[Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid.]

A lesson learned from experience, no doubt. — DavidS

….indeed.

Watching what happens to the ‘stupid’.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[A wise man learns from watching the mistakes of others.]

Chuck(le)
[Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid.]

A lesson learned from experience, no doubt.

Peace.

DS

Moho;

considering that the UK’s satisfaction rate is 88% [lol]–other countries have proven that universal health care is at the very least pleasant to have.

I have family in Europe. My relatives all have private health insurance for the times when they don’t want to wait for treatment. Most of these universal systems are hybrids of private and public, the private sector picking up where the public sector fails and vice versa.

By the purest definition of the term, universal healthcare does not work either.

considering that the UK’s satisfaction rate is 88% [lol]–other countries have proven that universal health care is at the very least pleasant to have.

I have family in Europe. My relatives all have private health insurance for the times when they don’t want to wait for treatment. Most of these universal systems are hybrids of private and public, the private sector picking up where the public sector fails and by the purest definition, does not work either.

As I said, that kind of bs might work for the little minds that you’re used to palling around with, but it won’t get you anywhere with me, and is pretty weak tea considering the amount of evidence I provided you. You haven’t seen the study yourself, that’s obvious. You haven’t seen the DOJ study, another obvious fact. And its embarrassingly obvious that you haven’t even read any of the articles that you’ve linked to.

Lastly, Woolhandler is the senior author of the study, something you’d know if you spent any time actually looking into it yourself.

“I am senior author on two studies on medical bankruptcy, the most recent of which appears in the
August 2009 issue of the American Journal of Medicine.”

http://judiciary.house.gov/judiciary/hearings/pdf/Woolhandler090728.pdf

The fact that you would broadcast both your complete unfamiliarity with the study and the extreme bias shown by the authors of the articles you’ve linked to [who can't admit that its not their favorite boogeyman who authored the study], prove without a shadow of a doubt that you’re one stupid mo fo.

Finally here is some concrete information on the methodology of the study. This is probably the first of it you see. You can ignore it as you have in the past, or you can man up and use your own apparently superior brain to come up with your own answers about why its methodology is flawed:

To help other researchers who might choose to use different definitions, we have supplied a detailed analysis of debtors who:
• Specifically identified medical problem of the debtor or spouse (32.1%) or another family
member (10.8%) as a reason for filing bankruptcy.
• Specifically said medical bills were a reason for bankruptcy. (29.0%)
• Lost two or more weeks of wages because of lost time from work to deal with a medical
problem for themselves or a family member. (40.3%)
• Mortgaged their homes to pay medical bills. (5.7%)
• Spent more than $5000 or 10% of annual household income in out-of-pocket medical
bills (34.7%)
• Total, one or more of the above criteria: 62.1%
The vast majority (92%) of bankruptcies that we classified as medical had medical bill problems as
indicated by: listing medical bills as a specific reason for their bankruptcy, or having medical bills of
bills $5000 or 10% of household income, or that forced them to mortgage their home. The remaining
8% whose bankruptcy was classified as “medical” indicated that a medical problem or income loss due
to illness was a cause of bankruptcy.

You already posted the McArdle piece, so this is not a further debunking. This is merely a loop; from the RealClear piece to a DOJ report that resists reproduction, to McArdle, with each person writing about the previous two, another “nail” in your pea brain. Its easy to see how easily you get spun around.

This is one of my favorite types of leftist intellectual head-in-the-sand-ism. The “I didn’t read any further than…”, as if your ignorance of the facts somehow acted as a talisman against them.

If you had read further, numbskull, you’d have seen that the author of that blurb actually had this to say:

“The study has a couple of other implications which Ms. McArdle didn’t note. First, it reports that: “at illness onset, 77.9% were insured: 60.3% had private insurance as their primary coverage; 10.2% had Medicare; 5.4% had Medicaid; and 2% had Veterans’ Affairs/military coverage….. By the time of the bankruptcy, the proportion of patients with private coverage had fallen to 54.1%, while the percentage with Medicare and Medicaid had increased to 16.4% and 9.9%, respectively.”

You do the math: the proportion of “medically uninsured” with insurance (private or public) increased from 77.9% to 80.4%, over 2 points, between “onset of illness” and “time of bankruptcy,” and most of the increase was moving from private to public coverage. The move to Medicaid I understand: get sick, lose your job, go on Medicaid, and declare bankruptcy. But the huge move to Medicare is harder to understand, unless a significant number of the medically bankrupt were 64 years old at the “onset of illness.” That may be the case: the median age of the medically bankrupt was 45, whereas the median age of the U.S. population is 37.

So, what we likely observe here is the classic story of people failing to adequately save for retirement (discussed in today’s Wall Street Journal by Janice Nittoli, and, of course the subject of another NCPA blog).”

Actually, there is a stream of commentary about the methodological flaws in the study throughout McCardle’s comments and follow-up posts. If I thought you were capable of being educated, I’d point them out to you. BTW, are you banging that Woolhandler chick or something? She’s clearly the junior grunt on that study, relative to Himmelstein and Warren, yet you treat her like she’s the queen bee.

A true mark of madness.

Sad really.