Van Jones, the Red ‘Green Czar,’ Is a Truther Too
By the time you read this, if the Obama administration is smart, Van Jones and the guys who vetted him will be leaving government to spend more time with their families.
In another example of either poor administration vetting of appointees or atrocious judgment, the administration made Van Jones their “green czar” (special advisor for green jobs at the White House Council on Environmental Quality).
In the past few days he’s been revealed on tape calling the president’s opponents by a vulgar term for which he apologized on Wednesday to Politico. But that’s small potatoes.
In 2005 Jones told the East Bay Express that the acquittal of Rodney King’s assailants in 1992 in that infamous police brutality case changed him significantly. “I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th,” he said. “By August, I was a communist.” Jones and other young activists in 1994 formed a group called Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement, or STORM, rooted in Marxism and Leninsm[sic].
In 2004, he signed a petition which demanded an investigation into what the Bush administration knew about 9/11 before it occurred, indicating that they allowed the attack to provide a pretext for war. Denying he was a “truther” and claiming he’d signed the petition without reading it or understanding its meaning (qualifying him, I suppose, for Congress), he has been caught acting as a truther long before his signature appears on the petition.
In a statement issued Thursday evening Jones said of “the petition that was circulated today, I do not agree with this statement and it certainly does not reflect my views now or ever.” He did not explain how his name came to be on the petition. An administration source said Jones says he did not carefully review the language in the petition before agreeing to add his name.
Whoever advanced that Jones defense did so without much investigation — or under the assumption that a supine press wouldn’t check it out either. Wrong again.
Yesterday, news broke out that Barack Obama’s communist Green Czar was a 9-11 Truther. The administration much later in the day released a statement saying Van Jones was “not now or ever” involved in the 9-11 Truther movement.
Jones said the petition he signed in 2004 did not reflect his views and that he did not carefully review the language in the petition before agreeing to add his name.
Not true.
This article at Rense.com from 2002 links Van Jones to the 9-11 Truther movement at its infancy.
Van Jones is another stellar example of charisma over substance in the Obamanation. The dogmatic renditions of covering up the politicians’ past, feigning centralism, good old fashion bold face lieing, staying tough on subject, and feeding the moonbats is what it takes to add new colors to the American flag. Hopefully the MSM will adore him as a posterboy for the radical administration. Then the policies and promises will become clear to the public.
They never stop lying do they.
Protect and love the ones you have. It will be all your happiness.
Van Jones, smirky & cocky, is obnoxious enough, right on the surface.
But one of his less overt comments might be the greatest cause for concern, the one where he described his job in this administration as “…community organizing within the federal family”.
Jones has, more or less, let the cat out of the bag & given an impression that he is not averse to using the machinery of federal government for the destruction of the representative Republic and its replacement with something more akin to the Communist’s ideal of human organization.
Obama has a problem with his fellow travelers, Ayers, Wright and now Jones. The press is distracted by the tingles running up their legs and can’t bother commenting on Van Jones political proclivities and radical roots. Barack shows poorly in his selction of chums.
Jones is simply more proof of what a tin ear the Kenyan has. Obama has lived and believed for so long that all the world’s problems are caused by evil whitey. Rev Wright confirmed that belief and Obama saw nothing wrong with that input and probably doesn’t to this day. Obama again confirmed that belief with his comments about the Boston cop who arrested another black racist, Gates.
The racial friction in this nation is caused by the black racists who see profit in keeping that process going. That Obama appointed just another black racist is not surprising, he’s appointed lots of them and when the ACORN folks begin moving to government jobs on the death panels, we’ll see a lot more. The terrible part is that Obama may not realize that he is being a black racist, although, that may just be giving the Kenyan the benefit of the doubt.
There is a very good reason why Van Jones got through the so-called vetting process: the vetters essentially agree with him! This man is not saying anything particularly shocking to many of those closely associated with Barack Obama. This is truly a administration that adheres to the radical doctrines of Saul Alinsky and Martin Luther King, Jr. In many respects, the vetters are probably stunned that anyone thinks Jones is something of an extremist. In their way of looking at the world, only those advocating outright violence are truly extreme.
Obama said we would know what he is by the company he keeps. Amen.
As far as I am concerned, Van Jones IS the Obama position. It boggles the mind how Obama got elected given the filth of friends and associates he had and has. It should not surprise anyone at all that Obama functions as a socialist-communist; these are the very ideas he has learned and practiced even before he was elected.
Each and every congressman that thinks and acts like Obama is guilty of being that which we have come to abhor. Obama is in our political system a fly in the ointment.
Fox news has reported that there are over 30 of these “Czars” at work in the west wing offices of the White House. If the rest of them were “vetted” in the same fashion as Van Jones we have to expect more stench from this administration. What other creepy crawly things are going to emerge from beneath the rock? It seems every time an unbiased light get shined on Obama and his pals we get another shock to the system.
I don’t know about the rest of America, but I’ve had about as many shocks as I can stand. It’s time to take America back from these crooks and crazies.
“Van Jones is either stupid or crazy. He needs to go — and fast.”
Agreed! He’s as stupid and/or crazy as the birthers, death-panelers and all the rest of the wackos out there.
I will surround myself with the best, tax doggers, communists, socialists, abortionists, they will represent who I am.
The Americans voted him in knowing most of his attitudes, Ayers, Wright etc.
His racist remarks about whites killing immigrants and minorities should be enough for a resignation, but his being a member of the tin-foil 9/11 truther movement is so over the top, he has to go.
It would appear Obama will have to ask him to resign, and replace him with a more mainstream advisor like Ward Churchill.
What other creepy crawly things are going to emerge from beneath the rock?
Let me introduce you to another of Obama’s Czars, “science advisor” John Holdren
Of course, Holdren has recently repudiated his own ideas just as Van Jones has been scrambling the past few days to repudiate his own (very recent) statements. (e.g., “How the heck did my name get to be #46 on that brain dead TRUTHER petition? Don’t I know what I sign?”)
John Holdren…Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet
After spending some time with John Holdren, maybe you’ll want to meet Obama’s “diversity” guy over at the FCC, Mark Lloyd.
Or maybe not
Please.
Karl Rove didn’t get fired for saying that “Liberals saw the savagery on 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers”.
Dick Cheney didn’t get fired for authorizing the leak of the name of a covert CIA agent.
None of the nutcase GOP Senators or Representatives have been impeached over any of this “birther” nonsense.
The only reason Van Jones is a target is because an organization he doesn’t even work for anymore humiliated your prophet Glenn Beck by exposing him as a racist moron and persuading 57 sponsors to quit his pathetic comedy hour.
It must truly outrage you idiots that smearing someone as a communist is simply not enough to ruin somebody’s career in this day and age. The GOP these days is nothing more than a bunch of finger pointing brown shirt weasels.
“The Americans voted him in knowing most of his attitudes, Ayers, Wright etc.”
That’s not accurate. The middle of the road voters underestimated its importance. Obama’s minions successfully conned them into believing, for instance, that Bill Ayer’s was just some guy who lived down the street. Obama really didn’t know the committed leftist and was only being polite when seeing him at a public event.
Charles at LGF seems to be looking for reasons to excuse Van Jones for signing the 2004 petition. Never mind the 2002 petition. Charles is a useful idiot.
There are times when things are said in the heat of passion and the moment that are regrettable, but not criminal. However, this guy seems to have a pattern not in line with our values, both as a government and a nation. The author is correct. Jones should be removed. However, I think #4 has it wrong, Obama and his administration have no ties to rev wright or mr. ayers.
Here’s another good analysis of the “situation”:
http://spectator.org/archives/2009/09/04/the-real-van-jones-scandal-why
• What did the Obama White House know about Van Jones and when did they know it?
• Who on the White House staff cleared Van Jones?
• What was that person’s connection to Van Jones or Mr. Jones’s political sponsor?
• Who, exactly, was Mr. Jones’ sponsor for this job? How much money did he/she contribute to the Obama campaign?
• Did the Secret Service notify anyone on the White House staff — or the President or First Lady or Vice President Biden — that Mr. Jones had an arrest record on file with police in two cities?
• Did the Secret Service protest any of this, objecting to Mr. Jones’ clearance?
• If the Secret Service did object, who overruled them? The President? The Chief of Staff? Someone else?
• If the answer to this last question is yes, and the Secret Service was overruled by the President or someone else, why did this happen?
Van Jones is one of many Communists within the Obama Inner Circle. One czar wants to sterilize half the population through the water system & refers to babies as “tumors.” Another czar believes that global warming is true without any evidence to prove his ideas. Almost all of Obama’s czars are Communist thugs. What does this say about Obama? President Obama is a Communist.
President Obama is creating many of his own problems, but Obama cannot see it. This Fall is going to be the start of a very bumpy ride that is going to get more contentious as time goes on. The people have already had enough of President Obama after only 8 months…!
well written.i’ll have to check out some of your other work.
as far as van jones,i hope obama keeps putting these types of people in his administration.
pure RED MEAT.
Do you see a similarity between Jones and the older and more articulate Obama? Obama has more sense than to write things down about his communist beliefs but as Valerie Jarret said on a Glenn Beck audio, “We have had our eyes on Van Jones for a long time and are happy to have him on our team”. VJ is and has been an advisor to both of the Obama’s so they were all aware of his views. Another curiosity is the event that turned Jones from a radical to a communist was the beating of a fleeing criminal high on meth. Has he not seen the oppression in China, Venesuela, Russia, the Balkin states where innocent protesters are routinely beaten and arrested?
One other thing he has in common with Dear Leader is that he is a racist.
I don’t believe there was any vetting process for Jones or any of King O’s cronies. These folks were hand picked probably by O, Rahm and Sores.
Jones may be feeling some heat but I’ll bet he’ll still have a seat at the table no matter his title. This group is impervious to scrutiny and King O never apologizes for his or his pal’s past transgressions.
Stay focussed and keep your eye on 2010.
So… by contemporary conventional wisdom, doesn’t this make Jones a “Birther” too?
I mean, since that trope was a direct descendant of the “Truther” meme – via Charles Johnson’s “Nirther” ad hom, inspired by Philip Berg’s alter ego as a “9/11 Truther”.
The whack jobs Baracki purposefully surrounds himself with speaks volumes.
Czardy har har har.
The suprise is that most of us did not know how loony the academic and “revolutionary” left have become in the past few years, and that these ideas, and the ideas of Mark Lloyd, Holdren, et al, are the leftist orthodoxy.
16. Steve:
Seconded. He’s a good example of someone so drunk on his one success in life, he thinks he’s brilliant. These days it’s all “nirthers” and creationists. How banal. His 15 minutes are over.
Well, it’s Friday afternoon, with a long weekend coming up too. Perfect time for 0bama to drop some big news.
The exposing of Van Jones is very important. If this story builds steam, the media will not be able to ignore investigation into the other radical czars. Once the backgrounds of these Czars are exposed, the attention will solely be on Obama’s abuse of the executive branch.
“Van Jones is either stupid or crazy. He needs to go — and fast.”
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All of the above.
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Yes, shades of Pauline Kael’s “analysis” of the 1972 election. But, don’t forget, the only “echo chamber” in American politics is on the right.
Clinton had “bimbo eruptions” – former girlfriends going embarassingly public. Obama seems to have these radical bimbo eruptions on a regular basis. What to call them? ‘rimbo eruptions’? Or if they are communist bimbos how about ‘combo eruptions’?
Feldman. Given your upside down ideas about the truth, being called a liar by the likes of you is closer to a compliment than a criticism. Here is the context of the remark Jones made about being a “communist”.
Jones began transforming his politics and work in the aftermath of a crisis that coincided with the primary election in March 2000. He was campaigning hard against California Proposition 21, a ballot initiative that increased the penalties for a variety of violent crimes and required more juvenile offenders to be tried as adults. Several activist groups united to organize young people into sit-downs, rallies, and protests. But Jones said the coalition ultimately imploded “in the nastiest way you can ever imagine.”
…the movement fell apart in the glare of the limelight. The groups fought over grant money and over who deserved credit for various successes. When the voters went ahead and approved the proposition anyway, Jones took a big step back.
“I saw our little movement destroyed over a lot of shit-talking and bullshit,” he said. “It just seemed like an ongoing train crash that was calling itself a political movement. It was much more destructive internally than anyone was talking about, and much less impactful externally than anyone was willing to admit.”
“I realized that there are a lot of people who are capitalists — shudder, shudder — who are really committed to fairly significant change in the economy, and were having bigger impacts than me and a lot of my friends with our protest signs,” he said.
First, he discarded the hostility and antagonism with which he had previously greeted the world, which he said was part of the ego-driven romance of being seen as a revolutionary. “Before, we would fight anybody, any time,” he said. “No concession was good enough; we never said ‘Thank you.’ Now, I put the issues and constituencies first. I’ll work with anybody, I’ll fight anybody if it will push our issues forward. …
the progressive left’s insistence on remaining a counterculture destroys its potential as a political movement. “One of my big heroes is Malcolm X, not because I agree with Malcolm, but because he wasn’t afraid to change in public,” he said.
he had pulled away from spirituality during his communist days. During his 2000 crisis, he looked for answers in Buddhism, the philosophy known as deep ecology, and at open-minded institutions such as the East Bay Church of Religious Science.
“I’m confused half the time about what I’m doing, but none of the things that leftists use to discipline each other into marginality have any power over me anymore,” he said. “It’s like, ‘Oh, you’re working with white people.’ Or ‘Who are you accountable to?’ A lot of the things that we say to each other to keep anybody from getting too uppity, too effective, I just don’t listen to anymore. I care about the progressive movements as they are, but I mainly care about all of our movements becoming a lot bigger and a lot stronger.”
Given that your addle minded following version of history begins and ends with Ronald Reagan, the accusation of “communist” or socialist still has some resonance. However, you’ll find that Jones disavowed those beliefs quite publicly.
You are the liar. And not a very smart one.
#27…the news has already been dropped, 9.7 % unemployment. Good thing the catastrophe preventing stimulus kept it from going over 8.0% as promised.
This black turd isn’t going anywhere.
Barry and Michelle think that this is real vision. What do you expect from the Obama’s.
I don’t share the Obama’s “values” nor do I want those illiterate pigs speaking to my child about their values.
Dale:
you make two references that are ill thought out. One is the impeachment of the birthers in Congress? We voted them into office and we can vote them out. Mr. Jones was appointed by the President and sworn in by who….who…
Second, you said that we are smearing Jones as a Communist. Jones is a self proclaimed communist, so we do not need to smear.
Well, it’s Friday afternoon, with a long weekend coming up too. Perfect time for 0bama to drop some big news.
Actually, between his Dear Leader addresses to the captive kiddies and a joint session of Congress next week, the administration need only survive this little dust-up through today before Van Jones drops off the radar. The Democrat ‘press’ has already signaled that they aren’t going to cover the story, so Van Jones will probably make it through the weekend. Obama will keep him around just to give the country the middle finger, unless for some reason the MSM lets him down and it gets really hot, then of course he’ll throw him under the bus.
Hopefully, though, Van Jones will help out by disobeying Obama and speaking out over the next few days, telling us exactly what he thinks about whitey.
Just how many black racists does Obama need to buddy up with before the ditzy hair-twirlers and ball-scratchers finally get a clue?
Van Jones is a gift that keeps on giving.
Although he now says that he somehow signed a letter accusing the Bush administration of orchestrating or being complicit in 9/11 without really knowing what the letter’s contents were, he apparently was comfortable enough with this accusation to be on the organizing committee for a Truther march in San Francisco the he himself marched in(see http://www.rense.com/general18/march.htm).
Not only this, but he is also one of the supporters of the “free Mumia Abu-Jamal movement” designed to stop the long overdue (20+ years) execution of a black Phiadelphia cop killer, who became a Muslim in jail and became a far left “cause celebre.”
It makes you wonder which does a better job of turning you into a left-wing radical? The american prison system or american universities?
As he stated, it was his time in prison that turned him into a communist and environmental activist.
No, no, no, Clarice. The idea of the productive green jobs is very much alive. Next week, the president will announce the pogram whereby all citizens will spend four hours daily pedaling on a bicycle frame hooked to a network for generating electricity. Those who are unable to do this-well, refer to our health pogram.
Problem solved-green jobs created, planet saved, health care issue settled!
#31….Let’s call them commie eruptions. It amazes me how much damage Obama, Reid and Pelosi have done to the Dem brand in such a short period of time.
Gallup reported yesterday that Dem party recognition has fallen 12 points since January. The GOP fall was gradual, but this is like a falling knife for the Dems.
I don’t share the Obama’s “values” nor do I want those illiterate pigs speaking to my child about their values.
I share your sentiment and concern; I don’t want you talking to your kids either.
Obama is doing exactly what he said he was going to do when he campaigned. He downplayed any of his radical associations but did not deny any of them. He is clearly a Marxist and surrounds himself with the people of the same ilk. He’s clearly a product of the Chicago/Illinois Political Machine. The only thing good is that he’s his own worst enemy when he speaks without his prompter. The next election cycle will determine the future cours of the USA.
“I’m confused half the time about what I’m doing, but none of the things that leftists use to discipline each other into marginality have any power over me anymore,” he said.
Right. Just what we need – more ‘czars’ who don’t know what they’re doing half the time.
And we know this must be fact because marxists never lie to get what they want.
(leftist deflection in 3… 2… 1…)
And we know this must be fact because marxists never lie to get what they want.
Given the history of political deception from every single party or group to ever exist, this is a particularly stupid remark.
I love his Green Czar and hope he stays for a week or two and does more damage to the reputation of The One.
Bingo!
“…every single party or group to ever exist, …”
Deflection right on cue.
Alfonzo Rachel (“President Zobama”) has a delightful piece on PJTV: UNDER MY BUS
Please, Mr. Rachel, add one more paragraph to your lyrics, assuming there is still some room left under the bus, just for Van Jones, he really earned it!
43.goy.six minutes…..not bad.
MOHO-Just here to remind you today that your Messiah got his start in politics turning tricks for the slumlord…where he didnt neglect the teabag, he was quite attentive and well paid for his skills.
It is evident to me, from the inexplicable death spiral of the Obama administration that even with the absolute support of the media, and administration can lose support with crass stupidity.
To be fair, Bush displayed this to us as well.
My question to you, my fellow malcontents and dastardly townhallers, is this:will we lose our libertarian and antiauthoritarian cajones when the republicans take over again? Can we stand athwart history and say no! when our guys are making the big plays?
Why are there no articles about this? I was very happy when I found PJM, and its been entertaining to abuse the trolls, but we need to start talking in serious terms about how as a movement we maintain the integrity of the party which has failed us. And the failure of that party is a stain on our movement. One more strike on our part, and I think thing the next pendulum shift could be fatal for our country. Sincerely, Billslayer.
Here’s Van Jones comparing George Bush to a “crackhead”.
http://www.breitbart.tv/van-jones-uses-ebonics-to-do-lively-imitation-of-george-bush-on-crack/
MOHO:
Please, be a pal and go back under the rock.
Why are we surprised by this latest revelation? His (Obama-sans) entire life history is an encylcopedia of radical Left activists.
MOHO: Please shut up. You are a puerile, pimply, snot-nosed pest. Don’t you get it?
Nobody is impressed by your bulls..t.
Get back into the freak and under the rock.
Est-ce que comprennez, putz?
What are the “czars” President Obama is appointing? Do they have authority? They are not the head of agencies, like the EPA, where they would have to be approved of by Congress. It seems to me that they are unconstitutional. Congress could get rid of them by at least refusing to vote any funds for them.
bills–>this kind of talk may get your husband hot and bothered, but it doesn’t do a thing for me.
Goy. Calling you stupid is not a deflection. It is simply a well-resourced fact. Control alt F “goy”.
Keep the red czar and Biden around…make the nailing of the coffin last until 2010.
My only objection to the article and some of the comments is to the formulaic “demand” that Obama fire Van Jones. We should just be interested in exposing this administration, not helping it to mainstream itself; nor should we be pretending that it cares about our demands. The normal assumptions about petitioning our government will just cloud our thinking–Progressives care about advancing history, not dialogue with the people, and we act and speak in ways that show this Administration to be in fundamental ways un-American
re your video, it’s funny, clarice, not so funny…painfully obvious…
People like Van Jones, Barack Obama, “we have to save the planet” Pelosi, Al Gore (the list is endless) are among the biggest consumers and wasters of fossil fuels on the planet.
(did you read of the sheer logistical support, 5 helicopters, security for the president’s $24,000 date night in NYC ?)
These people travel around the planet, eating lobster in 5- star hotels, condemning the energy that allows them their lifestyles…
They get away with it, as their base is too dumb to make this or any other connection.
My first impressions. It’s telling that the boy is still employed. I guess anyone can graduate from a law school. Can the unemployment rate exceed ten percent when the unemployed are removed from the data base on a weekly basis? Is he a product of comparable worth or was he a random accident? And does it even matter?
Jones is on our side. He reminds me of Rev. Wright, and what the BLT Church stands for. I like him.
Once our allies the Left, self hating white crackers, and the BLT followers, are the only ones left to oppose the religion of peace, there really will not be anyone to stand up to the warriors of allah.
Don’t forget your Friday prayers, and Death to the Great Satan! Also, it is to bad Mohamed,(SBOH), is not here to see you fools give away your once strong country to the likes of Obama, and company. LOL!
Love, and Kisses
OBL.
If I was Obama I would keep VJ. Glenn Beck would just move on to the next green-pinko in the administration. VJ would be like Hillary was in the Clinton addmistration, a bad distraction. Bad press that is close but deflected away from Obama himself.
#47, Zo rocks
I love this song (you’ve probably heard it) about the US representative whose lending initiatives likely did the most to bring on the housing debacle.
Barney (Banking Queen) Frank
(speaking of crooks and liars, both the WaPo and house minority leader, John Boehner, have called for Charlie Rangel to step down; Nancy P has been covering for Charlie for over a year, but the latest revelations make it impossible. God willing, the same would happen to Van Jones, although Obama’s instinct will be to hang onto the guy)
TO: All
RE: THIS Guy?!???!?!?!?
Heck!
This whole [mis]‘administration’ is ‘toast’.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. And if some people don’t do SOMETHING about it….rather soon….this whole COUNTRY will join them…..
….but I suspect that was part of the Obama administration ‘Plan’ in the first place…..
P.P.S. If you ‘challenge’ my understanding of this administration’s ‘Plan’…..please….PUHLEASE!!!!!….provide evidence of ONE SINGLE MAJOR PROGRAM that has improved Life in America…..
…..GO ON….
….I DEFY you…..
MOHO-I dont think that your messiah is gay, I just think that he’s…morally flexible. Now go cut yourself and relive the childhood traumas that made you the 400 lb shut in that your are.
TO: All
RE: By the Way….
….IF my allegation/understanding IS ‘correct’, i.e., that Obama’s purpose is to destroy America….
….will he be the first president to be executed for “treason and high crimes”? And what would the process to get him there look like?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Prior Planning Prevents P--- Poor Performance. -- Army staff puke axiom]
More Van Jones…
You’ve never seen a Columbine done by a black child
What a crock ‘o crapola that individual is.
Day by day more evidence accumulates to prove that the President has surrounded himself with persons of questionable ethics and of questionable loyalty to this country. Instead we have bureaucrats who put forth ideas already disproven, e.g. “cash for clunkers” which benefitted Toyota more so than any American manufacturer. The President is not a leader. He is a follower; a follower of Rahm Emanuel who appears to be calling the shots with the President as an obliging front man. Now he wants to invade the classroom, becoming the great “father” to our children. He is lacking in principle as well as lacking in ability.
Mo(hommedan)Ho:
“However, you’ll find that Jones disavowed those beliefs quite publicly.
You are the liar.”
No, you are the liar. All Jones disavowed was the Black Pantherite street-revolution stuff: he remains an unapologetic Communist.
This is what he had to say just last February:
“Right after Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat if the civil rights leaders had jumped out and said, ‘OK now we want reparations for slavery, we want redistribution of all the wealth, and we want to legalize mixed marriages.’ If we’d come out with a maximum program the very next day, they’d been laughed at. Instead they came out with a very minimum. ‘We just want to integrate these buses.’
“But, inside that minimum demand was a very radical kernel that eventually meant that from 1964 to 1968 complete revolution was on the table for this country. And, I think that this green movement has to pursue those same steps and stages. Right now we say we want to move from suicidal gray capitalism to something eco-capitalism where at least we’re not fast-tracking the destruction of the whole planet. Will that be enough? No, it won’t be enough. We want to go beyond the systems of exploitation and oppression altogether. But, that’s a process and I think that’s what’s great about the movement that is beginning to emerge is that the crisis is so severe in terms of joblessness, violence and now ecological threats that people are willing to be both pragmatic and visionary. So the green economy will start off as a small subset and we are going to push it and push it and push it until it becomes the engine for transforming the whole society.”
He is a Communist. A fullblown Workers of the World Unite Red. And, Dale, that’s not a smear. It’s a damning indictment.
Seriously, how much is Soros paying you trolls to defend pinko scum like this?
TO: All
RE: Moho ‘about’ Goy
Actually…..
….Moho is ‘projecting’….again.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. Don’t you love it when the Truth comes out?
It is my understanding that ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSDNC and PBS have not reported on this story. The so called mainstream media is every bit as unethical and corrupt as the administration they consistently protect.
#68 Bohemond…Basically Mr. Jones exposed the clear intentions of the (communist) green movement for all to see. Conservatives should make every effort to make certain every American hears this message from Van Jones so they will better understand the true agenda of the american left and the green movement.
From Slate’s Mickey Kaus:
Van Jones, Gone in 60 Seconds?
Posted Friday, September 04, 2009 12:19 PM | By Mickey Kaus
kf hears today is the day the MSM (not just Tapper) officially turns on Van Jones, the White House “green jobs” adviser who signed a 2004 Truther petition. ‘Gone by midnight’ is the prediction. He’s on the Liverpool Care Pathway! Soon he’ll meet with his death panel and be under the bus! … Obama presumably doesn’t want the controversy to bleed into post-Labor Day Speech Week. … Update: Ambinder’s page hears the same tom toms. … 3:29 P.M.
68
Seriously, how much is Soros paying you trolls to defend pinko scum like this?
They’ve probably been promised jobs “processing” recalcitrant individuals. Being the passive-aggressive sadists with obviously unintegrated personalities that they are, this is probably enough for them and they don’t need much in the way of money. Their parents’ failures are now our society’s problems.
…the true agenda of the american left and the green movement.
The green movement, like the anthropogenic global warming movement, is a cover for the agenda as old style (discredited) communism.
“we will take control”
Listen between the lines to Van Jones who uses his Green Thing for his larger agenda.
Whether or not human beings are trashing the planet (and they are, see esp. China & Russia) is incidental to the notion of using “green” to promote the agenda of Communism.
Like your typical modern progressive’s paean to “compassion”, they neither care about the (poor, inner city, whatever) individual or the planet.
Human caused global warming is the foundational religious principle of the movement and Jones is front and center on that one.
Dale and Moho. If you have children, would you have Van Jones be their mentor?
If anyone in the GOP had any balls, they could expose the entire green movement with this tape of Van Jones, and his communist (greening of the earth) manifesto. Possibly Sen Inholfe is the appropriate candidate to use this tape of Mr. Jones as a learning experience for the american people.
The main problem is that the MSM wouldn’t report it because they are in Van Jones camp.
As always ppl like Clarice Feldman and others are distracted by some minor strawmen created for them to whine about.
Clarice Feldman ignorance is astounding to say the least…while he and others whine about the minor players they completely forget the big picture.
The simple fact is you need to crush the head of the snake… Clarice Feldman and many others are more worried about the rattle…. which of course are strawmen such as “healthcare reform”, Cap and trade, Van jones just to name a few…
They are a hunter walking through the forest and suddenly hear a rattle…. they refuse to see the snake attached to the rattle and instead pull out a knife and try to cut off the rattle… thinking if we can only get rid of that rattle all will be fine and the snake will flee… instead of taking a moment to think that
1. Your not going to kill the snake by cutting off the rattle…
2. You’ve now made a very loud snake into a very stealthy snake…
Going for the rattle is retardation at it best. You need to go for the head of the snake and that is obama and leftism… until you crush the head of the snake its still alive and will still come back to bite you… only every time it will have learned from the last.
Obama learned from clinton… he almost managed to get his leftist stuff through. He like clinton will have to settle for “less” then what they wanted… however they will of course still get some of what they wanted.
The next leftist to come to power will learn from obama mistakes and like the leftists before him push for the same things… he may fail but he was well will get something.
We continue to drift toward communism… defeating “health care reform”, cap and trade and other issues does nothing more then slow our drift toward communism… we need to stop that drift and to turn away from communism… and whining about ppl like van jones while completely giving obama a pass and leftists a pass in general just isn’t going to do that.
…and whining about ppl like van jones while completely giving obama a pass and leftists a pass in general just isn’t going to do that.
Van Jones is significant as an extension of the ethos of Barack Obama.
He was enthusiastically put forward/endorsed by one of Barack’s old, lesser mentioned, pals, Valerie Jarrett.
Jones is more blatant (is so arrogant he can’t control himself) than people like Rahm/Zeke, David Alexrod and the rest of the Chicago on the Potomac crowd.
And so he is an object lesson.
Bonsoir y’all, thanks for the posting, Ms. Feldman…
Van Jones is a mainstream SF Democrat. If that doesn’t wake the rest of you up God help you. And while you’re at it you might want to remember that Jim Jones (ne relation) of mass murder/suicide fame was a mainstream SF Dem beloved for his ability to get out the vote. Same deal.
I think there will soon be dissension between Jones and Obama as they blame one another for their problems. Shakespeare described such a falling out in Troilus and Cressida, a depiction of the Trojan Wars lifted from Homer’s, The Iliad.
Instead of an epic tale of heroism and noble deeds played between mighty warriors of legend, we have a Shakespearean satire that replaces feats of military valor with petty squabbling and base immorality.
The homosexual relationship of Achilles and Patroclus in the original play have been replaced with Obama and Jones, with artistic license by me. Thersites, (played by PJM readers) is a foul mouth camp follower, who torments the two with curses on their sex life.
Act 5, Scene 1 Troilus and Cressida
Achilles and Patroclus in bed (Obama and Jones in bed)with PJM Reader in attendence.
PJM Reader: Prithee be silent, boy… though art thought to be Obama’s male varlet.
Jones: ‘Male Varlet’, you rogue? What’s that?
PJM Reader: Why, his masculine whore. Now the rotten diseases of the south, the guts-griping, ruptures, loads of gravel in the back, lethargies, cold palsies, raw eyes, dirt-rotten livers, wheezing lungs, bladders full of impostume, sciaticas, lime-kilns in the palm, incureabe bone ache, and the riveled fee-simple of the tetter, take and gain such preposterous discoveries! (The life of a male whore)
Jones: Why thou damnable box of envy thou, what mean’st thou to curse thus?
PJM Reader: Do I curse thee?
Jones: Why, no, you ruinous butt, you whore son indistinguishable cur, no!
Apparently VD was rampant among the early 17 th Century Elizabethan male prostitutes and Jones appears to be upset with our insinuations. William has described most of the situations that are present in our world; unfortunately we have been exposed to the sanitized and censored versions and we have no appreciation for the earthiness of Shakespeare. But we can see how WS could have eviscerated the semi-literate personages of Obama and Jones.
To 78. tanstaafl
“Jones is more blatant (is so arrogant he can’t control himself)”
Is he really so much so then others…in the end its still a strawman argument… getting rid of van jones only means that obama finds another van jones that has better camo and can hide under the radar a bit longer until he completes his goals…
Van jones is a significant extension of obama’s ethos as obama fingernail is a significant extension of his arm…
Trimming of van jones may make obama’s fingers look a little weird for a little while but it will grow back and have little to no effect on obama himself. I’m more interested in taking a pound of flesh over taking some fingernail trimming… which is what van jones’ removable will amount too.
As I have said before many times I’d much prefer to have communism next year then communism 20 years from now… which is where were heading. Today we can fight back… in 20 years communism will be accepted as the norm and no one will stand in its way.
# 4 Nozuf:
“Obama has a problem with his fellow travelers, Ayers, Wright and now Jones. The press is distracted by the tingles running up their legs and can’t bother commenting on Van Jones political proclivities and radical roots. Barack shows poorly in his selction of chums.”
A “problem”? You make it sound as if it were an alcohol or pain-killer addiction.
Can one get more naive than you? How many more commie whackos, America-haters do you need to see in Obama’s Cabinet to realize that’s exactly what he wants, that that’s what he’s always been about? That he overestimated the power given to him by his election while, at the same time, he underestimated the power of the new media of finding out what he really stands for?
That he’s been trying hard to circumvent the Constitution with all these latter-day “People’s Commissars”?
You need to read up on some Bolshevik Revolution history. Knowledge is power, mon ami.
Why all the fuss about Van Jones? He is just “another (commie, pinko,radical) guy in the neighborhood.” Like Bill Ayres and like Barrie Soetoro.
“So now we know that Van Jones is a self-professed Communist, a truther, an intemperate partisan, and a liar. What more does it take to persuade the White House that it’s time to depose the red ‘green czar’?”
Why do you assume that the White House would see it as a problem that the public becomes aware of and disturbed by this man’s character and personal goals, and would therefore demand his removal?
The obaMadministration has called me a Nazi (Pelosi); a racist (the AG); part of a mob (don’t remember who); a bitter clinger (obama); part of an downright mean nation (the First Woman); and, who knows what else….I won’t take the space to list all the official positions they have taken against Americans, on air and off.
For them, having this piece of work outed for who he is is just another little frost boil in the pavement. Why on earth would you think this would concern them in terms of PR or function?
Good grief, if they do think he deserves removal then when are they going to remove the 75 others who have preceded him in public ugliness, unAmerican goals and priorities, and destroy-America-first jobs in their past?
We may still have “a form of representative government” but most of us are coming to terms with the fact that we do not actually have representative government any more.
I just reread the Declaration of Independence out loud this afternoon. Reads like today’s “to do” list for patriotic citizens.
65 Chuck Pelto
I keep wondering things along that line.
At this point, I must assume that no one in Congress thinks that he is doing anything wrong, since no one in Congress is doing anything legal/specific to stop him, as in drawing up impeachment charges.
Unless someone with the authority is willing to stop him, there really is no reason to think he will be stopped, is there?
Sorry for the elemental reasoning/language, but it actually is that basic.
I finally figured it out: Mom’s House.
Van Jones IS the real Obama
I don’t think that Obama will fire Jones; he’ll keep him, because Obama, as a Messiah, cannot accept criticism – and he chose Jones.
Obama will do his usual tactic of blaming those who criticize – so, he’ll fob off the blame for the ”wee wee’ about Jones on to FOX and conservatives.
And he’ll say something relativist and meaningless like.. ‘my administration is tolerant of all points of view’. He’ll say this despite Jones’ open adherence to communism, his stupid comments about 9/11 and his attempt to remove himself from that petition..and his open racism where he asserts that ‘whites are poisoning immigrant minorities’ and his ignorant anti-capitalist rants.
You know who SHOULD resign – and as fast as possible? Hillary Clinton. She should get out of this marxist cabal. The Democratic Party has been taken over by a radical marxist gang – and she ought to get out and start to regroup and reform the Democratic Party.
To 88. ETAB:
“I don’t think that Obama will fire Jones; he’ll keep him, because Obama, as a Messiah, cannot accept criticism – and he chose Jones.”
I think obama will “fire” jones as a side show for the easily distracted like distracted ppl like fledman. He will lose his czar job and be replaced by a more acceptable communist. However he won’t lose his power. In a classic slight of hand obama will appease the ADD kids like feldman and simply move jones down to a more private “group” that still has direct control on the “green jobs”. He will become some nameless unaccountable “committee” member who makes 200k a year.
He will still do the job that obama wants him to do the way obama wants him to do it… it will just be alot harder to pin him down on it… once again as I said before to many ppl are going after the rattle on the rattlesnake vs the head of the snake or even the body of the snake.
As for hillary clinton… you do understand that obamacare is based on hillarycare… and that while hillary is still hiding her pro-commie views for another shot at the white house she is pretty much a marxist as well. I doubt anything that obama is doing now hillary has any major problems with expect that obama is being to open about supporting communism and not covering his tracks better.
You will note that the so called mainstream media has not reported on Van Jones being a communist or a 9/11 truther. Does this have anything to do with the MSM being sympathetic to communist and 9/11 truthers?
There would not be a democrat party without the mainstream media propping it up.
Which would the Left like more? Letting President Obama attempt to mesmerize our children next Tuesday–or having the satisfaction of seeing him banned from the schools as absolute proof that he is God.
I finally figured it out
I bet your wife here’s this alot. And is usually disappointed to find that you’re being overly optimistic.
Like ETAB mentioned, he may not fire Jones or it may become an expediency, but I am afraid it is inconsequential. Jones is only a small bit player of a much larger cast. Jones is obvious in his opinions because of his obnoxious and moronic behavior. The rest probably have similar philosophies or worse. This is a politial movement that is being formed into a cult, the Cult of Obama. He assumes that his win has given him the mandate to change this country into his own Utopian Dream and we are going to finance his Dreams.
He is ignoring the will of the people, his party, Congress, and common sense. If Jones is asked to leave or stay is of little significance to Obama, he is on a mission of self. He will recruit loony tunes to help form his own government, the Constitution be damned. There are plenty of Jones’s out there and most of them with less baggage; these are the ones that will probably be more covert and more effective. Jones is a base, intellectually deficient, storm trooper type; that was probably selected to be a diversion for more important and dangerous miscreants.
Now is the time for vigilance, we are in a desperate situation; Obama like Stalin will never be known for cerebral ability, but like Stalin he is a keen political player and capable of treachery. He has suffered setbacks, but has been licking his wounds and planning his recovery. His pride has been assaulted, up till now, he assumed America was mesmerized with his cult-like personality. I think he will come back with whatever he feels is necessary to prevail.
Every victory is important, especially in our predicament; but Jones is a nothing, there are tens of thousands like him with more ability. Be vigilant patriots, be vigilant.
Dale and Moho. If you have children, would you have Van Jones be their mentor?
My son’s a bit old to be looking for a mentor, and I doubt Van Jones will be mentoring him since he’s in the marines and currently stationed in Iraq.
But I actually knew Jones in his communist days, and can tell you that he, like I, shed the bs of the leftist crowd a long time ago. Jones’ work at the Ella Baker Center contributed a hundred times more to goodness in the world than any of you flaccid turds ever will. So yeah, had I the opportunity and inclination to seek out a mentor, Van Jones would be one of the first people I’d seek out. As for your opinion of Jones, I’d venture a guess that calling it uninformed would be an insult to the concept of ignorance. You have no idea what you’re talking about, like your compatriots posting here. Your leaders, and their pundits, tell you who to hate and how to hate them, and you jump in with both feet, literally having no clue about the issues or individuals in question. Pathetic morons.
Go over to gateway pundit (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/) where they seem to find some new revelation about Van Jones by the hour–just in the last few hours they have posted information on Jones being on the board of the strident anti-war tabloid called “War Times,” and put up audio from a radical record he performed on that was full of “hatin” on whites and Jews.
You gotta wonder who prepared the Jones dossier ’cause boy its fat and its a doozy.
You guys are all racist going after Van Jones like that!
He already said he is not a truther,and he does not agree or understand the document that was signed! The article rense.com he does not agree with that either! What else do you want?
Washington Post is at last covering the Jones controversy: White House Says Little About Embattled Jones.
Jones is toast. Obama can’t keep Jones around anymore.
Jones is Obama’s Picture of Dorian Gray — the true image of himself that Obama can’t allow others to see.
“he, like I, shed the bs of the leftist crowd a long time ago.”
You shed the leftist BS??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Here’s a guy who openly proclaims his desire to destroy capitalism and “redistribute all the wealth”, and you’re so cool with that you think he’s an admirable mentor?????
Oh, MohammedanHo, you are a laff riot!
“Jones’ work at the Ella Baker Center contributed a hundred times more to goodness in the world…”
Utter codswallop. The Ella Baker Center is just another urban ‘jobs-training’ (and ‘street counselling’) scam like all the others, as brilliantly sent up by Tom Wolfe forty years ago. No jobs ever result- except of course for the staff. And those “green jobs”- where are they? Is it shoveling unicorn poop? Polishing rainbows? Working as one of Santa’s elves?
All worthless Potemkin horseshit, designed merely to look good, buff the resume, make some bucks, and of course recruit a lefty rent-a-mob and get-out-the-vote operation- all of course tied in to STORM. The same old ACORN shit with green makeup.
OOOOOOh, Rayford played the race card!
Um, what part of “unrepentant communist’ don’t you get?
But I actually knew Jones in his communist days, and can tell you that he, like I, shed the bs of the leftist crowd a long time ago.
And you were calling someone else “overly optimistic”? For someone who “shed the bs”, you certainly parrot it non-stop.
A Bill of Particulars:
Black Panthers in jungle fatigues and armed with concealed weapons while overtly waving billy clubs to intimidate voters at our polling places.
A “by definition” racist, Sonia Sotomayor, appointed to the supreme court of the United States.
One of the top cops in America characterized by a factless, unapologetic President as a stupid racist.
Mark Lloyd, a White House official advisor to President Obama who’s on record trying to kill constitutionally guaranteed free speech.
Avowed communist advisers to the President. Van Jones is just one example of many.
A President who openly attacks various classes of Americans by skin color, position and, or stances opposing the President, while espousing redistribution of wealth through the equivalent of legislation from the bench.
The President’s continued steps to keep us dependent on foreign oil.
The President’s reckless, feckless spending schemes, eg, stimulus one, certain to lead to hyperinflation, and, among other results, increase the price of food staples by at least half.
Cutting 90% of the water needs of California food growers in drought stricken areas, acting as an impetus to raise food prices across the nation.
A series of documented, proven lies emanating from the President and much of his administration that are designed to camouflage a concerted attempt to turn the United States into a Euro/Socialist/Alinski-esque nation.
Propaganda directed at schoolchildren requiring them to write a paragraph on “how I can help President Obama reach his goals.”
A foolhardy Presidential plan to put private medical insurance companies out of business, replacing them with a single payer, government controlled form of rationing-replete, senior-citizen-depriving medical insurance.
A sworn lie. Possessing no serious intention to preserve, protect and defend this country against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
And this, my friends, is just the tip of the iceberg.
What America possibly needs at this point is a declaratory judgment that allows the American people, in a special judicial action, to discover if they can ask for and be granted injunctive relief during which time any major Presidential legislation has to be agreed upon by 70% of both houses of Congress.
If the supreme court determines that President Barack Obama has not followed the bedrock principles of the constitution of this democratic republic, and pursued goals that are not in the interest of this country, then President Barack Obama will be removed from office, and a special election will be held forthwith to determine a successor.
Part of the declaratory judgment is to determine if President Barack Obama can be held civilly and criminally liable for any high crimes or serious maleficence.
Jones’ work at the Ella Baker Center contributed a hundred times more to goodness in the world than any of you flaccid turds ever will.
Seems to me like a bunch of glorified college internship projects they’ve got going, leading to pretty standard Leftist “let me break my arm patting myself on the back” self-esteem. Nothing against that kind of thing, so long as it’s funded with private dollars, but it’s hardly earth-shattering stuff.
You gotta question the intelligence of someone that supports or even used to support communism or even admits to being a communist. Maybe if Jones had lived in the Soviet Union during the 20th century then maybe he would have a real clue about how terrible communism was and is.
With the latest stuff coming out on Jones it leads me to question his intelligence, honor, and integrity. If anyone is a flacid t**d, Jones would fit the bill.
Moho (32)
One may “disavow” many things in public, and not mean it. It’s funny how so many of Obama’s inner circle disavow so many things that they have said in the past. The question is, is there any reason to believe them?
I read your quotation – in the context of other statements – as somebody realizing that in order to propagate his beliefs he must hide them. Far from changing his mind he is simply going underground.
From the Washington Post article: “Rep. Mike Pence (Ind.) called on the adviser to resign or be fired, saying in a statement, ‘His extremist views and coarse rhetoric have no place in this administration or the public debate.’”
That’s a funny thing to say, because it seems obvious that his extremist views and coarse rhetoric are a perfect fit for this administration. Good grief, if they are actually going to start firing those who have extremist views and coarse rhetoric, Sasha and her sister (and maybe the dog) will be the only ones left.
That’s not actually a bad idea, now that I think of it.
Dale (14):
Why should he? They did. By his very words – calling it “overseas contingencies operations” and “man-made disasters” the Democrats show that they do not take the war that the terrorists are making upon the US seriously.
Why should he have? He didn’t leak anything. A) Valerie Plame was never a covert operative, and B) Cheney didn’t leak her name anyways. Look it up.
Why should they? An opinion on that matter is hardly a matter of national security or questionable motives (unlike, say, promoting mass sterilization of the population.) You say nonsense, and I’m not inclined to pursue the matter myself, but why has the President not simply produced the document in question? There are enough questions regarding Obama’s birthplace that could be simply answered but haven’t been to give people legitimate cause for concern.
The problems with statements like yours is that it shows the narrowness of focus of the U.S. statists. You equate things that should clearly not be set as equals, seem unable to judge evidence reasonably, and throw stones at others when you should be examining your own foundations
Jones:”I had a professor who encouraged me to apply to Harvard and Yale [for law school], which was almost unheard of for students coming from the kind of public schools that I was coming from in the rural SouthÉI was accepted to both places, and decided to go to Yale because Yale didn’t have any grades and was smaller than Harvard. I figured, once I enroll I’m guaranteed to graduate, so I can just go and be a radical hellraiser student, and they can’t do anything about it. Which is pretty much what happened. ”
http://www.collagefoundation.org/people/people-vanjones.html
Your leaders, and their pundits, tell you who to hate and how to hate them, and you jump in with both feet, literally having no clue about the issues or individuals in question. Pathetic morons.
You know who told me to hate Communists and anyone avowing allegiance to that ideology? History and the hundred million dead at the hands of “progressives” around the world. You do know that the definitive document on Communist crimes against humanity was written by a French Communist, right? Screw Van Jones and screw you. I was once a self-identified Communist, too, when I was 18 and truly ignorant.
And what are these mysterious and esoteric “issues” that only the enlightened understand? Scientific socialism? Dialectical materialism? Historicism? The vanguard of the proletariat and the dictatorship of the party? Environmental justice? What? They are all rubbish. The detritus of the ramblings of homicidal maniacs who brought hell on Earth for hundreds of millions of people and would do so again, if given the chance (see Zimbabwe, Cuba, North Korea and Venezuela for current examples of your glorious “issues”).
Dostoyevsky had their number before they even came on the scene in anything like their future numbers. Just read “The Grand Inquisitor” section of “The Brothers Karamazov” or the entirety of “The Devils” to see just what sort of people they (and you) are. Or am I to believe that you have some sort of insight into human psychology as it plays out politically on the Left that Dostoyevsky lacked? Hah! Fat f-ing chance of that. Even Nietzsche said Dostoyevsky was the only psychologist he ever learned from. Not only are you a pathetic moron, you are a self-deluded, moralistic, pseudo-intellectual moron.
Poor Citizen (17):
Except that one does not spend 20 years in a church like Rev. Wright’s without accepting the basics of the minister’s preaching. Wright’s church isn’t just another Christian denomination, it preaches Liberation Theology and hatred of “the whites.”
As for Ayers, Obama studied with him and befriended him. In deed, as Jack Cashill at American Thinker has shown, it is highly probable that Ayers ghost-wrote Dreams of My Father.
Do the research, it’s all there. People complain about Limbaugh, Levin, and Beck, but I have yet to see them proven factually wrong.
Fox news on Van Jones
Van Jone’s 9/11 Truther Past Resurfaces
I love Rayfords defense Van Jones is not a Trufer he is just stupid and signs things he does not understand. This of course qualifies him perfectly to be in the Obamanations government. Nice to see the old RACIST projection being done again when will these moonbats ever learn.
Clarice…you certainly know how to stir up the leftoids.
My problem is you piece that assumes that he is either stupid or crazy, but this misses two additional possibilities. The first is obvious…he is both crazy and stupid.
The second is more worrisome. He is a clever sinister pimp of all the left dogma on racism, ecowhackism, collectivism and all the other seditionisms. He is a protected minority (black trumps gay remember) and has cashed in on this from day one. Barry HO and Mrs. HO were fully aware of his positions and that was all the vetting required.
What went wrong was that it came at a time when the masses were enraged already and they were unable to slide him by the angry majority on the basis of him being a protected minority whose views were “just good for the environment”. In this case the problem is not primarily this turkey, but the head turkey…there is a reason the captain of a ship is fired irrespective of who was on the bridge at the time of a disaster.
Finally, I suspect you would do well to obtain Depends as a sponsor and give out coupons to some of your readers like MOHO and Dale…they are obviously in great need.
I wish the mid-term elections were today. This White House needs to have the brakes applied to it before we all get killed and the only way to do that is ensure the Dems and their buddies are voted out of the House.
The only thing one really needs to know about Van Jones and his supporters is symbolized by a mural in the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, which he founded.
It depicts ‘people of color’ in the center listening to Chairman Mao. The only white people in the mural are on the periphery. One holds a gun to the head of a Latina carrying a baby; another depicts a white man holding a black kid in chains.
This is how Van Jones thinks*. This is how Obama and his delightful wife think, as well as many people in his administration, from Eric Holder to Valerie Jarrett*. This is how many of Obama’s supporters think.*
In other words, this is what race hate looks like when it comes masked in the guise of collectivism and political activism. It’s no wonder the Center was established in Oakland.
And does anybody else find it even remotely credible that an anti-Semitic black racist like Moho would ever produce a son — a marine, no less — who would end up in Iraq? In Bush’s war?
Nope. Just another lie by a liar in support of fabrications by supporters of the fabricator-in-chief.
I also find it hard to believe that he knows Van Jones; certainly he didn’t meet him at Yale. More likely he’d simply heard of him or read about him, if that.
It reminds me of a little dust-up I had on Pajamas some months ago with a white kid pretending to be a wealthy, retired black Vietnam veteran (who owned his own jet helicopter). For some reason someone mentioned a black activist and author (I have forgotten her name), and the kid immediately claimed to have known her, and rambled on about how brilliant and insightful she was. Apparently he thought it would bolster his position somehow by claiming to know so-and-so, utterly oblivious to the fact that such claims removed what little credibility he had remaining.
Same thing; same gender; same politics; different subject; same category of lies.
All for the greater good, of course … and the children (don’t forget about the children!).
*They say a picture is worth a thousand words. If you want to seriously damage this administration, broadcast that mural with Van Jones spouting off in front of it, tie Van to the administration, which is not only good politics but perfectly accurate and fair, and watch his numbers plummet even more. Obama needs to have only one or two more of these black racist dust-ups to lose forever the majority of the 65+% of the electorate that is white, or even the 86% of the electorate that is not black. Once people finally figure out that Obama has a problem with any white people who don’t kiss his ass, it will be almost impossible for him to get back the trust of that 65%. It’s why the Democrat media won’t cover it. Not only are they disinclined to be critical of Democrats in general, and black Democrats in particular, but they are well aware that on the heels of the Skip Gates affair, people could very well begin to sense that Obama and his gang have a problem with the vast majority of Americans, and America itself.
And don’t forget, Obama really, really wants to tell the the country to f*** off re:Van Jones or any other extremist in his administration. He won’t be holding any press conferences before his Dear Leader speeches next week, but you can bet your house he WANTS to keep Van from being thrown under the Bus.
He considers it payback.
I think we all agree that this guy Van Jones is a true kook with an obvious hatred for whites, every chance he gets he’s always making extreme skewed opinion/statements about White people. This guy is insane and shows paranoid tendencies. Thats all and good but PLEASE do not forget the rest of the scum, such as:#1 Cass Sunstein, who wants to give animals rights to sue their owner, #2 John Holdren, who wants to streilize people through our drinking water #3 Valerie Jarrett who has a video online praising the works of Van Jones who as she(Valerie and Obama) have been watching since Van Jones came into the forefront in California. So, they Obama and Val can’t say they didn’t know about Van Jones past hatemongering history.
In the video Valerie looks like the type who wouldn’t mind putting her tongue…. you no where,if it gets her to the place she wants to be. Hey, I’m just saying.
Obama needs to be impeached this guy is a total wack job in every sense of the word. There is no excuse for the President of the United States of America, the best country in the entire world should have ever surrounded himself with these hatemongers, demented Nazi’s such as John Holdren and his let’s sterilize the country weirdness and oh I can’t forget van jone the self described communist…HELLO… Whats wrong with this picture????
#94 Moho
Moho, if you think the Ella Baker Center is a place of good, I question your judgement. Groups like WATTS UP, THIRD EYE MOVEMENT, and STORM do more harm than good. They all stem from this idea that black people cannot get a fair shake in this country. They are using the green movement to create some social utopia. A very wise man once said “More harm is caused by those who mean well, than those who mean to do harm”. This notion that Van Jones and YOU somehow are changing the bs on the left is absurd. The arrogance of the left knowing what is best for everyone is your central fault.
Hillary Clinton. She should get out of this marxist cabal. The Democratic Party has been taken over by a radical marxist gang – and she ought to get out and start to regroup and reform the Democratic Party.
It’s pretty funny (or sad) that Hillary is forced to defend the administration positions on Zelaya/Honduras/Iran and Joe Biden is forced to make noises about the success of the Porkulus.
You’d think the cognitive dissonance would overwhelm them.
Your leaders, and their pundits, tell you who to hate and how to hate them, and you jump in with both feet, literally having no clue about the issues or individuals in question. Pathetic morons.
I think whoever wrote that was simply projecting, venividivici.
Because that is exactly how it works for the Left’s gigantic cadre of Useful Idiots.
Vennividivicci: I was once a self-identified Communist, too, when I was 18 and truly ignorant.
Meet Paul from Alexandria:
One may “disavow” many things in public, and not mean it.
You two idiots deserve each other. By the way, I met Van Jones when he was 22, right at the moment he became a communist and I was with him in the same group. Those people were idiots. He, I and most of the other people with half a brain left them behind and their still probably sitting in coffee shops talking about revolution and having almost no impact on any of the issues that they’ve identified as problematic. Those issues are the same ones people have found problematic throughout time–that unfettered capitalism is unstable, that governments based on it tend to gravitate towards corruption, that disenfranchisement at birth is an inevitable result of it.
Even Republicans admit that these problems exist, the main difference is the rhetoric on how to solve these issues. Jones had a larger view on how to solve those same issues, one that could not be contained by bs communist coffee shop banter.
But the thing that outs you as an idiot more than anything I’ve read from you is this line:
I was once a self-identified Communist, too, when I was 18 and truly ignorant.
The fact that he once called himself a communist, Venni, is no more relevant to anything than the fact that you once called yourself a communist. It makes me wonder just what the big difference is between you and Jones, since both of you make the same claim–that you are no longer communists–but only one of you is believed by your fellows here. Now, what could that difference be?
It will come to me, I suppose, eventually.
See also The Big ‘Green’ Picture at American Thinker.
The author asks whether this guy is stupid or not. I lean towards this guy being stupid,since Commies rely on the stupid and the ignorant for there own power. This whole Onescum admin is full of fudge and packed with nuts. Herman Koh wants sharia law,Cass Sunstein wants to ban hunting, another “czar” wants forced abortions(Hitler,anyone?) another “czar” thinks free speech only applies to him and his cohorts. Did not Vladmir Illych Lenin call folks like these Useful Idiots? Well, unlike the onescum, Vlad at least got the idiots part correct.
For the poster who mentioned Hilldebeast Clinton should “get out now”. This whole onescum admin is loaded with CLINTONITES. Larry Summers,Carole Browner, Rahm bonehead Emanuel, Harold Koh. Whats next Malik Shabazz as immigration “czar”? Hilldebeast ,in case you have forgotten, along with her commie cohort Ira Magaziner, were the first ones trying to give us health care according to Dr Jack Kevorkian. Hilldebeast probably was the one who “vetted” some of these “czars” since the onescum wasnt a DC insider.
Oh my god, he is a….TRUTHER…
sheesh.
Some people have opinions. If those opinions are not in line with what Pajamas Media thinks are sane or good, then I guess they get painted with a scarlet letter. Does Rupert Murdoch own PJ media?
May I put to the side the issue of Mr/ Jones’s communism to inquire: what is a “rowdy nationalilst.”
As I understand the protest mindset of Saul D. Alinsky, he did not preclude “rowdiness” in demonstrations — that is to say, demonstrations intended to inconvenience the general population. I wonder if Mr. Jones is familiar with the civil rights protest tactic Mr Alinsky recommends at pp. 139 – 141 of “Rules for Radicals,” (Random House, 1971.) If so, I would be interested in His view of this tactic.
Also, has Mr. Jones changed his view of our military involvement in Afghanistan since, uh, January 20, 2009?
It makes me wonder just what the big difference is between you and Jones, since both of you make the same claim–that you are no longer communists–but only one of you is believed by your fellows here. Now, what could that difference be?
Let me give you a hint. I’m not in videos on You Tube calling for complete transformations of the US economy in the name of some quixotic goal.
Those issues are the same ones people have found problematic throughout time–that unfettered capitalism is unstable, that governments based on it tend to gravitate towards corruption, that disenfranchisement at birth is an inevitable result of it.
None of which problems require a complete transformation of the US economy. And stop with the completely dishonest crap about “unfettered capitalism”. I have worked in the financial services industry for a while now and the amount of regulation is ASTOUNDING. Some of it good and some of it bad, but if that industry (and, by extension, the capitalist economies of the West) is unfettered, the definition of unfettered must have changed when I wasn’t looking.
It will come to me, I suppose, eventually.
Given your general lack of a clue, I doubt it, so I gave you the answer (the You Tube thing, in case you forgot already).
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Yes, I love the irony of trolls using “Fox News” or “Rush Limbaugh” or “Hannity” as shorthand for what they think moves everyone on the opposing side, and, of course, oblivious to the obvious counter-proclamations of “MSNBC”, “MSM”, etc. In any mass movements, there are clearly opinion-makers and opinion-takers, regardless of the worldview under analysis. Also, using such shorthand conveniently elides the entire history of Leftist movements globally and the destructive path they’ve left in their wake.
When I think about people like Van Jones, Obama and their defenders here, I always think back to this comment by Richard Epstein, another in the long list of people I respect from the University of Chicago. John Rockefeller really did the country a huge service sticking it to Harvard by founding the U of C. Anyway.
http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2009/04/richard-epstein-discusses-barack-obama.html
“Robinson: You are quoted in the Boston Globe, “I like Obama but I reject the suggestion that he is an intellectual. He is an activist merely mimicking the mannerisms of an intellectual.” How good is Obama’s mind?
Epstein: His mind is pretty good, but it is a clever “means-ends” mind. He has never written a scholarly article in his entire life.
Robinson: He was President of the Harvard Law Review but never wrote an article.
Epstein: If he did, it was unsigned and not academically significant.
Robinson: Would you ever give him tenure at the University of Chicago Law School?
Epstein: No, no, no. Jody Cantor got this story from somebody, but it isn’t true. We did not give Obama a tenured offer. Obama was such an engaging fellow, that we all, including me, would have offered him a tenured track position [not tenured, but leading to tenure if the work is high quality].”
@119. Moho: – … unfettered capitalism is unstable, that governments based on it tend to gravitate towards corruption, that disenfranchisement at birth is an inevitable result of it.
Sloppily asserted hogwash based on hyperbolic myth and a fundamental ignorance of capitalism. Unfettered capitalism doesn’t exist.
What we have in the U.S. – especially what we’ve had during the most recent 30 years – is hyper-regulated capitalism. In fact, BHO is now putting the finishing touches on what we’ve been experiencing for decades: creeping, socialist corporatism reminiscent of Benito Mussolini’s fascist Italy.
That is the sort of ‘capitalism’ that is unstable and gravitates toward corruption – the type that is manipulated, politicized, socially-engineered, overly regulated and, basically, broken by book-smart, inexperienced moral adolescents like BHO and his Keystone Cop Quasi-Cabinet. Most of these newspeaking doublethinkers have never held a real job in their lives, yet they think they know what’s best for Americans, generally. Their fantastical, Utopian ‘vision’ is a perpetual entitlement / welfare state over which they maintain totalitarian control and in which everyone is equally, collectively disenfranchised at birth – robbed of the individual liberties and inalienable rights guaranteed in our Constitution. They’ve willfully blinded themselves to the long, bloody history of unintended consequences resulting from every attempt to force unreal perfection on a society.
There are no more free markets in America (the health care market is the best example, ironically), much less “unfettered capitalism”. And our status at home and abroad has suffered as a direct result.
This is actually verifiable by looking at the last 70+ years of U.S. History. Since FDR made creeping socialist corporatism fashionable, and as America has become more socialist, we have become increasingly disliked and feared abroad, increasingly corrupt within, gone more deeply into debt, become less accountable, lazier, fatter, more entitled, less prone to individual responsibility and more prone to ideological and physical conflict internally and externally. No one can argue that America – as it presently slides into the bottomless chasm of socialism – is on a sustainable track.
That’s one of the fundamental, inconvenient truths marxists and assorted leftists consistently ignore.
Capitalism is the only economic system that creates wealth out of nothing more than imagination and willingness to work and take on risk, by harnessing and leveraging humanity’s Darwinian instinct for self-preservation (a/k/a ‘selfishness’, ‘greed‘, etc.).
Proponents of capitalism recognize that human commerce is not a zero-sum game. Proponents of capitalism recognize that wealth can’t be multiplied by dividing it (i.e., “spreading the wealth around”). Proponents of capitalism recognize that the “gifts” and “need” upon which socially suicidal ideologies like marxism are based, are nebulous, arbitrary concepts – like “Hope” and “Change” – intended to be arbitrarily assigned and arbitrarily legislated by ideologues and demagogues, not altruists.
Only through a truly free capitalist market – where government’s one and only function is to proscribe monopolistic manipulation and politicization of commerce – will society maximize the quality of life for everyone. America proved this a long time ago.
#123, Oh my god, he is a….TRUTHER…
Ohmygod, he is an arrogant nutball, all smug and happy to be subverting the Republic, in his own words, by “…community organizing within the federal family”
This is above & beyond Van Jones signing a brain dead TRUTHER petition and then trying to weasel out of that insanity.
Haven’t you watched any of the videos linked ?
“I like Obama but I reject the suggestion that he is an intellectual. He is an activist merely mimicking the mannerisms of an intellectual.”
Best quote of the day. Maybe of the year.
Even the century, so far anyway
94. Moho .“As for your opinion of Jones…” And what would that be?
…tell you who to hate and how to hate them… Who’s telling you who and how to hate?
MOHO is an a * hole. Ignore the puke. Vivo is a plant. A whore is a whore, the only question is the agreed upon price. Forgetting, for a second, Van Jones’ radical backround, and disgusting comments. The guy is ignorant. No, I take that back. Ignorance is a remediable condition. Van Jones is terminally stupid. Now that might be the determining characteristic for an Obama appointee, but not for a posiition of influence in the US government. The guy is a schmuck, nay a putz, which, according to Jackie Mason, is even worse. Schmuck, putz, whatever. Send him back to the left coast. Give him a solar powered beanie, and let him bicycle down to the coast to observe the whales as they copulate as Californi browns out.Perhaps Cindy Sheehan will give him a tumble.
MoHO/ViVo: go away. We’ve heard all of your bullshit, over and over again. Fantastic intellects, both of you. Good job, good job, Please go infect some other planet.
Too many stupid responses to address them all, and not a lot of content there to begin with, especially venni, who claims that if there is a Youtube clip of you, then you are that person forever.
I’ll simply leave you with the words of James Madison in Federalist N.10
“But the various common and durable source of faction has been the various and unequal distribution of property. Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society….a landed interest, a manufacturing interest, a mercantile interest, a moneyed interest, with many lesser interests, grow up necessity in civilized nations, and divide thm into different classes, actuated by different sentiments and views”
Feel free to call him a communist, you idiots.
O……One
B……big
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M……MISTAKE
A……America
@132. Moho: – I’ll simply leave you with the words of James Madison …
You left out the most critical part and have thereby intentionally misrepresented Madison’s point.
Madison was making an observation about the realities of faction, and government’s responsibility in light of that reality. He was NOT making a value judgment about the unequal distribution of property but rather recognizing that it is a fact of life.
To wit, in the very next sentence, which you either dishonestly left out, or which was simply omitted in the talking point memo you regurgipasted (but never verified, indicating that you’ve never even read Federalist 10), Madison GOES ON to end his paragraph and make his point [all emph. mine]:
“The regulation of these various and interfering interests forms the principal task of modern legislation, and involves the spirit of party and faction in the necessary and ordinary operations of the government.”
Per Madison – who was obviously infinitely smarter than you – it’s government’s task to legislate IN LIGHT OF the realities imposed by faction, which will ALWAYS exist, and are sometimes caused by unequal distribution of property (among many other things).
How do we know Madison considers faction (and unequal distribution of property) a fact of life? Because a little further down, he goes on to state this fact outright:
“The inference to which we are brought is, that the CAUSES of faction cannot be removed, and that relief is only to be sought in the means of controlling its EFFECTS.”
Unequal distribution of property is a CAUSE of faction, not an EFFECT. Therefore, Madison is explicitly saying EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what you’re trying to suggest by cherry-picking his quote and leaving out his actual point.
Why is it that morally adolescent, leftist ideologues can never argue a point without lying?
Nice try, nimrod.
AP is reporting that Jones has resigned accusing his detractors of vicious smears.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jjHS8S3jIndU2oI6WHB_KqB-pvwAD9AHJBMG1
Ruh-roh.
Google Nano Thermite 911 ; This is the best evidence to support inside job demolition of the twin towers and building 7. There is no question that there is nano-thermite in all the dust from the demo. No Question. Perfect chips of nano-thermite all over in it. Military Grade Nano-Thermite. Hmm Military Grade; go figure. Van Jones was right about 9/11 being a demolition anyways; now we just need to find out exactly WHO placed all that NANO-THERMITE throughout the buildings from top to bottom; floor to floor.
137.nutbucket:it was ME….well not JUST me-someone would have to be crazy to believe that-and i’ll being seeing YOU real soon.
i am aware of your counter-measures,and they are pedestrian at best.don’t bother trying to run…..i can simply track with eschlon via the chip implanted in your jaw…go ahead,try digging it out.
Some interesting elaboration here
Valerie Jarrett (ex daughter in law of Vernon Jarrett) is the big promoter of Van Jones, she was thrilled to capture his genius and all that.
Tangled Webs
Also, more background on dear Van…
The Anthony (Van) Jones Scandal
Has anyone else here been following the conversation at LGF? Charles has been making hay over the weakness of the “Jones is a Troofer” meme. It’s been part of a continuing evolution of his commentary. No, I’m not saying the he’s gone Huffington or anything, but what I am seeing is a steady campaign to disassociate his views from “birthers”, “Paulians” and other kooks. He has taken great pains to avoid Obama Derangement Syndrome.
All of this is laudable, except that he has been way over doing it, IMHO. (Disclosure: I was banned from posting at LGF some time back because I disagreed, civilly with him about the Tea Party movement being a productive exercise in democracy). There is certainly a danger, and one to which many have succombed, in nut-jobbery in criticizing the Obama administration, but to defend Van Jones is well beyond the pale. This is a man who has never met a scurrilous, slacious anti-Conserative lie he didn’t love (including Trooferism). This is a man who is clearly a bigot and seeks to destroy capitalism and this country for the sake of revenge against the “white devil.” Most worrisome, I find his views to be in accord with many of our President’s closest friends and advisers fo long-standing. I find it disturbing the LGF would take the path it has on this and several other issues.
@140. MJBrutus: – LGF?
Heh. You can find an excellent collection of articles and comment discussion about the ongoing meltdown at LGF here (also scan the archives for other info).
LGF has become the mirror image of dKos – dissent in the ranks and reasoned discourse that calls the site management’s judgment into question in any way is not tolerated, as you’ve discovered.
#14. “It must truly outrage you idiots that smearing someone as a communist is simply not enough to ruin somebody’s career in this day and age.”
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It’s not a smear. It’s the truth.