The Real Reason Liberals Hate Us
And you can try and reason with liberals, gently telling them, “You’re a complete and utter moron. Everything works a million times better without your idiotic meddling,” but this does very little to assuage their fears. They just think to themselves, “If only I could control everything through the government, we’d all be safe and secure.” And then liberals see the one thing between them and their goal — conservatives — and they lash out like a Chihuahua at shoelaces.
And it’s not just that we conservatives stand between them and government control. We also stir up fear and hatred in them by actually practicing liberty ourselves. For instance, liberals would almost — almost — be okay with us just thinking to ourselves that liberty is better than government control, but then we have the audacity to say it out loud. Liberals freak out at this, because they worry about such ideas spreading and more people wanting horrible, horrible freedom. So you can see how these ideas spreading to talk radio completely terrorizes liberals. No wonder they lash out and try to stop that with the Fairness Doctrine. But even worse, their monopoly on TV news ended with the emergence of Fox News. Now every moment of every day, they fear that more people are being influenced into accepting horrifying freedom, and all they can think about is some new feeble scheme to try and stop it.
Of course, speech isn’t the only scary freedom conservatives employ. We also like owning and even carrying guns. That’s unspeakably scary to a liberal. An individual — not under the direct control of their government — having such power? That’s the sort of liberty that makes them lose bladder control. They’re used to criminals having guns — that’s just what criminals do — but the thought of an honest citizen being armed is incomprehensible to them. And people lash out with fear and hate against what they don’t understand. As do liberals.
So that’s why liberals hate us — because we like freedom. Our rugged individualism is always going to be a direct threat to their sissy collectivism, and for that they shall continue to hate us and lash out at us. Being so useless themselves, they just don’t understand our wanting to take care of ourselves, and thus we see their screeching and general derangement.
So can conservatives and liberals learn to live together? No, not really, but it’s not like we can get rid of them. I mean, we could try putting out some PSA saying that playing in traffic reduces your carbon footprint, but I don’t think all of them would fall for it. But it’s good to note that the more we speak about freedom, the more scared liberals get. So if we all preach liberty enough, maybe they’ll all go away.
“And you can try and reason with liberals, gently telling them, “You’re a complete and utter moron. Everything works a million times better without your idiotic meddling,” but this does very little to assuage their fears.”
I think you explain why a lot of us liberals dont like you “conservatives” right there. People who initialy assume that whoever disagrees with them are complete and utter morons and total idiots in advance, rarely come across as anything but pompous asses. You dont argue, you pontificate. wich is, to most ordinary humans, damn annoying.
Your assessment is correct only when applied to non-malevolent liberals: that is, the deluded rather than the vicious and power-seeking. But the vicious and power-seeking tend to rise to the top of any machine built for the pursuit of power, at which pont they begin to act on their true convictions.
Isabel Paterson put it thus in The God of the Machine:
Some day, this syndrome will have a pseudo-Latin name, an entry in the diagnostic manuals, and, hopefully, a minimum sentence.
This is textbook projection. Not only are rightwingers the ones filled with hysterical hate and rage, but the notion that you love liberty is a crock. The whole movement is required to goosestep in unison. Should someone step out of line and criticize Rush, or some such, there is Hell to pay.
It is fitting that Ayn Rand is the rightwing poster girl for 2009, since she preached freedom but was at the head of a totalitarian cult. Very fitting.
And angry accusative Clarke # 3 just pops up to confirm exactly what you say Frank . What a hoot moonbats are and so predictable.
I am willing to bet, liberals prove through their comments a complete lack of humour as well.
Liberal: Please do not drive the truck into the wall.
Conservative: It’s fine ! The Invisible Hand will drive the truck ! God’s Will will drive the truck.
Liberal: Please don’t drive the truck into that wall
Conservative: It is American destiny the way the truck is going
*Loud Crash*
Conservative: That crash of course was all you Liberals fault !
Speaking as an independent, I would point out that we are the only ones actually looking where the truck is going. During the Reagan years, it went pretty good; during the end of the Bush years, not so much. So, having about equal thirds ‘Liberal’, ‘Conservative’, and ‘actually watching where we’re going’ is a pretty good system.
Dr. Matt
<pOf course, one can always count on left-liberals to respond to criticism of any sort with vituperation. That’s required by their vision of themselves as intellectually and morally superior to us benighted conservatives. But all things must pass, especially an inaccurate assessment of one’s own intellect and character — and recent developments such as the East Anglia CRU document leak and its sequels are ringing the bell for a Day of Political Judgment.
November 2010 promises to be…interesting.
“sissy collectivism”
The best description of modern liberalism I’ve heard. Bravo.
You dont argue, you pontificate. wich is, to most ordinary humans, damn annoying.
@ 1 Fnord,
Could you not make your point without slurring my religion? When did a Pope last pontificate? Sarah wouldn’t have done that. Why can’t you be more like Sarah and less like her hateful and pathetic detractors?
This is textbook projection.
Translation: You’re a mean ol’ poo-poo head!
Deeper Translation: You’re right.
Not only are rightwingers the ones filled with hysterical hate and rage …
Translation: I live on the West Coast or in the Northeast, and I have done so my entire life.
Deeper Translation: I’m gay.
… but the notion that you love liberty is a crock.
Translation: Christians want to control my life! (That’s what they always do in Hollywood movies!)
Deeper Translation: I was bullied in grammar school.
The whole movement is required to goosestep in unison.
Translation: Nazis! The military! George Bush and war and stuff!
Deeper Translation: I was educated in a public high school. Recently.
Should someone step out of line and criticize Rush, or some such, there is Hell to pay.
Translation: I got nuthin’ except a marginally active imagination.
Deeper Translation: I watch too much TV and think Jon Stewart is a true historian and scholar, along with Keith Olbermann, Katie Couric, and those ditzy Local Action news-gals.
It is fitting that Ayn Rand is the rightwing poster girl for 2009, since she preached freedom but was at the head of a totalitarian cult.
Translation: I have not so much as read a Wikipedia entry about Ayn Rand.
Deeper Translation: I don’t read much of anything at all, and I didn’t even finish the article I’m criticizing.
Very fitting.
Translation: So there!
Deeper Translation: Racists!
Deepest Translation: Nazis!
The Only Translation That Really Matters: I’m gay.
Fnord: No we do not initially assume anything, we let you make morons of yourselves. You are correct in that we do argue like progressives do; we seek to educate and inform. But because most progressives are Manchurian robots, conceited and deluded with their own self worth, sanctimonious and self loathing for being white, we do appear to pontificate.
See Clark is grasping at straws. I’ll take Ayn Rand and you can have Mao, Stalin, Rosseau and any other marxist/communist you want.
And how many PO have been murdered by us “rightwingers” lately? How about anti-government organizations beginning in the 60s? How about foreign and domistic terrorists-SDS, Weathermen, ELF, SLA, etc???
His choice of goosestep is interesting since Hitler was a Nazi which as we all know meant Socialist which is what the left/progressives seek in their form of government. Furthermore, it is interesting that AGW requires that all scientists and believers follow the same now discredited lies-no debate was the call from Gore. Also interesting was that the left came up with the policy of the politics of personal destruction, scorched earth and war rooms.
So who is really projecting???
I disagree with the entire premise of this article. Hate is a very strong word that does not apply in this case. Liberals do not hate conservatives. Liberals find conservative policies to be disgusting.
I agree that this projecs consevative fear onto liberals. It starts in the second sentence “They … have paranoid fears”, which is a conservative trait, not liberal. Fear is the primary motivator in conservative circles. Look around the pajamasmedia website, fear is everywhere. It’s the only thing you understand.
I also agree with Clark that Ayn Rand’s life is a parallel of the republican party. In her later years, members of her circle who expressed opinions that differed even slightly from doctrine were ostracized.
I don’t know — I personally think it’s because you guys tend to be either completely baffled or delusionally outraged, and are a little bit too quick and too systematic in spreading the most malicious and idiotic rumors, talking points and/or outright BS throughout your entire little right wing mediasphere, from hyperventilating blogs like Hot Air and the Free Republic to Fox News and the opinion section of the Wall Street Journal, and on to your congressional folks mouthing off on talk shows. And you guys are also a complete friggin nuisance on Wikipedia — how many puppets are you not-so-honest folks running there now?
I know this girl who moved from Beijing several years ago to teach in this country. She was at first completely open minded about this country’s politics until after she dated a couple of conservatives and started comparing notes with other Chinese women who moved here. Needless to say that she stopped dating conservatives, as well as being appalled at how awful and incomplete the US news media is compared to China’s. I still remember being amused at how puzzled she was when she caught Laura Bush lying on TV about New Orleans (she knew some teachers there at the time of Katrina) and how nobody in the media pointed that out. Aren’t we suppose to have a free press, unlike her home country? Gawd…..
OK, as much as it’ll suck to do…if Obama announces a surge today, we need to support him. That will suck, because the man is an idiot, but it will provide a perfect opportunity to discuss as length the treatment of Bush by the anti american left. A study in contrasts, if you will.
Specifically… Obama and Harry Reid’s declarations on the surge that took place in Iraq and led to victory there.
Allow me to fix that for you, Dr. Matt:
Conservative: We’re driving towards a wall. Please stop.
Liberal: Not a problem. We’ll just go faster!
Conservative: Please don’t drive the truck into that wall.
Liberal: Don’t worry, we won’t crash. (steps on the gas)
CRASH!
Liberal: This is all your fault. Racist.
#1 and #3
The article was obviously written with a touch of sarcasm and humor. Sorry you missed it. You need to learn to laugh a little along the way, and, yes, even laugh at yourself once in a while (everybody else does!!). But then, I can’t remember the last time I heard a liberal laugh about anything.
I don’t think liberals hate conservatives; they just know they are idiots, loud and stubborn.
Extreme conservs and libs have a lot in common, especially at grasping their own divergent beliefs.
You dont argue, you pontificate. wich is, to most ordinary humans, damn annoying.
Pot, meet kettle. Your side constantly lectures us about global warming… err sorry, “climate change,” poverty, health care, and every other issue-of-the-week you fixate on. It’s damn annoying to us ordinary humans.
Aureliano:
I enjoyed your response but you got a few things wrong:
I’m;
Hetero,
Live in East Tennessee,
Served in the Marines,
Went to a Catholic school,
voted for Reagan,
Have read all of Rand’s novels and Branden’s The Passion of Ayn Rand and Burns’ Goddess of the Market,
As recently as 2001 mistakenly believed that I was somewhat allied with the Right.
But other than that, you only made a few absurdly wrong statements about me.
Aureliano is a true pioneer in the field of psycholinguistics.
Fnord,
Come on now, that is pretty clearly satire. See how he said “gently telling them,” yet what he told them was actually very blunt? That’s why it’s funny and not a serious piece. It has a kernel(or perhaps ear) of truth, but is completely tongue-in-cheek.
LOL.. you shouldn’t do that Frank, it is not nice to bait that which is so easily , and as noted by Pragmatist.. predictably taken. I.E. liberals are the mullets of intellect. Without a “brain” liberal around, and oft even with .. they march like lemmings to their doom. Which is ok, but they try to drag humans down with them.
On a slightly different note, I wonder why liberals have no sense of humor? Could it be that they are, themselves, all jokes?
10. Aureliano:
Deepest translation: You’re gay. We get it. And that’s OK with us. Unlike your conservative brethren, we don’t condemn you for how you were born. Feel free to be yourself. That’s what liberty is all about. Now, about that War on Christmas.
When most liberals cannot when an argument, they change the subject with strawmen & ad hominem attacks; they are so filled with rage & cannot control their own emotions that logis & reason is lost to them. Most liberals want to create a magic utopia; however, Utopia’s quickly turn into nightmares for the rest of the people as shown in Communist North Korea, Cuba, China, & the former Soviet Union & Nazi Germany. Yet they still think all the other Marxist failures did the experiment wrong, when the true answer is Marxism, in any form, leads to failure, death, & destruction. I believe they are cowards at heart since most will remain in America, yet want to transform America into a Marxist nightmare. If they truly believe in Marxism, move to a Communist country. Cuba, North Korea, & China are waiting for them.
Dr. Matt (6):
Liberal: Please do not drive the truck into the wall.
Conservative: It’s fine ! The Invisible Hand will drive the truck ! ….
Speaking as an independent, I would point out that we are the only ones actually looking where the truck is going. During the Reagan years, it went pretty good; during the end of the Bush years, not so much.
Please don’t confuse “conservative” with “Republican”. They are not synonomous; President Bush may have been many things and done many good things, but a Reagan conservative he was not.
And where do you get the idea that it’s the conservatives driving the truck into the wall, or that the liberals want to stop the truck? Seems to me that it’s the liberals that are heading towards a cliff at the moment and the conservatives saying “Hey, the road is thataway“.
This article conforms to any of my attempts at reasonable discourse with radicalized Democrats. Weeping, wailing, gnashing of teeth. Foaming at the mouth.
No joy.
First, I’m no liberal, and you’re no conservative. But hazarding a guess as to why they hate right-wing douchebags, I’d say its the absolutely impenetrable stupidity. Just guessing here.
When most liberals cannot when an argument, they change the subject with strawmen & ad hominem attacks; they are so filled with rage & cannot control their own emotions that logis & reason is lost to them.
Two things. I meant to write win, instead of when there. Also, I don’t know what ad hominem actually means.
Well said, Frank. I tend to divide liberals into two main groups: The afraid and dependent, and the angry and evil. I guess there is a third group as well, the profoundly stupid, which can exhibit all of the above traits.
Re: Fnord#1
Considering what people like you have said about Conservatives & Repubs alike, calling us evil and comparing us to Nazis and psychotics, I really find it amusing in a sick way that you can’t handle 1% of what you dished out.
Far be it from you to have a rational discourse on almost any subject. After all it is much easier to denigrate an opponent than try to convince them of the validity of your arguement.
Whoa! #3…..Clark……Griswold…….baby, textbook projection there (kudos #4) bubba. Other than some comedic hyperbole, pretty much nails it. It’s the face going blank and slackjawed, the eyes glazing over, and yes, you can decern a change in skin color that makes me laugh. Ahh. moho, lumping people together, as usual. The more Dr. Utopia’s rating drop, the more things stay the same, eh?
Yeppers, now where did I leave that right-wing douchebag set of…Oh, there it is!
23. Now and Then:
27. moho:
Hi guys, its been too long so… guess what? Your messiah? Yeah? He got his start in politics turning tricks for a slumlord! Yep! That’s right, he stepped up to the mic, got in position and used his great oratorial skills servicing a slumlord. No matter what you say or do, that image will be in your head all day. Enjoy!
Fnord:
Thanks. You made my day. Few things are more enjoyable than watching the object of a satire utterly miss the point.
#23 Now and Later, or whatever….You should really get out more and experience just how the liberal community really treats gays. I have a few casual aquaintences who are gay. Not enough room to tell any the stories of the actual contempt a lot of liberals have for the gay community. Of the gay friends I have, three are former libs who, saw the light of day, and are now (as of 2008) staunchly Conservative. I believe the term “breath of fresh air” was used frequently. The other is basically apolitical, which I find very refreshing. Quit spouting the party line. The Dims are falling behind the curve. FaB of Republican cr*p. The independent conservative is growing, and both parties are going to fall behind.
Clark – You were in the Marines? How long did it take to revert to a passive-aggressive sissy? There are many reasons that there are very few libs in the military. I saw many of them first-hand.
You should really get out more and experience just how the liberal community really treats gays. I have a few casual aquaintences who are gay. Not enough room to tell any the stories of the actual contempt a lot of liberals have for the gay community.
By far the dumbest thing I’ve read here so far. And that’s even after reading Fleming’s tone-deaf stylings.
The fact that a humor column somehow passes as a dictum to libtards just underscores the fact that this is a humor column. Frank J doesn’t even have to write a full column to put the exclamation point on his thesis: Liberals are dumb, mean spirited, knee-jerk reactionists.
Frank J makes an excellent argument that people fear what they don’t understand. Libs want to live in a controlled environment, sacrificing their freedoms for percieved protection from the boogeyman, but most don’t have the “stones” to put their own safety on the line and stand up for themselves. So they throw stones from behind a bunker built upon conservative ideals of self-reliance, intestinal fortitude, and sacrifice (i.e. the US Constitution and Bill of Rights). Then they cry like sissies when the stony onslaught is returned.
Re: Dr. Matt– The reason the Reagan years went well is because of CONSERVATIVE ideals. Bush I and II faltered in their stance, and fell, unceremoniously. Don’t confuse true “Conservatism” with the current state of the GOP. It’s a common mistake.
You were in the Marines? How long did it take to revert to a passive-aggressive sissy?
LOL, self-project much?
Whatever. Let’s split the country into two countries and compare notes in a century, if the “liberal” country makes it that long without imploding, which I doubt.
As for their “paranoia” about violence, I’m not so sure it is paranoia. I can think of a few right off the bat that, if push comes to shove, I’m “shoving”. I’m sure I’m not alone. There’s a time for words and a time for deeds.
#13 BC – Wow. A girl from Beijing (that is the capital of Communist China, btw) finds Conservatives appalling. She lauds the “diverse” ChiComm news media. So, now she only dates Leftists.
Could it be simply because she grew up in a Far-Left State? “When you cast pearls before swine, they will attack you.” Do you really expect a different result from someone who’s been indcotrinated her whole life?
I enjoyed your response but you got a few things wrong:
Quite impossible. I watch Rachel Maddow nightly.
I’m;
Hetero,
This is what I meant by being picked on in grammar school ….
Live in East Tennessee,
I didn’t know they had the Internet in East Tennessee. My bad. Does Charlie Gibson live out there?
Served in the Marines,
Of COURSE you did. In Vietnam. With John McCain and Rambo. I bet you have three purple hearts.
Went to a Catholic school,
Naturally. A private school, no doubt, where you got straight A’s in everything but English composition.
voted for Reagan,
If I had a dime for every time I heard that …. Also, did you know Reagan hated gays and caused the AIDS virus?
Have read all of Rand’s novels and Branden’s The Passion of Ayn Rand and Burns’ Goddess of the Market,
Isn’t wikipedia a grand thing? Have you also read Bill Ayers’ two biographies of Barack Obama or Nancy Pelosi’s bestseller? Also, how is it you’re such a reader, but you can’t even use capitalization and semi-colons correctly?
As recently as 2001 mistakenly believed that I was somewhat allied with the Right.
Then you came out of the closet, a-la the ex-marine in American Beauty, guns a-blazin’. Isn’t it amazing how closely aligned with reality Hollywood usually is?
But other than that, you only made a few absurdly wrong statements about me.
Perhaps. Then again, it taint no thang for one to make absurdly wrong statements about a single individual when one is not being even slightly serious.
It’s quite another for one to make absurdly wrong statements about well over a hundred million people when one is being completely serious.
Which, by the way, is exactly what you were complaining about.
Fish. Barrel. Bang!
No matter what you say or do, that image will be in your head all day.
The image of you sitting with your pants around your ankles, your enormous belly flopping onto to the keyboard and your little pecker protruding slightly over your shrivelled ball-sack? That’s the only image that your writing conveys; but you’re right, its going to be hard to shake it unfortunately.
27. moho:
First, I’m no liberal, and you’re no conservative. But hazarding a guess as to why they hate right-wing douchebags, I’d say its the absolutely impenetrable stupidity. Just guessing here.
Oh, boy, moho speaks “ex cathedra”. Wait, did I say “oh, boy”? I meant “yawn”.
Nietzsche once said, “A great man’s guesses are worth more than a mediocre man’s certainties”. I’m guessing he didn’t have your guess about this article in mind, sh!tstain.
#13 BC – A woman raised in Communist China now shuns Conservatives, finding them appalling? Now she only dates Libs. Quelle surprise! Do you expect a different response from someone who has been indoctrinated her whole life?
“When you cast pearls before swine, they attack you.”
This site is great but such self serving arguments just seem, well, stupid. Individuals exercise freedoms not groups. Regardless of ideological background, any one “liberal” could live more or less free than any one “conservative”. To argue that merely believing one system or the other makes an individual free, while it may stroke some egos here, is silly. The beauty of our system is that is allows both to be free. That is worth defending even if you don’t like the way others excercise these freedoms.
12. Phil:
I disagree with the entire premise of this article. Hate is a very strong word that does not apply in this case. Liberals do not hate conservatives. Liberals find conservative policies to be disgusting.
Go ahead and hate me. Find my policies disgusting. Find my existence a crime against humanity. Unless you’re gonna actually do something about it (I would love to have you try, since self-defense is a valid defense in almost any criminal proceeding), I don’t care.
Marc. Pearls attack you? Well, I’ve read crazier stuff here.
Go ahead and hate me. Find my policies disgusting. Find my existence a crime against humanity. Unless you’re gonna actually do something about it (I would love to have you try, since self-defense is a valid defense in almost any criminal proceeding), I don’t care.
He was talking about conservatives, not knighstick-fellating authoritarian nimrods.
Marc Malone,
BC is full of it. Completely.
I should know: I’m married to a Chinese, and have been hanging around Chinese people my whole life.
It’s been awhile since I’ve posted here, but isn’t BC the local 20-year-old male going through his post-university Chomsky phase?
Or am I confusing him with somebody else?
Moho #28, quit using my identity your spineless foolish coward.
This reminds me of Al Capp’s acronym S.W.I.N.E “Students Wildly Indignant About Nearly Everything” from the Li’l Abner comic strip.
Unlike your conservative brethren, we don’t condemn you for how you were born.
So you believe that homosexuality is a genetic aberration/trait/mutation N&T? You do realize the religious prohibition against homosexuality is based upon reason and scientific fact right? If you don’t think I’m right try this little thought experiment on for size.
If all members of a species became homosexuals before the species was able to perform artificial insemination and no longer had heterosexual intercourse what do you think would happen to that species?
Homosexuality is bad for a species whether you believe in Darwin and evolution or a religion.
This is getting downright schoolyard: “I’m rubber, you’re glue…” Yawn.
Is there in fact a logical imbalance to break through the balance-of-ad-hominems? Yes, actually. The essential difference, which Frank Fleming got onto but painted rather too unsubtly, is the essential fact that modern Western ‘liberals’ (progressives, leftists, Reds, Greens etc) want to tell other people how to live their lives, and conservatives* do not. “Leave me alone, and I’ll return the favor,” we say; whereas leftists want to boss everyone around.
This is the source of a core belief of leftists and the cornerstone of their rhetoric, the meme that “conservatives are stupid and/or evil.” This is so because if one arrogates to himself the right to coerce another individual human being and bend him to one’s desires, one has to rationalize away his free will, equal to one’s own. Therefore one posits that this individual’s free will is defective and therefore illegitimate: it must be condemned as a lumpenproletarian failure to understand the Justice and Wisdom of our Enlightened Verfugungen, or a venality which refuses to sacrifice free will for the Greater Good (as we define it).
Old Reagan was generous when he declared “not evil, just wrong.” Actually it is evil, although in many individual specimens of leftist the wickedness is merely venial sin, an adolescent romanticism or childish selfishness (yes, lefties, your Democrats/Labour/whomever are the true gimme-gimme-gimme Parties of Greed). But many Leftists are fully aware and cognizant and have embraced their inner dictator, whether it manifests itself in campus speech codes, or ecofascism, or Margaret Sanger’s “Negro Project,” or the Wannsee Conference.
(RR also quipped that “It isn’t what liberals don’t know; it’s that so much of what they do know just isn’t so.” Again, generous; while there are lots of deluded soft-lefties who still believe in discredited nonsense like the Keynesian Multiplier, I fear many of them, including Obama, Krugman, Pelosi et al, know damn well it’s rubbish- and don’t care. Certainly the core cabal behind the AGW scam know it’s crap, since they’re the ones who made it up.)
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*Burke/Mills conservatives, old-style ‘liberals.’ Not the Religious Right, with its unhealthy obsession with who’s sleeping with whom.
The liberanos (check ezralevant.com about them, because it says a lot) simply can’t stand being made to look bad. Why
do they look bad? Because they only take into consideration what is definable. Given that everything which is definable has not yet been defined is bad enough, when they collide with the real, yet indefinable, they see they are over matched. The result – conduct which is hardly worth emulating.
In other words, conduct in harmony with the worst angels of human nature.
@ Francis W. Porretto
Thank you for the quote and the book. I was not familiar it, so I searched and found this excerpt which I am reading now. Wow. I need to get the book!
The Humanitarian With the Guillotine
http://mises.org/story/2739
Well said, Real Deal!
I don’t know who said the original statement, but it’s false anyway. If people were born homosexuals then no one would be able to change. People can and do change, so the argument that no one has any choice in the matter is false.
Also, “condemning” is used to describe any sort of disagreement with homosexuality. Disagreeing (and presenting facts upon which you base your disagreement) is not condemning.
If people choose to use their bodies in that way, that’s their business. But don’t pressure me into accepting it or agreeing that it’s okay.
To use their own language, “Don’t push your morals on me!”
Unlike your conservative brethren, we don’t condemn you for how you were born.
Translation: I’m completely ignorant, but that never stops me from parroting talking points!
Deeper translation: And your refusal to celebrate my gayness (over and over and over) hurts my feelings. And I crave your approval!
Only translation that matters: I’m not getting the therapy I desperately need.
34. 98ZJUSMC:
If they are “staunchly conservative” then they are for DODT. And for DOMA. And against gay marriage. Against hate crimes legislation. Against gay rights of any kind. Because that is the conservative party line. Just ask Mark Sanford or John Ensign or Ted Haggard or Larry Craig or David Vitter or Newt Gingrich or Rush Limbaugh or Bob Allen or Glenn Murphy Jr. or Mark Foley or any of the other family values champions who define the conservative POV on “the gay” thing.
Maybe you should ask your gay friends about that party line the next time you see them. The question isn’t whether gays embrace conservatives. It’s whether conservative embrace gays. The answer to that is no.
52. Real Deal:
“You do realize the religious prohibition against homosexuality is based upon reason and scientific fact right?:
And that reason and scientific fact is . . . ? Believe me, you’ll prove god exists before you prove gay is a choice. You can’t prove either.
54. David W. Lincoln:
Gee, thanks for clearing that up. Now how about clueing us in to cold fusion.
Gosh, Frank. These guys just can’t get enough. This has to be the best troll bait I have ever seen. Thank you for giving these people something to shake their tiny fists at in impotent rage to keep them from actually going out, getting a job, and getting in the way of the productive folks out there. You deserve a medal.
#59 Now and Then -
I am not Real Deal, but I’ll put in my two cents.
Reason would be that bodies function in certain ways and not in others. One does not use their eyes to eat with or their mouth to hear with. Such a thing would be ridiculous because that’s not what these parts of the body are equipped to do. The same is true for homosexual behavior. (The fact that this has to be explained to adults is unbelievable to me.)
Scientific evidence would be all the health issues that arise from people misusing their bodies in that way. Look it up for yourself. I’m not going to waste my time doing it because your nasty attitude tells me you have no interest in looking at or thoughtfully considering facts.
48. Anonymous:
He was talking about conservatives, not knighstick-fellating authoritarian nimrods.
I’m actually the exact opposite of an authoritarian, which is why I can smell them a mile a way, from the natural disgust I feel in my stomach when in their presence.
And the closest I get to fellating is watching the Left trip over itself to fellate Obama, which also provokes a distinct type of disgust.
“So if we all preach liberty enough, maybe they’ll all go away.”
To Liberal, Kansas (pop 14,911)?
I found that among the definitions of “liberal” at
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberal
Columnist Paul Greenberg once said that we’re all liberals in America, because no one here wants a monarchy (an official one, anyway), so I’m pretty cool with definitions 4-13 at the dictionary.com site, except maybe the last part of 4, about government securing our civil liberties. Guarantee yes, secure…that’s our job.
But the rest of it is pretty much okay, so all we have to do is convince the dictionary people that definitions 1-3 are lies: should be easy enough, because “progressive” doesn’t really mean anything at all. Then the next time we see a liberal, we give them a dictionary, hug them and say “brother!” or “sister!” as the case may be, and watch their heads explode.
@ Bohemond:
Modern Western ‘liberals’ (progressives, leftists, Reds, Greens etc) want to tell
other people how to live their lives, and conservatives* do not.
“The human race divides politically into
two classes: Those who want to control
other people’s behavior, and those who
have no such inclination.” – Heinlein
As usual, one needs to read Heinlein
carefully, to find the hook in the bait:
In this case, it is the word “people”;
This distinguishes between law and
social engineering.
and yes, hate is the word, amplified by
the growing unacknowledged fear that,
having won, after a fifty year long
march through Academe, Politics, and the
MSM, they are still going to lose, because
the exceptional nature of the US includes
a refusal to follow their current leaders
off a financial cliff.
If conservatives are all about freedom, then explain the drug war, and the internet gambling ban.
I think the biggest divide between the “conservatives” and “liberals” is that the conservatives really wouldn’t mind collectivist measures like “universal health care” if they (1) can opt out of it and (2) don’t have to pay (be taxed, directly or indirectly) to subsidize it for people who are in it.
Freedom is choice, pure and simple. The “progressives,” and the “paleo-conservatives,” both hate the idea.
I’m actually the exact opposite of an authoritarian, which is why I can smell them a mile a way, from the natural disgust I feel in my stomach when in their presence.
If this were actually true, you’d spend the majority of your time on this website excoriating the ignorant authoritarians that post here. You don’t; this leads me to believe that you actually don’t understand the meaning of the term, nor do you understand its significance in your life.
Is this really a discussion about “liberals” ? I get along fine and can agree to disagree on some issues with the actual liberals I know.
Those folks don’t march, break store front windows, revert to burning cars or use violence in any way. Their rhetoric is tempered and there are some mild differences concerning policy.None are haters and are generally pretty accepting.
So,I think the majority of the leftists I see posting on most talk boards are anything but liberal.
If this were actually true, you’d spend the majority of your time on this website excoriating the ignorant authoritarians that post here. You don’t; this leads me to believe that you actually don’t understand the meaning of the term, nor do you understand its significance in your life.
You know what I also don’t do? Take advice from you. Nor do I consider myself the PJM authoritarianism hall monitor.
Yeah, a guy like me, who’s entire political philosophy can be summed up as “Leave me the f*ck alone” 99.99% of the time, is an authoritarian. I know up is down in the trolls’ bizzaro universe, but that doesn’t mean the rest of us have lost our sanity.
I know up is down in the trolls’ bizzaro universe, but that doesn’t mean the rest of us have lost our sanity.
You’ve acknowledged that others here are authoritarians, and yet you lump yourself in with them to gain some defense against the accusation that you’re an authoritarian [lol]. You claim they cause you to feel extreme disgust, but you’re never moved to vent it. I think you’re full of it. I think you aren’t sure what you believe.
Joenic…the explanation is that they aren’t really conservatives. There are very few of them left, having been marginalized by these brainless authoritarian power-worshiping ignoramuses.
“the authors here are authoritarians”
Are you really that intellectually deficit?
We (by which I mean Conservatives) want smaller government, less taxes, and generally to be allowed to run our own lives, businesses, etc. Without YOU and YOUR ilk meddling in it. And that makes US authoritarian? I think this word, it does not mean what you think it means.
We (by which I mean Conservatives) want smaller government, less taxes, and generally to be allowed to run our own lives, businesses, etc.
How did the Iraq war fit into this? This is why you’re not a conservative. Also, I think you meant “intellectually deficient”, not deficit.
So, if I address the war, which subject will you then flip to because it’s not comfortable for you.
I stated intellectually deficit, and that’s what I meant. Or do you not know what a deficit is? (Who knew I was speaking to a lib?)
German intelligence told us that Saddam Hussein was helping Al Qaeda. Middle Eastern intelligence told us that Saddam Hussein was using biological weapons. SADDAM HUSSEIN TOLD us he was. We found mass graves there where he used said weapons on indigenous populations. We found residue from said weapons (which have likely made there way since to Syria and Iran). Therefore, he was a threat to the United States and our allies to remove. So we did. Why was it again that we shouldn’t have gone there? Or does writing especially strongly worded letters to despotic homicidal dictators the only way a liberal is allowed to respond? (See Jimmah Carter @ Iran on how swell that works)
Seems to me the average liberal ideology is that we must allow our government control everything inside our borders, even allow people outside our borders to control us (see the Kyoto Protocol), but heaven forbid we ever respond to a threat from outside!
I stated intellectually deficit, and that’s what I meant. Or do you not know what a deficit is?
Someone can have an intellectual deficit, they can’t be one, as it is a term that’s used to characterize intellect, not people. Its like calling someone a money shortage, rather than indicating they suffer from one.
Moving on. You threw away trillions of dollars, and put more on credit, adding to the destruction of our economic system. A true conservative would have waited to make sure there was no other way. We know now that had we waited to be more sure of the case, there would have been no reason to go to war and thus destroy our economy. Indeed, we do know that there was no hurry whatsoever, and that the case for rushing was contrived.
Again, a conservative, by very definition would have moved slowly and judiciously. Its the complete opposite of you idiots, running headlong into the abyss, as long as someone gives you the opportunity for a fireworks show.
Dr. Matt:
As a fellow independent I have a different view from yours.
Liberal: We have passed a law that requires you to turn the keys of your truck over to us.
Conservative: What? It’s my truck! Why?
Liberal: Because your neighbor doesn’t have a truck and needs it. But you will be able to drive your truck or someone’s truck when your number is up.
Conservative: But that’s my personal property!
Liberal: Um, yes personal problem can be a problem. But the people voted for ‘change’. Now hand over your keys or else you will be arrested.
Conservative: But this neighbor you will give these keys to is a reckless driving drunk.
Liberal: That’s racist!
Conservative: But what about you, do you have a truck?
Liberal: Yes, my truck is top-of-the-line fully maintained and insured, with chauffeur, all at taxpayers expense.
Conservative: Well, then give me the keys to your truck and I will be glad to hand over the keys to mine.
Liberal: No can do, you and others not in our circle are not allowed to have the keys to our trucks and we are not required to give our keys to anyone.
Conservative: Is this a nightmare? Is this America?
Liberal: You seem to express right-wing extremist views. We will call a truck for you to take you to see one of our state counselors for psychiatric examination. Luckily for you, as we have moved closer to the European model of social policy, and the Euros like us better for it, you will receive a free course of treatment including education and certification of correct thinking.
Conservative: (Opens his truck, reaches behind the seat and pulls out a long object). You see this? This is a Browning gas-operated semi-auto Gold shotgun. This is going to be all the education you ever need!
Liberal: I understand you have a right to own a gun but you don’t have a right to own ammunition unless you are approved in our registry. Hand over the ammunition now.
Conservative: Say what?
Liberal: Hand over the ammunition or the police will surround you!
Conservative: Ha Ha, that’s a laugh! My uncle is the County Sheriff and one of my sons is a police officer. I think you overplayed your hand here Libby!
Liberal: We will call in the Feds, BATF. They will have no local ties to any of your relatives. Unauthorized possession of ammunition is a federal crime!
Conservative: Why you commie puke!
Liberal: Fascist Nazi Racist Christian Right-Wing Trash!!!
Independent: Hey Libby, back off! This guy was minding his own business before you tried to take his truck.
Liberal: Our law is the law.
Independent: Yeah? Well you crammed that law down our throats and come election time we are gonna shove it up your *ss!!
Liberal: We will let our ACORN and SEIU representatives pay you a visit, or maybe we will have the special truck come for you as well. We won’t need your vote anyways after we have the new voting block of regularized undocumented immigrants.
Liberal or Leftist ?
Rule of thumb:
A Liberal may disagree with a conservative
policy on practical or philosophical grounds.
A Leftist has a reflexive emotional response,
equivalent to religious hysteria, to all
conservative policies.
Hint: This means that Liberals are in more
danger from the Loony Liberal Left than are
Conservatives; Apostate vs. Heretic.
As to fear: What fear was it that reduced
Pelosi to tears, not too long ago ?
71. Anonymous:
Ever hear of this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
68. Elliot: wrote
‘Is this really a discussion about “liberals” ?…So,I think the majority of the leftists I see posting on most talk boards are anything but liberal.’
This is actually a very important point.
Liberals and moderates are actually in opposition, not liberals and conservatives. A moderate will usually self describe him or her self as such based on their approach to what they consider primary issues of concern, yet hold very liberal views on other issues. Vice versa for self described liberals. Moderates and liberals differ in their politics, but the numbers shift when you look at their reactions to politics as a tool for social engineering. Polls consistently show the majority as identifying itself as conservative, while at the same time liberal politicians (both Dem and GOP)are more successful in local elections.
Conservatives are in opposition to progressives. The difference is not primarily defined by the approach to or opinions held on specific issues. That’s secondary. What defines their difference is the rejection or embrace of politics as a tool for social engineering. The conservative camp is heavy on moderates, but also has plenty of folks holding liberal views on many issues. The progressive camp gathers in liberals who have no room for moderation – hard leftists – but no self-described moderates.
Unfortunately the term ‘liberal’ – in academia, in the media, and in increasingly general use, and her on this site – is too often substituted for ‘progressives’ by conservatives. It’s obfuscatory, but the misuse of the more generic term ‘liberal’ has the far more insidious effect of providing cover for the left.
The tools we stumble over in PJM comment threads and call trolls are not liberals – moho had that right for a wonder – but just the marching morons that progressives use to mask the real face of the left. The same sort of useful fools that social engineers have always used.
Dr. Mike – What kind of paranoid persecution fantasy was that?
Dr. Mike, have you noticed that the United States is by and large a CONSERVATIVE country. Which irks us on the left because for some reason it does bother us that people go to sleep without food and sick people go bankrupt and we think, “Hey, if we’re so freaking great why can’t we take care of our fellow Americans?”
Suddenly it’s all about how we’re trying to “control” you and dystopian sci-fi plots.
The Truck, Take IV:
Conservative fills up truck with gasoline, while minding own business & whistling, “Doo-to-doo-to-doo.” Conservative walks into 7-11 to buy Big Gulp.
Liberal sneaks out from behind dumpster, steals truck, gives truck to homeless crack addict as subsidized housing, & leaves unicycle in place with note saying, “Racist Hater, gasoline kills protected striped June bug & interferes with dreamy cloud formations. R. v. W. Rules.”
The End.
PS: Aureliano, you are The Man.
Most of the posters here are in denial. Frank wrote succinctly the problem with liberals. I know a lot of liberals and they are always haughty, vile, accusatory, narrow minded and full of anger. Many of them are marxists and socialists and as you described, afraid of freedom. The people who posted today are shamelessly paranoid of their inherited birthright, and want to give their freedom away to the government. The current administration is teaming with marxist czars. Great article as usual Frank
Lefty:
Dr. Mike – What kind of paranoid persecution fantasy was that?
IT WASN’T ANY SUCH THING. IT WAS A CONTINUATION OF THE CARICATURE OF THE TRUCK METAPHOR BROUGHT DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF REALITY THAT THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH AND SOMEONE IS GOING TO LOSE SOMETHING.
Dr. Mike, have you noticed that the United States is by and large a CONSERVATIVE country.
GEE, DUH….I GUESS ONLY LIBERAL GENIUSES COULD HAVE SUCH PROFOUND INSIGHT AS TO NOTICE THAT.
Which irks us on the left because for some reason it does bother us that people go to sleep without food and sick people go bankrupt and we think, “Hey, if we’re so freaking great why can’t we take care of our fellow Americans?”
BECAUSE IT ISN’T “WE” THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BUT A TARGET THAT YOU WILL NEED TO FIND AND SHAKEDOWN.
OUR FELLOW AMERICANS WHO DO NOT PAY OR WON’T PAY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE SHOW UP AT THE ERs AND GET ALL THEY NEED. THEY SAY THEY WILL PAY AND THEM THEY DON’T.
ARE THEY TOO POOR TO PAY? NO. THEY SEE IT AS A FREEBEE. EXAMPLE: UKRANIAN IMMIGRANTS WERE TOLD THEY CAN GET A FAMILY CATASTROPHIC HEALTH INSURANCE POLICY WITH COMPLETE COVERAGE WITH A DEDUCTIBLE OF $2500. THEY MAKE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO PAY THE MONTHLY PREMIUMS BUT THEY DON’T WANT TO HAVE TO PAY THE DEDUCTIBLE. ONE OF THEM GOT APPENDICITIS COSTING THE ER OVER $25,000 (SURGEONS AND NURSES DO NOT WORK FOR FREE). THEY PAID NONE OF IT. THE ER GOT PARTIALLY PAID BY A COMMUNITY SUBSIDY TAKEN FROM THE COUNTY PAID FOR BY PROPERTY OWNERS. THE INSURANCE POOL WAS BYPASSED AND THE DEBT SADDLED ON PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO WHERE’S THIS “WE”? IT’S GRANDMA IN THE BUNGALOW PAYING HER $1800 A YEAR PROPERTY TAX TO THE IMMIGRANTS WHO EXPECT FREE STUFF.
Suddenly it’s all about how we’re trying to “control” you and dystopian sci-fi plots.
NO, IT’S NOT SUDDEN. THERE’S A TRACK RECORD IN HISTORY OF EVERY POINT MADE, FROM COMPULSORY PSYCHIATRIC EXAMINATION TO BAN ON SALES OF AMMUNITION. DON’T THINK FOR A MINUTE THOSE ISSUES WERE JUST INVENTED, THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME AND CONTINUE TO SURFACE.
bc:”I know this girl who moved from Beijing several years ago…..”
words cannot describe how funny that was….bc you are precious.
Liberals, look at what has spewed from the left for the last 9 years. This is in no way in the league with your much practiced vilifications. This is just a mirror that is even frosted for your protection; the glare of truth might be harmful to those unused to it.
Every basic premise of the Democrats for the last 33 years has been the seizure of control and the limiting of freedoms.
This is actually a very important point.
Its pretty obvious that you wouldn’t know an important point if you were sitting on it.
Island Girl:Most of the posters here are in denial. Frank wrote succinctly the problem with liberals. I know a lot of liberals and they are always haughty, vile, accusatory, narrow minded and full of anger. Many of them are marxists and socialists and as you described, afraid of freedom. The people who posted today are shamelessly paranoid of their inherited birthright, and want to give their freedom away to the government. The current administration is teaming with marxist czars. Great article as usual Frank
Most fully functioning writers would take your approval as withering criticism.
Dr. Mike – Most people sound like raving lunatics in allcaps, but you… you’re special.
Besides which lets clear up a little misconception here. The $25K you’re talking about isn’t the actual cost of an appendectomy. The majority of those patients who walk in with insurance are billed a negotiated rate.
It’s like Walmart, Target or BJ’s buying a cheese grater from you for $5 and you selling it to me for $25. Except it’s not a cheese grater it’s an appendix removal. If a hospital couldn’t get $25K for the procedure from an insurance or HMO or Medicare, by what logic is the price $25K? They clearly can charge less and do.
Hospitals themselves have an interest in inflating costs since the majority of non-insured aren’t going to pay and they can get more money reimbursed from Granny’s taxes by crying about the $25K they are owed rather than the $5K they would have gotten from Medicaid.
Uninsured people should pay a premium, but the costs have been unchecked and hospitals routinely produce fraudulent bills. I recall many disputes with the hospital during my mother’s battle with cancer.
As for the rest of your comment, I heartily recommend Alcoa Heavy Duty Tin Foil. Nothing is gonna get through that.
words cannot describe how funny that was….bc you are precious.
I’m sure words do a fine job. Its you brain that fails.
70
You’ve acknowledged that others here are authoritarians, and yet you lump yourself in with them to gain some defense against the accusation that you’re an authoritarian [lol]. You claim they cause you to feel extreme disgust, but you’re never moved to vent it. I think you’re full of it. I think you aren’t sure what you believe.
I didn’t “acknowledge” anyone was or wasn’t an “authoritarian”, I said it wasn’t my job to monitor PJM for authoritarian impulses.
Of the links I’ve clicked on at PJM, none of the stories that were attached to said links demonstrated “authoritarian” impulses, unless one was inclined to a Frankfurt School-esque cartoonish definition of “authoritarian” to include anyone who’s ever said it might be OK to discipline your kids by spanking them once in a blue moon. In other words, feel free to play the part of the Don Quixote of authoritarian hunters, just spare me the petulant whining that I don’t enjoy tilting at that particular set of windmills.
I know I believe you’re an *sshole. Not much, but it’s a start.
Cons4ervative: Please don’t drive into that wall.
Liberal: You are ignorant and uninformed. In college, they taught us that we MUST drive into the wall.
Conservative: Please don’t drive into that wall.
Liberal: Conservatives are so stupid! Don’t you know if we don’t craash into the wall, we will all die?
Crash!
Liberal: You know, we inherited that wall from the Bush administration.
just spare me the petulant whining that I don’t enjoy tilting at that particular set of windmills.
All the whining has come from you, as you defend yourself from what is an evidently obvious assertion. Feel free to stop desperately trying to convince me otherwise.
87. Anonymous:
This is actually a very important point.
Not a problem, moho. I hadn’t the slightest expectation that you’d understand it.
And what’s with the Anonymous comments? Having trouble getting your comments under moho the marching moron handle out of moderation? Again?
Conservatives are happier people, we all know that and that drive the libs crazy.
Lefty:
Dr. Mike – Most people sound like raving lunatics in allcaps, but you… you’re special.
THE CAPS ARE TO SEPARATE MY COMMENTS FROM YOUR CONDESCENDING INANITY.
Besides which lets clear up a little misconception here. The $25K you’re talking about isn’t the actual cost of an appendectomy. The majority of those patients who walk in with insurance are billed a negotiated rate.
I’M AN MD, I KNOW HOW IT WORKS. DO NOT PRESUME TO INSTRUCT THOSE THAT KNOW MORE THAN YOU. THE SHORTNESS OF THE EXAMPLE WAS DUE TO LEAVING OUT UNNECESSARY DETAIL. IT’S CALLED BEING CONCISE. BUT THE GIST OF THE EXAMPLE WAS LOST ON YOU. I AM SURE NO ONE IS SURPRISED ABOUT THAT.
THE REST OF YOUR NONSENSICAL POST IS NOT WORTH REPEATING BECAUSE IT IS OFF-TOPIC, FILLED WITH HYSTERICAL ANECDOTAL BANTER AND INSULTING TO THOSE THAT HAVE WORKED TO CULTIVATE CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS.
WE KNOW HOW THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM WORKS. WE KNOW HOW IT CAN WORK BETTER. YOUR CONTRIBUTION IN THIS FORUM IS NOT UNIQUE, NOT INFORMATIVE, NOT SUBSTANTIAL IN CONTENT, CERTAINLY NOT NEW AND FILLED WITH AN ATTITUDE THAT “YOU KNOW SOMETHING” WHEN IT IS PATENTLY OBVIOUS THAT YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS RUN-OF-THE-MILL GARDEN VARIETY COMMON IGNORANCE THAT ONLY YOU ENJOY SEEING WRITTEN ON THE INTERNET.
YOU THINK YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO CONTRIBUTE. NOW HEAR THIS, THOSE OF US THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK MORE THAN ONCE HAVE SEEN SUCH SOPHOMORIC TRIPE OF THE SAME SPECIES. IT EMANATES FROM THOSE THAT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE WERE TOLD NO, AND THEY DIDN’T LIKE IT. TOO BAD. LIFE IS NOT FAIR.
I’LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE. LIBERAL FAMILY MEMBER OF MINE HAD A CHILD. I WAS GODFATHER. CHILD TURNED 3 YEARS OLD AND DEVELOPED EPILEPSY. I WAS COMPLETING MY DOCTORATE GENERAL EXAMS AFTER COMPLETING MED SCHOOL. I TOOK OFF 4 DAYS DURING EXAM PREP TO HELP MY LIBERAL FRIEND GET FREE HIGH LEVEL DOCTOR CARE FOR HIS CHILD AT THE UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL WHERE I HAD CONNECTIONS. NOT A THANK YOU, AND I WAS NEAR COLLAPSE FROM NO SLEEP. NOT A THANK YOU!
LATER AFTER HE RETURNED TO HIS HOME STATE I HEARD MY LIBERAL FRIEND COMPLAIN THAT NO INSURANCE WAS AVAILABLE FOR HIS CHILD’S PRE-EXISTING CONDITION OF EPILEPSY. I LOOKED AT HIS CAR, IT WAS A NEW SUV. I SCREAMED AT HIM AND SAID YOU HAD THAT DAMN CAR WHEN YOUR CHILD WAS BORN, YET YOU HAD NO HEALTH INSURANCE. YOU COULD HAVE HAD A SMALLER OLDER CAR AND BOUGHT INSURANCE AND TODAY YOUR CHILD WOULD BE COVERED!
MY LIBERAL FRIEND WAS IRRESPONSIBLE AND THANKLESS. HE WANTED SOMEONE ELSE TO WORK FOR FREE OR SOMEONE ELSE TO PAY.
I GOT NEWS FOR YOU! SOMEONE IS GOING TO PAY! YEAH, IT’S GOING TO BE YOU! YOU’RE GOING TO PAY YOUR WAY THROUGH THIS LIFE THROUGH YOUR OWN LABOR AND YOU’RE NOT GOING TO LEECH ON THE REST OF US! COMPRENDE USTED?
95 Tish
Only a a happy person would obsess in a blog about why people hate them.
Frank, please stick with the satire. Removing motes from Liberals’ eyes is just PAINFUL, not funny. Having people prove you right about something like this is very sad. Thank you!
Not obsess, gloat. “Blessed are you when wicked tongues insult and hate you and utter every manner of evil accusation against you falsely for the sake of Righteousness, for great is your reward.”
Not a problem, moho. I hadn’t the slightest expectation that you’d understand it.
In the psych biz, they call that a moment of clarity. I say run with it and don’t look back.
What an outstanding article! Thanks Frank. Inspired work.
Frank, you stir up the liberal trolls better than anyone! I think every single regular Pajamas Media liberal troll has commented on this article. They really, really hate you. Good job!
How is it these liberal trolls have so much spare time to comment here? Conservatives waste a lot of time figuring stuff out for themselves. Even moderates have to figure some stuff out for themselves but liberals never need to. Liberals just accept whatever some expert or famous celebrity says and never waste time thinking about it at all. So they have plenty of free time to spend here. Sure there must be some liberal some place that thinks for himself but for sure they don’t have time to waste commenting here. Would you waste time commenting here if you could just call up acting President Pelosi and tell her what to think about anything? I think not!
Oops, time to go to work. Bye.
Except for sex. Liberals fly to defend liberty when it comes to anything to do with sex or anything of a sexual nature. For some reason, that’s the only thing they believe in being truly liberal about.
I agree with that, but I also believe in taking liberty much farther than just to the bedroom.
90.Anonymous:aw..don’t be jealous,twelve step.you ARE amusing,but you’re just too anal retentive to be humorous-or taken seriously.
on the other hand,i have a sneaking suspicion that bc believes what it writes and not just someone trying to pull your leg.
which….when you think about it….is really,REALLY funny.
Frank Grimes. Its definitely not a good idea to post when you’re this high.
Frank Fleming:
Look here you simpleton:
It is ovbious from your writing that you hate your self. liberals do not hate you or any one else to that matter. to hate someone takes a lot of energy and effort and you are not worht it.. still whole gun control BS is also old news. I am a LIBERAL and very much in favor of owning a gun. so that s….t loner flies. you need to find something new. I can tell you this for sure all of the people here who call themselves, the men have pencil p**ises that is why they put up a show like this and the women are an average of 4 foot tall weighing at least 250 lbs and very sexually frustrated..
Terry #9: I am assuming you are a catholic and did not like the word Pontificate.. this should be the least of your worries. Instead you should focus on church’s policy of encourraging the priest to molest 8 year old boys…
106.mrs:”still whole gun control BS is also old news”
president,barak obama:
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm
vice president,joe biden:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Joe_Biden_Gun_Control.htm
speaker of the house,nancy pelosi:
http://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Nancy_Pelosi_Gun_Control.htm
ok,that’s the three most powerful people in the goverment.so explain to me again how there is nothing to be concerned about while i puff this jay and touch my….uh,pencil p**ise?
Yeah, this is crazy:
Q: Is the D.C. law prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual’s right to bear arms?
A: As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can’t constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.
Q: But do you still favor the registration & licensing of guns?
A: I think we can provide common-sense approaches to the issue of illegal guns that are ending up on the streets. We can make sure that criminals don’t have guns in their hands. We can make certain that those who are mentally deranged are not getting a hold of handguns. We can trace guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers that may be selling to straw purchasers and dumping them on the streets.
Next thing you know, he’ll be saying that the first amendment doesn’t protect the right to yell fire in a crowded movie house. Everyone knows that a right is only a right if it has absolutely no limitations whatsoever.
By the way, that’s sarcasm. Idiot.
Dr. Mike – You know I’m told it’s your lovely bedside manner that attracts all the Conservative ladies in the waiting room out the door and around the block.
Look, if you don’t want people like your friend deciding to buy an SUV instead of health insurance, maybe you can lobby for a LAW that forces people to buy insurance. No more liberal leeches leeching on Health Care. Problem solved.
Q: You said recently, “I have no intention of taking away folks’ guns.” But you support the D.C. handgun ban, and you’ve said that it’s constitutional. How do you reconcile those two positions?
A: Because I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it’s important for us to recognize that we’ve got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people’s traditions.
after heller he changed his tune.
by the way,that’s called ‘backpedaling’,little fella.
b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.
Obama’s campaign said, “Sen. Obama didn’t fill out these state Senate questionnaires–a staffer did–and there are several answers that didn’t reflect his views then or now. He may have jotted some notes on the front page of the questionnaire, but some answers didn’t reflect his views.”
Source: FactCheck.org
by the way,that’s called lying….little fella.he
My liberal friend told me that he believes that it’s our government’s responsibility to make sure everyone lives up to his or her potential, has a job, has transportation, and has health care. When I pressed him for specifics (like defining) how someone can live up to his/her potential or how we were to guarantee people to work without compelling them to work and to pay for health coverage (forcing them to) and relocating remote people so that they could live closer to public transportation … well, he didn’t have an answer. He was hiding behind this naive notion that the government can make all this happen, when what he was really, truly expressing was his own, personal ideas of what people should and should not do and be. That’s awfully pushy if you ask me. Even God Almighty doesn’t do that — you still have free will to accept or deny Him and His Word.
I’ve always felt that it is deeply important for our country to have at least two strong parties. Boy was I naive. We have not even one. Yes, I’m a conservative.
Still, I would, in my lifetime, like to meet an intelligent liberal. I’ve always worked with liberals in my profession — and I’ve been burned for outing myself as a conservative. I’ve never met one that could articulate what makes an economy thrive or bomb. Sadly, I’ve never met one that walked the walk when it came to their numerous causes — wallets snapped shut, no time for volunteer work. Perhaps they were the worst kind of liberals, but their behaviour only confirmed my views.
My liberal friend told me that he believes that it’s our government’s responsibility to make sure everyone lives up to his or her potential, has a job, has transportation, and has health care.
From the tone and density of your post, I find it unlikely that you actually have friends.
These conservatives are anything but. They are ignorant, traitorous shills of England who lost the civil war and wish to recoup their broken dreams by embracing the authority of the corporofascist elite.
112. LouAnn::
“Still, I would, in my lifetime, like to meet an intelligent liberal . . . I’ve never met one that could articulate what makes an economy thrive or bomb.”
So, LouAnn, what makes an economy thrive or bomb? (Careful, the reputation of the great conservative intellect hangs in the balance.)
Is the prohibition of slander consistent with the First Amendment?
this thread is the gift that keeps on giving.
kochevnik,i am a connoisseur of sorts pertaining to paranoid delusional rantings and that was GOLD.
usually,you special creatures waste my time droning on for two paragraphs before getting to the good stuff but YOU slam dunked it.
hell,we could buy controlling interest in alcoa and i still would have serious doubts you would have the resources neccessary to protect that noggin’.
Frank: I neither blind nor deaf nor a dumb fu….. I do not nessricliy agree with everything President Obama, or Joe Biden or Ms. Pelosi have to say…
frank – Connoisseur? Pshaw, three lines does not make a paranoid delusional rant. What’s more there is no underlying Spinoza-like logical order asserting the veracity of a priori arguments.
In short it is a lazy attempt at pissing off Conservatives and shows none of the serious thought processes that are evidence of an individual with too much time and a paucity of sandwiches for a picnic.
Anyway, if he was really nutters he’d use allcaps.
120:typical leftist-way too critical.kochevnik worked real hard on that…..”traitorous shills of england..”you should be more supportive of his efforts.
120@frank grimes
Sorry but how much time and thought should one give the platform of rape and torture sympathizers? My bad!
121.understandable.but if you wouldn’t mind..could you delve further into the points you raised in post 114?
this time go even further back,try and work in “fundamentalist sexually frustrated,closet-homo puritan”-if you can.
Wow, did this little humor piece raise some hackles, or what? The lefties have proven the points in the article by attacking that which they don’t belive in and hate. So much for tolerance.
For those that think Libs have no sense of humor – one name amongst many greats – Jon Stewart. And how many of you ever heard of the horrible flop, “the Fox News 1/2 hour news hour?”
For those that think liberals are fearful – FDR, didn’t he say something about fear? You might want to look it up and become inspired. Was Cindy Sheehan afraid of Bush Co or those conservatives who RAN OVER mock Tombstones? Were the Jersey Girls afraid of Hannity, O’Reily, Coultergeist, Bush Co, or anyone else who treid to smear them for demanding the 9/11 investigation? (no Jersey Girls, no investigation, no 9/11 comsih report) Were Joe Wilson (the real hero) and Valerie Plame scared of scooter and cheney? Was Cyntia McKnney scared of the intmidation from our own Capitol Police as well as the Israeli Defense Forces? Are the gay members of the Military afraid of serving although they are hated by their conservative brothers? Are union members afraid of intimidation? Are tree-huggers afraid to risk their lives to prevent deforestation? I could go on and on? Was MLK Afraid? JFK Afraid? RFK Afraid? How about Ghandi? Who are the great conservative leaders who have been executed for helping the people? Lincoln? Anyone else, recent, in the last 100 years. hmmm, big victims you all are…
Wow, you just won the Olympic gold medal in shadow boxing..
No actually we hate you because your so dumb i.e. fighting for the side that does not represent what you actually want but unable to figure it out, because your so dumb and easily deceived by corporate propaganda.
We just hate that! But hey, should you wish to set up a colony on Mars, I promise not to look up and scream incoherent gibberish at you.
PS It’s only seems incoherent cause your so dumb.