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		<title>By: Myke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is just like B.O They will lie when they know that you know they are lying. They will lie when the proof that they are lying is there for all to see. B.O did it again today in his Fox interview. Sat right there and said if you have an Ins you like you can keep it. Drs are going to quit because they Gov will decide how much they make and where they can practice. That alone will lead to rationing. Adding all the illegals will lead to rationing plus there is a line in the health bill that calls for translating. Something else we will be paying for. 
Bill Gates said they need to depopulate the world by at least a million people and this can be done with health care and vaccinations. 
All of this is on the net in the printed health bill. And yet some people refuse to see it just like they refuse to admit what Bill Ayres is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is just like B.O They will lie when they know that you know they are lying. They will lie when the proof that they are lying is there for all to see. B.O did it again today in his Fox interview. Sat right there and said if you have an Ins you like you can keep it. Drs are going to quit because they Gov will decide how much they make and where they can practice. That alone will lead to rationing. Adding all the illegals will lead to rationing plus there is a line in the health bill that calls for translating. Something else we will be paying for.<br />
Bill Gates said they need to depopulate the world by at least a million people and this can be done with health care and vaccinations.<br />
All of this is on the net in the printed health bill. And yet some people refuse to see it just like they refuse to admit what Bill Ayres is.</p>
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		<title>By: fdhgh</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this page is boring losers hhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this page is boring losers hhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Arundel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arundel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhh.....
          The New York times again. We are kind of used to these boneheads here in NYC. Thank God their subscription base is the upper West side ( Who everyone knows is a bunch of former yuppies in search of a new name) It won&#039;t be long now. Bye NYT. I am worried what to line the bottom of my birdcage with now. Perhaps the Daily Snooze same pov anyway..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhh&#8230;..<br />
          The New York times again. We are kind of used to these boneheads here in NYC. Thank God their subscription base is the upper West side ( Who everyone knows is a bunch of former yuppies in search of a new name) It won&#8217;t be long now. Bye NYT. I am worried what to line the bottom of my birdcage with now. Perhaps the Daily Snooze same pov anyway..</p>
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		<title>By: Pappadave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pappadave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred -
  Virginia D seems to be one of those people who refuse to even ACKNOWLEDGE the existence of evil and corruption (unless speaking of Wall Street, of course.)
  I am another who lived through the 60&#039;s as a young man.  I graduated from HS in 1960, the product of a VERY materially-poor family.  Where my classmates wore the latest fashions (white buck or blue suede shoes, button-down collars on sport shirts, belt-in-the-back, flannel slacks, etc.) always seemed to have enough money for dating and most even had cars, I walked, ran or rode a hand-me-down bike everywhere, owned two pairs of powder-blue Levi&#039;s and four white T-shirts--the sort men wear today as undershirts.  For shoes, I was limited to wearing the tennis shoes issued to the basketball team from the previous year (which we were allowed to keep after the end of the season.)  During the 60&#039;s, I was mostly on active duty in the Army, serving two tours in Vietnam--in 1965 and again in 1967-68...coming home for the last time a month or so after Tet in &#039;68.  During my Stateside duty, I was mostly in schools of one sort or another (Arabic language in 1964 and helicopter pilot training in 1966.) Since I was also an intel area specialist, I did some poking into what was going on in California before and after my two tours in Vietnam--especially on college campi.  I became fairly familiar with the &quot;shock troops&quot; that were being used by the far left in their efforts to destroy the U.S. from within by subverting our kids.  

I found the run-of-the-mill &quot;hippies&quot; to be just bored, spoiled brats who&#039;d grown up with everything handed to them without having to put out much personal effort themselves.  Oh, a few were &quot;true believers,&quot; but MOST of them went to &quot;protest rallies&quot; and &quot;demonstrations&quot; to meet members of the opposite sex...FOR sex. (Which seemed to be available to everyone EXCEPT returning Vietnam vets who weren&#039;t inclined to talk down about the war, the government and the military.) ;) A few, like Ayers, Dorhn, Angela Davis and Jane Fonda with hubby and former SDS president, Tom Hayden, took their roles as &quot;revolutionaries&quot; VERY seriously.  Many of these, who internalized what passes for leftist &quot;thought,&quot; turned to education as a career.  Ayers, Dorhn and Davis are all currently &quot;professors&quot; at various institutes of &quot;higher learning.&quot;  University professorships were attractive for several reasons.  A PhD was relatively easy to obtain--especially where schools judged doctoral theses by weight, instead of by actual content and rationality, and, best of all, the whole thing could be obtained on someone else&#039;s nickel--Mom and Dad or the nanny State--the very people they so disdained. All they had to do was keep their figurative noses clean until achieving tenure and they were then free to promote and teach our children any crackpot idea they wanted to without fear of even mild reprimand.  Most of &#039;em chose to teach and promote Marxist theory--often disguised as a legitimate subject of study.  One of the most obvious of these is the current fad of teaching &quot;black studies,&quot; in which black history has quite literally been invented out of whole cloth...such as the introduction of Kwaanza, which no African-born black person ever even heard of before coming to America, or the teaching that the Egyptian pharoahs &quot;were all black,&quot; which is a provable, historic lie.  (They were mostly of Greek ancestry.  It wasn&#039;t just the best-known and most violent of these radicals who chose this route.  Hardly a university in the nation exists without a virtual plethora of such &quot;teachers.&quot;

One would think that the fact that all those &quot;communes&quot; established by these 60&#039;s hippies have completely disappeared would be proof enough to the left that socialism just doesn&#039;t work, but they&#039;ve invented all sorts of rationalizations as to why they all failed miserably.  Instead, the indoctrination of our youth continues unabated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred -<br />
  Virginia D seems to be one of those people who refuse to even ACKNOWLEDGE the existence of evil and corruption (unless speaking of Wall Street, of course.)<br />
  I am another who lived through the 60&#8242;s as a young man.  I graduated from HS in 1960, the product of a VERY materially-poor family.  Where my classmates wore the latest fashions (white buck or blue suede shoes, button-down collars on sport shirts, belt-in-the-back, flannel slacks, etc.) always seemed to have enough money for dating and most even had cars, I walked, ran or rode a hand-me-down bike everywhere, owned two pairs of powder-blue Levi&#8217;s and four white T-shirts&#8211;the sort men wear today as undershirts.  For shoes, I was limited to wearing the tennis shoes issued to the basketball team from the previous year (which we were allowed to keep after the end of the season.)  During the 60&#8242;s, I was mostly on active duty in the Army, serving two tours in Vietnam&#8211;in 1965 and again in 1967-68&#8230;coming home for the last time a month or so after Tet in &#8217;68.  During my Stateside duty, I was mostly in schools of one sort or another (Arabic language in 1964 and helicopter pilot training in 1966.) Since I was also an intel area specialist, I did some poking into what was going on in California before and after my two tours in Vietnam&#8211;especially on college campi.  I became fairly familiar with the &#8220;shock troops&#8221; that were being used by the far left in their efforts to destroy the U.S. from within by subverting our kids.  </p>
<p>I found the run-of-the-mill &#8220;hippies&#8221; to be just bored, spoiled brats who&#8217;d grown up with everything handed to them without having to put out much personal effort themselves.  Oh, a few were &#8220;true believers,&#8221; but MOST of them went to &#8220;protest rallies&#8221; and &#8220;demonstrations&#8221; to meet members of the opposite sex&#8230;FOR sex. (Which seemed to be available to everyone EXCEPT returning Vietnam vets who weren&#8217;t inclined to talk down about the war, the government and the military.) <img src='http://pjmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  A few, like Ayers, Dorhn, Angela Davis and Jane Fonda with hubby and former SDS president, Tom Hayden, took their roles as &#8220;revolutionaries&#8221; VERY seriously.  Many of these, who internalized what passes for leftist &#8220;thought,&#8221; turned to education as a career.  Ayers, Dorhn and Davis are all currently &#8220;professors&#8221; at various institutes of &#8220;higher learning.&#8221;  University professorships were attractive for several reasons.  A PhD was relatively easy to obtain&#8211;especially where schools judged doctoral theses by weight, instead of by actual content and rationality, and, best of all, the whole thing could be obtained on someone else&#8217;s nickel&#8211;Mom and Dad or the nanny State&#8211;the very people they so disdained. All they had to do was keep their figurative noses clean until achieving tenure and they were then free to promote and teach our children any crackpot idea they wanted to without fear of even mild reprimand.  Most of &#8216;em chose to teach and promote Marxist theory&#8211;often disguised as a legitimate subject of study.  One of the most obvious of these is the current fad of teaching &#8220;black studies,&#8221; in which black history has quite literally been invented out of whole cloth&#8230;such as the introduction of Kwaanza, which no African-born black person ever even heard of before coming to America, or the teaching that the Egyptian pharoahs &#8220;were all black,&#8221; which is a provable, historic lie.  (They were mostly of Greek ancestry.  It wasn&#8217;t just the best-known and most violent of these radicals who chose this route.  Hardly a university in the nation exists without a virtual plethora of such &#8220;teachers.&#8221;</p>
<p>One would think that the fact that all those &#8220;communes&#8221; established by these 60&#8242;s hippies have completely disappeared would be proof enough to the left that socialism just doesn&#8217;t work, but they&#8217;ve invented all sorts of rationalizations as to why they all failed miserably.  Instead, the indoctrination of our youth continues unabated.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virginia D bloviates the same &quot;socialism did not fail, it was just not done right in the first place&quot; logic that keeps them coming back for more punishment.

Virginia D, you cannot hold a candle to the enormous amount of reading I&#039;ve done across all of the important minds in Marxism.  I was a Marxist for ten years of my life, from age 22 up until I was 32 years of age.  I was an aspiring academician who happened to take the critiques of socialism coming from the theologian Michael Novak seriously.  Essentially, utopia is nonsense.  There can be no socialist utopia because it is not consistent with or compatible with human nature.  We are flawed in every respect and there is always going to be evil and evil people ruining every attempt at building heaven on earth.  Dive into developmental psychology, genetics, and neuroscience as I have and you will realize that EVIL has an organic and cosmological basis.

Socialism is based on a lie, and anyone with any brains will eventually figure this out.  It was personally liberating for me when I could finally make a break with it.  Prior to that moment, I had to endure a fair amount of cognitive dissonance.  The evidence of history is conclusive and decisive on the issue of the viability of socialism.  It has failed to bring material prosperity and spiritual liberation to human beings.  It did not result in The New Moral Man.  If you go and look at the countries and societies where it has been tried, you will find rampant corruption, criminality, and evil of all kinds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virginia D bloviates the same &#8220;socialism did not fail, it was just not done right in the first place&#8221; logic that keeps them coming back for more punishment.</p>
<p>Virginia D, you cannot hold a candle to the enormous amount of reading I&#8217;ve done across all of the important minds in Marxism.  I was a Marxist for ten years of my life, from age 22 up until I was 32 years of age.  I was an aspiring academician who happened to take the critiques of socialism coming from the theologian Michael Novak seriously.  Essentially, utopia is nonsense.  There can be no socialist utopia because it is not consistent with or compatible with human nature.  We are flawed in every respect and there is always going to be evil and evil people ruining every attempt at building heaven on earth.  Dive into developmental psychology, genetics, and neuroscience as I have and you will realize that EVIL has an organic and cosmological basis.</p>
<p>Socialism is based on a lie, and anyone with any brains will eventually figure this out.  It was personally liberating for me when I could finally make a break with it.  Prior to that moment, I had to endure a fair amount of cognitive dissonance.  The evidence of history is conclusive and decisive on the issue of the viability of socialism.  It has failed to bring material prosperity and spiritual liberation to human beings.  It did not result in The New Moral Man.  If you go and look at the countries and societies where it has been tried, you will find rampant corruption, criminality, and evil of all kinds.</p>
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		<title>By: MomdeGuerre</title>
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		<dc:creator>MomdeGuerre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t you all missing the point? This psychopath is the VP of the largest educational organization in the US. He once said something along the lines that - education is the pivot point of the revolution. Do you want his ideology teaching our children? He is helping to decide the curriculum for US Education K - 12! His readings are required for aspiring teachers! Hello!!! Anyone awake out there to the threat??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t you all missing the point? This psychopath is the VP of the largest educational organization in the US. He once said something along the lines that &#8211; education is the pivot point of the revolution. Do you want his ideology teaching our children? He is helping to decide the curriculum for US Education K &#8211; 12! His readings are required for aspiring teachers! Hello!!! Anyone awake out there to the threat??</p>
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		<title>By: Michael P Macaluso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael P Macaluso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The New York Times is a DYING company in the Dying print media industry.</description>
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		<title>By: Virginia D.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 03:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AndrewD:  I am not trolling and I resent your remarks about socialism is about mass murder. Modern socialism is not about going out and start murdering people.  I would advise you to do a little real studying and thinking for yourself instead of believing everything that your government spews out.  Capitalist U.S. and it imperialistic hold it has on the world has caused the death of millions of people.  Our party&#039;s goal is not to make the same mistakes that past socialist revolutions have.  The fallacies of capitalism is causing its own collapse.  It is getting close to the point where the working class has had enough of the ruling class&#039;s garbage and will rise up and fight back.  If there is bloodshed, then the guilt will be on the backs of your disfunctional government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AndrewD:  I am not trolling and I resent your remarks about socialism is about mass murder. Modern socialism is not about going out and start murdering people.  I would advise you to do a little real studying and thinking for yourself instead of believing everything that your government spews out.  Capitalist U.S. and it imperialistic hold it has on the world has caused the death of millions of people.  Our party&#8217;s goal is not to make the same mistakes that past socialist revolutions have.  The fallacies of capitalism is causing its own collapse.  It is getting close to the point where the working class has had enough of the ruling class&#8217;s garbage and will rise up and fight back.  If there is bloodshed, then the guilt will be on the backs of your disfunctional government.</p>
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		<title>By: PAC</title>
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		<dc:creator>PAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forest-I was in school during the 60&#039;s. The radicals then, many who now call themselves anarchists, weren&#039;t shy at all about their exact intent. It may have taken a bit to decipher it, due to their penchant for psuedo-intellectual and often drug enhanced language. But after a while their actions toward certain of our(those of us who didn&#039;t agree with them) actions helped with translation. They screamed it in the media, in the classrooms and in our faces, so close we could count their teeth and hear the ringing in our ears. I was literally slammed against the wall physically and verbally with their message. What we heard them saying was basically-&quot;Down with the establishment because our parents built it and they are wrong because they are controlling and money hungry and won&#039;t agree with our point of view. Down with all of their laws and morals because they are wrong, because they don&#039;t agree with us, and anyone who is not with us is against us.&quot; This is the short version, since the original was profanely inserted every other word, with a four letter word.(although one of their all time faves was 6 letters added to &#039;mother&#039;)and also included whatever personal agenda each group hung onto as the only right way to go. The only thing they had in common is that they ALL agreed that the &#039;establishment&#039; just had to be destroyed.  
I went to school with them, encountered them on the street and lived with some of them. One of my exroom mates still keeps tabs on me, doesn&#039;t talk to me because I don&#039;t agree with her. She considers me to be wrong because I don&#039;t do things her way.
Because I wore a mini skirt, didn&#039;t smoke, drink, swear or toke and refused to give it away and insisted on wearing my bras, I was treated as one of the enemy. I was told that I was wrong because I had the gaul to disagree with them.It was alright for them to disagree with me, but I didn&#039;t have the right to disagree with them.Many of the original &#039;radicals&#039; of the 60&#039;s came from wealthy and middle class families from the eastern states, or at least the ones I knew, did, and the ones they knew did. They were out to make the world a far different place than the one their parents had made. What is really ironic is that a lot of them gave birth to the yuppy movement, which was even more involved in what their parents were involved in.Hm... 
When we were in junior high/middle school, we attended fairly clean and fairly innocent sockhops. By my senior year, senior cut day was an actual drunken orgy and I could smell the burning back 40 in the halls of our school(as in weed, not weeds). We were listening to such psychadelic music as &#039;Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds&#039;, &#039;Light My Fire&#039;and &#039;In the Desert With a Horse With no Name&#039;. Several girls were pregnant their senior year or already married-which isn&#039;t, unfortunately, earth shattering, now. But then, it was still pretty touchy. This all influenced the attitude of the times. We heard the Beatles/Joan Baez/Judy Collins/Peter Paul and Mary the Smothers Brothers and Timothy Leary etc constantly telling us to not under any circumstances trust anyone who wasn&#039;t from our generation or didn&#039;t think like us. Plus Tom(Ted?) Laehr(sp) singing about pollution-for the generation who grew up having bombing drills in school by hiding under our desks. And on top of this we had Vietnam Vets coming home as very old men in young men&#039;s bodies, experiencing what we didn&#039;t have a clue about and dealing with very serious issues of drugs, reentry and post-traumatic-stress-syndrome and whatever they may have lost and left on the battle field and the way they had been pilloried on their return to this country. This was some of the confusing mix of the times-plus the assassinations/school shootings/publicized orgies/mass murders/drug over doses/kidnappings/hostage situations/riots/bank robberies-demonstrations-all kinds of demonstrations-marches/riots/sit-ins/sing-ins/takeovers, most to get one point across, that the party doing the damage insisted that the receiving party was wrong and therefore no longer entitled to running the country. But the other side was just as intolerant they brought out the cops in riot gear and billy clubs, which they did use, oh yes and a lot of teargas and some bullets.(Only some of this was about the Vietnam War)
This was also the generation who grew up on &#039;Father Knows Best&#039;, &#039;Ozzy and Harriet&#039;. &#039;Andy Griffith&#039;&#039; The Ed Sullivan Show&#039; &#039;Jack Benny&quot;,&#039;The Smothers Brothers&#039; &#039;Sonny and Cher&#039;. and &#039;Laugh-in&#039;,etc to help to give you a flavor for the time. 

As for the muslim issue. I have a cousin who was married into the muslim community for 25 years and I have talked to many muslims in my travels in and out of Europe over the past 10 years. This is what we have been told by almost every muslim we have talked to-When the day of the prophet comes all muslims are obligated to rise up and kill all infidels(non muslims)or be killed themselves, and that the people of the Book(Jews and Christians-read any non muslim)were replaced by the muslims because we all screwed up and the muslims are now god&#039;s chosen people, and that it is their job to rid this planet of the scourge that we have become and to repopulate this planet with the only right way/religion-as in islam.

There is a similarity in the intolerance, which might explain why the anarchist movement doesn&#039;t see the muslim terroists as the problem. However, just as in the Cold War, the Communists used &#039;fellow travelers&#039; only as long as they were useful, then eliminated them, the same would be true for the muslims with the anarchists.-Fellow traveler-someone who helped to enable the actual sabatour, and was sympathetic toward the cause involved, but were not themselves a sabatour or spy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forest-I was in school during the 60&#8242;s. The radicals then, many who now call themselves anarchists, weren&#8217;t shy at all about their exact intent. It may have taken a bit to decipher it, due to their penchant for psuedo-intellectual and often drug enhanced language. But after a while their actions toward certain of our(those of us who didn&#8217;t agree with them) actions helped with translation. They screamed it in the media, in the classrooms and in our faces, so close we could count their teeth and hear the ringing in our ears. I was literally slammed against the wall physically and verbally with their message. What we heard them saying was basically-&#8221;Down with the establishment because our parents built it and they are wrong because they are controlling and money hungry and won&#8217;t agree with our point of view. Down with all of their laws and morals because they are wrong, because they don&#8217;t agree with us, and anyone who is not with us is against us.&#8221; This is the short version, since the original was profanely inserted every other word, with a four letter word.(although one of their all time faves was 6 letters added to &#8216;mother&#8217;)and also included whatever personal agenda each group hung onto as the only right way to go. The only thing they had in common is that they ALL agreed that the &#8216;establishment&#8217; just had to be destroyed.<br />
I went to school with them, encountered them on the street and lived with some of them. One of my exroom mates still keeps tabs on me, doesn&#8217;t talk to me because I don&#8217;t agree with her. She considers me to be wrong because I don&#8217;t do things her way.<br />
Because I wore a mini skirt, didn&#8217;t smoke, drink, swear or toke and refused to give it away and insisted on wearing my bras, I was treated as one of the enemy. I was told that I was wrong because I had the gaul to disagree with them.It was alright for them to disagree with me, but I didn&#8217;t have the right to disagree with them.Many of the original &#8216;radicals&#8217; of the 60&#8242;s came from wealthy and middle class families from the eastern states, or at least the ones I knew, did, and the ones they knew did. They were out to make the world a far different place than the one their parents had made. What is really ironic is that a lot of them gave birth to the yuppy movement, which was even more involved in what their parents were involved in.Hm&#8230;<br />
When we were in junior high/middle school, we attended fairly clean and fairly innocent sockhops. By my senior year, senior cut day was an actual drunken orgy and I could smell the burning back 40 in the halls of our school(as in weed, not weeds). We were listening to such psychadelic music as &#8216;Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds&#8217;, &#8216;Light My Fire&#8217;and &#8216;In the Desert With a Horse With no Name&#8217;. Several girls were pregnant their senior year or already married-which isn&#8217;t, unfortunately, earth shattering, now. But then, it was still pretty touchy. This all influenced the attitude of the times. We heard the Beatles/Joan Baez/Judy Collins/Peter Paul and Mary the Smothers Brothers and Timothy Leary etc constantly telling us to not under any circumstances trust anyone who wasn&#8217;t from our generation or didn&#8217;t think like us. Plus Tom(Ted?) Laehr(sp) singing about pollution-for the generation who grew up having bombing drills in school by hiding under our desks. And on top of this we had Vietnam Vets coming home as very old men in young men&#8217;s bodies, experiencing what we didn&#8217;t have a clue about and dealing with very serious issues of drugs, reentry and post-traumatic-stress-syndrome and whatever they may have lost and left on the battle field and the way they had been pilloried on their return to this country. This was some of the confusing mix of the times-plus the assassinations/school shootings/publicized orgies/mass murders/drug over doses/kidnappings/hostage situations/riots/bank robberies-demonstrations-all kinds of demonstrations-marches/riots/sit-ins/sing-ins/takeovers, most to get one point across, that the party doing the damage insisted that the receiving party was wrong and therefore no longer entitled to running the country. But the other side was just as intolerant they brought out the cops in riot gear and billy clubs, which they did use, oh yes and a lot of teargas and some bullets.(Only some of this was about the Vietnam War)<br />
This was also the generation who grew up on &#8216;Father Knows Best&#8217;, &#8216;Ozzy and Harriet&#8217;. &#8216;Andy Griffith&#8221; The Ed Sullivan Show&#8217; &#8216;Jack Benny&#8221;,&#8217;The Smothers Brothers&#8217; &#8216;Sonny and Cher&#8217;. and &#8216;Laugh-in&#8217;,etc to help to give you a flavor for the time. </p>
<p>As for the muslim issue. I have a cousin who was married into the muslim community for 25 years and I have talked to many muslims in my travels in and out of Europe over the past 10 years. This is what we have been told by almost every muslim we have talked to-When the day of the prophet comes all muslims are obligated to rise up and kill all infidels(non muslims)or be killed themselves, and that the people of the Book(Jews and Christians-read any non muslim)were replaced by the muslims because we all screwed up and the muslims are now god&#8217;s chosen people, and that it is their job to rid this planet of the scourge that we have become and to repopulate this planet with the only right way/religion-as in islam.</p>
<p>There is a similarity in the intolerance, which might explain why the anarchist movement doesn&#8217;t see the muslim terroists as the problem. However, just as in the Cold War, the Communists used &#8216;fellow travelers&#8217; only as long as they were useful, then eliminated them, the same would be true for the muslims with the anarchists.-Fellow traveler-someone who helped to enable the actual sabatour, and was sympathetic toward the cause involved, but were not themselves a sabatour or spy.</p>
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		<title>By: John Schuh</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Schuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betty Mack:

Nixon&#039;s  mistake  was to conduct a fighting retreat rather than instantly withdrawing and letting S. Vietnam collapse.  Ironically, Obama may have to do the same thing in Southwest Asia. He may even have to widen the war for a time, as Nixon did.  But all this demonizing of Nixon is totally irrational, as there is no arguing with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betty Mack:</p>
<p>Nixon&#8217;s  mistake  was to conduct a fighting retreat rather than instantly withdrawing and letting S. Vietnam collapse.  Ironically, Obama may have to do the same thing in Southwest Asia. He may even have to widen the war for a time, as Nixon did.  But all this demonizing of Nixon is totally irrational, as there is no arguing with it.</p>
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