The Honduran Elections: Persistent Courage Trumps Attempted Tyranny
With better than 61 percent participation, the Nationalist candidate Porfirio Lobo won approximately 56 percent of the vote — beating his principal rival, Elvin Santos, by approximately 200,000 votes. Santos conceded the election at 11:25 p.m. on Sunday in a very gracious speech.
The Honduran elections, planned long before the June 28 “coup” removing President Manuel Zelaya, went forward as scheduled. Pursuant to the Honduran constitution, control over the military had been turned over to the electoral tribunal on October 28. The military transported the ballots to the five thousand voting locations, many of which are in quite inaccessible areas:
To transport the material available 108 trucks, 225 light vehicles, two planes, four helicopters and 17 boats, all owned by the [military].
But to meet the goal light trucks will join the 840 other state institutions and 25 containers of 40 feet must be rented by the TSE [and] over 15 mules, also rented to drive the material to areas inaccessible by car.
There has been some carping about the “militarization” of the elections, but the use of military to help carry out the election is mandated not only by Article 272 of the Honduran constitution, but also by Article 4 of the October 30 accord.
By Friday, November 27, the resistance movement seemed to be fading into something approaching oblivion, although it called for the suspension of the elections pending the reinstatement of Zelaya. The sale of alcoholic beverages was prohibited from 6:00 a.m. on November 28 through 6:00 p.m. on November 30, as is common in much of Latin America. A laboratory for making bombs of the sort recently used against the Supreme Court building was seized by police on November 28. There were other minor incidents as well. Various artifacts establishing a link to the “resistance” were found. On election day, more than thirty weapons and explosives were found and confiscated. A candidate for local office, who had been a Zelaya supporter but decided to support the elections, received death threats from the “resistance” which characterized her as a traitor.
Zelaya stated on November 28 that he feels alone and isolated but “will defend this mandate, I am not willing to negotiate my position.” The Honduran borders with El Salvador and Nicaragua were closed, apparently by mutual consent, “to avoid any problems or speculation.” By the afternoon of November 28, there seemed to be a sense of resignation on the part of Zelaya and his supporters.
U.S. Ambassador Hugo Llorens visited several poling sites in Tegucigalpa, and “besides stressing normalcy and calm with which elections are being developed … lauded the ‘housekeeping’ of the electoral process.” By most accounts, the elections were peaceful, fair, and transparent. Even the head of the principal leftist party voted and urged others to do so, claiming (rather strangely) that not to vote would be supportive of the “coup.” One minor problem did develop: The fingers of those who vote were to be marked with indelible ink, and in the afternoon supplies were running short in some places due to the heavy voting. The supplies were replenished promptly. “Five hours … [after] the election started, thousands of Hondurans [were] still standing in line at polling stations in order to exercise their right to vote.”
Many Hondurans in the United States voted in Miami, New York, and in other population centers. In New York, some two thousand were expected to vote. Many had to come from as far away as Boston.
Hurray for elections under martial law!
“Martial law” meaning “Hondurans followed the Honduran Constitution”.
Gotta love that Newspeak!
Bravo to Hondurans for sticking up for democracy, the rule of law and their constitution.
And thumbs down to ignorant people like Obama who supported Zelaya. What did Zelaya do? He violated the constitution and rule of law. He attempted to carry out an illegal vote to enable him to have a second (and more) term as president. The Honduran Constitution allows only one term.
Zelaya tried to get a referendum on this; the Congress and Supreme Court ruled against it. Since no printer in Honduras would do the job, Zelaya got the ballots printed up in his buddy Chavez’s totalitarian Venezuala and tried to get the military to distribute them in Honduras. The military refused and Congress, including members of Zelaya’s own party and the Supreme Court, removed Zelaya from office for violating the rule of law.
This was not a coup! It followed the rule of law, judging someone who was violating that law and the constitution.
And, pragmatist, you are being decidely unobservant of reality; Honduras was most certainly not under martial law. Don’t you support the Honduran constitution? Or are you a Zelaya and Chavez follower?
Don’t you mean Viva La Revolucion? How about a chorus of the man is standing on my neck? Martial law indeed. Ask the Venezuelans about martial law and loss of liberties. And Presidents who serve for life.
Well, like the saying goes “If its stupid and it works then it isn’t stupid”. Not a bad turnout, its seems fairly above-board and follows the Hondouran Constitution, so ok by me and the international observers.
If only our government would follow its Constitution like the Honduran people did.
I’m often surprised at the deviation between reality and perception. For instance, it was the interim government of Honduras itself which called it “martial law”.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/28/honduras-suspends-civil-liberties-zelaya
The government announced the decree in a nationwide broadcast, saying it was “to guarantee peace and public order in the country and due to the calls for insurrection that Mr Zelaya has publicly made”.
The measure empowers police and soldiers to arrest without a warrant “any person who poses a danger to his own life or those of others”, although unlike martial law, it requires that anyone arrested be turned over to civilian prosecutors.
Silly people. Bring back literacy tests for voting, I say.
x2, Phranc.
“The greatest threat to democracy in Latin America comes from its presidents, who once in office try to change the rules in order to remain in power permanently.”
Hmm, twice elected conservative president of Colombia and now considering running for a third term, Alvaro Uribe, immediately comes to mind, but did not make this list. Why is that?
thanks Dan Millar for this article.
Thank you Dan for continuing to follow this story. I’m too old/slow to start learning how to read between the MSM lines, like former citizens of the USSR, to squeeze any truth out of Pravda.
goy – this was a short-term action by the government taken after Zelaya sneaked back into the country to hide in the Brazilian embassy; the Honduran govt had told him that IF he returned, he’d have to face criminal charges of attempting to hold an illegal referendum.
But Zelaya, ousted in June, was fomenting rebellion via Chavez and other countries. The curfew was put in place in July; Zelaya returned at the end of September, and immediately, from the Brazilian embassy, began to foment rebellion against the govt, calling on his supporters to stage mass marches, calling that he had to be reinstated; that the current govt had to fall. Oh, and saying that the scheduled elections would be unacceptable.
Again, what pro-Zelaya supporters do not acknowledge is Zelaya’s open attempt to subvert the constitution and rule of law. Both the Supreme Court and the Congress rejected any attempt to change the constitution to permit Zelaya a second or third term. He refused to abide by their will. When ousted, again, by rule of law, he attempted to foment a coup against the government and prevent the forthcoming elections. Any curfews and ‘martial law’ was taken as a reaction to Zelaya’s attempts to create a crisis in the country. It was lifted November 23rd.
Now the big question is which countries will recognize the new government with Lobo as president, beginning on January 27 for a single term of four years. The United States will do so, as will Panamá and Colombia, both of which sent special ambassadors to Honduras to observe the elections. Peru probably will do so as well.
Yet this morning the Seattle Times told us that Most regional leaders, who condemned the coup, have said they don’t plan to recognize the election. The United States had said it would recognize the winner, then backtracked. The Times article was striking for its disappointment that the election was widely attended AND not violent, and did its best to hide the fact that Zelaya was not removed by a military coup, but by joint action of the Honduran Legislature and Supreme court.
The media wing of the Democratic Party are still in full-support mode for Obama’s buddy Chavez and his proxy Zelaya.
…although unlike martial law, it requires that anyone arrested be turned over to civilian prosecutors.
Yes, do let us work on that whole literacy problem. In Newspeak, saying that something is “unlike martial law” is an admission that it is martial law. What a wonderfully fluid tool that Newspeak is!
I knew and told you that the Honduran crisis was going to be resolved with the 11/29 election.
Congratulations, Porfirio Lobo Sosa.
Martin, that actually made me laugh out loud. This is like saying that in 1st degree murder, unlike 2nd degree murder, there is premeditation. Its still murder. If you have any sense at all, you’ll take this as an opportunity to explore a deeper level of thinking…next time visit the link:
The decree states that the country’s national telecommunications commission, known as Conatel, is authorised “through police and the armed forces … to immediately suspend any radio station, cable or television network whose programming does not comply with these regulations”.
Yeah, totally not martial law, lol. You indict your own dedication to democracy with such noodle-headed stands.
There is absolutely no truth whatever to the rumor that this video depicts Zelaya as a young boy.
On the other hand. . . .
moho,
You missed this part:
For instance, it was the interim government of Honduras itself which called it “martial law”.
Next time, somewhere in your deep thinking, try reading the whole thread. Was this martial law? That’s a serious question.
But did the Hoduras government call it martial law, as Goy claimed? Not from the evidence he cited. The evidence cited, in fact, says the exact opposite. And nowhere in the article does it back him up, either.
Goy’s “proof” that the elections were held under martial law was not “hey, the government had to call out the troops”. His “proof” was “Hey, THEY called it ‘martial law’.” I know that following a comment thread can get complicated. But clearly Goy refuted himself with his own quote, as I showed.
I’m sorry it annoys you that the Honduran people followed their Constitution and elected their own leaders. Sometimes that happens.
Goy,
Bring back the literacy test for posters, or the attention span test.
i have lived in central America for over 6 years now. i own multiple properties in Nicaragua. i have driven the entire length from the states to panama. here is what i see and suggest.
honduras and salvador are the most anti communist nations in central america. that is by eyeball.
despite oretega, raul and hugo, communists are a minority in nicaragua, cuba and venezula. that is by eyeball.
the elections the left win are nunca limpia, never clean. that is by eyeball.
the number one way to expose this is for a coalition of real, rasmussen type polling. consistent rolling average polls published with internal data weekly from each country with hired independent auditors. that is the sole solution.
cnn, fox, pjm sending stringers are no more accurate than reuters stringers in gaza and lebanon. get real. it is eyeball opinion. hell cnn sends in the daughter of a powerful sandanista family and call it news. pjm is no better. picking and choosing who to publish
publish numbers supported with the internal data. that is real power. that is stuff that will be picked up and is believable.
repeated errors, yes most by dems from JFK on have encouraged communists. however do not discount the negative effect of the american right wingers. i live with Sandinistas and liberals, liberals here are the right wingers, alike. the one thing they all say, is sure cuba and russia sent guns, the usa sent guns, but cuba and russia sent doctors and teachers too. now the usa sends everything from wannabe save the world moron evangelicals jesus sales merchants to liberation lefty university idiots.
what is needed is world published data on what the people in each country believe. that is the discussion ender. that shuts up the obamacons and the dumbazzz gringo wall builders. scientifically poll central America. for crying out, all yer other crap is nothing but empty air. we are just short of a shooting war here and the people here need real info not all this opinion crap.
for those of you with connections to those pollster types, i plead to you. for once be effective. find something real, and supportable to publish. last week 40,000 anti communists marched in managua. any of you hear about it?
freaking help already
El día de ayer, 29 de Diciembre día de las elecciones para Presidente en Honduras, la periodista colombiana, Patricia Janiot, de su propia voz, y de manera irresponsable, comentó que los militares habían reprimido al Movimiento de la Resistencia en el centro de la cuidad de San Pedro Sula, Honduras, porque este había tratado de tomarse algunos centros de votación. Esta noticia es totalmente falsa, porque yo, una Ingeniera y abuela de 53 años, precisamente estaba participando de forma pacífica y entonando nuestro Himno Nacional, junto a un millar de simpatizantes de la Resistencia, para protestar por las elecciones ilegales que habían sido convocadas, cuando de repente, la tanqueta militar donada por el Gobierno Israelí en las últimas semanas del Golpe Militar en nuestro país, arremetió contra nosotros lanzándonos bombas lacrimógenas y aguas cloacales para poder dispersarnos, razón por la cual tuvimos que correr velozmente y poner a salvo nuestras vidas. A estos gorilas desquiciados, no les importó que reporteros de la Prensa Internacional estuviesen acompañándonos, para transmitir al mundo cómo se desarrollaba nuestra marcha, incluso llegaron a abrirle la cabeza a un reportero extranjero, a quien también detuvieron, supongo que horas más tarde lo habrán dejado libre. Qué lástima que la Janiot no transmitiera esta última noticia, será porque le estaba haciendo el juego a los golpistas en Tegucigalpa; yo tenía otro concepto de esta periodista, debió haber sido más responsable y contrastar primero la noticia antes de sacarla al aire. Espero que no dejen de publicar mi reclamo; estoy muy molesta porque yo, al igual que otros compañeros fuimos víctimas de la represión militar sin sentido, ayer en San Pedro Sula. Atentamente,Vianney Henríquez P.
Truly a victory for Honduras!
By the mere act of flocking to the polls, Hondurans expressed en masse their support for their nation’s democratic institutions. They rejected Zelaya’s call for boycotting the election, implicitly rejecting Zelaya and his designs. It’ll be hard for other nations -in the name of democracy- to continue supporting Zelaya whilst ignoring a free and fair election, where the winner garnered 1.5 million of over 2.8 million votes cast.
Zelaya grossly overestimated his compatriots’ appetite for revolution. He thought he could pull a Chavez in Honduras. But Hondurans took a good look at the misery Venezuelans are suffering, and have now said thanks. When power is finally transferred to the democratically elected President Lobo, Zelaya will become irrelevant, a sad footnote in the history of Honduras.
Curiously, the mainstream media, which loudly advertised Zelaya’s ouster in the so-called coup, has been relatively quiet about the election results. I wonder, does the MSM miss the Zelaya controversy… or do they miss Zelaya himself? Is it just that the lack of blood on the streets makes this no longer interesting …or are they reluctant to admit the defeat of a rising left-wing star?
Glad this turned out well. I felt our prez really left a good friend out in the cold. All they did was stop the next Chavez from gaining power. Go figure.
Vianney — no tomaron fotos con sus celulares? Ni una persona? O es que no paso como dice Ud?
generally this publication is thought of as a leftest rag. so likely it is minimized.
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Thousands March in Rival Nicaraguan Rallies
MANAGUA – Thousands of pro- and anti-government protesters took to the streets of Nicaragua’s capital over the possible re-election of Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega.
At least 40,000 anti-government demonstrators rallied Saturday in one area of Managua, marching against what they called Mr. Ortega’s attempt to set up a dictatorship.
The rally marked the anniversary of last year’s municipal elections. Opposition supporters say President Ortega’s Sandinista National Liberation Front won the elections by fraud.
In another part of the capital, Sandinista party supporters held a separate rally to show their continued support of President Ortega.
Nicaraguan police stepped up security, but there were no reports of clashes between the two groups.
The country’s supreme court ruled last month that Mr. Ortega could run in the 2011 presidential election, striking down a constitutional prohibition on a president running for a second consecutive term.
Nicaragua currently allows its presidents to serve two non-consecutive five-year terms. Mr. Ortega served his first term as president starting in 1985. He was defeated for re-election in 1990, but began serving a second term in 2007 after winning a second term in national elections.
gc
the supreme court ruling took place while the liberal judges were out of the country so there was a Sandinista majority. note the similarities between actions in Latin America by communists and democrats. attack the media. own education. subvert the vote. it is always about control.
It is common in Latin America to distort the truth of the news. Everyone has its own version. I don’t find anyone credible.
This will eventually change as technology advances and is spread around.
Good article by Daniel Duquenal down in Venezuela about Brazilian President Lula’s remarks to the Iberoamerican summit at Estoril on the Honduran elections.
I want everyone to see what continues here.
Look at the leftist post in this thread. Read the original article again and even re read some of the articles of the Honduran constitution if you need a refresher.
The Military of the Honduras is tasked with several things by law or order of congress that in many larger countries most would find unusual.
However this is out of necessity in many cases as the military is the only entity in this small country that has the manpower and the equipment to get the job at hand done.
The military is instructed by the Honduran Constitution to preserve that very constitution and actions they took several months ago were following these guidelines as well as legal instructions from the Honduran congress and Honduran supreme court. With the one exception of the decision to exile Zelaya instead of simply arresting him they have conducted themselves within their constitutional mandate and as requested by the judicial and executive branches of their government. Remember that Zelaya’s own party members of congress voted to remove him due to his own unlawful actions.
There is no question that Zelaya was in violation of the Honduran constitution. That is a fact.
Spin what you may leftist, it does not change the facts. Too many people of the world now can see facts for themselves as long as the leftist can not shut down free speech on the internet..which they attempt to do.
For all the ignorant leftist mouthpieces that want to cry “Military Coup” I challenge them to show proof that the military has at any time been in control of the country.
Just because there is a military presence does not mean they have taken over in jackboot thug like fashion which so many leftist dictators , and leftist sympathizers, seem to prefer.
The Civilian interim government led by Roberto Micheletti has been the entity leading the country from the time of the former presidents removal. Never and in no way has the military assumed control of the governing apparatus.
The Micheletti government saw to it that the funding for the elections was restored, which Zelaya had denied as part of his effort to remain in power illegally. Probably a trick he learned from the U.S. congress no doubt, if Zelaya did not fund the elections then they could not have gone forward…which would have kept him in power.. simple equation is it not..
So just who was attempting a coup here? Micheletti? Micheletti said from the start that he could not run as by him serving as interim President precluded himself from being on the ballot.. That is a fact.
The Military? The military has not made one move that could be construed as an attempt to seize power, they carried out their duties as called for in the Honduran constitution and as legally ordered by the supreme court/ congress of the country.
Anyone else? …. Then there is Zelaya. He attempted , with the help of Hugo Chavez to violate the constitution, to hold an illegal referendum, to allow himself to remain as president against Honduran law.
Zelaya is the one that has repeatedly attempted to circumvent Honduran law for his own agenda. What little unrest and violence there was has been shown to have been caused by his own leftist supporters looting and causing damage to private citizens property.
I would say that the Honduran Constitution has shown in this case that the drafters of the document knew EXACTLY what they might face down the road and interim president Micheletti and the Honduran people deserve a hero’s credit for standing up to international pressure to cave in to the leftist takeover.
Score this a win for the side of democracy and freedom, a big goose egg for the useful idiots of the left.
Congratulations to the great Honduran people.
And to the leftist… go suck an egg…
U.S. Ambassador to Honduras Hugo Llorens’ comments on the Sunday election (Google translation from Spanish here) were very positive. They show far better comprehension of reality than his earlier support for Zelaya.
“The impression we were all here at the Embassy is that yesterday (Sunday) was a great celebration of democracy. The Honduran people all over the country came out to vote and as always talk to the people had the right to elect their new leadership, its new president, Congress and mayors. He did well, in a totally peaceful spirit of celebration, families came.
“I had the opportunity to visit about ten voting centers, I focused on areas of working people in poorer areas and I saw a great enthusiasm of the people.
“I was impressed with the organization of the elections and I believe that the Supreme Electoral Tribunal deserves great credit for that, as an autonomous body and also to political parties and obviously congratulate Don Pepe Lobo on his victory.
* * *
Yesterday (Sunday) was a good day for Honduras and really, honestly, I congratulate them and I think more than anything that calling for democracy which demonstrated the Honduran people was really impressive, the people showed, and as I’ve said: politicians can talk and there are many statements but the last word belongs to the people, and that last word, the message, sent it in a very forceful.
“Pepe” Lobo is a great Honduran politician of great experience, a man who has that desire to seek reconciliation, a person open to different ideas, have a good technical team, he is a good manager, a strong executive who surrounds himself with very capable people. So I wish him luck gift “Pepe” Lobo and the U.S. will be there working with him for the sake of the relationship of our two countries.”
Llorens also noted that there is more to be done, including consideration by the National Congress of the reinstatement of Zelaya. Reading between the lines, he did not actually say what he hopes the result will be, but would like it if Zelaya were restored to office. That seems unlikely, and Zelaya has repeatedly said that if offered reinstatement he will not accept it.
I confess I know little of Honduras. From reports I’ve read the situation in question was very simple. The Honduran government acted out of respect for the rule of law. Zelaya and the U.S. government acted out of respect for the rule of Zelaya. What an outrage. The Obama foreign relations policy re Honduras sucks.
gbblues
You mentioned the “Jesus sales merchants”. Could you please identify them? Are you talking about me and other U.S.citizens who have left family, fortune, friends, and culture to move to Honduras in order to rescue abandoned children, care for orphans, minister to the sick, help feed the hungry with our own retirement, visit prisons, give hope, help children with club feet and cleft lips and palates, and share the love of Jesus Christ?
Or are you talking about the religious crooks who come here for the money, glory, and to make a name for themselves?
Please tell me, what are you doing to help the poor in Central America?
Considering the source, Inside Costa Rica, here is a reasonably balanced article providing an historical perspective on Zelaya.
Beloit:
I confess I know little of Honduras.
A rational person would have ended their statement there.
bobby
i speak of all of them. phony altruists, never move the needle. what do i do? i live. i hire people. i try to create wealth. i owe you no personal explanation. all you phony altruists are useless in my eyes. families can help themselves without you. got it. the restaurants in my barrio, mi vecinas, we look out for ourselves thank you. people come here to help as you suggest just wanna feel good about themselves. latinos are not babies. they do not need your superiority. they need solid valid data so they can believe or not believe in the politics around them. nicas, hondurans todo, are more than capable of helping themselves. take yer phony regalos and stick em. you help all people by being a better person yourself, not by phony religious self sacrifice. what a crock.
dan miller
please note my qualified use of inside costa rica. they are not accurate. i also sent roger a nica times article on contras, that is usually on the left, but i admit th.y have been harder and harder on daniel. i do not want to claim that either are reliable. but i note the 40000 number was also cite in diario and la prensa, with no sandinista estimate. if you are suggesting information is hard to believe here, note my first post. that is the point . we do not need help, money or opinions. to the quote the sci fis. we need hard data. very hard to come by, i in no way mean to say anything different
#33 anonymoses say: “A rational person would have ended their statement there.”
Unless one had done significant reading on the subject of Zelaya. I confess I don’t know about the graphite supply in Honduras. How about you anonymoses? Can you educate us or will you just honestly say as I did that you don’t know much about Honduras either and then shut up? Well hurry off now little starling to Wiki so you can plagiarize some little-known things about that small country and amaze us all with your deep knowledge of foreign lands.
According to this report, the gathering of “leaders from Latin America, Spain and Portugal” in Portugal resulted in the following edict:
“Honduras should return ousted President Manuel Zelaya to power, leaders from Latin America, Spain and Portugal said at a summit Tuesday.
“Calling the June coup that forced Zelaya out “unacceptable,” they said reinstating him was ‘a fundamental step’ the Central American country needed to take to return to constitutional normality.
“The statement, released at the end of a three-day Iberoamerican summit in Estoril, Portugal, also said leaders at the annual meeting had analyzed Honduras’ weekend election won by Porfirio Lobo, but they did not elaborate.
“The final statement on Honduras seemed to reflect a clear victory for regional heavyweights Argentina, Brazil and Venezuela, who had opposed any recognition of Sunday’s elections in Honduras.
“The leaders of Colombia, Peru and Costa Rica, however, had individually endorsed the election.”
The Honduran National Congress meets tomorrow, and it seems reasonable to hope that now that the United States and various other countries have recognized the legitimacy of the elections, it will tell the assembled folks in Portugal to (fill in the blanks).
la Prensa in Cuba has reported that the “resistance” movement in Honduras will ignore the Honduran Government which will take office on January 27 and
“will continue the resistance against the military coup until achieving a call for a national constituent assembly.
“The total failure of the electoral farce orchestrated by oligarchy on November 29 in dictatorship conditions, confirms our statement of declaring elections and results illegal and illegitimate, the Front stated.”
In other words, Zelaya and his friends will continue to press not only for the reinstatement of Zelaya (which he has already declined) but also for unconstitutional changes to the Honduran Constitution.
I confess I know little of Honduras.
These are your words Beloit. You should have been more specific if you meant that you didn’t know everything about Honduras. Its quite clear what you were stating, and its no surprise reading such an assertion on this site, followed by an opinion that any sane person would rightly think is therefore baseless.
Honduras did win a great victory over the forces of evil, and the Glory belongs to God. Many if not all those in leadership in this Constitutional Republic joined thousands of others in prayer for their nation. They give the credit to God who guided them,and gave them courage to stand for the truth against the world and the devil.
Glory to God in the Highest.
Viva Honduras!!!
#33 & # 39 Anonymous.
So do you have anything of substance to add or are you just content to take personal snipes that contribute nothing.
FB stated “From reports I’ve read the situation in question was very simple.”
I would say that he is correct in his statement.
It is not rocket science and I for one find it totally unacceptable that the Obama administration initially supported the position in direct conflict with the Honduran constitution and sided with the likes of Chavez and Castro and the rest of the little wannabe dictators of the world.
Unacceptable but not surprising considering Obama’s background and track record.
Texano
It is the colombians who urged President Uribe to seek a third term as a reward for his progress on making the country safer and winning the war on terror (FARC). Before the ratification of the 22nd Amendment Roosevelt ran for and was elected to third and forth terms. Two days after the inauguration of Obama Congressman Sandoval announced that he would propose a 23rd Amendment to overturn the 22nd to allow Barak Obama to serve a third and a forth term, if he so desires.
Beloit is right, Obama´s foreign policy sucks. While there were demonstrations and claims of fruad; people getting their heads bashed, Obama immediately recognized the election of Ahmadinejad. Obama still hasn´t picked up te phone to congradulate, Pepe Lobo on his clear and transparent victory.
The OAS, like the UN, has degenerated into a club of leftists. The removal of Zelaya was termed a ´coup´ by Chavez and his ALBA group who populate the OAS. Thanks to the media, the left gets to define the issues. The right in the world need to coalesce to have a strong voice to counter the half truhs, lies and distortions from the left. Adios
34. Tell that to the family whose child needs surgery, but the surgery costs what the family makes in a year. Then some anonymous donor steps in and underwrites the surgery so the kid can be healed.
FB stated “From reports I’ve read the situation in question was very simple.”
I would say that he is correct in his statement.
Yes, because you probably also know very little. Why don’t you start a new party called the Know-Nothings?
#44 Oh oh. Anonymoses is shouting in boldface and accusing others of being know-nothings. Atta way to convince others Anony. Shout into the sounds of silence while in high dudgeon. Its the librul way. LOL.
#44 anonymous.
Meanwhile you have contributed exactly ZERO to the conversation.
zero zip nada… thats your contribution.
Nothing. A big fat nothing…
Anonymoses is shouting in boldface and accusing others of being know-nothings.
Hilarious. Its you yourself who proudly proclaimed to know nothing, right before you stated your therefore unfounded opinion. Self-Pwnage thy name is Beloit.
yawn…. still nothing…