The Racist Assumptions of Boxer and Obama
Obama, in the meantime, felt that black parents needed his lecture on parenting. Using his white mother as an example, he told them to see to it that their children do their homework. Yet, he repeated the progressive refrain that discrimination still exists: it is felt “by African-American women paid less for doing the same work as colleagues of a different color and gender. By Latinos made to feel unwelcome in their own country. By Muslim Americans viewed with suspicion for simply kneeling down to pray. By our gay brothers and sisters, still taunted, still attacked, still denied their rights.”
Obama must have felt comfortable bringing up the issue of gay rights, for the NAACP has greatly deviated from its original charter: the larger goal of eliminating racial discrimination and the immediate goal of ending the lynching of black men. The organization that had resisted efforts of communists to alternately infiltrate and destroy the organization from the 1920s through the 1940s has become a front group for “progressives,” taking on their causes like “climate change.”
Obama also used the occasion to tout larger progressive goals, specifically, his administration’s efforts in health care, job creation, clean energy, and “consumer protections.” As he lectured on parental responsibility, he at the same time touted government early childhood education programs. Again, following the progressive promotion of government power, Obama displayed blindness to the causes for our current situation “more than a half century after Brown v. Board of Education,” as “African-American students lag behind white students.” Of course, Obama did not mention that black Americans, in spite of prejudice and hardship, were quite capable of raising their families and educating their children on their own — before the Great Society programs. In his book Black Rednecks and White Liberals, Thomas Sowell notes that in the days before Brown v. Board of Education, black public schools in Washington, D.C., and Harlem matched or exceeded the performance of similar white schools. But that was before white radicals set out to “smash monogamy” and promoted thuggery as something authentically black — and in the process undermined the black family, community, and church.
Although I’m not black but an immigrant from Slovenia, I’ve felt the condescension of progressives. When I was in graduate school many assumed I would be writing my thesis and dissertation on a female writer or on some topic pertaining to “women’s issues” — predetermined by progressives, of course, with a pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-government stance. It was assumed by progressive colleagues that I would not want to delve into the larger philosophical, historical, and theological issues of literature written by men.
Similarly, Boxer seemed surprised that Alford would not agree with her assessment of what is good for him and the black community. So Alford had every right to be angry. Like the academics who create departments for minority students, Boxer was relegating this black man to the ghetto of racial issues, which by white progressives’ definitions cannot include any of the aspects of the American Dream, like freedom, self-initiative, and responsibility. Boxer might be surprised that there are others who do not desire her “help” — like Frances Rice of the National Black Republican Association, Apostle Claver of Raging Elephants, and Kevin Jackson, who pegged Boxer on his blog, The Black Sphere.
As someone who speaks with no accent and is not immediately identified as an immigrant, I have observed progressives from both sides: first from the patronizing angle when I accompanied my mother to clean their houses, and then later in the workplace and academy when, assuming I was one of them, they spoke openly. Their assumptions about blacks and other “minorities” were not very respectful and sometimes diverged into outright slurs.
The group that Obama addressed has already deviated from its original purpose so much that its members could no longer discern his doublespeak. Barbara Boxer unwittingly spoke as she would at a cocktail party of white California progressives and was embarrassed at being caught in her racist assumptions by the black man who asserted his American right to not be defined and pegged by her and her ilk.
“Boxer was telling Alford that he was not smart enough to study the issues and make his own decisions.”
The very concept of affirmative action is inherently racist. It minimally on a subconscious level asserts that black and brown skinned minorities may compete effectively in the sports arena—but not anything requiring intellectual abilities. Needless to add, yellow skinned minorities are not included. They are too successful and therefore deemed not real minorities. Affirmative action grading in the liberal arts disciplines has now been going on for at least the last forty-five years. This has effectively resulted in the so-called protected minorities adopting passive and anti-intellectual attitudes. White liberals may have meant well. We can have that debate at another time. Nonetheless, they have inadvertently turned out to be the worst enemies to black and brown skinned minorities since the Ku Klux Klan.
“…She also used the racist strategy of pitting one black group against another…”
Didn’t Obama just do the same thing by attempting to pit one (thankfully small) Jewish minority of Jews against another by inviting exclusively ant-Zionist Jews to the White House to discuss Mid-East policy? If Boxer is a racist, does it not follow that Obama an anti-Semite?
Poor Babs;she tried to run her racial dog and pony show with one of the “uppity” blacks who have left the plantation and decided to work for something other than governmental largesse.Its unfortunate that more African-Americans are not smart enough to realize the level of contempt liberals really have for them.They are kept ill-educated and unmotivated so they can be easily led by a few Judas goats who speak in language they do not understand.And we all know what happens to the sheep who follow that goat.
All I can say about the Boxer situation is to watch the video of her using the NAACP document to try and “slap down” a black man. I think democrats are evil personified and even I was embarrassed for her. No wonder the Huffington Post had to cover for her. It was a very LOW day for not only Ms. Boxer personally but for democrats in general.
We all are racist.
Or maybe some more than others.
Another example of a black business man having more knowledge of the economy than a white spoiled democrat brat.
When the democrats piss off the Blacks and the Hispanics their only voters left will be the hundreds of millions of Muslims Obama gave us in his speech.
We’re going to see raw racism as this country hasn’t see it in a century,eminating from the Oval Office. The only places that racists like Barack Obama can be found are in slums or professoring in college or among the lib-left politicians who make it into law and multiculturalist who teach it.
Whites and blacks,all of us of whatever color,should follow Alford’s example and think for ourselves and be angry.
What I want to know is why more public connections aren’t being made between the “Progressives” of today and their ideological ancestors? The “Progressives” of yesteryear advocated purifying the gene pool by force if necessary. Hitler was a “Progressive” of his time who took the philosophy to its logical conclusion.
Vivo:
What exactly does your statement mean? We are all racist? What exactly is the empirical evidence for that one?
I guess I better go confess to my wife and kids.
We are not all racist.
Alford would be a great person to have as a neighbour …Boxer would not. I am would vote her off the island .
It’s astonishing that the dhimmis cannot realize how obvious it is that they are the ones who keep bringing up race and insisting on it as a reference point.
Kind of scary, too, becauase it’s far more dangerous going up against an wino armed with a pocket knife than an oldtime member of the Mafia armed with the best weapons money could buy.
I suggest checking out my blog on this subject. The black conservative view is a good one! http://theblacksphere.net/site/boxer-vs-uppity-negro/
The racism is starting to bother me.
We were southern democrats growing up and believe it or not I am still a registered ‘conservative’ democrat.
My sister marched with the NAACP back in 1968 in order to protect black voting rights.
In just 6 short months we have seen Obama and Liberal democrats destroy racial harmony with their class warfare.
Some of our (middle class)- out of work- black neighbors children are refusing to go back to middle school.
If you think this racial crap is bad for white and black adults go to one of your local public schools and hear the comments and watch the fights.
Obama and his Liberal democrats are destroying the advances and peace made by black people over the last 50 years.
His momma has to be proud!
Well, finally, after all these years, the Dems are being exposed for the racists that they are. They have made it seem like it’s just the Republicans, but, in my experience as a black woman who travels around the country, neither party has a lock on racism. I feel more comfortable traveling down south than I do in some parts of New England.
As for Obama, I get tired of this need he feels to lecture to the black community every chance he gets about what poor parents we are. And, then he gets a standing ovation and praised by whites for giving such a “brilliant” speech? You never see him lecturing whites about feeding fried chicken to their kids for breakfast, as he did last year to a black audience during the campaign. How is this not racist?
10. Stephen wrote to vivo:
What exactly does your statement mean? We are all racist? What exactly is the empirical evidence for that one?
Peter explains: What it means is vivo, in all his living in his parent’s basement glory, is projecting his own attitudes and belief on everyone around him again and, as is often suggested on PJM, he should just be ignored so he can quietly slink away as usual.
5. vivo:
“We all are racist.”
How progressive of you to say so. When there is no cogent reasonable argument available to support an obnoxious twit like Boxer why not drag out a meaningless mantra and pretend it’s remotely relevant.
All together now…..”War is not the answer”, “Give peace a chance”, blah blah blah blah
Pistolpetestoys: “Its unfortunate that more African-Americans are not smart enough to realize the level of contempt liberals really have for them.”
ingo!!Not only are they not smart enough due to inner city public education’s agenda driven by Dems, but most of the smart ones are so inculcated with the progressive message that they are truly the uncle Toms of the black community.
Furthermore, the progressive MSM does not make an issue of dramas like this on purpose. If a GOP senator had done this, it would have been immediately all over the news and cycled for a week. Dems are always given free passage for acting or speaking racist to their most loyal constituency.
“Similarly, Boxer seemed surprised that Alford would not agree with her assessment of what is good for him and the black community.”
This sentence by the author sums it up perfectly regarding how the progressive white pols look at the black community. And yet blacks vote Dem. Go figure??
#3 pistolpetestoys:
Quote/ Its unfortunate that more African-Americans are not smart enough to realize the level of contempt liberals really have for them.
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Oh, they are smart enough. But brainwashed. And in denial.
They (like all humans) make rationalizations to justify nihilistic, corrupt and immoral behavior from members of their own tribe/clan/in-group.
Conservatives have done a poor job communicating to them because they get stuck on the pigment issue. Yet there is a large portion of the black community that abhors central control and knows it is evil.
It is sad the Dem party has degenerated into the party of racism and socialism. Boxer’s attitude would have ticked me off too. She spoke to Mr. Alford as if he was mentally challenged. Why do Dems feel they have the right to talk to anyone in a condescending manner? Talk about eyes wide shut…….
Was anyone else offended by Boxer snapping “You don’t know when I came,” at Alford’s assertion that he was in California when she came. Was I the only one who took that to mean she thought he was stupid to read a bio?
I just wonder when the history books will tell the truth. That the Democrats for years kept the Black population from voting, by using every legal means possible, then when it helped them and they seen they had a block of people they could manipulate and ;make them think the Republicans are the bad guys, even though abraham lincholn (R) Martin luther king jr (R) Pro life too….so why do African Americans choose to follow a president tht looks down on them as though they are automatically undereducated and have to have someone else tell them what to do. I went to a racially diverse school we all got the same shot! Some of us chose to make the best of it and others chose to sit in the back of the room interupting class and making a$$es out of themselves, needless to say the ones tht did nothing went nowhere the ones that applied themselves went somewhere, Color had nothing to do withit, thier willingness to apply themselves did.
Parents need to look and see where their priorities are when it comes to thier children, I watch them yell and scream at how bad the teachers and admins are right before they dump the kids off on someone else and go out clubbin, then wonder why they raised a child that thinks having a good time is more important than getting agood education.
The african american population needs to wake up look at the issue and stop looking at the color of skin, we ALL DO color means nothing, what we have learned and how we conduct and apply ourselves to better our society is what is important.
Be nice to Babs–her husband bought her that Senate seat fair and square–just because she is a fool and a tool and elitist jerk doesn’t mean she isn’t important.
Blacks should be PROUD Her Importantness mentioned them. Really.
“Its unfortunate that more African-Americans are not smart enough to realize the level of contempt liberals really have for them.They are kept ill-educated and unmotivated”
“Not only are they not smart enough due to inner city public education’s agenda driven by Dems, but most of the smart ones are so inculcated with the progressive message that they are truly the uncle Toms of the black community”
Is it not also showing contempt to assume a large portion of a race are naive, ill-educated and unmotivated, just because their vote is different from yours? This kind of talk is pretty demeaning, don’t you think?
Why not presume that most blacks and minorities vote for their immediate self-interest, just like most white people – which may include considerations that are not on a white person’s list. Others will vote out of habit- meaning their family always voted Dem so they continue the tradition- again just like many white people. Good reasons, bad reasons, but they have reasons for the way they vote.
The key to a successful dialogue is mutual respect; something that is lost in today’s political discourse. If conservatives want to attract the minority vote, find out why they vote as they do, instead of assuming it is because minorities are mentally deficient and/or lazy. Then address those reasons. Simply saying, “vote for me or your stupid” is not a compelling platform, in my opinion.
21. myanna:
I am offended and shamed that Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi call themselves Democrats.
Republicans would have had more sense.
I tell my Conservative Democrat friends I can not follow party lines as long as these ‘dusty’ old ladies remain in office.
I guess Will Rogers said it best:
“A fool and his/her money are soon elected.”
“I am not a member of any organized political party-
I’m a Democrat.”
Frankly, I don’t give a crap about blacks. I care about whites, my people. Which makes me a racist, just like Zero. With one difference. I’m a private citizen. I can’t do squat. He’s the president, supposedly of ALL the people. He can do huge damage to whites and wants to do huge damage to whites and is doing huge damage to whites. And that’s the truth. Even if a racist says it.
Night Owl: Okay here is further evidence of progressives patronizing blacks:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/07/racial_preferences_in_the_demo_1.html
“Is it not also showing contempt to assume a large portion of a race are naive, ill-educated and unmotivated, just because their vote is different from yours? This kind of talk is pretty demeaning, don’t you think?”
Okay prove to me I’m wrong in my assertions? Prove to me that progressives have helped the black community since say 1964? What are you going to use, affirmative action? welfare? Both are miserable failures but yet blacks continue to view progressives as their only means of government largesse.
“Why not presume that most blacks and minorities vote for their immediate self-interest, just like most white people – which may include considerations that are not on a white person’s list.”
I do allow that they vote in their self interest but at some point they must see that they are not getting the best bang for the buck. When inner cities are war zones and drug infested; when the black community is in its third generation of welfare addiction; when there is a 70% illegitimace rate among them; where the dropout rate is 50%, and on and on, they must get the idea that progressives have sold them into slavery for their votes.
“If conservatives want to attract the minority vote, find out why they vote as they do, instead of assuming it is because minorities are mentally deficient and/or lazy.”
I don’t care about getting the minority vote. Politics is not based on identity politics-except for progressives; voting and a representative government is about what is good for AMERICA. Too bad you don’t realize this or you too have become just as brainwashed(dead) as black America. Okay and tell me, how to describe the black woman in Florida who asked for a home and car from Obama? Is that not the definition of either “mentally deficient/lazy”?
What a lying sack of crap Botox Babs is.
At about 5:40 into the famous dust-up clip with Mr Alford, Boxer makes this assertion, “Let me say — as someone who is married to a veteran..”
Well, not only is Boxer a condescending, patronizing ignoramus, she is a bloody liar. From her Wikipedia bio we see that her spouse never came close to the military unless he walked past a recruiting office on the way to his cushy, appointed laywer’s job:
“Boxer’s husband, Stewart, is a prominent attorney in Oakland, who specializes in worker’s compensation cases (on the side of injured workers) and is known for keeping a very low profile when it comes to politics. Many cases are referred to him by labor unions, including the Teamsters. In 2006, the Boxers sold their house in Greenbrae, where they had lived for many years, and moved to Oakland”
I think you’re giving Boxer way too much credit for intelligence. I don’t think she’s smart enough to comprehend that what she said and did is wrong in any way.
i was waiting for her to call him boy, and i was waiting for him to tell her straight up stfu. it does seem that the gloves are coming off and true beliefs are coming out.the black community has had 50 years to get after the American dream, i don’t know if it has been totally unhindered, but i’d say those that wanted it went out and worked for it. affirmitive action may have primed the pump, it might be a hinderance now. most groups/ideas start out with the right intention and then grow/ morph or get co-opted into something else.
night owl i agree that most people vote for their immediate needs.
Certainly the comments quoted were ill-advised. Having said that, many Jews openly question the intelligence of their own people for being yellowdog democrats. It’s a clumsy way of suggesting that maybe they’re not pursuing their best interest.
And the education issue is legitimate, unless you’re suggesting that everything’s just dandy with the K-12 education that Blacks are receiving. Beyond that, there’s a legitimate question regarding the political education that all are receiving; whether it’s balanced, or ideological, and thus helping to perpetuate a political system.
One thing is beyond question, and that is that any group who supports one party by huge percentages will be ignored (or patronized) by both parties.
ric pic i care what happens to Americans because when it happens to THEM, it also happens to me.
Do not be envious of evil men, Nor desire to be with them; For their heart devises violence, And their lips talk of troublemaking.
Through wisdom a house is built, And by understanding it is established; By knowledge the rooms are filled With all precious and pleasant riches.
A wise man is strong,Yes, a man of knowledge increases strength; For by wise counsel you will wage your own war, And in a multitude of counselors there is safety.
Wisdom is too lofty for a fool; He does not open his mouth in the gate.
He who plots to do evil Will be called a schemer. The devising of foolishness is sin, And the scoffer is an abomination to men.
[Proverbs 24:1-9]
These things also belong to the wise: It is not good to show partiality in judgment. [Proverbs 24:23]
A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold In settings of silver. Like an earring of gold and an ornament of fine gold Is a wise rebuker to an obedient ear. [Proverbs 25:11-12]
Much as it pains me to defend a sack of —- like Boxer, I don’t see that she’s the blatant racist here. Consider Mr. Alford. He appears on behalf of an organization called the National Black Chamber of Commerce. The adjective “black” is entirely spurious – it has nothing to do with commerce. But it puts Mr. Alford in a box with the label “black” on it. Boxer didn’t put him in that box – he did it himself. We might guess that he hoped to gain some advantage from that positioning. Instead Boxer rather deftly turned his position in his “black” box against him, by demonstrating that he wasn’t in a very “black” position after all, despite the prominent label on his box. Had he appeared on behalf of an organization devoted to “commerce,” or even “national commerce,” he would not have been so pathetically vulnerable to such an attack.
So basically, Boxer hoist Alford on his own petard, and he reacted by getting testy and then trying to use that ol’ race card yet again, even though it had just failed him.
Personally, I wish they’d both go away. I personally have no use for racists, white OR black.
Kudos to Mr. Alford for speaking out against the ‘liberal racism’ of multiculturalism and identity politics as practiced by our elites.
Senator Boxer married to a veteran? That’s a hoot! I wonder if she knows what “veteran” means in this country. And who the heck are the “100 Black Men of Atlanta” anyway!?!?
“I don’t have an affinity for the great Urdu poets, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.”
#5 Vivo:
We are all racist? Really? So everyone thinks that certain racial groups are superior or inferior to other racial groups?
I call bullshit.
I’ve noticed that every time Obama’s poll numbers dip, he starts lecturing the African Americans on their allegedly poor parenting skills. Good grief! Why do they always give him a standing ovation and encouragwe him?
It’s past time for the country to be rid of the California liberals in Congress. They are nothing but thugs. Join the growing chorus to impeach Nancy Pelosi, Boarbara Boxer and Henry Waxman!
Harry Alford is his own man… he doesn’t need Barbara Boxer or anyone else condescending to him.
The black/white schism…. Never will be bridged.
39, blow it out your butt, moby.
34, you’re confusing the man and the organization. There have been some very good local chapter leaders from the NAACP and even NOW over the years. Do I think less of Tammy Bruce, for example, because she was once a NOW chapter leader? No. The question that you ask about the legitimacy of the mission of the NBCP doesn’t reduce Mr. Alford in any way.
Now pay attention to the conduct of the people in the video. Focus.
Here’s Bab’s email contact info:
http://boxer.senate.gov/contact/email/policy.
Though make sure you annotate a CA address (here’s the address to the S.F. District office:
455 Golden Gate Avenue
Suite 14000
San Francisco, CA 94102) or you get the following response:
She’s ‘Too busy’ with in-state manners to address your concern. That’s rich. Hillary Clinton had the EXACT RESPONSE when I emailed concerns when she was running for the Demo ticket! She’s too busy for out of state matters, when she’s running for Pres. nominee?
Intelligence is limited. Stupidity is infinite..
Its pretty sad you know…a war was fought that ended legalized slavery in the U.S. and lead to vastly expanded Federal control over the States. Over 360,000 men lost their lives fighting for the Union, and that doesn’t include the wounded who recovered or were crippled for life. White men comprised 320,000 of those losses. American white’s have paid the price for America’s participation in legalized slavery in blood, sweat, tears, and treasure generations ago. The Democrats passed Jim Crow laws out of hatred and bitterness for black Americans and it took the Civil Rights movement lead by MLK Jr. (a Republican) to end segregation. I doubt a more tragic fiasco has occurred in American history than the years following the end of segregation up to present day.
Education of both races took a terrible blow as academic standards were consistently redefined to allow those who could not meet the requirements access to education and degrees they did not qualify for. If they did not truly qualify then assistance should have been provided to make sure they meet the standards at a later time, standards that had nothing to do with skin color, sex, religion, or age but rather academic, technical, or professional proficiency. Government Civil Service exam standards have been lowered as well to meet racial quotas. Black Americans sell themselves back into slavery for government largess and programs that in essence are racist and are designed to erode the self esteem, family, and community of black Americans.
The very idea of Affirmative Action says that anyone who is not a white make is inferior and unable to compete in this world on their own merits. Then you have the race hustlers like Sharpton, Jackson, Wright, and Farrakhan who are racists themselves and participate in the lies (“Those terrible conservative whites are keeping you down, but these white folk over here are OK…”) told by the “Progressive Left” who basically want a bloc of “slave voters” and the numbers show they own 95% of blacks and are working on another, the Hispanics.
Standards like laws are usually in place for a reason and they should be applied evenly and fairly without regard for one’s ethnicity. Its the content of one’s character that matters not the color of one’s skin, one’s genitalia, or one’s religion. The black and brown populace of America would be better off if they embraced personal responsibility, stopped trying to get mileage out of past injustices, and realize that the freedom to succeed or fail according to your own abilities is the greatest freedom of all.
“by demonstrating that he wasn’t in a very “black” position after all,”
Out of the mouths of babes…..
So, favoring free enterprise and entrepeneurship aren’t “black?” The only acceptable “black” positions are on the Left? Advocating advancing the fortunes of African-Americans through (gasp!) *commerce* isn’t really “black?” Thanks for making Ms Grabar’s point for her.
We are not all racist. Some of us, like Martin Luther King envisioned, judge a man or woman based on the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. If you are a black man who has a socialist agenda for our nation, and are bent on it’s destruction, you are bad in my book. If you are a man like Mr. Alford who not only works to promote entrepreneurship and the free market but has the courage to speak the truth and stand up to a tyrant like Barbra Boxer, you are my hero.
I don’t like Boxer and I thought what she did was outrageous. However it’s a laugh to see Pajamas Media trying to take some high road on this when racial assumptions around here are almost as adundant as dirt on the ground.
There’s a certain way to write an expository essay. First you let the audience know what you’re talking about by describing the scene in question. Next, you analyze the content using evidence garnered from other sources. Finally, you write a conclusion that brings all of your well-researched points home. I’m more than willing to believe that any number of Democrats are racist–and, of course, everyone is racist. Its only a question of degree and comfort–these two factors are in full glory throughout these electronic pages. Extreme racists so comfortable in their beliefs that they spend all of their time reflecting on the racists of others, while never examining that of their own assumptions.
If Democrats are racist, this muddling mess of electronic ink hasn’t proven it.
Is it not surprising that I didn’t bat an eye throughout this whole article? I’ve been pretty much saying ‘same-same’ as the author [Ms. Mary Grabar].
When the Lefties scream ‘Racist!’, they really need to hold up a mirror and look long and hard into it.
43. Scott,
I’ve been arguing that very point and I’m called a ‘racist’ for showing that Affirmative Action in and of itself *IS* racist.
Sometimes I feel like I’m running in circles here.
Remember the whole ‘Ebonics’ fiasco? Is that pathetic or what? Yes, black people, you are too stupid to learn to speak and enunciate proper English.
-And, then, you have the black people who think ‘speaking proper English’ is speaking ‘white’!!!
WTFFFFFFF? That’s how brain-washed some black people are. It’s effing SAD! Don’t even get me started on the whole ‘Uncle Tom’ crap sammich if a black person chooses to be a [Gawd Forbid] CONSERVATIVE.
UGH!
Mary Grabar, I’m also curious as to which publisher nominated your book for the Pushcart Prize. From the Puschart website:
Little magazine and small book press editors (print or online) may make up to six nominations from their year’s publications by our December 1, (postmark) deadline.
In the Olympics of faint praise, a pushcart nomination might be a bronze at best. You’re a fraud like the rest of the also-rans trying to keep their talentless heads above water here.
44 Bohemond,
I was never a fan of the “Black Medical Students Association” or the “National Association of Black Journalists” or other “Black” organizations that have ??? to do with excelling in medical school, journalism, or commerce. Why Black? Why did Harry Alford contribute to Michael Steele and Barack Obama both? He also contributed to William “Cold Cash” Jefferson. What do these men have in common? I am open to all answers to these questions.
I loved the smackdown, but I have a ways to go before I love Harry Alford.
pistolpetestoys (3):
They are smart enough, it’s just that Dems have courted them consciously for years with empty promises, whereas conservatives, most of whom see people as individuals instead of belonging to groups of colors, have treated minorities as they do their other constituents. This is a mistake – conservatives need to proactively explain to people who might not follow politics how free markets and meritocracy are color blind and how liberal policies have done the exact opposite of what they promised. A strong conservative leader needs to enunciate to minorities how many of them are more conservative than they think. For instance, most blacks I know are opposed to liberal social positions almost across the board and almost all have some level of spirituality. Blacks and other minorities need to be consciously courted by conservatives armed with the truth, which is that a truly color-blind society will never come out of liberal policies, which serve only to divide us and use race as a political bludgeon in place of honest debate.
That said it might be difficult to persuade some people to give up on their govt dependence (the ultimate goal, I think, of progressivism).
Ooh. Ad-hom. Somebody’s tinkled that his favorite box of rocks is being criticized.
Do not ignore the fact that Alford is VET. I believe she knew his pers history.I also believe she knew she would be referred to as Ma’m in her interview w/the US Officer & was ready to put him down publicly. I also feel there is a coming effort in this Admin to intimidate the Officer Corp of our military. I believe Napolitano has already begun this activity with her “radical GI” possibility. As a former GI 2 Tours I was trained to use my instincts.
Yes, my favorite box of rocks is clear writing created by smart incisive people. It really does bother me when I read this kind of sheer mendacious stupidity; artificially inflating one’s resume, also a pet-peeve, in case, you were wondering.
“Moho” — if you are going to select personal attacks as your weapon of choice, shouldn’t you un-sheath the sword, as it were, and reveal your own — name?
Blotto:
“Night Owl: Okay here is further evidence of progressives patronizing blacks: ”
I never said they didn’t.
“Okay prove to me I’m wrong in my assertions? Prove to me that progressives have helped the black community since say 1964?”
That’s a totally different issue. I would argue, and have argued on this very web-site, that progressive policies have hurt black and minority groups more than it helped them. If you assume I am some sort of “progressive”, you couldn’t be more wrong.
“I do allow that they vote in their self interest but at some point they must see that they are not getting the best bang for the buck”
How do you presume to know what they see? Not everybody looks at politics as some ideological struggle of good vs. evil. Many, maybe most, are pragmatic with their vote, and want their real, immediate problems addressed.
To a poor or middle-class black women with young kids and an absent husband, regardless of whether the cause of her plight is due to irresponsible behavior, poor choice in men, or the detrimental effects of progressive policies, the party that appears to offer polices addressing her problems is the one that makes sense to her. She is not out to save “her people” through her vote, just her kids.
I believe as more blacks and minorities rise in economic status, their voting pattern will more resemble whites. Middle and upper-middle class people care more about tax-cuts than welfare policies. (The well-to-do are a different breed. They will vote for liberal policies based on ideology, not immediate needs.) But that’s just my opinion. It could be wrong.
“I don’t care about getting the minority vote. ”
My comment was directed towards those that do care. There have been articles written about the subject on this site, so apparently some people find it worthy of discussion.
“Okay and tell me, how to describe the black woman in Florida who asked for a home and car from Obama? Is that not the definition of either “mentally deficient/lazy”?”
First- she’s doesn’t represent all black America to me. Second- She is a unique individual with her own set of problems. I wouldn’t presume to judge her.
Citing Moho at #50:
Notice when libs have nothing constructive to add to the conversation, they always turn to pointless insults?
Tina Trent. I don’t see the logic in that. In this case, we have a writer with a questionable resume and a poor grasp of writing. What that has to do with who I am, I can’t see. I’ve made no representations, false or otherwise, of my education or my accomplishments with which to bolster my badly considered opinions or piss-poor writing. On the other hand, this writer claims to have a doctorate and to be a “nominee” for a prestigious award.
I’m pointing out in the first case that her PhD has no bearing on her skills at elucidating her point. In the second case, she’s inflated her resume to make her nearly intelligible rants more palatable.
Why you have to know who I am to judge the merits of my argument, I’ll never know. But if it is the only defense you can make for this idiotic writing, then knock yourself out.
Isn’t there some way of separating california from the rest of the United States? I mean physically, like digging a huge deep ditch between Cali and every other state that borders it. Then we can be sure to keep the loonies within the boundaries of their own state. We can even have a “no fly zone” coming out of California so that any plane that enters the air space of the U.S. from Cali without authorization will be immediately shot down.
#51,
Why “Black”? Because in business, how to get ahead it’s not usually what you know, but who you know. Republicans with their free enterprise talk should know this. Black and other minority group associations in particular fields help people of a specific color or gender network and find opportunities in careers where they may be underrepresented. It’s no different than any of the other plethora of business associations out there, including the Good ole boy network. Which DOES indeed exist.
Any group of any race is unto itself…. racist
Just another case of pot & kettle.
Africa is a place not a race. No place is a race nor religion. Nor language for that matter.
Put that in your womp un peace pipe and smoke it.
Delia wrote in #49:
“Remember the whole ‘Ebonics’ fiasco? Is that pathetic or what? Yes, black people, you are too stupid to learn to speak and enunciate proper English.
-And, then, you have the black people who think ’speaking proper English’ is speaking ‘white’!!!
WTFFFFFFF? That’s how brain-washed some black people are. It’s effing SAD! Don’t even get me started on the whole ‘Uncle Tom’ crap sammich if a black person chooses to be a [Gawd Forbid] CONSERVATIVE.”
Yes I do remember the travesty of “Ebonics”, basically an attempt to lower standards once more and further ensure that black Americans, especially those that populate the urban centers, are too poorly educated to properly reason and consider Liberal/Democratic policies and the impacts thereof. Think Peggy Joseph. Its painful enough to try to read a bill with a decent education, how would a child taught that “Ebonics” is your language and you don’t really have to learn proper English fare when attempting to discern how such a bill might effect them and the nation.
The whole “Urban” or “Black” identity thing is really sad. The media, Hollywood, race hustlers, and Leftists would have you (and especially black Americans) believe that “Ghetto-ness” and “Thugishness”is what it is to be “Black” and that the only proper or “Black” way for a black person to raise their social station is through sports, rap music, or entertainment. Getting an education, speaking properly, not dressing like a prison thug, working hard, saving, and living within their means are all “selling out” or becoming an “Uncle Tom”. You notice the quick back peddle they are doing now that Obama is president? Think Joe Biden’s gaffe back before he became Obama’s VP. They still screw up and talk about what a “great role model” Obama is, as if an educated black man is like finding the Loch Ness monster or Big Foot. There are LOTS of professional, educated, intelligent black people out there and man of them are actually even better role models than Obama. Also who the hell appointed Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson “Leaders of the Black Community”? I bet if you asked Mr. Alford, and other black Americans like him, he’d say they didn’t represent him.
Finally, look a how Democrats treat minorities who’ve “gone off the plantation”, its disgusting, sad, and wrong. I wish more black Americans would wake up and heed the old warning…”Beware of Democrats bearing gifts”.
61, right. Free association means being able to do precisely that. Even if you accept for the sake of argument that there’s no discrimination anywhere (which is a bit naive), there’s still a good reason to form black business associations: mentoring and networking. There’s still much work to do in inculcating a culture of achievement success into a group with some serious socio-cultural dysfunctions.
Once we have second-generation black professionals getting proper mentoring, the need for such things will evaporate, and the organizations will go defunct. Until then, they’re filling a needed role. The alternative is affirmative action. I’d much rather see this handled privately.
Or, you can keep on pretending.
63. Scott,
Same page, Scott.
-And, the truly creepy thing is 0bama’s new ‘science Czar’:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/21/obamas-science-czar-considered-forced-abortions-sterilization-population-growth/comments/
Think about Supreme Court Ginsberg when she mentioned, “populations that we don’t want to have too many of”
http://jeannie-ology.com/?p=2535
Black people should be running to the Conservative movement in droves. -But, the dumbing down of our society [not just black people, but ALL Americans] has given us the resultant left-roids.
The ‘unwanted’ people might want to re-think their affiliation with Democrats. :\
As I understand it, Tammy Bruce left NOW because of their leftist agenda.
While I agree with both 61 and 64 that associations can be helpful in advancing businesses and causes, I still have problems when they must be called “Black Such-and-Such.” Can you imagine the outrage and protests (especially by those pantheons of justice Sharpton and Jackson) if I went and created the “White Military Contractor’s Association” or the “White Military Veterans Association”! I read an article a few months ago about the “Black Engineer of the Year Award” the Navy gave out and wondered how much outrage and protest there would be if the Navy DARED to even think of organizing a “White Engineer of the Year Award.” Why can’t they all just qualify to win an “Engineer of the Year” award? Why do the minorities feel they MUST be singled out but protest and complain when they are singled out?
strawman”Once we have second-generation black professionals getting proper mentoring, the need for such things will evaporate, and the organizations will go defunct. Until then, they’re filling a needed role. The alternative is affirmative action. I’d much rather see this handled privately.”
hell yeah.
showing spineless,gutless RINOS how it is done:
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.main&tp_preview=true&x=1626949
checkout the videos in “voices from the grassroots”.
Night Owl wrote in #57:
“I believe as more blacks and minorities rise in economic status, their voting pattern will more resemble whites. Middle and upper-middle class people care more about tax-cuts than welfare policies. (The well-to-do are a different breed. They will vote for liberal policies based on ideology, not immediate needs.) But that’s just my opinion. It could be wrong.”
You are.
You realize that 4 out of 6 black Americans are middle class? It goes back to the whole “Ghetto image” that the media, Hollywood, race pimps, and Democrats want everyone to believe. That 98% of all black Americans are poor, uneducated, gang bangers, baby mama drama havin’, disadvantaged, and constantly and unjustly harassed by racist police, government (who the usually neglect to mention is heavily Democrat), and devious ol’ Whitey is keepin’ them down.
Sorry folks while racism still exists in America (and TBH it a hell of a lot better than anywhere else) its not the boot on the neck of black Americans or brown Americans that certain people would have you believe. Go to China, Russia, Iraq, Pakistan, Iran, and your average African nation and see what real tribalism/racism is. I say tribalism since that’s really what racism is, a hatred of those not of your kind (tribe) it’s just that lines are so blurred that the tribal or clan divisions have eroded with time, immigration, slavery, and interbreeding in America and all you have left is skin color. Check out Somalia, Bosnia, Darfur, for some real racial & religious hatred. Words hurt, but bullets & machetes hurt worse.
I’ll even go so far as to say black Americans at this point in time should be thankful that their ancestors were brought here no matter the reason or method. You live and are a part of (should you choose to be) the wealthiest nation on Earth, in a free and stable nation, with some of the best national infrastructure, and where our “poor” live better than many middle class in other nations. Where might they be had they stayed in Africa? Living in a hovel on less than $1 a month like Obama’s brother? Dead in a mass grave somewhere in tribal or religious purges? Part of one of the ever changing governments?
“But, but, but, but…Scott they were slaves!” you cry.
Yeah. And? My ancestors were slaves for 600 years, I got 200 years on them. Look up the Saxons and their conditions after the Norman Conquest of 1066, and find out when they actually began to have a say in British government and equal protection under the law. Every group has at one point in history been enslaved and oppressed. Many have spent time on either end the whip depending on the time period. The ancestors of black Americans were just the most recent, and last, to experience legalized slavery in North America. Slavery is still practiced around the world despite efforts to end the vile practice. Its time people moved on, the whole US institution of slavery was ended in a bloody war nearly 150 years ago, its time for some people to stop milking it, and for the other idiots to stop feeling guilty about it.
As for the “racism free” Europe and “America as the Queen of Racism”, its a steaming load of bull manure. Most of those nations are either racist or have had such small populations of non-European immigrants in the past that hating “people of color” never really was much of an issue as they were more a curiosity than a competing “tribe”. They had enough “tribalism” that had evolved into “nationalism” and had been killing one another over it since Rome fell. We even got a nice taste of it last century in WWI & WWII. Now however with lots of immigration taking place you’re starting to see more “racism” occurring in Europe. However, the Euros are forming “racist” parties to change the laws, while the Muslim immigrants are forming gangs, and making “no-go” zones where the police are afraid to go and Sharia law, not the law of the land is followed.
It sounded to like Boxer wanted Alford to get back on the plantation, to be seen but not heard, and wait for his “mastaa” to give him his instructions for the day.
Damn those Republicans. They had to go and give Blacks their rightful freedom and what do they do: they show their gratitude by telling the Dems to get off their backs.
Oh well. Another civil rights movements gone awry.
Not sure where that statistic came from, and what definition of “middle class” you’re using, but let’s run with that. That means that we have a different political problem. Particularly the middle class Blacks are largely government employees. That means that they’ll for a long time have at least the perception of a good pragmatic reason to feed the donkey.
All the more reason why we need to get behind people like Alford. Getting more Blacks into the private sector in general, and in small business in particular, is the only way this political lock is going to weaken. Not surprisingly, the donkeys want to make small business a less attractive option. None of this, of course, is unique to Blacks, but their penetration into the small business sector is so small, there’s a lot more potential here.
67. Peter the Bubblehead:
Agreed (no surprise, since I’m the one that #61 is responding to). Is the “Black Engineer of the Year” better, or Blacker, than the “Engineer of the Year”? I wouldn’t want the damm award.
10. Stephen:
“We are all racist? What exactly is the empirical evidence for that one?”
Or maybe some more than others.
17. Tony R:
“blah blah blah blah”
36. Frank:
“So everyone thinks that certain racial groups are superior or inferior to other racial groups?
Where have you been?
Remember Nazi Germany, KKK, Spaniards, Black Power, the Roman Empire, British, French, Japanese . . . ?
62. dark helmet:
“Any group of any race is unto itself…. racist
Just another case of pot & kettle.”
69. Scott:
“Go to China, Russia, Iraq, Pakistan, Iran, and your average African nation and see what real tribalism/racism is. I say tribalism since that’s really what racism is, a hatred of those not of your kind (tribe) it’s just that lines are so blurred that the tribal or clan divisions have eroded with time, immigration, slavery, and interbreeding in America and all you have left is skin color. Check out Somalia, Bosnia, Darfur, for some real racial & religious hatred. Words hurt, but bullets & machetes hurt worse.”
Pajammers, #69 worth reading in its entirety.
oh it doesn’t matter…she’ll be praised in her district and re-elected. You guys seems to forget who Boxer is and her connection to the white house and politics.
In 1994, Barbara’s daughter Nicole married Tony Rodham, “brother” of then-First Lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton, in a ceremony in(at) the White House. The couple have a son, Zachary. forever bound by Zachary.
Obama is the bomb. He got rid of Hillary like no one else could!!! He’s keeping her hoping around the globe and out of home politics..hahahahaha
vivo – racism, in its purest form is for the weak minded and ignorant.
Your calling out entire COUNTRIES as racist is a weak rebuttal..
moho, leave it to a left leaning thinker, again, to not discuss the article in a lucid manner but attack its writer! Pathetically typical..
nothing will happen to Boxer.
She has Washington connections. She is the grandmother to Hillary Clinton’s nephew Zachary. They’re both sleezy politicians.
She will also be re-elected, no contest.
#67,
Pete, as I mentioned, there IS an unspoken white “fill-in-the-blank” association, it’s the Good Ole Boy Network. It’s frats, it’s country club associations, churches, it’s socio-economic related private clubs. They may not keep black people out, but it’s not like the welcome mat is out with a lot of them. Black association exists because there was/is marginalization, and overall there is a proximity factor because you have two people of the same minority group with the same interests or career mindset.
There is not a soul that wouldn’t agree with you in wanting a level playing field, except a hardcore racist. However the forces of reality work otherwise.
Strawman,
It’s is indeed correct that most black people are middle class in the US. Both sides are extremely guilty of stereotypes.
Regardless of all the psycho-babble, I am delighted that someone FINALLY called out a liberal for the racists they are.
The more liberals protest, the less convincing they are
actions…ALWAYS…speak…louder…than…words
If conservatives started calling themselves “geniuses”, would liberals call them “geniuses”? No? Then why are conservatives calling liberals “progressives”. What is so “progressive” about liberals. Any time a writer uses that mislabel I usually stop reading.
Watch the video. Alford hands Pelosi her ass.
It’s a great watch . ..
“You are offensive to me!”
Pelosi blubbers and blubbers . . .
Bleh.
Missy Babs was all aghast when one of them negroes got all uppity with her, laws yes! Why she loves them, and feeds them, and takes care of them just like they was people. All of her other pet negroes was falling in lockstep, so what’s up with this uppity field hand Alford? Laws, he’s gonna get a whuppin, laws yes!
Vivo replies to any article about Democrat/statist racism with the “everyone is racist” line. Perhaps what he means is, everyone he hangs out with is racist. Because he’s a statist.
It comes up time and again, yet these statists manage to deflect it by constantly pretending Conservatives are the ‘real racists’. They even push their own racism off onto authority figures – look at the Harvard professor ‘racism’ case. A white neighbor called the cops because two black men wearing backpacks looked like they were trying to break into a house. The cops show up and arrest the guy – and the COPS are called racist, not the people who made the phone call.
Paul Un–I doubt anyone read it. It was unintelligible. If you can summarize it for me, I’ll send you a cigar. But I doubt you’d be able to do that even if it was a masterpiece of clear exposition. That’s because you’re an illiterate dumb-ass.
What I find most humorous is the vast majority of people who post here have nothing but insults. What bothers you is when those insults are directed at your own tribe, rather than the voluminous number of tribes that you all seem to hate.
@ #15 Carolb
“about feeding fried chicken to their kids for breakfast, as he did last year to a black audience during the campaign. How is this not racist?”
Did he really do that? LOL, this is cartoonesk. He mocks black people. Why didn’t you kick him off the pulpit? I suppose you’re too kind and decent for that, very important things that have no colour.
Moho #84
“That’s because you’re an illiterate dumb-ass.”
“What I find most humorous is the vast majority of people who post here have nothing but insults.”
Yeah, that is quite humorous. And so are you. Hypocrisy is a riot.
Moho, enough. You stumblebum into a conversation about something else, weirdly whining about the merits of poetry, while shrilly accusing others of being obtuse? You attempt to slander a writer’s reputation in an inappropriately personal (I think, jealous) manner but insist that your identity doesn’t matter? You claim great authority yet snuff your self-reportedly bright little light? I suspect this off-topic chatter is a smokescreen to hide the fact that you are an angry stalker with a personal bone to pick, and in that you’ve firmly crossed a line.
It’s fine to use a nickname to engage in topical, non-slanderous discussion, but when you choose to move the subject to personalities and attack someone personally, it is cowardly to do so from behind an anonymous veil.
People who are proud of their actions do not hide their faces.
Boxer is a pig. She might as well have said all black people look alike……….
Scott 69: “You realize that 4 out of 6 black Americans are middle class?”
Source?
From a quick google search:
Persons below poverty level in 2007
white 10.5%
black 24.5
source- http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104525.html
Percent of single parent households by race in 2007
Non-Hispanic White 23%
Black or African American 65%
source- http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=107
My original comment was addressing the assumption that blacks vote for liberal polices mostly out of ignorance or laziness, (if I may paraphrase). I contend there are other explanations for the voting patterns of blacks, such as economics.
It makes sense to assume that poorer people, especially single-parent households, will vote for public assistance policies in greater numbers than wealthier people. They are not making judgments about the long term affects of these policies. They don’t have the luxury to do so. They have immediate needs.
Which incidentally I believe makes them prime for exploitation. But that doesn’t make them stupid or ignorant. A person can be in a situation where even though they know they are being exploited, they have no choice but to take a handout when it is offered.
On the other hand, are there those who will exploit the system to get more free stuff? Of course. But are they stupid or lazy for doing so, or clever for exploiting the system for their own good?
Do I discount the effect that poor inner city education has on black youth? No. A bad education can have an affect on the economic status of an individual, which can affect their voting choice. But I don’t equate badly educated with stupid or ignorant. An intelligent, ambitious person held back by a poor education, may be more likely to choose liberal polices, like affirmative action. Despite realizing that such a policy means people will question his/her talent.
For the record, I am as anti-socialist, anti-”progressive”, as you can get. And I am aware and disgusted by the patronization of minorities by leftists. I’ve seen a lot of comments by liberals and conservatives related to why blacks vote they way they do. The left call them Uncle Toms who need their heads examined for voting Repub. The right calls them stupid, ignorant and/or lazy for voting Dem.
I’m countering that its primarily due to economics. And the factors that determine an individuals economic status are many- such as motivation, intellect, networking, where he lives, whether a father is present, the wealth of his parents- etc, etc. These factors, and their effects on the individual, will vary from person to person.
And this is why I believe progressive polices often fail. They are too often based on large scale assumptions- like money will solve the problem of poverty- that ignore or discount the uniqueness of every individual.
So my comment was merely suggesting people think more broadly in terms of why individuals in a group act as they do, rather than rely on stereotypes that paint a group as ignorant and lazy, and possibly insane.
89. Night Owl:
My mother was an ‘intelligent’ but ‘lazy’ slob. She had a ‘genius I.Q.’ but sheeeeeeeee wanted to be an ‘arteest’ who sat her @ss on welfare, did sub-par ‘oil and watercolor paintings’ and sucked off the gub teat because she made poor choices in her plethora of husbands and boyfriends that swished through the ‘swinging door’ of her ‘love-life’. She was a white, college educated LIBTARD.
It’s not just about ‘minorities’. My mom made poor decisions in life and the gov aka THE TAX PAYERS paid for her retarded, effed-up, crappy decisions in life. My mother [and, I use the term 'mother' loosely with regards to 'her'] was a selfish, self-serving person who put me and my siblings in Foster care when we were little because she couldn’t ‘handle’ the responsibility. Nevermind that she was a chronic pot-head loser.
Do the Libs take advantage of lazy, low-class people? Yes. It’s not just the poorly educated people or minorities though…it’s also the people who just simply and plainly don’t want to work and want the tax payers to ‘take care of them’.
I’m not sure if I buy that. It’s not obvious that the white poor of comparable income, education, and family status have similar voting patterns. It’s a whole lot more complicated than that.
One thing that I think is beyond dispute is that neither party has produced any serious tangible benefit since the civil rights movement. The donkeys can’t do anything other than what they’ve been doing for the past 50 years. They’re bound by dogma. The elephants, can, but won’t. School choice, for example. Great stuff for papers from think tanks, but Bush had 8 years to make this a top priority, and what did we get instead? NCLB.
The ball really is in the elephant’s court, but he’s got to be less a creature of habit than the donkey. For God’s sake, give people some tangible reason to believe that things are going to be better, don’t just feed them a bunch of hope and change head cheese.
Particularly the middle class Blacks are largely government employees.
There aren’t that many government employees. I’m guessing that one of the reasons that middle class and above blacks vote consistently left is that many of them look at the lower class of blacks and say, “There but for the grace of affirmative action go I.” That’s not the case, but the constant hammering and yammering about what a racist society America is will certainly have an impact.
Interestingly enough, working poor blacks that I have talked to are about the most vigorously hostile to the welfare state crowd that I have ever met.
@91 Strawman
“It’s a whole lot more complicated than that.”
That, in a nutshell, is precisely my point. Maybe I should have simply posted that!
Boxer is a dunce! Even now she probably hasn’t a clue why it was wrong to practice her ingrained racial discrimination on Alford. You can’t teach people like Boxer anything, you have to wait for them to die.
Clayton, I think the statistics are pretty clear. By “government”, that includes schools, municipal utilities, the military, and a lot of peripheral agencies, but in general there’s a disproportionate number under the general heading of government. And this has been going on for at least a generation, probably longer.
Sorry, I’m not going to play the game of pretending that the private sector was always welcoming. I once worked at a company that was know as one of the more Black-friendly places, because we had quite a few black old-timers there. That was great in the ’90s, but you start talking to some of the old-timers of all races, and you get a less pretty picture of the “good old days”, where these guys were hired to do the jobs that the whites wouldn’t do. Rebuilding cells in rooms full of airborne asbestos. Packing solid lye, and getting “mosquito bites” – welts all over the skin from the lye dust in the air. Etc.
Those days are gone (and so is that plant), but their legacy lingers. People tend to go to the types of places and do the sorts of things that they’re comfortable with. And this is the reality that we all inherit.
In time, there will probably be a slow diffusion into the private sector, but it’s going to be a slow process.
83. AtheistConservative:
“Vivo replies to any article about Democrat/statist racism with the “everyone is racist” line. Perhaps what he means is, everyone he hangs out with is racist.”
What part of “everyone is racist” you don’t understand? If you were honest to yourself . . . Ask 6 billion people.
Vino – “Uh, I know a guy and he happens to be black. That means I’m not a racist.”
Moco – I love the way you tout your own skills and criticize both the author and bloggers here and yet you deem to grace us with your brilliant wit and insightful observations. We are so blessed to be worthy of your precious time and talents. Oooops, time to go!
BTW, Boxer is a brainless twit who rode to office on Feinsteins coattails. For history buffs this was the beginning of the end for California. Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, a liberal legislature … well, the current situation tells it all. FAILURE. The catchphrase of every democratically controlled state in the country.
I suspect this off-topic chatter is a smokescreen to hide the fact that you are an angry stalker with a personal bone to pick, and in that you’ve firmly crossed a line.
My bone I’m picking is with stupidity. The writer in question touts her nomination for a Pushcart Prize. I quoted the nomination process from the website; that’s not slander. That’s like saying I was a candidate for President because I wrote my own name in the ballot. I could nominate my own website for a pushcart prize tomorrow–its a meaningless thing to put on your resume, and something this one did certainly because she has a paucity of skill or accomplishments to get people to take her seriously. I don’t think googling someone is stalking, nor is verifying their claims crossing the line. I’m very disinterested in anything about Grabar, except the writing she posts and the claims she makes. Her exaggerated resume is an indication that her work is going to be crap, and she doesn’t disappoint.
In any case, its a free country. I choose not to publish here under my own name, Grabar does. Grabar wants the acceptance of this community–and with her limited intellect and abilities, its not a hard sell to this bunch. But I don’t care what you think of me, and would rather not have some of the crazy bigots who post here stalking me. If its so important for you to have everyone post under their own name, then I suggest you get the PJ folks to change their policies–whining about it to me isn’t going to do anything.
96. vivo: I would like to make a slight addendum to your argument if you don’t mind. I think you have painted with too broad of a brush here. I don’t believe that everyone is racist (I’m living proof because I’m not racist). I do, however, believe that everyone is prejudiced. There’s a difference.
An extemporaneous example: If I were to open the front door of my house and someone who I had never seen before were standing there, there’s a number of things I would immediately discern (generally in this order): Race, gender, physical size, age, dress, facial and body posture (smiling/welcoming, or frowning/threatening), and perceived intent. And you probably would make the same judgements in approximately the same order. Then we, as preprogrammed human beings, would apply our own prejudices which are based (in general) on our past experiences. If it was a fat, smiling, short white woman carrying a bible and wearing a dress, I would definately not feel very threatened. If, however, it was a young, big black guy wearing his pants sagging way down off his butt with a black baseball cap on sideways, teardrop tattoos under an eye, smelling like marijuana, I would be much more on my guard. Wouldn’t you?
regards