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		<title>By: ahad ha'amoratsim</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-road-to-hell-is-paved-with-negotiations/#comment-241043</link>
		<dc:creator>ahad ha'amoratsim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel&#039;s obligations were verifiable and were met, but that did not defend Israel from repeated charges that Israel was violating the &quot;spirit&quot; of the accords, by taking actions that the accords in fact permitted. The charges were made by the Arabs (&quot;Palestinian&quot; or otherwise), the UN and the EU, dutifully repeated uncritically by the press, and never refuted by the Clinton White House or by the State Department, who both acted as though the charges were true. Meanwhile, all of the usual culprits a blind eye to Arafat&#039;s actual, verified violation of every single obligation under Oslo, and Pres. Clinton shamelessly tried to cover up the failure to recognize Israel. With friends like these?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel&#8217;s obligations were verifiable and were met, but that did not defend Israel from repeated charges that Israel was violating the &#8220;spirit&#8221; of the accords, by taking actions that the accords in fact permitted. The charges were made by the Arabs (&#8220;Palestinian&#8221; or otherwise), the UN and the EU, dutifully repeated uncritically by the press, and never refuted by the Clinton White House or by the State Department, who both acted as though the charges were true. Meanwhile, all of the usual culprits a blind eye to Arafat&#8217;s actual, verified violation of every single obligation under Oslo, and Pres. Clinton shamelessly tried to cover up the failure to recognize Israel. With friends like these?</p>
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		<title>By: Adina Kutnicki</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-road-to-hell-is-paved-with-negotiations/#comment-239808</link>
		<dc:creator>Adina Kutnicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillel, your article dovetails nicely with Miller&#039;s, as he explains Obama&#039;s cozy relationship with the UN, and the hand that our so called elite plays in the most pernicious hatred of all time - anti-semitism, now masked as anti-zionism - all the while aligning themselves with the most non liberal forces Your analysis though takes us into the realm of pernicious political processes, whose victims are naturally world Jewry.

IF not for the &#039;efforts&#039; of the so called intellectuals, it would be impossible to push forward with the malignant process of negotiations.Further, the rank anti-semitism which drives most of the so called elite, then dovetails precisely with the genocidal barbarians and their &#039;plans&#039; for Israel.

Fast forward to your own reporting beat in Cambridge, MA. Aside from Berkeley, CA, one would be hard pressed to come upon a more loony left bastion of intellectuals than in Cambridge, MA. One can hardly breathe the air at MIT without holding ones nose at the pollutants caused by the likes of Chomsky and his acolytes. 

It is due to the wild ravings of so called intellectuals, perched in the once hallowed halls of academia, which our next generation of leaders are getting their (im)moral compasses.

As the parent of a recent MIT alumni you would be doing me, and I am sure many others, a distinct service if you would expose the real underbelly of Chomsky. 

Aside from a few others, he has been the godfather of anti-zionism/anti-semitism, and anti-Americanism on our campuses, infecting scores of minds in the process.

I know, I know he is born Jewish, so why am I saying he is a virulent anti-semite? One can be both born a Jew AND a rabid anti-semite at the same time.

IF one really wants to understand how THAT works, I refer you to Harvard&#039;s Dr Kenneth Levin, &#039;The Oslo Syndrome:Delusions of a People Under Siege&#039;. Read it and weep.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillel, your article dovetails nicely with Miller&#8217;s, as he explains Obama&#8217;s cozy relationship with the UN, and the hand that our so called elite plays in the most pernicious hatred of all time &#8211; anti-semitism, now masked as anti-zionism &#8211; all the while aligning themselves with the most non liberal forces Your analysis though takes us into the realm of pernicious political processes, whose victims are naturally world Jewry.</p>
<p>IF not for the &#8216;efforts&#8217; of the so called intellectuals, it would be impossible to push forward with the malignant process of negotiations.Further, the rank anti-semitism which drives most of the so called elite, then dovetails precisely with the genocidal barbarians and their &#8216;plans&#8217; for Israel.</p>
<p>Fast forward to your own reporting beat in Cambridge, MA. Aside from Berkeley, CA, one would be hard pressed to come upon a more loony left bastion of intellectuals than in Cambridge, MA. One can hardly breathe the air at MIT without holding ones nose at the pollutants caused by the likes of Chomsky and his acolytes. </p>
<p>It is due to the wild ravings of so called intellectuals, perched in the once hallowed halls of academia, which our next generation of leaders are getting their (im)moral compasses.</p>
<p>As the parent of a recent MIT alumni you would be doing me, and I am sure many others, a distinct service if you would expose the real underbelly of Chomsky. </p>
<p>Aside from a few others, he has been the godfather of anti-zionism/anti-semitism, and anti-Americanism on our campuses, infecting scores of minds in the process.</p>
<p>I know, I know he is born Jewish, so why am I saying he is a virulent anti-semite? One can be both born a Jew AND a rabid anti-semite at the same time.</p>
<p>IF one really wants to understand how THAT works, I refer you to Harvard&#8217;s Dr Kenneth Levin, &#8216;The Oslo Syndrome:Delusions of a People Under Siege&#8217;. Read it and weep&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Claude</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-road-to-hell-is-paved-with-negotiations/#comment-239189</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>typos_R_us: I bet your brain hasn&#039;t yet been washed LMAO

SAF, don&#039;t dream the french part of Belgium has already asked to become our 102nd departement</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>typos_R_us: I bet your brain hasn&#8217;t yet been washed LMAO</p>
<p>SAF, don&#8217;t dream the french part of Belgium has already asked to become our 102nd departement</p>
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		<title>By: Chileno</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-road-to-hell-is-paved-with-negotiations/#comment-238962</link>
		<dc:creator>Chileno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So long as competing claims of sovereignty over Palestine exist, there will never be a negotiated peace. 

To Palestinians, the &quot;Occupied Territories,&quot; are not the West Bank/Gaza, but ALL of Palestine; the occupation did not begin in 1967, but in 1948. Their goal is not compensation, or creating A Palestinian state, it&#039;s creating THE Palestinian state, and governing over all of Palestine.    

Hamas will never stop fighting Israel, as Israeli sovereignty over part of Palestine is incompatible with this goal. Quoting from their charter: 
“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it…”
“… the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it...should not be given up. ”
“There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

Even moderate Arabs who espouse the “one-state” solution are essentially working for the same goal of complete Palestinian governance. The difference is that Hamas would kill the Jews, while the moderates would tolerate them as a minority (realizing that religious minorities have historically not fared well in Muslim-dominated societies). 

Israelis will never dismantle their state voluntarily. Most Israelis would, however, reluctantly accept a return to the pre-1967 borders in exchange for peace. But if Palestinian expectations are not changed, ceding the West Bank/Gaza will not stop the conflict. It&#039;ll be seen as merely one more step on the route to ultimate victory.  

Unless expectations are changed, there is only one possible long-term solution to the conflict: the destruction of one of the two peoples. The Jews so far have the weapons, but not the will to do so. The Palestinians, may have the will, but not the weapons. That equation may radically change if Iran acquires a nuclear device. God help the Israelis if they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So long as competing claims of sovereignty over Palestine exist, there will never be a negotiated peace. </p>
<p>To Palestinians, the &#8220;Occupied Territories,&#8221; are not the West Bank/Gaza, but ALL of Palestine; the occupation did not begin in 1967, but in 1948. Their goal is not compensation, or creating A Palestinian state, it&#8217;s creating THE Palestinian state, and governing over all of Palestine.    </p>
<p>Hamas will never stop fighting Israel, as Israeli sovereignty over part of Palestine is incompatible with this goal. Quoting from their charter:<br />
“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it…”<br />
“… the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it&#8230;should not be given up. ”<br />
“There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”</p>
<p>Even moderate Arabs who espouse the “one-state” solution are essentially working for the same goal of complete Palestinian governance. The difference is that Hamas would kill the Jews, while the moderates would tolerate them as a minority (realizing that religious minorities have historically not fared well in Muslim-dominated societies). </p>
<p>Israelis will never dismantle their state voluntarily. Most Israelis would, however, reluctantly accept a return to the pre-1967 borders in exchange for peace. But if Palestinian expectations are not changed, ceding the West Bank/Gaza will not stop the conflict. It&#8217;ll be seen as merely one more step on the route to ultimate victory.  </p>
<p>Unless expectations are changed, there is only one possible long-term solution to the conflict: the destruction of one of the two peoples. The Jews so far have the weapons, but not the will to do so. The Palestinians, may have the will, but not the weapons. That equation may radically change if Iran acquires a nuclear device. God help the Israelis if they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Someone75</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-road-to-hell-is-paved-with-negotiations/#comment-238896</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some people who are incapable of negotiation. However, that&#039;s a very poor reason to rule it out completely. Everything has to start there.

Besides - you guys present this issue like EVERY Palestinian individual wants EVERY Israeli dead. No. Many Palestinians are against this completely. Unfortunately, there are bad bad people in charge over there.

You can&#039;t condemn the entire country, although you can (and should) condemn the people in power and the extremists who cause all this mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some people who are incapable of negotiation. However, that&#8217;s a very poor reason to rule it out completely. Everything has to start there.</p>
<p>Besides &#8211; you guys present this issue like EVERY Palestinian individual wants EVERY Israeli dead. No. Many Palestinians are against this completely. Unfortunately, there are bad bad people in charge over there.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t condemn the entire country, although you can (and should) condemn the people in power and the extremists who cause all this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry J</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-road-to-hell-is-paved-with-negotiations/#comment-238727</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Negotiations are all about give and take. The Israelis want to live. The Palestinians want all Israelis to die. Can&#039;t they split the difference and have only half of the Israelis die? That would so good faith, at least until the next round of negotiations. /sarcasm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Negotiations are all about give and take. The Israelis want to live. The Palestinians want all Israelis to die. Can&#8217;t they split the difference and have only half of the Israelis die? That would so good faith, at least until the next round of negotiations. /sarcasm</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar the Grump</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-road-to-hell-is-paved-with-negotiations/#comment-238725</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar the Grump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iran is already playing the US with the same type of strategy.   They are willing to show the world one of their nuclear facilities.   Sounds great, yes.   They have 39 others hidden underground and in the mountains.  Do you think that the lady Iran will give us a real look under her dress?   I really don&#039;t think so.   Right now its just up to the ankle boys.

What are they really after?   They want an end to sanctions.   They want to be free to pursue their nuclear ambitions.   They want a free hand to destroy Israel.   Finally they want to control the whole region.

How are we going to negotiate with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iran is already playing the US with the same type of strategy.   They are willing to show the world one of their nuclear facilities.   Sounds great, yes.   They have 39 others hidden underground and in the mountains.  Do you think that the lady Iran will give us a real look under her dress?   I really don&#8217;t think so.   Right now its just up to the ankle boys.</p>
<p>What are they really after?   They want an end to sanctions.   They want to be free to pursue their nuclear ambitions.   They want a free hand to destroy Israel.   Finally they want to control the whole region.</p>
<p>How are we going to negotiate with that?</p>
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		<title>By: TexEd</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-road-to-hell-is-paved-with-negotiations/#comment-238683</link>
		<dc:creator>TexEd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Obama and his Eurinal pimps go to &quot;talk&quot; to Iran, watch Obama&#039;s ineptness when the Iranians pull an Arafat  and demand all sorts of non-negotiable preconditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Obama and his Eurinal pimps go to &#8220;talk&#8221; to Iran, watch Obama&#8217;s ineptness when the Iranians pull an Arafat  and demand all sorts of non-negotiable preconditions.</p>
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		<title>By: robotech master</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-road-to-hell-is-paved-with-negotiations/#comment-238502</link>
		<dc:creator>robotech master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Negotiations have never fixed really any problems in the world... they simply delay war. Sometime delaying a war means that other changes(such in the case of the USSR they go bankrupt) and in it self negotiations did nothing to really create that end result other then keeping the peace until such result was reached.

Negotiations by historic means when applied to israels current problems clearly show that they will fail.... and always fail. I side wishes for something the other side opposes... IE one sides wishes to live the other side demand death. Neither side is willing to move on this core and most important issue. So we wait...and delay through the &quot;peace-process&quot;. This delay only helps one side gaza/west bank and hurt israel&#039;s. Israel like the US needs to throw off the leeches and stand up and tell them they need to figure it out themselves. However if they get stupid were going to throw some salt on you and show you just how bad it can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Negotiations have never fixed really any problems in the world&#8230; they simply delay war. Sometime delaying a war means that other changes(such in the case of the USSR they go bankrupt) and in it self negotiations did nothing to really create that end result other then keeping the peace until such result was reached.</p>
<p>Negotiations by historic means when applied to israels current problems clearly show that they will fail&#8230;. and always fail. I side wishes for something the other side opposes&#8230; IE one sides wishes to live the other side demand death. Neither side is willing to move on this core and most important issue. So we wait&#8230;and delay through the &#8220;peace-process&#8221;. This delay only helps one side gaza/west bank and hurt israel&#8217;s. Israel like the US needs to throw off the leeches and stand up and tell them they need to figure it out themselves. However if they get stupid were going to throw some salt on you and show you just how bad it can be.</p>
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		<title>By: LynnS</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-road-to-hell-is-paved-with-negotiations/#comment-238404</link>
		<dc:creator>LynnS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No peace will ever be possible until someone, anyone, stands up and says to the Palestinians “Wanting Israel dead is a non-starter position.” 

The Arab/Muslims and the Muslims believe they have good reason to want Israel to die.  How can one take their good reasons away, when they stretch back in history as far back as they choose, to a time where a Jewish Person according to them lied, cheated, humiliated, scorned, and stole from a good Muslim?  

So called Palestinians are fed the reasons to want Israel to be wiped from the face of the earth by the whole of the Middle East and beyond.  When negotiating with them the world in negotiating with an imaginary partner who does not exist, but is very demanding, even more so than someone real.  They have been made-up to make the fight seem as if it is Giant Israel against the tiny palastinians.  It is not the child David against Goliath but Giant David against a child.

It is actually a clever strategy that the world has swallowed hook line and sinker.  The Muslim world is just reeling us in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No peace will ever be possible until someone, anyone, stands up and says to the Palestinians “Wanting Israel dead is a non-starter position.” </p>
<p>The Arab/Muslims and the Muslims believe they have good reason to want Israel to die.  How can one take their good reasons away, when they stretch back in history as far back as they choose, to a time where a Jewish Person according to them lied, cheated, humiliated, scorned, and stole from a good Muslim?  </p>
<p>So called Palestinians are fed the reasons to want Israel to be wiped from the face of the earth by the whole of the Middle East and beyond.  When negotiating with them the world in negotiating with an imaginary partner who does not exist, but is very demanding, even more so than someone real.  They have been made-up to make the fight seem as if it is Giant Israel against the tiny palastinians.  It is not the child David against Goliath but Giant David against a child.</p>
<p>It is actually a clever strategy that the world has swallowed hook line and sinker.  The Muslim world is just reeling us in.</p>
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