The Islamist Who Served on the Electoral College
Election 2008 proved historic on a number of levels, but one milestone passed without the recognition it deserves. When the Electoral College convened on December 15 to ratify the citizens’ choice of Barack Obama as the next president, Jafar “Jeff” Siddiqui of Lynnwood, Washington, became the first known Islamist to cast an electoral vote.
Siddiqui — a real estate agent, former chairman of the Islamic School of Seattle, and founding member of the American Muslims of Puget Sound activist group — was named a Democratic elector after his impromptu speech at the state party convention, in which he pledged to fight “the hate and bigotry that are being promoted in this country.” The Post-Intelligencer gushed, “His mission is to counteract the image of Muslims as fanatical terrorists and extremists that, he believes, is propagated in the media, popular culture, and even the government.”
Yet Siddiqui has a long record of airing his own extreme views in local papers and the American Muslim magazine, a truth that was noted by an alert blog but predictably ignored by the mainstream press at the time of his appointment. As detailed below, Siddiqui is a textbook “lawful” Islamist who dreams of imposing at least one element of Sharia on the West: curbing speech that is critical of Islam. In keeping with the Islamist modus operandi, he also paints opponents of radical Islam as Nazis, portrays America as oppressive, denies the religious rationale of Muslim terrorists, and insists that Muslims are victims even when they take part in violent aggression. These factors should have more than disqualified him for the privilege and responsibility of serving on the Electoral College, a key safety valve in the selection of the commander-in-chief.
Siddiqui put himself on the map in 2002, when he sought to derail a talk by Middle East scholar Daniel Pipes at the University of Washington. Slandering him as a “rabid Muslim/Arab hater” who might soon “be in the same company as Hitler,” Siddiqui led a campaign urging organizers to “withdraw your sponsorship or, at the very least, publish a letter expressing regret over this sponsorship. You can also invite a member of the Muslim community to speak for about ten minutes after Pipes has had his day bashing us.” Professor Edward Alexander refused, explaining that under the First Amendment “there is no requirement that a lecture touching on radical Islam must be ‘answered’ by an Islamic radical.”
Siddiqui’s discomfort with free speech resurfaced in 2006, as he chastised Denmark for not prosecuting the publishers of the infamous Muhammad cartoons. Nor was he pleased about Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West being distributed via U.S. newspapers in 2008. Despite purporting to back free speech “without preconditions,” he argued that it “stops at the production of the DVDs” and that “dissemination and promotion of the same is no longer an exercise of freedom of expression” — a disturbingly narrow view of First Amendment rights.
In line with other Islamists, Siddiqui smears all who combat radical Islam. Obsession is “like Hitler’s idea of how to generate hate and violence.” Dutch MP Geert Wilders is “a blond Aryan who would make Nazis proud.” Conservative radio hosts are “on the same track as Hitler.” Anti-Sharia attorney David Yerushalmi’s ultimate goal is to “strike all mosques and all Muslims down.” Most hyperbolically, the designation of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) as an unindicted co-conspirator in a recent terror financing trial is “akin to the Germans pulling in every Jewish head of household to the village square, to find out who killed their soldier and then listing all those Jews as ‘unindicted murderers.’”
Historians studying this period will marvel at our self-indulgent stupidity. We now prefer blind sentimentality to reality, even at the cost of our lives.
As so many fathers in the West used to say:
‘Just keep it up and I’ll give you something to really cry about.’
let’s see…he uses the same rhetoric as almost every poster on PJM. Maybe he doesn’t deserve to be an elector.
Siddiqui’s commentaries provide insight into why the dominant culture of the early 2nd millenium overreached, faltered and eventually became irrelevant. His words provide clear examples of what happens when intellectual inbreeding results in the stagnation of thought and ideas. Our own “progressives” hold their (pardon the term) “ideas” at such a level that there can be no paradigm shift in perspective, they are trapped in the same sort of Mobius loop (as far as ideas and philosophy) that their co-travelers of convenience (radical islamists) have been trapped in for almost 1500 years. The shame is we have a leadership now who’s main priority is to aid the Negusa Nagast in the effort to radically change the society from the inside, that change is to a co-dependent society, not one where the strong protect the weak, but one where all are weak.
EEK! A MOOSLIM! EVERYBODY RUN AND HIDE!!!
Idiots.
I expect nothing more from the Dem party than to use Islamists. The left has made a Faustian deal with the devil for temporary power. They both agree that the total destruction of America is number one on their list of to-dos. I am getting such a kick out of watching these white progressives consort with people who will eventually kill them-figuritively and perhaps literally.
The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.
Got the same crap happening here in Canada.Islam in its current form is like a parasite.It burrows into a culture then finds the cultures sensitives points and denounces them.If folks buy into it,they become demoralized therefore easier to mold in the hands of Islamists.Just check out the black community in the States.Islam in its current form is nothing more than slavery to a faith.Those that want to reform it are labelled as traitors and death threats issued against them.I want no part of an ideology like that.Truth about islam is all around us.Too bad the dumbos on the Left dont get it.
This loser was on the radio in Seattle immediately after 9/11 whining about how muslims were being persecuted (which was 100% false). Not a peep about the victims of the attacks until John Carlson nailed his ass to the wall about it, and then he reluctantly said something mildly (and disingenuously) sort of critical.
Typical Seattle Democrat.
AH yes heres the article i wanted to link to my previous post-
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/technology/Ottawa+prof+charged+deadly+bombing+return+university/1834270/story.html
Islam a friendly religion?I dont think so.
Hmmm, interesting a Muslim afraid of free speech. Could it be that the word is mightier than the sword?
How dare we question the Islamic teachings that call for Sharia over the world with the ‘others’ under it’s rule.
It’s easy people all you have to say is that Allah is the one and only diety and Mohammad his final prophet.
Don’t wanna say that. Ok, dhimmi I’ll just have to charge you a little protection fee cause ya know that according to Allah it would be justifiable to ya know kill you.
That’s moderate Islam, not killing you but allowing you to live as a dhimmi (for now).
And then we have the naysayers and apologists, they don’t really mean it, they can’t be that barbaric, their misunderstood, their victims, it’s their culture, don’t worry, your intolerant, your a bigot, your phobic, don’t believe what you read, don’t believe what you see. All the problems of the world are the west’s fault, all the turmoil in the Middle East is because of the ‘you know who’s’. If only they would cooperate, give up, move away, fall into the sea, whatever.
Let’s listen to them, elect them, kowtow, apologize, bow, scrape, plead, reason, appease, capitulate, ignore, pretend, be silent. Shhhh…
I want to remind everyone that a person being Muslim does not make them an Islamic radical. Clearly the man that is the subject of this article is a prime example of radical, lawless human garbage. I served in Iraq with several Muslim soldiers and they served with honor and distinction and there were many Muslim families with which we interacted whom were the epitomy of graciousness and decency. It is these people that the radicals hold before them as a shield in defense of their own corruption and fetidness.In contrast they use radical corrupt Christians as a battering ram to destroy the image and perception of all good Christian peoples in the world. We must remain vigilant against such misdirection and continue to sort the bad apples lest their rot spoil the entire crop.
Left wingers the world over are used as useful tools by Mohammedans. You see ‘libtards’ dont have the mental capacity to see beyond the ‘Religion of Peace’ Taqqiya that Mohammedans constantly and deceitfully spew. ‘Libtards’ think they are being all cuddly and Multi Culti when instead they are sowing the seeds of their own destruction.
Would someone define a ‘good’ Muslim? Is it someone who emulates Mohammad?
Is it someone who doesn’t believe that Sharia should govern the world? Is it someone who does not think that the Jewish People should be driven into the sea. Is it someone who believes that someone of another faith is a dhimmi.
Define a good Muslim.
Deep Brain Diarist:
You really have to try harder, troll. At least make the effort to appreciate the difference between “Muslim” and “Islamist” before you take another whack at it.
lolz. we hates muzlums. n blaks two. lolz.
This is rather timely, as Prof. Gates recently volunteered to demonstrate how race baiting works, we should also become able to recognize faith baiting when we see it. The schools cannot help us learn to recognize this sort of thing, because they have shackled themselves with speech codes tailored for cowards, so it is up to every one of us to self-educate.
Attend the lectures given by all the scholars Siddiqui hates, visit their websites, read all the books he complains about, watch the DVDs that make him squirm, and you will find out why is so upset: him game is exposed to those who are willing to look, simple as that! His only avenue of action is to milk the useful idiots for what they are worth, preferably useful idiots in high places, of course.
This is why my weapons are well cleaned, oiled and loaded.
what is radical Islam? does it differ from Muhammid’s version of Islam? is there a radical Koran and a non-radical version?
with Muhammid as their baseline…it is blasphemous to then say these guys are “radical”…he is peaceful compared to Muhammid
How about electing a Rabbi Meir Kahani for the electoral college.
This clown is a:
Friend of Obamastan
Enemy of Americans!
Now we have his number.
To Rob #12:
I would like to remind him that not all Germans, Austrians and Germanic-speaking peoples were nazis during WW2. SO WHAT?
So what if they were “hitlerjugen” against the Nuremburg laws.
If you supported hitler in any way shape or form, you were defacto, the enemy until the end of the war. Ditto for ALL mozlems. If they support allah, mohamed,the koran, the sunnah, the sharia, the ummah, the dhimmah, the five pillars of izlam in any way shape or form…..then they are our enemy. PERIOD. Failure to recognize one’s enemy is a disaster waiting to befall all of the unsuspecting fools who believe that everyone who acts nice is our friend. Or they are 1. Not “good or real” mozlems. 2. They are fooling you (taqquiya) 3) fooling themselves or 4. any of combination of the previous 3 categories.
Show me a nazi or Japanese Imperialist who didn’t know how to be nice and polite on a one to one basis.
20 comments. This has got to be one of the stupidest attempts to git yer Arab-hatin’ passel o’ toads all upset over nothin. It’s no wonder they want to chop your cotton-pickin heads off.
Get a life, children.
Its not radical Mohammedans or misunderstanders that are the problem ISLAM is the problem and anyone who does not thinks so obviously has not read the Koran with all its turgid repetition, misogyny , anti semitism and Arab supremacism. The so called moderates are the ones who don’t really understand Islam or more likely are practicing deceit (encouraged by the Koran to promote or defend Islam) to lull the stupid Kaffirs in to a false sense of security so the stealth Jihad can continue and of course PC,MC , left wing moonbats fall for it hook line and sinker. What amazes me is that Gays and Lesbians who are invariably left wingers think that way too how little they know what Islam has in store for them.
Not all Arabs are Muslim and not all Muslims are Arab although conversion by the sword did cause many Arabs to convert or become dhimmis.
Just wanted to point out little minded BritAm’s bigotry, and nice to know she/he’d be cheering at the ‘cotton-pickin’ heads being cut off.
Passin out the sweets after the slaughter BritAm?
Shhh…
#20 How about electing a Rabbi Meir Kahani for the electoral college.
You must be talking about the man who was kicked out of the Israel Government and his party banned as racist. See how things are done differently in Israel. Despite the fact that many so-called Palestinians would la la la sing and pass out sweets on the day the Jewish People were chased into the sea, they still manage to demand civility in their dealings with those who wish them dead.
Amazing that glimmer of light shining in the darkness. Millions of people carrying on with their lives knowing that they are surrounded by other humans who would celebrate their demise. As admirable as that may be what is even more astounding are those who defend most passionately those who promote, teach, and demand that their god rewards those who take part in the annihilation.
If you don’t know the difference between an Arab and a Muslim…
Siddiqui is in the camp of those who would silence the open discussion of Islam. This discussion is necessary because millions of Muslims are using the Qu’ran to justify violence like 9/11. We should know if Islam holds them as correct or not. To date, no major effort from within Islam has been made to kick out the misunderstanders and terrorists.
What’s up with that?
Rob:
You are 100% right. Thank you for pointing that out.
As for the rest of the asshat clowns, the writer goes after a fruit cake muslime who pc’d his way in. Just like the traitor muslime obammy.
REVOLUTION
DH
Criticizing the teachings of Islam is not charging all Muslims with being suicide bombers, or murderers, or accusing them of yearning for the annihilation of the Jewish People and wiping the memory of Israel from the face of the earth.
There is absolutely no question that Allah the god of Islam calls for the destruction of the Jewish People saying that he will not return until the rocks and trees cry out: Here is a Jew! Here is a Jew! Come and kill the Jew!
There are also those who believe that the so-called Palestinians are chosen to fight the Jewish People until the end of human time.
There are also those who believe that the life of Mohammad is ideal, since he is the man chosen by Allah to send his message to the people through the Angel Gabriel.
Mohammad lived by the sword and celebrated blood split in the name of Allah. He also demanded for Allah a share of bounty and pick of the women who were captured during their invasions. Many historians agree that the spread of Islam so quickly and so far in a such a short period of historical time is unprecedented, and although it was touted to have been accomplished peacefully, the truth is finally coming out that spreading Islam through the sword and threat of the sword was practiced (and still is) with the blessing of Allah.
It is prudent that we examine Islam, it’s teachings, keeping in mind that there were many people who were forced to convert or die. That fact that there are dhimmis in the East shows that there are also people who despite living in submission and repression still hold on to their faith bravely living under horrid conditions rather than convert. We should also think about those people, knowing that we might not have been so brave to risk persecution for our own faith.
In any case, silencing the questioning of the Islamic Faith might make some happy but would be a grave mistake for those who have been affected by the teachings of the Islamic Faith. In my opinion, it is the entire world at this point in time, with barely a soul not touched in one way or another.
Dear #5.Deep Brain Diarist:
You say “EEK! A MOOSLIM! EVERYBODY RUN AND HIDE!!!Idiots.”
Of course, we are all idiots. Why should anyone be afraid of Islamists? Well, here’s why:
Islam against:
- the Catholics in the Philippines
- the Christians in Indonesia
- the Buddhists in Thailand
- the Hindus & Sikhs in India
- the Zoroastrians & Bahai in Iran
- the Chaldean Christians in Iraq
- the Jews in Israel
- the Jews in Yemen
- the Coptic Christians in Egypt
- the Christians & animists in Sudan
- the Christians in Nigeria
- the Christians in Zanzibar
- the athiests in Europe
- Parisians in France
- the native Swedes in Malmo
- the native Dutch in the Netherlands
- train commuters in Spain
- tube commuters in London
- airline commuters everywhere
- Dutch cartoonists (death fatwa)
- Dutch politicians Ayann Hirsi Ali & Geert Wilders(death fatwa)
- novelists like Salman Rushdie (death fatwa)
- journalists like Daniel Pearl (decapitated)
- aid workers like Nick Berg (decapitated)
- Polish engineers like Piotr Stanczyk (decapitated)
- S. Korean business man Kim Sun Il (decapitated)
- Paul Johnson (decapitated)
- Scottish airports (fire bombed)
- students at UNC (run over by SUV jihadist)
- office workers in New York (twice)
- defense workers in Washington
- embassy workers in Tanzania & Kenya
- cafe patrons in Bali (blown up, twice)
- women in Sydney (rape brigades)
- women in Sweden (rape brigades)
- Jewish centers in Argentina
- Jewish centers in Mumbai
- Jewish centers in Seattle
- Jewish centers in Toronto
- Jewish centers in Venezuela
- Olympic athletes in Munich
- free speech at the U.N.
- free speech in Canada
- the U.N. Universal Declaration of Human Rights
And on, and on, and on….
Islam is against everything and everyone that is not Islamic on every continent, and has caused immeasurable death and suffering. So damn you and your offensive ridicule, “Deep Brain Diarist”.
~ The Infidel Alliance
The electoral college is a freaking sinecure and formality. This artlcle is nothing but paranoid fearmongering, but this is Pajamas Media where pandering to paranoid know nothings with totally (un)insightful dreck is the main dish.
#23 BritAm – ha ha ha, you fool, it is the throats of Brits they will be cutting long before they try that crap here in America.
Then we will see who is ” … gettin upset over nothin!” Idiot.
Yeah, Infidel Alliance, unlike Republicans, that all inclusive group of open-minded individuals.
The Infidel Alliance:
So he represents all those terrorist groups? Your paranoia is only exceeded by your hypocrisy. Right wingers love to crow about how they don’t care about groups but only individuals, but here you saddle an innocent man with the crimes of all Muslims, but only liberals are racist?
Along with humoring the moronic Palin admirers, ginning up the paranoid with non stories like this is PM main occupation.
Fantasic youtube video – Allah Akbar! Allah Akbar!
Special recommendation to #23. BritAm:
London police runs away from the Muslim mob which is chanting “Allah Akbar” – and chasing the fleeing police!
From EuropeNews webpage:
http://europenews.dk/en/node/18207
Do not miss this street footage on collapsing Britain and the bellowing rage of Muslims!
The main reason why Islamists have been able to infiltrate into the highest recesses of the government is because of the unfathomable fear that multicultural adherents have of being labeled intolerant/bigoted/racist. It is due to this paranoia that many infiltrators have been able to hide in plain sight.
Paul Sperry documents this ghastly situation through his shocking book,Infiltration.
People have NO idea that Islamist sympathizers/terrorists are embedded deep within the bowels of EVERY agency in the US, including the Pentagon and other security services.
It should come as no surprise to learn that plots currently being hatched are fueled from information gleaned from the recesses of US agencies, even those deemed top secret.
#35 Horace Wells,
The only man I would saddle with the crimes of all Muslims is the proto-Muslim terrorist Muhammed.
Islam’s “perfect man”, Islam’s “holy prophet”, the man whom Islam’s “holy” Koran fetes as “an excellent model of conduct” was a sadistic sociopath, a murderer, a slaver, a mutilator, a decapitator, a torturer, a rapist, a looter & a thief, a sexual predator, a sexual deviant, a paedophile rapist, a sex trafficker, a liar, a mysogynist, an amputator, a genocidist, motivated by greed, power & unquenchable lust.
This Muhammed, perhaps one of the most vile men in the pantheon of human history, forcibly subjugated, converted or killed thousands of people. He commanded his minions to follow his example, and they did, and still do, resulting in the slaughter and misery of millions of people (see above list).
Muhammed set the standard for all Muslims. And while I don’t think Mr. “Jeff” Siddiqui represents all those terrorist groups, I know that all those terrorist groups and Mr. Siddiqi are linked by 3 common bonds:
1) Muhammed
2) Muhammeds book, the Koran
3) Muhammeds examples, the Ahadith
So, no, Mr. Siddiqui does not represent all those terrorist groups, but he does support the same terrorist that inspires them….Muhammed.
And if he supports Muhammed, he also supports the prime directive of Muhammed: forcibly convert, subjugate or kill all non-Muslims and conquer all non-Muslim lands, so that religion will be one for Allah.
I didn’t make up that list of global Islamic terrorism. I just compiled it. It was created by Islamist. Not Buddhists, not Christianists, not Hinduists, not Baha’iists…Islamists.
Nor did I make up those descriptions of the barbarian Muhammed. They are there, recorded for posterity in black & white in the Koran and the Ahadith for all the world to see.
Any man, like Mr. Siddiqi, that reveres a sociopath like Muhammed – who makes Charles Manson look like a schoolboy – has a twisted sense of values and is dangerous.
~ The Infidel Alliance
P.S. –
Islam is not a race, it is an ideology.
Standing against the barbarity of Islam is not racist, it is humanist.
And I failed to mention: the biggest victims of Islam are Muslims themselves, trapped in this barbaric death cult by Muhammeds deadly catch 22: “The Messenger of Allah (Muhammed) said, “Whoever changes his (Islamic) religion, kill him.” Al-Bukhary (number 6922)”
~ The Infidel Alliance
One thing I am sure of: that’s of the sad and bloody results of the Danish Prophetic cartoons. I see Siddiqi right on this point. I was in Mosul in the time those cartoons were published and was in company with Cgristian friends who were giving the last look to a monk who was killed by Ansar Al-Islam or Jaish Al-Mujahideen..there are so many groups then. Next day, I talked to an ex-student in the College of Political Science on the killing of the monk. He said they could not get the Danish cartoonist nor the Pope so they kill their followers. Crowds at the same time burned shops selling Danish cheese and two churches were put to fire.
My point is that the Danish cartoonist was like a child having a lolipop in mouth thinking that all the world is sweet. He didn’t think of consequences or of the cast of mind of Moslems, the collective and public response that would be equally irrational. You cannot insult a cow everywhere in India!
There were families queing for relief at the Norwegian Embassy in Damascus which was set fire to and those refugee-seeking children and women were forced to wait for months.
let’s ask ourselves one question who propogated hatred? The Moslems or the danish cartoonists? No wonder that voices are heared even in the USA against such hooliganism commited in the name of democracy and free-expression!
#41 Salah Ali,
The answer to your question is “the Moslems”. Absolutely. Hands down. With out a doubt.
If your implication is that cartoons were responsible for the resulting death, destruction & carnage, they were not. Followers of Muhammed, “Moslems” as you call, them were.
A cartoon can not start a building on fire. A cartoon can’t smash a storefront window. A cartoon can’t set a parked car ablaze. A cartoon can’t kill a Christian monk . A cartoon can’t burn a church.
Those are willful & wanton acts of followers of Muhammed, your “Moslems”, following the hateful, violent, intolerant examples if Islam’s al-insan al-kamil, Muhammed.
What a cartoon can do is tell the truth. A drawing of Muhammed with a bomb in his turban tells a story that is 100% true in it’s simple message: That Muhammed himself was an Islamic terrorist.
“Allah’s Apostle (Muhammed) said… ‘I have been made victorious with terror’” – Bukhari (52:220). Why would Muhammed say this? Was he just joking? Was he lying? Or was he in fact a terrorist as he himself admits?
I don’t think he was joking or lying, which leave only the inescapable truth that he was a terrorist. A cartoon that depicts Muhammed as a terrorist is conveying a truth.
Your “Moslems” who follow the example of their perfect man and destroy, maim, burn, kill and terrorize also convey a truth.
The truth is that Muhammed is despicable man who should be reviled, not revered. His barbarian hate & violence cult called Islam should be exposed for the sadistic dogma that it is.
If you are implying that everything will be all right if we just respect Islam, I say you are wrong and that Islam does not deserve respect from anyone. Should we respect the actions and teachings of Charles Manson? No. Why then should we respect the teachings and actions of Muhammed who was a hundred times more vile?
The violence perpetrated by Islamists in response to the Dutch cartoons only proves that there must be a thousand more cartoons drawn.
Islam deserves the respect of no one.
~ The Infidel Alliance
Greetings folks!
It seems that the keeper of this website and the people who respond to his posts, have an excessively fertile imagination; truth being no obstacle to whipping up figures (like myself), as treacherous killers waiting to do you and your families in.
There was a culture some time ago, that began with whipping up hate against another group before going full-bore and slaughtering them in the name of “defending the homeland”. The same culture had a predominence of sincere people who followed their hate-fillede leaders.
When people stop discussing openly and prefer to shoot from behind bushes, with imaginative postings such as this website, then Old Man Hate has truly won.
If any of you really want to understand how similar Islam is to Judaism, then don’t read ignoratnt, fantasy-filled bile as written by “The Infidel Alliance” and his ilk; start with a book by Rabbi Reuven Firestone, “Children of Abraham; an Introduction to Judaism for Muslims”. This book was commissioned and published by the American Jewish Committee, the book serves well to help Muslims understand Judaism and Jews understand Islam.
As for me; any fool can write anything about me and many have. Extremely few have ever sought to check them out by contacting me, prefering the stuffiness of their closed and prejudiced minds.
Rob stated “I want to remind everyone that a person being Muslim does not make them an Islamic radical.”
What I wonder is what attitude moderate Muslims would take were Sharia to threaten America. Would they stand up and fight for the freedoms and rights of non Muslims? I haven’t seen a lot of standing up, even now, when it is relatively safe to take a stand. We don’t have to guess. We have history to teach us.
To the Infidel Alliance:
I would say that you are exaggerating: First you cannot answer hatred with hatred. if Islam is a religion of hatred, you augment hatred by challanging Moslems. Islam is everywhere in the world, by attacking Islam you only antagonize Moslems. You provide no solution. you criticise clode-midedness and prejudice but can’t you see that in putting yourself above history and judging a whole religion as wrong you are prejudiced yourself?
Being Moslem, Sunni and Arab myself, educated in the West, I can assure you that Islam is being grossly misunderstood by the West. Both language barrier and contamination blind you from understanding the word of God (Allah Rabbu Al-Alameen). I see you as submerged in dirt: Moral dirt: You eat pig, you do not care when your women are taken to bed by somebody else, you drink wine and you are blinded by machines and consumption. You ignore Arabic which is the key to the Holy Qur’an..and you kill in cold blood.
The cartoons are false depiction of a great man, our prophet of wisdom and light (PBH) Muhammad. You hate Islam because it resists you and you call you call this resistance Terrorism. Who is the terrorists: Those who used WMD in Iraq and Gaza or those who lied on their people telling them Iraq has such weapons? Ask yourself and enjoy an iota of honosty to tell the truth. I met Prof. Melton Cowan in Bath in 1980: I asked him why he embraced Islam? He said: Cleanliness, and cleanliness of body and spirit. We consider lying, cowardness, stealing, backbiting, swindling etc rajs of satan. You steal, tell lies and are cowards! You stand for the devil, we stand for the religion of our great ancesters ibrahim, Muhammad and Jesus whose revelations your ancesters had distorted.
last and not least: shame on you and shut up!
Dear #43 Jeff Siddiqui,
Thank you for engaging in this discussion.
You state that postings here are the result of an “excessively fertile imagination”. I can’t vouch for the other commentators, but I know my posts are supported by facts, not imagination.
As far as I can tell, no one here has accused you of being a “treacherous killer”. It is clear, however, that you are an Islamist, and Islamists support Muhammeds teachings. Muhammed taught in word & deed to kill, maim, torture, mutliate, enslave, rape, decapitate, and convert, subjugate or kill all non-Muslims so all religion will be for Allah.
If you believe this ideology, you have a clearly dangerous set of values. If you do not believe this, you are engaging in taqiyya or are an apostate. So which one is it?
You are correct when you state “There was a culture some time ago, that began with whipping up hate against another group before going full-bore and slaughtering them..” That culture is Islam, it’s founder was Muhammed, and the full-bore slaughter was against the Jews, Christians and Pagans of the Arabian peninsula, then later the Zoroastrians, Hindus, Sikhs & Buddhists. It’s the truth, recorded in black & white in your Islamic source texts the Koran, Ahadith & Sira.
While I realize you intended to reference the NAZI’s, your description holds perfectly true for Islam, which also has “a predominence of sincere people who followed their hate-fillede leaders.” How else can you explain the Islamic violence perpetrated globally by Islamists rich & poor, black, white & brown, Asian, African, Middle Eastern & European, Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Salafist, Wahabbi?
Indeed, by your own implication, you are one of those “sincere people” that you reference. Those, who while not engaged directly in the killing and terror, support and defend the ideology behind it and the “hate-fillede leaders” behind it.
I will read with an open mind the book you recommended, but I will always rely on the Koran, Ahadith & Sira as the primary, indeed ultimate authority on Islam. That is what followers of Islam do, correct?
You characterize my comments as “ignoratnt, fantasy-filled bile”. As stated previously, my comments are supported by FACTS from referenced sources, not fantasy. I challenge you, Mr. Siddiqui, to point out the SPECIFIC comments you find so fantastic, false or ignorant.
And since you requested that we contact you directly with inquiries, I have the following that I would kindly ask that you clarify:
1) Do you believe the Koran is the direct & immutable word of Allah, and that its expressions must be taken literally and absolutely, or do you think the Koran is written by men, is fallible, and subject to interpretation?
2) Do you believe Muhammed was “an excellent model of conduct” as stated in Koran 33:21?
3) Do you think chopping off peoples heads, ampotating peoples limbs, burning peoples eyeballs out with hot iron pokers, marrying little 6 year old girls, having sex with 9 year old girls, stealing & looting other peoples private property, enslaving people, forcing women into sexual servitude, and committing genocide (all things Muhammed did) are excellent examples of human conduct?
4) Muhammed mandated “Whoever changes his (Islamic) religion, kill him.” Al-Bukhary (6922). Do you support this mandate of Muhammed, or do you reject this mandate and render yourself apostate?
Thank you Mr. Siddiqui. We all look forward to you reply.
~ The Infidel Alliance
(standing up for those oppressed by Islam, the Jews, Christians, Hindus, Baha’i, Sikhs, Zoroastrians, athiests, homosexuals, women, children….and importantly Islam’s most oppressed group, apostate Muslims)
Dear ##43 Jeff Siddiqui,
One more thought….
I will admit that I have been ignorant, imaginative & prejudiced about Islam. But that was back when I thought Islam was just like all other religions, when I thought Muhammed was a holy prophet, when I thought Islam was a noble religion.
But I was never closed minded.
I cured my ignorance, imagination & prejudice about Islam by not listening to the spin, but by actually reading the primary Islamic source texts, by learning about the life of Muhammed, and by studying the historical expansion of Islam.
I’m sorry to disappoint you, but I (and a growing number of infidels and Muslims) am no longer ignorant, imaginative or prejudiced about Islam. I have found that when it comes Islam, “res ipsa loquitur”.
~ The Infidel Alliance
Dear #45. Salah Ali:
Thank you for staying engaged in this discussion.
You state that I am answering “(Islamic terrorist)hatred with hatred”. I am actually answering Islamic terrorist hatred simply with facts and the truth.
I challenge Moslems because they must be challenged – they must face the ugly truth about Muhammed and his violent ideology, and either support it or reject it. There is no middle ground. Islamist or apostate. Believer in Muhammed & the Koran or rejector of Muhammed & the Koran.
My solution to end Islamic violence is simply to expose the truth. When ignorant infidels and Muslims discover the reality of Islam and its barbarian “prophet” Muhammed, they will ultimately and rightfully reject it.
I am not judging the whole religion of Islam, only the supremecist violent parts (which is the bulk of it). I know the Meccan period of early Islam was relatively benign. The Medinan period, however, and the rest of Islamic history since then has been blood soaked in Koranic sanctioned murder and terror.
I am not “putting myself above history”, whatever that means, but rather reading the history that is recorded in Islams own books. If the history is repulsive to you, then so must be your religion.
These are FACTS.
I agree with you when you say “Islam is being grossly misunderstood by the West”. It is. Most people in the West ignorantly think Islam is a “religion of peace”, but it is not. Most people in the West naively think Muhammed was a holy prophet, but he really just a successful Charles Manson, sadistic, violent, and sexually perverted.
Muhammed should be reviled, not revered. Instead of being venrated, he should have been incarcerated, just like Manson.
The West needs to know the truth and understand the reality of Islam, not the spin from Islamic propagandists like you & Mr. Siddiqui.
Your assertion that people can’t understand Koranic Islam unless they understand the Arabic language is simply a stupid assertion. If that is what you believe, then most Moslems don’t understand Islam, because most Moslems (Indonesians, Malysians, Indian, Persian, etc) don’t speak Arabic.
You accuse me of hatred, yet I have not said a single word promoting hate. I have simply spoken FACTS & TRUTH. Your Islamic hatred of us infidel kafir comes through loud and clear, however, with your words of contempt.
You have made 3 important statements that reinforce what I have been saying:
1) You believe that Muhammed was “a great man, our prophet of wisdom and light (PBH)”. Thus, you think the values of a sadistic, murdering, looting, sexual deviant are admirable.
2)You state “You hate Islam because it resists you and you call you call this resistance Terrorism.” Islam doesn’t “resist” me as you suggest, but rather wants to subjugate or kill me and all non-Muslims like me. Islam has no respect for individual human rights, only Islamic rights. That is why I find Islam so detestable, and that is why I WILL NOT SUBMIT.
3) You berate us infidel kafir for killing, lying and stealing, yet that is exactly what your un-holy prophet Muhammed did….and much worse. If Sharia law was to apply to Muhammed, he would have had his hands & feet amputated from opposite sides of his body, crucified, or killed, whipped or stoned to death.
In comparing Muhammed to Jesus, it is clear that Muhammed was the exact opposite of everything Jesus taught and did. Muhammed is, in all actuality, the anti-Jesus, or as some might say the anti-Christ.
When a Muslim realizes that he cannot defend the indefensible actions and teachings of his “prophet”, when he realizes that killing, decapitating, amputating, stealing, raping and enslaving are not admirable qualities, in spite of what their Koran says, he will usually do one of two things – riot, burn, terrorize and murder, or as you did, tell the messenger “shame on you and shut up!”
This is why Islam deserves no respect from anyone. It is a “religion” built on two great lies:
Big Lie #1: Muhammed was a holy man. The truth is that he was a barbarian sociopath.
Big Lie #2: Islam is a “religion of peace”. The truth is that Islam is a religion of terror.
Only truth deserves respect.
~ The Infidel Alliance
(standing up for victims of Islamic beheadings, acid attacks, suicide bombings, homosexual killings, limb amputations, “honor” killings, religious intolerance and hatred)
To the bloody, ignorant and impudent infidel alliance:
You say your sources are the Holy Qur’an and the Sunnah (Traditions). But you didn’t tell how you read them: in Arabic or English? Arabic and the sacred text are insparable and form in the Qur’an has its meaning. We read the Qur’an and we believe in every single word there in. If you read it in translations and you are not Moslem, you cannot understand it. so your judgements will be impressionistic and distorted. The Qur’an is the word of God because the revelation and knowledge it harbours traverses the life of any single human being. muhammad (PBH) was a shepherd, illiterate and the Qur’an was transmitted to him by revelation. There are so many books by Arberry, Nicholson, Corbin, Sayyed hussein Nasr that come in commentation of only one or another aspect of the Qur’an. Islam spans the worls, and you cannot say all those Moslems are ignorant without any proof just your own interpretations of translations. The cutting off of heads and acts of terror are being committed by Black Water in Iraq. If some pervert relish killing in the name of Islam, you are mistaken to say that Islam encourages killing. All verses in the qur’an have contextual and situational tags to them and no one is given full authority to go ahead with one-sided interpretation. I read the Qur’an many times and found that it honours human life and equates the killing of a single soul to the killing of all mankind.
your statements are full of hatred…and it wins you no love or respect.So would you through all that you said in the nearest trashbin and stop smearing angels and prophets..
Dear #49. Salah Ali:
I read the Koran in English, with the translation in the column right next to the original Arabic. My Koran was published by an Islamic publisher. To say that the Koran can only be understood in Arabic is patently stupid.
If the Koran can only understood by reading it in Arabic, and if you can’t read it in Arabic you are not Muslim, then the worlds 1.2 billion Muslims just shrunk down to about .2 billion. I have been to many Islamic countries, and most of the Muslims I encountered could not read Arabic. None of my Muslim friends can read it either. So they must not be real Muslims.
And I must ask: If the barbarian prophet Muhammed was illiterate, how would he know if what was written was actually what he said?
You say “If some pervert relish killing in the name of Islam, you are mistaken to say that Islam encourages killing.” Oh really? Let’s see what the pervert Allah and his pervert prophet Muhammed has to say about killing:
Koran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” (DEMANDS VIOLENCE FROM MUSLIMS)
Koran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” (KILLING BY DECAPITATION & MUTILATION)
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so KILL him.” (MUHAMMED SANCTIONS THE KILLING OF JEWS)
Tabari (7:97) – “The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, “Kill any Jew who falls under your power.” (MUHAMMED SANCTIONS THE KILLING OF JEWS)
Tabari (9:69) – “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” (MUHAMMED SANCTIONS THE KILLING OF INFIDELS)
Ibn Ishaq (327) – “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”
(SANCTIONS THE SLAUGHTER OF ALL INFIDELS)
And on, and on, and on…..
I don’t care about winning love or respect. I only care about facts and truth, and defending those who are targeted by Islam.
I think I will stop by the trashbin as you suggest…and that’s exactly where I’ll toss my copy of Muhammeds Islamic war manual, the Koran.
~ The Infidel Alliance
I’m glad to see the Obama administration has finally decided to stop using the term “war on terror”. This was never the appopriate descriptor.
What we are really facing is the Islamic World (the Islamic nations, Islamic NGO jihadists, and the borderless Islamic ummah) against the non-Islamic world. Dar al-Islam against dar al-Harb.
With every strata of Islam aligned against targets in every continent except Antarctica, against every non-Islamic society, religion & culture, it is much greater than a “war on terror”.
What we are in the midst of is the ISLAMIC WORLD WAR.
Started by Muhammed. Mandated in the Koran. The mosque the command post. The clerics the commanders. The ummah the foot soldiers.
I know “Jeff” Saddiqui & Salah Ali will laugh it off as an absurd comment from an ignorant islamophobe. But look at the FACTS:
1) The barbarian “prophet” Muhammed started it.
2) Muhammeds war manual, the Koran, demands it.
3) For 1,400 years Muhammeds minions have been doing it.
4) They continue doing it to this very day, against every non-Islamic culture on every continent. (see comment #31 above)
“Phobia” means an irrational fear of something. Recognizing the danger of Islam is completely rational, however, thus there is nothing “phobic” about it.
The ISLAMIC WORLD WAR – it’s real.
Dear #43. Jeff Siddiqui:
Greetings!
You invited us to ask you questions directly. I did.
Where are your answers?
I took your challenge seriously, and have been waiting patiently for your answers. This is a serious request, because I would truly like an Islamist or a Muslim, to clarify those points for me to dispel my apparent ignorance.
I look forward to your reply.
Best regards,
~ The Infidel Alliance
I didn’t think #43 Jaffar “Jeff” Siddiqui would have the spine to reply, as it would reveal the truth about his Islamist agenda.
Jaffar “Jeff” “Greetings folks!” Siddiqui.
Stealth jihadist.
Do they have anything in common?