Comments on: The Myth of Women as ‘Victims’ http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-myth-of-women-as-victims/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:21:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Eric B http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-myth-of-women-as-victims/#comment-1856982 Eric B Fri, 09 Dec 2011 00:31:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54940#comment-1856982 I find it interesting that statistics get quoted promiscuosly with out any reference to their source. Unverified stats are nothing more than an opinion. I find it interesting that statistics get quoted promiscuosly with out any reference to their source. Unverified stats are nothing more than an opinion.

]]> By: Equal http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-myth-of-women-as-victims/#comment-861490 Equal Wed, 02 Feb 2011 23:30:39 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54940#comment-861490 Dr.Bukk You have stated some interesting facts in your post; however most thinking human beings understand that statics can be skewed. I like most people feel a sense of safety with a form of predictability. Leave the stats out of it, because the cold and hard reality to all that has been posted on this page poses truths and untruths. Men are prosecuted twice that of women for reasons of than the nature of the crimes. Most often, men are prosecuted because of fear, women are naturally not feared in the same manner. If a woman kills twenty people society does not fear them as much as men. SELAH! We are all human beings and are subject to think anyone way because of our environmental background, social-economic status, race, gender, and age. Women have unique qualities and characteristics that are needed to balance society, but I would have to agree with several other writers. What started out as a much needed equalization of human rights has ended in a tangled web of confusion. Dr.Bukk

You have stated some interesting facts in your post; however most thinking human beings understand that statics can be skewed. I like most people feel a sense of safety with a form of predictability. Leave the stats out of it, because the cold and hard reality to all that has been posted on this page poses truths and untruths. Men are prosecuted twice that of women for reasons of than the nature of the crimes. Most often, men are prosecuted because of fear, women are naturally not feared in the same manner. If a woman kills twenty people society does not fear them as much as men. SELAH! We are all human beings and are subject to think anyone way because of our environmental background, social-economic status, race, gender, and age. Women have unique qualities and characteristics that are needed to balance society, but I would have to agree with several other writers. What started out as a much needed equalization of human rights has ended in a tangled web of confusion.

]]> By: Tia http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-myth-of-women-as-victims/#comment-305431 Tia Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:11:13 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54940#comment-305431 The fact is that most of the victims in civilization - any civilization- have predominantly been Men. The perpetrators have also predominantly been Men. Men are enriched at the poles of every spectrum- intelligence/stupidity,crime/altruism,accomplishment/failure,strength/weakness, humor/humorlessness etc etc.Except,perhaps,mortality. No matter how many Feminists and Leftist distort this obvious fact,it will always remain obvious and a fact. It's A Man's Man's Man's World. The fact is that most of the victims in civilization – any civilization- have predominantly been Men. The perpetrators have also predominantly been Men.
Men are enriched at the poles of every spectrum- intelligence/stupidity,crime/altruism,accomplishment/failure,strength/weakness, humor/humorlessness etc etc.Except,perhaps,mortality.
No matter how many Feminists and Leftist distort this obvious fact,it will always remain obvious and a fact.
It’s A Man’s Man’s Man’s World.

]]> By: jw http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-myth-of-women-as-victims/#comment-265637 jw Sun, 24 May 2009 17:38:07 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54940#comment-265637 (4) Mariecurie: "John Stuart Mill and Mary Wollstonecraft speak to the desire of women to receive the same education as men (in those days, only men could attend university)." John Stuart Mill was speaking of the situation in Great Britain, not the United States. The first coed college in the U.S. was, I believe, Oberlin, founded as such in 1832. Swarthmore was founded as coed in 1865. Some women's colleges, like Mt. Holyoke, were founded in the 1830s, I believe. Mary Wollstencroft was writing in the late 18th century, I believe, and there was no issue about higher education then. (4) Mariecurie:
“John Stuart Mill and Mary Wollstonecraft speak to the desire of women to receive the same education as men (in those days, only men could attend university).”
John Stuart Mill was speaking of the situation in Great Britain, not the United States. The first coed college in the U.S. was, I believe, Oberlin, founded as such in 1832. Swarthmore was founded as coed in 1865. Some women’s colleges, like Mt. Holyoke, were founded in the 1830s, I believe.
Mary Wollstencroft was writing in the late 18th century, I believe, and there was no issue about higher education then.

]]> By: siobhan http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-myth-of-women-as-victims/#comment-259594 siobhan Thu, 14 May 2009 13:27:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54940#comment-259594 I really like Pajamas Media-but this is well below standard-there are some points that could be argued here but generally the writer just comes over as rather silly. I Suggest that 'James Lewis' reads some of Phyllis Chesler's excellent articles and gets out a bit more. Alexa I really like Pajamas Media-but this is well below standard-there are some points that could be argued here but generally the writer just comes over as rather silly. I Suggest that ‘James Lewis’ reads some of Phyllis Chesler’s excellent articles and gets out a bit more.

Alexa

]]> By: Cynthia Yockey, A Conservative Lesbian http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-myth-of-women-as-victims/#comment-257747 Cynthia Yockey, A Conservative Lesbian Mon, 11 May 2009 06:24:14 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54940#comment-257747 "James Lewis" appears to be a pseudonym. Pajamas Media should not publish authors who do not have the courage and integrity to present their true identity and credentials. Cynthia “James Lewis” appears to be a pseudonym. Pajamas Media should not publish authors who do not have the courage and integrity to present their true identity and credentials.

Cynthia

]]> By: Someone75 http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-myth-of-women-as-victims/#comment-257740 Someone75 Mon, 11 May 2009 05:48:35 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54940#comment-257740 wlpeak: I agree - that's not what the article was arguing. My remarks were directed to many of the people who posted ignorant comments. There are plenty of areas where one could attack feminism, but I saw few of them here. I did, however, see many stupid reasons for attacking feminism. wlpeak:

I agree – that’s not what the article was arguing. My remarks were directed to many of the people who posted ignorant comments. There are plenty of areas where one could attack feminism, but I saw few of them here. I did, however, see many stupid reasons for attacking feminism.

]]> By: qwerty http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-myth-of-women-as-victims/#comment-257713 qwerty Mon, 11 May 2009 03:26:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54940#comment-257713 @Nisse C, You choose to focus on the challenges faced by women and nothing else. This is a standard tactic used by feminists and their male lapdogs to reinforce their flawed ideology. Besides that, in Rome, most of the men were destined to some hard labor and were essentially a wage earning slave for their families. And i find your claim of Women being Property to be dubious. Women were never sold or brought in an open market. May be their marriage was out of their choice, but so was that for young men. @Nisse C,

You choose to focus on the challenges faced by women and nothing else. This is a standard tactic used by feminists and their male lapdogs to reinforce their flawed ideology.

Besides that, in Rome, most of the men were destined to some hard labor and were essentially a wage earning slave for their families. And i find your claim of Women being Property to be dubious. Women were never sold or brought in an open market. May be their marriage was out of their choice, but so was that for young men.

]]> By: Nisse C. http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-myth-of-women-as-victims/#comment-257650 Nisse C. Sun, 10 May 2009 23:16:23 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54940#comment-257650 In the U.S.: - 1/5 women will be victims of violence against women. -Women earn 0.78 on the dollar compared to men. Actually a new study coming out will show that it is less. Women in Rome were property. So you extrapolate a couple of wives of emperors and generalize? The U.S. is 71st among nations for women in national legislatures. Rwanda is ahead of us. Yes! Rwanda. The percentage is close to 50% in Scandinavia. For a scientist, you show a remarkable lack of data and facts. In fact, you show a lot of fear. Did you have a bad time with your wife this week? Feeling insecure? Need to feel more macho? In the U.S.:
– 1/5 women will be victims of violence against women.

-Women earn 0.78 on the dollar compared to men. Actually a new study coming out will show that it is less.

Women in Rome were property. So you extrapolate a couple of wives of emperors and generalize?

The U.S. is 71st among nations for women in national legislatures. Rwanda is ahead of us. Yes! Rwanda. The percentage is close to 50% in Scandinavia.

For a scientist, you show a remarkable lack of data and facts.
In fact, you show a lot of fear.

Did you have a bad time with your wife this week? Feeling insecure? Need to feel more macho?

]]> By: wlpeak http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-myth-of-women-as-victims/#comment-257438 wlpeak Sun, 10 May 2009 14:30:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54940#comment-257438 @Someone75 "Yes - women have exactly the same rights as men, and always have. That’s why they’ve always been able to vote. Also, that’s why they now earn equal pay for equal work." Yes, women and men do have exactly the same rights. Now whether those rights are respected equally is a different matter. Also, I don't think anyone here is arguing that things have always been the same, or defending the wrongs of the past, etc. The article seems to be making the point that the modern incarnation of Feminism falsely presupposes female weakness. @Someone75
“Yes – women have exactly the same rights as men, and always have. That’s why they’ve always been able to vote. Also, that’s why they now earn equal pay for equal work.”

Yes, women and men do have exactly the same rights. Now whether those rights are respected equally is a different matter.

Also, I don’t think anyone here is arguing that things have always been the same, or defending the wrongs of the past, etc.

The article seems to be making the point that the modern incarnation of Feminism falsely presupposes female weakness.

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