I can only pray when whites become the minority they experience EXACTLY what they put people of color through. It is well deserved.

You need to get the chip off your shoulder and accept that someone needs to in some way right the wrong done to the black race for Jim Crow and Slavery, Jim Crow did a whole lot of bad things in many different ways, and the remenants of those days are still here.

It has only been 40 years. Having a black president doesn’t change the fact that racism against blacks still happen, such as shopping while black and driving while black and being black in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Covert racism is considered socially acceptable considering I see alot of whites subscribe to it. At least in the Jim Crow days whites had enough guts to admit being racist.

I don’t want an apology for slavery, but I do want one not for just Jim Crow but for the atrocious covert racist behavior found in most whites today.

So unless you are asking me to apologize for my ancestors having fought and died in the Union Army, I’m not about to say I’m sorry for anything.

Use your head. The only member of my family in the U.S. PRIOR to the emancipation proclamation was a Jewish tailor living in Boston. He had emigrated from Prussia, a place not known for welcoming Jews. His eldest son, my great-grandfather, served in the union navy, underaged, and fought in the 2nd battle of Fort Fisher, where his ship was partly dismasted and his life at risk. “In response to a coming shell,” he tried to hide his 17 year old face behind the powder bags he was carrying to the guns. He was the first son of the first generation of any of my family born in the U.S. Will African-Americans thank me for his service? Or will the response more likely be even more angry accusation and complaint, perhaps some half-baked boilerplate of Leftist “analysis,” by which his was no service at all to Black Americans?

And I want to know who is going to apologize and pay me for MY ancestor’s bad historical experiences?

–The Quakers in England, one of whom was thrown into “high gaol” in Exeter, with other members of the family driven from their home onto the streets in the dead of winter, and the tools of the trade by which they made their living taken, all because they refused on religious grounds (no sworn oaths) to swear allegiance to Charles II at the Restoration.

–Who will apologize for the centuries of insult and abuse endured by the German Jews of my family, already mentioned, for the pogroms and general anti-semitism (the mother was Austro-Hungarian)they knew everyday before coming to America–where today the most virulent anti-Semites are American Blacks. They owe an apology to my great-grandfather.

–The Scots in my family, who emigrated to Nova Scotia in Canada, I suspect did so in response to the Battle of Culloden and its aftermath, where the wounded were finished off on the battlefield and the English then set out to destroy the clans, banning Gaelic and attacking all elments of the culture to make it “English.”

–How about the Welsh, also my ancestors, who have been battered and oppressed by the English for centuries; surely they deserve an apology?

–And since my name is Saxon in origin, why haven’t the French apologized and paid reparations for Hastings, in 1066, and the cultural holocaust that followed for Anglo-Saxons? And while we’re at it, why are “Racism” and “Imperialism” laid at the door of “Ango-Saxons,” since they had no power in England after 1066? It was transplanted French, and later Dutch and Germans who ran England; crack a history book sometime. Welshmen, Scots, Cornishmen,and Anglo-Saxons–my ancestors–were strong backs and cannon fodder for the British Empire, when they weren’t getting cuffed around by it.

Go back into your ancestry far enough and in the rough-and-tumble world of history you will find both victim and victimizer. Obama’s mother gave him slave-owner blood, as I understand it. His Kenyan father gave him NO American “slave blood.” Based on the “reasoning” being applied in certain parts of the culture, Obama “owes” an apology to black Americans far more than I do; though I suppose I shouldn’t encourage him. It was the ENGLISH who forcibly ended Western slavery, largely due to the heroic determination of William Wilberforce, not the Kenyans. And Muslim Africans, like Obama’s father, were the ones who brutally captured slaves in East and Central Africa for the Arabs, the worst historical slavers of all.

This whole “apology” issue is silly: self-pitying, petulant, morally inane, idiotic, useless, even contemptible. It’s just a prelude to another robbery of the Treasury.

Black Americans have already been given more passionate support, more blood, and more money by their “oppressors” (if you mean the “Western world,” and “whites” in general) than any other victimized group in recorded history. We fought the bloodiest, nastiest war in our own history to settle finally the issue of slavery, after arguing violently over it for decades. Following that(in less than 100 years: nothing in historical time), the KKK was suppressed and we wrote the civil rights laws complete with decades of busing and affirmative action to correct any lingering effects. We have spent an estimated 6 trillion dollars since then on various programs to “alleviate” the “consequences” of slavery and its attendant racism in this country. Nowhere else in history will you find something like this. We owe nothing.

In the majority, the heroes of anti-slavery are white (apologies may be due to Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman), and appear at most of the crucial points. Many struggled for decades and suffered terrible fates. Black Americans owe their THANKS to these whites, who extended the hand of service to the cause of Freedom and legal equality, and sincere friendship in time of need. What the hell is wrong with you?

I look at people all around us today who have truly suffered some horror, who have come to this country, worked hard and succeeded–like my neighbor, Dahlia, whose father and brother were just kidnapped by drug dealers in Juarez, Mexico, and haven’t been seen since–and I’m filled with sympathy and admiration. I look at the Reverend Wrights of this country, their congregants, and apologists, and I feel something else entirely.

This opinion is the cumulative observation of a lifetime–and I have confronted and questioned it all along the line of its development. Don’t bother me with tearful stories of being called a name or being treated “funny;” don’t waste your time with self-serving, manipulative labels you think apply to me, nor with quantums of ideological claptrap.

Just Do the Right Thing: Give It a Rest.

–dck

The problem with free anything is that you do not value what you do not earn. That is the trap of handouts. But simple pulling the programs is not going to work. We need to focus on teaching people how to escape the cycle of poverty and create a welfare system (used for lack of a better word) that rewards work and does not encourage slacking. I guarantee that if the people in section 8 housing had ownership in those homes, they would not trach them.

One person said that the only reason Blacks do not embrass conservatism is because we have been fooled. We I and several of my peers reject the Republican party because there is just enough outward hostility toward us that we feel we are choosing the lesser of two evils. A significant number of Blacks choose not to vote because they figure they lose either way. I figure that too many good people of all racesto give me the vote so I do. Also, to be a Black Republican is to be a sell out in many Black people’s eyes. It is very ironic in that my grandparents and parents support a more prochoice platform, are pro-traditional marriage, love their guns, believe in God, and hold traditional values. The Republivcan should be in the communities pointing out what they have to offer and quell the voices of the loud obnoxious minority in the party.

Finally, Crammer, are you a history professor or something. I really enjoyed reading you perspective.

Do you believe only ‘whites’ are racists though? Do you realize that there are black/latina/Asian/Indian/et al racists?

Do you accept and understand that there were Arabs and Blacks who were slave owners and slave traders? Do you realize there is still slavery going on in Africa and Arab parts of the country? Do you understand that ALL ethnicities have been slaves at one time?

Do you think the word ‘racist’ is akin to saying we are different ‘races’ rather than the HUMAN RACE?

I grew up poor and I was discriminated against for being poor. What about impoverished people of ALL colors?