Ceaucescu’s execution in Romania, and other events of December 1999 in Eastern Europe that closed the communist cycle there (begun in 1945) – and I was striken by how close Obama’s short reign (less than one year) brought us to the period when the commies grabbed the power in all those countries (in 1945-1948) –

    And also I couldn’ help notice how beautifully Obama’s Health Care Reform which creates a new double, class of indentured clients to government services applies the tactics of the communists at that time to get complete control of those societies -

    As I said, I don’t think that it will happen here, yet… good people, beware! The left never misses a good opportunity to strike so…

  125. 125. myth buster

    121. A bit of anachronism there, Fred. Lincoln was dead before all that came to pass. One can certainly wonder what would have turned out differently had Lincoln lived to see the end of his second term.

  126. 126. arthur

    Obama is a moderate, its just that you are so far right that you live in wacko right wing fantasy land and don’t realize it, and that this health care bill is pretty moderate actually, progressive, or liberal would be a universal or one payer system.

  127. 127. Theo Goodwin

    Wright is a racist preacher. He might be a racialist preacher, if anyone knew what that word means. If you doubt that Wright is racist, view the sermons that he sells from his church. He is a racist. No question about it.

  128. 128. Now and Then

    I just have to share something. I’m not one for the hyperbole of the Internet . . . LMAO or ROTLF or “I spewed coffee all over my screen!” It’s just a digital figure of speech, I get it, but I just don’t participate in that particular custom of the community. However, I actually did laugh out loud at something I read here:

    124. misanthropicus:
    “It’s December 22nd and yesterday I watched a few programs about Ceaucescu’s execution in Romania . . . ”

    That is the funniest thing I’ve seen months. What a way to spend the holidays! And not just one program about Ceaucescu’s execution mind you . . . a few! I didn’t know there were “a few.”

    i think we’ve been given a glimpse into the heritage and hysteria of misanthropicus.

    Hang tough, misanthrope. I’m sending you a present – all nine hours of Shoah. It’s sure to brighten up your household this Christmas. Dare to dream, misanthro. Dare to dream.

  129. 129. Praetorian

    #124 misanthropicus wrote: “It’s December 22nd and yesterday I watched a few programs about Ceaucescu’s execution in Romania”

    Maybe this is why the girls don’t like you. You’re just freaking weird! It’s gonna be a rough eight years for you buddy. You can be sure that in 2012 when Obama is handily re-elected I’ll be here to gleefully pour salt on your wound.

  130. 130. misanthropicus

    RE #128 N&T:

    [...] we’ve been given a glimpse into the heritage and hysteria of misanthropicus. [...]

    Hehehe – N&T when it comes to hysteria, it’s surely you who makes for a superb illustration -
    Yet your hystrionics may not be that unjustified, actually – when one looks at the abysmal situation of Obama’s presidency, and considers its even more miserable prospects he/she will understand why a pathological Obamaton like you goes ballistic when sees my assessment:

    [...] Ceaucescu’s execution [...] that closed the communist cycle there (begun in 1945) – and I was striken by how close Obama’s short reign (less than one year) brought us to the period when the commies grabbed the power in all those countries [...]

    N&T’s nightmares… … ticking… ticking… creeping on the wall… now Kevin Johnson’s joined Kevin Jennings in Obama’s closet… ticking… ticking… Michelle has to do some ‘splanations in Walpin case… ticking… ticking… Copenhagen summit’s garbage… so is the health care… the NYC terros lawsuit hasn’t even began yet… the Dems flee from Obama’s ship… the 2010 elections will be a complete debacle for the liberals… ticking… ticking… then the 2012 will be even more uglier… and the impeachment for presidential illegitimacy has reared again its ugly head… ticking… ticking…

    Bad year you had, N&T, and 2010 looks even more uglier -

    Life is beautiful -

  131. 131. Jim Baker

    #123,
    Are you not able to look past your own ideological constipation( whatever that means) and see that when people think they are spending other people’s money, for example a non-profit insurer, they don’t care what the service costs? And how is a so called non-profit insurance company going to hold down costs any better than an actual insurance company? Sorry Fred, your turn.

    #128,
    Go play in the street, child.

    #129,
    You won’t be anywhere.

  132. 132. misanthropicus

    Re #129/Praetorian:

    [...] Maybe this is why the girls don’t like you. You’re just freaking weird! It’s gonna be a rough eight years for you buddy. You can be sure that in 2012 when Obama is handily re-elected [...]

    Prettie, nice to hear the beads of your designer sandals rattlin’ around!
    After I told about that Mameluk dildo museum in Cairo you just vanished – now you’re back in the country, hope you got some great dildos from their shop for yourself, Kevin Jennings and N&T -

    As far as dba Obama’s reelection in 2012, curb your enthusiasm kid – in 2012 Obama’s going to spend long days with Robert Bauer in the prison visitation room exploring the best way to handle the swindling and charlatanie charges for raising $ 700 millions for electoral purposes while FULLY AWARE that he wasn’t constitutionally eligible for the position he was running for -

    Nice – Bernie Madoff, you have a new room mate – Bernie, here’s Barry Soetoro, you guys you figure who’s gonna sleep in the upper bed – you’ll sure have some great time swapping stories about the good ol’ days on the street -

    By the way, prettie – you live in the same ACORN dorm with N&T – how do you do with the beds?

  133. 133. Now and Then

    130. misanthropicus:

    You never fail to deliver.

  134. 134. Now and Then

    132. misanthropicus:

    I figure it out! misanthropicus isn’t a person at all. He’s a cyber, an avatar coded to repurpose editorial content from Rush Limbaugh’s cell phone. But the network has been rerouting his queries to a mishmash of servers – one from Fox News, one from The Nightmares of Commodore Belinsky, and a third from Man Inches.com.

    Garbage in. Garbage out . . . or as you might say . . . “110100100100100100101010010010101010111010100110101001010010110101010″

  135. 135. misanthropicus

    RE #128, 133, 134/ N&T:

    Hehehe – I just issued a modest opinion, and now, WOW! There they come hollering from the foggy swamp -
    Nice -

  136. 136. tammyyy

    I don’t know if I’d call it a socialist revolution. Most developed nations swing between some social safety nets to heavy government involvement in the economy. But even China now days is allowing free markets to develop their economy.
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Bowtrol-Colon-Cleanse-Review—Does-Bowtrol-Cleanse-Work?&id=2926555

  137. 137. Michael

    All we have to do is remember who we are, wake up and pull on our boots and take back our country. No signs, songs, or sissy marches. Yes it will be ugly but can you say it is not ugly already? Take it back or kiss it goodbye those are your choices. Forget the ballot it has been co opted long ago. Want it to improve. Prove it.

  138. 138. Now and Then

    137. Michael:

    Gee, Michael, what exactly are you suggesting? Boots? Is that a euphemism for something? Not voting? If you don’t vote, then what’s left? And who will lead this boot thing? Sarah Palin? I think she’s on a private jet to Hawaii. Newt Gingrich? He’s boinking his assistant on the office desk while his wife sits in the hospital recovering from cancer. Rush? He’s down in Honduras with a false Viagra prescription tapping into the local population of underage prostitutes. Mark Sanford? He’s hiking the Appalachian Trail. David Vitter? He’s down on Bourbon Street getting diapered by a $40 hooker. John Ensign? He’s still begging mommy and daddy to pay off the husband of his lover. John McCain? No, you’ve all said he was the worst possible choice for leader. Mitt Romney? He’s busy tying the family dog to the top of the car. Michelle Bachmann? She’s counting the money from the government handouts to the family farm. John Boehner? He’s been shuttled off the the asylum to recover from the nervous breakdown he had over the tanning bed tax. Sean Hannity? He’s too preoccupied with dodging his pledge to be waterboarded for charity.

    Come to think of it, you should stick with boots.

  139. 139. misanthropicus

    RE #138/Now and Then:

    %44 approval rating – the polar caps melt down, and so does Obama’s ratings -
    Superb times a’comin’ for impeachment for constitutional fraud and usurpation -
    Life is beautiful -

  140. 140. myth buster

    138. Be careful what you say to the men with guns. Giving up on the ballot box mean resorting to the ammo box. I also noticed you neglected to say anything against Mike Huckabee.

  141. 141. Now and Then

    140. myth buster:
    I’m a liberal and I have guns. What makes you think I’m alone?

    “I also noticed you neglected to say anything against Mike Huckabee.”

    nothing mire need be said about Hucakabee, and if there is, I’ll let Chuck Norris handle it. i turn to him for guidance. you know he wrote a book! I think it was “karate chop: How to Fix All This Bad Stuff with One Roundhouse Kick of Patriotism.” . . . something like that.

  142. 142. Now and Then

    139. misanthropicus:

    I’d set my goals a little lower to start with, mistythroat. Remember, you’re still 5 months overdue on your Kevin Jennings prediction. Hey, remind me, did he resign yet? (Let me know if you want to double down.)

  143. 143. frank grimes

    “I’m a liberal and I have guns.”

    oh,i know…i’ve seen you shoot:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b6yGkAEsG4

    merry christmas to all blood thirsty,souless,’nutters.

  144. 144. Now and Then

    143. frank grimes:

    At least I didn’t hit an old man in the face.

  145. 145. myth buster

    141. But isn’t badassitude exactly what the rebels would want in a Commander-in-Chief? Laughing at how strong your enemy’s leader is isn’t a wise thing when he’s trying to kill you.

  146. Great, because we’re already bowing to Saudi Kings and Japanese Emperors, so we really don’t need to stand up to any tyrants. Yes it will be ugly but can you say it is not ugly already? Take it back or kiss it goodbye those are your choices.

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