The Real ObamaCare Fraud
In the final days before the climactic ObamaCare vote in Congress, one hotly disputed issue was the reliability of the Congressional Budget Office’s projection that the health plan would cost “only” $940 billion over 10 years. Critics charged that this figure was artificially low because it included a projected 21% cut in Medicare payments to physicians that Congress would later restore as a separate $247 billion “doc fix.” In essence, ObamaCare critics charged that supporters were engaged in fraudulent accounting.
The critics are right. In the short term, politicians are unlikely to leave the draconian 21% Medicare cuts in place, because it would force many physicians to treat Medicare patients at a loss. Many doctors would drop their Medicare patients (or at least refuse to accept new ones), creating an outcry from the senior citizens’ lobby. The projected cuts have already been postponed multiple times. Originally scheduled to take effect on January 1, 2010, Congress first postponed them until March 1, 2010, then until April 1, 2010, then again until October 2010.
However, such postponements won’t solve the long-term problem of rising Medicare costs. Hence, under ObamaCare the federal government also plans on cutting Medicare spending through measures that don’t overtly force doctors to lose money. Although these measures will be portrayed as steps to improve “quality” and “cost effectiveness,” they will in fact have the opposite effects of reducing quality of care and leading to de facto rationing. These constitute the real fraud of ObamaCare.
One planned cost-cutting measure will be a new system of “bundled payments” where hospitals and physicians receive a fixed fee to take care of Medicare patients’ conditions (e.g., a stroke or a heart attack) regardless of how much the care actually costs. Proponents claim this will reward efficient care and reduce unnecessary tests and procedures. Pilot programs are already underway in some cities, and the ObamaCare legislation would expand these programs to the national level in 2013.
But as Dr. Larry Martinelli (past chairman of the Clinical Care Committee of the Infectious Disease Society of America) warns, bundled payments “would pressure hospitals to try to save money by bringing on fewer specialists to consult on patients.” In other words, this proposed Medicare “reform” would reward doctors and hospitals for denying care to their patients.
Dr. Milton Wolf warns of other methods that ObamaCare would use to cut Medicare costs:
If your doctor is in the top 10 percent of primary care physicians who refer patients to specialists most frequently — no matter how valid the reasons — he will face a 5 percent penalty on all their Medicare reimbursements for the entire year. This scheme is specifically designed to deny you the chance to see a specialist. Each year, the insidious nature of that arbitrary 10 percent rule will make things even worse as 100 percent of doctors try to stay off that list. Many doctors will try to avoid the sickest patients, and others will simply refuse to accept Medicare.
ObamaCare also includes incentives to “encourage” doctors and hospitals to join together to form “accountable care organizations” (or ACOs) which would receive those bundled payments. The hospitals and doctors would then decide amongst themselves exactly how they wished to divide that fixed sum. The size of the allotments would of course be determined not by market forces but by government task forces using “quality metrics” and “cost effectiveness” analysis to determine how much spending was “appropriate.” And as political pressures to contain Medicare costs continued to increase, the size of the bundled payments deemed “appropriate” by the bureaucrats would almost certainly go down each year, rather than up.
The overall effect of these policies will be a vicious “race to the bottom,” as doctors are rewarded for avoiding the sickest Medicare patients and/or doing as little as possible for them.
Nor will this problem be confined to Medicare patients. As Betsy McCaughey notes, this will inevitably spill over onto patients with private insurance:
[ObamaCare] makes you enroll in a plan and then says that only doctors who do what the government dictates can be paid by your plan. “Qualified plans” can contract only with a doctor who “implements such mechanisms to improve health-care quality as the [current or future] secretary [of Health and Human Services] may by regulation require”(Sec. 1311, p. 148-49). That covers all of medicine, from heart care to child birth, stents to mammograms.
So if the federal government decides to “bend the cost curve” by requiring private insurers to adopt similar “bundled payment” schemes (as has already been proposed at the state level in Massachusetts), then this could affect all Americans.
Unlike the proposed 21% Medicare cuts, these long-term government “fixes” won’t explicitly force doctors to work at a loss. Instead, they will force doctors to choose between practicing according to their best conscience (and thus losing money for their “accountable care organizations”) or cutting medical corners to stay in the black.
These government-mandated “quality” and “cost effectiveness” measures will thus place doctors in a position where they are punished for upholding their Hippocratic Oath to treat patients according to their best ability and rewarded for violating it. If your doctor hears a suspicious heart murmur on a routine physical exam that warrants a cardiology referral, do you want him to hesitate — or even worse ignore it — because he fears being punished for sending too many patients to specialists?
Congress committed one fraud by failing to include the $247 billion “doctor fix” in its ObamaCare budget estimates. Congress committed another fraud when it passed a plan that it claimed would promote “quality” and “cost effectiveness” but will instead restrict and ration medical care for hundreds of millions of Americans.
Twenty years from now, which will we call the greater fraud?






I think Health Care reform is already the Law so debating health care reform for the next ten years, ot until our new law expires is rather … redundant …at this juncture. However, our elected officials may take some new issues up over the next few years so maybe your relevent points will be considered in future debates. So Keep up the good effort !!
How long do you think it will be before Dr. Hsieh and his colleagues lose the ability to refuse to take Medicare or Medicaid patients. When enough Doctors opt out of a system rigged against them, I expect the Democrats will try to require them to see any patient covered by Medicare, Medicaid or an exchange subsidized plan.
There is no freedom except the freedom to coerce.
Actually I think the REAL ObamaCare fraud is the way he somehow managed to delude himself that he could compel me personally to participate in in and be hit with a fine and/or jail if I don’t…while illegal aliens get full coverage for free…and Obama and members of Congress and their staffs and heaven only knows who else,will be able to opt out of it….how Barokeydoke managed to convince himself of such a thing only shows me that he can even run a con job on himself.
Please please I beg you Poor Citizen stop writing after all it was YOU who told us “THOUSANDS DIE” as YOU write have you no compassion. Especially when you just write your usual vacuous nonsense as you have done above.
To handle it by only looking at the numbers you first have to take the “human” out of human rights
#1 Poor Citizen: That is exactly what Obama and the Democrats want, for the health care debate to be over and long forgotten. The health care debate may be partly over, but the much needed analysis has only begun. Also, laws and the implementation of laws are two different things, and we must me diligent to make the best of what we have been dealt. Though dealt would be the wrong word, since the majority voted for Obama, and he is only doing what he planned to do in the first place.
Also, there is no other issue the thinking behind the health care reform is the on going issue, regardless of the form it takes.
As usual, politicians want us to believe in the nuanced fantasy tale they spin, and attack the release of facts against the tale with….. additional nuanced fantasy tales! Chavez and Castro are surely taking notes on this one!
I’ve been in family practice since 1982 and I remember capitation and HMOs, though apparently 49% of Americans don’t. It was rationing, to be sure, and patients hated it. I was one of the designated “gatekeepers” standing between them and what they wanted. More than once I got tire tracks on my chest for my trouble. I tried to point this out to one of my younger friends who was crowing about how wonderful reform was. That friend, by the way, had complained bitterly when she moved to California in 1995 and ran into the HMO system run by Kaiser. Well, I’m just saying: meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss.
Two areas of the HCR law that could be a significant problems is the management of patients with multiple/significant co-morbidities, and procedure/technology development. First, the management of patients with significant/multiple life threatening co-morbidities, these patients may require significant care and treatment. For example, if a patient suffers from metabolic syndrome (diabetes, hypertension, dyslipidemia), cardiovascular disease, sleep apnea, reflux disease, and orthopedic conditions, these patients may be managed by a PCP, but referred to a specialist or surgeon(s) for intensive therapies or surgical intervention, especially if the PCP has exhausted all known treatments within their boundaries of good clinical practice. These specialists may require further, more advanced and specialized tests (cardiac catheterization & nuclear medicine studies, sleep studies, blood studies, etc). If a PCP has a significant population of these patients they are managing, why punish the PCP for referring patients for treatment when it’s in the patients best interest for these treatment modalities.
Regarding technology/procedure development, from what I understand the HCR “rewards” treatment outcomes. Technology/procedure development helps patients could impact patients overall health care by reducing side effects/complications associated with some treatment modalities. For example, the development of laparoscopic surgical techniques during the late 1980′s are now the standard of care. However it took many years and the development of specialized equipment and techniques which have made the procedures safe and efficacious. Another area is the development of surgical robotics in specialized surgical procedures. The equipment is expensive, the surgeries may be more expensive than standard “open” procedures, however the patients may have better clinical outcomes (similar to laparoscopic surgeries, with some significant long term benefits to surgeons and patients alike). However, the learning curve may increase the surgery times and increase the initial cost of treatment, however long term the patient benefits (for example, reduced pain, return to normal activities quicker, better quality of life, etc). If the HCR law punishes facilities which are involved in these areas of clinical research, the society overall will suffer due to the lack of advancing testing/procedures/technologies.
“Unlike the proposed 21% Medicare cuts, these long-term government “fixes” won’t explicitly force doctors to work at a loss. Instead, they will force doctors to choose between practicing according to their best conscience (and thus losing money for their “accountable care organizations”) or cutting medical corners to stay in the black.”
And, as in many other parts of the world (e.g. parts of east Asia), you will have a two-tier system of public and private hospitals, and practices that forgo processing payments of third-party payers, which charge their own fees, and conduct their own practices as their conscience dictates. After all, there are medical specialties currently profitable that do not rely on third-party payers. The growth of practices that attract the best medical specialists,surgery for example, seems inevitable. There will be a market that supports that.
Think of it this way: The Constitution guarantees every citizen legal representation when charged under law by the state, but it does not guarantee the best representation. Sure, there will be lots of medical drones for the masses, but there will always be a market for the best, supported by the “best” among us.
All this became inevitable with the advent of third-party payment for medical treatment and the view that medical treatment is a social good and not a risk to be managed. Insurance is by design a vehicle for managing risk and not a vehicle for promoting social improvement. Stay healthy, it’s your best insurance.
“You and I must have the courage to say to our enemies there is a price we will not pay; there is a point beyond which they must not advance.” In 1964, Reagan spoke these words – referring to foreign enemies. Today we must communicate this message to the domestic enemies of the Constitution.
Here’s his speech in its entirety. It is worth your time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt1fYSAChxs
The folks that are low key in their praise should try reading this monster first. There are thousands of pages of controls (but not on the cost drivers), bribes, inclusions, exclusions and supposedly everyone will be on bended knee. The private sector workers and the 57 states burdened with this will use a word not found in the vocabulary inside the beltway. FACTS. This legislation will be continually modified (watered down) after states rights challenges and the economy slows (even more) because there is no one left to fund UTOPIA.
Odysseus: you are correct about the market outside of this mess. However, that will be deamed illegal in the US. So we will once again ship our business overseas where real health care options will be available. I can see it now, tremendously successful “Island” practices. The unwashed masses will be left behind to get what care is left. As usual there are a lot of people who are happy about this, since they get to make decisions of who lives or dies. We all die, some quicker that others. Thank a Democrat.
They’re really screwing us and the next couple generations over with the debt they’re running up. Maybe we should sign them all up as sex offenders. Where’s they psychiatrist so I can tell him where the bad congressman (or woman) touched me? ” No, not there doc, to the right more where my wallet is. I know it’s confusing doc, because I also feel like they shoved a flagpole there and told me to be patriotic and just pay my damn taxes.”
#12
This used to be true: “Insurance is by design a vehicle for managing risk and not a vehicle for promoting social improvement.”
Now of course the meaning of the word insurance has been stretched by the libruls so as to be unrecognizable, as was the word marriage. The reason libruls are so dumb is partly due to their eager acceptance of goofy changes in the meanings of words ages old.
“Insuring” pre-existing conditions has nothing to do with risk. It is simply paying for something that has already happened. I get sick, we all pay. Very simple really, simple theft. I’m so looking forward to the day when all my other bills will be paid by us, rather than just me.
No preexisting conditions?
No cap on patient and hospital health care cost?
ha.. (I love that one.)
Insurance on the 29 million that can’t buy health insurance?
And no public option?
Just the first three will drive all health insurance companies out of the business.
And never forget-
‘United Health Care’ and ‘Blue Cross and Blue Shield’ are not health insurance companies,
they only underwrite health insurance policies.
Their stock is going up because investors know they will have to control the governments new ‘public option’ in the future because health insurance companies will quit and start selling life insurance.
couple of questions.
Will the Internal Revenue Service start selling stock?
And could Obama send me a Unicorn?
It will not take very long before we see the results of this legislation. First will come the pahse designed to lull the populace into thinking that the outcome will be good. Increased revenues to the Federal Govt. will help with the deficit but not much. The math they use in Washington is too corrupt to understand anyway since we are already not taking in as much in Social Security as we are paying out and somehow the “Trust Fund” is still solvent when there is no money there.
Long before this legislation becomes fully operational in 2014-2018 it is almost certain that we will not be able to maintain a AAA rating in the Bond market. The increased intrest rates will mean that neary everything collected in taxes will be needed to just pay the Intrest. The result will be that we will be directly controlled by Institutions and Governments with the expressed purpose of weakening and then destroying our troublesome country.
Obamacare has just accelerated the coming fiscal crisis. The U.S. Dollar, which used to be the gold standard on all the currency exchanges will be considered a joke. The good news is that once this starts to happen all the pie in the sky promises will be seen for what it truely is and if we remain Americans by our nature we will not only survive but will once again prosper.
However this massive scam is packaged we can be sure, by the evaluations of history, that a government plan will have cost overruns. The Big Dig was bid at 2 billion and came in at 9 with crumbling infrastructure. That 4.5:1 index is one way to guess-timate massive public works projects.
Then there are the 157 new agencies surrounding Obama-care and each of those will add to the rules, and the costs, and public master control factors.
F.D.R. said that Social Security would benefit the economy and L.B.J. said that Medicare would stay in budget. Both of those massive fiscal failures are the core of why this new and more monsterous plan will suck down 1/6th the economy with the CBO predicting 90% debt to GDP in 2020. What we have here, gentlemen, is the snowball effect in hell.
The United States has for many years been like an “insurance policy” or safety valve for many Canadians. When faced with inability or excessive delay in getting treatment here, we could get that treatment in reasonable time by crossing the border.
Instead of waiting weeks for a simple diagnostic MRI for example, I could book an appointment in Buffalo and get it done within a couple of days. If it could mean a big different in my prognosis, the cost even out of pocket, even borrowed, is well worth it. Instead of waiting 6 to 18 months for a hip replacement, one can get it done in weeks or less by going south.
Soon that insurance will be gone (as will your private insurance options). In a few short years you will find that doctors will be prohibited from charging money directly to patients for services as that would allow people to get around the government control and *rationing* that is inevitable and is the reason for long waiting lists for our “free” care here.
Let’s see, by making public all 3,000% of his records, available in all 57 States, and translated in all languages (including Austrian), pinpoints where the real fraud lies.
BTW, how do you like that Mussolini look (chin up, way up) on BHO’s picture above?
WHAT THE HELL IS A ‘STUDENT LOAN’ PROVISION DOING IN A HEALTHCARE BILL?????
HIS CHIN IS UP TO KEEP FROM DROWNING IN THE CRAP HE HAS CREATED..
If we don’t act to ensure that this bill is repealed, the consequences that Dr. Hsieh eloquently details in this op-ed piece are inevitable. The political considerations that prevent doctors from offering quality care will become a reality. Health care is not right. Many, if not most people realize this. This can be reversed if a principled approach is taken.
Giving the CBO a tough math problem just doesn’t work. They can only count with their fingers.
Obituary…United States of America…Concieved July 4,1776…Born March 4,1789…Died March 21,2010…USA,as she was called,passed away, due to an onset of a deadly disease called socialism which spread rapidly, a disease whiched also killed many in Russia and Europe..Doctors had tried to stop the ailment but to no avail…The disease had infested the body very rapidily after Nov. 2009 and could not be stopped…She leaves behind a great legacy and a great people…Many around the world were saddened by her death,some saying”She has become like us!!!..Why???!!!!”…Others were filled with joy,saying,”A great DEVIL has gone to HELL where she belongs!!!”…Only one related child remains,Isreal,but also near death….
Insuring people with preexisting conditions and other such things in this bill wouldn’t be so bad if health insurers could charge people different premiums based on personal circumstances the way life insurers do.
We need to repeal this bill, and when we do I hope the GOP doesn’t shoot for ObamaCare-lite. What we desperately need are free market reforms that respect our individual rights. Only then will costs go down, quality go up and everyone will benefit.
Great Article, Paul!
and i dont care how, just needs to be removed.
@ #28 : The date of death was 11/04/08, and the cause of death was “cancer from the radical left,” a disease that went untreated since the 1960s.
Not one but four children are left orphans, pretty soon to die too: Taiwan, Israel, Colombia and Greece.
While I understand the concern about dishonest accounting analysis by the CBO to promote Obamacare, there are MAJOR Constitution-related tax problems with Obamacare that need to be addressed.
More specifically, the Founders made the 10th Amendment to reserve the lion’s share of government power to serve the people to the states, not the Oval Office and Congress. And given the Constitution’s silence about public healthcare, the 10th A. automatically reserves government power to regulate healthcare to the states, not the Oval Office and Congress.
In fact, the USSC has already decided that Congress has no business sticking its big nose into the medical practice.
“Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously beyond the power of Congress.” –-Linder v. United States, 1925.
And more importantly, Chief Justice Marshall had established the following case precedent, now wrongly ignored by both federal and state lawmakers, which appropriately prohibits Congress from laying taxes in the name of state power issues.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” –Chief Justice Marshall, GIBBONS V. OGDEN, 1824.
So not only is Obamacare constitutionally unauthorized, as evidenced by the Constitution’s silence about public healthcare, but corrupt Congress doesn’t have the power to lay taxes for Obamacare anyway.
So even if CBO was honest about Obamacare numbers, it remains that Obamacare is just another example of corrupt Congress wrongly usurping state powers and state taxes associated with those powers. (Are you listening bankrupt California?)
What a mess! :^(
The bottom line is that voters have big messes to clean up in both federal and state legislatures for this years midterm elections.
Ah, yes, these “mid-term elections” to magically clean things up (personally, I’m waiting for December – when Santa comes to town).
Meantime, refresh your memory on my famous daddy, K. K. Sr. See how that worked well for Imperial China; but what the heck, they got the Forbidden City. Ready for a new Capital in DC? With mosques and the like?
I’m looking forward to the new health care system, just like Kublai Khan Sr offered the Chinese – under the mongolian tents, with horses and all.
This is a prime example of the fact that you cannot escape or legislate away the laws of cause and effect.
If you take security from one place, by means of forcing policy on the public, it has to come out of somewhere else. In exchange for an illusory security blanket of coverage we will have less care, lower quality care, and will continue to crush the industry under the burden of government injustice.
Only free individuals can, and desire to, create the solutions we need.
Look at the markets that have low prices, innovation, variety, and market vibrancy, such as home computers. What is distinctive about this market? It is largely free.
Look at markets that are stagnant, expensive, and wracked by crisis (auto, banking, health care). They are highly regulated.
This bill is a disaster from top to bottom, and was the exact wrong direction for this country.
Americans are in store for many surprises once this 2500+ page
health care stink bomb has been fully evaluated. No bill, even
one that is well intentioned, which this one certainly is not,
can be coherent at this size, especially since no one who voted
yes actually read the bill. Combing thru this bill should
give Republicans an enormous amount of ammunition in their
ongoing health care battles with Democrats.
Republicans should make sure the American public becomes
intimately aware of every onerous regulation in this legislation.
Make the Democrats defend each statute they have concocted
until they choke on it. For example, there aren’t many
Americans who support government rationing of care, yet
the two provisions cited by the author specifically endorse
rationing. There is no other way to read them. Bundling
of payments and penalizing doctors for too many referrals
will actively encourage doctors NOT to treat patients. Not
even Obama’s teleprompter can sell that.
Democrats are delusional if they think they have won a
definitive victory. Conservatives can make Democrats rue
the day they ever heard of Obamacare.
Great article Dr. Hsieh,
As a current medical student; I find myself reading this article and wondering whether I would rather be a primary care doc being coerced not to send patients to specialists, or a specialist who won’t get any referrals from primary care.
I would also like to share one popular idiotic statement made by many of my colleagues recently- “Well it was better than doing nothing.”
This makes me want to rip my skin off. Finally I asked one of my peers that said this to me; “If tomorrow when we arrived at the hospital and we saw that it was on fire, would it be a good idea to pour gasoline on the building in order to ‘do something’?” I received a blank stare…
It is somewhat relieving to be able to read Dr. Hsieh’s articles because “out here” most people just don’t get it.
This is what will happen with the US health care. It will be tranformed into one giant HMO. Now some of you may have had pleasant experiences with these organizations. I have been in medicine for 40 years and never seen one that offered acceptable care.
What they are going to do will be bundled under preventive care. That means that everyone will have to go to their family physician, likely it will be a requirement. This is why the Family Physicians were supporting the bill. If you have a heart problem and usually go to your cardiologist, that will be out. You can only go if the family doctor sees you first. There are financial incentives in the bill to discourage the doctors from making referrals.
Now you may say that this is acceptable. But consider this, family doctors are the least trained and generally less intelligent of the docs on the tree. They have been striving for relevance for the last 30 years. Going to your cardiologist would assure the absolutely best assessment of your problem. But it may lead to testing, and testing cost money and they don’t want to spend money. For the average individual with a serious heart problem, the delay in getting to a cardiologist will assure less expenditure of funds as you stand a good chance of dying in the mean time. This is built into the formula in countries like Canada and accounts for their long waiting times for care (years).
I try to assure everyone that we are at war. Our enemy is our own government. They have pushed through law that few want and will assure the significant lose of our freedom. We need to stop the debate and begin looking for a leader that can articulate these concerns. That way we can try and take back the government.
Please pragmatist stop writing as it was you that told us that if health care reform passed the government would take over our health care. Well, I have a letter from my insurance company and my insurance company is still in business. So please stop with your vacuous nonsense, please please. as you have done above…
Poor Citizen:
“I think Health Care reform is already the Law so debating health care reform for the next ten years…is rather redundant.”
The Dred Scott decision was also law. Would you have been against the Civil War? Because, after all, once something is settled law any further discussion is redundant.
You are a fool.
There are many ways to tweak the health care cost curve (tort reform, permitting insurance providers to compete nation-wide are just two), but there are only two ways to actually bend that curve. One is the rationing and denial of service combined with subsistence-level payments for providers which is the way ObamaCare will go. The other is to remove the middlemen and make individuals responsible for their own health care and insurance choices and their own healthy/unhealthy behavior.
Employer-provided (and controlled) coverage is one of the largest contributing factors to the situation in which we find ourselves today. While it may have made some sense during WWII when wage/price controls were in effect, it makes none in a marketplace where wages and prices are in constant flux. As we know, employer-provided coverage is generally one-size-fits-all, under-insuring some but over-insuring most, and is not portable. But, more importantly, it removes the individual from the decision-making process and transfers the responsibility for making intelligent, informed choices to third parties.
Throughout my working life, I received health insurance at no, or nominal, cost to me. While I always considered myself a responsible consumer of health care services (and still do), I have known through the years any number of people for whom the same can not be said. Want to contain costs? Then everyone, everyone, needs to have skin in the game. People who have HSAs or participate in market-based-health-care plans have a far different mindset from those whose insurance and care is provided for by third parties.
The other middleman that must be removed to the extent possible is government. Research any segment of the economy bedeviled by rising costs and/or supply/demand problems and chances are excellent you’ll find governmental meddling at the bottom of it. Cost of food too high and getting higher? Get government out of the agriculture and biomass subsidy business. How about those college tuitions? Well, as long as government continues to pour billions into scholarships, grants and loans, tuition will remain artificially high and keep climbing and universities will continue to waste resources on pc programs of dubious value like race/ethnic/gender “studies.” Cost of energy too high? Look no farther than government regulating and taxing certain segments of the industry out of the picture while infusing other less efficient and more costly segments with huge pots of public money. And need I even bring up the housing industry? Well, health care is no different.
The Medicare program as designed was not a bad idea, it was a terrible idea. It was, as we’re finding out, wholly unsustainable. It’s bad enough that working men and women (and their employers), who have families to raise, children to educate and their own retirements to plan for, are expected to provide health care for non-producing retirees. It’s even worse that those retirees, regardless of circumstance, have been conditioned to expect high quality care on demand at minimal personal cost. They (and “they” will be “I” in less than a year) have no skin in the game. My own dear mother announced a while ago that in future when she needs to visit the emergency room, she will call an ambulance (instead of me) so that she won’t have to spend time in the waiting room. Sure, why not? Won’t cost her anything (never mind the morality of taking an ER bed away from someone with a more acute problem who is cooling his heels in the waiting room). Not only must Medicare be re-thought and re-designed (and designed away from being an out-and-out entitlement), but we must change the ways in which we provide care for the indigent (and, perhaps, how we define “indigent”). Granted, that’s a trickier problem because they by definition don’t have any skin to put in, but there’s got to be a better way than the Medicaid system we have now.
So, in short (ha ha), it boils down to: What do you want? Bureaucrat-controlled, budget-busting, rationed, sub-standard care, shortages, wait lists, a slow-down in innovation, confiscatory taxes, debt as far as the eye can see and a mindset that health care is a right, an entitlement, to be paid for by some vague “other”? Or do you want to take responsibility for yourself and your family understanding that there is no more expensive health care in the world than the kind we’ll get for “free”? Obama, Pelosi, Reid and most of the rest of the Democrats in Congress have chosen the former for us. And if we let it stand, we will become no better than chattel, their chattel.
#1 wrote;
“However, our elected officials may take some new issues up over the next few years”
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Finally, you’re right about something!
I can’t wait for November… can you?
Poor Citizen is clearly of limited intelligence. I will explain it to you.
Your insurance company will soon be an agent of the government and only provide services that government allows. It will not be able to offer you either a cheaper policy that covers less or a premium policy that covers more.
This is how Fascism operates. It doesn’t nationalize industry, it nationalizes the people, i.e,. you and me. Like 1933-45 Germany and 1921-1943 Italy there will be the surviving insurance companies with private names but they will all be controlled by the government.
I agree with many conservatives that at heart Obama is a Communist but with the fall of the Soviet Union nobody except a few academics remain operationally faithful to the myth of Das Kapital. Instead they have come to accept Mussolini’s model of collectivism for the practical purpose of governing. As China’s President Hu Jintao would say they have come to see that you must adapt Socialism to local conditions. I guess Mussolini would say that Fascism is the form Socialism takes when you account for national social-cultural dynamics.
Fascism is not opposition to Socialism as poor citizen would have you believe. It is Socialism properly understood.
33. B. Johnson: “More specifically, the Founders made the 10th Amendment to reserve the lion’s share of government power to serve the people to the states, not the Oval Office and Congress”
What makes anybody think the SCOTUS cares about the actual written constitution. The supreme court judges are political appointees. It’s a nice idea in concept to have a constitution as a framework that sets the limits to what a government can do. But if a law is not enforced, it’s not worth the paper it’s written on. The constitution is not enforced. That’s just reality. Therefore the US is de facto a country without a constitution. What the US has instead, is a set of rulings based on the political mojority of the SCOTUS at the time. Obama the constitutional law professor knows this. As does everybody else. That’s why it’s such a big deal, every time a new judge is being appointed. People know the judges vote politically. They vote politically and explain the rulings so it sounds like it’s constitutional. Hell if you look strictly at the wording in the constitution, there shouldn’t even be an FBI. Obama is not challenging the constitution, he’s merely challenging a tradition. Which is much less of a big deal.
#40 Shhhhhh …. Don’t let him in the secret.
Poor citizen,
I actually agree with you!! Lets stop debating this and do something to over throw our government so we can get our freedom back. The time for debate is over. We need action. We need civil disobedence or any other form of active dissent that can role back not only this law but all the other rules and regulations and taxes for which we are afflicted.
Thanks for another great article Paul.
I wish in his original editorial, Dr. Wolf had pointed out that with the 10% rule, 10% of doctors will be penalized, no matter what they do (that being the nature of statistics).
Conversely, in today’s politics, I wouldn’t mind seeing a similar rule which automatically kicked out of office the top 10% of politicians as measured by the number of new laws they propose.
“covert rationing” …. Palin’s terminology is more precise, “death panel”?
How do we realistically deal with Obamacare…. I say via civil disobedience.
Anne #24
The students of our nation are being hoodwinked as well. Screwed, played, ripped off. Interest has gone from 2-3% in the private market to almost 7% . Obama is using students to help pay for heath care. I guess staying on Mom and Dad’s health plan til you are almost 30 is not going to be “free” after all
Anne #24
Our young people are being hoodwinked,had, played, ripped off as well. The days of getting a student loan through a private bank at a 2-3% interest rate are gone. Obama is the only game in town now and he is charging 7% for student loans and the competition is gone. Using college students to pay for heath care. I guess staying on Mom’s insurance until you are almost 30 is not going to be “free” after all. These kids who voted for him are going to realize fast that getting into bed with the devil has it’s price
The constitution in Washington seems to be
“we the congress, not you the people”
44. Well, the Roberts court did overturn the DC gun ban, and Roberts did berate the concept of stare decisis.
“Hence, under ObamaCare the federal government also plans on cutting Medicare spending through measures that don’t overtly force doctors to lose money. Although these measures will be portrayed as steps to improve “quality” and “cost effectiveness,” they will in fact have the opposite effects of reducing quality of care and leading to de facto rationing.”
It looks like Death Panels are on the way.
Hey, Democrats will “save money” by cutting the budget and declaring “You can’t make an omlette without breaking a few eggs” (Joe Staliin) when people die from that.
We don’t need no stinking Constitution, we just need the Commerce Clause!
53. myth buster: “Well, the Roberts court did overturn the DC gun ban, and Roberts did berate the concept of stare decisis.”
A glimmer of hope.
I guess the system worked back when senators were chosen by state legislature. It seems that when senators started to be elected directly, there was a power shift towards Washington. Senators no longer had any direct incentive to protect the states against the federal government. By confirming judges that are biased towards the federal government senators increase their own power. They share that common interest with the president. How convenient that the president appoints the judges and the Senate confirms them.
Dr, Hsieh,
Thank you for this article. one of the most frustrating aspects of this battle against Obama’s socialized medicine is his ability to straight into the camera, make misleading and blatantly false claims, and then not be called on it by the MSM.
Keep up the good work–and thank you to PJMedia for providing a forum to educate the public.
B. Haynes, MD
Judge Napolitano stated recently the Supreme Court will throw out much of the HCR Bill, but will have to wait until 2018 to do so (when most of the unconstituional items in effect). Great…Maybe this Supreme Court would, but by 2018, if B.O. wins in 2012, the Supreme Court will consist of Clinton, Franken, Jones, Emanual, Axelrod, etc. 2010 will be all about getting the facts out, unfortunately their is about $500,000,000.00 sitting in the 2010 “Stimulus” election fund to prevent this from happening.
Well done, SukieTawdry. I have noticed my “Medicare neighbors” frequentlng their docs for the slightest sniffle, demanding antibiotics (dangerous) and totally misunderstanding the directions for their scripts. One recent retiree does admit it’s simply because he’s bored and the PA is “really a looker”. My 95-year-old neighbor insists on a mammogram every year. I’ve been driving her to appointments not realizing the purpose until last year. I refused to do so this year when I found out there is no history in her family, but she now thinks she needs an MRI since she’s heard on some TV program that they are more reliable.
And this government interference does extend to all other so-called subsidies. They set up a false economy that doesn’t help those who receive the boon and harms those who supposedly benefit. Note the cane sugar industry. Don’t these Congresspeople see what they are doing to this country? Besides term limits, we should remove the open-ended credit card to healthcare and pensions our government employees AND their families enjoy. Heaven knows they make millions when they retire to become speakers, advisors and lobbyists.
The Republicans are trying, unsuccessfully, to remove the excise tax on medical devices for veterans, the disabled and children. Frankly, having had a friend whose legs were blown off in Vietnam, this is appalling.
Thanks, Dr. Hsieh, for another insight into the false economies of socialized medicine. I agree with silence do good’s implicit premise: it’s the immorality of the government trafficking in human lives (albeit in a more understated way now) that is so repugnant. The idea that the government may just reach into everyone’s wallet, help themselves to privately earned wealth and re-distribute it to all voters in politically connected groups is utterly immoral. Also immoral is the idea that freedom is passé, that individuals will not be allowed to plan their respective lives, retain control over the wealth they spend on medicine, choose doctors and treatment based on their own judgment but will have those “resources” taken and redistributed by the government. It’s immoral because there is no political freedom without economic freedom, and partial political and economic freedom is just a marker on the road to total tyranny.
That no one may opt out of it, which is the entire point of this Bill, is utterly coercive. This Healthcare Bill is not about our health or living longer. If those in government understood such a concept, let alone accepted it, they would get out of medicine completely and unconditionally, with lightening speed.
Well said, Dr Hsieh. You are exactly right: the budget fraud–while frustrating–is small potatoes compared to the dishonesty with which rationing is implemented in this bill.
This aspect of the bill strikes at the very heart of the physician-patient relationship and will be a dagger in the heart of American medicine if not repealed.
Truly said patients should be treated depending on their sickness and not on any other factor.
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